June 28, 2024 • 39 mins
Dan Beyer and Isaac Lowenkron step in for Doug Gottlieb amidst some technical difficulties as the guys react to the Lakers drafting Bronny James. Doug joins in to chat with Former NFL GM Mark Dominik. Plus, who really came away with the best pick in the NBA Draft?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
And we're moments away from hearing what Doug has to
say about the inevitable happening last night the Los Angeles
Lakers indeed drafting Browny James with a fifty fifth overall pick,
and we look forward to hearing Doug discuss the many
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ramifications of what I felt was totally inevitable. But for
the moments, officially we're not hearing from Doug just yet
because of technical difficulties.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
In between you and me.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And this is Isaac Lahencron here at Isaac Lahenkron on
social media wh here were welcome between you and me.
I actually played that sound effect myself. The fellows in
the control room can actually not hear me because they're
scrambling around trying to connect with Doug. What they don't know,
and what I'm about to tell you is I was
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so eager to get a lot of things off my
chest and onto the chest of my many inferiors. That
a few minutes ago, I walked into the control room
and I very subtly pulled a plug and that has
prevented Doug from speaking to you. And until they get
that fixed, America, I'm all yours. You're welcome. Here's the thing.
(01:42):
It was totally inevitable because it was a second round pick.
I mean second round picks. You're really not on the
hook for too much contract wise. They might not even
eventually plan the team, they might go down to the
developmental leagues, whatever. But I'm looking at it from Browny
James standpoint, and honestly from the stamp point of a
kid looking to work with their parents.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Now, if you're a young.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Man and you're going to be in the NBA and
you're going to have this dazzling, incredible lifestyle where you
get to travel on chartered planes and stay in six
star hotels, yes, not even five star hotels, six star hotels.
Let me put it this way. Being in the NBA
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as a player carries with it a certain opportunity to
have a prolific social life. You're young, you're in your
teens or early twenties. Do you really want your old
man hanging around when you have the opportunity to go
on the road and enjoy the social life in the NBA.
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And I'm looking at this from a parent standpoint and
my children. I'll be honest with you, and this is
maybe a form of therapy for me. My children are
seven and nine. They barely want anything to do with
me unless they need food or a ride. No, no, no,
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as it should be. As it should be. So among
the many ramifications that Doug is about to discuss from
a basketball standpoint and a business standpoint, I mean, let's face.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That they're not the Los Angeles Lakers. They're the Los
Angeles Lebron's.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The whole thing was completely completely inevitable. But look at
it from a basketball standpoint. For Blonnie James' career, this
puts so much pressure and focus on someone who is
the fifty fifth overall pick in the NBA draft. Has
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there ever been any pressure at all or any focus
on a fifty fifth overall pick in NBA history? So
I understand, yes, it's a thrill for Lebron to be
on the same team as a son, but as a parent.
As a parent, do you really want your kid to
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face that sort of pressure unless you necessarily welcome it.
I mean, for example, in our line of work, sports broadcasting.
And I'll get to all your many tweets in a moment,
including this one, Isaac, please go back into the studio.
Plug that plug back in. We want to hear from
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Doug not you. Yeah, really appreciate that. Ironically, that tweet
was actually sent by my wife, who I will now
block on social media.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
But look, in.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
The line of work that we are here at Fox
Sports Radio, sports broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You, I wouldn't want to my kids to go.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Into sports broadcasting because I know how crazy and wild
and competitive this field is, and how chaotic this field is.
I want them to just be a boring, normal something.
If they want to go into sports broadcasting, fine, Lord
knows they're not going to because they don't want anything
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to do with me. Like I said, But from a
parenting standpoint, maybe we'll open this up to you America
at Isaac Lonkron Fox Sports Radio on social media. I mean,
do you really want your kid to a follow your
footsteps into your profession? And B do you want your
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kid to directly work with you. I personally just want
my kids to be completely free of my influence in
terms of their career choice. I want them to be
totally under the influence, if you will, of what I
try to teach them from a character standpoint. But I
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don't want them to be in my line of work
or to work directly with me. I want them to
just completely go out on their own, to be away
from my shadow. I mean, let's be honest, when my
kids find out that it is legal to change their names,
they're going to change it to something besides long Cron
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because you know, it's a glowing crime. I see the
control room is finally listening to me once again and
peppering me with ill timed actually perfectly timed and sarcastic
sound effects. But you know your last name is Jones
or Smith or Wilson. Fine, but you know, if my
kids go around with the name long Cron, let's face it,
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there's a big dark cloud because of me following that name.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So I want my.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Kids to just go out on their own and not
feel any pressure or am I wrong? But this is
where you come in around the country. At Fox Sports Radio,
at Isaac Lahncron. There is such thing as the family
business and the culture and the tradition of some families,
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not just basketball when it comes to Lebron. I mean,
you see it all the time in mom and pop restaurants,
and that gets passed from generation to generation, and that
is a huge, important, sacred deal, whether it be a diner,
a mom and pop restaurant, an the other line of business,
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a clothing store, a family law firm, and maybe families
across America just see it in a much different way
than maybe I see it right now. I mean, it'll
be one thing if personally I'm just a sports broadcaster
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and that was a new thing in our family. But
what if I just like, maybe you, what if you
were born into a family that went back generations with
the same profession, maybe an attorney or a business or
a doctor. Is it a different expectation. Is it just
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part of your life that you're naturally expected to follow
in the footsteps of your previous generation.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I'm sorry, do we have Dan or Doug dan Byer?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Hello, Isaac kind I've been loving this conversation. I just
want in on it.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Haven't you heard enough of me today?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
You know that's funny because you are bringing up a
scenario that I've thought of myself. And sometimes when we
get caught up in the world of our own lives,
it doesn't necessarily translate. Nepotism in sports broadcasting like with
us within that realm has always been a huge thing, right, how.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
How dare you bring that up? By the way, coming
up at three pm today the debut of The Brody
Buyer Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
It maybe it may be happening at some point, right,
But like we've we've we've known, I mean, you know,
Joe Bucke has talked about it. The Carry family, that's
it's it's talked about a lot. There's even been recent
situations where, you know, Chris Collinsworth's son was doing stuff
on NBC. I no, Eagle's name is brought up because
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his dad's eye and Eagle. That's always been a conversation.
And I thought to myself, well, is that with Am
I just thinking of that because it's broadcasting or is
that near and dear to my you know, to.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
To what I do.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But then I think about like as as an athlete,
like in being drafted and being put in that certain spot.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
It's it's it's more like that.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Than it would be a coaching tree or anybody else
at any other company. I've seen people use Bill Belichick
son as an example of nepotism. But hiring you know,
Stephen Belichick to just be in a defense an assistant
coach on defense, I think is a lot different than
using a draft pick and taking a roster spot of
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someone that is very limited. So the actual Lebron James
aspect of it, I think translate closer to us in
broadcasting in terms of all right, you know, there's this,
there's only one chair that you can sit and introduce
NFL games or call Major League Baseball games. There are
a few opportunities there than there I think in coaching
trees or other you know, walks of life.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
At fairpoint, how would you address my point?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Because I think the like like I said, I might
be slightly exaggerating here, but my children rightly so want
nothing to do with me. Your son, however, worships the
ground you walk on from from a parenting standpoint. Would you,
obviously you want your son to do whatever he loves
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as a career, but if he showed interest in our particular,
our particular line of work, just like our listeners might
have children who might be interested in whatever their line
of work is.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
How would you approach that as a parent?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I would try to encourage him to do what he
wants to do, and I would try to use I
guess my advantages anyway you know that could help him
along the way. It's just the fact of I wouldn't
expect him to be in the number one chair, you know,
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in a in a big spot.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
As I'm saying this, I realized that, gosh, this has happened.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Like you know, no Eagles rise to fame is huge,
But Noah's also started out.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
As the Clippers play by play guy.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
You know, did work at Syracuse when he was a
student there, so it's not like he was just burst
onto the scene and was handed it right out of college.
I would expect my son as well, to end up
having like those sort of lumps, to have that sort
of experience, a way to pay your dues and then
be able to go on along the way. That's just
that's what I would end up doing if I would
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try to help him along the way. But by no
means what I expect anything, And that's what I think
is even part of this is this is kind of expected.
Like maybe the biggest news of yesterday, or the biggest
shock of yesterday, was that it actually did happen. We're
maybe used to like, no way, that's not going to happen.
But this has been talked about for so long that
it actually came to fruition. That may have been the
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biggest surprise that they actually stayed to their point and yeah,
this is actually happening.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Bronnie James is drafted by the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Did it seem inevitable to you? At some point?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I thought so, But then it happened, and then I
thought maybe I didn't think it was inevitable. Inevitable and
just the point of where he could have signed as
a free agent, but I don't think that they wanted
that to be a part of it. You want to
be drafted. There's something about being drafted, and in the NFL,
they'll tell you it's better to maybe not be drafted
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than the seventh round because then you can pick where
you can sign as an you know, undrafted free agent.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
But that's not the case here. He's only going to play.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
He was only wanted to play for one or two teams,
and there was the Lakers of the Suns apparently from
everything that we heard from.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
From the reports about Rich Paul.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
So that's you know that that's where I also thinking
maybe it goes a little bit too far, maybe to
they could have maybe added a better player. And I'm
not I'm not saying that the fifty fifth pick in
the NBA Draft is super valuable and it's been this
hotbed of talent throughout the years, but there is there
is You do have to weigh the effects of all, right,
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do we do Lebron a favor or should we look
out for the betterment of our team? And they chose
to do Lebron a favor instead of looking out the
betterment of the team.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
A reminder coming up at five pm Eastern, It's Cavino,
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Speaker 3 (13:52):
Fox Sports Rado.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Here.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Here's why, here's why I love, you know, working here
at Fox Sports Radio, and here's why our listeners love
discussing and listening to these discussions, because it's all about
it's not just what is actually done, it's about the optics.
So hypothetically, Dan, because yours much of a follower of
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sports media and sports media culture, as I am. Hypothetically,
if the Lakers did not draft Brownie last night, what
would the dialogue, what would the narrative be today if
the exact opposite thing had happened last night.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I don't know if you're making a point, but I
if you aren't, I think that you are. I think
that the narrative would be good on the Lakers. Let's
see how he does as an undrafted free agent. Let's
watch him in summer league play for the Lakers, which,
by the way, the schedule came out, there are six
games that are going to appear on ESPN.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Three of those are Laker games.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You know, so sure that's a coincidence.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's you know, there's an Atlanta Washington one,
so you have the top two picks go against each other,
Zachary Ariza against Ale sar But I don't think it
would be I think that there would be I think
the Lakers would have gained points in that scenario. I
think lebron would have gained points in that scenario. Yeah yeah,
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instead of just letting it be and Bronni is who
Bronni is. That was the biggest part that I had,
or the biggest problem that I had where people trying
to convince us that he was worthy of the fifty
fifth overall pick, and I actually think that's kind of
unfair to Bronni because Bronni is who he is, that's
all that he can be. And it's maybe the people
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who put him in that situation, the Lakers, that are
the ones who should be put.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
To blame if they overdraft him. So Bronnie's just Bronnie.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
But if he wouldn't have been drafted, I think everybody
would have been cool with it. I think lebron would
have gotten points, think the Lakers would have gotten points.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And now all of a sudden, Bronni becomes.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Even more maybe of a player that you root for
and root to succeed that he can go and make
the Lakers team as an undrafted free agent, even though
we feel that it's a foregone conclusion that he'll be
on that team, considering the rhetoric that we heard leading
up to it. But I think it would have been
I don't think there would have been as much controversy,
if any controversy, if you wouldn't have been drafted.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I think that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And before you pay the final bill, here in this segment,
I think that you are giving too much credit to
the lunatics in the sports media cycle, because I think
a component today and all that is certainly valid. In fact,
it should be more valid than what I'm about to say.
But I think the narrative if they hadn't have drafted him, oh,
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Lebron at odds with the Lakers front office, Lebron furious,
Lebron's going to be on his way out of the
Lakers because they didn't draft Bronnie Lebron feels betrayed by
the Lakers for not drafting Bronni. I think that that
would have been a component of the narrative today, in
addition to the stuff you brought up, Because you know me,
I always like to assume the most controversial, asinine things
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are going to happen.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Well, and there is the free agency.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
We expect the opt out to happen, and then Lebron
not AIEU, but we expect the opt out to happen.
And if your scenario played out, maybe there is some
sort of question. I just don't know where he would
have gone, where he would have made the money that
he would want to make. And that's just where I
think that it stands, but a very very poignant points
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on the hierarchy. Let's walk ahead. Mark Dominick he joins
us on a weekly basis here on the dougat Lib
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Of course, longtime executive scout
in the Nation Folloball League. Most he's a gentle manager
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of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and he joins us and Mark,
I want to ask you about Aaron Rodgers and missing
a mandatory camp. I know he's been doing it forever,
but the juxtaposition of Aaron this year and last year
is stark, especially considering he only played four snaps. Your
GM of the Jets, how do you handle it.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Yeah, I mean I didn't love it, Doug. I mean
I would. I'd like him to be there. He's been
there for the Offiction program. It's something that I think
would be nice to make sure that he kind of
finishes everything like the rest of the players. And yet,
you know, if he came to me early enough, I think,
you know, my goal would be is that you know,
it's been a distraction that didn't have to happen, and
it certainly could have been cleaned up before the Veteran
Mini Camp happened. And so now it's just a matter
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of really, he's gonna have to come out and be sharp,
answer the question real quick, be sharp and look really
good in his early games, and no one's going to
think twice about it. If he struggles, We're going to
continue to point back to, you know, is Aaron Rodgers
sell face as he struggled, you know, to do the
right thing at the right time or those kinds of things.
But from an optics it's not great. I would love
to know what the real reason was to say, you know,
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that's worthy or not.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
The other story last year, he was obviously a massive story.
The other story last year, I remember we were talking
about running backs and their values, and now we look
up and Josh Jay Gibbs is in Green Bay, Joe
Mixon's in Houston, Derrick Henry's in Baltimore, Saquon Barkley is
is in Philly. Who do you think has the best
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is the best fit and has the most left in
the tank?
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Yeah, so I got two different answers for you. I
think Josh Jacobs probably has the most left in his tank.
And I think in that offense with what coach Lasor does,
I think that's a very exciting combination. I think that's
really going to be good. With the young wide receivers
Jordan loved. It's just a really potent offense with a
lot of youth and a lot of speed in it,
and so I love that. So I think in terms
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of longevity, I think it's there. But I think the
best fit is going to be Derrick Henry. I just
think by what they try to do to you from
an offensive standpoint, with the threat of Lamar Jackson at
any moment running but also being able to hit the
deep ball and the speed that they have at wide
receiver to be able to make you have to respect that.
I think Derrick Henry becomes a huge problem in a
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division that's you know, kind of known as a black
and blue division. It's going to certainly hurt. And you
know this is going to be staying in the AFC.
But you know, having new opponents for Derrick Henry, you know,
Doug standing next to him without pads, He's huge standing
next to with pads. It's shocking. And you know, I
just think that this system is going to be really
great to fit for Derrick Henry, and I think that
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this could propel you know, the Ravens. They have almost
three thousand yard rushing this year.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I guess my question though is and obviously the offense
is different, right, so can he can he play in
Baltimore's offense. I know they want to run the football,
but I don't know if they want to run the foot
the way in which Derek Henry likes run the football. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I think they will, though, you know, I think Harball
is willing to adjust. I think they've been so frustrated.
You know, they've had talented running backs in Baltimore, but
they can't seem to get them to stay on the field.
You know, multiple guys with multiple injuries. We know that
obviously a couple of them are out now with the
other Harball and in charger Land. But like Dobbins or
you know, Gus Edwards, you know those guys just they're
good players, but they can never stay on the football field.
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I don't think it's been Henry's problem, and I think
that's what's going to be nice about having him there is.
I think they're going to be able to say, hey,
look we're going to commit to twenty to twenty two
carries a game, plus be able to catch the ball
two or three times out of the backfield. That's what
we want to be. I think that's what they want
to be. They want to control the clock, but their
defents get out there as well. So I think it's
it actually will fit into what they're doing because I
think they'll finally have a running back they think is
going to be able to be available.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Rady. That's the
voice of Mark Dominic. Of course, he's been a general
manager in this league, scout front office executive, and he
joins us and gives us the inside of what really
happens within those offices. Okay, let's go to Miami to
stay in the state of Let's go in the state
of Florida.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
And they're a.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Bit of an impasse. Obviously, if you're Tua's guy, you
sit there and go like, all right, Trevor Lawrence, that's
our starting point. You know, He's we've had the same
amount of success at some level and you know, going
into the playoffs and maybe even the last two years
been better in the regular season, but there's been some injuries.
But that doesn't matter to agents. They just want to
take the comps and the last next highest number get
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better than Miami is balking at that. You're the general
manager of the Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
What do you do?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Yeah, I think this is tricky, right. I mean, he's
statistically been superior to Trevor Lawrence, not even in the
same I mean, it's it's been much much better than
what Trevor Lawrence is be able to put on tape
to this point. And yet you know, we've seen the
injury thing. That's such a big nemesis in this entire
contract thing. And I think it's also what I do
is I sit down, coach, and I'm like, is to
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everything you want at our quarterback based off of where
the system is. Is he the one that's making it
all happen or is that the guys around two and
he's able to deliver the ball? How much is he
factored in the win loss? And really get to the
nuts and bolts with the coach to make sure that
we're keeping the quarterback that we want to keep there
and to know that he's still got a delivered ball.
I like to a ton it's you know, it's completing
almost seventy percent of the passes last year. It doesn't
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matter who you are. That's hard to do. So it's
making sure he's the right fit for the system, and
then it's working with the agent and honestly too, being
very candid with to it in terms of like, this
is a very hard negotiation because I know internally one
hit could end it for his career based off the concussions.
Is that Do I expect that? No? But do I
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do I have to garter and protect the club from that?
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (25:41):
And so I look at this as dougas I think
it's more of like, let's do a three year deal.
Let's not do the traditional five year deal where everybody's
getting five years. Joe Burrow, Jaos Allen, you know all
these guys. Obviously Trevor Lawrence, I would do something tighter.
I would say, hey, look, I'm more than willing to
do something too. I just want a three year deal.
Let's make sure he stays healthy and on the field
for two three straight years, and then we'll talk about
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a bigger deal. Because he's still a fairly young quarterback.
So I think you look at a smaller deal, even
if at a two year extension plus this year now
to get him, you know, a very good, fair number
where the market is like you're talking about. But I
think that's the way you protect the club. And I
have a feel that it's a hard conversation because to
his people, I'm sure want to secure the bag with
a five year deal.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I'm sure they do too, But that doesn't mean you know,
I don't you know. That doesn't mean that that's that
you want to pay it. So it's like, look, it's
a it's a really really fascinating thing, and I just
I'm intrigued by how that ends up. Okay, Jordan Love,
similar question, right, it got him under contract this year.
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What are your thoughts on, Jordan Love?
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Yeah, I just want to see like five to eight
more games. I want to see him continue to be
the guy that I think he is. And then I
think we unlike the Steelers who don't negotiate during the season,
I would be more than open to negotiate with a
quarterback during the season. So I think, if I can
see five to eight more games, let's get started, let's
get things moving, or you know, if it doesn't go great,
say hey, look, I'm not going to stop wanting to
(27:04):
talk about it, but let's just put it on pod
when and focused on football. So I think I want
to see, you know, September, part of October, and then
be absolutely ready to go with the big number and say, hey,
look I've got fifty five in the bank. Maybe it's
fifty six or fifty seven. You bet on yourself and
I'll pay. And but I don't think the deal gets
done before camp. Maybe it does, but my gun is
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because you still want a little more data, and there's
no reason why you couldn't ask for, you know, from
the agents and the players say hey, look, we're going
to get near your number or to your number based
off how you start the season, but just give us
a little more data. Just to make sure because it's
such a big organizational decision for this franchise.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Hey, Mark, Isaac Lohenkron here, I'm afraid we just lost
our connection with Doug, So we appreciate your patience on that.
But I actually want to kind of ask you an
out of the box question from your experience as an
executive as it relates to what just happened in the
NBA with the Lakers not only drafting Brownie James, the
son of Lebron James, but hiring JJ Reddick, who has
(28:05):
no coaching experience but did the podcast with Lebron, as
a head coach. And I want to get your perspective
on the dynamics in the power structure between the NFL
and in the NBA, because I sense that Lebron James,
and deservedly so, has so much power that this sort
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of thing can happen that the Lakers can bring in
his podcast partners the new head coach, and they can
draft his son as the general manager. I don't think
that dynamic sort of power structure happens or exists right
now in the NFL. So how would you compare the
power structure in the NFL to the power structure in
the NBA as it relates to the players having the
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power vis a v executives and general managers in the like.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
Yeah, that's a great question. And you know, you would
think the closest person we've seen in that situation was
Tom Brady, but you like Bill Belichick still kind of
you know, controlled everything and still went defensive players over all,
since the receivers or they're white. So you just you
kind of saw that. You think that Patrick Mahons could
have a little more juice based off of Andy Reid's
personality as well as what Patrick's been able to put
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on tape, and maybe that's a reason why worthy he's
on that team. But in terms of making the choice,
I look at the NBA draft a little differently. Obviously,
the first round is very important for these clubs. I
don't think people realize how hard it is to make
an NBA roster, and when you're a second round pick,
it is really really hard. Turnover in the National Indian
NBA is so limited, and so to let them take
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Bronnie and if the rumors are true that lebron or
company the agent all said, hey, look, don't draft him,
We're going to draft him just leave it alone. I
think that makes sense, and I think there were scouts
out there that were kind of skeptical on Bronnie also,
but it is interesting to see a player be able
to pull some strings to be able to get things
he wants. Now, I think it's at the end. You know,
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Lebron's got what two three years probably at the best
in him and so I I think this with Ridika,
it's trying to get the right guys on the court
at the right time. And when you have the star
of the team saying this is a guy and it's
not like Rick doesn't understand the game, it will be
interesting to watch. Is such a one on one game,
so it's so different than football the way it's structured.
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That's what I think is going to be interesting. But
I don't think you'll see that in the National FOOTBA
League level, just because it's much more of a team
game than a one on one game. And I think
that's part of the reason why we saw what happened
at the Lakers and with that organization over this past week.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Great stuff. As always, Man, I really appreciate you joining
us here on the Doug Gottlibs Show. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
We'll talk So, yeah, I'm out of the Sack Summit, Doug.
So next week we'll talk about, you know, being out
here with Cam Jordan and Max Crosby and Von Miller.
I'm out here in Vegas. Is going to go through
this event with these guys and you can kind of
see what it's about.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And I'll let you get you guys know about it.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
What is it, Well, it's it's a clinic where we've
got all the pass pastors are invited in here in
the National Football League to come in for a two
day clinic. They do drills or and LV they do
a lot of film work, but they all come together.
You know, we've heard about ti End University and there's
online Masterminds. Well, tight End University just happened in National
then it came out here for Sack Summit in Las Vegas.
(31:10):
I'll be going to Oline Masterminds in Dallas. It's where
you bring players from all different teams come together just
talk about how do we get better? What are some
traits you use, Let's go watch some tape together, Let's
do some drills. I mean, what are your coaches doing?
So it's just a it's kind of a fun summit
to get everybody together, and it's been the brainchild of
Von Miller. You know again, Cam George is a big
part of it, so is Max Crossy out here. So
(31:30):
it'll be an interesting two day to start the seem
and runs all the way through tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Awesome stuff. Well, enjoy that little symposium with some workouts.
I'll catch up with you next week.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Sounds good, Dick, have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. Be
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Show FOK Sports Radio. Happy Friday to you. I hope
you're getting ready big plans this weekend, of course, and
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then you at for July on a Thursday next week. Right,
So I'm guessing I wonder how many percentage of people
actually going into work next week. I'll be working, We'll
be on radio all day all week next week. I'm
just wondering how many of you are going in well, anyway,
I hope you're driving out to wherever you're going. Be safe,
and let's get you to Isaac Loon Craw with the game.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
This is game time on the Doug Gottliab Show.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
So if you're just joining us, this is Friday, So
I loo, I think this is your first time doing.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
Is Friday.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Today is Friday.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I got DIBs.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I got DIBs.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
All right, So we'll open it up to you. Iowa,
Sam and Bursh Who you have DIBs on on these
various sundry hot button sports topics. First of all, anybody,
anybody who was drafted in this year's NBA draft, who
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do you have DIBs on? Could be any of the
what fifty eight selections?
Speaker 9 (33:14):
M I got DIBs on Alex Saar Nah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I was actually the one who was.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
All right, you're being diagnosed with sar oh.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I mean this is sor Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I was pretty scary back in the day.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I got DIBs on Cody Williams. Williams Colorado? Do you
go Colorado?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I won't say Colorado anymore. They don't say Washington anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
No, I like people also used to call Missouri Missura.
I'm like, why still do still do.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Anybody got drafted from Iowa?
Speaker 8 (33:52):
There?
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Iowa?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Sam? Are you going? Are you're just going with Caitlin Clark? Yes,
call drafts.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
I guess I'll take dibbs on Zach Edy. You know,
he was just great career and I want him to
succeed at the NBA level. And I know, Doug you
had issues with him, you know, flowing with John Moran
and if that'll work out, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I thought Zach Edi, though, had a hell of a
college career.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
So great college career. I'll take dibbs on Zach Edy,
a great college career. You know, they used to say
in the NBA, if you're gonna make a mistake, make
a big mistake. That's big, and that's what they mean.
They mean, take a big guy.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
All right, I'm deeply insulted that none of you went
with Ariel hook Porty fifty eighth overall pick for the
Dallas Maverick's going to take the NBA by storm, all right.
Next item, Now, we just finished the Stanley Cup Final
and the Florida Panthers are still partying, but we also
have a couple of big soccer tournaments going on right
now in Euro twenty twenty four and the Copa America.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So with that in mind, at the Copa Copa America.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
The hottest spot north of all right, which fans of
a sport are the the best at partying? For example,
fans of hockey, fans of the NFL, college football, soccer.
Who do you have DIBs on as the fans of
a particular sport that are the best at having a
good time.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
I got dims in college football, Yes, I got DIBs
on soccer, international soccer. The other countries just get absolutely
wild for their teams.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
They get wild. But I feel like the partying aspect
is college football is a little bit better in terms
of I'm just going by word for word what I look.
Because they they burn stuff, they sing, they celebrate, But
in terms of just the party, like the Grove on
a Saturday before an Old Miss game. Sure you know
LSU under the Tiger Stadium under the lights.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I think, I think, Birch. What you mean is stadium.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It's whole countries coming to a standstill when their team
plays any international soccer game.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
Is that what you mean, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, the
international involvement is wild. But college football was a was
number one on my board, So I don't disagree with you, Doug.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
Those soccer hooligans, they take partying to the level of
being just dangerous and reckless and like almost malicious, and
like I'm just gonna drink so much that I just
barfall over the place and I pass out in the
concourse of the stadium. So I don't know, I think
soccer here's.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
The here's the thing though about the soccer deal, right, Like, man,
some people get people get so drunk and then you're
around people with flares and you get the hooligans, Like,
I don't know, that's not the kind of people, Whereas
I feel like college football dude gets hammered.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
But do we have a third?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Was there anybody else that wanted dibbs?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
We had college.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Football national cricket fans.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Oh I got well, I can't. I already had DIBs.
You guys are missing a couple of big ones.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Let's hear them.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, I can only have DIBs on I have DIBs
on it was the rules of the game. Otherwise I
would have said golf, right, not every not everyone, but
in terms of parties, like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Management, interesting thought provoke. I will I will say this.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
The Edmonton Oilers chick, right, she like that's she likes
to party.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh yeah, there you go. She's doing very well from
a business standpoint. I've heard allegedly and reportedly and by
the way, I will just I will just finish up
this particular item. Soccer is the only time we've ever
seen a team having to be evacuated by helicopter from
its own championship parade, with Argentina at the most recent
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World Cup.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
All right, take this in any direction.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You want careful people in sports that you are sick
and tired of hearing of.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Who do you have DIBs on?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Man, there's a long list. Yeah, people in sports I'm
tired of hearing of.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
And please don't say me, because We've already had multiple
answers and.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm good on a bunch of people. I just I'll
let somebody else, anybody else. I want to hop in
on this one, So I don't.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
I mean, I got divs on Antonio Brown. I don't
want to hear anything from him anymore.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
He's kind of reached. He's kind of funny, right now,
like where I'm like Kaepernick, I'm good on the Kaepernick stuff.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Sure, yeah, it's been a minute.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
He hasn't played in the NFL in eleven years and
he wasn't good or I think the last time he
was good at twenty thirteen, So it's like like eleven
years ago, Like, let's let that thing go. Anybody else, iload,
do you have one you want to throw in?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
This is not about her, It's more of the sports
media culture. But Mark, yeah, and it's not about her.
It's about the sports media culture. I just want to
hear about her as a player, as a rookie, whatever,
But every little thing that happens associated with her does
(38:51):
not have to be blown up every single day into
a sociological discussion. So it's not about her, It's about
the sports media culture surrounding her.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Shows.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Doug Goallap Show here on Fox Sports Trader you ever
heard of Frosty Friday? Like, yeah, I do, I know
Frosty Friday is coming up next. You will love this
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
And we're moments away from hearing what Doug has to
say about the inevitable happening last night the Los Angeles
Lakers indeed drafting Browny James with a fifty fifth overall pick,
and we look forward to hearing Doug discuss the many
(00:39):
ramifications of what I felt was totally inevitable. But for
the moments, officially we're not hearing from Doug just yet
because of technical difficulties.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
In between you and me.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And this is Isaac Lahencron here at Isaac Lahenkron on
social media wh here were welcome between you and me.
I actually played that sound effect myself. The fellows in
the control room can actually not hear me because they're
scrambling around trying to connect with Doug. What they don't know,
and what I'm about to tell you is I was
(01:15):
so eager to get a lot of things off my
chest and onto the chest of my many inferiors. That
a few minutes ago, I walked into the control room
and I very subtly pulled a plug and that has
prevented Doug from speaking to you. And until they get
that fixed, America, I'm all yours. You're welcome. Here's the thing.
(01:42):
It was totally inevitable because it was a second round pick.
I mean second round picks. You're really not on the
hook for too much contract wise. They might not even
eventually plan the team, they might go down to the
developmental leagues, whatever. But I'm looking at it from Browny
James standpoint, and honestly from the stamp point of a
kid looking to work with their parents.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Now, if you're a young.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Man and you're going to be in the NBA and
you're going to have this dazzling, incredible lifestyle where you
get to travel on chartered planes and stay in six
star hotels, yes, not even five star hotels, six star hotels.
Let me put it this way. Being in the NBA
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as a player carries with it a certain opportunity to
have a prolific social life. You're young, you're in your
teens or early twenties. Do you really want your old
man hanging around when you have the opportunity to go
on the road and enjoy the social life in the NBA.
(02:53):
And I'm looking at this from a parent standpoint and
my children. I'll be honest with you, and this is
maybe a form of therapy for me. My children are
seven and nine. They barely want anything to do with
me unless they need food or a ride. No, no, no,
(03:14):
as it should be. As it should be. So among
the many ramifications that Doug is about to discuss from
a basketball standpoint and a business standpoint, I mean, let's face.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
That they're not the Los Angeles Lakers. They're the Los
Angeles Lebron's.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The whole thing was completely completely inevitable. But look at
it from a basketball standpoint. For Blonnie James' career, this
puts so much pressure and focus on someone who is
the fifty fifth overall pick in the NBA draft. Has
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there ever been any pressure at all or any focus
on a fifty fifth overall pick in NBA history? So
I understand, yes, it's a thrill for Lebron to be
on the same team as a son, but as a parent.
As a parent, do you really want your kid to
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face that sort of pressure unless you necessarily welcome it.
I mean, for example, in our line of work, sports broadcasting.
And I'll get to all your many tweets in a moment,
including this one, Isaac, please go back into the studio.
Plug that plug back in. We want to hear from
(04:37):
Doug not you. Yeah, really appreciate that. Ironically, that tweet
was actually sent by my wife, who I will now
block on social media.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
But look, in.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
The line of work that we are here at Fox
Sports Radio, sports broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You, I wouldn't want to my kids to go.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Into sports broadcasting because I know how crazy and wild
and competitive this field is, and how chaotic this field is.
I want them to just be a boring, normal something.
If they want to go into sports broadcasting, fine, Lord
knows they're not going to because they don't want anything
(05:21):
to do with me. Like I said, But from a
parenting standpoint, maybe we'll open this up to you America
at Isaac Lonkron Fox Sports Radio on social media. I mean,
do you really want your kid to a follow your
footsteps into your profession? And B do you want your
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kid to directly work with you. I personally just want
my kids to be completely free of my influence in
terms of their career choice. I want them to be
totally under the influence, if you will, of what I
try to teach them from a character standpoint. But I
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don't want them to be in my line of work
or to work directly with me. I want them to
just completely go out on their own, to be away
from my shadow. I mean, let's be honest, when my
kids find out that it is legal to change their names,
they're going to change it to something besides long Cron
(06:25):
because you know, it's a glowing crime. I see the
control room is finally listening to me once again and
peppering me with ill timed actually perfectly timed and sarcastic
sound effects. But you know your last name is Jones
or Smith or Wilson. Fine, but you know, if my
kids go around with the name long Cron, let's face it,
(06:47):
there's a big dark cloud because of me following that name.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So I want my.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Kids to just go out on their own and not
feel any pressure or am I wrong? But this is
where you come in around the country. At Fox Sports Radio,
at Isaac Lahncron. There is such thing as the family
business and the culture and the tradition of some families,
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not just basketball when it comes to Lebron. I mean,
you see it all the time in mom and pop restaurants,
and that gets passed from generation to generation, and that
is a huge, important, sacred deal, whether it be a diner,
a mom and pop restaurant, an the other line of business,
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a clothing store, a family law firm, and maybe families
across America just see it in a much different way
than maybe I see it right now. I mean, it'll
be one thing if personally I'm just a sports broadcaster
(07:56):
and that was a new thing in our family. But
what if I just like, maybe you, what if you
were born into a family that went back generations with
the same profession, maybe an attorney or a business or
a doctor. Is it a different expectation. Is it just
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part of your life that you're naturally expected to follow
in the footsteps of your previous generation.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I'm sorry, do we have Dan or Doug dan Byer?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Hello, Isaac kind I've been loving this conversation. I just
want in on it.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Haven't you heard enough of me today?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
You know that's funny because you are bringing up a
scenario that I've thought of myself. And sometimes when we
get caught up in the world of our own lives,
it doesn't necessarily translate. Nepotism in sports broadcasting like with
us within that realm has always been a huge thing, right, how.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
How dare you bring that up? By the way, coming
up at three pm today the debut of The Brody
Buyer Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
It maybe it may be happening at some point, right,
But like we've we've we've known, I mean, you know,
Joe Bucke has talked about it. The Carry family, that's
it's it's talked about a lot. There's even been recent
situations where, you know, Chris Collinsworth's son was doing stuff
on NBC. I no, Eagle's name is brought up because
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his dad's eye and Eagle. That's always been a conversation.
And I thought to myself, well, is that with Am
I just thinking of that because it's broadcasting or is
that near and dear to my you know, to.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
To what I do.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But then I think about like as as an athlete,
like in being drafted and being put in that certain spot.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
It's it's it's more like that.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Than it would be a coaching tree or anybody else
at any other company. I've seen people use Bill Belichick
son as an example of nepotism. But hiring you know,
Stephen Belichick to just be in a defense an assistant
coach on defense, I think is a lot different than
using a draft pick and taking a roster spot of
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someone that is very limited. So the actual Lebron James
aspect of it, I think translate closer to us in
broadcasting in terms of all right, you know, there's this,
there's only one chair that you can sit and introduce
NFL games or call Major League Baseball games. There are
a few opportunities there than there I think in coaching
trees or other you know, walks of life.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
At fairpoint, how would you address my point?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Because I think the like like I said, I might
be slightly exaggerating here, but my children rightly so want
nothing to do with me. Your son, however, worships the
ground you walk on from from a parenting standpoint. Would you,
obviously you want your son to do whatever he loves
(10:55):
as a career, but if he showed interest in our particular,
our particular line of work, just like our listeners might
have children who might be interested in whatever their line
of work is.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
How would you approach that as a parent?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I would try to encourage him to do what he
wants to do, and I would try to use I
guess my advantages anyway you know that could help him
along the way. It's just the fact of I wouldn't
expect him to be in the number one chair, you know,
(11:31):
in a in a big spot.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
As I'm saying this, I realized that, gosh, this has happened.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Like you know, no Eagles rise to fame is huge,
But Noah's also started out.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
As the Clippers play by play guy.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
You know, did work at Syracuse when he was a
student there, so it's not like he was just burst
onto the scene and was handed it right out of college.
I would expect my son as well, to end up
having like those sort of lumps, to have that sort
of experience, a way to pay your dues and then
be able to go on along the way. That's just
that's what I would end up doing if I would
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try to help him along the way. But by no
means what I expect anything, And that's what I think
is even part of this is this is kind of expected.
Like maybe the biggest news of yesterday, or the biggest
shock of yesterday, was that it actually did happen. We're
maybe used to like, no way, that's not going to happen.
But this has been talked about for so long that
it actually came to fruition. That may have been the
(12:26):
biggest surprise that they actually stayed to their point and yeah,
this is actually happening.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Bronnie James is drafted by the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Did it seem inevitable to you? At some point?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I thought so, But then it happened, and then I
thought maybe I didn't think it was inevitable. Inevitable and
just the point of where he could have signed as
a free agent, but I don't think that they wanted
that to be a part of it. You want to
be drafted. There's something about being drafted, and in the NFL,
they'll tell you it's better to maybe not be drafted
(13:00):
than the seventh round because then you can pick where
you can sign as an you know, undrafted free agent.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
But that's not the case here. He's only going to play.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
He was only wanted to play for one or two teams,
and there was the Lakers of the Suns apparently from
everything that we heard from.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
From the reports about Rich Paul.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
So that's you know that that's where I also thinking
maybe it goes a little bit too far, maybe to
they could have maybe added a better player. And I'm
not I'm not saying that the fifty fifth pick in
the NBA Draft is super valuable and it's been this
hotbed of talent throughout the years, but there is there
is You do have to weigh the effects of all, right,
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do we do Lebron a favor or should we look
out for the betterment of our team? And they chose
to do Lebron a favor instead of looking out the
betterment of the team.
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Here's why, here's why I love, you know, working here
at Fox Sports Radio, and here's why our listeners love
discussing and listening to these discussions, because it's all about
it's not just what is actually done, it's about the optics.
So hypothetically, Dan, because yours much of a follower of
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sports media and sports media culture, as I am. Hypothetically,
if the Lakers did not draft Brownie last night, what
would the dialogue, what would the narrative be today if
the exact opposite thing had happened last night.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I don't know if you're making a point, but I
if you aren't, I think that you are. I think
that the narrative would be good on the Lakers. Let's
see how he does as an undrafted free agent. Let's
watch him in summer league play for the Lakers, which,
by the way, the schedule came out, there are six
games that are going to appear on ESPN.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Three of those are Laker games.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You know, so sure that's a coincidence.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's you know, there's an Atlanta Washington one,
so you have the top two picks go against each other,
Zachary Ariza against Ale sar But I don't think it
would be I think that there would be I think
the Lakers would have gained points in that scenario. I
think lebron would have gained points in that scenario. Yeah yeah,
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instead of just letting it be and Bronni is who
Bronni is. That was the biggest part that I had,
or the biggest problem that I had where people trying
to convince us that he was worthy of the fifty
fifth overall pick, and I actually think that's kind of
unfair to Bronni because Bronni is who he is, that's
all that he can be. And it's maybe the people
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who put him in that situation, the Lakers, that are
the ones who should be put.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
To blame if they overdraft him. So Bronnie's just Bronnie.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
But if he wouldn't have been drafted, I think everybody
would have been cool with it. I think lebron would
have gotten points, think the Lakers would have gotten points.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And now all of a sudden, Bronni becomes.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Even more maybe of a player that you root for
and root to succeed that he can go and make
the Lakers team as an undrafted free agent, even though
we feel that it's a foregone conclusion that he'll be
on that team, considering the rhetoric that we heard leading
up to it. But I think it would have been
I don't think there would have been as much controversy,
if any controversy, if you wouldn't have been drafted.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I think that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And before you pay the final bill, here in this segment,
I think that you are giving too much credit to
the lunatics in the sports media cycle, because I think
a component today and all that is certainly valid. In fact,
it should be more valid than what I'm about to say.
But I think the narrative if they hadn't have drafted him, oh,
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Lebron at odds with the Lakers front office, Lebron furious,
Lebron's going to be on his way out of the
Lakers because they didn't draft Bronnie Lebron feels betrayed by
the Lakers for not drafting Bronni. I think that that
would have been a component of the narrative today, in
addition to the stuff you brought up, Because you know me,
I always like to assume the most controversial, asinine things
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are going to happen.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Well, and there is the free agency.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
We expect the opt out to happen, and then Lebron
not AIEU, but we expect the opt out to happen.
And if your scenario played out, maybe there is some
sort of question. I just don't know where he would
have gone, where he would have made the money that
he would want to make. And that's just where I
think that it stands, but a very very poignant points
(17:20):
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What what I think is behind it is really really interesting.
Obviously there's some uh, there's some uh not not in XENOPHOBI.
There's there's a lot of layers to it that we'll
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I like it.
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Plus I like Dibbs. I like Dibbs the ice cream.
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it should be pretty high on the on the uh
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Show on Fox Sports Radio. Of course, longtime executive scout
in the Nation Folloball League. Most he's a gentle manager
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of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and he joins us and Mark,
I want to ask you about Aaron Rodgers and missing
a mandatory camp. I know he's been doing it forever,
but the juxtaposition of Aaron this year and last year
is stark, especially considering he only played four snaps. Your
GM of the Jets, how do you handle it.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Yeah, I mean I didn't love it, Doug. I mean
I would. I'd like him to be there. He's been
there for the Offiction program. It's something that I think
would be nice to make sure that he kind of
finishes everything like the rest of the players. And yet,
you know, if he came to me early enough, I think,
you know, my goal would be is that you know,
it's been a distraction that didn't have to happen, and
it certainly could have been cleaned up before the Veteran
Mini Camp happened. And so now it's just a matter
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of really, he's gonna have to come out and be sharp,
answer the question real quick, be sharp and look really
good in his early games, and no one's going to
think twice about it. If he struggles, We're going to
continue to point back to, you know, is Aaron Rodgers
sell face as he struggled, you know, to do the
right thing at the right time or those kinds of things.
But from an optics it's not great. I would love
to know what the real reason was to say, you know,
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that's worthy or not.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
The other story last year, he was obviously a massive story.
The other story last year, I remember we were talking
about running backs and their values, and now we look
up and Josh Jay Gibbs is in Green Bay, Joe
Mixon's in Houston, Derrick Henry's in Baltimore, Saquon Barkley is
is in Philly. Who do you think has the best
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is the best fit and has the most left in
the tank?
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Yeah, so I got two different answers for you. I
think Josh Jacobs probably has the most left in his tank.
And I think in that offense with what coach Lasor does,
I think that's a very exciting combination. I think that's
really going to be good. With the young wide receivers
Jordan loved. It's just a really potent offense with a
lot of youth and a lot of speed in it,
and so I love that. So I think in terms
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of longevity, I think it's there. But I think the
best fit is going to be Derrick Henry. I just
think by what they try to do to you from
an offensive standpoint, with the threat of Lamar Jackson at
any moment running but also being able to hit the
deep ball and the speed that they have at wide
receiver to be able to make you have to respect that.
I think Derrick Henry becomes a huge problem in a
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division that's you know, kind of known as a black
and blue division. It's going to certainly hurt. And you
know this is going to be staying in the AFC.
But you know, having new opponents for Derrick Henry, you know,
Doug standing next to him without pads, He's huge standing
next to with pads. It's shocking. And you know, I
just think that this system is going to be really
great to fit for Derrick Henry, and I think that
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this could propel you know, the Ravens. They have almost
three thousand yard rushing this year.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I guess my question though is and obviously the offense
is different, right, so can he can he play in
Baltimore's offense. I know they want to run the football,
but I don't know if they want to run the foot
the way in which Derek Henry likes run the football. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I think they will, though, you know, I think Harball
is willing to adjust. I think they've been so frustrated.
You know, they've had talented running backs in Baltimore, but
they can't seem to get them to stay on the field.
You know, multiple guys with multiple injuries. We know that
obviously a couple of them are out now with the
other Harball and in charger Land. But like Dobbins or
you know, Gus Edwards, you know those guys just they're
good players, but they can never stay on the football field.
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I don't think it's been Henry's problem, and I think
that's what's going to be nice about having him there is.
I think they're going to be able to say, hey,
look we're going to commit to twenty to twenty two
carries a game, plus be able to catch the ball
two or three times out of the backfield. That's what
we want to be. I think that's what they want
to be. They want to control the clock, but their
defents get out there as well. So I think it's
it actually will fit into what they're doing because I
think they'll finally have a running back they think is
going to be able to be available.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Rady. That's the
voice of Mark Dominic. Of course, he's been a general
manager in this league, scout front office executive, and he
joins us and gives us the inside of what really
happens within those offices. Okay, let's go to Miami to
stay in the state of Let's go in the state
of Florida.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
And they're a.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Bit of an impasse. Obviously, if you're Tua's guy, you
sit there and go like, all right, Trevor Lawrence, that's
our starting point. You know, He's we've had the same
amount of success at some level and you know, going
into the playoffs and maybe even the last two years
been better in the regular season, but there's been some injuries.
But that doesn't matter to agents. They just want to
take the comps and the last next highest number get
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better than Miami is balking at that. You're the general
manager of the Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
What do you do?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Yeah, I think this is tricky, right. I mean, he's
statistically been superior to Trevor Lawrence, not even in the
same I mean, it's it's been much much better than
what Trevor Lawrence is be able to put on tape
to this point. And yet you know, we've seen the
injury thing. That's such a big nemesis in this entire
contract thing. And I think it's also what I do
is I sit down, coach, and I'm like, is to
(24:56):
everything you want at our quarterback based off of where
the system is. Is he the one that's making it
all happen or is that the guys around two and
he's able to deliver the ball? How much is he
factored in the win loss? And really get to the
nuts and bolts with the coach to make sure that
we're keeping the quarterback that we want to keep there
and to know that he's still got a delivered ball.
I like to a ton it's you know, it's completing
almost seventy percent of the passes last year. It doesn't
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matter who you are. That's hard to do. So it's
making sure he's the right fit for the system, and
then it's working with the agent and honestly too, being
very candid with to it in terms of like, this
is a very hard negotiation because I know internally one
hit could end it for his career based off the concussions.
Is that Do I expect that? No? But do I
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do I have to garter and protect the club from that?
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (25:41):
And so I look at this as dougas I think
it's more of like, let's do a three year deal.
Let's not do the traditional five year deal where everybody's
getting five years. Joe Burrow, Jaos Allen, you know all
these guys. Obviously Trevor Lawrence, I would do something tighter.
I would say, hey, look, I'm more than willing to
do something too. I just want a three year deal.
Let's make sure he stays healthy and on the field
for two three straight years, and then we'll talk about
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a bigger deal. Because he's still a fairly young quarterback.
So I think you look at a smaller deal, even
if at a two year extension plus this year now
to get him, you know, a very good, fair number
where the market is like you're talking about. But I
think that's the way you protect the club. And I
have a feel that it's a hard conversation because to
his people, I'm sure want to secure the bag with
a five year deal.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I'm sure they do too, But that doesn't mean you know,
I don't you know. That doesn't mean that that's that
you want to pay it. So it's like, look, it's
a it's a really really fascinating thing, and I just
I'm intrigued by how that ends up. Okay, Jordan Love,
similar question, right, it got him under contract this year.
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What are your thoughts on, Jordan Love?
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Yeah, I just want to see like five to eight
more games. I want to see him continue to be
the guy that I think he is. And then I
think we unlike the Steelers who don't negotiate during the season,
I would be more than open to negotiate with a
quarterback during the season. So I think, if I can
see five to eight more games, let's get started, let's
get things moving, or you know, if it doesn't go great,
say hey, look, I'm not going to stop wanting to
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talk about it, but let's just put it on pod
when and focused on football. So I think I want
to see, you know, September, part of October, and then
be absolutely ready to go with the big number and say, hey,
look I've got fifty five in the bank. Maybe it's
fifty six or fifty seven. You bet on yourself and
I'll pay. And but I don't think the deal gets
done before camp. Maybe it does, but my gun is
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because you still want a little more data, and there's
no reason why you couldn't ask for, you know, from
the agents and the players say hey, look, we're going
to get near your number or to your number based
off how you start the season, but just give us
a little more data. Just to make sure because it's
such a big organizational decision for this franchise.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Hey, Mark, Isaac Lohenkron here, I'm afraid we just lost
our connection with Doug, So we appreciate your patience on that.
But I actually want to kind of ask you an
out of the box question from your experience as an
executive as it relates to what just happened in the
NBA with the Lakers not only drafting Brownie James, the
son of Lebron James, but hiring JJ Reddick, who has
(28:05):
no coaching experience but did the podcast with Lebron, as
a head coach. And I want to get your perspective
on the dynamics in the power structure between the NFL
and in the NBA, because I sense that Lebron James,
and deservedly so, has so much power that this sort
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of thing can happen that the Lakers can bring in
his podcast partners the new head coach, and they can
draft his son as the general manager. I don't think
that dynamic sort of power structure happens or exists right
now in the NFL. So how would you compare the
power structure in the NFL to the power structure in
the NBA as it relates to the players having the
(28:49):
power vis a v executives and general managers in the like.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
Yeah, that's a great question. And you know, you would
think the closest person we've seen in that situation was
Tom Brady, but you like Bill Belichick still kind of
you know, controlled everything and still went defensive players over all,
since the receivers or they're white. So you just you
kind of saw that. You think that Patrick Mahons could
have a little more juice based off of Andy Reid's
personality as well as what Patrick's been able to put
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on tape, and maybe that's a reason why worthy he's
on that team. But in terms of making the choice,
I look at the NBA draft a little differently. Obviously,
the first round is very important for these clubs. I
don't think people realize how hard it is to make
an NBA roster, and when you're a second round pick,
it is really really hard. Turnover in the National Indian
NBA is so limited, and so to let them take
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Bronnie and if the rumors are true that lebron or
company the agent all said, hey, look, don't draft him,
We're going to draft him just leave it alone. I
think that makes sense, and I think there were scouts
out there that were kind of skeptical on Bronnie also,
but it is interesting to see a player be able
to pull some strings to be able to get things
he wants. Now, I think it's at the end. You know,
(29:56):
Lebron's got what two three years probably at the best
in him and so I I think this with Ridika,
it's trying to get the right guys on the court
at the right time. And when you have the star
of the team saying this is a guy and it's
not like Rick doesn't understand the game, it will be
interesting to watch. Is such a one on one game,
so it's so different than football the way it's structured.
(30:17):
That's what I think is going to be interesting. But
I don't think you'll see that in the National FOOTBA
League level, just because it's much more of a team
game than a one on one game. And I think
that's part of the reason why we saw what happened
at the Lakers and with that organization over this past week.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Great stuff. As always, Man, I really appreciate you joining
us here on the Doug Gottlibs Show. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
We'll talk So, yeah, I'm out of the Sack Summit, Doug.
So next week we'll talk about, you know, being out
here with Cam Jordan and Max Crosby and Von Miller.
I'm out here in Vegas. Is going to go through
this event with these guys and you can kind of
see what it's about.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And I'll let you get you guys know about it.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
What is it, Well, it's it's a clinic where we've
got all the pass pastors are invited in here in
the National Football League to come in for a two
day clinic. They do drills or and LV they do
a lot of film work, but they all come together.
You know, we've heard about ti End University and there's
online Masterminds. Well, tight End University just happened in National
then it came out here for Sack Summit in Las Vegas.
(31:10):
I'll be going to Oline Masterminds in Dallas. It's where
you bring players from all different teams come together just
talk about how do we get better? What are some
traits you use, Let's go watch some tape together, Let's
do some drills. I mean, what are your coaches doing?
So it's just a it's kind of a fun summit
to get everybody together, and it's been the brainchild of
Von Miller. You know again, Cam George is a big
part of it, so is Max Crossy out here. So
(31:30):
it'll be an interesting two day to start the seem
and runs all the way through tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Awesome stuff. Well, enjoy that little symposium with some workouts.
I'll catch up with you next week.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Sounds good, Dick, have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
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Show FOK Sports Radio. Happy Friday to you. I hope
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then you at for July on a Thursday next week. Right,
So I'm guessing I wonder how many percentage of people
actually going into work next week. I'll be working, We'll
be on radio all day all week next week. I'm
just wondering how many of you are going in well, anyway,
I hope you're driving out to wherever you're going. Be safe,
and let's get you to Isaac Loon Craw with the game.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
This is game time on the Doug Gottliab Show.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
So if you're just joining us, this is Friday, So
I loo, I think this is your first time doing.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
Is Friday.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Today is Friday.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I got DIBs.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I got DIBs.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
All right, So we'll open it up to you. Iowa,
Sam and Bursh Who you have DIBs on on these
various sundry hot button sports topics. First of all, anybody,
anybody who was drafted in this year's NBA draft, who
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do you have DIBs on? Could be any of the
what fifty eight selections?
Speaker 9 (33:14):
M I got DIBs on Alex Saar Nah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I was actually the one who was.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
All right, you're being diagnosed with sar oh.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I mean this is sor Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I was pretty scary back in the day.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I got DIBs on Cody Williams. Williams Colorado? Do you
go Colorado?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
I won't say Colorado anymore. They don't say Washington anymore.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
No, I like people also used to call Missouri Missura.
I'm like, why still do still do.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Anybody got drafted from Iowa?
Speaker 8 (33:52):
There?
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Iowa?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Sam? Are you going? Are you're just going with Caitlin Clark? Yes,
call drafts.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
I guess I'll take dibbs on Zach Edy. You know,
he was just great career and I want him to
succeed at the NBA level. And I know, Doug you
had issues with him, you know, flowing with John Moran
and if that'll work out, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I thought Zach Edi, though, had a hell of a
college career.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
So great college career. I'll take dibbs on Zach Edy,
a great college career. You know, they used to say
in the NBA, if you're gonna make a mistake, make
a big mistake. That's big, and that's what they mean.
They mean, take a big guy.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
All right, I'm deeply insulted that none of you went
with Ariel hook Porty fifty eighth overall pick for the
Dallas Maverick's going to take the NBA by storm, all right.
Next item, Now, we just finished the Stanley Cup Final
and the Florida Panthers are still partying, but we also
have a couple of big soccer tournaments going on right
now in Euro twenty twenty four and the Copa America.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
So with that in mind, at the Copa Copa America.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
The hottest spot north of all right, which fans of
a sport are the the best at partying? For example,
fans of hockey, fans of the NFL, college football, soccer.
Who do you have DIBs on as the fans of
a particular sport that are the best at having a
good time.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
I got dims in college football, Yes, I got DIBs
on soccer, international soccer. The other countries just get absolutely
wild for their teams.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
They get wild. But I feel like the partying aspect
is college football is a little bit better in terms
of I'm just going by word for word what I look.
Because they they burn stuff, they sing, they celebrate, But
in terms of just the party, like the Grove on
a Saturday before an Old Miss game. Sure you know
LSU under the Tiger Stadium under the lights.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I think, I think, Birch. What you mean is stadium.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It's whole countries coming to a standstill when their team
plays any international soccer game.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
Is that what you mean, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, the
international involvement is wild. But college football was a was
number one on my board, So I don't disagree with you, Doug.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
Those soccer hooligans, they take partying to the level of
being just dangerous and reckless and like almost malicious, and
like I'm just gonna drink so much that I just
barfall over the place and I pass out in the
concourse of the stadium. So I don't know, I think
soccer here's.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
The here's the thing though about the soccer deal, right, Like, man,
some people get people get so drunk and then you're
around people with flares and you get the hooligans, Like,
I don't know, that's not the kind of people, Whereas
I feel like college football dude gets hammered.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
But do we have a third?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Was there anybody else that wanted dibbs?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
We had college.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Football national cricket fans.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Oh I got well, I can't. I already had DIBs.
You guys are missing a couple of big ones.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Let's hear them.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, I can only have DIBs on I have DIBs
on it was the rules of the game. Otherwise I
would have said golf, right, not every not everyone, but
in terms of parties, like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Management, interesting thought provoke. I will I will say this.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
The Edmonton Oilers chick, right, she like that's she likes
to party.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh yeah, there you go. She's doing very well from
a business standpoint. I've heard allegedly and reportedly and by
the way, I will just I will just finish up
this particular item. Soccer is the only time we've ever
seen a team having to be evacuated by helicopter from
its own championship parade, with Argentina at the most recent
(37:33):
World Cup.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
All right, take this in any direction.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You want careful people in sports that you are sick
and tired of hearing of.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Who do you have DIBs on?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Man, there's a long list. Yeah, people in sports I'm
tired of hearing of.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
And please don't say me, because We've already had multiple
answers and.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm good on a bunch of people. I just I'll
let somebody else, anybody else. I want to hop in
on this one, So I don't.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
I mean, I got divs on Antonio Brown. I don't
want to hear anything from him anymore.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
He's kind of reached. He's kind of funny, right now,
like where I'm like Kaepernick, I'm good on the Kaepernick stuff.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Sure, yeah, it's been a minute.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
He hasn't played in the NFL in eleven years and
he wasn't good or I think the last time he
was good at twenty thirteen, So it's like like eleven
years ago, Like, let's let that thing go. Anybody else, iload,
do you have one you want to throw in?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
This is not about her, It's more of the sports
media culture. But Mark, yeah, and it's not about her.
It's about the sports media culture. I just want to
hear about her as a player, as a rookie, whatever,
But every little thing that happens associated with her does
(38:51):
not have to be blown up every single day into
a sociological discussion. So it's not about her, It's about
the sports media culture surrounding her.
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