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August 12, 2025 • 38 mins

Doug reacts to the "gambling scandal" involving Oklahoma QB John Mateer and explains why he believes Mateer when he says he did nothing wrong. 3 & Out Podcast Host John Middlekauff drops by to explain why Matt Stafford's injury is the most significant injury in the league right now.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:24):
back in the house in LA. H Hope you're doing great.
The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single day, same
bad time, same bad channel, in this case from Los Angeles, California.
Welcome in and as I told a gentleman from Texas,
so we landed the plane today. He asked the lady

(00:46):
behind me, how you ford live here? I said, you
know why LA is so expensive? You know the answer
is cause it's worth it anyway. Uh, welcome in, Hope,
You're great. The one thing about LA, it's a little
bit like, you know, you're on the freeway and you

(01:06):
get that sort of New York feeling like this place
is great. It would be a lot better, Like I
don't want was it the it wasn't Da Vinci Code.
It was one of the the Dan Brown books or
whatever that where they where the idea was it'd be
something in the water and would kill off half the people. Whatever.

(01:28):
Which book was that, I can't remember Google that would
you the same guy who wrote to Da Vinci Code.
It's like two after that one. I can't remember which
one it is called. Anyway, was it Inferno? It was Inferno? Right,
it was Inferno. Yes, I read books. I smart, so
Dann Brown Inferno. Like, sorry, I'm gonna spoil it for you.

(01:50):
It's like fifteen years old. If you haven't picked it up,
that's that's a U problem, not a ME problem. Essentially, essentially,
there's a cult of people in the world to think
the only way to save the earth is to cut
the population in half, kind of sort of start over.
And the way they do that is something they place
in the water where it makes certain it makes like

(02:11):
a portion of people infertile, right, so they can't have
kids and that will cut the population. Sort of genius,
sort of diabolical all the same time. Anyway, there is
the moment when you're in crowded places like this place
would be super awesome if like nobody was here. I
used to work in New York City and live in Connecticut,

(02:32):
and I would there'd be a snowstorm in New York
City and you'd like walk around the streets like just
after the snow had fallen. It was so quiet and
so beautifully Like, Man, New York be awesome if there
wasn't so many damn people here. And I say that
because I've been watching this John Matier story. So John
Matier is the new quarterback at Oklahoma, by the way,
He is the next savior, right because last year they

(02:53):
had a freshman who is the savior and he started
three games and they ran him out of town. But
he's job. Materier is the new savior of Oklahoma, right
because Oklahoma football has not been nearly as good as
they want to be over the past four years or
so three four years since Kayleb Williams left. And so

(03:17):
the thought is that, you know, when Lincoln Riley left
and he took Caleb Williams with him, they've been searching
for a quarterback, right because they had that incredible run
you know where you have where you have like back
to back to back just stud quarterbacks and even before
Kayleb Williams. You know, for three games, Spencer Ratler was

(03:38):
the starter. He was the number one ranked prospect and
he went to South Carolina. He's an NFL quarterback. He's okay.
The bigger point is that Materier is he transferred him
from Washington State and he's got to be the dude.
And Oklahoma who's somehow ranked right, and we talked about
rankings yesterday mean nothing, but they have gone out, spent
a bunch of money, got a talented team, and now

(03:59):
have proven quarterback. He's good and they brought his offensive
coordinator with him, so there's no like learning a new
football language and on paper should be really good. So
you wake up this morning to the gambling allegations, matear
potentially suspended. They're like, oh man, what was he doing?

(04:24):
So apparently somebody who wants to purport themselves as a reporter,
but we don't actually know who it is because they're
covered under the guys of social media, which is a
bunch of crap. By the way, this is the thing
when they changed the blue check mark, and you can
go like, well you just feel that way because you
had a blue check mark. You still have a blue

(04:45):
check but they gave him me mine. I did not
pay for mine. But it used to be like, if
you were somebody, like a reputable reporter, you got a
blue check mark. Now anybody can get it. So what's
the profet? What's the guy's name online who's reporting himself
as a reporter But there's no real person that exists
under that name or or for that for that network.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I believe it's Brian Aguada, I believe is how I
say it. And he purported himself as Valley News Live,
which there's no record of him apparently from the news outlet.
They say they've never hired someone like that. And his
profile pick is of like a North A hockey player
from five years ago from Northeastern.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, so again this is an internet troll. Happened to
me with earlier this year. What year is it, Yeah,
earlier this year, because it was I think this year. No,
it was last year. We lost to Michigan Tech and
somebody acted like they were covering the we act. We
act as the Division III league in Wisconsin, which is

(05:43):
a really good probably the best Division three league in
the country. That I called Michigan Tech. Nobody you, which
is the opposite of what I said. I said, everybody
we played is capable of beating us. I don't want
to play nobody, you you know, even THEO. And so again,
somebody essentially took what I said, flipped it and made

(06:03):
it out like I said it about Michigan Tech. I
was walking down the street in Traverse City, Michigan, last week,
and somebody yelled up, nobody you, but this is where
people suck. So they John Matier is and I understand,
we're gonna this is something we're forever going to struggle with. Now.

(06:23):
Is when you did something dumb, or you did something
that young guys do five seven years ago, and you're
a college football player, what would people say, Ah, it's
a college kid. Now, he's college kid. Yeah, I still
in college. I did way worse in college, you know,
even I mean you name the guy who's done something.

(06:46):
I mean, Johnny Manziel was run and wild, you know,
and people are like, ah, he's just a college kid,
just a party boy. He make excuses for it right
now because these quarterbacks are making seven figures and frankly
because people were able to legally bet on these games

(07:09):
and because of transfer portal, nil whatever, the professionalization of
an amateur sport. We treat people differently. I said that
about Spencer Ratler. You guys, I don't know. We all
worked together at the time, No profet you not, Ryan
whedon't and I'm not sure but Ilo we've worked together
on and off for all eight years I've been here.
But at the time when Spencer Rattler was the starting

(07:30):
quarterback in Oklahoma and he got lustily booed at home
in like his second game, I'm telling you that was
the moment where you realized college sports had changed to
professional sports where college students feel emboldened to boom and
they weren't necessarily mad that he sucked. It was a

(07:50):
little bit about it, but it was more, you know,
he had the appearance of being arrogant. He had the
earrings and the whole look. People knew who he was
from the reality show, and he was costing them money
because they could all gamble on games. So here's what
somebody did that we don't know who it is. They
went and looked at his venmo account and found that

(08:12):
he had two different times in which he had sent
venmos to somebody else. One time it said sports betting.
You was USC versus UCLA, and the other one it
said sports betting, and you're like, aha, got him. So
here's what John Mattier said. Tell me if you guys

(08:34):
buy this. The allegations that I once participated in sports
gambling are false. My previous Venmo descriptions did not accurately
portray the transaction in questions, but were instead inside jokes
between me and my friends. I have never bet on sports.
I understand the seriousness of the matter, but recognize that
taking out of context, those Venmo descriptions suggest otherwise. I

(08:56):
can assure my teammates, coaches, and officials at the NA
that I have not engaged in any sports gambling. And
I believe, I believe we'll talk about this a little
bit in the podcast. But I have that same sort
of sense of humor with my friends where you know,
whether it's coffee or my daughter Harper runs on coffee

(09:20):
and red Bull, and so I guarantee if my venmo
was made public, which by the way, I think that
may be the lesson here is like, don't make your
venmo public. But if my venmo was public, you'd see
crack on there and you're like, wait, you're sending your
money for crack. I was like, no, she was getting
money for red Bull and coffee, so that's her crack.

(09:42):
So that's like trying to be funny. Makes sense, right?
I think? I think like we that's kind of become
common speech. Is something's really good, it's like crack, it's
so addictive. Yes, are we all nodding our heads, profet. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I have a friend back in Detroit who who is
Indian and the kind of jokes he makes towards me
on like on Venmo. If though, I make sure to
delete them all the time because if anyone saw a
single one of them, it there. Some of them are foul,
some of them are just absolutely foul. But that's that's

(10:20):
just how we'll talk to each other. Well, that's how
you talk each other.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Why have you to lead them.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Because I don't just if they're private, sure I like
the joke, but if they're public, it's exactly that thing.
Everyone can see it, and that's like, okay, well I'm
terrified of someone asking me about that.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
At some point, Ryan B, my friend and I on
Venmo used to because Venmo didn't have any character limits,
so we would copy and paste, like song lyrics to
entire songs and use them as our descriptions on Venmo.
So like if somebody were to look at Venmo, they'd
see the entirety of like this is how we do it,
just like sitting there on their Venmo like we do.
We do stuff like that where we're just messing with

(10:54):
each other like crazy because it's not a serious social
media platform. So yeah, I totally believe that this dude
was just just messing around and just made the wrong joke.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Basically, Yeah, yeah, I mean I actually should pull up
my Venmo and see what I've sent to people. But yeah,
I've also done like mine's not public, I don't think
now you said sometimes it all pop public.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So I think the default is when you like send
something to someone, maybe there's a setting I'm missing, but
like every time I go to start at truts, some
things you're missing. That that is very true. That is
extremely true. But it always starts when you start the
transaction blind. It'll just set the status to public, and
so before you've got to make sure before you you
exit out of it, before you send it to switch

(11:39):
it to private or unlisted or whatever.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Hey guys, as someone who has never ever used Venmo
unless absolutely forced to. What exactly is Venmo's rationale for
making any of their transactions public in the first place.
I'm not seeing the benefits of their business or towards
society here. I think it would just be a set
up for trouble Like this, I feel.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Like it's just like that. That was always their angle,
is like, oh, this is also social media. They kind
of came up in that era where everything had to
have a social media element attached to it, whereas like, uh,
what cash app? I don't. I don't think they have
anything like that. If that's interesting, Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Are you a v You're not a Venmo guy?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Uh no, unless forced to. If if we encounter somebody
who only uses like venmo, I guess I'll have my
wife do it. I kind of know how to do zell.
But I'm even freaked out at that. But that's a
really interesting rationale as towards how the current generation just
airs on the side of over sharing and sharing instead

(12:42):
of not sharing.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
The irony too is like Venmo is not a serious
social media site, but if your information was hacked on Venmo,
that's the most serious thing that.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Could happen to you.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Would be the most Yes, yeah, well that's that's like
writing that happened to my parents. Yeah, there there, Zella
actually got ACKed and that was Yeah, that was bad.
Luckily everything's fine, but yeah, scary, scary for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Okay, I just want to make out of uh privacy
rights and privacy. I just want to make sure mine's
mine's private, so you can, you can do a lot
of things. But I've you know, like I've sent the
I've nothing, nothing that would be I don't curse or whatever.
I just I just I do think there was a
time in which I like, there's one Mike, I have

(13:31):
a lady who cleans for me. Right. I don't necessarily
want that known, nor do I want it known that
she cleans for me. I don't, right, because then, yeah,
somebody who had like real money could potentially go like
what's in his house?

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Right?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I just checked my last stuff. Yeah, but then like
a slab slob dogs gotta make a mess kind of thing.
I love the story because it's class. You you can
take anything out of context and make it inso something.
It's also a sign. Again, I don't know if if

(14:07):
you guys, here's here's the political one, which was it
yesterday that President Trump said he's gonna send federal troops
into DC?

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
And this is off of there's a terrible story about
a carjacking in DC, right, And like I get it.
I mean, I carjacking is serious stuff. And uh, inner
cities can be tough places, especially there's bad neighborhoods in
any any city that you're in, you can there's there's
people that you don't necessarily want to hang with. But
like then the that's like the arbitrary one story made

(14:39):
into being this big narrative. Whereas apparently again and I
don't know, I haven't been in DC in a couple
of years, apparently the crime is like way down, so
I don't know. But this is like what we do.
We take things and we take a story and something
we twisted kind of out of context, which makes it
makes people hate the media, it does, but it's not
the media creating this one. This is some Bill Johnson

(15:03):
x y Z whatever, fake hockey player, old picture guy
who's a troll, who who screenshoted. You know, a college kid.
Granted he's a well compensated college kid, but he's a
college kid's Venmo account and makes him out to be
a sports gambler. I do I think there are college

(15:26):
kids dumb enough to put sports betting on their Venmo
account when they're betting on sports, Yes, do I think
they're quarterbacks in college football?

Speaker 6 (15:34):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
I don't. I don't. There's a general I Q that
that'd be somebody if they were actually betting on sports.
But this feels like a nothing burger, and we'll just
have to see how it plays out. That's John Mattier,
whose new quarterback in Oklahoma's Doug Gottlieb Show here, Fox

(15:55):
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. I know, I know,
like all my Oklahoma State brethren, and you know, want
me just pounce on the kid or whatever? Like why
why what does that make? Is that gonna make us
feel all feel better that that that Oklahoma State won
three games last year and thinks are gonna win a
lot more this year.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
No.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Coming up next, Shador Sanders is still sitting at number
four in the Browns depth chart. What's actually mean? We'll
discuss that next. Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb
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(16:35):
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Speaker 4 (17:25):
So we're gonna drive down.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
The left field lot.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
If it's fair, this game is over, its hooking, it
is there and the Rangers when.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Jake Berger with a walk up.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Its and Texas comes back and beats the Snakes seven
to six.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, here here's my question for you, guys. Okay, I
want you to not look. Ilo, not look, don't look.
Are the Rangers any good?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Probably not?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Again? Yes or no? Are they any good?

Speaker 5 (17:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Ilo, Yes? What is good.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
For you?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I though No, I'm asking a good question, like are
they are they?

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Are they in contention for?

Speaker 6 (18:10):
What?

Speaker 4 (18:10):
For the postseason?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Now, it's good. They're two and a half out of
the two and a half out of the wild card.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Texas Rangers insider, I low.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
But the Diamondbacks are six and a half. I GE's
had you. This is where baseball is weird. Football has
this too, right. There's lots of teams we don't talk about,
like like, I mean they have Travis Hunter, they have
Trevor Lawrence. Like how often do we talk Jaguar football,
you know, or Tampa football or the Saints? I mean,

(18:39):
the NFC South really does not get the national love right,
Like I mean Caroline was awful last year, and obviously
defense the Tues didn't look very good against the Browns.
But regardless, there's probably seven or eight teams. I used
to think that Chargers even charges. Now it's only when
something goes bad that we talk about the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Right, Titan's got the number one pick this past year.
And how much do we talk about Nashville.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Everybody talks about Nashville, like I need to go to Nashville,
to go to Nashville Vegas. Right, yeah, in country country Vegas.
But baseball, I mean literally, I mean I couldn't tell you.
I pay attention to my team. I pay attention to
the Brewers, and then the Dodgers because I like to
make fun of Jason when they when they don't not

(19:25):
playing well, a little bit of the Orioles, my boy
Jackson Holiday and that's about it. And and the Rockies
because they were so bad. They've been so bad. But
it's it's a real question, like Texas Rangers Arizona Diamonbacks.
How many players can you name on the Arizona Diamonbacks.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I think it's the first time I've ever heard someone
call them the Snakes too. I didn't even know that
was a nickname.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well, it's a nickname of a nickname, though. What's the
nickname of a nickname that's kind of like a copy
of a copy? What's the nickname of a nickname? Does
anybody know? What like the nickname of a nickname? There's
got to be a term for it. Thanks for listening
to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. Be sure to catch
us live every week day from three to five Eastern
twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local

(20:10):
station for The Doug Gotlip Show at Foxsports Treaty dot com,
or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app
by searching FSR Okay bursching Er. What's the nickname of
a nickname called hypocorism? HYPOCORUSM?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I think they make an ointment for that, that's right, Yeah,
ask if you're doctor, Yes, as your doctor, Ask your
doctor if you need treatment for hypochorism?

Speaker 1 (20:31):
If you, If you do, you should take some venmo
every day. John Minocoff joins us, of course, he was
out to live golf with with a longtime golf fan,
t not Tiger Woods, Colin Cowherd over the weekend. Can
you teach our boy how to wear a hat. Yeah,
for a guy who for a guy who always has

(20:54):
a problem with somebody wearing a hat backwards, he doesn't
know how to wear a hat forwards, Like you don't
wear hat. You don't want a hat on top of
your hair like that where the hair shows.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, just when you got when you got good hair.
I used to wearing them, you know.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, No, I were him all the time because I
get terrible are Yeah, we've talked about this. This is
dou Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. You live, you
live in general. I'm not going to give people away
where you live, but you live in Phoenix. Right. Does
anyone in Phoenix call the Diamondbacks the Snakes?

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (21:28):
No, I'll be honest. I mean I've been here now
three or four years. Not many Diamondbacks con boath happening.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
As I said, like once they uh, what's my man's name?
They traded to, uh the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Paul Paul Goldschmidt, Right. We used to do a segment
when I was on one of my other networks called
Nobody Gives a Schmidt, and it was like all the
great things Paul gold Schmidt does, but nobody actually pays
attention to because he plays for the Diamondbacks is a
real thing. Nobody gives a Schmidt and anyway, yes, there's
not a lot even in the even in the Valley
of the Sun, nobody's like, hey man, how about those snakes?

Speaker 5 (22:10):
No, definitely, Yeah, the rattles make in the cactus you're
walking around.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, okay, there's a bunch. How did you think Shudor played.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Well? I mean he makes a couple of really nice throws. So,
like in an individual basis, I kind of on the
podcast last week tried to do like a does and
does when he comes to looking at preseason and at
the end of the day, making plays regardless whether you're
going up against me or you or going up against
a you know, a starting All Pro is always a

(22:41):
good thing. So being positive making plays. Obviously every position
is differently different, but quarterback supposed to play down the
field completions, touchdown throws. It's a good thing. But like
coaches can be pretty rigid when it comes to quarterback
plays their offense. So when I saw that it came

(23:02):
out that he's still the four string quarterback, people like
Jimmy Haslan can say what he wants. They draft that.
They like Dylan Gabriel more in Shador, they would have
drafted Chador in the third round. Like I don't think
they ever wanted him. Now this is where they have
to be careful. There comes a tsunami of publicity because
of this individual. I think Kala kind of called it

(23:23):
like a Tebow like thing. Now, Chador is a way
better passer than Tebow, but like they better be careful
because that's the easiest way to get fired when you're
probably gonna suck anyway, Just play the guy.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I liken it to I think if he get if
he does get cut, it'll be like Kaepernick where anytime
a quarterback goes down to be like, you know, you
should sign a Chador Sanders because he can. He can.
He also just couldn't help himself where he showed up
with somebody else pulling his bag, right he little he

(23:57):
had his videographer and a dude pulling his bag. He
just like couldn't help himself. Just had to be that
had to be that guy. Okay, So is it surprising
to you that he did not move up to debt chart?

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Not necessarily because when it specifically Dylan Gabriel again, they
drafted him a bubble like on the second day where
you got to give some money and it's a valuable pick.
So like, just because he was injured and the guy
had a good preseason game, They're not gonna make a
dramatic move. I do think though, once the regular season starts,

(24:34):
if they start losing games. You know, here's the thing.
If you do throw Dylan Gabriel in the game and
he looks bad and no one will want to see
him again. So it's like the Flacco Kenny Pickett thing.
Like I am not a Candy Pickett guy at all.
Everyone can understand at least, I mean, there's gonna be
some crazies for like starting Placo week one, you're doing
it for the veteran players on the team. But after

(24:56):
a couple of weeks, if he kind of looks like
you did last year old and just I mean like
a forty year old over the hill guy, you know,
and they and they start Dylan Gabriel like week five
or Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
They can't cut. They can't cut. That would be carrying
five quarterbacks because they still have Deshaun Watson, right, They're
not going to how many guys.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
DeShawn is just going to be on ir right, so
he won't take a fifty three man spot. I mean,
I don't think it's inconceivable they take for maybe they
cut Blacko and just start. I don't know, I mean they.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Got they're not cutting why they don't?

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Yeah, just white? They doesn't take two quarterbacks? You know,
this is this is why it's a bleach show and
why you'll never convince me. And you may have them
that they knew, like you gain are idiots and both
Ivy League guys, they didn't want to draft them, but
now they But okay.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
That was It's really like honestly, it's really like Kaepernick
from this perspective, Okay, it's really easy to get him.
It's hard to get rid of them, right, It's just
hard to get rid of him.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
And you know, I mean based on that, like I
mean again, like I'm not anti she, You wouldn't want
to get rid of them. I think she is a
better prospect. Like I'm not a big Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
No, Dylan Gabriel, gimbro is tiny. He doesn't have a
great arm and that athlete. Yeah, outside of that, missus
Lincoln ho ha's the show, right, Like he that's that's
who that that's who he is. All right, Well enough
talking about the Browns are good? Uh what about Matt Stafford?
What happens there?

Speaker 5 (26:24):
I'd say that's the biggest red flag right now in
the NFL. Given a team that, I would say most
people two months ago was like, oh, yeah, the Rams
can compete to win the Super Bowl. The defense young
and ascending. They had DeVante Adams, who's motivated. They got
the elite coach Stafford Shaw standos thing, you know. I mean,
it's weird because he's older than all these guys, but

(26:45):
we all agree when he's on they can go toe
to toe with anybody, as they did in that playoff game.
But like, is there a worst injury to have, especially
the older you get, than the injury he has. At
least if he rolled your ankle or Jordan up like something,
the pinky, it's very like, very black and white, like, hey,
you get this, you'll be good to go in a
couple of weeks, you'll be fine. The back thing he

(27:06):
throws Saturday, and like any older person knows, a couple
of days later, it's like, WHOA, this does not feel
right and that's pretty scary and being douge. We've seen.
We saw Steve Kurrab basketball coach being pain so Matt
Stafford there is no disputing his toughness. So when McVay
says he's gonna go Monday five six days ago, that

(27:27):
was the plan and clearly he's it's not good. So
here's the thing. You can tell me. He makes it
back for week one, but like, what's his body feel like?
I don't even know who they played week one, but
like on Monday after that game, right, or he plays
a couple of weeks. It just isn't going to be
an on and off thing all year. And I don't
care what McVeigh says about Jimmy Garoppolo calls him the

(27:47):
best backup in the league. I mean, based on the
way he's played recently in the last couple of years
at post injuries too, He's not the same guy the
Rams would be. I don't want to be screwed because
they got them in structure there that it's not like
they'd be a two win team. But you can kiss
the high level competition of compete in the NFC, and
I di'd't even say the playoffs goodbye.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Did you see the poll of NFL personnel and they
had Speaking of the Valley of the Sun, they had
Kyler Murray is a third tier quarterback. Where are you
on Kyler Murray?

Speaker 5 (28:23):
I agree? I mean, I think that that interception he
threw the other day against the Chiefs is him in
a nutshell because, like the Colts is the worst case scenario.
They drafted Anthony Richson. He just like he has had
no clue what's going on. I think Kyler knows what's
going on. He just can't really see right, so he's

(28:43):
got to move. And then as a decision maker because
he's got these like elite attributes and he half the
time makes the play, kind of does some stupid stuff.
But like they can have a month stretch where they
their team is pretty down. If you told me in
like October, you know, at the end of two months
they're like four and four, and they just had they
went three and one in October. It's believable because you

(29:05):
can have good stretches. He also for all the talented guys,
you can have a stretch where like you watch back
to back games like that one of the worst quarterbacks
in the NFL. You just can't trust them, so I
know they're like a hitster pick. Everyone's like, oh, the
Cardinals gonna make the playoffs? Like, do you take that bet?
I will take the other side.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Stec Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the
voice of John Middlcoff, who, of course, you can listen
to on the three Now podcast on the Volume podcast network. Okay,
where are you on? I mean, I know you were
in Chicago, so I'm guessing you got some Caleb Williams opinion?
Where are you and Caleb Williams, Well, one.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Thing is being there. It was my first time kind
of hanging out in this I wasn't even we were
the suburbs. But you realize it's beautiful big, I mean,
the most important Midwest city in terms of size and finances.
And then that little team up where you live. I've
been beating their butt for thirty plus years and there

(30:04):
is there's just a worry there. And then I'm getting
on the plane flying home. You buy the Internet, I'm like, Okay,
you're gonna get a little Caleb vers Tua, even if
it only lasts a couple drives. I'm like, that'd be fine.
Then I'll pass out. The game comes on, there he
is in the T shirt. I'm like, you've got to
be kidding. And my theory was, Doug is, it's clearly

(30:25):
been an up and down training camp. This was not
a preseason game of like seven other preseason games going
on right like Saturday, a bunch of games going. It
was a standalone game. So if you said, hey, Caleb's
in the game, millions of more people might just tune
in for that thirty minutes and if it goes bad,
it's the number one topic in football for the next
couple of days. So I think he punted just knowing

(30:48):
again it could have gone well, but he didn't even
want to risk it in that situation because McDaniel, what
the weekend nitpick two? All we want, but it's much
more secure about like two of those out there. It's
gonna look like he'll be fine. They had to be
a little nervous, like what if it doesn't look good?
And I'm not saying like I believe Ben Johnson's a
good coach, but I do think that he's no dummy

(31:10):
to understand the negativity and the tsunami of the talk
that would have came so that's you could see, well,
no one else played. Well, yeah, I think it's easy
to make that decision once you realize, yeah, it's not
even worth throwing Caleb out.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Lots of lots of teams actually did have guys that played.
I'm ironically ironically enough, uh middle cooffe. And the next
time you come to Chicago and you're on the you know,
on the north side, you could drive you know, two
hours and twenty minutes further and we could actually hang
and you could see that franchise's won thirteen championships.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Or I need to do that next time.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Okay, I'm just there's an invite. I know a guy,
I know, lots of guys there. Anyway, Johnny, great stuff.
But next time you see Calhart, let's teach ment, wear
a ball cap.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Okay, okay?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
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did you guys notice that with the you see Colin
on with Live Golf, I.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Saw the pictures.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Did you notice that happen.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, yeah, and did you.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Think the same thing. You're like, you've never worn a hat.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
I know his I know his opinion on wearing hat
backwards is.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Like, what's amazing is Colin? Now He's like going like
full Midwest like you know, these golf courses are amazing.
I'm like, yeah, everybody knows that in Chicago's like I
really amazing. It's like you're playing golfs like, oh yeah,
I'm really working on my game. I'm getting into it. Like, dude,
I've played golf with you. Your add creeps in at
like the tenth hole. You're like, well, like, if you
can make it past whole fourteen, Don't get me wrong,
I get the golf add as well. You're like, oh boy,

(32:47):
you know my thing is I I don't go to
the range. Well, if I do not for long enough,
so it takes me like four holes to get looped
up ready to go. Then you know, you crack your
first beer or whatever, then I'm good. Then I get
to sixteen seventeen, like, oh man, why do I do this?
This is a long day. My back's killing me, killing me,
killing me. Cut on, next, what does Jordan Love's injury

(33:10):
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Speaker 2 (33:31):
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Speaker 4 (33:37):
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(34:03):
Doug Gottlieb Show, we turn over to a guy like
Isaac Glow and Crown say, I play us a game.
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show, and
on The Doug Gottlieb Show, we do it much better
than those goofs at the Associated Press when it comes
to rank them. Ah, take that, Texas. All right, we'll start.
I want you to rank your top three picks in

(34:31):
fantasy football, with it being obviously fantasy football draft season.
Your top three picks in fantasy football.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
My top three picks in fantasy football.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
So among those out there, perhaps you know Justin.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Justin Jefferson, b John Robinson, Saquon Barkley, Jamar Chase. Right,
I'll go to a Chase three. I'll go Bijon Robinson two,
and I'll go Saque one. They gave them, they gave
more money, so they're still gonna use him. A ton Quon.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
I would have ironically put Cam Little at number three.
I mean, you kick a seventy yard field goal that's
gotta be worth something during the regular season onto.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
The So you've never played fantasy football.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Not a second. I've been exposed with that one remark.
All right, I want you to rank the four quarterbacks
in the NFC North. The four quarterbacks in the NFC North.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I'm going to go. I think Jordan Love has
potential to be better, but I mean you can't. I mean,
Jared Goff's been to a Super Bowl and been to
a NFC Championship game. I'm gonna put golf at one.

(36:01):
Love it too, Yeah, yeah, Malik Willissa three. I don't
know I missed back now, Uh, I'll go JJ McCarthy
at three and Caleb Williams four. Alight, and the logic
behind it is in systems now, yeah, I'll go. Now,
I'm gonna do Kayleb Williams. He's played JJ hesson'll Kayleb

(36:23):
Williams three, JJ McCarthy four.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Okay, there you go. Uh, We're gonna go back to
college football now. I want you to rank your top
three matchups for Week one of the season. Among those
in Week one, Ohio State hosting Texas one, LSU at
Clemson two. Wow, that worked out well. Then I'm gonna
go Alabama at Florida State's all right, Well we're done there,

(36:46):
said to.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Dame of Miami. Though you got Catholics versus the convicts.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Oh yeah for the New millennium. Yeah, oh that was
fun back in the day, it was. Yeah, I did
a good thirty four when back when Miami cheated. Now
that's legal to do what they did back, isn't it ironic?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah? So don't you think very good? I'll go Yeah,
Bama Florida State three, Bama name their starting quarterback yesterday
or today or whatever. L s U Clemson two. Is
that in Atlanta?

Speaker 4 (37:16):
I could check.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
That's gonna be the Atlanta one.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Probably one of those neutral you know, kickoff class.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I always play one in Atlanta. It's usually Georgia or
or Clemson place here sometimes Georgia places.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Oh no, it's gonna be at Clemson.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I think Clemson. You guys, there have been uh no,
South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
No, would I think I toured it for when I
was in high school for like, you know, potential colleges.
I've been up there.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
It's an awesome paw prince everywhere on campus.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Paw prints on the on the on the freeway that
leads you to the paw prints on the road which
take you all the way to the stadium.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
It's it's dope.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
And then I'll go to Texas, Ohio State at the
Shoe and one okok.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
And our final item on this edition of Rank Them,
I want you to rank your top three in state
Major League Baseball rivalries. Top three in state Major League
Baseball rivalries.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
We'll go Yankees, Mets three. Okay, Giants, Dodgers two, Giants,
Padres one.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Oh, Giants, Padres.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Interesting because just happened to the playoffs. That probably mean
the playoffs this year. And the Padres talk a lot
of junk Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Yes that Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Did I say Dodgers Dodgers? I said Giants, my bad
Dodgers Padres one.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Absolutely, And that concludes this edition of the Press.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
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