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December 29, 2025 36 mins

Dan and Monse discuss the 49ers' as they won in a shootout Sunday night and how they rate Brock Purdy at this point. Dan and Monse disagree on the Bills' decision to go for two points at the end of their game against the Eagles instead of try and kick a game-tying extra point. Dan and Monse think things don't add up in the latest report about DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
The forty nine ers have struck gold in more ways
than one. Monsie, Happy Monday.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
How are you Happy Monday?

Speaker 4 (00:14):
It's the weirdest Monday of the year, right like in
between Christmas and New Year's where like you have to
go back to normal, but just for a few days
because New Year's is just around the corner.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
A lot of people taking the vacation from last week
carrying it into this week with the new year. School
still out, kids are around, kids are everywhere. Isaac Glowing
cron is everywhere. Jason Stewart's here, Mark Ramsey is here.
He's gonna leave, He's gonna be done after fifteen minutes
to be like I'm out of here, that's right, sick
of this crap.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
But then he's gonna tune on on the drive home.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, of course, yeah, Chrisopher Federal takeover. But it is
a it is a funky Monday, for sure, the last
Monday of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
That's right, that's right. Somebody I saw on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
I think it was the NFL network that was like
the last Sunday of the NFL in twenty twenty five,
and people were like, what do you mean there's football
next Sunday And it was like, oh, because it's gonna
be twenty twenty six, Like I also missed that, that
one right over my head.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
What do we talk about there?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Ya? There are insiders who will love to They sit
by their phone, yes on July twenty fifth, because the
next Thursday is the Hall of Fame game, And then
they say, this is your last Thursday without football until
February of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Like that's that's what they's waiting for that.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
And then you're like, well, that's not necessarily true because
we don't have Thursday games during the playoffs. There's also
only three preseason games, so we kind of have a
week off. But if you want to count college, that's
that's with you, and however you want to deal with it.
But there are people. There's someone who was waiting to
send that Monday tweet say it was the first thing
they did. They didn't even check their notifications. They may

(01:56):
have done a search to see if anybody else tweeted it,
and then send it out themselves. If they would have
looked at their notifications, they probably would have said, man
Brock Perty's good will. Brock Party did it again. Rock
Party missed their five touchdowns himself. All of those things.
I guess we're appropriate considering last night's when against the
Chicago Bears, where Perty had two touchdown runs to go

(02:18):
along with this three touchdowns in the air. He had
five touchdowns on Monday a week ago against the Colts.
Those were all thrown. But the forty nine ers are
rolling and they're doing so behind their newly paid quarterback.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
He is it.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
He is there, dude, and I think you and I
sat here Dan the day he got extended, and there
were discussions about brock Party, whether how much he was
gonna get paid, whether he really was the guy, or
if the forty nine ers could find somebody better because
injury prone, can't he play, you know, in the weather,
because what he has small hands? All the things that

(02:52):
people wanted to like criticize brock Party about.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
You know, wait, does he have small.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Hen actually did think he has small hands. But then again, I,
you know.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Can we type that from a work computer? Are we safe?
Jason Stewart or I'm not sure if that is. I'm
not sure if that is appropriate or not, but I'll
tell you what you made an allegation. I know he's
not big in stature. I just didn't know Kenny Pickett.
We know his small hands, that's why you wore gloves
for a better grip on the football. But you think
that brock Party is small hand?

Speaker 4 (03:20):
I do, I do, But then again, you know I
also have Kawhi Leonard on my Clippers team, who has.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
The longest hands that I've ever seen. So maybe that's
what it is.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Isaac lohan Kron might actually have the information to whether
brock Party doesn't hit factap small hands, or if I've
just made that up.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Fox Sports Radio hand insider Isaac lohen Krann here uh,
brock Party's hand size is nine and a quarter inches, which,
according to his draft report, is considered quote average or
slightly below average from a foreign NFL quarterback back.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
To you, Thank you, Isaac Loehenkron. So I'm not so crazy,
maybe just a little.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I searched brock Perty's hands and saw the AI recap
that Isaac long Kron did verbatim like, so yes, so
we're all similar to Patrick Mahomes, right, that's what the
that's what AI is telling us with Brock Parties. Yes,
he's giving us the nod.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
He's saying yes, okay, Well, all the things that were
surrounding whether brock Party was the guy, I feel like
he is the guy. And then some yesterday watching him
against a team like the Chicago Bears that lead the
league into takeaways and have been on a hot streak,
watching him adjust, whether it was that he had to

(04:38):
take off, whether he had to scramble, whether he had
a throw. He looked so good out there and knowing
and give it credit to Kyle Shanahan because knowing the
pieces that they have lost throughout the season, No George
Kittle yesterday, the plugging in and out of players that
they've had to do.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
And it wasn't like the San Francisco's defense.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Like I feel like we could be talking about Caleb
Williams two and his performance, but at the same time,
San Francisco's defense is not great.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
They're last in sacks.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
So was he really out there scrambling for his life
in a way that maybe.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Brock Purty was. I just was like, brock Purty is
the deal?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
And then I I was like, is it crazy to
say it's the best NFL pick of all time.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Tom Brady would argue, and that's.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Why I that's why I didn't.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
You know, Yeah, I think the stature of mister Irrelevant
and for what he has turned into, would would make
an argument at least for a second place. Finished.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Absolutely, and then it looks like I San Francisco could
win this.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I don't think I would have thought that five weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I don't think so either. And I don't think that
especially considering the issues that they have on defense. And
I know you gave the report yesterday here on Fox
Sports Radio of there's a possibility maybe he could be
back for the NFC Championship game. Who knows, who knows
if that's going to be the case. But they need
to be an offensive football team.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
If they're going to win, correct, correct, because.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
The defense, for the pieces that they're missing, that is
where they're going to get it done, and that is
how they've gotten it done so far this season. Let's
hear from Kyle Shanahan, who talked about his quarterbacks performance
last night against the Bears.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
I thought brock out a hell of a game. Again,
I'm Brockton playing his ass Off, made some huge plays
in this game, kept some drives alive with his legs,
made some off scheduled plays, and was an assassin out
there throughout the whole day.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Now, if you look at Mac Jones's numbers, because that's
the that's when you're looking to compare players. Were Rock
Purty's numbers or Mac Jones's numbers comparable to what Rock
Purty has done this season? And when you would look
at the numbers, yes, but when you watch what happens
right like, that's what you're talking about. Honestly, when you
watch Caleb Williams, who is mobile fleet a foot fast

(06:49):
for an NFL quarterback, can move, can get that first down,
but when he's like hi knee out of tackles, it
doesn't look as graceful where almost looks like he's on
figure sk a figure skater. He's on skates. He's just
he's gliding. He's moving here. Joe Montana's nickname was Joe Cool.
There's a lot of that to Brock Party. So when

(07:12):
you watch him, not only are the numbers pleasing, it's
actually esthetically pleasing to your eyes because it's not choppy,
it's not funky all of it is smooth and he
does have the Listen, the first pass of the game
ends up being tipped and run back for a touchdown.
So the Bears were opportunistic in that point, but didn't
let it bother him on his way to having a

(07:32):
five touchdown.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I like how you said that it does.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
He makes it look easy, and at the same time,
it's like he doesn't look the way like Caleb Williams has.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Some scrambles where you're like, how did you do that?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
There's no question about it, right, But the athleticism for
Caleb Williams maybe because we've seen it in college, and
with Brock Purty it's like who was Brock party? Uh?
So with Caleb Williams, like, yeah, we see that you're
the number one over all pick for a reason. With
Rock Perty, you're like, how did you It didn't even
look like you tried, Almost like a like a not
in the same attitude. Because I jokingly always say that

(08:03):
Nicola Jokic is mad that he has to play basketball.
He's out there all annoyed and like but playing, you know,
kicking ass.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I feel like Brock Pertty.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Like it looks so like he's not even trying but
he reads everything that's in front of him, he sees
the field.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
And that's like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
I was so impressed with him honestly yesterday and I
just was like, I think San Francisco actually could win this.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
And I would not have said that five weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
And by this you're talking about winning it all.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yes, And I would not have said that again five
six weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Brock Party has made you believe that he is the
one that can end this thirty year drought.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yes for San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I think he plays in a way that they're this
is the end of this run. But he plays in
a way that makes you believe if you can figure
out phase two of this forty nine ers And I'm
not saying that phase one is over with, but Phase
one doesn't have a lot left. And I'm surprised that
it has this year left. To be honest with you,

(08:56):
that I thought that this year this team was going
to be mediocre. Even entering the year, they had the
easiest schedule in the NFL. When I checked a week ago,
it was twenty third in the National Football League. I'm
not sure what the up to date strength of schedule is,
but still bottom third, but they did play against a
division of the AFC South that is a lot better
than we thought this year. But I didn't think it

(09:18):
was going to be this year for San Francisco because
of age, because of their players, and you know, Trent
Williams got hurt last night. They're all getting older. So
at some point there's going to be a point where
there is no Christian McCaffrey, there is no Trent Williams,
there is no Nick Bosa, but there is Brock Purdy,
right and so the play of how he's played the
last two games makes me think that you may not

(09:40):
be wrong in what you're saying, because in whatever Phase
two is, Brock Purdy is going to be there. And
there were points played against Carolina this year, was picked
off three times, looked frustrated. But what you want from
your quarterback is for him to be playing his best
football when it is most needed, and that is what
this time is. Right now is then now get to

(10:00):
host a game on Saturday night against the Seahawks. That
is for the division title, it's for the number one
overall seed. In home field advantages you alluded to have
threw out all the way to the Super Bowl because
they're hosting the Super Bowl in Santa Clara.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
It's just at the start of the season.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I did think they were going to have an easier
time because of their schedule. But I feel like people
dismiss them, and so my question.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I completely did by the way, I completely dismissed them.
I did not believe in them as a legitimate threat
in the NFC.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
And do you think there are teams still dismissing them
because of all of the pieces that they have lost
along the way that there's like the Rams are still around,
the Seahawks are still around. There's no way the forty
nine ers get out of this division like the way
they possibly can.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think they are being dismissed if you look at
what they gave up to the Bears that we are
at Kayla Williams looking towards DJ Moore at the other
end of the end zone, away from the Bears maybe
winning that game. When you give up the amount of
points that the forty nine Ers gave up to the
Bears last night, you kind of say, all right, what

(11:03):
is going on with this defense? What are the issues?
But I think more and more people are coming around
the game against the Rams that they lost at home.
What Mac Jones was the quarterback where they lost forty
two to twenty was kind of a bit of a
changing of the guard where I thought like, Okay, the
Rams are the best team in the NFL, maybe at
that point, but definitely in the NFC. We saw the

(11:25):
Rams lost to Seattle in the heartbreaker. Last week, Rams
played a night against the Falcons. My point is this
is I put the forty nine ers away after they
lost to the Rams. Yeah, and now seeing how things
have fallen into place, I've got to bring them back
into the picture. Rock Yeah, Rock Party talked about that

(11:45):
picture in the NFC West after the win last night.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
Obviously, we're thankful to be in this position, but I've
said this before, it's just been one of those kind
of years where it's like you have to focus on
just the next day, the next man up, finding a
way to win each Sunday, and then at the end
you can look up and see where you're at. And
so for us to be in this position is really cool.
We're all grateful for it, but at the same time,
we have to go do something about it and gott

(12:10):
watch the film get better and go execute and win.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
A lot of coach speak, yeah, but smooth again and
trying to make it sound like he is saying something
he has been. I mean, it's been quite a week,
like right, it's been of the last seven days, the
previous seven days that he's had, he's had a total
of ten touchdowns in those contests.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
And you know, adding to the conversation, you're of the
forty nine ers that, like Christian McCaffrey, is also having
a killer season, but he's going under the radar.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I think that he should be in the MVP discussion.
I don't think that he would be winning.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
No, But I don't even know if he is in
the discussion.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
No, I don't think he is. Yeah, I think that
the discussion is a three person conversation that likely moved
to two after yesterday. So it's either gonna be Matthew
Stafford or Drake May.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
It should be probably Matthew Stouffe.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think it. Ultimately, I think viewer,
I think voters will see through what Drake May did
yesterday against the bad Jets.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Team and also great great for you. You know, Drake
made great job because you're having a great season. So
not to take away from that, but yes, Matthew Stafford
is having the MVP season.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I do have to just point this out because I
think it's important. I think the Bears win last night
was a really good win because of how good the
Bears have been. But winning forty two to thirty eight
again answers lose some questions about the defense.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
The wins that they've had recently were against the Giants,
the Cardinals, the Panthers, Browns, Titans, Colts, and then now
the Bears. Does that change anything for you?

Speaker 4 (13:47):
No, it really doesn't, because I feel like you have
to get hot at the right time, and you're getting
hot right now. We could go back and look at
the Rams they lost to the Panthers, you know, like
there's weird losses for everybody.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
And if you're getting in a groove now and.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
You your offense is clicking like this, you're gonna I know,
we just saw the Bengals not win a lot of games,
but I was scoring a lot of points.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
We saw them do that last year.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
But it seems like if your offense is clicking like this,
the offense on the other side.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Has to keep up with you. And that's still hard
for a lot of teams. There's a lot of great
offensive teams out there.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I'm with you. You play who's on your schedules. Not
everybody beats everybody, and so they've been beating most everybody
that they faced as.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
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Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's the Love Hour here on Fox Sports Radio. Someone
goes out to brock Perty's hands. That's right, she's Monty Blaos.
I'm Dan Bayer.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I was gonna say something that I don't think was right.
I'm glad I stopped myself.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, good job, don't worry. Jason has a hands update.
Isaac long Crown has an update as well. Before we
get to them, have you heard about trainer games?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
No, and tell me about it.

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to miss. Jason, you have an update on at least
the comparison from brock Perty's hands to Patrick Mahomes, as
Moncey categorized Brock Purty as a small handed quarterback.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
Yes, so you confirm that party is like average to
below average. And then I thought you had said, are
you guys also seeing Patrick Mahomes in your AI search? Yes,
so I followed up on that Patrick Mahomes is well
within the range of hand size, So he's he's not
every not small.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Nope, not so. And I think we probably needed that
so we wouldn't hear from Patrick Mahomes' lawyers in putting
him in the same category. Right, there will be zero
hand measurements of mind going on here at Fox Sports Radio,
none whatsoever. You can find me on Exit Dan Byer
on Fox, find Monzi at Monty Bilanos. If you check

(16:07):
out at Ryan's voice, Ryan sweets in, thanks for being on, guys,
give gives me some escape. He's in the up Monzy.
Look at the snowbank that Ryan's dugout just listening to us.
In the first Uh oh my goodness, yes, first segment.
He's got half of his sidewalk done and there's a
mountain of five feet of snow all the way around him.

(16:30):
So be like Ryan, turn it on and enjoy your
holiday break off with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
You know who's not enjoying it today. The Buffalo Bills,
after rallying from a thirteen to nothing deficit so pull
within one of the Philadelphia Eagles, the Bills decided to

(16:51):
go for two in a thirteen to twelve ball game,
only to see Josh Allen's pass to Khalil Shakir fall
well shortened to the end zone and fill Ladelphia survived
a victory, survived, Buffalo survived, the weather survived all of
it with a thirteen to twelve win. This was Sean
McDermott explaining why he went for two in that situation

(17:14):
late in the game yesterday in Buffaloe one ended the decision, Sean,
that goes to it the end.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
I want to be aggressive going for the win. Oh
we can feel like, you know, only a certain amount
of time left at that point, and so like we
had a great, great call, great opportunity to go win it,
and I'm going to be aggressive. So I'm not gonna
sit back.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Did have a kick blocked earlier impact your.

Speaker 9 (17:38):
Decision of making Potentially it wasn't everything, but I trust
Josh Allen with the ball in his hands and I
do it over again.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Those are such cop out answers. Yes, trying to be aggressive.
Why were you going one and twenty on the freeways?
Trying to be aggressive? Officer, just trying to be an
aggressive driver, Like, no, you didn't need to go one
hundred and twenty, just like you didn't need to go
for two. You were doing just fine as you were.

(18:08):
And in fact, the team that was actually on the edge,
we're the Philadelphia Eagles. You think the Eagles wanted to
play anymore? You know how many passes they completed in
the second half is zero, zero zero. They didn't complete
a pass in the second half. So you kick the
extra point. We're gonna go piece by piece. I'm sorry

(18:30):
because there's everything that Sean McDermott said, there is blowney,
let's start it again.

Speaker 9 (18:39):
The decision. Sean goes to it. Yet wanted to be
aggressive going for the win?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Pause? Yeah, sorry, different type of pause, but you know
what I mean, going for the win.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
That's what they were doing.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, you were at home, you had all the momentum.
You as the Buffalo Bills, had no trouble moving the football.
You Buffalo Bills were able to complete pass.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
We're able to do, so why not in the game.
Momentum is on their side, so just stop it. All right, great,
let's let's show the.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Momentum is on your side as a whole, not in
one play. Not in one play. You don't do that
on a two point conversion. The old adage, because this
is what Sean McDermott is hiding behind. The old adage
is play for the tie at home, go for the
win on the road. But guess what when you say
you're being aggressive Manzi, when you're trying to get that win,

(19:30):
that that's gonna satisfy everyone. No, you are the one
to tell your kids to stop eating cheetos at nine
forty five at night. That like you have the authority.
You have the authority to tell your team we're gonna
play it safe here. I am the adults in charge.
We are going to kick the extra point. And by

(19:51):
saying that we're being aggressive, yeah, it sounds great on
the surface, but it is not what that situation required.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, yeah, hindsight is twenty twenty because what if he
would have caught that, what will be sitting here saying what?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, yeah, Bills, he was open, he.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Was open, Josh Allen did not make the throw.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
And if I that game was a bad game on
both for both teams. The weather was awful, So I
don't want to go to overtime against a defending National
super Bowl champion.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
May end up tying. Yeah, because as opposed to losing
on a play, because.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
We also know the Bills defense isn't all that there,
so it's like one very offer and that's it.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
They didn't completely pass in the second half.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
And then in the first half the Bills got shut out.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
I feel like a break in resetting everything into overtime
was not necessarily the slam dunk that maybe you thought
in the moment. And I said, yesterday you were on
with Kerry Rhodes for end Zone Radio, and quickly at
the news desk you asked me, would you have gone
for two? And I said yes, in that moment, I
thought I would have gone for two. So I felt
like that yesterday.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, And I thought you would sleep on it and
realize you were wrong and then come back today and
be like, you know what, Dan, you were right. No,
let's listen to some more Sean A Sean, Let's let's
hear this one.

Speaker 9 (21:05):
You know you can feel like you know, only a
certain amount of time left at that point.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
And yeah, there were five seconds. That has nothing to
do with anything, That has nothing to do with anything.
In fact, they had a play that was uh that
ended up at least I thought was that where they
had the review and they had to take some time off. Anyway,
the point bab the run off ye uh huh, yeah,
so there was there was the review on the big

(21:30):
playdown field.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah, Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Going into the end zone and then he did it?

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Is that the one right before, right right that he
got stopped right before?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yes, so let's let's let's hear from more.

Speaker 9 (21:41):
So, like we had a great, great call, great opportunity
to go win it, and I'm gonna be aggressive, so
I'm not gonna sit back.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Did get blocked earlier impact to your decision of making potentially.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Okay stop there in the moment, I thought that that
was maybe in his head, and then I thought about
it more last night. How do NFL teams analyze when
they go for two? They do it as a whole, right,
because it's about a fifty fifty chance of converting a
two point conversion. So a lot of the conversation that

(22:14):
you hear now is saying, like, why did they go
for two there? Well, because if they don't get it there,
the numbers say go for you'll get it the next
time because it's a fifty to fifty proposition. That's why
they did it. Then you say, that makes sense, that's
the numbers, that's the odds. Wouldn't the odds tell you
that Michael Badgeley is probably not going to miss a

(22:35):
second extra point When you go through all of the
numbers of kicking extra points, we've seen misses. We saw
it this past weekend. Cameron Dicker missed an extra point.
It happens. But you know what, Cameron Dicker also made
an extra point. So the point of him saying, guess what,
we're gonna go for two, because that may have played
a role in thinking, then put it all on Michael Badgley.

(22:56):
It was your decision to go for two because you
wanted to be aggressive and put the ball in Josh
Allen's hands, Which how could we all argue with, right, Yes,
but you kick the extra point and then you put
the ball in Josh Allen's hands to go down and
score some more points. Because the Eagles again did not
complete a pass in the second half.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
They did not complete a pass in the second half.
But it wasn't a pretty game on either side. Cameron
Dicker for the Chargers missed a field goal, then missed
an extra point. Maybe it was in the other way around,
but they were back to back misses on somebody who's
statistically so great. I understand the feeling of not wanting
to put it on the kicker when my quarterback is
Josh Allen, and if I'm on the side and Josh
Allen's like, I got this, and again the play would

(23:35):
have worked. Josh Allen just missed the throw. We wouldn't
be saying this. And the weather, the weather was not ideal.
The weather was not ideal. I agree with Sean mcdrrett
not is he giving me a company answer. Maybe, But
I agree that he was trying to be aggressive, and
I agree that he had a conversation with Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Josh's like, give me the ball. I want to end
it right now.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Of course he did. They should have just ran a
quarterback boot and had him run it in probably that
maybe it would have a better play call than the
one that he did. That brought a lot of different
variables in including throwing a wet football that he won
hopped a Khalil Shakir. Jason Stewart's our executive producer.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
I'd love to know what Mike Rabel would say if
you said, what do you think or what did you
think when you saw that the Bills were going for two?
I think Mike Mike Rabel would be like, oh good, Like.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
The Nick Siriani from yesterday, I'm just.

Speaker 8 (24:24):
Saying no, no, Mike Rabel. The Patriots who had a
lot to win or lose given the result of this game, Okay,
Mike Rabel would have said, I'm glad they went for
two because the better team goes for one, the better
team at home goes for one. There, That's that's what
football has always told us. So I think McDermott was

(24:44):
also telling us he didn't have faith in his team
for the next uh for for overtime, So I do
agree with you on this. I think if again, the
Patriots head coach, who had a chance to win or
lose this division given the results of that game, right,
if he was asked today, what did you think of
that decision for mcdermant to go for two? He would

(25:04):
have been like, oh good, because that gave him a
chance to lose.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
And what do you think Nick Sirianni thought when he
saw them go back out there, Oh good, yeah, awesome, sweet,
we can get a stop here and actually end.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
This game, right, because he would he would think there's
another opportunity for him if there was a kick, because
they would go to overtime. I hear what you guys
are saying, but in reality, it's like, if it all
worked out, we wouldn't be having this conversation. And at
the same time, if he kicks and they go to overtime,
it's not guarantee Buffalo wins anyway.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Like to go and feel.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Like you you you're gonna get it in overtime where
everything is wet and slippery, Like, how do you not
know that Seguon Barkley isn't gonna break off for a
touchdown against a Bill's run defense that has not been great.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I would I would lean on the eighteen yards rushing
they had in the second half in that moment, like
that's that's the number. The Eagles didn't do a thing.
They didn't they they they were they didn't do anything
the second.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
So right, so like, right there, they haven't done anything.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Let's just crush them and end this like they're they're
dead and water right here, like, let's just end this.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
And it was the right, It was a right. He
was open, he just didn't hit him.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, he was he was open ish, But Josh Allen
was back pedaling. Yeah. I don't think it was a
confident play where you're just sitting back and tossing it
and this is your best two point conversion play. I
think that the I just hear the message of Sean McDermott,
and it's it the like, how can you argue we

(26:38):
wanted to put the ball in Josh Allen's hands. Well, yeah,
i'd hope. So I hope you didn't hand it off
to Ty Johnson in that situation, you want it in
Josh Allen's hands. That's tough to criticize. It's tough to criticize.
He's not going to be like we thought about being
very passive there. We decided to kick the extra point.
But when you say aggressive, like, kay, all right, our

(26:59):
coach is our coach wants this, we want this. But
I think people in Buffalo see because he's already on
a hot seat that Sean McDermott actually had the ability
as a head coach at that point to do something
that many people didn't think that he'd be able to do,
and that's actually sit there and say, I think it's
best for this football team to try to kick the

(27:20):
extra point, and if he misses the extra point. Mantzi,
you're right, of hindsight is twenty twenty. But I think
Michael Badgley is getting more of the blame today because
then in the postgame press conference, instead of saying we
were trying to be aggressive, we want to put the
ball in Josh Allen's hands, what you would say is
they scored zero points in the second half, they had

(27:41):
eighteen yards rushing in the second half, they didn't complete
a pass in the second half. We trusted the way
our defense was playing at that time. That's why we
were going to play for overtime. We thought we had
a chance to win it there and we wanted to
take losing out of the equation. We missed the kick,
that happens, so be it. That would have been the
press conference if Michael Badgley misses the extra point, and

(28:01):
that would have been much more tangible and reasonable than
saying we wanted the ball in Josh Allen's hands. We
wanted to be aggressive. That's something that I would say.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Michael Badeley misses the kick after that game, you don't
think the first question being asked is, hey, Sean, why
didn't you just give the ball to Josh Allen and
go for two and your kicker just missed it?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
The weather is bad.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Say exactly what I said is.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
We were trying to be safe.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
We wanted to take losing out of the equation like that.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
He just missed a kick, So that's that's He just
missed a kick.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Extra point, He had one blocked and he was asked
about it. My whole point is, is he really going
to miss two then they don't even have a kicker.
Then don't even have it.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Cary, We've seen kickers this year missed back to back
kicks that we deemed easy for kicks, for kickers that
are at the top of their game.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Jason Mancy is right, Dan, it was the right call.
Win or end the risk of injury. With the playoffs
in two weeks. I don't even think the division because
New England was probably going to win the division if
Sean McDermott said, I don't care if we won the game.
We probably weren't gonna win the division, and I want

(29:12):
to make sure my guys get rest in week eighteen.
That's more real than that cover up of an answer.
Hinzet is twenty twenty. You're one hundred percent correct, But
I would have kicked the extra point in that part.
And his is reasoning for why they do it. And
I remember a tweet somebody the picture of like Sean McDermott,

(29:32):
like the Stills shot after the pick. Why do we
always see this? Like why is this a traditional shot?
And it was, But I just in that moment, you
had all of the momentum, and you were playing better
than the Eagles were, You were at home, you had
the home field advantage, the crowd was going crazy, and
you pulled the rug out from under him by just

(29:53):
ending it in it in.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
It's funny because like, I hear what you're saying, but
I just think it's the other way. The momentum was on.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Your side, you could I would have ended it right there.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
And Jason maybe not I mean Jason who tweeted at
us thank you, but our producer, Jason, you may be
right that. Sean McDermott was like, I don't know if
my team can go to overtime and handle this and
play a whole nother who knows how long, Like that's
probably part of it as well. But I'm using the
momentum for going for two, not using it against them.

Speaker 8 (30:20):
I get that, and I think that what Dan has
been saying too. I think you converse. You can conversely
use the same answer for why did you kick the
extra point to go overtime? Because I have Josh Allen
and I wanted to be a I have Josh Allen
in overtime. Of course I'm going overtime. I could He
could have easily just constructed that answer the same way
if the game had played out differently. I just think

(30:42):
the message he sent to his team and going for
two this is like the act of desperate teams that
are worse than the other team on the field, and
I don't have faith in you for overtime. That's what
I took.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
But what if, like there is no what winning that game?

Speaker 4 (30:56):
They had already they already knew they couldn't win the
division right at that point, like it was already or not?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, No, they there was a way that they could win,
but New England would have to lose to the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Gotcha? Okay, Okay, So it wasn't even okay, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Gotcha?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I thought they knew.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Because the Patriots got to celebrate when they were on
the bus coming back from their win against the Jets
and then they got T shirts and hats and the
whole deal. Listen, it was going to be a long shot, Like,
I don't think the Patriots are going to lose. We're
going to lose to the Dolphins. Maybe could have happened,
but I just think it really even with all of
that being said, and maybe Jason on X is correct

(31:34):
and saying the Buffalo doesn't matter if they're a four
or five or a five, six or seven seed, and
to get it over with, Alan did take a fall.
But in that case, if you want to win the
football game, that's what I'm doing.

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and Cron Jason Stewart Chris Purfett here as well. There
was no dk Metcalf on the field yesterday for the
Steelers against the Browns, including when Aaron Rodgers had a

(32:47):
fourth and goal from the brown seven yard line trying
to get into the end zone down thirteen to six,
The ball to Marquezvalde scantling fell and complete in. The Steelers,
who could have wrapped up the division with a winning
Cleveland now have to play for their postseason lives coming
up on Sunday night. But there's more to the story
because Aaron Rodgers wasn't able to throw the DK Metcalf

(33:08):
because dk Metcalf was serving game one of his two
game suspension for throwing a punch short slap at a
fan against the Lions in Week sixteen. This is what
Fox NFL incier Jay Glazier reported on considering metcalf situation
on Fox NFL Sunday prior to the games in Week seventeen.

Speaker 10 (33:28):
But I actually have the security communication between the Detroit
Lions and Seattle Seahawks security from a game last year
when DK Metcalf when he was with the Seahawks complained
about that exact same fan to security at the time.
There he's asked that that fan be removed over very
derogatory comments. I'm not going to repeat what the comments
are that are on here. And obviously, guys, we don't

(33:50):
condone ever hitting a fan or anybody else, but in
this it says when we investigated during the game, the
individuals around him states and corroborated that the fan was
being out a line and had indeed said these derogatory statements.
They even asked us to remove the guy. The odd
part of this also is that the Pittsburgh steel has
had no knowledge of this.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
So the Steelers fans didn't know the side of the
NFL and the Lions communication is that this fan said
the terms that may have been said this time around,
at least that's what DK Metcalf's people are accusing. But
yet this fan was allowed to sit in the same seat. Yeah,
after a full review of the situation, something doesn't smell right.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Right, somebody either dropped the ball. Lots of balls were dropped.
I don't know. It seems like he was a repeat offender.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
And I feel like after watching that press conference, I
was like, you know, this guy's an idiot.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I feel he's an idiot. He's an idiot or it's
the DK metcalf pr machine going into overtrive to try
to prove his version of the story to be what
it is.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
If that guy did not have a backwards cap on
having a press conference, I would side with you. But
after that press conference, I cannot, I can't repeat it
called the.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
DK de kalin, which seems that he was sticking to the.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Bed correct good that and then at the end of
go lines.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Jason Stewart, we were all over this topic last week.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
Yeah, the guy's an absolute jerk. I don't I don't
want to hang out with them. I don't want to
be his friend. But to me, this entire story comes
down to one word. There's one word that kind of
exonerates Metcalf's behavior. There's one word that would have mitigated
the NFL punishment, and it did not. The one word
was not used, And as far as I'm concerned, that's
all that matters on this, this entire thing. So, Jake

(35:42):
Glezer is trying to do Metcalf's bidding here. I don't
know if it's working. I just don't.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I thought it was interesting that the point was made
that there were people who saw this incident last year,
heard this incident, and asked for the fan to be removed.
Yet he still has his tickets at the fifty yard line, right.
I don't know how that happens. I have no idea
how that doesn't. Right.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
So, but someone dropped the ball, if that's true, like
many people drop the ball?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, I don't, but I don't think that. How does that?
You don't you want your fans to be known as
people who yell, you know, derogatory terms or racial slurs
at players.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Wait, I think right, No, no, yeah, I just honestly
like this guy.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
DK metcalf is an idiot for engaging.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
If you did have any prior experience with this guy,
why did you even walk up to him? Why would
you put yourself in that situation. DK Metcalff takes majority
of the blame here one percent. But that guy, that guy.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Seems like a jerk.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
That is a repeat offender, not just on the field,
but I say in life.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
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