October 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Doug talks about opening night of the NBA as it was broadcast on NBC for the first time since 2002. Doug welcomes FSR MLB Insider Jon Morosi onto the show to preview the World Series matchup. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "For Better Or Worse?".
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and of course, uh the one and only Iowa Sam
m uh huh uh huh. First night of the NBA
in the book. It's kind of fun, right, kind of fun.
And you know, there's industry things that we talk about
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too much on radio, and there's you know, it's like
we've talked about the changing of announcers, the changing of broadcast,
broadcast networks. Let's just be honest. It was a little
bit weird to have to see the Peacock and NBC
broadcasting last night's games, and you know some of the tone,
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and obviously Mike Turrico just has such a warm and
inviting voice. But then you hear you know, Reggie Miller,
and you're like, wait a second, I'm so used to
hearing Reggie Miller usually with TNT, and people don't pay
that much attention to allow to play by play voices.
It kind of feels like the same thing. There was
one difference. Michael Jeffrey Jordan was involved. Now he's not
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at the desk, he's not Charles Barkley, He's he's doing
his own thing. He's sitting in a chair basically getting
interviewed by Mike Turico, and that's how they're gonna present him.
And of course he gave you one classic Jordan confident
sort of moment right where he talked about shooting a
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free throw in front of some kids at some house
that he rented, and and you know, well, here's the story.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Do you ever pick up a ball and to shoot?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I haven't picked up a ball in years.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Come on, just like walk past, there's got to be
a hoop somewhere at your place. You don't see a
hoop anywhere around here. I don't. It's the last time
you pick up a basketball and shot it. I was
at the right a cup. Yeah, and I rented a
house from from the owner. Sure, he came over to
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do pictures, he grandkids, and I was beating greet and
thank them for allowing me to stay in the house.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And he had a basketball court. He says, I want
you to shoot one free throw. I said, really, I
already paid for the already paid for the house. It's
likely you got to see me. So when I stepped
up to shoot your free throw, it's the most nervous
I've been in year. Stop it in years.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Stop it come on.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
The reason being is those kids heard the stories from
the parents about what I did thirty years ago. Right,
So the expectation is thirty years prior and I haven't
touched the basketball. I hope you switched it. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So there's the there's the Jordan Larry Bird. Of course,
I still got a kid sort of moment is the
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. So here's what
I want to do. I'm gonna give you a couple
of thoughts and then all of it. We all have
thoughts on this because I know we were on a
little group text chain and guys have different feelings about
different things. The first is it's brilliant to have Jordan involved.
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Back when NBC had the NBA and the NBA was king,
it was because of Michael Jordan. So I know, you
know Jay stew said he saw it was forty million
dollars for him. It's worth every penny. It just is.
It brings automatic credibility to what you do. And I
get that Magic Johnson was a complete has been a
complete waste of time with NBC, with the ESPN when
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he's been broadcasting. It doesn't bring credibility. I got it.
But remember that was with ESPN who already had it,
and they put Magic Johnson up on the desk where
he has to be an analyst. And that's not what
Magic Johnson does. It's just not so for NBC. It
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it's just like the reason that they they purchased back
what's the song called the hoop?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
What is that called round ball Rock?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Round Ball Rock? Actually Fox FS one least the rights
to round Ball Rock, and then NBC bought it back,
and the whole reason you have, Jordan, the whole reason
you have round Ball Rock is to kind of wake
up those memories in your mind of thirty years ago,
back when the NBA was king. It was great, and
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then the actual product of the NBA last night was
also outstanding. And what happens with the NBA is the
same thing that's happened with baseball, and in some ways
it's converse to what's happened in the NFL. And Jason,
you yourself pointed out all the time, like anybody, the NFL
is almost laughing at the fact that we'll watch any game,
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no matter how bad that Seattle game was on Monday night,
people are still gonna watch. Why it's the NFL is
like I got some money on I got a fantasy football,
I gotta watch it. But the product is far inferior
to the perception of the product, Whereas in baseball, the
perception is it's boring, it's slow, it's unathletic, and it
isn't as fast as the other you know, hockey obviously,
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even but basketball and football, but it's way fast as
it used to be. It's way more athletic than used
to be. And it's really exciting. The pitch clock works,
the new bases work, the new rules work, and then
it's brought back athleticism and rallies back into the game.
The same thing for the NBA. The perception is they
don't care. Perception is they don't play defense and all
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they do is shoot threes. It's like a bad old
man pickup game. You dribble down and shoot a three.
Brother in law ball, meaning you don't guard me, I
don't guard you. And if you watched last night the
defending NBA champion Oklahoma City Thunder, they were garden the
whole night and Houston wasn't far behind, and the game
goes into you know, into overtime, and it's a hard
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fought feels like a playoff game, unbelievable intensity. But if
you didn't watch, you're like, eh, they just shout a
bunch of threes and don't play hard until the last
five minutes of the game. We can pick apart and
talk about the broadcast, but I would say that the
actual game was a really good fun watch where they
it was the opposite of what you would assume. Those
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teams played hard and played great defense and were super
super competitive and as far as the NBC thing, I
think it's I just feel like it's one of those
we make a way, big, way bigger deal of it
than should actually be made. I do think that when
they get to some of the other networks, you know,
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the Amazon Brian, they have so many people who have
never done TV before and their big names. I don't
think it'll be particularly good, much like Amazon's Thursday Night package,
which some guys have grown into being quality analysts. Some
just aren't very good. But it's really hard when you
have all new people. I think Amazon run into this,
but NBC feels like Turner Light having Tariko, who's just
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solid and steady, and whether you like or don't love
Reggie Miller, his voice is synonymous. And oh yeah, by
the way, the last time Reggie Miller was playing and
it was interesting was when Jordan played well and NBC
had had the rights had the rights byr What did
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you think of Jordan's part of it?
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I did not see it live. I only consumed it
via social media. So the point that someone made on
social media, and I can't remember who it was, was
there's this whole excitement about Jordan being rolled out and
is this just a sit down with him for three
hours and then going to play various segments throughout the year.
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Like that was my question. I thought it was entertaining.
I thought it was it was put together very well.
But if this is we're going to see the same
setup of Toeco at Jordan in January, just reminiscing or
talking about certain things, then I don't know if if
that's what we all thought it was going to be.
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But I thought the three minutes that I saw, I
thought we're entertaining.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And then did you notice any difference in the actual
game broadcast?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I looked at like the score bug was actually something
that I looked at. I'm like, all right, how does
this feel? I did get a little different sense. It
did feel like it was on network TV as opposed
to say ESPN or TNT. And I know it's easy
to take shots at ESPN for stuff, but I felt
that last night's game felt more like an event. And
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I feel like sometimes ESPN's broadcast are this is what's
coming up after PTI, and so I felt like it
was a bigger sort of sort of event last night.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Jase do I saw the same thing Dan did on
social media, so either it was one person or it
was like an amalgamation of a lot of people, Like
this is what the Jordan piece is. I had to be,
I had to check and he gets forty million bucks
a year to do this. Remember when it first came
out that they were adding him, my opinion was that
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it's going to diminish what his reputation is if he's
up there doing analysis work, Like do we really want
to see this mysterious guy who's so cool, he's everything
Lebron wants to be reputation wise? Why would he go
on TV and tarnish that by giving us hot takes.
I'm glad they're not doing that. But to Dan's point,
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they're just going to cut up interview segments with Rico
and paying forty million bucks. The part that's incredible to
me is that Twitter is a cesspool. Twitter finds the
negative in everything. If you want to see something that
you hate being bashed, you go to Twitter. It runs
like ninety nine percent positive on Jordan last night. Everyone
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loved it all the blue check marks. They loved it.
Love Jordan. I will call b us on one thing.
The interview opened this way.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You let us bring a camera too, to your place
here to talk to you about basketball. Why do you
want to share what you're thinking about basketball?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Now?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's pay it forward? You know, I have an obligation
to the game of basketball, not financially. I'm okay. I
mean I think more or less from as a basketball
player is to be able to pass on messages of
success and dedication to the game of basketball.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
I think that sounds good. I think it's laughable, and
if you believe it, you're not smart. I think instead
of paying forward, he should have said, pay it into
my bank account. So there's motivations for him be doing this,
I think are laffable. He would have done it much sooner,
but that was are my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Sam.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Did you watch No, I didn't watch a lick of
basketball last night. I did just catch the same clip
that Dan was talking about, and I do find it
funny pay it forward the forty million to me paid forward. No,
it'll be I agree with everybody's points. I think the
more that Michael Jordan opens his mouth, UH will probably
be like there'll be more, you know, opinions swaying either
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way on him and UH. In terms of Peacock's production,
I've only seen football. I love it, but I haven't
seen any basketball yet. He's doing it for the for
the same reason why the last dance came out. He
has he has creative control. I think he's gonna tell
a story where he misses a free throw like no,
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and then and then.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's that's a great that's a great point.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
So that's I Also, do you guys notice on the graphic,
because it was plainly obvious that the way that the
graphic is constructed, the Roman numeral of six is highlighted.
So you see this V I for the six championships,
you guys notice that, yes, yes, So again it's a reminder.
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I've won six titles. So if you just look at
the graphic of what what is it insights to whatever
it is on the bottom part. And even when the
graphic is put in motion, the v I that is
formed from the logo is highlighted. And so that to
me tells me all we need to know about why
he's doing this. This is a reminder. And Doug you tweeted,
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this is my king hook line and sinker Doug's on
the hook. That's what this is about.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Totally Again, I'm just I could I could I could
try and like decipher it. Now I'm gonna defend and
we talked about this a little bit in the pod.
The POD's available at the top of the third hour
Snug Outleb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I point
out that George W. Bush, when he gets paid and
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he gets paid a ton of money to go speak somewhere,
this is what he does. He sits in the couch
and somebody interviews him and he just tells stories. And
I actually think that's genius because of exactly what Jay
Snus said, where put him on the desk, make him
analyze something and that's hard, that is really really difficult.
Not what he does now, he's just being Michael Jordan.
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And I'll also defend him with the forty million dollars
he's making. When you're Michael Jordan, you can't give you
can't give away, you can't give it up for free.
That's just you just cannot. Because the second it gets
out that Michael Jordan is doing something for half his
normal rate, then all of a sudden, all the vultures
are coming. Hey, you did it for NBC for you know,
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way less than your normal rate. No, no, no, if
you want Michael Jordan. You have to pay Michael Jordan prices.
So I do not agree with you. Jase stew I
understand that he's sitting there going but he really doesn't
have to do it. He doesn't have to do it.
He's just doing what Peyton Manning did, What Pey man
does the same thing. He doesn't want to broadcast games
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in a booth, he doesn't want to be in a desk,
but he wants to talk about football, wants to stay relevant,
so he does the Manning cast, and this is his
way of staying relevant, making money, being involved, also continuing
to remind people I'm still the greatest of all time
and this is the network that is most associated with
the time in which I was great.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yes, Dan, here's here's where the Jordan and this is.
I wasn't a Jordan hater, just never was a Jordan fan.
Jordan wants this again, that he's giving back to basketball.
The last dance videos were sat on for how many years?
Twenty two years before they were actually released, and we
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have talked about why they were released at that point,
and it's because Lebron James was encroaching in on Jordan's
reign as possibly the greatest player ever. So now we
have this ten part documentary series. COVID was separate of that,
Like this thing was in the works, it was moved
up because of COVID the release, but they were going
to release this ten part doc because Jordan finally gave
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the okay to it. And he talks about giving back
to basketball as the owner of the Charlotte Hornets. I
vividly were remember their season starting and he mentioned the
Ryder Cup of Jordan being at a Ryder Cup when
his Hornets were starting a season at one point, and
to me, that was, all right, where are your priorities then,
do you really want to be? You know, you're giving
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back to basketball? May have been Let's make the Charlotte
Hornets an actual winner, Let's turn them into something. And
so that's why I always think this stuff is a
bit contrived when it comes to Jordan. I also set
you guys the images on the group text of his logo.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I saw it's actually really cool. But again, these are
the type of things that make a guy of his
ego super excited about doing it. Hey man, you know,
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Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and today is a Wednesday, that means we are two
days away from the World Series. And the guy who's
joined us all season long, the guy who you should
listen to. He's our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider and
reporter for the MLB Network, John Morosi joins us here
on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. And John,
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I think the first thing that pops up in most
people's minds with the level of dominance that the Dodgers
had in the NLCS versus the unbelievable ending to the
alcs's the rest versus rust. What are the Dodgers doing
to prepare themselves for the World Series, considering the amount
of time that they've.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
Had off well, Doug at Afternoon Happy World Series coming
up a great time of the year, it does seem
to me that Dodgers has done a pretty good job
of planning out this time the best they can. It
certainly has been an issue for teams in the past
when when you're not playing for a while, that can
be a real challenge. I covered multiple Detroit Tigers World
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Series in which they were they had the longer layoff
and really suffered from it. I do think it advantages
the Dodgers that, yes, they can have a couple of
workouts at Dodger Stadium and then you've got to make
the travel to go to the next city to begin
the World Series on the road. So it's not as
though they're getting too stale by staying at home for
too long. And of course it does help this team.
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Many of the players Doug had a very similar experience
just a year ago being in the World Series. So
this seems to me to be a Dodger team that's
going to be able to handle this long layoff before
Game one.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay, does the rotation change at all considering the amount
of time off.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
No, it doesn't, and nor should it. They're going to
have to begin this World Series Blake Snow starting out
Yoshinobu Yamamoto with Game two. Dave Roberts is confirmed that
much of it. I would expect we'll see a similar
plan with Tyler Glass now and showe a Otani in
Games three and four. There are very few teams, doug
that have the type of starting depth that the Dodgers do,
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and I think we should be clear and saying that
it wasn't always apparent that they would have had this
amount of depth during the course of the season, because
they had different injuries that they that they incurred, other
things that happened to them during the course of the
year where they had to build up this depth as
time gradually went along. But now that they've got it,
now that Yamamoto has dialed in, now that Blake Snell
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is pitching like a Saiah winner again, They've They've got Otani,
by the way, pitching Game four for goodness sake, Toby.
They have so much depth right now, and I think
the bullpen has gotten into a good space too, to
where yes, Toronto has what I would say is a
very good, contact oriented lineup, but they're running up against
one of the best swinging misstaffs we have ever seen,
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Frankly Doug in recent years.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay, let's let's uh, let's dig in the to the
Otani thing. He didn't hit particularly, he didn't hit hardly
at all, right, and then all of a sudden he
has this unbelievable performance. We look back on last year's
World Series and the Yankees did a really good job,
really good job on him. What what Obviously it fell
apart in Game four, But what were the Brewers? What
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are the Yankees? What are these teams done to stifle
one of the greatest hitters, if not the greatest hitter
of all time.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, it's trying to keep him uncomfortable, Doug, and I
think you could do that through a combination of a
couple of different elements. It's probably trying to as best
you can. UH have breaking pitches that challenge him, try
to get him a little bit into swing mode where
maybe you're you're getting him and counts where he's expecting
fastball and instead you flip a breaking ball in. I
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do think trying to get him below the zone and
get him to chase a little bit is how you
can have success. Now, obviously that's a two part equation.
He's not always going to chase, but when when you
do get him in situations where he's got to face
a split which is the main pitch of Gossman, it's
the main pitch of you Savage. So he's gonna see
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it in games one and two. I think you look
at what's happening potentially in the in game three four,
I look at it and say, there are enough weapons
that the Jays can throw at him and different types
of pitches on it. I thought Bieber's slider looked really
good in the second of his two starts there against
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the Mariners in the America League Championship Series. So even
though you don't have the kind of lefties that you
would love to run up against Otani, and maybe that's
gonna put a little bit of a burden on the
Toronto bullpen. I do think when when the Jays are
when the Jays pitchers are in form, you do have
the types of guys like Bieber and you Savage in particular,
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who can be a little bit split neutral, and so
I think that their their ability to locate the splitter
down under the zone, disguise it like a fastball, and
get O Tani in swing mode. That's when you can
add success getting him out of the zone. If you're
giving him fastballs in the zone, you might as well
forget about it because he's just going to crush those.
And I think if you try to elevate a fastball,
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he can get on top of that as well as anybody.
We saw him hit a ball out of the stadium
at Dodgers Stadium. This is These are just other worldly
superhero things that Otani is doing. So I think that
the key thing is going to be, especially for a
team that has all right handed starting pitchers Doug, They're
going to have to locate their secondary stuff down And
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I think that where Goslin got in trouble the first
time he started was when he had that that splitter
a little bit too high to cal Raley. If you
have things that are thigh high, so Otani is just
it's not.
Speaker 9 (22:51):
Going to work.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
You've got to be down out of the zone and
then find ways to get him to Chase.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, John Morosi
is is joining us on the other side you have
Lad Guerrero Junior. He's he's had his own struggles in
the postseason. What are people doing to Vlad?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Lad? I mean when you look at what he's been
able to do the last the last round, he's been
amazing and he's been in the American League, the Championship Series, MVP.
I think that in terms of what the Dodgers will
do to him?
Speaker 9 (23:22):
What you I think.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
What the book is on Vlad and it's obviously been
mixed results because because the Mariners weren't able to always
keep him in the ballpark. Is he's able to hit
the ball so well to the opposite field, to where
sometimes with certain right handed hitters you're saying, well, to
keep the ball away from him, Well, you do that
to Vladdie, he's already showed he could hit the ball
out of the stadium to right field as well. He
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looks to me and Doug I covered Miguel Cabrera Detroit
for a long time. He looks like early career Miguel
and and Migulka Brea is gonna be in Hall of Fame,
and Vlad has a decent chance to join his dad
in the Hall of Fame, which is pretty amazing to say.
So that's what I'm seeing there is is you're gonna
have to if if you are if you're the Dodgers,
You're not gonna just be able to get him out
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over the plate. You're gonna have to command the ball
in off the plate well to then earn the right
to be able to go outside. And I think that's
that's the challenge, even for a team that's got great
stuff like the Dodgers do as a as a group
of pitchers. I do think Yamamoto's stuff of all the matchups,
he probably fits the best in terms of the way
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that Yoshinovo game plans. We sell them have that complete
game against the Brewers. Actually think game one. I like
the Jays chances to win Game one. Blake Snell is amazing,
of course, but that allows the Jays to get their
right handed bats in there. And while Snell is able
to command, you know, cutter sink or you can kind
of move the ball around a little bit, command both
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sides of the plate. I think that the matchup of
Laddie against Snell, the matchup of Springer against Snell, I
think that the I think Toronto Blue Jays have a
decent chance in that Game one, and we'll see Doug
if they end up being able to activate Bobachett, who
of course has missed the initial rounds of the playoffs
due to a knee injury, but told me after Game
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seven of the celebration he is good to go for
the World Series. So we'll see what role, if any,
Bowl might have. Maybe he's gonna be more of a
pinch hitter type, Doug. But I'm curious to see what
type of decisions that Toronto Blue Jays make about Boba
Schet think.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
About this, vladd who was I mean, he hit over
four to forty in the playoffs so far, but against
lefties in the entire year regular season three to twenty
six on base forty three percent of the time OPS
is nine forty six. Against right he's still respectable two
eighty two on base three sixty seven and eight point
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eight eight eighteen OPS just so much higher against lefties,
crazy amount amount higher against lefties. So I mean, you're
talking about, uh, what is it? You know, forty three
percent of the time he's on base as opposed to
thirty seven percent of the time beyond base.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
OPS beaks so higher. It's it's really interesting that That's
why I asked if they're going to keep the rotation
the way it is. But again, you have Blake's now,
who's been in these big moments, right, what about the
Dodger bullpen, which has been the bane of our guy,
Jason Stewart's existence. And they they did enough to sweep
the Brewers, but Game one was still very very alarming.
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What do you think the plan is in terms of
who they're going to use in the World Series.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Well, first of all, Doug, I let Jase to know
that I've got to send condolences because he's had to
deal with the grand total of one playoff loss this
whole month. I know it's been real hard on him.
I mean, you lose one game and it's a crisis.
But they're actually they're doing okay. I think that the
fact that Blake Trinon has returned to the circle of
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trust is really important because I know, obviously Blake and
struggles down the stretch, and obviously the game Game one
against Milwaukee was a little frightful for the Dodgers. There's
there's a little bit of I think confidence rebuilding now
in him and to me, the steadiness of trying is
really important in the ability for Roki Sasaki to be
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settled now as as the late game option, and I
think you credit the Dodgers. I know Jeff Passen wrote
about this late on in the season about the kind
of workshop they did with Roki to get him lined
up and to get him better. I just thought overall,
tremendous work that he that Roki's been able to do
to get comfortable again in a late ending situation and
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really embrace his new role. So I think that those
two guys stand out to me as being the most
important trying in Susaki. And then we'll see what what
Besty is able to do in terms of being a
legit left handed option They've got. The Jays have a
number of key lefties. Lucas is really important to them,
Addison Barge is really important them. Dalton varshow had a
huge hit in Game seven, so I'm curious to see
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a little bit of what that will mean for the
overall bullpen planning now of this team. Again, I think
that there's enough depth for the Dodgers to be able
to navigate this, and who knows, maybe in certain spots
we'll see what this means later on down the line.
Does does Glass now pop out there for an appearance
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here and there. But I think that the success of
the Dodgers in the especially in the NLCS, I think
was predicated largely on the fact that very few pitchers
had to touch the ball. Their starters got so deep
that the bullpen did almost didn't have an opportunity to
become a problem. And I think it's going to have
to be a similar situation here to where the starters
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need to go deep. And I think this now feeds
into what we're talking about with the Toronto Blue Jays.
If they're able to work deeper at bats, if they're
able to force the starters to leave after six innings
instead of seven, then you have to cover three more
outs of the bullpen, and then you're giving the Dodger
bullpen a chance to become a negative impact on this
series if you're the Dodger. So I'll be curious to
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me to see not just in Game one, how many
runs this score against now, but how many how many
pitches can they make him have to work through early?
If you could, if you get a high pitch count
Blakes Now, then all of a sudden, the Dodger bullpen
needs to be relied on a bit more, and I
think that's what could swing the series into Toronto's favor.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, John Rossi
is our guest. You know, I was thinking you were
talking about you like Toronto game one, and you brought
up a lot of good reasons why, And then I
was thinking again out loud, is I get the rust thing.
But if you're the Dodgers, and it's better off to
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start on the road that way, if you just get
a split, you have home field advantage when you come
back home. But the Blue Jays have been great on
the road, right, Look what they did Seattle on the road.
They've been They've been really really good in the road.
Is there any difference in your mind in these venues
and the ultimate and the outcomes.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah, it's a great question. I think that Number one,
the Jays were able to play at Dodger Stadium this
year already once, and so I think that they don't.
Maybe the mystique and the and and the intimidation factor,
if you will, of playing at Dodger Stadium is probably
not as great for them as it would have been
if they hadn't been out there. Dodger Stadium is a
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great environment. Toronto was one of the loudest stadiums I've
ever heard in my life with Finger at that home run.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Seattle, by the way, was also very raucous. I don't
think the Jays are going to experience a more a
more raucous or more hostile environment than what they experienced
in Seattle already.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And they all they also went through Yankee Stadium. So
I mean, with all the respect to Dodger Stadium, which
is a great place to play and loud, I don't
think it's gonna be any for the Jays and what
they've already experienced in New York and in Seattle. I
think that they've already gone through a couple quality teams.
They've already gone through a couple of difficult venues. They
split the two games in New York and they took
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two out of three in Seattle, so they've shown they
can win games on the road. They're also a really
good home team during the course of the year. This
is a very close series. I think that those that
believe it's going to be a sweep for the Dodgers,
I just think that they're kind of missing how good
the Jays have been. They're also missing the quality of
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the postseason type baseball of the Jays play, and part
of that is building rallies. I think one thing that
the Jays did better than the Mariners during the ALCS
was they would build a rally where it would be walk, single, double,
another base hit. They could build in a bunt. Where
the Mariners were very much home run dependent. The Jays,
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while the biggest sing of their season was a home
run with Springer, they were also able to build rallies,
and that, to me is something that I think will
serve them very very well against the Dodgers. I think
we're gonna see two great atmospheres. Dodger Stadium, to me,
is still my favorite venue in sports. It's magic, especially
when you're there five o'clock Pacific time game, the sun's
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reflecting off the San Gabriel's. You realize that God intended
for baseball, we played at that exact place at that
exact time, and you're just grateful to be there. So
there's gonna be that magic that exists. But I think
what they've got at Rogers Center. Now it's become a
state of the art venue. In the last couple of
years they've renovated it. The players love it there. It's
a true ballpark feel now, more than just a stadium.
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Of course, once upon a time they shared it with
the Toronto Argonauts the CFL. It is now a true
baseball stadium, Doug, and I think it's gonna be a
very worthy site for Game one of the World Series
here this weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
John, you're the lucky one, right, you get to cover
this thing. It's gonna be so much fun, and it
is Canada versus LA, and it's gonna be really exciting.
Thanks so much for being our guests. We look forward
to listening you doing the World Series and talk with
you more on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
All the best, Doug, very best wishes for the Streak
College Hoop season two. It's a wonderful time of here,
my friend. All the best, Wigions to YouTube.
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for media availabilities. They made a graphic for it, but
you'll get to decipher on what is better or worse
for a couple of these topics. Topic number one for
(34:21):
Better or Worse NBA Network NBC versus CBS, Ooh, the
Wayback Machine.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
CBS is better. Brent Musburger. Dick Stockton called the.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Games Pat O'Brien.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yes, people forget how good CBS was back in the day.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
All right, For better or worse Doug Pro Bowl style
after the super Bowl or before the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Or never, never, I will go before the super Bowl
once football, Once the super Bowl is done, We're done
with football until the draft.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
For better or worse? Doug doubleheader this week? The NBA
one we got last night or the NFL one we
got Monday night? What was better? What was worse?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
M wait, what was worse? The NBA was better, The
NBA was great. I mean you even said your Seahawks
fan like that game was a mess. The games last
night were good, were well played, well broadcast, well competed close.
NBA was better than the NFL this week?
Speaker 6 (35:32):
All right?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
In a hidden gem here for better or worse? The
red accent on uniforms, the Dodgers in their red numbers
or the Blue Jays and their red.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Maple leaf Dodgers in the red numbers.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
It is a classic.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Look better, better, and that's game time.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Get out there and press.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
That was the press, It was actually game time. But
the press is fine too.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's all right, it's oh geez whatever, Yeah, all right,
here's we're gonna do. We're gonna do the Midway coming
up next. Okay, what is what's the most intriguing storyline
about the NBA this upcoming season. We'll give all of
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and of course, uh the one and only Iowa Sam
m uh huh uh huh. First night of the NBA
in the book. It's kind of fun, right, kind of fun.
And you know, there's industry things that we talk about
(01:11):
too much on radio, and there's you know, it's like
we've talked about the changing of announcers, the changing of broadcast,
broadcast networks. Let's just be honest. It was a little
bit weird to have to see the Peacock and NBC
broadcasting last night's games, and you know some of the tone,
(01:33):
and obviously Mike Turrico just has such a warm and
inviting voice. But then you hear you know, Reggie Miller,
and you're like, wait a second, I'm so used to
hearing Reggie Miller usually with TNT, and people don't pay
that much attention to allow to play by play voices.
It kind of feels like the same thing. There was
one difference. Michael Jeffrey Jordan was involved. Now he's not
(01:57):
at the desk, he's not Charles Barkley, He's he's doing
his own thing. He's sitting in a chair basically getting
interviewed by Mike Turico, and that's how they're gonna present him.
And of course he gave you one classic Jordan confident
sort of moment right where he talked about shooting a
(02:18):
free throw in front of some kids at some house
that he rented, and and you know, well, here's the story.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Do you ever pick up a ball and to shoot?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I haven't picked up a ball in years.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Come on, just like walk past, there's got to be
a hoop somewhere at your place. You don't see a
hoop anywhere around here. I don't. It's the last time
you pick up a basketball and shot it. I was
at the right a cup. Yeah, and I rented a
house from from the owner. Sure, he came over to
(02:52):
do pictures, he grandkids, and I was beating greet and
thank them for allowing me to stay in the house.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And he had a basketball court. He says, I want
you to shoot one free throw. I said, really, I
already paid for the already paid for the house. It's
likely you got to see me. So when I stepped
up to shoot your free throw, it's the most nervous
I've been in year. Stop it in years.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Stop it come on.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
The reason being is those kids heard the stories from
the parents about what I did thirty years ago. Right,
So the expectation is thirty years prior and I haven't
touched the basketball. I hope you switched it. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So there's the there's the Jordan Larry Bird. Of course,
I still got a kid sort of moment is the
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. So here's what
I want to do. I'm gonna give you a couple
of thoughts and then all of it. We all have
thoughts on this because I know we were on a
little group text chain and guys have different feelings about
different things. The first is it's brilliant to have Jordan involved.
(04:02):
Back when NBC had the NBA and the NBA was king,
it was because of Michael Jordan. So I know, you
know Jay stew said he saw it was forty million
dollars for him. It's worth every penny. It just is.
It brings automatic credibility to what you do. And I
get that Magic Johnson was a complete has been a
complete waste of time with NBC, with the ESPN when
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he's been broadcasting. It doesn't bring credibility. I got it.
But remember that was with ESPN who already had it,
and they put Magic Johnson up on the desk where
he has to be an analyst. And that's not what
Magic Johnson does. It's just not so for NBC. It
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it's just like the reason that they they purchased back
what's the song called the hoop?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
What is that called round ball Rock?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Round Ball Rock? Actually Fox FS one least the rights
to round Ball Rock, and then NBC bought it back,
and the whole reason you have, Jordan, the whole reason
you have round Ball Rock is to kind of wake
up those memories in your mind of thirty years ago,
back when the NBA was king. It was great, and
(05:21):
then the actual product of the NBA last night was
also outstanding. And what happens with the NBA is the
same thing that's happened with baseball, and in some ways
it's converse to what's happened in the NFL. And Jason,
you yourself pointed out all the time, like anybody, the NFL
is almost laughing at the fact that we'll watch any game,
(05:43):
no matter how bad that Seattle game was on Monday night,
people are still gonna watch. Why it's the NFL is
like I got some money on I got a fantasy football,
I gotta watch it. But the product is far inferior
to the perception of the product, Whereas in baseball, the
perception is it's boring, it's slow, it's unathletic, and it
isn't as fast as the other you know, hockey obviously,
(06:05):
even but basketball and football, but it's way fast as
it used to be. It's way more athletic than used
to be. And it's really exciting. The pitch clock works,
the new bases work, the new rules work, and then
it's brought back athleticism and rallies back into the game.
The same thing for the NBA. The perception is they
don't care. Perception is they don't play defense and all
(06:25):
they do is shoot threes. It's like a bad old
man pickup game. You dribble down and shoot a three.
Brother in law ball, meaning you don't guard me, I
don't guard you. And if you watched last night the
defending NBA champion Oklahoma City Thunder, they were garden the
whole night and Houston wasn't far behind, and the game
goes into you know, into overtime, and it's a hard
(06:47):
fought feels like a playoff game, unbelievable intensity. But if
you didn't watch, you're like, eh, they just shout a
bunch of threes and don't play hard until the last
five minutes of the game. We can pick apart and
talk about the broadcast, but I would say that the
actual game was a really good fun watch where they
it was the opposite of what you would assume. Those
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teams played hard and played great defense and were super
super competitive and as far as the NBC thing, I
think it's I just feel like it's one of those
we make a way, big, way bigger deal of it
than should actually be made. I do think that when
they get to some of the other networks, you know,
(07:29):
the Amazon Brian, they have so many people who have
never done TV before and their big names. I don't
think it'll be particularly good, much like Amazon's Thursday Night package,
which some guys have grown into being quality analysts. Some
just aren't very good. But it's really hard when you
have all new people. I think Amazon run into this,
but NBC feels like Turner Light having Tariko, who's just
(07:52):
solid and steady, and whether you like or don't love
Reggie Miller, his voice is synonymous. And oh yeah, by
the way, the last time Reggie Miller was playing and
it was interesting was when Jordan played well and NBC
had had the rights had the rights byr What did
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you think of Jordan's part of it?
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I did not see it live. I only consumed it
via social media. So the point that someone made on
social media, and I can't remember who it was, was
there's this whole excitement about Jordan being rolled out and
is this just a sit down with him for three
hours and then going to play various segments throughout the year.
(08:38):
Like that was my question. I thought it was entertaining.
I thought it was it was put together very well.
But if this is we're going to see the same
setup of Toeco at Jordan in January, just reminiscing or
talking about certain things, then I don't know if if
that's what we all thought it was going to be.
(08:58):
But I thought the three minutes that I saw, I
thought we're entertaining.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And then did you notice any difference in the actual
game broadcast?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I looked at like the score bug was actually something
that I looked at. I'm like, all right, how does
this feel? I did get a little different sense. It
did feel like it was on network TV as opposed
to say ESPN or TNT. And I know it's easy
to take shots at ESPN for stuff, but I felt
that last night's game felt more like an event. And
(09:33):
I feel like sometimes ESPN's broadcast are this is what's
coming up after PTI, and so I felt like it
was a bigger sort of sort of event last night.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Jase do I saw the same thing Dan did on
social media, so either it was one person or it
was like an amalgamation of a lot of people, Like
this is what the Jordan piece is. I had to be,
I had to check and he gets forty million bucks
a year to do this. Remember when it first came
out that they were adding him, my opinion was that
(10:09):
it's going to diminish what his reputation is if he's
up there doing analysis work, Like do we really want
to see this mysterious guy who's so cool, he's everything
Lebron wants to be reputation wise? Why would he go
on TV and tarnish that by giving us hot takes.
I'm glad they're not doing that. But to Dan's point,
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they're just going to cut up interview segments with Rico
and paying forty million bucks. The part that's incredible to
me is that Twitter is a cesspool. Twitter finds the
negative in everything. If you want to see something that
you hate being bashed, you go to Twitter. It runs
like ninety nine percent positive on Jordan last night. Everyone
(10:54):
loved it all the blue check marks. They loved it.
Love Jordan. I will call b us on one thing.
The interview opened this way.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You let us bring a camera too, to your place
here to talk to you about basketball. Why do you
want to share what you're thinking about basketball?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Now?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's pay it forward? You know, I have an obligation
to the game of basketball, not financially. I'm okay. I
mean I think more or less from as a basketball
player is to be able to pass on messages of
success and dedication to the game of basketball.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
I think that sounds good. I think it's laughable, and
if you believe it, you're not smart. I think instead
of paying forward, he should have said, pay it into
my bank account. So there's motivations for him be doing this,
I think are laffable. He would have done it much sooner,
but that was are my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Sam.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Did you watch No, I didn't watch a lick of
basketball last night. I did just catch the same clip
that Dan was talking about, and I do find it
funny pay it forward the forty million to me paid forward. No,
it'll be I agree with everybody's points. I think the
more that Michael Jordan opens his mouth, UH will probably
be like there'll be more, you know, opinions swaying either
(12:10):
way on him and UH. In terms of Peacock's production,
I've only seen football. I love it, but I haven't
seen any basketball yet. He's doing it for the for
the same reason why the last dance came out. He
has he has creative control. I think he's gonna tell
a story where he misses a free throw like no,
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and then and then.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's that's a great that's a great point.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
So that's I Also, do you guys notice on the graphic,
because it was plainly obvious that the way that the
graphic is constructed, the Roman numeral of six is highlighted.
So you see this V I for the six championships,
you guys notice that, yes, yes, So again it's a reminder.
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I've won six titles. So if you just look at
the graphic of what what is it insights to whatever
it is on the bottom part. And even when the
graphic is put in motion, the v I that is
formed from the logo is highlighted. And so that to
me tells me all we need to know about why
he's doing this. This is a reminder. And Doug you tweeted,
(13:21):
this is my king hook line and sinker Doug's on
the hook. That's what this is about.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Totally Again, I'm just I could I could I could
try and like decipher it. Now I'm gonna defend and
we talked about this a little bit in the pod.
The POD's available at the top of the third hour
Snug Outleb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I point
out that George W. Bush, when he gets paid and
(13:47):
he gets paid a ton of money to go speak somewhere,
this is what he does. He sits in the couch
and somebody interviews him and he just tells stories. And
I actually think that's genius because of exactly what Jay
Snus said, where put him on the desk, make him
analyze something and that's hard, that is really really difficult.
Not what he does now, he's just being Michael Jordan.
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And I'll also defend him with the forty million dollars
he's making. When you're Michael Jordan, you can't give you
can't give away, you can't give it up for free.
That's just you just cannot. Because the second it gets
out that Michael Jordan is doing something for half his
normal rate, then all of a sudden, all the vultures
are coming. Hey, you did it for NBC for you know,
(14:33):
way less than your normal rate. No, no, no, if
you want Michael Jordan. You have to pay Michael Jordan prices.
So I do not agree with you. Jase stew I
understand that he's sitting there going but he really doesn't
have to do it. He doesn't have to do it.
He's just doing what Peyton Manning did, What Pey man
does the same thing. He doesn't want to broadcast games
(14:54):
in a booth, he doesn't want to be in a desk,
but he wants to talk about football, wants to stay relevant,
so he does the Manning cast, and this is his
way of staying relevant, making money, being involved, also continuing
to remind people I'm still the greatest of all time
and this is the network that is most associated with
the time in which I was great.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yes, Dan, here's here's where the Jordan and this is.
I wasn't a Jordan hater, just never was a Jordan fan.
Jordan wants this again, that he's giving back to basketball.
The last dance videos were sat on for how many years?
Twenty two years before they were actually released, and we
(15:32):
have talked about why they were released at that point,
and it's because Lebron James was encroaching in on Jordan's
reign as possibly the greatest player ever. So now we
have this ten part documentary series. COVID was separate of that,
Like this thing was in the works, it was moved
up because of COVID the release, but they were going
to release this ten part doc because Jordan finally gave
(15:54):
the okay to it. And he talks about giving back
to basketball as the owner of the Charlotte Hornets. I
vividly were remember their season starting and he mentioned the
Ryder Cup of Jordan being at a Ryder Cup when
his Hornets were starting a season at one point, and
to me, that was, all right, where are your priorities then,
do you really want to be? You know, you're giving
(16:15):
back to basketball? May have been Let's make the Charlotte
Hornets an actual winner, Let's turn them into something. And
so that's why I always think this stuff is a
bit contrived when it comes to Jordan. I also set
you guys the images on the group text of his logo.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I saw it's actually really cool. But again, these are
the type of things that make a guy of his
ego super excited about doing it. Hey man, you know,
check this out. It's actually a really good touch. It's
a really, really good touch. Speaking of pros Doug gottlip
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Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and today is a Wednesday, that means we are two
days away from the World Series. And the guy who's
joined us all season long, the guy who you should
listen to. He's our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider and
reporter for the MLB Network, John Morosi joins us here
on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. And John,
(17:31):
I think the first thing that pops up in most
people's minds with the level of dominance that the Dodgers
had in the NLCS versus the unbelievable ending to the
alcs's the rest versus rust. What are the Dodgers doing
to prepare themselves for the World Series, considering the amount
of time that they've.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
Had off well, Doug at Afternoon Happy World Series coming
up a great time of the year, it does seem
to me that Dodgers has done a pretty good job
of planning out this time the best they can. It
certainly has been an issue for teams in the past
when when you're not playing for a while, that can
be a real challenge. I covered multiple Detroit Tigers World
(18:12):
Series in which they were they had the longer layoff
and really suffered from it. I do think it advantages
the Dodgers that, yes, they can have a couple of
workouts at Dodger Stadium and then you've got to make
the travel to go to the next city to begin
the World Series on the road. So it's not as
though they're getting too stale by staying at home for
too long. And of course it does help this team.
(18:32):
Many of the players Doug had a very similar experience
just a year ago being in the World Series. So
this seems to me to be a Dodger team that's
going to be able to handle this long layoff before
Game one.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay, does the rotation change at all considering the amount
of time off.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
No, it doesn't, and nor should it. They're going to
have to begin this World Series Blake Snow starting out
Yoshinobu Yamamoto with Game two. Dave Roberts is confirmed that
much of it. I would expect we'll see a similar
plan with Tyler Glass now and showe a Otani in
Games three and four. There are very few teams, doug
that have the type of starting depth that the Dodgers do,
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and I think we should be clear and saying that
it wasn't always apparent that they would have had this
amount of depth during the course of the season, because
they had different injuries that they that they incurred, other
things that happened to them during the course of the
year where they had to build up this depth as
time gradually went along. But now that they've got it,
now that Yamamoto has dialed in, now that Blake Snell
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is pitching like a Saiah winner again, They've They've got Otani,
by the way, pitching Game four for goodness sake, Toby.
They have so much depth right now, and I think
the bullpen has gotten into a good space too, to
where yes, Toronto has what I would say is a
very good, contact oriented lineup, but they're running up against
one of the best swinging misstaffs we have ever seen,
(20:01):
Frankly Doug in recent years.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay, let's let's uh, let's dig in the to the
Otani thing. He didn't hit particularly, he didn't hit hardly
at all, right, and then all of a sudden he
has this unbelievable performance. We look back on last year's
World Series and the Yankees did a really good job,
really good job on him. What what Obviously it fell
apart in Game four, But what were the Brewers? What
(20:26):
are the Yankees? What are these teams done to stifle
one of the greatest hitters, if not the greatest hitter
of all time.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, it's trying to keep him uncomfortable, Doug, and I
think you could do that through a combination of a
couple of different elements. It's probably trying to as best
you can. UH have breaking pitches that challenge him, try
to get him a little bit into swing mode where
maybe you're you're getting him and counts where he's expecting
fastball and instead you flip a breaking ball in. I
(20:56):
do think trying to get him below the zone and
get him to chase a little bit is how you
can have success. Now, obviously that's a two part equation.
He's not always going to chase, but when when you
do get him in situations where he's got to face
a split which is the main pitch of Gossman, it's
the main pitch of you Savage. So he's gonna see
(21:17):
it in games one and two. I think you look
at what's happening potentially in the in game three four,
I look at it and say, there are enough weapons
that the Jays can throw at him and different types
of pitches on it. I thought Bieber's slider looked really
good in the second of his two starts there against
(21:37):
the Mariners in the America League Championship Series. So even
though you don't have the kind of lefties that you
would love to run up against Otani, and maybe that's
gonna put a little bit of a burden on the
Toronto bullpen. I do think when when the Jays are
when the Jays pitchers are in form, you do have
the types of guys like Bieber and you Savage in particular,
(21:58):
who can be a little bit split neutral, and so
I think that their their ability to locate the splitter
down under the zone, disguise it like a fastball, and
get O Tani in swing mode. That's when you can
add success getting him out of the zone. If you're
giving him fastballs in the zone, you might as well
forget about it because he's just going to crush those.
And I think if you try to elevate a fastball,
(22:20):
he can get on top of that as well as anybody.
We saw him hit a ball out of the stadium
at Dodgers Stadium. This is These are just other worldly
superhero things that Otani is doing. So I think that
the key thing is going to be, especially for a
team that has all right handed starting pitchers Doug, They're
going to have to locate their secondary stuff down And
(22:40):
I think that where Goslin got in trouble the first
time he started was when he had that that splitter
a little bit too high to cal Raley. If you
have things that are thigh high, so Otani is just
it's not.
Speaker 9 (22:51):
Going to work.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
You've got to be down out of the zone and
then find ways to get him to Chase.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, John Morosi
is is joining us on the other side you have
Lad Guerrero Junior. He's he's had his own struggles in
the postseason. What are people doing to Vlad?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Lad? I mean when you look at what he's been
able to do the last the last round, he's been
amazing and he's been in the American League, the Championship Series, MVP.
I think that in terms of what the Dodgers will
do to him?
Speaker 9 (23:22):
What you I think.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
What the book is on Vlad and it's obviously been
mixed results because because the Mariners weren't able to always
keep him in the ballpark. Is he's able to hit
the ball so well to the opposite field, to where
sometimes with certain right handed hitters you're saying, well, to
keep the ball away from him, Well, you do that
to Vladdie, he's already showed he could hit the ball
out of the stadium to right field as well. He
(23:46):
looks to me and Doug I covered Miguel Cabrera Detroit
for a long time. He looks like early career Miguel
and and Migulka Brea is gonna be in Hall of Fame,
and Vlad has a decent chance to join his dad
in the Hall of Fame, which is pretty amazing to say.
So that's what I'm seeing there is is you're gonna
have to if if you are if you're the Dodgers,
You're not gonna just be able to get him out
(24:08):
over the plate. You're gonna have to command the ball
in off the plate well to then earn the right
to be able to go outside. And I think that's
that's the challenge, even for a team that's got great
stuff like the Dodgers do as a as a group
of pitchers. I do think Yamamoto's stuff of all the matchups,
he probably fits the best in terms of the way
(24:30):
that Yoshinovo game plans. We sell them have that complete
game against the Brewers. Actually think game one. I like
the Jays chances to win Game one. Blake Snell is amazing,
of course, but that allows the Jays to get their
right handed bats in there. And while Snell is able
to command, you know, cutter sink or you can kind
of move the ball around a little bit, command both
(24:51):
sides of the plate. I think that the matchup of
Laddie against Snell, the matchup of Springer against Snell, I
think that the I think Toronto Blue Jays have a
decent chance in that Game one, and we'll see Doug
if they end up being able to activate Bobachett, who
of course has missed the initial rounds of the playoffs
due to a knee injury, but told me after Game
(25:12):
seven of the celebration he is good to go for
the World Series. So we'll see what role, if any,
Bowl might have. Maybe he's gonna be more of a
pinch hitter type, Doug. But I'm curious to see what
type of decisions that Toronto Blue Jays make about Boba
Schet think.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
About this, vladd who was I mean, he hit over
four to forty in the playoffs so far, but against
lefties in the entire year regular season three to twenty
six on base forty three percent of the time OPS
is nine forty six. Against right he's still respectable two
eighty two on base three sixty seven and eight point
(25:48):
eight eight eighteen OPS just so much higher against lefties,
crazy amount amount higher against lefties. So I mean, you're
talking about, uh, what is it? You know, forty three
percent of the time he's on base as opposed to
thirty seven percent of the time beyond base.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
OPS beaks so higher. It's it's really interesting that That's
why I asked if they're going to keep the rotation
the way it is. But again, you have Blake's now,
who's been in these big moments, right, what about the
Dodger bullpen, which has been the bane of our guy,
Jason Stewart's existence. And they they did enough to sweep
the Brewers, but Game one was still very very alarming.
(26:30):
What do you think the plan is in terms of
who they're going to use in the World Series.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Well, first of all, Doug, I let Jase to know
that I've got to send condolences because he's had to
deal with the grand total of one playoff loss this
whole month. I know it's been real hard on him.
I mean, you lose one game and it's a crisis.
But they're actually they're doing okay. I think that the
fact that Blake Trinon has returned to the circle of
(26:57):
trust is really important because I know, obviously Blake and
struggles down the stretch, and obviously the game Game one
against Milwaukee was a little frightful for the Dodgers. There's
there's a little bit of I think confidence rebuilding now
in him and to me, the steadiness of trying is
really important in the ability for Roki Sasaki to be
(27:19):
settled now as as the late game option, and I
think you credit the Dodgers. I know Jeff Passen wrote
about this late on in the season about the kind
of workshop they did with Roki to get him lined
up and to get him better. I just thought overall,
tremendous work that he that Roki's been able to do
to get comfortable again in a late ending situation and
(27:41):
really embrace his new role. So I think that those
two guys stand out to me as being the most
important trying in Susaki. And then we'll see what what
Besty is able to do in terms of being a
legit left handed option They've got. The Jays have a
number of key lefties. Lucas is really important to them,
Addison Barge is really important them. Dalton varshow had a
huge hit in Game seven, so I'm curious to see
(28:03):
a little bit of what that will mean for the
overall bullpen planning now of this team. Again, I think
that there's enough depth for the Dodgers to be able
to navigate this, and who knows, maybe in certain spots
we'll see what this means later on down the line.
Does does Glass now pop out there for an appearance
(28:24):
here and there. But I think that the success of
the Dodgers in the especially in the NLCS, I think
was predicated largely on the fact that very few pitchers
had to touch the ball. Their starters got so deep
that the bullpen did almost didn't have an opportunity to
become a problem. And I think it's going to have
to be a similar situation here to where the starters
(28:46):
need to go deep. And I think this now feeds
into what we're talking about with the Toronto Blue Jays.
If they're able to work deeper at bats, if they're
able to force the starters to leave after six innings
instead of seven, then you have to cover three more
outs of the bullpen, and then you're giving the Dodger
bullpen a chance to become a negative impact on this
series if you're the Dodger. So I'll be curious to
(29:08):
me to see not just in Game one, how many
runs this score against now, but how many how many
pitches can they make him have to work through early?
If you could, if you get a high pitch count
Blakes Now, then all of a sudden, the Dodger bullpen
needs to be relied on a bit more, and I
think that's what could swing the series into Toronto's favor.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, John Rossi
is our guest. You know, I was thinking you were
talking about you like Toronto game one, and you brought
up a lot of good reasons why, And then I
was thinking again out loud, is I get the rust thing.
But if you're the Dodgers, and it's better off to
(29:51):
start on the road that way, if you just get
a split, you have home field advantage when you come
back home. But the Blue Jays have been great on
the road, right, Look what they did Seattle on the road.
They've been They've been really really good in the road.
Is there any difference in your mind in these venues
and the ultimate and the outcomes.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah, it's a great question. I think that Number one,
the Jays were able to play at Dodger Stadium this
year already once, and so I think that they don't.
Maybe the mystique and the and and the intimidation factor,
if you will, of playing at Dodger Stadium is probably
not as great for them as it would have been
if they hadn't been out there. Dodger Stadium is a
(30:30):
great environment. Toronto was one of the loudest stadiums I've
ever heard in my life with Finger at that home run.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Seattle, by the way, was also very raucous. I don't
think the Jays are going to experience a more a
more raucous or more hostile environment than what they experienced
in Seattle already.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And they all they also went through Yankee Stadium. So
I mean, with all the respect to Dodger Stadium, which
is a great place to play and loud, I don't
think it's gonna be any for the Jays and what
they've already experienced in New York and in Seattle. I
think that they've already gone through a couple quality teams.
They've already gone through a couple of difficult venues. They
split the two games in New York and they took
(31:12):
two out of three in Seattle, so they've shown they
can win games on the road. They're also a really
good home team during the course of the year. This
is a very close series. I think that those that
believe it's going to be a sweep for the Dodgers,
I just think that they're kind of missing how good
the Jays have been. They're also missing the quality of
(31:34):
the postseason type baseball of the Jays play, and part
of that is building rallies. I think one thing that
the Jays did better than the Mariners during the ALCS
was they would build a rally where it would be walk, single, double,
another base hit. They could build in a bunt. Where
the Mariners were very much home run dependent. The Jays,
(31:54):
while the biggest sing of their season was a home
run with Springer, they were also able to build rallies,
and that, to me is something that I think will
serve them very very well against the Dodgers. I think
we're gonna see two great atmospheres. Dodger Stadium, to me,
is still my favorite venue in sports. It's magic, especially
when you're there five o'clock Pacific time game, the sun's
(32:15):
reflecting off the San Gabriel's. You realize that God intended
for baseball, we played at that exact place at that
exact time, and you're just grateful to be there. So
there's gonna be that magic that exists. But I think
what they've got at Rogers Center. Now it's become a
state of the art venue. In the last couple of
years they've renovated it. The players love it there. It's
a true ballpark feel now, more than just a stadium.
(32:38):
Of course, once upon a time they shared it with
the Toronto Argonauts the CFL. It is now a true
baseball stadium, Doug, and I think it's gonna be a
very worthy site for Game one of the World Series
here this weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
John, you're the lucky one, right, you get to cover
this thing. It's gonna be so much fun, and it
is Canada versus LA, and it's gonna be really exciting.
Thanks so much for being our guests. We look forward
to listening you doing the World Series and talk with
you more on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
All the best, Doug, very best wishes for the Streak
College Hoop season two. It's a wonderful time of here,
my friend. All the best, Wigions to YouTube.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
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Speaker 1 (33:18):
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(33:39):
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Speaker 5 (34:00):
Dan Byer, Today's game is for Better or Worse. Nothing
is worse than the Dolphs than the Dolphins. Making a
graphic on X that Tua tongue of Iloa is available
for media availabilities. They made a graphic for it, but
you'll get to decipher on what is better or worse
for a couple of these topics. Topic number one for
(34:21):
Better or Worse NBA Network NBC versus CBS, Ooh, the
Wayback Machine.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
CBS is better. Brent Musburger. Dick Stockton called the.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Games Pat O'Brien.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yes, people forget how good CBS was back in the day.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
All right, For better or worse Doug Pro Bowl style
after the super Bowl or before the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Or never, never, I will go before the super Bowl
once football, Once the super Bowl is done, We're done
with football until the draft.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
For better or worse? Doug doubleheader this week? The NBA
one we got last night or the NFL one we
got Monday night? What was better? What was worse?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
M wait, what was worse? The NBA was better, The
NBA was great. I mean you even said your Seahawks
fan like that game was a mess. The games last
night were good, were well played, well broadcast, well competed close.
NBA was better than the NFL this week?
Speaker 6 (35:32):
All right?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
In a hidden gem here for better or worse? The
red accent on uniforms, the Dodgers in their red numbers
or the Blue Jays and their red.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Maple leaf Dodgers in the red numbers.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
It is a classic.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Look better, better, and that's game time.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Get out there and press.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
That was the press, It was actually game time. But
the press is fine too.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's all right, it's oh geez whatever, Yeah, all right,
here's we're gonna do. We're gonna do the Midway coming
up next. Okay, what is what's the most intriguing storyline
about the NBA this upcoming season. We'll give all of
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