April 14, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug talks about Rory McIlroy completing his career grand slam and winning the Masters. Doug and Dan Beyer explained why everyone was rooting for Rory Sunday. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the Warriors, Suns and all of the other major headlines around the NBA. Plus, Dan takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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We're we're butting up against the NBA Playoffs, which is awesome.
The play in is set, most of the bracketing is set.
I mean, and I think we're in a kind of
good place right tomorrow night. You got Orlando and Atlanta
in one play in in the East and Golden State
falling to the play and to take on Memphis in
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another play in game in the West. So if you
look at those Western Conference standings and what ended up happening, right,
the Golden State Warriors fell all the way all the
way down to the seventh seed. So now obviously if
you win on Tuesday, then you're in the playoffs. And
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I believe they'll take on what the Rockets, right, and
then you have Lakers who are gonna take on the Timberwolves,
Nuggets take on the Clippers, and the thunder will take
on whoever the last team is in, whether it's the
Mavericks who took them out last year, the Kings, the Grizzlies,
or you know, I guess I don't think it could
be the Warriors here. So Warriors got to win one
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in order to keep playing. Let's get to the story
of the weekend, which is Rory winning the Masters. What's
interesting about it is maybe it's because of the emotion afterwards.
Maybe it's because he generally comes across as a likable fella.
I do feel like people wanted Rory to win, though
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he's not. He hadn't reached like Phill level of popularity generally, like, yeah,
so when he misses a putt on eighteen or when
he you know, hits a hits a wedshot into the
water on thirteen. Looks like he's gonna collapse. When things
go wrong with people we like, we have a tendency
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to go like, oh, that's just bad luck. Whereas if
we don't like him, they're a choker. But the problem
with them being a choker is all right, is he
still a choker if he goes from having a lead
to trailing, then retakes the lead, then gives up the lead,
then he comes from behind with two late birdies, then
he misses an on eighteen, then the second time round
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on eighteen he hits a birdie, Like, is he now clutch?
I'm just struggling with what is clutch and what is
not clutch? And maybe a portion of it is, Uh,
he's more roller coaster up and down. Maybe it's that
we didn't have television covering every shot in every hole,
so we just looked at final scores and we don't
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realize this is how it's always been. Or maybe it's
we're giving him a pass where all of us who
play golf know that that second ball you hit is
always better than the first ball you hit, always, always, always, always,
But for whatever reason, there's different ways to cover different
sorts of struggles and maybe it's because he won. That's
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the pother Hey, at the end of the day, he won.
Had he not won, he would have been a joker.
But he did win, so now he's a champion. But
that was the whole thing. Was amazing to watch, even
even on the playoff hole, the fact that he had
to wait there for like five extra minutes to tee off.
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I'm sitting there thinking, well, the longer you got to
wait there, doesn't that build up the pressure. But then
he just pipes the drive kind of perfectly to nearly
the same spot he did, you know, twenty minutes earlier
on eighteen. We'll hear from all the guys in a second. First,
let's take a listen. This is Ry McElroy talking about
winning the Masters.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It feels incredible. This is my seventeenth time here, and
I started to wonder if it would ever be my time,
and I think, you know, the last ten years, coming
here with the burden of the Grand Slam on my
shoulders and trying to achieve that. I'm sort of wondering
what we're all going to talk about going into the
end of next year's Fasters. But I'm just absolutely honored
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and thrilled. I'm just so proud to be able to
call myself a master shower.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah he should be. It's pretty awesome stuff. You know again,
maybe I'm a sucker for it, but I thought this
the same thing when I don't know if you guys
saw when Darrin Devrees got the job at Indiana, when
just the moment of walking into Indiana as their head
coach kind of struck him. And the same thing for
Rory is he's walking from eighteen to turn in his
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scorecard and you can see him being overcome by emotion,
like I don't know, I dig that stuff. I dig
that stuff. But it is interesting on how today he
is a champion. But we saw him both win it,
give it away, win it again, maybe give it away
and then win it again. It was good TV and
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that four K where they're super in hyper focus and
everybody is not is that was a fantastic watch from
CBS from a visual aspect. We'll get to the verbal
aspect in the second. Dan Byer, you took the weekend
off in order to watch golf.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I had other duties. I wasn't technically off. I was
on in the morning, I was on with you, but
I was just yeah, out of the studio.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The point is that, like this is a it's your
favorite golf tournament, you kind of set your clock to it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's my favorite event period.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Favorite event period. Yes, how would you characterize it?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
An amazing, amazing afternoon of ups and downs. And I
felt that everybody was on Rory's side in this entire battle. Sure,
there may been some people that wanted to see bryceon
breakthrough and other people that may just have never liked
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Rory McElroy so they're not going to cheer for him.
But if you were neutral, you were on Rory's side yesterday.
If you had no interest in were watching, you were
on Rory's side. If you were a passionate golf fan,
I feel that you were on Rory's side yesterday. And
it was four and a half to five hours of
a rollercade to ride, and I thought it was magnificent television.
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It wasn't perfect for Rory, but I think the shots
that Rory then did hit when he needed to were
shots that only a select few maybe in the history
of golf, could hit. And that's what also made it
so compelling.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Okay, what about you there? Iowa was him. I know
you watched yesterday. What'd you think?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I love seeing him win. You know, he had a
very human experience.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
It makes it relatable for most people to watch someone
go up and down and finally grab the championship. I
think it's good for golf that he won. I think
he's recognizable. He's been trying to win a Master's for
a long time. He's recognizable voice, he's a recognizable face
and name. And I think it was really really good
for golf that he won the Masters yesterday. And I
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agree with Dan. I think everybody was rooting for him.
He seems like a nice guy, a good dude, and
to have that product take place on Sunday was really
really good for the Masters. It was definitely one. Remember.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I agree that everybody's rooting for him. I agree that
the narrative is he's a really good guy. Like I
don't buyer. Is he as well liked as we like
to believe that he is?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yes so.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
And I will even say this for as much as
certain players don't have to name certain names that we
think that are universally loved by everyone, or were universally
loved by everyone. There's other stuff behind the scenes that
maybe you're like okay, and vice versa. Guys that maybe
you didn't think were great guys were loved by their peers.
Nobody really has a bad thing to say about Rory,
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except when maybe he was speaking up about live golf.
Some people felt that maybe he's too righteous at times,
but overall, I think he's been a model person and
a model citizen that by and large everybody does love.
Because there are also vulnerabilities there. And I thought it
was interesting because people point out this career Grand Slam deal,
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but every time he would go to Augusta, they would
bring up twenty eleven when he hit the hook on
ten and was by cabins that people didn't even know where.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
On the property at Augusta National.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
So when people yesterday were saying, you've been carrying this
burden since twenty fourteen, because that's when he got his
third leg of the Grand Slam, he said, I actually
have been carrying it since twenty eleven. And so every
time that he went to Augusta National, the demons of
the tenth hole were popping up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
In what happened on that second nine in that.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Afternoon, and he carried those and I think that they
were actually with him popping up at times yesterday. I
don't think it was a coincidence when you saw Rory
shine and when he saw Rory kind of flub up,
because everybody knows that back nine and there are just
times that you know that, okay, you can take advantage
of this, and you got to be be careful of that.
It was almost with the opposite of Rory, Like his
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bugaboo is ted and he goes in Birdie's ten.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So what does he do on eleven?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
His second shot, he almost hits a hook because he's
behind the trees, and it almost goes into the pond.
So then you're like, okay, xhal, you get through eleven
and twelve just with a bogie on eleven and twelve,
you're able to par thirteen should be an easy hole
and easy power form. And what does he do, as
he said, chips it into the water from eighty yards out,
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Like it was such the opposite of everything that you
would think that would go on. And I think that
reveals Rory's vulnerability, and it had been with him for
the last fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, it's you know, I don't think most of us.
I mean, I know, Jay stew you loved watching it,
loved watching and like Jay loves to hate watch lots
of things, he did not he actually truly enjoyed it.
But I don't think Jay, that brought even with you
the close to the history of it. You were just
kind of in the moment enjoying it.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Is that fair first and foremost. I said this all
last week. I always watched Sunday the Masters. I think
that it is the most prestigious event in that sport,
but it's also like top five or top ten, and
what we need to pay attention to. I think sporting
events individual sporting events. And I will take issue with
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what Dan said. Not everybody was rooting for Rory. I
was rooting for the choke. And that's why I always
root for the choke. I think it's better content. I
think it would have been better content for him to
be devastated and to have to answer all the questions again.
I wanted the prolonged agony. That's what I was rooting
for yesterday. So when Justin Rose is making all those
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shots and he's cocky and it's one Birdy after another.
He's a middle aged guy that I was rooting for.
It seems like a good dude. I was rooting for
him to win the playoff. And to answer your question, Doug,
what's the difference between being clutching and choking? I think
being clutch is what Tiger was. Did he ever give
up a lead on a Sunday in a Major when
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he was leading? I don't think so that's clutch. The
other end of the spectrum is a total choke job,
which is what Greg Norman was known for, or Van Dervelt.
And then there's just like degrees of gagging, and he
was gagging the whole day. To put it into like
the perspective of a golfer's mind, I saw this tweet
from Steve Elkinton after the regulation eighteen that could be
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the greatest collapse in golf history, and Bleeping CBS says,
quote unquote, we have a playoff. I think that kind
of speaks to like the moment when he missed on
on that putt on eighteen, there was there was silence
and then he hits the tap in. It's like we
got a playoff, well man, there was a lot of
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context in between that wasn't there Dan.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, I will say this number one. I think that
you come from a radio content perspective that zero point
zero zero zero zero one percent come from, So that
story is I think from that angle. I also think
Elk can be very negative at times with this. But
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if you're gonna knock Rory for the poor shots that
he hit, he was one over par on his round,
you have to give him credit for the shots that
he then did hit. There were I wrote down the number.
I think there were five shots of his life just
on Sunday. There may have been eight in the over
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the weekend. We're talking shots of his life. Of the
shot on fifteen two days in a row, the shot
on seventeen to allow the birdie, the shot on the
playoff hole on eighteen. There were other shots that again
shot of his life. I think Adam Schefter, which when
you know it's something when NFL insiders are tweeting about
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golf and what's going on randomly, and you're thinking you're
going to see a top thirty visit and instead it's
Adam Schefter tweeting shot of his life too. There were
like eight shots of his life over this past weekend.
But what made it so great was he put himself
in the situation where he needed to hit shots of
his life, and I think that is something that is
very relatable, and maybe not the extreme portion of it,
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but to be able to bounce back and come through
in that situation, I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I do I agree with you. The bounce back was incredible.
I guess the question with the bounce back is it's like, yeah,
I mean, so many of us we hit the shot
on thirteen and it begins the toilet bowl effect. And
we've seen it. We've seen it from Rory in the past,
We've seen it from others where I mean, you just
hit something so poorly you can't pull yourself out of it, right,
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And yes.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Can I add context to that too, And it's kind
of what I alluded to earlier. Amen, corner. Thirteen is
the breather. Thirteen is the point where you make hay
or you at least just sail through. And that's what
was so shocking is ten is not an easy hole,
Rory BIRDI is it. Eleven is not an easy hole.
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He almost puts it in the drink on eleven, and
then twelve we know we've seen history, guys putting into
the drink. Freddy Couples won a Master because his ball
stayed up on the bank on twelve. So much history.
Jordan Speith lost his masters on twelve. That's where Eduardo,
excuse me, Francisco Maulinari in Tiger's Year lost his masters
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on twelve. You get through twelve and you think it's okay.
There it is, and I think we all thought that.
So now you go to a par five and Rory
plays it safe and then hits a chip forty five
degrees right or you know, however bad it was. That's
also the context to it of it wasn't just a
choke job on that shot. It was the easiest hole
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on the course where he just navigated arguably the toughest
stretch that he was going to have to navigate on
that Sunday. That's what hat it's so awesome. It's what
made it's so great. Then seventeen comes along where he
double bogie on Thursday and he makes birdie. All right,
all you gotta do is power On eighteen, all you
have is a gap wedge puts it in the bunker,
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doesn't make the putt to win it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
There was so much of that. It was it was awesome,
it was a great day.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It was a good day to go.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yes, and as a golf fan, Jason talking about sharing
for Justin Rose, I felt awful for Justin Rose. By
and large. I know he's fared well in major's lately.
This was his last chance and we saw the graphic
throughout the weekend. Guy who's led the Masters for the
most rounds and never won ten times. He's had the
lead in a round of the Masters twice. Now he's
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lost in a playoff. You can't get much closer than that.
He's middle forties. And even that couldn't sway people to
move off of Rory because of you know what it
would have meant for Justin Rose. That didn't even register.
Everybody wanted Rory.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I you know, it's I got into a discussion with
a couple buddies this weekend and I was talking about how,
of course Sunday at the Masters always have it on,
but when you're watching golf, it's a little bit it
can be a little bit like a novel, right, like
three pages in I'm asleep and the Masters. I usually
I liked tom as soon as it comes on I
like to watch it because I know I'm going to
fall asleep and then wake up and watch the meat
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of it, which is exactly what happened. Exactly what happened.
Something about it made it a real enjoyable watch. Maybe
it was because it there wasn't the tiger like forced
to like pay attention to somebody who wasn't going to
win again. I know that there's been others event other
times tigers not even involved in Sunday at the Masters.
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I'm not sure what it was, but I really really
enjoyed watching watching Sunday. And I also think a portion
of it is because he did go from bad to
good to bad to good. And I love narrative kills sure,
and so if the narrative is he's a choker, well
then why he plays so well the very next hole?
And if he's a study he's got this and it's
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so easy, then you know, you watch, you're like, okay,
but you're always just one shot away from disaster and golf,
even the t shot in eighteen you're like, yeah, it
doesn't matter, right then, is it? Then you know, then
he hits one in the sand, You're like, oh, oh,
that's that's big. And then the last part is I
just I love and hate the fact that it's just
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so hard to translate how difficult or easy a putt is.
It just is like you're sitting there going like, I
can't tell is that close? Is that far? Is that easy?
Is that hard? Yeah? That that part is interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I The the other point that I think is interesting
is we all went into Sunday thinking one thing. I'm
not saying our expectations were the same, but in no
way did we think it was going to play out
like this. And I think maybe you get this in
a good TV show or in a series. We all
thought it was going to be Rory against Bryce and
Bryce versus Rory Live versus PGA Tour, PGA Tour versus Live,
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and maybe by nine holes that was over, and then
it's the coronation, and then it's not the coronation, And
at one point you have Ludwig Oberg, Justin Rose and
Rory sitting there at ten under par on like it
was completely different from what we expected, but then even
surpassed our expectations. I feel sometimes like with a TV show,
you think you know how it's gonna play out, and
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then it doesn't, but it's even better than what you expected.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And I felt like that was Sunday at the Masters.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It was a little bit like a twenty was it
twenty twenty? You know when you watch us on Friday
Night where all of a sudden there's some suspect that
comes out of the blue. We're like, lud big Ben Oberg,
what the hell?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Why is he?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
The gardener had no, You're like screaming the TV. The
gardener had nothing to do with it. And then it
circles back to the to the main carriacters like, oh, yeah,
it was it was the ex husband after all, it
was Rory, after all. The little big bit over that
one was wait, who trying to explain to somebody who
he is? And then you're like, okay, let's not even
pay attention to him. Justin Rose is who we need
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to pay attention to. And then Justin Rose is out there,
and you know, when Rory's on eighteen, he's out there
taking practice strokes, and you know, half the dude's watching.
You're sitting there going like, yeah, he's out there, like
just for show. He doesn't really need to be lose.
This thing's Rory's or whatever. I'm like, I don't know,
It's not that easy, and then all of a sudden
they got to wrangle him off the practice tea to
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come and play eighteen again. Play eighteen again.
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Let's welcome in Rick Buker. Of course, he covers all
things sports for Fox Sports One. But of course he
also writes and has covered the NBA for over twenty
five years. So let's start with the with the Golden
State Warriors. They they they don't play Kaminga in that
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last game, okay, but they did play Stephen dre and again, look,
it ends up to them falling back into the playing game.
What are your thoughts on the criticism of what Steve
kirchos to do that last game of the season.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
I completely understand why he did it, and my feeling
is that if the star players don't make some of
the egregious mistakes that they made, that Jonathan Kaminga not
playing is a non story and that no one's pointing
to it. They're they're looking at the fact that he
went with his veterans and and with a system that
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has been effective over the last few weeks, and and
it ultimately worked. You know, the shortcoming wasn't that Jonathan
Kaminga didn't play, or that Kevon Looney got his minutes,
because Looney was active in the minutes that he played.
Quinton Posts really didn't get a whole lot of run.
He had a very tight rotation. So for me, it's
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he put on the floor the role players that allow
the stars Draymond, Jimmy and Dre to shine and do
their job, and they simply didn't to the level necessary
with with this group Steph Curry with eight turnovers, you
simply can't have that happen. Their margin of error with
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this particular Warriors team is not big enough against a
Clippers team that matches up with them so well, you
simply don't. You know, they don't have that margin of
error in general, but they certainly wouldn't didn't have it
against the team that presents as many problems for them
as the Clippers do.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Stuck Gotleib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's
let's continue. The Lakers people are celebrating that they take
on the Timberwolves here in the first round.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Now, I thought Anthony Edwards is the next Michael Jordan
last year this time. Granted they've changed out some personnel
up front, but why suddenly the one ad on who
the Timberwolves are.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Yeah, it's interesting. I didn't know that Karl Anthony Towns
carried that carried that much weight. And I believe a
big part of it is because the Timberwolves. Timberwolves weren't
very good for the better part of this year, and
that Anthony Edwards was focused on let me show you
that I can shoot the three, whether it was necessary,
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And I often feel as if in a lot of situations,
tim shooting the three is the best thing that he
can possibly do for the opposition, no matter what presentage
that that that he is shooting. And But but haven't
paid attention to what they have done over the last
three four weeks and what they're still capable of doing
defensively and from at least a physical standpoint, I like, defensively,
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how they can match up. There aren't a whole lot
of teams that have the bodies the requisite bodies and
defensive players who can also be a threat at the
other end that match up with the Lakers. Between Austin,
Austin Reeves and Luka, Doncis and Lebron James, you have
to have fairly unique defenders. You need some you need
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some size, but you still need some agility. Well with
no Osried and Julis Randalls, they have that. They can
they can they can they can contend as defenders against
Luca and Lebron as much as anybody can. And Jade McDaniels,
if you end up putting him on Austin Reeves, maybe
maybe you switch those around. But I like I like
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their ability to match up and defensively they can be challenging.
And then you got the you know, the are the
bear elements where you know Luca likes to to get inside.
If you can make the Lakers really rely on and
Luca and Lebron and Austin to rely and make them
a three point shooting team, particularly those guys shooting threes,
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I think it plays in the in the big picture,
it plays in your favor because when they're at their
their most dangerous is when Luca is getting into the
paint and getting the defense to collapse, and now you're
getting wide open threes for everybody. When Lebron has to
shoot a contested three, it's not nearly as good as
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wide open. And I would say the thing goes for
Jared Vanderbilt and Dorian Finney Smith. So I think the
Timberwolves have has the requisite pieces and experience, uh, to
make this an interesting series, far more interesting series than
I think a lot of people are are are giving
it credit simply because it's not it's not the Warriors,
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it's not one of the the the other teams that
we thought they might be matched up with the Clippers
being another that would make it far more interesting. I
think that I think everybody kind of fell off with
with Minnesota and the way they started the season, and
I wasn't as big on them last year as most people,
But I'm also not I don't think it's the four
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gun conclusion that the Lakers just walk away with this
this series and make it a short one.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, that's
the that's the voice of of Rick Buker. Of course,
Rick Buker covers the NBA for Fox Sports and Fox
Sports one. He joins this year on the DG Show.
Mark Mike Budenholds are fired at the end of the
season for the Suns, the second straight year they've had
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a one and done, one and done coach. I had
I thought that it was a bad idea to hire
Bud because he had gotten a reputation of being really
difficult to deal with. Right, But another one and done coach?
What does uh? What does Phoenix do? Now?
Speaker 8 (27:10):
It's a great question because they're they're I don't know
that there's a coach that solved their problem with this roster.
It's a roster made to kill coaches because it's got
a lot of big names, got a lot of individual talent,
but it doesn't have any leadership on the floor, and
it doesn't really have a whole lot of connective tissue.
(27:31):
You know, Bradley Beal, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker. If you're
building a fantasy league team, that might work, But if
you actually have to go on the floor and play
basketball five the five, it's a completely different story. Uh.
And then you just you don't have enough of the
ancillary pieces to do all of the dirty work that
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those three players are not going to do at this
stage of their careers. So I don't know where you
go with a coach. The problem is the roster. And
until you address the roster and I and for me
make some severe mood like moving KD. I don't even
know if you can move Bradley deal. But most everybody
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is like Kevin Durant is going to get moved and
he's going to go somewhere. I'm like, okay, fine, what
are you going to bring you back? At this stage?
Is not enough to transform this team if you really
are serious about building the Phoenix Suns into a title
contending team, as much as they don't want to do it,
(28:35):
as much as he's the face of the franchise, as
much as I hold nothing against Devin Booker, Devin Booker
is the guy that you could set, you could trade
and potentially get pieces back where you can remake yourself.
Other than that, you're just continuing to patch a ship
that is not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, yeah, you got to start over there, Yeah, right there.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
You have to start with the roster. It's like there's
no magic pill to be taken here. With a coach
that you're going to hire, that's somehow going to figure
out the formula. That's not that, it's that the pieces
don't ship.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, not even not even close to fitting. Rick Berger
joined us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. How dangerous are the Clippers heading in the playoffs?
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Dangerous to the Denver Nuggets, and that I believe that
the coaching change needed to be made, and I believe
that they're a better team now, and they're a better
team than they've shown for the better part of this season.
Do I think they're at their championship level. I'm not
convinced of that, in spite of Nikola Jokics being better
(29:52):
than ever. Uh, they are. They are dangerous, and that
they have all the elements that you want in a
title contending, formidable teams playoff teams. They have defense, they
have experience, and they have go to scorers that are
that are that are handful one on one and James
Harden and Kawhi Leonard. The problem is that they also
(30:17):
just do a lot of dumb stuff, and they do
dumb stuff at critical points of the game, and they've
consistently done that this year. Uh, and and dumb stuff
in the postseason at critical times will lose you gains
and lose your series. And so when I look for
(30:38):
like the intangibles with this team, the communication, the leadership,
that's where they're that's where they're they're they're missing and
or that's what they're missing, and those are vital ingredients
for anybody who's going to make a deep playoff run.
So I like what they have. There's as good as
they've been, largely because Kawhi is healthy. Guy has done
(30:59):
a nice job of, you know, getting the most I
think out of this team and getting the most out
of James Harden. But they're still like conversely compared to
say the Lakers, like they're still they're all ISO players offensively,
so you just kind of kind of hope you find
the right matchup. But they're not going to make each
(31:20):
other better. They don't have a playmaker in the form
of a Luka Dacic or even a Lebron James and
and that's why if you can match up and quiet
their ISOs, then you have a chance of beating them.
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Speaker 7 (32:33):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Dan Byer, what's the game today, my friend, Doug?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
The game today is all right? Big deal, little deal
or no deal.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
That Rory McElroy didn't talk to Bryson de Shamba at
all during the final pairing yesterday.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Feels like a big deal. It feels like a big deal.
Obviously they don't like each other at all, and I
liked a little bit of that tension, but it did
feel like a big, big deal because that's not the
way in which golf usually is. I think on that
final group I don't know this is I think it's
Do you think it's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I don't think it's a huge deal, but I think
of who they are the reason that they are, so
I would say little deal, but because of who they are,
maybe makes it a bigger deal.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
But remember that I think it was.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
The HBO documentary on Tiger, Tony Fenow anyway told the
story of he played with Tiger in twenty nineteen in
that final grouping and said he tried to talk to
Tiger on the seventh toll because they hadn't said anything
in the first six holes, and Tony asked Tiger if
how the kids were trying to make small talk, and
(33:51):
Tiger just said they're fine and kept walking. And Feno
knew at that point that there was gonna be no
talking that day. So when Tiger Woods was locked in,
and you're locked in, so we're gonna give Tiger that
same grace. I think we have to give it to
Rory as well for what he needed to do to
get it done.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
One big deal, a little deal of nod deal that
the Suns fired their head coach again. It's gonna be
the third offseason they're looking for a new head coach.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I don't think it's a big deal, only in that
it kind of had to happen, also kind of predicted
what has happened, Like Bud does not have a good
reputation around the league as being easy to deal with.
And that's a team full of guys that it's so
you know, every guy is so different than the next.
(34:35):
You know, they probably should have hired Kevin Young two
years ago because he was close with Devin Booker. They didn't.
Kevin Young's now in college and you know they're buying
up a buying up a team for him. But they
kept him on staff for a year with Frank last
year and that that partnership didn't work. This one doesn't work.
I just I think you gotta blow that thing up
(34:57):
and start over.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Big deal, a little deal of no deal that David
Griffin didn't make it work in New Orleans is their
executive VP.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I think it's a big deal just because if he
can't make it work with with Zion, who can, right?
Who really can?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
So pretty big deal.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I think it's more of the indictment on Zion and
where they've gone than maybe David Griffin.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, I really think it's an indictment on I agree
with you, indictment on Zion because if Zion is anywhere
near what people think he could be, then David Griffin
is still gamefully employed, but Zion's off the court, on
the court, offt injured, the inability to find anybody who
can get through to him. Plus you gave a new contract. Yeah,
(35:48):
that's what gets you fired.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Big deal, little deal or no deal that Tennessee had
Coach Josh Hipel still hasn't spoken with former Vass quarterback
Nico Iamaliavas since he skipped out on practice last week.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Umm, I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
One.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
You should have a working you know, I have guys
in the portal that I talk to every day. But again,
I also think that Josh Hypel is just like, this
is complete bull crap. We had a deal, you'd agreed
to it. Then all of a sudden you do a
sit in because you find out, you hear other people
are getting more money, Like, that's not how we do business.
So I don't blame him, but you should be cutting
(36:31):
through the noise of the outside and having a personal
relationship with your guy.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Doug, that Bill Belichick's girlfriend seems to have a significant
role within the North Carolina football program.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
You've seen that video from this weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yes, she's in.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
The end zone. She's out there as well talking to him. Yes,
but a big deal, A little dealer, no deal, big deal.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Uncomfortable. What are we doing? You know, for a guy
who doesn't like distractions, he's quickly dating one. And that's
game time. Coming up with The Doug Gottlieb Show live
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We're we're butting up against the NBA Playoffs, which is awesome.
The play in is set, most of the bracketing is set.
I mean, and I think we're in a kind of
good place right tomorrow night. You got Orlando and Atlanta
in one play in in the East and Golden State
falling to the play and to take on Memphis in
(01:13):
another play in game in the West. So if you
look at those Western Conference standings and what ended up happening, right,
the Golden State Warriors fell all the way all the
way down to the seventh seed. So now obviously if
you win on Tuesday, then you're in the playoffs. And
(01:35):
I believe they'll take on what the Rockets, right, and
then you have Lakers who are gonna take on the Timberwolves,
Nuggets take on the Clippers, and the thunder will take
on whoever the last team is in, whether it's the
Mavericks who took them out last year, the Kings, the Grizzlies,
or you know, I guess I don't think it could
be the Warriors here. So Warriors got to win one
(01:55):
in order to keep playing. Let's get to the story
of the weekend, which is Rory winning the Masters. What's
interesting about it is maybe it's because of the emotion afterwards.
Maybe it's because he generally comes across as a likable fella.
I do feel like people wanted Rory to win, though
(02:18):
he's not. He hadn't reached like Phill level of popularity generally, like, yeah,
so when he misses a putt on eighteen or when
he you know, hits a hits a wedshot into the
water on thirteen. Looks like he's gonna collapse. When things
go wrong with people we like, we have a tendency
(02:40):
to go like, oh, that's just bad luck. Whereas if
we don't like him, they're a choker. But the problem
with them being a choker is all right, is he
still a choker if he goes from having a lead
to trailing, then retakes the lead, then gives up the lead,
then he comes from behind with two late birdies, then
he misses an on eighteen, then the second time round
(03:04):
on eighteen he hits a birdie, Like, is he now clutch?
I'm just struggling with what is clutch and what is
not clutch? And maybe a portion of it is, Uh,
he's more roller coaster up and down. Maybe it's that
we didn't have television covering every shot in every hole,
so we just looked at final scores and we don't
(03:24):
realize this is how it's always been. Or maybe it's
we're giving him a pass where all of us who
play golf know that that second ball you hit is
always better than the first ball you hit, always, always, always, always,
But for whatever reason, there's different ways to cover different
sorts of struggles and maybe it's because he won. That's
(03:45):
the pother Hey, at the end of the day, he won.
Had he not won, he would have been a joker.
But he did win, so now he's a champion. But
that was the whole thing. Was amazing to watch, even
even on the playoff hole, the fact that he had
to wait there for like five extra minutes to tee off.
(04:08):
I'm sitting there thinking, well, the longer you got to
wait there, doesn't that build up the pressure. But then
he just pipes the drive kind of perfectly to nearly
the same spot he did, you know, twenty minutes earlier
on eighteen. We'll hear from all the guys in a second. First,
let's take a listen. This is Ry McElroy talking about
winning the Masters.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It feels incredible. This is my seventeenth time here, and
I started to wonder if it would ever be my time,
and I think, you know, the last ten years, coming
here with the burden of the Grand Slam on my
shoulders and trying to achieve that. I'm sort of wondering
what we're all going to talk about going into the
end of next year's Fasters. But I'm just absolutely honored
(04:48):
and thrilled. I'm just so proud to be able to
call myself a master shower.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah he should be. It's pretty awesome stuff. You know again,
maybe I'm a sucker for it, but I thought this
the same thing when I don't know if you guys
saw when Darrin Devrees got the job at Indiana, when
just the moment of walking into Indiana as their head
coach kind of struck him. And the same thing for
Rory is he's walking from eighteen to turn in his
(05:13):
scorecard and you can see him being overcome by emotion,
like I don't know, I dig that stuff. I dig
that stuff. But it is interesting on how today he
is a champion. But we saw him both win it,
give it away, win it again, maybe give it away
and then win it again. It was good TV and
(05:40):
that four K where they're super in hyper focus and
everybody is not is that was a fantastic watch from
CBS from a visual aspect. We'll get to the verbal
aspect in the second. Dan Byer, you took the weekend
off in order to watch golf.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I had other duties. I wasn't technically off. I was
on in the morning, I was on with you, but
I was just yeah, out of the studio.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The point is that, like this is a it's your
favorite golf tournament, you kind of set your clock to it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's my favorite event period.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Favorite event period. Yes, how would you characterize it?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
An amazing, amazing afternoon of ups and downs. And I
felt that everybody was on Rory's side in this entire battle. Sure,
there may been some people that wanted to see bryceon
breakthrough and other people that may just have never liked
(06:40):
Rory McElroy so they're not going to cheer for him.
But if you were neutral, you were on Rory's side yesterday.
If you had no interest in were watching, you were
on Rory's side. If you were a passionate golf fan,
I feel that you were on Rory's side yesterday. And
it was four and a half to five hours of
a rollercade to ride, and I thought it was magnificent television.
(07:04):
It wasn't perfect for Rory, but I think the shots
that Rory then did hit when he needed to were
shots that only a select few maybe in the history
of golf, could hit. And that's what also made it
so compelling.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Okay, what about you there? Iowa was him. I know
you watched yesterday. What'd you think?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I love seeing him win. You know, he had a
very human experience.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think a lot.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
It makes it relatable for most people to watch someone
go up and down and finally grab the championship. I
think it's good for golf that he won. I think
he's recognizable. He's been trying to win a Master's for
a long time. He's recognizable voice, he's a recognizable face
and name. And I think it was really really good
for golf that he won the Masters yesterday. And I
(07:53):
agree with Dan. I think everybody was rooting for him.
He seems like a nice guy, a good dude, and
to have that product take place on Sunday was really
really good for the Masters. It was definitely one. Remember.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I agree that everybody's rooting for him. I agree that
the narrative is he's a really good guy. Like I
don't buyer. Is he as well liked as we like
to believe that he is?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yes so.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
And I will even say this for as much as
certain players don't have to name certain names that we
think that are universally loved by everyone, or were universally
loved by everyone. There's other stuff behind the scenes that
maybe you're like okay, and vice versa. Guys that maybe
you didn't think were great guys were loved by their peers.
Nobody really has a bad thing to say about Rory,
(08:45):
except when maybe he was speaking up about live golf.
Some people felt that maybe he's too righteous at times,
but overall, I think he's been a model person and
a model citizen that by and large everybody does love.
Because there are also vulnerabilities there. And I thought it
was interesting because people point out this career Grand Slam deal,
(09:09):
but every time he would go to Augusta, they would
bring up twenty eleven when he hit the hook on
ten and was by cabins that people didn't even know where.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
On the property at Augusta National.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
So when people yesterday were saying, you've been carrying this
burden since twenty fourteen, because that's when he got his
third leg of the Grand Slam, he said, I actually
have been carrying it since twenty eleven. And so every
time that he went to Augusta National, the demons of
the tenth hole were popping up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
In what happened on that second nine in that.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Afternoon, and he carried those and I think that they
were actually with him popping up at times yesterday. I
don't think it was a coincidence when you saw Rory
shine and when he saw Rory kind of flub up,
because everybody knows that back nine and there are just
times that you know that, okay, you can take advantage
of this, and you got to be be careful of that.
It was almost with the opposite of Rory, Like his
(09:59):
bugaboo is ted and he goes in Birdie's ten.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So what does he do on eleven?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
His second shot, he almost hits a hook because he's
behind the trees, and it almost goes into the pond.
So then you're like, okay, xhal, you get through eleven
and twelve just with a bogie on eleven and twelve,
you're able to par thirteen should be an easy hole
and easy power form. And what does he do, as
he said, chips it into the water from eighty yards out,
(10:23):
Like it was such the opposite of everything that you
would think that would go on. And I think that
reveals Rory's vulnerability, and it had been with him for
the last fourteen years.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, it's you know, I don't think most of us.
I mean, I know, Jay stew you loved watching it,
loved watching and like Jay loves to hate watch lots
of things, he did not he actually truly enjoyed it.
But I don't think Jay, that brought even with you
the close to the history of it. You were just
kind of in the moment enjoying it.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Is that fair first and foremost. I said this all
last week. I always watched Sunday the Masters. I think
that it is the most prestigious event in that sport,
but it's also like top five or top ten, and
what we need to pay attention to. I think sporting
events individual sporting events. And I will take issue with
(11:17):
what Dan said. Not everybody was rooting for Rory. I
was rooting for the choke. And that's why I always
root for the choke. I think it's better content. I
think it would have been better content for him to
be devastated and to have to answer all the questions again.
I wanted the prolonged agony. That's what I was rooting
for yesterday. So when Justin Rose is making all those
(11:39):
shots and he's cocky and it's one Birdy after another.
He's a middle aged guy that I was rooting for.
It seems like a good dude. I was rooting for
him to win the playoff. And to answer your question, Doug,
what's the difference between being clutching and choking? I think
being clutch is what Tiger was. Did he ever give
up a lead on a Sunday in a Major when
(12:00):
he was leading? I don't think so that's clutch. The
other end of the spectrum is a total choke job,
which is what Greg Norman was known for, or Van Dervelt.
And then there's just like degrees of gagging, and he
was gagging the whole day. To put it into like
the perspective of a golfer's mind, I saw this tweet
from Steve Elkinton after the regulation eighteen that could be
(12:24):
the greatest collapse in golf history, and Bleeping CBS says,
quote unquote, we have a playoff. I think that kind
of speaks to like the moment when he missed on
on that putt on eighteen, there was there was silence
and then he hits the tap in. It's like we
got a playoff, well man, there was a lot of
(12:46):
context in between that wasn't there Dan.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, I will say this number one. I think that
you come from a radio content perspective that zero point
zero zero zero zero one percent come from, So that
story is I think from that angle. I also think
Elk can be very negative at times with this. But
(13:11):
if you're gonna knock Rory for the poor shots that
he hit, he was one over par on his round,
you have to give him credit for the shots that
he then did hit. There were I wrote down the number.
I think there were five shots of his life just
on Sunday. There may have been eight in the over
(13:33):
the weekend. We're talking shots of his life. Of the
shot on fifteen two days in a row, the shot
on seventeen to allow the birdie, the shot on the
playoff hole on eighteen. There were other shots that again
shot of his life. I think Adam Schefter, which when
you know it's something when NFL insiders are tweeting about
(13:53):
golf and what's going on randomly, and you're thinking you're
going to see a top thirty visit and instead it's
Adam Schefter tweeting shot of his life too. There were
like eight shots of his life over this past weekend.
But what made it so great was he put himself
in the situation where he needed to hit shots of
his life, and I think that is something that is
very relatable, and maybe not the extreme portion of it,
(14:17):
but to be able to bounce back and come through
in that situation, I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I do I agree with you. The bounce back was incredible.
I guess the question with the bounce back is it's like, yeah,
I mean, so many of us we hit the shot
on thirteen and it begins the toilet bowl effect. And
we've seen it. We've seen it from Rory in the past,
We've seen it from others where I mean, you just
hit something so poorly you can't pull yourself out of it, right,
(14:48):
And yes.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Can I add context to that too, And it's kind
of what I alluded to earlier. Amen, corner. Thirteen is
the breather. Thirteen is the point where you make hay
or you at least just sail through. And that's what
was so shocking is ten is not an easy hole,
Rory BIRDI is it. Eleven is not an easy hole.
(15:10):
He almost puts it in the drink on eleven, and
then twelve we know we've seen history, guys putting into
the drink. Freddy Couples won a Master because his ball
stayed up on the bank on twelve. So much history.
Jordan Speith lost his masters on twelve. That's where Eduardo,
excuse me, Francisco Maulinari in Tiger's Year lost his masters
(15:30):
on twelve. You get through twelve and you think it's okay.
There it is, and I think we all thought that.
So now you go to a par five and Rory
plays it safe and then hits a chip forty five
degrees right or you know, however bad it was. That's
also the context to it of it wasn't just a
choke job on that shot. It was the easiest hole
(15:52):
on the course where he just navigated arguably the toughest
stretch that he was going to have to navigate on
that Sunday. That's what hat it's so awesome. It's what
made it's so great. Then seventeen comes along where he
double bogie on Thursday and he makes birdie. All right,
all you gotta do is power On eighteen, all you
have is a gap wedge puts it in the bunker,
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doesn't make the putt to win it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
There was so much of that. It was it was awesome,
it was a great day.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It was a good day to go.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yes, and as a golf fan, Jason talking about sharing
for Justin Rose, I felt awful for Justin Rose. By
and large. I know he's fared well in major's lately.
This was his last chance and we saw the graphic
throughout the weekend. Guy who's led the Masters for the
most rounds and never won ten times. He's had the
lead in a round of the Masters twice. Now he's
(16:43):
lost in a playoff. You can't get much closer than that.
He's middle forties. And even that couldn't sway people to
move off of Rory because of you know what it
would have meant for Justin Rose. That didn't even register.
Everybody wanted Rory.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I you know, it's I got into a discussion with
a couple buddies this weekend and I was talking about how,
of course Sunday at the Masters always have it on,
but when you're watching golf, it's a little bit it
can be a little bit like a novel, right, like
three pages in I'm asleep and the Masters. I usually
I liked tom as soon as it comes on I
like to watch it because I know I'm going to
fall asleep and then wake up and watch the meat
(17:21):
of it, which is exactly what happened. Exactly what happened.
Something about it made it a real enjoyable watch. Maybe
it was because it there wasn't the tiger like forced
to like pay attention to somebody who wasn't going to
win again. I know that there's been others event other
times tigers not even involved in Sunday at the Masters.
(17:43):
I'm not sure what it was, but I really really
enjoyed watching watching Sunday. And I also think a portion
of it is because he did go from bad to
good to bad to good. And I love narrative kills sure,
and so if the narrative is he's a choker, well
then why he plays so well the very next hole?
And if he's a study he's got this and it's
(18:05):
so easy, then you know, you watch, you're like, okay,
but you're always just one shot away from disaster and golf,
even the t shot in eighteen you're like, yeah, it
doesn't matter, right then, is it? Then you know, then
he hits one in the sand, You're like, oh, oh,
that's that's big. And then the last part is I
just I love and hate the fact that it's just
(18:26):
so hard to translate how difficult or easy a putt is.
It just is like you're sitting there going like, I
can't tell is that close? Is that far? Is that easy?
Is that hard? Yeah? That that part is interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I The the other point that I think is interesting
is we all went into Sunday thinking one thing. I'm
not saying our expectations were the same, but in no
way did we think it was going to play out
like this. And I think maybe you get this in
a good TV show or in a series. We all
thought it was going to be Rory against Bryce and
Bryce versus Rory Live versus PGA Tour, PGA Tour versus Live,
(19:05):
and maybe by nine holes that was over, and then
it's the coronation, and then it's not the coronation, And
at one point you have Ludwig Oberg, Justin Rose and
Rory sitting there at ten under par on like it
was completely different from what we expected, but then even
surpassed our expectations. I feel sometimes like with a TV show,
you think you know how it's gonna play out, and
(19:27):
then it doesn't, but it's even better than what you expected.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And I felt like that was Sunday at the Masters.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It was a little bit like a twenty was it
twenty twenty? You know when you watch us on Friday
Night where all of a sudden there's some suspect that
comes out of the blue. We're like, lud big Ben Oberg,
what the hell?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Why is he?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
The gardener had no, You're like screaming the TV. The
gardener had nothing to do with it. And then it
circles back to the to the main carriacters like, oh, yeah,
it was it was the ex husband after all, it
was Rory, after all. The little big bit over that
one was wait, who trying to explain to somebody who
he is? And then you're like, okay, let's not even
pay attention to him. Justin Rose is who we need
(20:06):
to pay attention to. And then Justin Rose is out there,
and you know, when Rory's on eighteen, he's out there
taking practice strokes, and you know, half the dude's watching.
You're sitting there going like, yeah, he's out there, like
just for show. He doesn't really need to be lose.
This thing's Rory's or whatever. I'm like, I don't know,
It's not that easy, and then all of a sudden
they got to wrangle him off the practice tea to
(20:27):
come and play eighteen again. Play eighteen again.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
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Speaker 1 (20:40):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's welcome in Rick Buker. Of course, he covers all
things sports for Fox Sports One. But of course he
also writes and has covered the NBA for over twenty
five years. So let's start with the with the Golden
State Warriors. They they they don't play Kaminga in that
(21:06):
last game, okay, but they did play Stephen dre and again, look,
it ends up to them falling back into the playing game.
What are your thoughts on the criticism of what Steve
kirchos to do that last game of the season.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
I completely understand why he did it, and my feeling
is that if the star players don't make some of
the egregious mistakes that they made, that Jonathan Kaminga not
playing is a non story and that no one's pointing
to it. They're they're looking at the fact that he
went with his veterans and and with a system that
(21:45):
has been effective over the last few weeks, and and
it ultimately worked. You know, the shortcoming wasn't that Jonathan
Kaminga didn't play, or that Kevon Looney got his minutes,
because Looney was active in the minutes that he played.
Quinton Posts really didn't get a whole lot of run.
He had a very tight rotation. So for me, it's
(22:12):
he put on the floor the role players that allow
the stars Draymond, Jimmy and Dre to shine and do
their job, and they simply didn't to the level necessary
with with this group Steph Curry with eight turnovers, you
simply can't have that happen. Their margin of error with
(22:32):
this particular Warriors team is not big enough against a
Clippers team that matches up with them so well, you
simply don't. You know, they don't have that margin of
error in general, but they certainly wouldn't didn't have it
against the team that presents as many problems for them
as the Clippers do.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Stuck Gotleib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's
let's continue. The Lakers people are celebrating that they take
on the Timberwolves here in the first round.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Now, I thought Anthony Edwards is the next Michael Jordan
last year this time. Granted they've changed out some personnel
up front, but why suddenly the one ad on who
the Timberwolves are.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Yeah, it's interesting. I didn't know that Karl Anthony Towns
carried that carried that much weight. And I believe a
big part of it is because the Timberwolves. Timberwolves weren't
very good for the better part of this year, and
that Anthony Edwards was focused on let me show you
that I can shoot the three, whether it was necessary,
(23:43):
And I often feel as if in a lot of situations,
tim shooting the three is the best thing that he
can possibly do for the opposition, no matter what presentage
that that that he is shooting. And But but haven't
paid attention to what they have done over the last
three four weeks and what they're still capable of doing
defensively and from at least a physical standpoint, I like, defensively,
(24:09):
how they can match up. There aren't a whole lot
of teams that have the bodies the requisite bodies and
defensive players who can also be a threat at the
other end that match up with the Lakers. Between Austin,
Austin Reeves and Luka, Doncis and Lebron James, you have
to have fairly unique defenders. You need some you need
(24:32):
some size, but you still need some agility. Well with
no Osried and Julis Randalls, they have that. They can
they can they can they can contend as defenders against
Luca and Lebron as much as anybody can. And Jade McDaniels,
if you end up putting him on Austin Reeves, maybe
maybe you switch those around. But I like I like
(24:54):
their ability to match up and defensively they can be challenging.
And then you got the you know, the are the
bear elements where you know Luca likes to to get inside.
If you can make the Lakers really rely on and
Luca and Lebron and Austin to rely and make them
a three point shooting team, particularly those guys shooting threes,
(25:18):
I think it plays in the in the big picture,
it plays in your favor because when they're at their
their most dangerous is when Luca is getting into the
paint and getting the defense to collapse, and now you're
getting wide open threes for everybody. When Lebron has to
shoot a contested three, it's not nearly as good as
(25:41):
wide open. And I would say the thing goes for
Jared Vanderbilt and Dorian Finney Smith. So I think the
Timberwolves have has the requisite pieces and experience, uh, to
make this an interesting series, far more interesting series than
I think a lot of people are are are giving
it credit simply because it's not it's not the Warriors,
(26:02):
it's not one of the the the other teams that
we thought they might be matched up with the Clippers
being another that would make it far more interesting. I
think that I think everybody kind of fell off with
with Minnesota and the way they started the season, and
I wasn't as big on them last year as most people,
But I'm also not I don't think it's the four
(26:23):
gun conclusion that the Lakers just walk away with this
this series and make it a short one.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, that's
the that's the voice of of Rick Buker. Of course,
Rick Buker covers the NBA for Fox Sports and Fox
Sports one. He joins this year on the DG Show.
Mark Mike Budenholds are fired at the end of the
season for the Suns, the second straight year they've had
(26:49):
a one and done, one and done coach. I had
I thought that it was a bad idea to hire
Bud because he had gotten a reputation of being really
difficult to deal with. Right, But another one and done coach?
What does uh? What does Phoenix do? Now?
Speaker 8 (27:10):
It's a great question because they're they're I don't know
that there's a coach that solved their problem with this roster.
It's a roster made to kill coaches because it's got
a lot of big names, got a lot of individual talent,
but it doesn't have any leadership on the floor, and
it doesn't really have a whole lot of connective tissue.
(27:31):
You know, Bradley Beal, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker. If you're
building a fantasy league team, that might work, But if
you actually have to go on the floor and play
basketball five the five, it's a completely different story. Uh.
And then you just you don't have enough of the
ancillary pieces to do all of the dirty work that
(27:53):
those three players are not going to do at this
stage of their careers. So I don't know where you
go with a coach. The problem is the roster. And
until you address the roster and I and for me
make some severe mood like moving KD. I don't even
know if you can move Bradley deal. But most everybody
(28:14):
is like Kevin Durant is going to get moved and
he's going to go somewhere. I'm like, okay, fine, what
are you going to bring you back? At this stage?
Is not enough to transform this team if you really
are serious about building the Phoenix Suns into a title
contending team, as much as they don't want to do it,
(28:35):
as much as he's the face of the franchise, as
much as I hold nothing against Devin Booker, Devin Booker
is the guy that you could set, you could trade
and potentially get pieces back where you can remake yourself.
Other than that, you're just continuing to patch a ship
that is not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, yeah, you got to start over there, Yeah, right there.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
You have to start with the roster. It's like there's
no magic pill to be taken here. With a coach
that you're going to hire, that's somehow going to figure
out the formula. That's not that, it's that the pieces
don't ship.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
No, not even not even close to fitting. Rick Berger
joined us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. How dangerous are the Clippers heading in the playoffs?
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Dangerous to the Denver Nuggets, and that I believe that
the coaching change needed to be made, and I believe
that they're a better team now, and they're a better
team than they've shown for the better part of this season.
Do I think they're at their championship level. I'm not
convinced of that, in spite of Nikola Jokics being better
(29:52):
than ever. Uh, they are. They are dangerous, and that
they have all the elements that you want in a
title contending, formidable teams playoff teams. They have defense, they
have experience, and they have go to scorers that are
that are that are handful one on one and James
Harden and Kawhi Leonard. The problem is that they also
(30:17):
just do a lot of dumb stuff, and they do
dumb stuff at critical points of the game, and they've
consistently done that this year. Uh, and and dumb stuff
in the postseason at critical times will lose you gains
and lose your series. And so when I look for
(30:38):
like the intangibles with this team, the communication, the leadership,
that's where they're that's where they're they're they're missing and
or that's what they're missing, and those are vital ingredients
for anybody who's going to make a deep playoff run.
So I like what they have. There's as good as
they've been, largely because Kawhi is healthy. Guy has done
(30:59):
a nice job of, you know, getting the most I
think out of this team and getting the most out
of James Harden. But they're still like conversely compared to
say the Lakers, like they're still they're all ISO players offensively,
so you just kind of kind of hope you find
the right matchup. But they're not going to make each
(31:20):
other better. They don't have a playmaker in the form
of a Luka Dacic or even a Lebron James and
and that's why if you can match up and quiet
their ISOs, then you have a chance of beating them.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's the voice of one Rick Buker. We're getting ready
for the playing tournament into the NBA playoffs, and he's
the guy. We're going to turn two every week. Buki
the best Man. Thanks for joining us. You got it,
Doug Rick Buker joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
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Speaker 7 (32:33):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Dan Byer, what's the game today, my friend, Doug?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
The game today is all right? Big deal, little deal
or no deal.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
That Rory McElroy didn't talk to Bryson de Shamba at
all during the final pairing yesterday.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Feels like a big deal. It feels like a big deal.
Obviously they don't like each other at all, and I
liked a little bit of that tension, but it did
feel like a big, big deal because that's not the
way in which golf usually is. I think on that
final group I don't know this is I think it's
Do you think it's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I don't think it's a huge deal, but I think
of who they are the reason that they are, so
I would say little deal, but because of who they are,
maybe makes it a bigger deal.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
But remember that I think it was.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
The HBO documentary on Tiger, Tony Fenow anyway told the
story of he played with Tiger in twenty nineteen in
that final grouping and said he tried to talk to
Tiger on the seventh toll because they hadn't said anything
in the first six holes, and Tony asked Tiger if
how the kids were trying to make small talk, and
(33:51):
Tiger just said they're fine and kept walking. And Feno
knew at that point that there was gonna be no
talking that day. So when Tiger Woods was locked in,
and you're locked in, so we're gonna give Tiger that
same grace. I think we have to give it to
Rory as well for what he needed to do to
get it done.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
One big deal, a little deal of nod deal that
the Suns fired their head coach again. It's gonna be
the third offseason they're looking for a new head coach.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I don't think it's a big deal, only in that
it kind of had to happen, also kind of predicted
what has happened, Like Bud does not have a good
reputation around the league as being easy to deal with.
And that's a team full of guys that it's so
you know, every guy is so different than the next.
(34:35):
You know, they probably should have hired Kevin Young two
years ago because he was close with Devin Booker. They didn't.
Kevin Young's now in college and you know they're buying
up a buying up a team for him. But they
kept him on staff for a year with Frank last
year and that that partnership didn't work. This one doesn't work.
I just I think you gotta blow that thing up
(34:57):
and start over.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Big deal, a little deal of no deal that David
Griffin didn't make it work in New Orleans is their
executive VP.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I think it's a big deal just because if he
can't make it work with with Zion, who can, right?
Who really can?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
So pretty big deal.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I think it's more of the indictment on Zion and
where they've gone than maybe David Griffin.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, I really think it's an indictment on I agree
with you, indictment on Zion because if Zion is anywhere
near what people think he could be, then David Griffin
is still gamefully employed, but Zion's off the court, on
the court, offt injured, the inability to find anybody who
can get through to him. Plus you gave a new contract. Yeah,
(35:48):
that's what gets you fired.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Big deal, little deal or no deal that Tennessee had
Coach Josh Hipel still hasn't spoken with former Vass quarterback
Nico Iamaliavas since he skipped out on practice last week.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Umm, I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
One.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
You should have a working you know, I have guys
in the portal that I talk to every day. But again,
I also think that Josh Hypel is just like, this
is complete bull crap. We had a deal, you'd agreed
to it. Then all of a sudden you do a
sit in because you find out, you hear other people
are getting more money, Like, that's not how we do business.
So I don't blame him, but you should be cutting
(36:31):
through the noise of the outside and having a personal
relationship with your guy.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Doug, that Bill Belichick's girlfriend seems to have a significant
role within the North Carolina football program.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
You've seen that video from this weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yes, she's in.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
The end zone. She's out there as well talking to him. Yes,
but a big deal, A little dealer, no deal, big deal.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Uncomfortable. What are we doing? You know, for a guy
who doesn't like distractions, he's quickly dating one. And that's
game time. Coming up with The Doug Gottlieb Show live
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