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August 27, 2025 • 28 mins

Doug talks about the Cowboys situation with Micah Parsons not having a contract extension yet and the speculation that he could be traded. Doug and the crew have some fun with news involving the Indiana Fever. Doug welcomes FOX Sports Betting Analyst Chris Fallica onto the show to handicap the first weekend of college football. Plus, Doug weighs in on the news that Tom Brady will now be able to partake in production meetings before broadcasts.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:26):
Welcome in. We got a great show for you. My
man Chris philaka part of that bear Bets podcast. Of course,
you see him on Big Noon Kickoff. He'll join us
twenty five after the hour, give you some picks for
the upcoming uh it's like five day weekend of college football.
H Plus, we'll talk some Tom Brady and his role

(00:47):
as a broadcaster this year as he's kind of flexing
his muscles, and his partial ownership of the Las Vegas Raiders.
So we got a bunch of things to get to,
but let's start with this. Living in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
it has been quite the day quite today. That's because

(01:08):
John Coon tweeted out Micah freaking Parsons in that exact way.
That's how he actually tweeted out and everybody has lost
their mind. There's even tracking of a jet that left
Milwaukee and went to Dallas with no real idea on

(01:29):
why it went to Dallas or if Micah Parsons is involved. Right,
the jet tracking thing is usually a college move. But again,
when I say college move, that's like what college fans
do when they're trying to hire a college football coach. Right,
we're a college fan. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah,
oh yeah, that's what happens when we're looking at a
college coach. We tracked the Jets, and I just continue.

(01:55):
I understand that there is some chum in the water, right,
there is some reason to believe that the Sharks are
circling and that maybe Jerry Jones would wave the white flag.
And you get to a point where you're like, well,
the Cowboys aren't going to be good anyway, why not
trade him away and then you can start over. But

(02:19):
if you have maybe the best defensive player in football
or one of the and you were close to an
agreement at one point in time, why isn't this thing done? Right?
Why isn't this thing done? And the logical reason is
just about money, right, But I think there's some egos involved,
especially some bruised ones. When you have an agent who

(02:41):
wasn't feels like he wasn't consulted or brought in on
the original contract negotiations. There are clearly other reasons. I'm
not sure how good the reasons are, but there are
definitely other reasons. And yeah, the more I look at it,
the more I'm like, hmm, are we getting to the
point of no return where you can't even play him

(03:03):
in Week one? Here's Cowboys head If he does resign,
doesn't have to have to resigning technically he's under contract
with the Cowboys. Here's Cowboys head coach Brian Schottenheimer talking
about Micah Parsons and whether or not he'd be ready
to even play when they play the Eagles week one
of the season.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
At the end of the day, as soon as he
get out there, it's great. But again, there'll be a
ramp up plan for him and when he lines up
out there to play. Do I think he would play
seventy five plays in every play? Probably not, you know,
I don't think that that's real. But I do think
that he can be very disruptive, like we all know.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, he is disruptive, and right now he's disruptive in general,
but he can be disruptive as a football player. This
is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Unfortunately,
or maybe fortunately for your football players. This is general.
This is like kind of standard operating procedure, is it?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Is?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
It?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Not like none of this is surprising to anybody who's
followed the NFL. The only thing surprising is the deal's
not done yet. And why isn't the deal done yet?
I don't, I don't, I don't know. Nobody seems to know.
You know, only that they're not talking. And when you
get to the point if you're not talking and you're
this late in the game, ooh, that doesn't look good.

(04:22):
But if he signs anywhere in this and you know,
shows up anywhere in this week, he make no mistake
about it. He's going to play. Well, we play a lot.
Maybe not that that's the destructive nature to it. That's
the crazy part about this is I understand, I understand

(04:44):
that we operate under this premise that, hey, baseball and
basketball have completely guaranteed contracts, football should as well, and
so not having guaranteed contracts somehow changes who we think
has up hand and negotiations. But I want you to
ask yourself this, in all honesty, in anyone else's real world,

(05:09):
if you have a year left, you're under contract for
a year and a gigantic rivalry game is the first
game of the season, and it's not like like, let's
not act like the Cowboys don't want to sign Marca Parsons.
We can go back and forth all you want over
how much they want to pay him, how long they

(05:31):
should pay him, for the pace by which has been done.
You may be again, I don't know where your perception
comes from. You may be somebody who hates Jerry Jones
and says Jerry Jones screwed this up, and he may
have You're allowed to have all these opinions. But I
do think it's interesting that this is probably the only
place in business sports life where a guy is under contract.

(05:58):
They play a game in was it two weeks for Monday,
and the world's not saying like, hey, you're you know
you're supposed to be out there because you're under contract.
All these negotiations are not for this year. Granted he
signs an extension, he gets the money up front and
then it goes the salary becomes live the next year.

(06:18):
I understand that it's a little complicated, but the reality
is he has a contract for this season. It pays
him into eight figures, and we're all okay with Like,
you know, he may to make a point, he may
miss a game, and it's a huge game against the
defending Super Bowl champions, who happened to be one of your,

(06:40):
if not your biggest rival right now, Like, it's crazy
that this is the way that football players are allowed
to do business. And by just showing up even though
he hasn't done anything, and honestly he's been like disruptive
at a football game, laying on the trade table. He's
not getting fined. We're all okay with this. It's again,

(07:04):
if it was anything outside of the NFL, people be
like this makes no sense. I'm not sure it makes
much more sense inside the NFL, but people give you
a pass. That's what they do. Like this is sort
of standard operating procedure, believe or not, which makes it
feel even worse, like that this is how football players

(07:25):
react and how they do things. Yeah, they do, this
is what they do. I don't know, so imagine yourself
you're Brian Schottenheimer. You get a job where people didn't
expect you to get. Did anybody expect them to get

(07:45):
for him to get this job, No, no chance, nobody
expecting him to get this job. And hey, good news
is you get to be the head coach the Cowboys.
Bad news is, even if you have Micah Parsons, you
won't have the real mic Up Parson's week one because
he's chosen to hold out this long and probably not
in shape when he could easily be working out. And

(08:07):
I'm sure he's working out at the facility, but yeah,
I don't know. Man. It's just such a murky, bad
look to me when you're not ready to go, and
it's your job to be ready to go.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
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Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, and
we want to make this a weekly. He's really really busy,
but he's really really good. He's Chris FeliCa, Fox Sports
betting analyst co host of the Bear Bets podcast, and
he joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Felix's challenges in being a gambling man

(08:51):
not just early season, but also early season when these
are all relatively new teams. Right like Oklahoma State plays
tomorrow night. I think they have like sixty five new guys,
right North Carolina seventy five new guys. What's the challenge
like in trying to wager when, forget about you don't

(09:15):
know what this team is, what these teams are like,
they don't know what their teams are like.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, it's a massive challenge. And one of the things
that I'd like to do, which is usually something I
would never normally say in past years, is I like
to wait as long as possible in my season prep.
That way, I make sure I'm getting all of the
transfers and such in there, and I'm not forming an
opinion on a team that might not necessarily be the

(09:41):
team that ultimately takes the field. This was something that
we were talking about on Barbets before. Though. At the
same time, while it is challenging and there's a lot
of guesswork, it's also challenging and a lot of guests
work for the odds makers, like you look at you
look at a game like Georgia Tech Colorado, where Georgia
Tech is a four points favored over Colorado, who we

(10:03):
don't know how they're gonna look this year. I mean,
obviously Dion's health was a big story in the offseason
and thank god he's he's okay and the got the
cancer taken care of. But on the field, you lose Sadur,
you lose Shallow, you lose Travis Hunter, like we don't
know what they have, Like maybe they're okay. Georgia Tech's
a team that we think is gonna be really good,

(10:25):
but that line is stuck right around four. So it's
like it looks like on paper and what we saw
last year with Haines King and everyone back from Georgia
Tech should that you should be better. But at the
same time, with Salter coming in and some of the
recruiting that Colorado has done, it would it would have
surprised me if they won that game. No, not at all.
So it really it really is a guest. You just

(10:45):
kind of have to trust your numbers, especially in the
early season, and think that you might have be able
to find it andw with some of.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
These games Okay, let's get to some of these games.
I think there's some interesting ones. Even tomorrow night. I'll
give you probably the biggest name matchup Nebraska. People have
big expectations for the Huskers in the Big Ten. They
travel to Cincinnati and take on the Bearcats. I'm looking
at it Nebraska being a road favorite six and a

(11:15):
half point favorite and the total being fifty one and
a half. What are your thoughts on the Huskers on
the road against the Bearcats.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yea arrowhead there it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I would ahead my bet.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yep, yep, yeah, all good doors. I had to do
a double take on that. I'm not as well. When
I was going through my prep, you would imagine it's
going to be massive Nebraska crowd. But at the same time,
I like to again I have a little bit of
a contrarian look at the numbers when they come out.
Like everyone is very high on Nebraska this year. They
think they could be a potential sleeper team in the

(11:49):
Big Ten, maybe make a playoff run. Cincinnati's kind of
a middling, kind of maybe lower third. The Big Twelve
team last year found imaginable ways to lose games with
special teams, breakdowns, and such and there. I think there
were one in four and one score games and really
blew a lot of games that they had chances to win.

(12:11):
And I think Scott Saderfield feels pretty good about his
team this year in terms of where they are personal
personnel wise. I think he thinks this is the best
team he's had since he's been there. Would not surprise
me at all. But Nebraska is so great and Cincinnati
is so down. Why hasn't this number blasted through seven?
And the books have basically said Okay, enough, no more

(12:34):
in Nebraska money kind of feels like they're they're pretty
welcome to taking hold of the Nebraska money that they can.
And I feel good about a position going into this
game with Cincinnati. It was funny I did a show,
uh the other day, and while I was in the
waiting room on the show and that rule where was
the guest right in front of me, and Matt was
really talking about how some of the perception of his

(12:56):
team and they are still a very very young team,
So I think I think he liked his team. And obviously,
with rola quarterback, they probably have the best player on
the field. But at the same time, this is Nebraska program,
which in itself the when when they've been a favorite,
they've found ways to lose games with turnovers. In their

(13:18):
record in close games over the last however, many years
hasn't been great. So I feel pretty good. You can
find some sevens out there with the Bearcats and and
I did grat seven with with with.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
UC Chris Phlika, johny Us bear Bets podcast is Doug
Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Boise State got to
the College Fall playoff last year. Obviously you lose Aston genty.
Now they start the year going going down to Tampa
and they they take on South Florida. Okay, played at

(13:53):
Raymond James Stadium in the heat, probably little rain, but
that that's hot for some kids from Boise. What are
your thoughts on this one where Boise's a five and
a half point favorite with a total being sixty two
and a half.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, South Florida has been a team that has given
some team. I remember a couple of years ago they
gave Alabama a ton of trouble there, and I know
I know there their coaching staff really gets amped up
for big game opponents. But at the same time, I
think you just have to trust Boise State, the program
that they've built with Ashon genty. Even without a bunch

(14:25):
of impact players on the defense, they're no longer there.
I just type of culture that that program has. Now
this number is down to five and a half. I
think Boise goes on the road wins. It wasn't necessarily
a great week for the Mountain West last week in
weeks Aero with a couple of their teams really not
looking great despite a couple escaping with the win. But

(14:47):
I will trust Boise to go down to Florida. This
is a team that a program rather than now He's
not the same thing when they've gone to Florida State
in one before. In the state of Florida. I think
they'll be okay in Tampa. I think they're better than
you see USF. I like I would lay the points
there with Boise.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
By the points, with Boise to cover it on the road. Okay,
cup More, Auburn take it on Baylor. That one's on
Fox on Friday. Auburn take it on Baylor. Auburn's a
two and a half point favorite on the road in Wakeo.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
This is one of the biggest like stay away games
of the week for me, at least in terms of
a pregame bet. I am high on Auburn this year.
The only I have bet Auburn over seven and a
half wins on the year, and I know that the
price on that has gone up dramatically. This was not
a game that I circled in as a win oral off.

(15:40):
I figured this was kind of a toss up game
that if they wanted was an added bonus, and if
they lost, I still felt they could go over the total.
I think what Auburn has done bringing in Singleton and
all the world couldn't have whiffed this badly on Jackson
Arnold as a quarterback, with how highly thought of he
was coming to OU and now he's down an offense

(16:02):
at Auburn won. Oh, they got some fucking things going
on in terms of play calling. And at the same time,
at the end of last year, Baylor was probably the
best team to pick twelve. I know Arizona State was great,
but the White Baylor who played the second half of
the year once they finally settled in at the quarterbacks.
This issue with Sawyer Robertson, they were a tough out.

(16:22):
Can that carryover to this year is Dave Orr and
his team boys to take the next step. I know this.
I know that there were a lot of people out
in Vegas who hit the three hard and drove it
down to two and a half. And I know there
was a limit that at South Point on Baylor plus
two and a half as well, which seems like a

(16:44):
lot of the sharps, a lot of the professionals, at
least out in Las Vegas do like Baylor in this
game and and laid their money.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
With the home dog Georgia Tech taking on Colorado another
game tomorrow night. Colton Slater gets the start for CEU,
But I mean, just such a different Colorado team without
their two stars. They're a four and a half point
dog at home to Georgia Tech.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
It seems to me like this is a game that
would have had a bit higher of a point spread,
even with the game being in Boulder at SeeU with
so many unknowns about the Buffaloes, I kind of like
seeing you in this game a little bit. There is
a ton of hype surrounding Georgia Tech, and rightfully so.

(17:29):
They beat Miami last year. They're very easily could have
beaten Georgia and James King played May the second half
of the season. We were unable to lift his arm
because of a shoulder issue. There are really well coached teams,
but at the same that's the private route. Dion has
done very well in the role of an underdog. And
it was last year when they kind of were expected

(17:51):
to win that they kind of LAIDs and eggs, gave
up a bunch of points and turned the ball over
a bunch. But here as a home dog, I kind
of like Colorado here. Plus the ball wouldn't shock me
at all if they if they won this game out right.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Okay, let's get to the big day on Saturday. Let's
start with Ohio State and Texas played in the Shoe again.
Really fascinated because we don't have a great book on
arch Manning. But you know, there's there's a lot of
questions for each team. Wellhio State a new quarterback. Ohio

(18:28):
State's a one and a half point favorite. That's you
know at home, essentially they're a dog. Forty seven and
a half is the total.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Well, I bet under fifty and a half a couple
of mine when this first came out, and the number
obviously is trip got driven down. Hopefully people picked it
up in the Fox Sports column that I had a
rate and you mentioned the uncertainty about Ohio State. I
almost wonder if that plays to their advantage. But with

(18:56):
Texas not really knowing what type of defense Matt Strisher
is going to run, not really knowing what type of offense,
offensive play caller Brian Hartline will be. Obviously he's got
Ryan Day in his year as well, who's called plays forever,
so that's a massive help. And you have a new
quarterback and Julian Saying who is completely different from Will Howard,

(19:18):
Like he is not a runner, he's a better thrower
and he can spin it, and he's got a great
group of wide receivers. So I wonder if that's going
to keep Michikee. Kolkowski in that Texas defense off guard
a little bit. I don't know. Archie is one of
the unfortunately one of these like polarizing guys. I think
while we all think he the potential is there for

(19:40):
him to be good, we really don't know. Like we're
just putting him on this pedestal based on playing some
mop up time last year and playing a couple of games.
When when yours was heard against inferior type opponents. So
I think you're going to see a lot of quarterback run.
I don't think you're gonna see Tark really expect him
to go out and win the game. I think they're

(20:01):
gonna rely on his ability to run, rely on the facts,
play complimentary football, UH with their decent to help their
defense out and try and escape Columbus with the win.
But my gut says, by Saturday morning, I am gonna
I'm gonna be liking Ohio State in this game, especially
if this number drifts to a pick them and it's
essentially pick up on a home pick up on a

(20:23):
home field.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Okay, Saturday night, who you're gonna like? Lsu're at Clemson.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I kind of I am on my own this year
with Clemson. I'm not on an island. While I think
they potentially can be a really good team, I'm not
sure that they are like number one, number two type
team in the country. Like a lot of people are
power rating and expecting them to be LSU. I think

(20:50):
a lot of their troubled, a lot of the negativity
surrounding the thoughts that they can go to Clemson and
win just deals with Brian Kelly and the fact that
they lost those openers the last couple of year years,
whether it's beenning in Florida State or USC and that
they spent that they didn't cover numbers at Notre Dame
in the last three years that he was in South Bend.
But like person all wise, LF you doesn't take a

(21:12):
backseat to anybody. Arguably they in Miami. I did the
most in the transfer portal this year. So I think
there's a really good chance LS you can go to
Clemson and win. And I think the way maybe to
potentially play this is look at the long term big

(21:32):
the big picture in this one. Whoever loses, maybe take
a look at their national title odds, take a look
at their price to make the college football playoff, because
one loss doesn't eliminate you. And especially if you're in Clemson.
If you're Clemson in the in the ACC, in the
spot where you still are likely to get to the
a SEC championship game, it's a really good chance you

(21:54):
can still make the playoff. If you're LSU, you got
a bunch of games in the SEC where you can
pick up some quint he wins as well down the
margin at bearer obviously is less, but I would look
at it a buying opportunity on the loser of this
game with a big macro picture.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
There, awesome stuff. Chris, You're the best. The bare Bets
podcast is a can't miss download. Of course, you'll see
him on Big Noon Kickoff as well. He's the one only.
Chris Filica. Good luck this year.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Talk to you soon, Doug, Thanks for talking.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So I'm gonna do
a Maya copa here. I'm gonna do a Maya copa here,
and it doesn't pay me to do it, right, Like
I'm I'm okay saying, hey, I'm wrong on this.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
There's news out of the Tom Brady camp which is
interesting to me. I don't know if it's interesting to you.
I think it is. So Tom Brady obviously still a
broadcaster with Fox lead broadcaster, is going to be able
to attend production meetings. And you may say to yourself, like, okay,

(23:19):
what's the big deal about that?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
DG.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, Mike Florio, who's a lawyer and pro football. Pro
Football Talk is his site, which, look, I don't agree
with and again I'm sure people who like me they
don't agree with everything I say. But there's lots of
stuff there where I feel like it's like intentionally insightful

(23:46):
and inciting and trying to create controversies that don't exist.
Usually very pro player on the site and huge aggregator. Right,
So there's some things there that I'm like, I don't
necessarily agree with that style, but really successful and he
is tied into the NFL and this one I think

(24:09):
he nailed, which is dude, there's a conflict of interest
there with Tom Brady calling games and it's not like
he's a passive You remember a Glorious Stephan. He has
no remember Glorio Stephan. Sure, like I think we all
do because we're older, but there's like people who are
like thirty, like, I have no idea what you're talking
about anyway. Gloria Stephan was a big name pop music

(24:31):
performer in the eighties and early nineties, so she owns
I don't know what percent of the Miami Dolphins. And
so when Tom Brady was brought on board as a
Nordy owner of the Raiders. Like, okay, so what then
you watch Tom Brady in the preseason and he's out

(24:54):
there like he's the general manager. I just got the
Raiders gear on. He's all geared up, he's going player
to player, he's watching, he's evaluating, and we can get
in with what it means. Again, like, I cannot say
this loud enough. Let's first start with Shador Sanders. Remember,

(25:14):
the Raiders could have drafted a quarterback chose not to.
Yet we're told that Tom Brady worked with Shador Sanders
and Tom Brady is an advocate for Shure Sanders. Then
the Raiders trade for a Browns quarterback. Did they trade
for Shador Sanders? No, they did not. Now again, I

(25:35):
haven't seen the reports. Maybe they made an offer for
Shador and we're turned down and then they turned their
attention elsewhere. But this is two times in which if
Tom Brady is involved, and he's former quarterback and he's
considered the greatest and most successful quarterback of all time,
if he said, hey, you know what you should do
is go get Shador Sanders, do you think Mark Davis

(25:56):
would do it? Okay, let's put that side. Here's the
part where I'm going to give credit to Mike Flourio. Bro,
you can't. You can't be an active member of an
NFL team, owner or otherwise and call games for Fox

(26:19):
when you have to provide insight. And I get it.
Greg Olsen got away with it when he was a player.
He called some games when he was at the Carolina Panthers.
But for Tom Brady, his job, his real job is
not just to analyze. But you know, give us a
ton of background. We want Tom Brady's eyes, We want

(26:39):
to know does their offense work, We want to know
all these different things. I just I don't see a
way in which this is this is okay. And granted
go into the production meetings means he won't go to
the Friday practices. What you should know is broadcasters go
to a Friday practice. They're the only ones who get
to go to those Friday practices. And then they have
production meetings with different members of the staff, different members

(27:03):
of the roster. So the big announcement today is Tom
Brady is going to be allowed to go to those
production meetings. So there's two parts to it. One, there's
no way you can do as good a job as
you need to do if you can't go to the
practices and you're broadcasting game. Secondly, Secondly, how can you

(27:26):
do a good enough job if you're the owner, if
you're not able to get more insight and watch more
games on a weekly basis, You can't when you're calling
a game, you can't watch all the games. Sure you
got the whole rest of the week. But I'll give
credit to Mike Florio Pro Football Talk dot Com. He
said it. I was like, eh, but now I know

(27:46):
how involved he is with the Raiders. I don't know
how you do both both jobs and people people think
it's on the up and up and again, I think
Tom Brady he'll get better as a broadcaster. It's too stiff.
That happens over time. But if you want someone a team,
own a team, if you want to broadcast games, kind
of broadcast games, I do think those two things are

(28:09):
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!

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