April 12, 2024 • 42 mins
Doug and Dan weigh in on Kentucky's new hire at head coach as they are closing in on Mark Pope to take the reigns. Doug and Dan welcome Sirius/XM Masters host/analyst Jason Sobel onto the show to talk about Tiger, Phil and all of the major headlines from The Masters. Doug and Dan preview the western conference playoffs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning to you, Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. Welcome in Hope. You're doing great. Dan Buyer's
alongside my man Jason Stewart. And uh, it is a Friday,
a golf Friday, where we're well, you know, watching the
(00:25):
second round of the Masters, reacting the first round the Masters.
We still have some uh some o J Simpson, I
guess to discuss whether or not he's worthy of the
discussion or not. And then we have a coaching hiring
of PayPal levels?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Is that my PayPal levels? Is that what I gotta
say there?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I'm trying.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I'm good with that. Okay, Hey doing Dan, I'm great, Doug,
I'm great. Masters first round wrapping up. Second round has
already begune. So you've got this converging of rounds at Augusta.
So yeah, it's a great day. It is a good day.
It is a good day.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
White smoking Lexington.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
White smoking Lexington. So Mark Pope is going to be
the new head coach of Big Blue Nation. And if
you're sitting there going like, who in the hell is
Mark prope Kentucky? People actually know who Mark Pope is
because he played at Kentucky, started his current at University Washington,
transferred in and played for Rick Patino at Kentucky, part
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of one of their national championship teams under Patino. And
he's been the head coach at Utah Valley State and
BYU and just this year he took BYU to the
NCAA tournament. And yeah, it's so there's a there's a
lot to unpack there, right, because you sit there going like,
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wait a second. First they were talking about Dan Hurley,
who just won back to back national titles. Then they
were talking about Billy Donovan who won back to back
national titles, was the last guy to do it before
Dan Hurley. They're talking about Scott Drew who won a
national title and as is a top twenty program year
in year out of Bailey. And now you talk about
Mark Pope, I've never heard of before. Again, I when
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I say I've never I'm taking the average college fan
of some level. But I gotta say I don't hate it.
I mean, I'm just are we really going to do
the whole circus where you have to have been uh,
you have to have been in the SEC just like
let's just do the SEC musical chairs. Bruce Pearl would
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would work. But also Bruce Pearl's probably like, I don't know,
five years from not coaching anymore and he already is
in the SEC, and you bring a guy home and
I love the I love the people, Like look at
the recruiting classes he's had, he's at BYU, and people
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know I'm big in the Mormon community. I am. I
when I was in Connecticut, I literally had Mormons on
each side of my house and incredible neighbors and people,
so much so that I am Brother Doug to many people.
I'm being only half facetious because I really do have
a lot of Mormon friends. But like, look, we all
kind of know the deal. You have to sign an
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honor code, and they actually live up to that honor
code in terms of no sex, no drugs, no rock
and roll if you in college. And he's done some
unique things at BYU, and this year they shot more
threes th and two's. He's played in the NBA. I
don't know, like we make it out like you have
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to have you have to have been some Carnival Barker
in the past to coach at Kentucky and maybe you
could just coach because you've played there and you know
how to coach basketball. And we'll see if people even alone.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
How much is it?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Because I think that there are a lot of schools
that feel I think there are a lot of schools
at a certain level that have a let's bring them
home guy, right, Like, it's not every school, but you
have that guy. Honestly, you may be it for Oklahoma State,
but that's a completely different story. The point is is
Kentucky seems to be this different animal where bringing a
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guy home is not good enough. And I don't know
if it's a you know, third choice, fourth choice, that
sort of syndrome, but it sure doesn't equate to any
other basketball program in college basketball because Kentucky really isn't
like any other program in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, No, doesn't mean it's not a precursor for success,
you know. I mean Billy Gillespie when he went there,
I mean everyone myself included would have said, man, that
that'll work. Right. But I also think that part of
it is the timing of how things went down, mean
that many of these coaches had already turned down like
a different job, whether it's Arkanshaw job, or any of
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these other jobs the Louisville j up. And so they
had already gone back to their athletic directors who had,
you know, promised them more money and promised them more
nil and or or some of them just have these
ridiculous buyouts. And maybe he just sat there and go like, okay,
like Mick Cronin would be great, but I got to
pay a sixteen million dollar buyout, and why would I
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can bring a Kentucky guy home? Obviously, I mean I
believe that every school is different, but for my school,
I thought bringing somebody home is is important because the
basketball coach, the football I mean the football coach, the
baseball coach, the now retiring wrestling coach, down Smith, all
the lums. And I do think that in recruiting, your
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recruiting is telling a story, right of what your four
years or you know, one, two, three years will look like.
And when you're recruiting to your school, you're telling your story.
There is some definite risk because if it doesn't work
now all of a sudden, do you cut that part
of your history or of the school's history off if
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you lose, right, But there's also there's also a ton
to be gained for when it's your guy, there's a lot,
maybe more loyalty, there's an ability to translate what it's
like to be a part of Kentucky's big Blue Nation.
And by the way, as much as we can sit
here and go, hey, he's not as accompassed as X,
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Y and Z. If we're looking at the five biggest jobs,
right the two others on the Eastern seaboard, right North
Carolina and Duke. They're both coached by alums. Both of
them were never head coaches before they got that job.
So like you can be critical of Mark Pope's hiring
in comparison to if you are going to hire Dan Hurley.
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But whatever you think of what they're doing at North Carolina,
haven't gone to a Final four two years ago, three
years or three seasons ago, whatever. This year, they were
a one seed last year, obviously disappointed to make the tournament.
And that Duke john Shire is a lump. And they
had never coached before at all as head coach. They've
been assistant coaches, but it never been head coached at all.
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And then of course the UCLA bit Crooran, who is
who you know, was a well decorated head coach before
he got that job. And then Kansas is Bill self,
and of course he was a well decorated head coach.
So there's no one perfect way to to thread this thing.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I do think Duke and North Carolina are a bit
unique into because of who their predecessors were. Sure succession plan, yes,
absolutely sure, and that makes it makes it tricky. Kentucky
is also sitting there saying and timing of it is
in a fact there because it's Kentucky, not that the
timing is even off. It's different if a coach would
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leave during the summer, but we're right out of the
gates of the final four. I just I think it's
the fact of they also couldn't get what they wanted.
They were turned down, or the fan base feels that
they were turned down by those other options.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's funny because it's like the fan base turning on
one of their own. And Mark Pope is the exact
reason that a lot of these coaches are like whoa sure,
It's like, uh what what is it?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh? Man? Is it Kingpin? Things?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Kingpin?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Where He's just.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Who are you calling? Psycho?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, It's like, man, your fans are crazy That's
why coaches like, what do you mean Our fans aren't crazy,
We just do want to hire some guy that we
don't like. He's like, but he's one of your own.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And he's one of your own.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Who are you calling psycho from one of your from
one of your best teams that you've ever had as
a school.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know that, I know Market, I know how I
know Market's actually the funny. This is actually one of
my funnier stories. So when I was working at CBS,
there was a year where I did thirteen UNLV games,
you know, be home games thirteen. I was living in
southern California, like am now, and I was doing all
those Mountain West games and they were really good. Dave
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Rice was the head coach. By the way, Dave just
got a junior college head coaching job after I think
it's Snow at what's.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Called Snow Snow.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Junior College, I think, which is in Salt Lake City.
I believe that's the one he just got. He got
to you, Dave, and he was at cal Baptist. So
I would take off and it got to the point
where I was like, hey, do you guys mind if
I just like fly in day of the game, like
you no problem. You know, from where I lived is
like ten minutes to Orange County Airport, and Orange County
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Airport is a forty five minute flight. And the games
were at eight, and I would get done at three,
and i'd get in a flight at like four, land
at five, and just go directly to Thomas Mack, which
is right off the runway that's where you And so
without fail, I would land and I would text Dave Rice, hey, man,
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do you mind if I come up to the office,
And usually I would go right up. Well, my one
of my numbers for Dave Rice. I kept it was
Mark Pope's number because Dave had been at BYU as
an assistant coach and he gave Mark his number for
his school cell phone. So it's one of those where
I would just with that well out looking. I had
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multiple Dave Rice numbers and type dating Dave Rice, and
all of a sudden, Mark Pope would start this conversation
with me as if he was Dave Rice, but he
was really Mark Pope. He's like, hey, Doug, it's actually
Mark Pope. Wrong number. So I had it like a
probably three month long text exchange going on with Pope.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Were you cat fish by Mark Pope?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I was catfished by Mark Pope. That's exactly. He's a
great dude. He's very bright, very funny. I have I
know people that have worked for him that like him.
He's an immensely likable guy, which course gives me all
the fear in the world that he's going to Kentucky
and those people will change him in some demonic figure.
But I don't think that's gonna happen, you know. And
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you can go and point out all these different coaches
you could have had or whatever, but the truth is
that you're kind of annoying that that's how people view you.
I know, I'm kind of annoying right in a different way.
And like, if you're Kentucky, it's okay to not be
for everybody. Lots of coaches were not people's first choice.
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Dana Altman was famously like not anybody's first, second, third, fourth,
fifth choice. In organ that guy is amazing. This is
one of those. We also will also do a thing
where we where we criticize the uh what's it called
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when you hire a search firm? Everybody was criticized when
you hire a search firm because they don't know what
search firms actually do. Search firms make it so that
you don't know who you're reaching out to, that all
the background work is already done so that when you
go and make a higher like had they gone out
and just been negotiating with Mark Pope, it would have
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been a much easier sale all of these jobs. I mean,
Louisville was open for everyone who was coming open forever,
and you get the sense that who turned it down
turned it down. But if you don't know who turned
it down, it doesn't look nearly as bad. And that's
the beauty to the search firm is like wow, And
you could also also pass it off as well. That's
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just the search firm doing what the search firms does.
Because Mark Pope had turned around BYU basketball this year,
he won at Utah Valley status previously, which is like
a college, it's basically in the shadow of BYU. But
you know, and yeah, I don't I don't hate it.
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I'd like to see a guy get a chance at
a higher level. And it's the old question, if you
can do that at BYU, what can you do at Kentucky?
You know, And the criticism of John Caliperry was, well,
you know that act had kind of run tired. So
this guy has a completely different pitch spiel. I think
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a more you got to develop some talent. Now, you've
got to recruit out of the portal. Now, you got
to be more creative now because the old days of
lining up and trying to get the five best high
school products doesn't work. Doesn't work. There's a myriad of reasons.
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We could do a whole radio show, and I do
think it'll get back to closer to working the G League.
Ignite went away. If overtime Elite goes away, I think,
and with all the nil and kids reportedly making you know,
seven figures, I think more and more kids will go
to and stay in college. But when they stay in
college again makes it harder to win with younger players.
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So doing the same thing over and over again, even
though it's been successful for Kentucky for a while, it
doesn't mean it's always going to work when the landscape
has changed. But I I I just think it's hilarious
that Kentucky fans don't understand how they are perceived and
how that perception drives a lot of people away. And
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the perfect example of it is the massive overreaction to
one of their own, a Kentucky alum, who just took
his team to the NCA Tournament, getting the job being
met with It's kind of like when you when you
when you drink a cough syrup when you're a kid.
Oh JESU, what is that?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I find it hilarious that they would rather have Bruce
Pearl and Rick Patino, not because of their coaching ability,
but because of what Patino and he went to Louisville.
Bruce Pearl has been a thorn on the side of
KI Kentucky, whether he be at Tennessee or at Auburn
or whatever. They would rather have those options than to
have one of their own, who again won a national
championship with them almost thirty years ago. Yeah, well, I
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love it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And people like to talk about loyalty, and then when
you bring in one of your own, you know you're not.
People are so disloyal and don't even want to give
it a chance. So and then of course you have
the all the old the pope, the fact that he's
the pope and it's the head coach of Kentucky, and
I think you tweeted out yesterday with the white smoke.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yes, yes, six likes. I think it got well.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I liked it. I don't know if I actually you
appreciate it. I appreciate it even if I didn't like it.
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Speaker 2 (17:04):
Good morning to your damn patri show. On a Friday,
Fox Sports Radio, I will say that Friday filling in
for Dan and or Friday when they have meet Friday
in Connecticut and us being just here in this beautiful, palatial,
brand new studio in southern California. But the idea that
I could be having meat Friday coming off of a
(17:24):
trigger grill, I think that's an l for us let's
catch you now.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Sorry to let you down, Doug. Yeah, not you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's just the kind of general setup.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Of voting a smoker.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, bring bringing the trigger. I am a guy. I'll
just tell you, like, I'm kind of like wimpy when
I buy hamburger meat and it's like really good at
hamburger meat, and you know, I'm like a one and
a half burger guy. Like man, I'll sit around and
have a burger in the morning. I have no there's
no shame in that at all to me. So had
they been meet Friday, even on the West coast, even
(17:57):
at six twenty four, I would have been having a
burger right now. How do you take your burger? There? Uh?
Dan byer.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Medium usually cheese, no plain hamburger. Remember diet of an
eight year old dude? Well, so that means lots of ketchup. No,
no ketchup, no mustard die diet.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Of an eight year old or yeah, kid, I would
think American cheese and a ton of ketchup.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
No, not at all, plain hamburger, but and meat only.
That's it. Yep, that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You are Midwest old school case. You're wondering, which no
one actually asked okay, lots of cheese, big thick piece
of fresh it's got to be really good tomato. But
I just I need the I need texture wise and
temperature wise to tomato. Yes, ketchup. You know that truff
sauce you ever have? You have that really expensive truff
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sauce where they have like truffle in there or whatever.
Mix it in with your bottes. Oh incredible. And if
you're gonna do onion, red onion. Jason Sobel joins us. Uh.
He of course hosts the Master's Radio, which is a
station unlike any other I'm kidding on serious xtent. He
joins us after day one at the Masters, Jason, now, are.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You good morning to you?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Good morning guys. Look, we'll get to the Masters. That's
all all and good. I gotta get in on this
meet Friday. We've got a big team here for Masters
Radio this week. And so instead of everyone getting done
every night trying to figure out like, all right, I'm
going here for dinner, I'm going there and what do
you need, we have catered food every night. We had
Jimmy Haygood, who's a local chef, coming in. A local
(19:31):
cook came in the other night and they ha like
burntens and he made like brisket mac and cheese. We
have grandmother's mac and jeans recipe. They're like thirty of
us hanging out. I'm telling you, that's the best part
of Master's Week for me.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Right, What is the setup?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Because I don't think people realize the maybe lack of
hotel rooms. How do you guys set up for a
week at an event like this? Is it just you
guys were in a house, You're sharing rooms? What is
it for you guys?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
We've got many houses. We've got to think four or
five houses within the Master's Radio team. Like I said,
I think it was thirty two total people credentialed and
some might have been here early in the week, some
are coming later in the week. Not everyone's here the
entire week, but for the most part, yeah, I think
it's five houses. Aaron's got their own room, Everyone's got
their own bed. They take great care of us, and
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like I said, catered every night, just because it actually
probably cuts down on the expenses. You know, if you
think about thirty different people going to thirty different dinners
every night, Hey, you might as well just bring in
food for everybody and all hang out together. So it's honestly,
and this is gonna sound really cheesy, it's honestly my
favorite part of the week. I get, it's the Master,
It's the best tournament of the year, I got the Bashville,
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greatest course of the year, the best of the best
are all playing against each other once again. But to
be able to hang out with like this really cool
team of people and like you get done every night
and we're like all just together and we're all working
towards the same goal. That part to me is like
I love being part of a team.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Plus you don't have the expense reports to that day rights.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Exactly, I just exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I just I literally had a lot myself into my
house and do expense reports today. It's just a doors
Eldrick Tiger Woods, how do you look.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Pretty good? I feel like this is a typical Tiger
Woods at Augusta in the opening round, which is I've
always likened into a heavyweight fighter Doug at the opening
round in Augusta, Like, hey, just throw some jabs, don't
need to have a throw a haymaker, don't need to
knock out the opponent. Just make sure you don't get
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punched in the face. That's exactly what he's done over
the first eighteen holes here, kept himself in it. Doesn't
need to be in the lead. Look, does Tiger really inside?
I know what he said on Tuesday, Yeah, show up
to tournaments to win, and I still think I can
pick off another one here. But this guy who's played very,
very few rounds of golf, he's only played a round
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and a half competitively this year so far, I don't
know that deep inside he believes he can go win
this golf tournament. But he's keeping himself in it. There
are a lot of much more accomplished players, and buy accomplished,
I mean this year, guys who've played a lot more
guys who are higher on the world ranking, guys who
are doing bigger and better things right now currently than Tiger,
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who have much worse scores through eighteen holes. So I'll
hold themselves together very well.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm watching from my living room three time zones away.
But in terms of his presence and what has not
been a normal year for golf, it feels more divided
than ever. Does just his presence carry an enormous weight
in making I know it's the masters. We all love
the Masters, everybody comes together. But how much does Tiger
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being there kind of make up for what we've maybe
missed so far in the first three or four months
of this year.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, no doubt. It makes it a more momentous event
with Tiger involved. Look, I don't know that ratings wise,
if Tiger's on serious contention, that his presence is necessarily
gonna make a massive difference, because people are gonna watch
the Masters no matter what. But it just brings a
little more buzz, brings a little more energy to the event,
and it's great to say there and quite frankly, this
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is a different Tiger Woods than we had ten, fifteen,
twenty years ago, who was all game face and just
wanted to go out there and step on the throats
of his opponents. Out there playing practice rounds with his buddies.
He's smiling, he's having a little more fun. His press
conference on Tuesday, I was in there. He seems not
just relaxed, but a little nostalgic. Now. Granted, a lot
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of the questions were about him someday playing an honorary
role in Augusta and you know, winding down his career,
and so he was kind of forced to answer those
questions and be a little nostalgic. But Tiger Woods ten
to fifteen years ago would not have talked in that
Dane than he is right now.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Doug Gottlieb Dan Byer in for Dan Dennis here on
the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports rate Jason Sobols our guest.
Of course, you can hear him on Masters Radio on
Sirius XM, and he joins us here on the Dan
Patrick Show. What about the rest of the field in
regards to the living thing, Like, how how does this
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field feel with the two kind of groups, the Hatfields
and McCoy's sort of coming together.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
So I think that we in the media, the public
tend to make a much bigger deal about it than
the players too. I think the players are sort of like, oh, yeah,
that's that's Sergio. I played with him for twenty years
and now he's on another tour, but he's back here
and we'll play together, and it's not really a big deal.
I think that's more of an US problem than a
them problem. By and large, almost every single player you
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speak with right now says, we need to figure this out.
We need to get away that we can figure out
how the PGA tour players and live players can come
together and play together again. I do think it's gonna happen.
I don't think it's gonna happen very quickly, as we've seen.
There was a December thirty first deadline, then there was
a deadline for this week, and I don't think that's
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gonna happen, and so this deal's gonna take a while
to come through. I do think at some point though,
they will be playing together more frequently than just the
major championships. But I don't want the public out there
to believe that, you know, Bryson's in first and Scotty's
in second, those guys hate each other because they play
different tours right now. I mean, think about it. If
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you're in whatever industry you're in, and you meet up
with someone who's a competitor that you used to work with,
you go, okay, well it don't mean I hate them now.
It just means we work at different places, and you know,
once in a while we see each other and we
can still hang out a little bit.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
All right.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I'm not a fan of lift. It's known on on
this network, so I'll just say that. But if we
do have a scenario Jason, where Bryson and Scotti Scheffler
are going head to head, you know, over Saturday and Sun,
and there are other players, but they're they're the top
two right now off the heels of what Brooks did
last year like that, is there more credibility? Because I
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felt like we were asking that question last year when
when Brooks won when the PGA, We're saying, does this
add credibility to live? If Bryce does this, does this
add even more credibility or are we past that point
in trying to validate what that tour is.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah. I feel the same way about Bryson winning this
week as I did about Brooks at the PGA. And
I give Brooks a lot of credit because the avenue
was open, the door, the door was open. The question
was asked as to whether this sort of validates live golf,
whether this gives them reason to you know, hey, we
should have world ranking points, we should be thought of
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as a bigger two or Brooks said, no, I'm just me.
I'm not live golf. I play there. I'm just me.
I want a golf tournament. This doesn't have any sort of,
you know, outward narrative towards anything else. I don't know
what Bryson will necessarily say, but I have a feeling
it'll probably be about the same thing that you know.
This isn't necessarily just a win for live Golf. I
know Greg Norman, I know all the the live trolls
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on social media will try to turn this into like
live one PGA to or lost, But I just don't
think that's what it is. It's an individual player playing
an individual sport who happens to play for a certain tour,
and if he does win, I don't think it's necessarily
any like sort of big thing for Live It's just
a big thing for Bryson or whoever it might be.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
If you were a betting man, who would you bet?
Who would you bet wins this tournament?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well? Can I throw away all my tickets to start
the week because those aren't looking too good right now?
It's Scotty Scheffler. And you know, I hate the fact
that in the betting markets, Scotty Scheffler's it's such a
short number right now. He opened it four to one,
four and a half to one in most books, which
it's really hard to get behind with our eighty nine
players in an entire field, and then he shoot six
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o there and now he's more than half that is
a third that number, So you'll get him at the
plus one twenty five plus one fifty number, even in
second place right now. And it's really hard to look
at anybody else and want to hedge off of Scotty
and think that somebody else is going to beat him.
Right now, he's just that good.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I got one last one for me, Jason, And it's
nothing to do with the top of the leader board.
It has to do with Phil Micholson. It's something and
live all plays into it. But this is a tournament
that celebrates its former champions and great final round last year,
surges to the top of the leader board with very
little fanfare and TV coverage, shoots a one over seventy three.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I knew that because I had to look it up.
I don't even know what Phil mcholson.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Wore yesterday because I don't remember seeing him during the broadcast.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Is this a conscious effort? Is this because Phil is
fifty three? Why how has it gotten to this point?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I guess it is the best question with at one
point one of the most beloved players that we've ever
had in.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
The game, Yeah, the turnabout for Phil Ncholson over the
last few years has been very, very strange. He has
played a bigger role for as much as I said, look,
Brooks didn't take credit for his win and say that
this was a Live narrative and say this is a
big win for Live, I don't think Brice will do
the same. Phil is very much on the other side
of that. Bill. Bill is very vocal in his support
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for his own tour.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It has turned in from a beloved figure in the
game of golf to essentially sort of a villain. Now
do I know if the TV networks are saying, hey,
don't show Phil Nicholson that much because he's not the
same Pill Nicholson that everybody idolized a few years ago,
I have no idea. I can tell you that I
don't believe we're doing that on radio. But again, if
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he's not shooting a score that necessarily warrants the coverage,
then I do think that that Phil has definitely taken
a turn over the last few years, and you know,
things have a way of settling down. Like I said,
I think there'll be a deal at some point. I
think Phil Nicholson will become back in the good graces
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of the general public at some point, but right now
he's a little persona non grade golf. But it's just
very strange.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
It truly is.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, I don't feel nearly as bad for you know,
and you stand at some palatial state and having catered
food every night. So enjoy the masters. Thanks so much
for joining us, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Guys are good that Jason, So don't you think maybe,
don't you think that's actually not a great way to
start to start a question, isn't it? It just isn't
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feel like the live guys should lean into the villain role,
Like all of them should wear like leather cut off shirts,
maybe get some sleeve tats, like they could be the
bad boys at golf, right.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, yeah, I do think that there are a few
of them, like Patrick Reid would play that pretty well. Sure,
But I don't even think Bryson who's the top of
the leaderboard here. He was a villain at one point,
even before Live came along, and I don't think that
they like that role. It's a heavy burden. Brooks played
that role, and I think Brooks is even softened over time.
(31:05):
It's I get what you're saying, but I don't know
if if a lot of these guys are are built
to play that role.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
No, the film thing is amazing, right, It's like like
Tiger is sort of becoming like Tom Brady because remember,
for a long time Tom Brady was despised when he
was New England, despised, and then he goes to Tampa
and he's the one who escaped Belichick. He wins the
super Bowl and now like he's the coolest dork ever, right, really,
(31:39):
the coolest dorky dude ever be love. Everyone's like man
the goat he walks in like wait a second. When
he was in New England, people hated him and there
was a time when Tiger was was was really not liked, uh,
even by members of their tour.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah well yeah, yeah, I had heard Tiger was pretty
good in the locker room, but yeah, there was yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
There were some there were some times, there's but Phil. Phil.
It was the outward facing, the forward facing image of
and everyone seemed to every frat boy and golf dude
and country club guys, yes, like Phil, and he was.
He went for it, and he gambled, gambled literally and
more figuratively. And now he's like I thought, persona non
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grada was the perfect way of saying.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
We're not We're not even three years removed from him
becoming the oldest major champion ever. But in those three
years liv came about, he had his comments, he was
driving force, you know, behind that league starting and yeah,
it's just for a championship and tournament that celebrates its
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former champions. For him to just a three time winner
and really, honestly the face of it. For a while,
when Tiger was going through his stuff, sure, it's it's
I never would have thought in a million years would
be at that point.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Okay, But then Jason was like, yeah, he'll be back
in the good graces of golf fans maybe in a year,
Like I don't know if that's the.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Case, is gonna be fifty four, I believe this summer,
And so you also wonder how much are you going
to be playing golf, and how do you have an
opportunity to put yourself back in the good graces, especially
if there's no merger between the two tours.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Okay, so here's a here's a question. And please if
you don't think I'm an idiot, that's fine because I
literally don't know. One of the things I don't I
don't do is I don't make comments about people or
eras that I wasn't alive and I didn't study, and
I don't know. So was there of the older golfers, right,
were any of them like this where during their era
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they weren't liked and now we've come around to loving them,
you know, well I'm talking. You know, we have the
Gary players and the I mean.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Arnie and Jack were you know, but obviously time heals
all wounds. I think Faldo was that role. I think
that that Faldo really wasn't liked helps when you turn
to the media and then you're heard all the time
and to that point. But I think that that would
be that would be a prominent name. Jack and Tom
Watson were always rivals, but I don't think that they
were ever fierce entemies by any means.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
So so yeah, It's it's been few.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
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dot com slash Patrick right now. Okay, so Dan, I
don't know if it's hard to keep up with the
daily basis of the the NBA standings, right, and they
kind of threw us a curve ball with the play
in tournament, because they're like, wait, what Okay, now we're
back to the regular scheduling programming. Then you have the
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NCAA tournament, Now you have Masters golf, you know, and
we're like, all right, playoffs are right after the Masters.
We get to the last weekend. But if you're just
just catching up to this season story, Warriors, the Kings,
and the Lakers are all are all tied with two
games remaining. Now the Kings have clinched the tiebreaker over both. Right,
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in a three tie, the order would be Sacramento eight,
Golden State, nine, Lakers, ten, Lakers ten. So what you
thing happens?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
I want to answer it by I don't think it
even matters. I don't think that Sacramento is a threat.
So if I'm any of the teams that are up there,
I'd want to see Sacramento just because of the injuries
to Monk and Herder. I don't think that they're a
legitimate threat. So if I'm Denver mid.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Hot take, Danfier called Sacramento illegitimate, illegitimate, and what a
team right, Right, If I'm going to do a hot take,
let's do it against it with the Sacramento Kings and
not the Golden State Warriors or the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
But there's a part of.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Me that also feels the same way as I don't
think Denver fears either team the Lakers. I would actually
believe more into the Lakers despite the warriors good fortune
than the win over the Lakers if they were to
do anything in these playoffs. But ultimately I just don't
think it matters, especially if I do surviving in getting
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the eight seed, because I think Denver makes quick work
of whoever they face.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I would agree, but Okay, but here's where it's like
there is there are two other teams that's all related to.
So then you have the Suns and the Pelicans, and
the Pelicans are a game up, two games remaining. The
Pelicans have to go to Golden State, then they have
the Lakers at home. The Suns go to Sacramento, then
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they go to Minnesota. Now we would think Minnesota, you know,
down shifts a little bit, but also Minnesota trying to
jockey for pole position. Do they want they can still
potentially get to one seed or the two seed or
the three seed. Like this had things kind of interesting.
I normally I would say it doesn't matter, but it
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totally matters because you don't know. Denver's very likely to
be the one seed, but they haven't locked it up yet.
They got San Anto, O'Neill and Memphis. They win one
of those games, they lock up, they get the one seed.
But then you've got Minnesota and Scum. Then that's then
you have Minnesota and the Thunder and neither of those
teams have done bub kiss in the playoffs. Karl Anthony
(38:15):
Towns has been out, but you still I think people
think the Wolves are the more dangerous postseason team than
the Thunder are. On the other hand, like, we don't
know what the Thunder look like in the playoffs becausey'veen
looked really good in the regular season, so I disagree
with you. So we don't know who the who the
sixth seed will be because remember the if it's Suns, Kings, Warriors,
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Lakers only to get to go to the actual playoffs.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Correct, But why does that matter in the grand scheme
of things? Well, because first thing is that means very likely.
I mean either Kevin Durant as of now, either Kevin Durant,
Stephan Stephen Curry, or Lebron James Anthony Davis are not
in the playoffs, yep, one of those three. Totally get it,
totally get it. It's funny because I actually think that
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the NBA would have looked at this. I think they
would like it. They thought it was gonna be the reverse. Yes,
Lakers and Warriors battling for number one, and here you
have the showdown between the Nuggets and Thunder and Timberwolves
that are gonna be in the plan. And maybe one
of those hot young teams can challenge one of these
veteran laden Warriors or Lakers teams, and it may actually
(39:26):
be better because it draws interest to the play in
tournament that way. Like again, when you see like clinch
playoff berth, like the Pelicans haven't clinched the playoff berth,
but they're gonna be in the play in tournament or
the actual playoffs. So there's nothing to worry about except
for the fact that you don't want to be seven, eight,
nine or ten if you're New Orleans at this point.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I just don't think they're legitimate.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
I just don't think those teams legitimate threats, no towards
anything like we should be treating it like we treat
the East.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Actually, right now.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I yeah, okay, But here's the thing. If you are
the if you're the Thunder, you're the Thunder. Do you
really want to face the Warriors or the Lakers?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Probably not?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I mean the Lakers. The Lakers kind of pushed around
the Thunder in the regular season. So I'm with you
on on Denver, with you on Denver. On the other hand,
like again, if you're Denver, I think you want to
play the Suns, But are we really sure that's who
you want to match up.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
We saw what Golden State did the Sacramento I mean,
I shouldn't say did to them. It took them seven games,
but in that seventh game they ended up pulling away.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Last year, yes, but I also think that the way
Sacramento plays and this year's Sacramento, like, now, you want
to play Sacramento because they're depleted, But the pace of
that series I thought wore out the Warriors for the Lakers.
And then again, you want to play teams that are depleted.
That's not with the Lakers. Last year, as you know,
they got in and they played the Grizzlies, but the
Grizzlies didn't have either their two big guys, so they
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just dominated them inside. But yeah, Like I think it's
funny these the Warriors and Lakers specifically, you know, trying
to play catch up here and get into the real field.
And we liken this on my show yesterday. It's like
the it's like the severely obese person like John Goodman.
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You see John Goodman lost like one hundred pounds or
one hundred fifty pounds. You know, I'm talking like the
famous actor with the with the incredible voice that from
the Big.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Lebowski Roseanne Connors.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, And guys that carry that much weight for too long,
they still had en up. You know, five years later
they still have major health issues like yeah, but you
carry that weight. Or Carmelo Anthony that didn't carry way
too long, didn't take care of his body for a
long time, notoriously like bad eat, hangout guy, whatever, and
then late in his career he wants to take care
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of his body. The damage is kind of done right.
Your body's kind of worn down by it. I think
like these teams are all paying nobody paid attention to
the regular season, miss the game here or there, lose
the game here or there, and now all of a sudden,
look at it now, You're just fighting to get in
the play and let alone avoid playing the Nuggets.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
If you make the playoffs, the top half of that
West is going to be crazy though.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, but do you do you know what the thunder
look like in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
No, but I'm just saying that if you had a
Denver Dallas Western Conference semi final, which could be the case,
are the Clippers look out?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah? And what the what the Clippers look like? Do
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We still have some uh some o J Simpson, I
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Speaker 4 (00:49):
I'm trying.
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I'm good with that. Okay, Hey doing Dan, I'm great, Doug,
I'm great. Masters first round wrapping up. Second round has
already begune. So you've got this converging of rounds at Augusta.
So yeah, it's a great day. It is a good day.
It is a good day.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
White smoking Lexington.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
White smoking Lexington. So Mark Pope is going to be
the new head coach of Big Blue Nation. And if
you're sitting there going like, who in the hell is
Mark prope Kentucky? People actually know who Mark Pope is
because he played at Kentucky, started his current at University Washington,
transferred in and played for Rick Patino at Kentucky, part
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of one of their national championship teams under Patino. And
he's been the head coach at Utah Valley State and
BYU and just this year he took BYU to the
NCAA tournament. And yeah, it's so there's a there's a
lot to unpack there, right, because you sit there going like,
(01:53):
wait a second. First they were talking about Dan Hurley,
who just won back to back national titles. Then they
were talking about Billy Donovan who won back to back
national titles, was the last guy to do it before
Dan Hurley. They're talking about Scott Drew who won a
national title and as is a top twenty program year
in year out of Bailey. And now you talk about
Mark Pope, I've never heard of before. Again, I when
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I say I've never I'm taking the average college fan
of some level. But I gotta say I don't hate it.
I mean, I'm just are we really going to do
the whole circus where you have to have been uh,
you have to have been in the SEC just like
let's just do the SEC musical chairs. Bruce Pearl would
(02:41):
would work. But also Bruce Pearl's probably like, I don't know,
five years from not coaching anymore and he already is
in the SEC, and you bring a guy home and
I love the I love the people, Like look at
the recruiting classes he's had, he's at BYU, and people
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know I'm big in the Mormon community. I am. I
when I was in Connecticut, I literally had Mormons on
each side of my house and incredible neighbors and people,
so much so that I am Brother Doug to many people.
I'm being only half facetious because I really do have
a lot of Mormon friends. But like, look, we all
kind of know the deal. You have to sign an
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honor code, and they actually live up to that honor
code in terms of no sex, no drugs, no rock
and roll if you in college. And he's done some
unique things at BYU, and this year they shot more
threes th and two's. He's played in the NBA. I
don't know, like we make it out like you have
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to have you have to have been some Carnival Barker
in the past to coach at Kentucky and maybe you
could just coach because you've played there and you know
how to coach basketball. And we'll see if people even alone.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
How much is it?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Because I think that there are a lot of schools
that feel I think there are a lot of schools
at a certain level that have a let's bring them
home guy, right, Like, it's not every school, but you
have that guy. Honestly, you may be it for Oklahoma State,
but that's a completely different story. The point is is
Kentucky seems to be this different animal where bringing a
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guy home is not good enough. And I don't know
if it's a you know, third choice, fourth choice, that
sort of syndrome, but it sure doesn't equate to any
other basketball program in college basketball because Kentucky really isn't
like any other program in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, No, doesn't mean it's not a precursor for success,
you know. I mean Billy Gillespie when he went there,
I mean everyone myself included would have said, man, that
that'll work. Right. But I also think that part of
it is the timing of how things went down, mean
that many of these coaches had already turned down like
a different job, whether it's Arkanshaw job, or any of
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these other jobs the Louisville j up. And so they
had already gone back to their athletic directors who had,
you know, promised them more money and promised them more
nil and or or some of them just have these
ridiculous buyouts. And maybe he just sat there and go like, okay,
like Mick Cronin would be great, but I got to
pay a sixteen million dollar buyout, and why would I
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can bring a Kentucky guy home? Obviously, I mean I
believe that every school is different, but for my school,
I thought bringing somebody home is is important because the
basketball coach, the football I mean the football coach, the
baseball coach, the now retiring wrestling coach, down Smith, all
the lums. And I do think that in recruiting, your
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recruiting is telling a story, right of what your four
years or you know, one, two, three years will look like.
And when you're recruiting to your school, you're telling your story.
There is some definite risk because if it doesn't work
now all of a sudden, do you cut that part
of your history or of the school's history off if
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you lose, right, But there's also there's also a ton
to be gained for when it's your guy, there's a lot,
maybe more loyalty, there's an ability to translate what it's
like to be a part of Kentucky's big Blue Nation.
And by the way, as much as we can sit
here and go, hey, he's not as accompassed as X,
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Y and Z. If we're looking at the five biggest jobs,
right the two others on the Eastern seaboard, right North
Carolina and Duke. They're both coached by alums. Both of
them were never head coaches before they got that job.
So like you can be critical of Mark Pope's hiring
in comparison to if you are going to hire Dan Hurley.
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But whatever you think of what they're doing at North Carolina,
haven't gone to a Final four two years ago, three
years or three seasons ago, whatever. This year, they were
a one seed last year, obviously disappointed to make the tournament.
And that Duke john Shire is a lump. And they
had never coached before at all as head coach. They've
been assistant coaches, but it never been head coached at all.
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And then of course the UCLA bit Crooran, who is
who you know, was a well decorated head coach before
he got that job. And then Kansas is Bill self,
and of course he was a well decorated head coach.
So there's no one perfect way to to thread this thing.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I do think Duke and North Carolina are a bit
unique into because of who their predecessors were. Sure succession plan, yes,
absolutely sure, and that makes it makes it tricky. Kentucky
is also sitting there saying and timing of it is
in a fact there because it's Kentucky, not that the
timing is even off. It's different if a coach would
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leave during the summer, but we're right out of the
gates of the final four. I just I think it's
the fact of they also couldn't get what they wanted.
They were turned down, or the fan base feels that
they were turned down by those other options.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's funny because it's like the fan base turning on
one of their own. And Mark Pope is the exact
reason that a lot of these coaches are like whoa sure,
It's like, uh what what is it?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh? Man? Is it Kingpin? Things?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Kingpin?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Where He's just.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Who are you calling? Psycho?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, It's like, man, your fans are crazy That's
why coaches like, what do you mean Our fans aren't crazy,
We just do want to hire some guy that we
don't like. He's like, but he's one of your own.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
And he's one of your own.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Who are you calling psycho from one of your from
one of your best teams that you've ever had as
a school.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know that, I know Market, I know how I
know Market's actually the funny. This is actually one of
my funnier stories. So when I was working at CBS,
there was a year where I did thirteen UNLV games,
you know, be home games thirteen. I was living in
southern California, like am now, and I was doing all
those Mountain West games and they were really good. Dave
(09:14):
Rice was the head coach. By the way, Dave just
got a junior college head coaching job after I think
it's Snow at what's.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Called Snow Snow.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Junior College, I think, which is in Salt Lake City.
I believe that's the one he just got. He got
to you, Dave, and he was at cal Baptist. So
I would take off and it got to the point
where I was like, hey, do you guys mind if
I just like fly in day of the game, like
you no problem. You know, from where I lived is
like ten minutes to Orange County Airport, and Orange County
(09:45):
Airport is a forty five minute flight. And the games
were at eight, and I would get done at three,
and i'd get in a flight at like four, land
at five, and just go directly to Thomas Mack, which
is right off the runway that's where you And so
without fail, I would land and I would text Dave Rice, hey, man,
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do you mind if I come up to the office,
And usually I would go right up. Well, my one
of my numbers for Dave Rice. I kept it was
Mark Pope's number because Dave had been at BYU as
an assistant coach and he gave Mark his number for
his school cell phone. So it's one of those where
I would just with that well out looking. I had
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multiple Dave Rice numbers and type dating Dave Rice, and
all of a sudden, Mark Pope would start this conversation
with me as if he was Dave Rice, but he
was really Mark Pope. He's like, hey, Doug, it's actually
Mark Pope. Wrong number. So I had it like a
probably three month long text exchange going on with Pope.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Were you cat fish by Mark Pope?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I was catfished by Mark Pope. That's exactly. He's a
great dude. He's very bright, very funny. I have I
know people that have worked for him that like him.
He's an immensely likable guy, which course gives me all
the fear in the world that he's going to Kentucky
and those people will change him in some demonic figure.
But I don't think that's gonna happen, you know. And
(11:09):
you can go and point out all these different coaches
you could have had or whatever, but the truth is
that you're kind of annoying that that's how people view you.
I know, I'm kind of annoying right in a different way.
And like, if you're Kentucky, it's okay to not be
for everybody. Lots of coaches were not people's first choice.
(11:33):
Dana Altman was famously like not anybody's first, second, third, fourth,
fifth choice. In organ that guy is amazing. This is
one of those. We also will also do a thing
where we where we criticize the uh what's it called
(11:53):
when you hire a search firm? Everybody was criticized when
you hire a search firm because they don't know what
search firms actually do. Search firms make it so that
you don't know who you're reaching out to, that all
the background work is already done so that when you
go and make a higher like had they gone out
and just been negotiating with Mark Pope, it would have
(12:15):
been a much easier sale all of these jobs. I mean,
Louisville was open for everyone who was coming open forever,
and you get the sense that who turned it down
turned it down. But if you don't know who turned
it down, it doesn't look nearly as bad. And that's
the beauty to the search firm is like wow, And
you could also also pass it off as well. That's
(12:38):
just the search firm doing what the search firms does.
Because Mark Pope had turned around BYU basketball this year,
he won at Utah Valley status previously, which is like
a college, it's basically in the shadow of BYU. But
you know, and yeah, I don't I don't hate it.
(13:01):
I'd like to see a guy get a chance at
a higher level. And it's the old question, if you
can do that at BYU, what can you do at Kentucky?
You know, And the criticism of John Caliperry was, well,
you know that act had kind of run tired. So
this guy has a completely different pitch spiel. I think
(13:22):
a more you got to develop some talent. Now, you've
got to recruit out of the portal. Now, you got
to be more creative now because the old days of
lining up and trying to get the five best high
school products doesn't work. Doesn't work. There's a myriad of reasons.
(13:42):
We could do a whole radio show, and I do
think it'll get back to closer to working the G League.
Ignite went away. If overtime Elite goes away, I think,
and with all the nil and kids reportedly making you know,
seven figures, I think more and more kids will go
to and stay in college. But when they stay in
college again makes it harder to win with younger players.
(14:04):
So doing the same thing over and over again, even
though it's been successful for Kentucky for a while, it
doesn't mean it's always going to work when the landscape
has changed. But I I I just think it's hilarious
that Kentucky fans don't understand how they are perceived and
how that perception drives a lot of people away. And
(14:28):
the perfect example of it is the massive overreaction to
one of their own, a Kentucky alum, who just took
his team to the NCA Tournament, getting the job being
met with It's kind of like when you when you
when you drink a cough syrup when you're a kid.
Oh JESU, what is that?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I find it hilarious that they would rather have Bruce
Pearl and Rick Patino, not because of their coaching ability,
but because of what Patino and he went to Louisville.
Bruce Pearl has been a thorn on the side of
KI Kentucky, whether he be at Tennessee or at Auburn
or whatever. They would rather have those options than to
have one of their own, who again won a national
championship with them almost thirty years ago. Yeah, well, I
(15:10):
love it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And people like to talk about loyalty, and then when
you bring in one of your own, you know you're not.
People are so disloyal and don't even want to give
it a chance. So and then of course you have
the all the old the pope, the fact that he's
the pope and it's the head coach of Kentucky, and
I think you tweeted out yesterday with the white smoke.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yes, yes, six likes. I think it got well.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I liked it. I don't know if I actually you
appreciate it. I appreciate it even if I didn't like it.
Coming up next, how Tiger, Look, I'm not physically like golf.
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Speaker 2 (17:04):
Good morning to your damn patri show. On a Friday,
Fox Sports Radio, I will say that Friday filling in
for Dan and or Friday when they have meet Friday
in Connecticut and us being just here in this beautiful, palatial,
brand new studio in southern California. But the idea that
I could be having meat Friday coming off of a
(17:24):
trigger grill, I think that's an l for us let's
catch you now.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Sorry to let you down, Doug. Yeah, not you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's just the kind of general setup.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Of voting a smoker.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, bring bringing the trigger. I am a guy. I'll
just tell you, like, I'm kind of like wimpy when
I buy hamburger meat and it's like really good at
hamburger meat, and you know, I'm like a one and
a half burger guy. Like man, I'll sit around and
have a burger in the morning. I have no there's
no shame in that at all to me. So had
they been meet Friday, even on the West coast, even
(17:57):
at six twenty four, I would have been having a
burger right now. How do you take your burger? There? Uh?
Dan byer.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Medium usually cheese, no plain hamburger. Remember diet of an
eight year old dude? Well, so that means lots of ketchup. No,
no ketchup, no mustard die diet.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Of an eight year old or yeah, kid, I would
think American cheese and a ton of ketchup.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
No, not at all, plain hamburger, but and meat only.
That's it. Yep, that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You are Midwest old school case. You're wondering, which no
one actually asked okay, lots of cheese, big thick piece
of fresh it's got to be really good tomato. But
I just I need the I need texture wise and
temperature wise to tomato. Yes, ketchup. You know that truff
sauce you ever have? You have that really expensive truff
(18:47):
sauce where they have like truffle in there or whatever.
Mix it in with your bottes. Oh incredible. And if
you're gonna do onion, red onion. Jason Sobel joins us. Uh.
He of course hosts the Master's Radio, which is a
station unlike any other I'm kidding on serious xtent. He
joins us after day one at the Masters, Jason, now, are.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You good morning to you?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Good morning guys. Look, we'll get to the Masters. That's
all all and good. I gotta get in on this
meet Friday. We've got a big team here for Masters
Radio this week. And so instead of everyone getting done
every night trying to figure out like, all right, I'm
going here for dinner, I'm going there and what do
you need, we have catered food every night. We had
Jimmy Haygood, who's a local chef, coming in. A local
(19:31):
cook came in the other night and they ha like
burntens and he made like brisket mac and cheese. We
have grandmother's mac and jeans recipe. They're like thirty of
us hanging out. I'm telling you, that's the best part
of Master's Week for me.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Right, What is the setup?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Because I don't think people realize the maybe lack of
hotel rooms. How do you guys set up for a
week at an event like this? Is it just you
guys were in a house, You're sharing rooms? What is
it for you guys?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
We've got many houses. We've got to think four or
five houses within the Master's Radio team. Like I said,
I think it was thirty two total people credentialed and
some might have been here early in the week, some
are coming later in the week. Not everyone's here the
entire week, but for the most part, yeah, I think
it's five houses. Aaron's got their own room, Everyone's got
their own bed. They take great care of us, and
(20:17):
like I said, catered every night, just because it actually
probably cuts down on the expenses. You know, if you
think about thirty different people going to thirty different dinners
every night, Hey, you might as well just bring in
food for everybody and all hang out together. So it's honestly,
and this is gonna sound really cheesy, it's honestly my
favorite part of the week. I get, it's the Master,
It's the best tournament of the year, I got the Bashville,
(20:38):
greatest course of the year, the best of the best
are all playing against each other once again. But to
be able to hang out with like this really cool
team of people and like you get done every night
and we're like all just together and we're all working
towards the same goal. That part to me is like
I love being part of a team.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Plus you don't have the expense reports to that day rights.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Exactly, I just exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I just I literally had a lot myself into my
house and do expense reports today. It's just a doors
Eldrick Tiger Woods, how do you look.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Pretty good? I feel like this is a typical Tiger
Woods at Augusta in the opening round, which is I've
always likened into a heavyweight fighter Doug at the opening
round in Augusta, Like, hey, just throw some jabs, don't
need to have a throw a haymaker, don't need to
knock out the opponent. Just make sure you don't get
(21:29):
punched in the face. That's exactly what he's done over
the first eighteen holes here, kept himself in it. Doesn't
need to be in the lead. Look, does Tiger really inside?
I know what he said on Tuesday, Yeah, show up
to tournaments to win, and I still think I can
pick off another one here. But this guy who's played very,
very few rounds of golf, he's only played a round
(21:49):
and a half competitively this year so far, I don't
know that deep inside he believes he can go win
this golf tournament. But he's keeping himself in it. There
are a lot of much more accomplished players, and buy accomplished,
I mean this year, guys who've played a lot more
guys who are higher on the world ranking, guys who
are doing bigger and better things right now currently than Tiger,
(22:10):
who have much worse scores through eighteen holes. So I'll
hold themselves together very well.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm watching from my living room three time zones away.
But in terms of his presence and what has not
been a normal year for golf, it feels more divided
than ever. Does just his presence carry an enormous weight
in making I know it's the masters. We all love
the Masters, everybody comes together. But how much does Tiger
(22:35):
being there kind of make up for what we've maybe
missed so far in the first three or four months
of this year.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, no doubt. It makes it a more momentous event
with Tiger involved. Look, I don't know that ratings wise,
if Tiger's on serious contention, that his presence is necessarily
gonna make a massive difference, because people are gonna watch
the Masters no matter what. But it just brings a
little more buzz, brings a little more energy to the event,
and it's great to say there and quite frankly, this
(23:01):
is a different Tiger Woods than we had ten, fifteen,
twenty years ago, who was all game face and just
wanted to go out there and step on the throats
of his opponents. Out there playing practice rounds with his buddies.
He's smiling, he's having a little more fun. His press
conference on Tuesday, I was in there. He seems not
just relaxed, but a little nostalgic. Now. Granted, a lot
(23:23):
of the questions were about him someday playing an honorary
role in Augusta and you know, winding down his career,
and so he was kind of forced to answer those
questions and be a little nostalgic. But Tiger Woods ten
to fifteen years ago would not have talked in that
Dane than he is right now.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Doug Gottlieb Dan Byer in for Dan Dennis here on
the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports rate Jason Sobols our guest.
Of course, you can hear him on Masters Radio on
Sirius XM, and he joins us here on the Dan
Patrick Show. What about the rest of the field in
regards to the living thing, Like, how how does this
(24:02):
field feel with the two kind of groups, the Hatfields
and McCoy's sort of coming together.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
So I think that we in the media, the public
tend to make a much bigger deal about it than
the players too. I think the players are sort of like, oh, yeah,
that's that's Sergio. I played with him for twenty years
and now he's on another tour, but he's back here
and we'll play together, and it's not really a big deal.
I think that's more of an US problem than a
them problem. By and large, almost every single player you
(24:32):
speak with right now says, we need to figure this out.
We need to get away that we can figure out
how the PGA tour players and live players can come
together and play together again. I do think it's gonna happen.
I don't think it's gonna happen very quickly, as we've seen.
There was a December thirty first deadline, then there was
a deadline for this week, and I don't think that's
(24:52):
gonna happen, and so this deal's gonna take a while
to come through. I do think at some point though,
they will be playing together more frequently than just the
major championships. But I don't want the public out there
to believe that, you know, Bryson's in first and Scotty's
in second, those guys hate each other because they play
different tours right now. I mean, think about it. If
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you're in whatever industry you're in, and you meet up
with someone who's a competitor that you used to work with,
you go, okay, well it don't mean I hate them now.
It just means we work at different places, and you know,
once in a while we see each other and we
can still hang out a little bit.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
All right.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
I'm not a fan of lift. It's known on on
this network, so I'll just say that. But if we
do have a scenario Jason, where Bryson and Scotti Scheffler
are going head to head, you know, over Saturday and Sun,
and there are other players, but they're they're the top
two right now off the heels of what Brooks did
last year like that, is there more credibility? Because I
(25:51):
felt like we were asking that question last year when
when Brooks won when the PGA, We're saying, does this
add credibility to live? If Bryce does this, does this
add even more credibility or are we past that point
in trying to validate what that tour is.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah. I feel the same way about Bryson winning this
week as I did about Brooks at the PGA. And
I give Brooks a lot of credit because the avenue
was open, the door, the door was open. The question
was asked as to whether this sort of validates live golf,
whether this gives them reason to you know, hey, we
should have world ranking points, we should be thought of
(26:28):
as a bigger two or Brooks said, no, I'm just me.
I'm not live golf. I play there. I'm just me.
I want a golf tournament. This doesn't have any sort of,
you know, outward narrative towards anything else. I don't know
what Bryson will necessarily say, but I have a feeling
it'll probably be about the same thing that you know.
This isn't necessarily just a win for live Golf. I
know Greg Norman, I know all the the live trolls
(26:50):
on social media will try to turn this into like
live one PGA to or lost, But I just don't
think that's what it is. It's an individual player playing
an individual sport who happens to play for a certain tour,
and if he does win, I don't think it's necessarily
any like sort of big thing for Live It's just
a big thing for Bryson or whoever it might be.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
If you were a betting man, who would you bet?
Who would you bet wins this tournament?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well? Can I throw away all my tickets to start
the week because those aren't looking too good right now?
It's Scotty Scheffler. And you know, I hate the fact
that in the betting markets, Scotty Scheffler's it's such a
short number right now. He opened it four to one,
four and a half to one in most books, which
it's really hard to get behind with our eighty nine
players in an entire field, and then he shoot six
(27:41):
o there and now he's more than half that is
a third that number, So you'll get him at the
plus one twenty five plus one fifty number, even in
second place right now. And it's really hard to look
at anybody else and want to hedge off of Scotty
and think that somebody else is going to beat him.
Right now, he's just that good.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I got one last one for me, Jason, And it's
nothing to do with the top of the leader board.
It has to do with Phil Micholson. It's something and
live all plays into it. But this is a tournament
that celebrates its former champions and great final round last year,
surges to the top of the leader board with very
little fanfare and TV coverage, shoots a one over seventy three.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I knew that because I had to look it up.
I don't even know what Phil mcholson.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Wore yesterday because I don't remember seeing him during the broadcast.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Is this a conscious effort? Is this because Phil is
fifty three? Why how has it gotten to this point?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I guess it is the best question with at one
point one of the most beloved players that we've ever
had in.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
The game, Yeah, the turnabout for Phil Ncholson over the
last few years has been very, very strange. He has
played a bigger role for as much as I said, look,
Brooks didn't take credit for his win and say that
this was a Live narrative and say this is a
big win for Live, I don't think Brice will do
the same. Phil is very much on the other side
of that. Bill. Bill is very vocal in his support
(29:04):
for his own tour.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It has turned in from a beloved figure in the
game of golf to essentially sort of a villain. Now
do I know if the TV networks are saying, hey,
don't show Phil Nicholson that much because he's not the
same Pill Nicholson that everybody idolized a few years ago,
I have no idea. I can tell you that I
don't believe we're doing that on radio. But again, if
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he's not shooting a score that necessarily warrants the coverage,
then I do think that that Phil has definitely taken
a turn over the last few years, and you know,
things have a way of settling down. Like I said,
I think there'll be a deal at some point. I
think Phil Nicholson will become back in the good graces
(29:48):
of the general public at some point, but right now
he's a little persona non grade golf. But it's just
very strange.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
It truly is.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, I don't feel nearly as bad for you know,
and you stand at some palatial state and having catered
food every night. So enjoy the masters. Thanks so much
for joining us, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Guys are good that Jason, So don't you think maybe,
don't you think that's actually not a great way to
start to start a question, isn't it? It just isn't
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(30:33):
feel like the live guys should lean into the villain role,
Like all of them should wear like leather cut off shirts,
maybe get some sleeve tats, like they could be the
bad boys at golf, right.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, yeah, I do think that there are a few
of them, like Patrick Reid would play that pretty well. Sure,
But I don't even think Bryson who's the top of
the leaderboard here. He was a villain at one point,
even before Live came along, and I don't think that
they like that role. It's a heavy burden. Brooks played
that role, and I think Brooks is even softened over time.
(31:05):
It's I get what you're saying, but I don't know
if if a lot of these guys are are built
to play that role.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
No, the film thing is amazing, right, It's like like
Tiger is sort of becoming like Tom Brady because remember,
for a long time Tom Brady was despised when he
was New England, despised, and then he goes to Tampa
and he's the one who escaped Belichick. He wins the
super Bowl and now like he's the coolest dork ever, right, really,
(31:39):
the coolest dorky dude ever be love. Everyone's like man
the goat he walks in like wait a second. When
he was in New England, people hated him and there
was a time when Tiger was was was really not liked, uh,
even by members of their tour.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah well yeah, yeah, I had heard Tiger was pretty
good in the locker room, but yeah, there was yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
There were some there were some times, there's but Phil. Phil.
It was the outward facing, the forward facing image of
and everyone seemed to every frat boy and golf dude
and country club guys, yes, like Phil, and he was.
He went for it, and he gambled, gambled literally and
more figuratively. And now he's like I thought, persona non
(32:26):
grada was the perfect way of saying.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
We're not We're not even three years removed from him
becoming the oldest major champion ever. But in those three
years liv came about, he had his comments, he was
driving force, you know, behind that league starting and yeah,
it's just for a championship and tournament that celebrates its
(32:48):
former champions. For him to just a three time winner
and really, honestly the face of it. For a while,
when Tiger was going through his stuff, sure, it's it's
I never would have thought in a million years would
be at that point.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Okay, But then Jason was like, yeah, he'll be back
in the good graces of golf fans maybe in a year,
Like I don't know if that's the.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Case, is gonna be fifty four, I believe this summer,
And so you also wonder how much are you going
to be playing golf, and how do you have an
opportunity to put yourself back in the good graces, especially
if there's no merger between the two tours.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Okay, so here's a here's a question. And please if
you don't think I'm an idiot, that's fine because I
literally don't know. One of the things I don't I
don't do is I don't make comments about people or
eras that I wasn't alive and I didn't study, and
I don't know. So was there of the older golfers, right,
were any of them like this where during their era
(33:51):
they weren't liked and now we've come around to loving them,
you know, well I'm talking. You know, we have the
Gary players and the I mean.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Arnie and Jack were you know, but obviously time heals
all wounds. I think Faldo was that role. I think
that that Faldo really wasn't liked helps when you turn
to the media and then you're heard all the time
and to that point. But I think that that would
be that would be a prominent name. Jack and Tom
Watson were always rivals, but I don't think that they
were ever fierce entemies by any means.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
So so yeah, It's it's been few.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
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dot com slash Patrick right now. Okay, so Dan, I
don't know if it's hard to keep up with the
daily basis of the the NBA standings, right, and they
kind of threw us a curve ball with the play
in tournament, because they're like, wait, what Okay, now we're
back to the regular scheduling programming. Then you have the
(35:36):
NCAA tournament, Now you have Masters golf, you know, and
we're like, all right, playoffs are right after the Masters.
We get to the last weekend. But if you're just
just catching up to this season story, Warriors, the Kings,
and the Lakers are all are all tied with two
games remaining. Now the Kings have clinched the tiebreaker over both. Right,
(35:59):
in a three tie, the order would be Sacramento eight,
Golden State, nine, Lakers, ten, Lakers ten. So what you
thing happens?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
I want to answer it by I don't think it
even matters. I don't think that Sacramento is a threat.
So if I'm any of the teams that are up there,
I'd want to see Sacramento just because of the injuries
to Monk and Herder. I don't think that they're a
legitimate threat. So if I'm Denver mid.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Hot take, Danfier called Sacramento illegitimate, illegitimate, and what a
team right, Right, If I'm going to do a hot take,
let's do it against it with the Sacramento Kings and
not the Golden State Warriors or the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
But there's a part of.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Me that also feels the same way as I don't
think Denver fears either team the Lakers. I would actually
believe more into the Lakers despite the warriors good fortune
than the win over the Lakers if they were to
do anything in these playoffs. But ultimately I just don't
think it matters, especially if I do surviving in getting
(37:09):
the eight seed, because I think Denver makes quick work
of whoever they face.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I would agree, but Okay, but here's where it's like
there is there are two other teams that's all related to.
So then you have the Suns and the Pelicans, and
the Pelicans are a game up, two games remaining. The
Pelicans have to go to Golden State, then they have
the Lakers at home. The Suns go to Sacramento, then
(37:33):
they go to Minnesota. Now we would think Minnesota, you know,
down shifts a little bit, but also Minnesota trying to
jockey for pole position. Do they want they can still
potentially get to one seed or the two seed or
the three seed. Like this had things kind of interesting.
I normally I would say it doesn't matter, but it
(37:53):
totally matters because you don't know. Denver's very likely to
be the one seed, but they haven't locked it up yet.
They got San Anto, O'Neill and Memphis. They win one
of those games, they lock up, they get the one seed.
But then you've got Minnesota and Scum. Then that's then
you have Minnesota and the Thunder and neither of those
teams have done bub kiss in the playoffs. Karl Anthony
(38:15):
Towns has been out, but you still I think people
think the Wolves are the more dangerous postseason team than
the Thunder are. On the other hand, like, we don't
know what the Thunder look like in the playoffs becausey'veen
looked really good in the regular season, so I disagree
with you. So we don't know who the who the
sixth seed will be because remember the if it's Suns, Kings, Warriors,
(38:37):
Lakers only to get to go to the actual playoffs.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Correct, But why does that matter in the grand scheme
of things? Well, because first thing is that means very likely.
I mean either Kevin Durant as of now, either Kevin Durant,
Stephan Stephen Curry, or Lebron James Anthony Davis are not
in the playoffs, yep, one of those three. Totally get it,
totally get it. It's funny because I actually think that
(39:04):
the NBA would have looked at this. I think they
would like it. They thought it was gonna be the reverse. Yes,
Lakers and Warriors battling for number one, and here you
have the showdown between the Nuggets and Thunder and Timberwolves
that are gonna be in the plan. And maybe one
of those hot young teams can challenge one of these
veteran laden Warriors or Lakers teams, and it may actually
(39:26):
be better because it draws interest to the play in
tournament that way. Like again, when you see like clinch
playoff berth, like the Pelicans haven't clinched the playoff berth,
but they're gonna be in the play in tournament or
the actual playoffs. So there's nothing to worry about except
for the fact that you don't want to be seven, eight,
nine or ten if you're New Orleans at this point.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I just don't think they're legitimate.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
I just don't think those teams legitimate threats, no towards
anything like we should be treating it like we treat
the East.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Actually, right now.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I yeah, okay, But here's the thing. If you are
the if you're the Thunder, you're the Thunder. Do you
really want to face the Warriors or the Lakers?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Probably not?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I mean the Lakers. The Lakers kind of pushed around
the Thunder in the regular season. So I'm with you
on on Denver, with you on Denver. On the other hand,
like again, if you're Denver, I think you want to
play the Suns, But are we really sure that's who
you want to match up.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
We saw what Golden State did the Sacramento I mean,
I shouldn't say did to them. It took them seven games,
but in that seventh game they ended up pulling away.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Last year, yes, but I also think that the way
Sacramento plays and this year's Sacramento, like, now, you want
to play Sacramento because they're depleted, But the pace of
that series I thought wore out the Warriors for the Lakers.
And then again, you want to play teams that are depleted.
That's not with the Lakers. Last year, as you know,
they got in and they played the Grizzlies, but the
Grizzlies didn't have either their two big guys, so they
(40:58):
just dominated them inside. But yeah, Like I think it's
funny these the Warriors and Lakers specifically, you know, trying
to play catch up here and get into the real field.
And we liken this on my show yesterday. It's like
the it's like the severely obese person like John Goodman.
(41:22):
You see John Goodman lost like one hundred pounds or
one hundred fifty pounds. You know, I'm talking like the
famous actor with the with the incredible voice that from
the Big.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Lebowski Roseanne Connors.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, And guys that carry that much weight for too long,
they still had en up. You know, five years later
they still have major health issues like yeah, but you
carry that weight. Or Carmelo Anthony that didn't carry way
too long, didn't take care of his body for a
long time, notoriously like bad eat, hangout guy, whatever, and
then late in his career he wants to take care
(41:55):
of his body. The damage is kind of done right.
Your body's kind of worn down by it. I think
like these teams are all paying nobody paid attention to
the regular season, miss the game here or there, lose
the game here or there, and now all of a sudden,
look at it now, You're just fighting to get in
the play and let alone avoid playing the Nuggets.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
If you make the playoffs, the top half of that
West is going to be crazy though.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, but do you do you know what the thunder
look like in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
No, but I'm just saying that if you had a
Denver Dallas Western Conference semi final, which could be the case,
are the Clippers look out?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah? And what the what the Clippers look like? Do
they get Kuhi back? Come up next? Dan Byer Doug
Gallum in for Dan and the Dan Nets.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
O J.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Simpson died. Do we care? That's next?
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