September 29, 2025 • 36 mins
Doug talks about the Cowboys "win' over the Packers Sunday night as the game finished in a tie. Doug weighs in on the choice of Bad Bunny for the halftime act at the Super Bowl. Doug welcomes former Chargers and Raiders GM Tom Telesco onto the show to discuss the Ravens, Chargers and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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a crazy weekend of college football. Another firing in high
major college football, and I don't even know if we
have time to get to it today because baseball playoffs
are a day away from starting. The playoffs are in
fact set and oh yeah, by the way, crazy day
in the National Football League. We've we've done this before
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with the Cowboys. We did it week one and now
we've we've learned in week three, which is what have
we learned? What do we learn? The Cowboys aren't as
bad as we thought, or maybe it's the momentum of
a game, or maybe the other team is not as
good as we thought. But last night was just a
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wild game, just a wild game. And if you had
the assumption that was gonna be a blowout, and early
on it looked like it might be a blowout, never fear.
The Packers' ability to keep a game that should have
been a blowout close is here. And then you factor
in that Micah Parsons is playing for the Packers and
not the Cowboys, and it was a huge part of
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the discussion. And then you factor in that Ceedee Lamb
wasn't playing for the Cowboys, and you're like this, this
shouldn't be close. After the game one in which the
Cowboys won forty to forty, right, we can all is that? Okay?
We all okay? Saying that Cowboys won forty to forty,
they won a game that was tied. Here's Jerry Jones,
owner and general manager of the Cowboys, talking about the game.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I don't want to splay. That game was probably a
great game for the NFL as far as the showcase
for the game and competition, because you had outstanding quarterback play,
you had some very talented people out there playing. You
certainly had one of the most expensive players in the
history of the NFL out there playing. And so I
guess everybody was going to take a look tonight and
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decide to seet.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Work all there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's very simple, right, Dak was indispensable in my mind
right now, and so yes, and Michael was.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
When Michael wasn't, I would can we just we haven't
seen it in the playoffs and especially consistency in the playoffs.
But if we're through having four weeks of the season,
are we okay? Collectively as a bunch of guys that
watch football, that's what we are, okay. I don't know
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anybody who watches as much football as Dan Bayer does.
I watch a ton of football. I know that Jay
Stu watches a lot of football on Sundays, and Sam
watches WNBA and football. Right I think Jay Stu probably
mixes in baseball more than the rest of us, especially
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Dodger baseball. I obviously watch a lot of my own
college basketball team, But we watch a lot of football,
are we okay? If we're critical of Jerry Jones for
a lot of things, he has been his reason behind
hiring Brian Schottneimer, his reason behind moving off of Micah Parsons,
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his reason behind a lot of things is I got
Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is elite, and though we don't
have it in the playoffs, though we don't have championships,
I actually think the guy's right from this standpoint. Right like,
had he hired a different coach, that would have been
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a different coordinator, and a different coordinator who knows. If
Dak looks comfortable. Dak looks like he has complete and
total command. He looks more athletic and lighter than he
did going back to last year, and he looks like
one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL. Byro
you okay with saying that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That Dek looks like a top five quarterback?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, so far through four weeks of the season, and
essentially again, I don't know if you want to go
through numbers of who looks, you know, whatever, but I
would say that if Jerry's right about anything, he is
right about Dak Prescott so.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Far, I will I will just say this because I've
never had a problem with Dak at all, and I
think I've actually been more pro Dak than anti Dak.
So I think last night was what we he saw
what Dak Prescott could do. I'm along those lines.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
With you, okay, Sam.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Last night I looked at Dak and his performance and
I'm like, you know what this this year so far
and then his past seasons.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I just look at him as like the industry standard.
Like he is.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He is a quarterback who should be paid what he's paid.
Maybe he's not the flashiest all the time, but he
is like he is, He's the standard. That's how you
should play quarterback. I don't know if I put him
top five, maybe he floats around in there, but he
is the industry standard in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Jay.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Still, I'm gonna answer your question of the question, would
you be surprised, I don't know who they played this week,
would you be surprised if he did a head scratching
a bad decision in the next game and we're in
a week we're talking about him being the dumb crap
because like the thing with Dak Prescott to me, has
always been consistency. When he's been healthy, he does he
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goes up and down. So we're talking about him after
a really good game. He seems to have had a
couple good games in a row here. But the thing is,
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't do well in
the next game and we're talking about the weird decision
making and the interception or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Would it surprise me. It would not, because that's actually
kind of par for the course for most NFL quarterbacks.
And remember they're coming off a loss against the Bears
where they did not play well and he had two interceptions. Right,
I thought he was. He was obviously good against the Giants.
He was really good against the Eagles. So if you say, hey,
out of four games, he's played well in three of them,
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my expectations as the industry standard would be same thing.
Coming up now they have three or four on the road, Jets, Panthers,
Broncos in the road, Commanders at home. Even if you
go in this five game stretch, would it surprise me? No?
It would probably impress me. Though if he backed up
this performance with another outstanding performance.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
So then he's not top five, right, because you expect
a more consistent quarterback in the top five.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
H yeah, yeah, So who are the top five quarterbacks? Though, right,
we'd all have I think we'd all have Mahomes, although
Mahomes hasn't been great all year, but some of it
is he didn't have weapons to throw two all year, right,
Josh Allen, I think where everybody's okay putting him there.
I would put Herbert there based upon four weeks of
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the season, but Herbert was not good yesterday. Part of
the reason was as good was he had no protection.
So who else are we? Lamar has been good but
bad and fourth quarters and now he's hurt and they've lost.
So who else are we we're putting in that list?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I think Burrow's always two or three, right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Sure, but he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And you're talking first four weeks of the season. Top
five quarterback play, Yeah, yeah. I think the point is
is that he's definitely in the top ten, and right
now it leads the NFL in passing yardage, So there's
that aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I would say through four games of the season, we
can we can all say like he may we may
carry pass biases against him and that's fair. But if
you'd say, through four games of the season he hasn't
looked like a top five quarterback, you'd you're just holding
the past against him too much. And and and again,
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what was Jerry's logic? Jerry's logic was last year and
signing him first was he's the most valuable you have
to have Dak. He did that. And then Jerry's logic
in in hiring Brian Schottenheimer was that offense is working,
he likes it, he's happy, he's stable, he knows it.
Let's let's let's fall there and then And I don't
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know if this was really his logic with Michael Parsons
or if this is just something that he's come upon,
which is Hey, part of the reason I didn't want
to sign Michael Parsons that big deal was I'm already
paying Dak Prescott more than anybody else at quarterback. I
don't need to be doing that with two different guys.
And so if I have to check between one, I'm
gonna choose Dak. And I think he made the right decision.
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That's my takeaway. Do I think you could have gotten
both done? Yes? Do I think he's making an excuse
for it, of course, But I also think that Dak
Prescott as a as a quarterback and a leader, if
you found an offense that works for him, Now you
have two first round picks, you free some money up
for future years rebuilding around everything else. Isn't as hard,
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isn't as difficult as finding that quarterback? Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yes, Dan, you know it's funny because I'm just I'm
looking at I'm watching a highlight package now of last night,
and I think that Jerry made all the right decisions.
But also these decisions are made like via Jerry, And
it's funny because I'm seeing Micah Parsons on the screen
just as much as I'm seeing Jerry Jones. And Jerry
Jones is on the set of Sunday Night Football in
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America last night talking with the whole thing. So whether
or it works out in the long term or not,
and I think in the short term it's worked out
for Dallas, and Jerry keeps on saying in the long term,
they've got those picks. Man. That deal is is right
to the wheelhouse for Jerry because he's the focus of attention.
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And now when we're you know, waxing poetically or most
of us are about Dak. It's more about Jerry, like
as crazy as it is, and don't know how good
the Cowboys are after a miserable week in week three,
but even after a tie, I think we're looking like
Jerry and the Cowboys at least are winners right now.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Sure, Sure, that's the beat. That's why I say they
won last night forty to forty. They won last night
forty forty. Here's Matt Lafleur talking about how he was
not at all pleased with the result.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Obviously it didn't come down here to tie a football game,
but that's what happened. Too many critical mistakes that led
to that tie. Give Dallas credit. They did a great
job offensively, you know, moving the ball down the field.
But there's a lot of things that we all have
to clean up. Its started with myself. I mean, we're
trying to be aggressive at the end of the half
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and that that really bit us in the butt.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, end of the half and end of game and
end of overtime all but bit them. Here's the floor.
We're talking about the clumsy clock management at the end
of the game, which caused them to have to tie.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
That just goes to the level of detail where we're
not where we need to be. There's twenty eight seconds left,
we call a play to take a shot.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
To the end zone. They played cover two.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
We end up checking the ball down, so we have
it on the ball call to send everybody to the
end zone. And we knew that there. I mean, we
use the turmo zone saying that it's got to go
out of bounds or end zone.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Obviously with time remaining and.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Just the operation was just way too slow, Like I
don't know if our guys didn't know where in two
minutes or what. But ultimately the communication has got to
get better. Myself to Jordan, Jordan to the hotel. And
that's that's the bottom line.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trade. It's a bad,
tough look. You know, we're you're sitting there at the
end of the game, and here's guys that have been
they you've worked together before, you've played in the playoffs before,
you've played in close games with Kevin before, and they
look disorganized, And I get that it's really this season,
and I get that it's crazy. Maybe you didn't expect
to be in that position. I commend Lafour. Like Lafour
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is not pointing fingers, He's like, hey, I got to
be better. They got to know what we're in. You know,
these are automatics. Really disappointing two games for the Packers
who started out like a house of fire and felt
like they went through the motions last week and got
beat And obviously you give up a block field goal
last week, a blockfield goal this week, and that ends
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up being the difference in both those games.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
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Speaker 1 (12:49):
App Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco will
join us after the update and we'll get his thoughts
on question like this, like, uh, what are you think's
going on with the Ravens. A lot of injuries now,
Lamar Jackson tugs his hamstring. Here's John Harbaugh after the game.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
I'm concerned, but I'm not overwhelmed by it.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
You know.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
The three losses are gainst probably three of the top
teams in the league, for sure, you know, and that's
just the hand we've been dealt. But it doesn't really matter.
We've got to We've gotta win the next game, and
then once you win the next game, then you have
a chance to start stacking some wins. And that's what
we've got to do, big picture wise, but small picture wise.
We got to do a great job of putting together
a great game plan and a great practice and then
a great game.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, and they got to know who's gonna be on
their team, who's gonna be who's gonna be playing, who's
gonna be playing. Uh, I'm not gonna bail on the
on the Ravens. That'd be silly, especially when you look
at that division. Right, Bengals don't have Burrow Browns. I
know they had a huge win over the Packers last week,
but there's still the Browns and the Steelers. It feels
like it's coming together, but it's hard to tell if
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it's coming together because they played the Vikings, are so
depleted by injury and have a rookie quarterback. You heard
that intro song, so Bad Bunny is playing it at halftime.
I want to make sure this is clear. I want
to be consistent. Okay, before you complain about Bad Bunny
and you go I don't know any of those songs.
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I don't either. Guess what. They're not designed for us. Okay,
it's not meant for us.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
That freaking voodoo music.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Sure, but we're not We're all gonna watch the super
Bowl if there was no halftime show, right, So they
have to find somebody who all the sponsors agree with
that works. And then they gotta find somebody who can
bring the biggest audience that wouldn't normally watch through watch
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up until halftime of an NFL game. That's the logic.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Behind I hate that song.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I got it, but I that's a logic bind. Once
we understand that logic that remember, whether it's I think
Apple has to agree with it. Right there, the title sponsor,
I don't know if Pepsi still does the halftime show
whatever this year is that NBC is doing the game.
So NBC has to be on board. Can't be somebody
who NBC doesn't want. All these corporate partners have to
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come to Okay, And then when they're trying to find
the right group, band, singer, performer, generally the plan is
who can we get that people who don't traditionally like
to watch NFL games will watch that way we bring
more people because everybody who likes to watch NFL games,
or even partially like to watch NFL games, they're gonna
watch anyway.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
That seems to make sense to me what you just said.
At the same time, there's a I don't know who
the target is, Like even Jay z and like his
announcement was like Benito's been great for Puerto Rico. Okay,
I don't know what that has to do with his
legitimacy for being the halftime performer. I think Kendrick Lamar
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got similar pushback in that a lot of people aren't
familiar with his music. Ken Mar has has won like Grammys,
He's won like Pulitzers, like he's a genius. I don't
know what bad bunny bring. What what audience does he
bring to this thing? Is it your twelve year old daughter,
is it your twenty one year old half big college
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student or.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think I think women, and I think, uh Latino,
that would be my guess.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
He's got three Grammys, eleven Latin Grammys, so I mean
he's very popular. But yeah, it's at least Kendrick Lamar,
Like Kendrick Lamar is an American. I mean, he's wraps in English.
I mean, that's just gonna probably reach more people. I
would think Puerto Rico obviously if part of the US
in a way, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But yeah, twelve year olds to bring him in.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Well again, who what? What's sixty five million latinos in
the United States? Sixty five million? Sixty five million. There's
your answer, and yeah, and excuse younger, and excuse, excuse
latin hope makes complete sense to me.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I think Jason, though, has always been on the point
that like the NFL do this stuff, like the go
play games in other countries and then they'll do like
the halftime show like this, And Jason, when you say that,
like you're kind of worried about the actual NFL audience
being turned off and isolated and alienated.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Doesn't work that way, though. Everybody's still going to watch
the Super Bowl. Dan, you had something, you looked, you
had something you want to add.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Go no, go ahead, that's totally fine.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
No, it was a joke.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
No, No, I don't even know what it was.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh, okay again, I understand what you're saying, but like,
are you really going to do you everybody says.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I won't watch here, you will yeah, the anger will
burn off. People will watch.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
There's no anger. You're like, he will. It's the last
type show. You don't want to watch it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You don't watch right now, there is resentment.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
If you don't want to watch it, you don't watch it.
Yeah right, you're like, Okay, I'll watched the second half.
I'm gonna go and take a walk, I'm gonna go
drink a beer. I'm gonna go to the restroom. Whatever.
It's not designed for you, designed for your wife, your girlfriend,
your children, and especially a predominantly Latin fan base that
that probably is sitting there going like, hey, we're this
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is one of the biggest most supportive fan bases in
the NFL, and what do we get, right, what do
we get nada? So yeah, I think it's the college student.
I think it's the high school student. I think it's
the Latin fan and the Latin viewer and even you know,
Latin females that are like, I'd never watch the Super Bowl,
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Well now you might.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Doesn't it feel though, like a second, third, or fourth choice,
Like so as they announced that, I thought, oh Taylor
Swift turned it down. It's kind of like those when
you see those casts of movies and you're like, oh,
Meryl Street turned it down, So of course Renee Russo
is going to star in that nineties movie.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
For the fifth time. Uh yeah, it was it pointed
out or proven that Taylor Swift turned it down this year.
I've not heard in the last news cycle because last
year when they announced that, they announced it week one
of the NFL season and it got completely overshadowed. And
so this was like week four with all of those
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remember those Taylor Swift Easter eight things from the New
Heights podcast, And I just wonder if negotiations broke down
and they're like, all right, we can't come to a deal.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah, it's like Taylor is not going to do it.
Could we go back to Adele?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Adele said, if she's a second choice, she's not going
to do it. We got this lest that that's.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Literally how literally how it works though, how it works.
Did Gloria Stefan ever do the halftime show?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I don't think so. I don't know. It hasn't been
in the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Anybody know, Sam did, Glory, did Glorious Stephan Let's just
say sorry, yeah, Stefan do the halftimes show?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Looks like nineteen ninety two and then with nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Five, Rhythm is Gonna Get You, Rhythm is Going.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Appeared several times a year halftime shot.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yes, but Jay stew like, you're right, that's how it works.
That's kind of how it always works, you know. And
and why would you go get Taylor Swift? Why women
girls love her? Right? And then Evel was like, eh,
not for us. Who is the other one? You said, oh, Adele,
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same thing. It's not our target demo. Right. It just
feels weird because the dude and they're like, well, I
don't I don't know the songs. Hey, you know what
if you don't know that any of the bad bunny
songs get in line, neither do I. But it's like
every time you watch every year when you watch the Grammys, like,
I don't know any of this music. Turn it down.
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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show in the Fox Sports Radio
and we are so honored to be joined by Tom Telesco,
former general manager of the Chargers and the Raiders. He
joins us for his weekly visit here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's go with the National Games and we'll go kind
of in reverse We'll reverse engineer it right, Cowboys Packers again.
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On paper, this is one of those why would this
be close? Right? Cowboys haven't stopped anybody all year. Then offensively,
where they've been really good, they didn't have Cede Lamb,
and early on it looked like Packers were the dominant team.
Ends up being a forty forty tie. What's wrong with
the Packers defense?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
We'll say you what first, you know, with the game,
I was thinking the same thing, that this could go,
you know, blowout pretty hard on green Bay side. And
then it's funny because I just I just read a
book recently about the nineteen sixty at Harvard Yale season,
and it was here that Yale was a huge favorite
in the game and Harvard came back there like a
huge fourth quarter come back tie at the game and
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game ending a tie, and the headline in the Student
Harbor student newspaper was Harvard BTL twenty nine to twenty nine.
And that's the kind of way it felt about the
game yesterday with Dallas and green Bay. I mean, the
tie for Dallas is actually I mean, you don't really
count world victories, but it kind of is considering they
were a pretty big underdog going into the game. But
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to me, the biggest thing, like Dak Prescott continues to
show when he's healthy he's one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And I know there's always a magnifying
glass on him trying to pick out the flaws, and
everybody has their flaws. But you know, he played out
a good defense with Green Bay and he did it
with a banged up offensive line, an average run game,
and then missing Ceedee Lamb, which I think was it
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should have been a bigger deal than it was because
with Green Bay you asked, like, what's the problem with
their defense or their front sevens outstanding? The one hole
that they've had and they have right now, and he
saw it going into the year, was the corner position.
You know, are they good enough at corner to take
this defense where it needs to go. They've got two
predominantly nickel corners are playing outside now with Nate Hobbs
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and DeShawn Nixon, and those two guys are excellent Nichols
as outside corners, they're still finding their feet. They're not
quite there yet. And they got Javon Bullard playing nickel,
who's you know, kind of a safety slash corner and
you know those guys they had a hard time against
the Cowboys receivers and now it was without Ceede Lambs.
That's a bit of a concern. But the end of Cowboys,
the Packers are really good. They're gonna be fine in
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the end. Like every every team has its weaknesses. But
I just thought Dak Prescott was amazing in the game.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, I mean, it does feel like their faith in
Dak is being rewarded right that forever. You know, Jerry's
trying to tell us he's in league quarterback and we
all roll our eyes. What's what's better about Dak this
year than in previous years.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
He's healthy, he's healthy for you know, this year as
opposed to the last couple. But he's doing a lot
of the same things he's done in prior years. You know,
he's very accurate with the football. He's got good enough arms.
Drength just's not a cannon, but certainly good enough. He's accurate.
And to me that they thing with Dak. He's just
a tremendous leader and he has the ability to pull
the players along with him and really lead. And I
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got a chance to see that we had scrimmaged and
practice at joint practice with the Cowboys twice. So being
on the practice field and watching how he operated with
the offense and operated with the coaches, I thought was
really really impressive. And you can see that with that team,
like his teammates believe in him offense and defense. So
you know, I just thought he did a great He's
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done this before, but obviously the last couple of years
he had some injury that's kind of slowed him down
a little bit. He could still get out and move
the pocket when he has to, but I thought he
played excellent last.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Night Stell Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Obviously,
now Lamar is hurt, but previously that what's wrong with Baltimore.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Well, it's a lot of injuries right now. And you know,
going into this season, you know, I am probably some
others just felt like, you know, to me, they had
the best roster in the NFL. I thought that, you know,
if you want to pick some holes, I thought they
some depth on the defensive line. And you know, maybe
that's a bigger hole than I had anticipated, because that's
showing up right now on defense. But they've just got
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so many injuries that they're trying to get past. And
then offensively, they just to me they have to be
more than just Derrick Henry and Veay Flowers. So the
last couple of weeks you've seen Andrews the teddand get
more involved, which they have to do. But I do
think they need to spread the ball around a little
bit more to the receivers. Like last yesterday, Hopkins had
one target, Bateman had two targets. So and this was
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in a game where they were down early and had
to throw to get back into the game. So they
have to weather the storm on defense right now. With
the amount of injuries I have, I saw, I just
saw it before I came on with you that Marlon
Humphrey has a calf injury. That's never good for a
corner because there's those ten to linger. But I will
say this is you know, the this is where consistency
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at the head coach really matters. And they've had issues
like this early in the season before and usually John
Harlough can get a figure it out, and that's where
they're what they're gonna have to do right now.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
How Dan Rodgers look to.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
You, he looked out standing and but to me, better
than what he looked is really what Arthur Smith did
with the offense. I mean they finally they ran the
ball much better. And I do think that offensive line
is built to run the ball, probably better than mass protection.
So to me, what I saw Arthur Smith do is,
you know, if we're if we're going to be leaky
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and pass protection get we need to get the ball
out extremely quick. So the ball came out fast, five
percentage throws and gave all the receivers run after catch opportunities.
And with with Aaron Rodgers, like, there's nobody better with
ball placement to put it on a receiver in a
spot we can catch the ball, run and get some
yards after contact, run some yards after catch, and then
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also making that those back shoulder throws. There's nobody better
that that can do that, So that can kind of
make up for their lack of pass protection with what
they're going to have to do. And he's so accurate
with the football and the receivers made plays for him.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Stug Gollig Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco,
former general manager Chargers Raiders, joining us on the program.
Liam Cohen gets accused of sign stealing by the San
Francisco forty nine ers, most notably their defense. According to
Robert Sala, who also just happens to be the former
Jets head coach, what's going on there?
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Yeah, pretty pretty cool little side story from from yesterday.
In the end, it won't mean a whole lot. But
I do agree with what Shanahan said, like, you know,
if you're doing it legally, why you're so sensitive about
the subject. But this is why I don't understand, is,
you know, defensive coordinators have had coach of player redo
communication in usually the linebacker in his helmet since two
(27:38):
thousand and eight, so you know, there's no signals that
are needed. You you radio in your call to your linebacker,
and most NFL teams huddle it's a huddle league anyways,
and the linebacker then gives the call to the rest
of the defense. So didn't quite understand why would even
come up in the press conference at San Francisco. They
must have been worried about it a little bit, But
my question being why even signaling and all, because you
(28:00):
don't have to. And by the way that two thousand
and eight, when this came in, it's there is some
significant significance of that because Spikey was in two thousand
and seven. Now, the Patriots did it illegally with video
and Cape signals and even broke it down in game.
But you know, to do it the old fashioned way,
which is basically your eyes. For some times it's binoculars
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and a pen and paper. That's totally legal. And I
was a former pro scout and that was one of
my jobs on the road when I was advancing team
was with to get their signals and do it, you know,
the legal way, obviously, And you know that for me,
this is way before they had the coach a player
defensive radio system because once that came in, the signals
basically went away. But the funny part is the defensive
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coordinators they're kind of are notorious and certainly were notorious
for never changing their signals, like not using multiple signal
signal callers and the sidelines. You know, you know who's
live or don't know who's live, for not blocking their signals.
And this is you know, way back when, but a
lot of guys just didn't do a very good job
of kind of blocking them. It's not hard, but you know,
(29:02):
we used to have a book on a lot of
certain defensive coordinators when with the Colts. So, but on
both sides of this is probably just more talk than
anything else. If they shouldn't affect the game much. But
I just thought it was interesting to watch yesterday.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Okay, so is it your opinion, because the Patriots defense was, Hey,
we film all this stuff all the time anyway, why
can't we film the signals being sent in corresponding with
with with the plays being played?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Do you do you that's just go ahead?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
No, no, go go ahead. That's just what no.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
I just I say, that's that's just been been the
rule for as own as I've been in the league,
that you can everybody will try and steal signals what
they can, but but you just couldn't use any any
electronic surveillance or videotaping of signals. That's just that's just
part of the rules of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Okay, But should but should they be able to?
Speaker 9 (29:55):
I don't think so. I mean to me that that
takes it to a second level, you know, with whatever
Michigan did, I mean to have have cameras on the
sideline shooting the other defensive coordinator, to have a camera
up in the press box shooting the other defensive coordinator
and then trying to break it down in game. To me,
that's just way too much. Look, if you can do
it with your eyes, with binoculars, with pen and paper,
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that's that's fine. But in the end it doesn't really
matter anymore because offense and defense both have player to
coach or coach the player communication system, so there's really
no need for a whole lot of signaling, except if
you're in a two minutes row that sometimes because you're
not huddling, you have to signal to your dbs. But
all you got to do is change your signals. I
mean these you know there's you've got to be smart
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enough to do that, and then you don't have a problem.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Uh the chargers kind of quickly here chargers, you know
now Joe Alt gets hurt and uh, justin Herbert couldn't
get couldn't get comfortable all day. How hard is that
to fix on the fly when all of a sudden,
now you're offensive line, your your two tackles, ranger, it's.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
Going to be difficult in Minnesota going through the same thing.
I mean, sometimes you can weather an injury or two,
but when you're when you hit like three injuries on
the offensive line, it's just hard to have that much step,
which the Chargers don't have right now to catch up now.
Luckily with Joe Walt, you know, hopefully that's done a
long term injury. Makai becked in the guard he'll be
back at some point soon. Looks like only you know,
(31:19):
the only season endors we Shaan Slater, But they're gonna
have to try and piece together and the time being.
I thought a big takeaway yesterday was the rookie O'maron Hampton.
He's a stud. I mean, he's never done at first contact.
He just punishes tacklers, but then he's got some breakaway
speed if the space is there. So we're probably gonna
see a lot more at him moving forward because he can.
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You know, if you keep pounding with him, that can
slow down to rush a little bit. Throw a couple
of screens slow some people down. But you know, flip
side that is. You know, the Giants have a really
really impressive front seven, especially a front four, and they
controlled the game, which they should have against what was
left on the Chargers offensive line.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Hey, the Packers got called they were at like the
one inch line or six inch line. And they got
called for a ball adjustment where the where the center
just kind of readjusted and moved the ball slightly forward.
Have you ever seen that called there?
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Yeah, I've seen a called usually, uh you know on
a fourth and one when you're either going quarterbacks make
or touch push, you see the centers kind of move
the ball forward. You see long stampers do it sometimes.
My sense is they probably gave him a warning before that.
He may have done it in the game earlier. I'm
not sure it's Obviously it's not called very often. You
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don't see it, but look if it's if it's fourth
down and you know, in a foot and you've stretched
it out six more inches, that gives that center because
the way he would line up, you'd line up closer
to the ball and then kind of stretch it out.
There's definitely an advantage that's there. So I thought that
was a good call by the officials.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
He's Tom Telesco. He joined us every week here on
the Doug Gottlap Show. Tom great stuff, awesome, insight, really
appreciates being our guest.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Awesome Thanks Doug.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
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the game.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Bless you, Dan, Yeah, thank you. Take a little out
of me.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal. That
there are only two undefeated teams remaining in the NFL
four weeks into the season.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It's a big deal. Only that I felt like, I know,
the charges are banged up, but that's a game you
gotta get. They had plenty of opportunities get it.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Those teams are the Eagles and Bills right now at
four and oh, big deal, little deal, or no deal
that Aaron Rodgers outdueled Carson Wentz in Dublin.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I was a big deal, only not that outdueling. Just
I thought Aaron Rodgers looked good. He looked he looked better,
and they look like they kind of figured his His
coach looked like he figured out how to call play
from as well. Look better. That's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I just want to quick have a caveat here, Sam,
is your love and hate gonna deal with college football
at all? Yes? Is it going to deal with what
happened in Happy Valley? No? Okay, big deal, little deal
or no deal that James Franklin lost another game against
the top ten team. He's four and twenty one in
his career.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Big deal, had the lead at home. Got to figure
out a way to you know, gotta figure out I
got to find a way there.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Well, they were down too much the down, Yeah, and
then they came backfense was so blah.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
The first half part of it is Organ's good. But
it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, Yeah, it was a big deal. They should have
gone for two. Maybe at the end I'd be a
little deal of no deal that Arkansas fired Sam Pittman
after a fifty six thirteen lost to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I think it's a big deal. But I think it's
a big deal because I just none of this makes
any sense to fire a guy four games in the year,
three games in the year, It just doesn't. Even if
it was like, all right, they're gonna move on from him,
there's nothing accomplished other than all those guys can go
in the portal and can leave right now. It doesn't
(35:37):
mean it will happen, but it potentially could happen, and
it just it makes it so that every guy on
that roster is looking elsewhere everyone It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Do you think though, with that they looked at saw
Bobby Petrino was on the coaching staff and they're like,
this does make it a little easier maybe because he was.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Sure by Petrino fired the defensive coordinator because he doesn't
want anybody to challenge his authority, right or anybody else
make a pick.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
He cleaned house a little bit after that.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Did he send them on on motorcycles? Like do that?
Like like back to back, you're gone, your bike's outside
the way, you'll fy it. Sorry to cut you off, Doug. Okay,
we're out of time. That's game time.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Game.
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a crazy weekend of college football. Another firing in high
major college football, and I don't even know if we
have time to get to it today because baseball playoffs
are a day away from starting. The playoffs are in
fact set and oh yeah, by the way, crazy day
in the National Football League. We've we've done this before
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with the Cowboys. We did it week one and now
we've we've learned in week three, which is what have
we learned? What do we learn? The Cowboys aren't as
bad as we thought, or maybe it's the momentum of
a game, or maybe the other team is not as
good as we thought. But last night was just a
(01:30):
wild game, just a wild game. And if you had
the assumption that was gonna be a blowout, and early
on it looked like it might be a blowout, never fear.
The Packers' ability to keep a game that should have
been a blowout close is here. And then you factor
in that Micah Parsons is playing for the Packers and
not the Cowboys, and it was a huge part of
(01:52):
the discussion. And then you factor in that Ceedee Lamb
wasn't playing for the Cowboys, and you're like this, this
shouldn't be close. After the game one in which the
Cowboys won forty to forty, right, we can all is that? Okay?
We all okay? Saying that Cowboys won forty to forty,
they won a game that was tied. Here's Jerry Jones,
owner and general manager of the Cowboys, talking about the game.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I don't want to splay. That game was probably a
great game for the NFL as far as the showcase
for the game and competition, because you had outstanding quarterback play,
you had some very talented people out there playing. You
certainly had one of the most expensive players in the
history of the NFL out there playing. And so I
guess everybody was going to take a look tonight and
(02:37):
decide to seet.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Work all there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's very simple, right, Dak was indispensable in my mind
right now, and so yes, and Michael was.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
When Michael wasn't, I would can we just we haven't
seen it in the playoffs and especially consistency in the playoffs.
But if we're through having four weeks of the season,
are we okay? Collectively as a bunch of guys that
watch football, that's what we are, okay. I don't know
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anybody who watches as much football as Dan Bayer does.
I watch a ton of football. I know that Jay
Stu watches a lot of football on Sundays, and Sam
watches WNBA and football. Right I think Jay Stu probably
mixes in baseball more than the rest of us, especially
(03:33):
Dodger baseball. I obviously watch a lot of my own
college basketball team, But we watch a lot of football,
are we okay? If we're critical of Jerry Jones for
a lot of things, he has been his reason behind
hiring Brian Schottneimer, his reason behind moving off of Micah Parsons,
(03:54):
his reason behind a lot of things is I got
Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is elite, and though we don't
have it in the playoffs, though we don't have championships,
I actually think the guy's right from this standpoint. Right like,
had he hired a different coach, that would have been
(04:15):
a different coordinator, and a different coordinator who knows. If
Dak looks comfortable. Dak looks like he has complete and
total command. He looks more athletic and lighter than he
did going back to last year, and he looks like
one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL. Byro
you okay with saying that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That Dek looks like a top five quarterback?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, so far through four weeks of the season, and
essentially again, I don't know if you want to go
through numbers of who looks, you know, whatever, but I
would say that if Jerry's right about anything, he is
right about Dak Prescott so.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Far, I will I will just say this because I've
never had a problem with Dak at all, and I
think I've actually been more pro Dak than anti Dak.
So I think last night was what we he saw
what Dak Prescott could do. I'm along those lines.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
With you, okay, Sam.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Last night I looked at Dak and his performance and
I'm like, you know what this this year so far
and then his past seasons.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I just look at him as like the industry standard.
Like he is.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He is a quarterback who should be paid what he's paid.
Maybe he's not the flashiest all the time, but he
is like he is, He's the standard. That's how you
should play quarterback. I don't know if I put him
top five, maybe he floats around in there, but he
is the industry standard in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Jay.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Still, I'm gonna answer your question of the question, would
you be surprised, I don't know who they played this week,
would you be surprised if he did a head scratching
a bad decision in the next game and we're in
a week we're talking about him being the dumb crap
because like the thing with Dak Prescott to me, has
always been consistency. When he's been healthy, he does he
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goes up and down. So we're talking about him after
a really good game. He seems to have had a
couple good games in a row here. But the thing is,
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't do well in
the next game and we're talking about the weird decision
making and the interception or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Would it surprise me. It would not, because that's actually
kind of par for the course for most NFL quarterbacks.
And remember they're coming off a loss against the Bears
where they did not play well and he had two interceptions. Right,
I thought he was. He was obviously good against the Giants.
He was really good against the Eagles. So if you say, hey,
out of four games, he's played well in three of them,
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my expectations as the industry standard would be same thing.
Coming up now they have three or four on the road, Jets, Panthers,
Broncos in the road, Commanders at home. Even if you
go in this five game stretch, would it surprise me? No?
It would probably impress me. Though if he backed up
this performance with another outstanding performance.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
So then he's not top five, right, because you expect
a more consistent quarterback in the top five.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
H yeah, yeah, So who are the top five quarterbacks? Though, right,
we'd all have I think we'd all have Mahomes, although
Mahomes hasn't been great all year, but some of it
is he didn't have weapons to throw two all year, right,
Josh Allen, I think where everybody's okay putting him there.
I would put Herbert there based upon four weeks of
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the season, but Herbert was not good yesterday. Part of
the reason was as good was he had no protection.
So who else are we? Lamar has been good but
bad and fourth quarters and now he's hurt and they've lost.
So who else are we we're putting in that list?
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I think Burrow's always two or three, right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Sure, but he's hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
And you're talking first four weeks of the season. Top
five quarterback play, Yeah, yeah. I think the point is
is that he's definitely in the top ten, and right
now it leads the NFL in passing yardage, So there's
that aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I would say through four games of the season, we
can we can all say like he may we may
carry pass biases against him and that's fair. But if
you'd say, through four games of the season he hasn't
looked like a top five quarterback, you'd you're just holding
the past against him too much. And and and again,
(08:23):
what was Jerry's logic? Jerry's logic was last year and
signing him first was he's the most valuable you have
to have Dak. He did that. And then Jerry's logic
in in hiring Brian Schottenheimer was that offense is working,
he likes it, he's happy, he's stable, he knows it.
Let's let's let's fall there and then And I don't
(08:43):
know if this was really his logic with Michael Parsons
or if this is just something that he's come upon,
which is Hey, part of the reason I didn't want
to sign Michael Parsons that big deal was I'm already
paying Dak Prescott more than anybody else at quarterback. I
don't need to be doing that with two different guys.
And so if I have to check between one, I'm
gonna choose Dak. And I think he made the right decision.
(09:06):
That's my takeaway. Do I think you could have gotten
both done? Yes? Do I think he's making an excuse
for it, of course, But I also think that Dak
Prescott as a as a quarterback and a leader, if
you found an offense that works for him, Now you
have two first round picks, you free some money up
for future years rebuilding around everything else. Isn't as hard,
(09:29):
isn't as difficult as finding that quarterback? Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yes, Dan, you know it's funny because I'm just I'm
looking at I'm watching a highlight package now of last night,
and I think that Jerry made all the right decisions.
But also these decisions are made like via Jerry, And
it's funny because I'm seeing Micah Parsons on the screen
just as much as I'm seeing Jerry Jones. And Jerry
Jones is on the set of Sunday Night Football in
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America last night talking with the whole thing. So whether
or it works out in the long term or not,
and I think in the short term it's worked out
for Dallas, and Jerry keeps on saying in the long term,
they've got those picks. Man. That deal is is right
to the wheelhouse for Jerry because he's the focus of attention.
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And now when we're you know, waxing poetically or most
of us are about Dak. It's more about Jerry, like
as crazy as it is, and don't know how good
the Cowboys are after a miserable week in week three,
but even after a tie, I think we're looking like
Jerry and the Cowboys at least are winners right now.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Sure, Sure, that's the beat. That's why I say they
won last night forty to forty. They won last night
forty forty. Here's Matt Lafleur talking about how he was
not at all pleased with the result.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Obviously it didn't come down here to tie a football game,
but that's what happened. Too many critical mistakes that led
to that tie. Give Dallas credit. They did a great
job offensively, you know, moving the ball down the field.
But there's a lot of things that we all have
to clean up. Its started with myself. I mean, we're
trying to be aggressive at the end of the half
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and that that really bit us in the butt.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, end of the half and end of game and
end of overtime all but bit them. Here's the floor.
We're talking about the clumsy clock management at the end
of the game, which caused them to have to tie.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
That just goes to the level of detail where we're
not where we need to be. There's twenty eight seconds left,
we call a play to take a shot.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
To the end zone. They played cover two.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
We end up checking the ball down, so we have
it on the ball call to send everybody to the
end zone. And we knew that there. I mean, we
use the turmo zone saying that it's got to go
out of bounds or end zone.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Obviously with time remaining and.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Just the operation was just way too slow, Like I
don't know if our guys didn't know where in two
minutes or what. But ultimately the communication has got to
get better. Myself to Jordan, Jordan to the hotel. And
that's that's the bottom line.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trade. It's a bad,
tough look. You know, we're you're sitting there at the
end of the game, and here's guys that have been
they you've worked together before, you've played in the playoffs before,
you've played in close games with Kevin before, and they
look disorganized, And I get that it's really this season,
and I get that it's crazy. Maybe you didn't expect
to be in that position. I commend Lafour. Like Lafour
(12:17):
is not pointing fingers, He's like, hey, I got to
be better. They got to know what we're in. You know,
these are automatics. Really disappointing two games for the Packers
who started out like a house of fire and felt
like they went through the motions last week and got
beat And obviously you give up a block field goal
last week, a blockfield goal this week, and that ends
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up being the difference in both those games.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
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Speaker 1 (12:49):
App Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco will
join us after the update and we'll get his thoughts
on question like this, like, uh, what are you think's
going on with the Ravens. A lot of injuries now,
Lamar Jackson tugs his hamstring. Here's John Harbaugh after the game.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
I'm concerned, but I'm not overwhelmed by it.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
You know.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
The three losses are gainst probably three of the top
teams in the league, for sure, you know, and that's
just the hand we've been dealt. But it doesn't really matter.
We've got to We've gotta win the next game, and
then once you win the next game, then you have
a chance to start stacking some wins. And that's what
we've got to do, big picture wise, but small picture wise.
We got to do a great job of putting together
a great game plan and a great practice and then
a great game.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, and they got to know who's gonna be on
their team, who's gonna be who's gonna be playing, who's
gonna be playing. Uh, I'm not gonna bail on the
on the Ravens. That'd be silly, especially when you look
at that division. Right, Bengals don't have Burrow Browns. I
know they had a huge win over the Packers last week,
but there's still the Browns and the Steelers. It feels
like it's coming together, but it's hard to tell if
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it's coming together because they played the Vikings, are so
depleted by injury and have a rookie quarterback. You heard
that intro song, so Bad Bunny is playing it at halftime.
I want to make sure this is clear. I want
to be consistent. Okay, before you complain about Bad Bunny
and you go I don't know any of those songs.
(14:17):
I don't either. Guess what. They're not designed for us. Okay,
it's not meant for us.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
That freaking voodoo music.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Sure, but we're not We're all gonna watch the super
Bowl if there was no halftime show, right, So they
have to find somebody who all the sponsors agree with
that works. And then they gotta find somebody who can
bring the biggest audience that wouldn't normally watch through watch
(14:52):
up until halftime of an NFL game. That's the logic.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Behind I hate that song.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I got it, but I that's a logic bind. Once
we understand that logic that remember, whether it's I think
Apple has to agree with it. Right there, the title sponsor,
I don't know if Pepsi still does the halftime show
whatever this year is that NBC is doing the game.
So NBC has to be on board. Can't be somebody
who NBC doesn't want. All these corporate partners have to
(15:21):
come to Okay, And then when they're trying to find
the right group, band, singer, performer, generally the plan is
who can we get that people who don't traditionally like
to watch NFL games will watch that way we bring
more people because everybody who likes to watch NFL games,
or even partially like to watch NFL games, they're gonna
watch anyway.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
That seems to make sense to me what you just said.
At the same time, there's a I don't know who
the target is, Like even Jay z and like his
announcement was like Benito's been great for Puerto Rico. Okay,
I don't know what that has to do with his
legitimacy for being the halftime performer. I think Kendrick Lamar
(16:06):
got similar pushback in that a lot of people aren't
familiar with his music. Ken Mar has has won like Grammys,
He's won like Pulitzers, like he's a genius. I don't
know what bad bunny bring. What what audience does he
bring to this thing? Is it your twelve year old daughter,
is it your twenty one year old half big college
(16:26):
student or.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think I think women, and I think, uh Latino,
that would be my guess.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
He's got three Grammys, eleven Latin Grammys, so I mean
he's very popular. But yeah, it's at least Kendrick Lamar,
Like Kendrick Lamar is an American. I mean, he's wraps in English.
I mean, that's just gonna probably reach more people. I
would think Puerto Rico obviously if part of the US
in a way, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But yeah, twelve year olds to bring him in.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Well again, who what? What's sixty five million latinos in
the United States? Sixty five million? Sixty five million. There's
your answer, and yeah, and excuse younger, and excuse, excuse
latin hope makes complete sense to me.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I think Jason, though, has always been on the point
that like the NFL do this stuff, like the go
play games in other countries and then they'll do like
the halftime show like this, And Jason, when you say that,
like you're kind of worried about the actual NFL audience
being turned off and isolated and alienated.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Doesn't work that way, though. Everybody's still going to watch
the Super Bowl. Dan, you had something, you looked, you
had something you want to add.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Go no, go ahead, that's totally fine.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
No, it was a joke.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
No, No, I don't even know what it was.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh, okay again, I understand what you're saying, but like,
are you really going to do you everybody says.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I won't watch here, you will yeah, the anger will
burn off. People will watch.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
There's no anger. You're like, he will. It's the last
type show. You don't want to watch it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You don't watch right now, there is resentment.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
If you don't want to watch it, you don't watch it.
Yeah right, you're like, Okay, I'll watched the second half.
I'm gonna go and take a walk, I'm gonna go
drink a beer. I'm gonna go to the restroom. Whatever.
It's not designed for you, designed for your wife, your girlfriend,
your children, and especially a predominantly Latin fan base that
that probably is sitting there going like, hey, we're this
(18:27):
is one of the biggest most supportive fan bases in
the NFL, and what do we get, right, what do
we get nada? So yeah, I think it's the college student.
I think it's the high school student. I think it's
the Latin fan and the Latin viewer and even you know,
Latin females that are like, I'd never watch the Super Bowl,
(18:47):
Well now you might.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Doesn't it feel though, like a second, third, or fourth choice,
Like so as they announced that, I thought, oh Taylor
Swift turned it down. It's kind of like those when
you see those casts of movies and you're like, oh,
Meryl Street turned it down, So of course Renee Russo
is going to star in that nineties movie.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
For the fifth time. Uh yeah, it was it pointed
out or proven that Taylor Swift turned it down this year.
I've not heard in the last news cycle because last
year when they announced that, they announced it week one
of the NFL season and it got completely overshadowed. And
so this was like week four with all of those
(19:25):
remember those Taylor Swift Easter eight things from the New
Heights podcast, And I just wonder if negotiations broke down
and they're like, all right, we can't come to a deal.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah, it's like Taylor is not going to do it.
Could we go back to Adele?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
No?
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Adele said, if she's a second choice, she's not going
to do it. We got this lest that that's.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Literally how literally how it works though, how it works.
Did Gloria Stefan ever do the halftime show?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I don't think so. I don't know. It hasn't been
in the last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Anybody know, Sam did, Glory, did Glorious Stephan Let's just
say sorry, yeah, Stefan do the halftimes show?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Looks like nineteen ninety two and then with nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Five, Rhythm is Gonna Get You, Rhythm is Going.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Appeared several times a year halftime shot.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yes, but Jay stew like, you're right, that's how it works.
That's kind of how it always works, you know. And
and why would you go get Taylor Swift? Why women
girls love her? Right? And then Evel was like, eh,
not for us. Who is the other one? You said, oh, Adele,
(20:37):
same thing. It's not our target demo. Right. It just
feels weird because the dude and they're like, well, I
don't I don't know the songs. Hey, you know what
if you don't know that any of the bad bunny
songs get in line, neither do I. But it's like
every time you watch every year when you watch the Grammys, like,
I don't know any of this music. Turn it down.
(20:58):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show in the Fox Sports Radio
and we are so honored to be joined by Tom Telesco,
former general manager of the Chargers and the Raiders. He
joins us for his weekly visit here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's go with the National Games and we'll go kind
of in reverse We'll reverse engineer it right, Cowboys Packers again.
(21:20):
On paper, this is one of those why would this
be close? Right? Cowboys haven't stopped anybody all year. Then offensively,
where they've been really good, they didn't have Cede Lamb,
and early on it looked like Packers were the dominant team.
Ends up being a forty forty tie. What's wrong with
the Packers defense?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
We'll say you what first, you know, with the game,
I was thinking the same thing, that this could go,
you know, blowout pretty hard on green Bay side. And
then it's funny because I just I just read a
book recently about the nineteen sixty at Harvard Yale season,
and it was here that Yale was a huge favorite
in the game and Harvard came back there like a
huge fourth quarter come back tie at the game and
(22:01):
game ending a tie, and the headline in the Student
Harbor student newspaper was Harvard BTL twenty nine to twenty nine.
And that's the kind of way it felt about the
game yesterday with Dallas and green Bay. I mean, the
tie for Dallas is actually I mean, you don't really
count world victories, but it kind of is considering they
were a pretty big underdog going into the game. But
(22:22):
to me, the biggest thing, like Dak Prescott continues to
show when he's healthy he's one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And I know there's always a magnifying
glass on him trying to pick out the flaws, and
everybody has their flaws. But you know, he played out
a good defense with Green Bay and he did it
with a banged up offensive line, an average run game,
and then missing Ceedee Lamb, which I think was it
(22:44):
should have been a bigger deal than it was because
with Green Bay you asked, like, what's the problem with
their defense or their front sevens outstanding? The one hole
that they've had and they have right now, and he
saw it going into the year, was the corner position.
You know, are they good enough at corner to take
this defense where it needs to go. They've got two
predominantly nickel corners are playing outside now with Nate Hobbs
(23:04):
and DeShawn Nixon, and those two guys are excellent Nichols
as outside corners, they're still finding their feet. They're not
quite there yet. And they got Javon Bullard playing nickel,
who's you know, kind of a safety slash corner and
you know those guys they had a hard time against
the Cowboys receivers and now it was without Ceede Lambs.
That's a bit of a concern. But the end of Cowboys,
the Packers are really good. They're gonna be fine in
(23:25):
the end. Like every every team has its weaknesses. But
I just thought Dak Prescott was amazing in the game.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, I mean, it does feel like their faith in
Dak is being rewarded right that forever. You know, Jerry's
trying to tell us he's in league quarterback and we
all roll our eyes. What's what's better about Dak this
year than in previous years.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
He's healthy, he's healthy for you know, this year as
opposed to the last couple. But he's doing a lot
of the same things he's done in prior years. You know,
he's very accurate with the football. He's got good enough arms.
Drength just's not a cannon, but certainly good enough. He's accurate.
And to me that they thing with Dak. He's just
a tremendous leader and he has the ability to pull
the players along with him and really lead. And I
(24:07):
got a chance to see that we had scrimmaged and
practice at joint practice with the Cowboys twice. So being
on the practice field and watching how he operated with
the offense and operated with the coaches, I thought was
really really impressive. And you can see that with that team,
like his teammates believe in him offense and defense. So
you know, I just thought he did a great He's
(24:28):
done this before, but obviously the last couple of years
he had some injury that's kind of slowed him down
a little bit. He could still get out and move
the pocket when he has to, but I thought he
played excellent last.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Night Stell Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Obviously,
now Lamar is hurt, but previously that what's wrong with Baltimore.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Well, it's a lot of injuries right now. And you know,
going into this season, you know, I am probably some
others just felt like, you know, to me, they had
the best roster in the NFL. I thought that, you know,
if you want to pick some holes, I thought they
some depth on the defensive line. And you know, maybe
that's a bigger hole than I had anticipated, because that's
showing up right now on defense. But they've just got
(25:08):
so many injuries that they're trying to get past. And
then offensively, they just to me they have to be
more than just Derrick Henry and Veay Flowers. So the
last couple of weeks you've seen Andrews the teddand get
more involved, which they have to do. But I do
think they need to spread the ball around a little
bit more to the receivers. Like last yesterday, Hopkins had
one target, Bateman had two targets. So and this was
(25:30):
in a game where they were down early and had
to throw to get back into the game. So they
have to weather the storm on defense right now. With
the amount of injuries I have, I saw, I just
saw it before I came on with you that Marlon
Humphrey has a calf injury. That's never good for a
corner because there's those ten to linger. But I will
say this is you know, the this is where consistency
(25:51):
at the head coach really matters. And they've had issues
like this early in the season before and usually John
Harlough can get a figure it out, and that's where
they're what they're gonna have to do right now.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
How Dan Rodgers look to.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
You, he looked out standing and but to me, better
than what he looked is really what Arthur Smith did
with the offense. I mean they finally they ran the
ball much better. And I do think that offensive line
is built to run the ball, probably better than mass protection.
So to me, what I saw Arthur Smith do is,
you know, if we're if we're going to be leaky
(26:23):
and pass protection get we need to get the ball
out extremely quick. So the ball came out fast, five
percentage throws and gave all the receivers run after catch opportunities.
And with with Aaron Rodgers, like, there's nobody better with
ball placement to put it on a receiver in a
spot we can catch the ball, run and get some
yards after contact, run some yards after catch, and then
(26:44):
also making that those back shoulder throws. There's nobody better
that that can do that, So that can kind of
make up for their lack of pass protection with what
they're going to have to do. And he's so accurate
with the football and the receivers made plays for him.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Stug Gollig Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco,
former general manager Chargers Raiders, joining us on the program.
Liam Cohen gets accused of sign stealing by the San
Francisco forty nine ers, most notably their defense. According to
Robert Sala, who also just happens to be the former
Jets head coach, what's going on there?
Speaker 9 (27:18):
Yeah, pretty pretty cool little side story from from yesterday.
In the end, it won't mean a whole lot. But
I do agree with what Shanahan said, like, you know,
if you're doing it legally, why you're so sensitive about
the subject. But this is why I don't understand, is,
you know, defensive coordinators have had coach of player redo
communication in usually the linebacker in his helmet since two
(27:38):
thousand and eight, so you know, there's no signals that
are needed. You you radio in your call to your linebacker,
and most NFL teams huddle it's a huddle league anyways,
and the linebacker then gives the call to the rest
of the defense. So didn't quite understand why would even
come up in the press conference at San Francisco. They
must have been worried about it a little bit, But
my question being why even signaling and all, because you
(28:00):
don't have to. And by the way that two thousand
and eight, when this came in, it's there is some
significant significance of that because Spikey was in two thousand
and seven. Now, the Patriots did it illegally with video
and Cape signals and even broke it down in game.
But you know, to do it the old fashioned way,
which is basically your eyes. For some times it's binoculars
(28:21):
and a pen and paper. That's totally legal. And I
was a former pro scout and that was one of
my jobs on the road when I was advancing team
was with to get their signals and do it, you know,
the legal way, obviously, And you know that for me,
this is way before they had the coach a player
defensive radio system because once that came in, the signals
basically went away. But the funny part is the defensive
(28:41):
coordinators they're kind of are notorious and certainly were notorious
for never changing their signals, like not using multiple signal
signal callers and the sidelines. You know, you know who's
live or don't know who's live, for not blocking their signals.
And this is you know, way back when, but a
lot of guys just didn't do a very good job
of kind of blocking them. It's not hard, but you know,
(29:02):
we used to have a book on a lot of
certain defensive coordinators when with the Colts. So, but on
both sides of this is probably just more talk than
anything else. If they shouldn't affect the game much. But
I just thought it was interesting to watch yesterday.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Okay, so is it your opinion, because the Patriots defense was, Hey,
we film all this stuff all the time anyway, why
can't we film the signals being sent in corresponding with
with with the plays being played?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Do you do you that's just go ahead?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
No, no, go go ahead. That's just what no.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
I just I say, that's that's just been been the
rule for as own as I've been in the league,
that you can everybody will try and steal signals what
they can, but but you just couldn't use any any
electronic surveillance or videotaping of signals. That's just that's just
part of the rules of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Okay, But should but should they be able to?
Speaker 9 (29:55):
I don't think so. I mean to me that that
takes it to a second level, you know, with whatever
Michigan did, I mean to have have cameras on the
sideline shooting the other defensive coordinator, to have a camera
up in the press box shooting the other defensive coordinator
and then trying to break it down in game. To me,
that's just way too much. Look, if you can do
it with your eyes, with binoculars, with pen and paper,
(30:16):
that's that's fine. But in the end it doesn't really
matter anymore because offense and defense both have player to
coach or coach the player communication system, so there's really
no need for a whole lot of signaling, except if
you're in a two minutes row that sometimes because you're
not huddling, you have to signal to your dbs. But
all you got to do is change your signals. I
mean these you know there's you've got to be smart
(30:36):
enough to do that, and then you don't have a problem.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Uh the chargers kind of quickly here chargers, you know
now Joe Alt gets hurt and uh, justin Herbert couldn't
get couldn't get comfortable all day. How hard is that
to fix on the fly when all of a sudden,
now you're offensive line, your your two tackles, ranger, it's.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
Going to be difficult in Minnesota going through the same thing.
I mean, sometimes you can weather an injury or two,
but when you're when you hit like three injuries on
the offensive line, it's just hard to have that much step,
which the Chargers don't have right now to catch up now.
Luckily with Joe Walt, you know, hopefully that's done a
long term injury. Makai becked in the guard he'll be
back at some point soon. Looks like only you know,
(31:19):
the only season endors we Shaan Slater, But they're gonna
have to try and piece together and the time being.
I thought a big takeaway yesterday was the rookie O'maron Hampton.
He's a stud. I mean, he's never done at first contact.
He just punishes tacklers, but then he's got some breakaway
speed if the space is there. So we're probably gonna
see a lot more at him moving forward because he can.
(31:40):
You know, if you keep pounding with him, that can
slow down to rush a little bit. Throw a couple
of screens slow some people down. But you know, flip
side that is. You know, the Giants have a really
really impressive front seven, especially a front four, and they
controlled the game, which they should have against what was
left on the Chargers offensive line.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Hey, the Packers got called they were at like the
one inch line or six inch line. And they got
called for a ball adjustment where the where the center
just kind of readjusted and moved the ball slightly forward.
Have you ever seen that called there?
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Yeah, I've seen a called usually, uh you know on
a fourth and one when you're either going quarterbacks make
or touch push, you see the centers kind of move
the ball forward. You see long stampers do it sometimes.
My sense is they probably gave him a warning before that.
He may have done it in the game earlier. I'm
not sure it's Obviously it's not called very often. You
(32:32):
don't see it, but look if it's if it's fourth
down and you know, in a foot and you've stretched
it out six more inches, that gives that center because
the way he would line up, you'd line up closer
to the ball and then kind of stretch it out.
There's definitely an advantage that's there. So I thought that
was a good call by the officials.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
He's Tom Telesco. He joined us every week here on
the Doug Gottlap Show. Tom great stuff, awesome, insight, really
appreciates being our guest.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Awesome Thanks Doug.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
All Right, Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
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(33:29):
the game.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Bless you, Dan, Yeah, thank you. Take a little out
of me.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal. That
there are only two undefeated teams remaining in the NFL
four weeks into the season.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It's a big deal. Only that I felt like, I know,
the charges are banged up, but that's a game you
gotta get. They had plenty of opportunities get it.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Those teams are the Eagles and Bills right now at
four and oh, big deal, little deal, or no deal
that Aaron Rodgers outdueled Carson Wentz in Dublin.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I was a big deal, only not that outdueling. Just
I thought Aaron Rodgers looked good. He looked he looked better,
and they look like they kind of figured his His
coach looked like he figured out how to call play
from as well. Look better. That's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
I just want to quick have a caveat here, Sam,
is your love and hate gonna deal with college football
at all? Yes? Is it going to deal with what
happened in Happy Valley? No? Okay, big deal, little deal
or no deal that James Franklin lost another game against
the top ten team. He's four and twenty one in
his career.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Big deal, had the lead at home. Got to figure
out a way to you know, gotta figure out I
got to find a way there.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Well, they were down too much the down, Yeah, and
then they came backfense was so blah.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
The first half part of it is Organ's good. But
it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah, Yeah, it was a big deal. They should have
gone for two. Maybe at the end I'd be a
little deal of no deal that Arkansas fired Sam Pittman
after a fifty six thirteen lost to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I think it's a big deal. But I think it's
a big deal because I just none of this makes
any sense to fire a guy four games in the year,
three games in the year, It just doesn't. Even if
it was like, all right, they're gonna move on from him,
there's nothing accomplished other than all those guys can go
in the portal and can leave right now. It doesn't
(35:37):
mean it will happen, but it potentially could happen, and
it just it makes it so that every guy on
that roster is looking elsewhere everyone It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Do you think though, with that they looked at saw
Bobby Petrino was on the coaching staff and they're like,
this does make it a little easier maybe because he was.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Sure by Petrino fired the defensive coordinator because he doesn't
want anybody to challenge his authority, right or anybody else
make a pick.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
He cleaned house a little bit after that.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Did he send them on on motorcycles? Like do that?
Like like back to back, you're gone, your bike's outside
the way, you'll fy it. Sorry to cut you off, Doug. Okay,
we're out of time. That's game time.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Game.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
That's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I love that you guys are checking up on each
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