July 31, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug talks about the now-notorious picture of Lebron James, Maverick Carter and the agent of Nikola Jokic on a yacht in Europe, and how Lebron's new business venture shows us who he cares about. Doug weighs in on Tom Brady's response to Scottie Scheffler. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst and prolific podcaster John Middlekauff onto discuss the headlines around the NFL. Plus, Chris Perfett takes Doug through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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Great thing about Milwaukee is there's a roof, so we
know we're playing today. Welcome in Hope. You made the
best of your day and you continue to do so.
We've got a great show for you planned including who's
a better dad, Scottie Scheffler or Tom Brady. Uh Jay
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Stu has one opinion. I have the polar opposite opinion.
We'll discuss you can think about it. By the way,
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well I might not have it because I'm trying to
do something with my body or I'm model which what
I what he eat, or there's not one in my
town or whatever. But I don't think there's anybody's like,
you know, I don't like it. Look dry Queen now,
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protesting dairy Queen would be very very lonely, very lonely.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yes, emmy, sorry, we are just starting the show. But
I was curious, what are your favorite what's your favorite
Blizzard combo?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I mean, I'm an oreo cookie guy, like put Puru
in there. But I again, they didn't ask me. They
asked my favorite blizzard. What they didn't ask me is
what I like to order from DQ. Dip cone? Oh yeah,
vanilla dip it in the chocolate. Oh man, so good,
so good. And by the way, again, per Hay has
got leave my son who knows about chicken strips and
chicken sandwiches from every spot. He's DQ, he says, underrated.
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I was like, I don't know where they rank in
the rankings. It's like, no, no, no, that the chicken strips
or chicken fingers, whatever they call it, they're all the same.
They're fantastic at DQ. So there you go. There's your
there's your q D, and everybody else is not like yeah,
I kind of do like DQ. I may not have it,
but I like it. No one dislikes it. Okay, I'll
give you somebody that people do are. It's polarizing, like
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and dislike is Lebron James. So there was this picture
of Lebron Maverick Carter, his agent, and Nikolae Jokicic's agent
on a boat and there's lots of like, what are
they talking about? Is Lebron going to Denver? Is Yokich
coming to La what's going on then I don't know
it was yesterday or earlier today, it was yesterday. It
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came out that the conversation was in regards to Maverick
Carter starting a league, some international league where you have
men's teams and women's teams and it'll be like Live
Golf only for the NBA. Like wow, that's genius, right.
Everybody takes an idea, and I like, I don't know
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if Kudoba came for or if Chipotle came first, but
somebody stole somebody else's fast casual idea, right, And then
you look at all the fast cash places. Then you
guys have had kava, like kava came in, Like I
will do the Greek form of it. There is an
Indian food form of it. But as I told you,
no disrespect to my Indian brothers and sisters, but I
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just I don't do Indian food. It's like the only
thing I don't do. I don't. I just don't. It's
just not my jam. But the bigger point is, like
you know, I obviously Live has made a lot of
people a lot of money. It has broken through. They
have partnered with the PGA. No one knows, you know,
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what's going to happen to in the future. But a
lot of guys have gotten rich off it, and it's
it's interesting, and they try and do the kind of
rock and roll NBA introductions and try and spice it
up whatever. And golf, which can be seen as lame,
is trying to be made cool by live golf. Whatever
level of whether it's working or not working, it's still surviving.
You guys are still getting paid and so it's lasted
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this long, so it has worked. But but I have
a hypothesis that I'd like to share with you, and
you tell me if it makes sense. Okay. Chris Prefett,
by the way, is filming it for Dan Byer's here. Hey,
welcome and Chris, of course you got Iowa, Sam and
m Aman j Stew. Okay. So I think most people
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who watch and cover the NBA are familiar and some
people are not that Lebron James has made it very
very clear he nearly wants to own an NBA team.
He wants to own a Vegas expansion team. Vegas expansion team.
And many of you are driving along, you're sitting your cubicle,
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or you listen to the DG Show. Maybe you're listen
to us on the app and you're like, yeah, I
remember something about that. Okay. So I think, first of all,
this this meeting very easily could have happened in secret
and no one knows about it. Why would somebody take
a picture and then put it out on social media?
Because they want you to know it's happening, right, that's inarguable.
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I don't have to talk to somebody in Lebron's camp
or Yokich's camp to know that the reason it was
out on social media is they want you to know
what's happening. Why would they want you to know what's happening. Well,
there's only two possible reasons. One Lebron was told he's
not getting a team, which is altogether possible, maybe even likely,
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because as deep as Lebron's pockets are, they're not that deep.
They're not that deep. The Lebron being worth a billion
dollars it sounds good, it's very likely to not be
real because I'm sure a lot of it is tied
up in Nike stock and in other stocks. Not that
that doesn't count in your terms of your evaluation, but
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I think a lot of it is based upon his
personal brand, his personal value, not how much actual cash
he has or how much how many actual assets he
has and whether not those assets equal out to a
billion dollars ember NBA teams. We just watched the Lakers
go for ten billion dollars billion, So I know NBA players,
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and Lebron seems to be the richest of them, but
that pales in comparison to the guys that are in
the in the financial financial markets. So there's one of
only two possibles that I've come up with. Either one,
he was told he's not getting a team and this
is his way of going. Or two, he wants to
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leverage his way to getting a team, and the only
way to get leverage is if you don't get me
this team, I'm going to go out and form this
other league that's gonna be in competition with you with
the hopes of ultimately getting a team. That way. That's
the only two possible solutions I can think of, or
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reasons I can think of why Lebron would nullly have
this meeting. Having the meeting, you could take a meeting
with anybody, but why do you want to take a
picture of it? Why do you want people to know
what it was about why do you want to know
why do you want to include Nikolay Jokic's agent in it.
It's pretty obvious right that this is I'm sure they're
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going to sell it as this is our next step.
This is what we do after we retire, is we
own NBA teams. We force expansion into Europe by putting
together teams in Europe, and then ultimately they joined the NBA.
Or maybe it's because we make them pay us, we
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make them give us a seat at the table, or
maybe it's an fu The issue with any league outside
of the NBA in comparison to the golf is golfers,
outside of their sponsorship money, if they don't play well
on Thursday and Friday, they don't get paid, they don't
get to hang around for Saturday and Sunday, whereas NBA
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players they're plenty well compensated. And oh yeah, by the way,
that money is based upon TV deals, and a new
league wouldn't have enough teams, nor would have the star
power to have those big TV deals. And if the
sale was, hey, we're gonna launch with Lebron James, the
problem is that by the time Lebron James's contract expires,
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say they start a new league and he is the
centerpiece of it. He'll be forty one years old and
it'll be playing against rummies, and it will diminish all
the things he did in the NBA. It just will.
That's the reality to it. Okay, it'll diminish what he's
done in the NBA. And the last part and maybe
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the most important part to it that this is my takeaway,
and it may not sit well with you, but I
know it to be reality, which is Lebron has never
cared about Laker fans or being a Laker. He clearly
doesn't care about being a Miami Heat and very likely
doesn't care about being a Cleveland Cavalier and what all
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that represents because he left there twice, and conducting such
a meeting and allowing your agent with a firm that
you started to tweet out that picture showing that you're
trying to do harm to the league that has helped
make you into a billionaire, only shows that Lebron James
cares only about the relationships of people he knew in
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high school. And that's it. That's it. He cared about
JJ Reddick and their relationship. He never would allow his
agent to go public and say they're basically they're not
a championship team. If he cared about the Lakers, he
wouldn't do so many of the things he's done while
being a member of the Lakers. Who discussed this, is
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he cared about being a member of the Miami Heat,
he would have just left. Why they played in four
NBA finals, it won two of them. He shown no value,
nor has he ever claimed that as partner. You know,
this is who Lebron is. It definitely tracks he's somebody
who doesn't actually care about anybody outside of his inner circle.
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And again that's okay with the exception of the fact
that he desperately want to be loved by everybody and
cared for by everybody. But those are really transactional relationships.
So the big takeaways from Lebron meeting with Jokic's agent
is I think it's a leverage play or an fu
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play because he was either told he's not going to
get a team, or he wants to try and force
himself to getting a team, and the only way he
can do it is to force his way by helping
create this new league. The miscalculation is that league has
zero value unless it has stars, and the best star
would be Lebron James, who, don't get me wrong, people
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would come out and watch in you know, if he's
start trying to start a league, people would watch, but
they're not going to pay attention to a league. And
then at some point when your best and most known
player retires, then what you have nothing. It feels like
it's simply a leverage play in order to get the
NBA to give him that team in Vegas, which they
may or may not have during the next cycle.
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on top of your screen. You guys heard what Scotty
Scheffler said. Was that two weeks ago?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Here's Scotty Scheffler a couple weeks ago talking about this
is before the Open Championship, by the way, talking about
where flight bounds.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
That's why I talk about families being my priority, because
it really is. You know, I'm blessed to be able
to come out here and play golf. But if my
golf ever started affecting my home life or whatever affected
the relationship I have with my wife or with my son,
you know, that's gonna be the last day that I
play out here for a living.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know, this is not the be all end all.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
This is not the most important thing in my life.
And that's why I wrestle with why is this so
important to me? Because you know, I would much rather
be a great father than I would be a great golfer.
You know that at the end of the day, that
that's what's more important to me.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, So what makes a great father? Can you Can
you be both? Can you be both? Here's Tom Brady
on Scotty Scheffler. Oh, I'm sorry, Tom Brady talking about
Scotty Scheffler. I thought this was super super interesting right
where he he just had a different perspective on it
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and one that'll just be honest, I kind of share,
he said. Scotty said he'd rather be a better father
and husband than a good golfer. My question is why
are those mutually exclusive? Now? Again, if I was to
go through it, I don't think they were. But he
said if there was ever a chance that they were,
that's when he would shut it down. But regardless, sure
they're different blocks on the pyramid, but they're part of
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the same pyramid. They're connected. For instance, I think being
part of a part of being a great father is
an example of doing what it takes to take care
of your family. I choose to do it by playing football.
My dedication to the sport, the hours of practice, the
moments when I was laser focused. Those were times when
I believe I was doing the best possible thing for
my family and my kids by prioritizing my profession and
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teaching by example what it takes to be really good
at true chob But it takes a follow through with
commitments what it takes to be a great teammate and
showing them also by example that work is a big
part of all of our lives. I'll just give the
floor to you, Jay Stuke, because you have a very
pointed criticism of Brady in this correct.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yeah, it just doesn't it doesn't pass the smell test
to me. I think this is an easy thing to
say after I think it's the kind of a way
of justifying all the time spent away from your kids
that I was setting an example for them. This is
what I know about Tom Brady. And again, nobody knows anything.
Nobody was in their house other than the family. But
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this is what I know. In the wake of the roast,
what did we hear?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
We heard the.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Ex complaining that he put his kids in that situation
with the roast, and we've heard Tom himself say I
regret doing the roast because of what was said about
my family. So it's just really strange to see him
obviously internalize what Scotty Scheffer said, like Tom took that
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personally and this is his way of justifying it that
I spent all that time away for my kids to
be a great example, and that's part of being a
great father. I I just don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You don't think that's part of being a great father.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
No, I don't believe that was a part of Brady's
motivation to be great. I think Brady is built differently
than Scheffler. Scheffler is unfulfilled by kicking people's ass. That
was something that was very fulfilling for Brady. They're just
built differently. But I think Brady kind of took it
personally what Scotty said.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh, I listen again when you when you've gone through
a divorce, and I have, so I can speak on
this one right, especially when you are you know, look,
I'm not Tom Brady. But similarly, in terms of there's
there's times in which you're away from home that most
ads are not away from home. Now there's times which
you're home where most dads are not home either, but
no one chooses to recognize that. But I think you're
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talking about and when we were talking about it off air,
you were talking about resentment and his kids probably resent
you know, those last couple of years of playing football
when he could have been with them. And my thought is, okay,
with twofold one, you'll end up resenting your kids if
you turn down a great work opportunity for your kids.
And secondly, I just disagree with your whole premise of it.
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I think that's part of being a great dad. Yes,
you do, you know, And if I look back, there
should have been times in which I prioritize stuff. My
thing was I tried to get home as quickly as
possible when I was done. I would take the last
flight out in the first fight back. That's what I
would do. But no, I never said no to work
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opportunities because I thought, I thought, I do. I agree,
that's a good chance to show your kids, Hey, my
dad he grinds everything we have is because he's gonna work. Now,
do you have to at some point in off seasons
and smart times say hey, I need to diut back,
I need to put my phone away, I need to
be a human being. Sure. Sure, maybe it's because I'm
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much more aligned with the Brady perspective than the Scottie
Scheffler perspective. But I think it's completely unfair to think
that's not being a good father. Right. Every kid is different,
every relationship is different, every job is different. And oh yeah,
by the way, like the thing about Tom Brady is
he it wasn't like he can go like, hey, my
kids are a little older now I'm gonna take this
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fall off and not play football. You go and play
football for a certain amount of time. His window was
wider or bigger than it allowed him to play longer
than most. But now he'll never play football ever again. Ever. Ever,
So I would I would defend Brady from the I'm
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in agreement. I think think you can be both. What
it takes in order to make it work is you
have to take You have to have a spouse that
is that is committed to that exact same lifestyle to championing. Hey,
when your dad goes out to work, it's because this
is what he loves to do. And whatever you love
to do, we want you to go all in on it.
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Maybe I'm sharing too much Jays too, but like, this
is the exact conversation I have with my ex wife
last year when I took this job. How can you
take a job in Wisconsin? Now I know I've I've
lived a year away from my son. It's the hardest
part of anything I've ever done in my life. My
day start my son, the sun rises and SATs based
upon him. My girls are in college and they're they're
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they're away from me as well. But again, that's part
of the kind of natural cycle of life. Do I
wish I was closer? Yeah? But how much would I
resent my son or our relationship if I had not
taken this job and never gotten a coaching opportunity. I
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don't know. I don't know what you know. Again, this
is a it's a difference on perspective, whereas I think
it should be a championed. Hey, you always dreamed of
something in life. You got that opportunity. It wasn't perfect.
There is no perfect there just Isn't you do the
best you can Otherwise you end up presenting things that
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held you back on a wast middle cooff in a second.
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Stuck Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, Jase,
do you mind if I bring up our morbid topic
as we await John middlcofugh our morbid topic which I
put on the chat. But that's because I didn't honestly
know that our schedule day was Did you see this
woman was killed hiking hiking in was that it was.
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I don't know where Tulum Grove is. Anyway, she was
admiring these giant sequoias. They heard a large, large crack
and a sequoia tree fell on her. Hey, the lesson here,
Jay Stu is, don't go hiking. I know you go hiking,
like every day, you and your hot girlfriend, you go,
you go hiking every day.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I'll pass that along to my super hot girlfriend. Will
see what she says.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
There you go. Uh that is that a great way
to go or a bad way to go? Because you know,
you do get that hikers high. You're up in the sequoias,
you're checking it out, You're like ah, and then all
of a sudden boom. I don't know. It's a tough one.
John Middlecoff joints YS three and Ounce of the podcast.
Uh middle cough. I'm sure you heard Scheffler obviously have
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the Going Low podcast talk about work life balance. Did
you hear what Tom Brady said kind of as a
retort to.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
That, Yeah, that they're all intertwined.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I think every human is different. I think there is
no disputing in any competitive field that takes a lot
of time. Obviously, pro sports any industry, right, you know,
be good at media, to be a good coach, you
name it. How could they not be intertwined, right, I mean,
part of the reason you're spending so much time to
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try to be good at your craft is to help
provide for your family. I think the difference and this
is where Scottie because of Live and all the money
that came into golf. I mean, in like two years
he made a hundred million dollars, but took it took
Tom a long time to make like the fame as
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Tom Brady, the guy that we see now. I think
if you look back in like the two thousands, like he,
obviously you're gaining trying to gain respect, to win another
Super Bowl, but also to like create like this highly
paid operation. It was not like that early in most
of these guys careers. No difference in Jordan. I heard
someone say that the other day that you know, Beck,
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when we were kids, right in basketball, these guys a
little like Tyger Woods. The circuit of your corporate sponsors.
It was a really big deal because obviously you were
making good money playing basketball in the eighty to whatever,
Michael Jordan, you were making way more money if you
could sling sneakers and Gatorade and those ads with McDonald's
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or whatever. And now it's like, you're paying Devin Booker
seventy five million dollars a year and a team wins
thirty games, who even doesn't have to do anything else.
So I think there's this And I'm not comparing Scotti
shefferd to Devin Booker, but my point is, I do
think the money has just gotten so outraged. I mean,
how many Fortune five hundred CEOs. Smith's making fifty million
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dollars a year. So I think that's really kind of
thrown everything out of balance a little bit in terms
of the way people look at stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of John Middlcoff. All right, let's get to some
football stuff. I was at Packer camp. Was that two
days ago? Oh yeah, and they're starting to talk, Hey,
super Bowl, super Bowl. My issue is what they do
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to address the pass rush. And like, I'm willing to
believe Jordan Love can keep getting better. I love the
matt Matthew Golden Pick. Everybody says he's been as good
or better than advertised. Great, but you're not wait unless
your pet pressure of the passer. Can they.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
That's a good question. I mean, obviously I think their
defense was good last year that they haven't had I mean,
you go back a long time, probably till since one
of the Klay Matthews, you know, a guy that would
be viewed as like a dominant dominant like you know,
way back in the day, Reggie White. But you know,
look at the teams now that have top guys. It's why, hey,
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if Miles Garrett or Max Cross, We're going to potentially
get traded three or four months ago, you know, I
mean we the Packers would have been a team that
would have been all over those guys. Now, I think
that their defense and their team is really more of
a group and a unit and a well coached operation
than like some star studded group, right. I mean, they
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have a couple of really good players. You know, Jacob's
a really high end player. You know, Kenny Clark has
had a really good career. But I don't view them
as like four or five like what the Niners have
been the last couple of years. What the Eagles are now.
They're more of like a group and you know, depending
on their coaching. That's why they hired what's his name
from Boston College who was, you know, coach in the
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NFL for a while. Halfway and obviously their head coaches
the play caller. But I think the big question mark
with them did you read that article maybe like within
the last month on the athletics on ed policy. Obviously
he gets hired, you know, you know, filling in for
Murphy and with their operations unlike all these other team
because they don't have an owner, that guy kind of
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operates as the boss. Yeah, and these guys are going
into you know, not their contract year, but kind of
because they have two years left. So at the end
of this year, Lapour and gutikins, like you don't usually
do lame duck, right, that's very very rare in the NFL.
You know that there's some pressure on this operation to win. Now.
I think both those guys are good, like I, you know,
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unless it was a disaster and some crazy things happen,
I wouldn't be in the business of getting rid of
those two guys. But in this article, like he had
some comments, you know, he didn't hire these guys. There's
an evaluation period. I don't think most people outside of
kind of the packers' bubble quite realizes because people just assume,
you know, stable organization. These guys aren't going anywhere. But
there's an underlying you know, it's almost like a new
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owner came in and obviously this guy, you know when
I was a kid, Carmen Policy. I don't even know
what his equivalent would be now, but he was like
this unique consigliore for Eddie de Bartelow. But he was
like kind of the GM worked with Bill Walsh kind
of not. I mean, he's a football guy. So they
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got there's an elefit in the room, in that organization
with those two guys, like pressure on them, Like is
winning ten games and just being one and done in
the playoffs good enough? You tell me you were there.
You gotta vibe? I mean, is that that's something people
are kind of talking about underlying a little bit.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Like yeah, hey, it's time to start winning games. You know,
home playoff game is big. Tell met a home playoff game.
And I just think, also, if you're honest about the division,
the Lions kind of boat raced them and took over
the division. Well, the Lions lose both coordinators and some players, right,
they might look different this year. The Vikings third quarterback
in three years and he's essentially a rookie. And then
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the Bears, you know, may or may not have figured
it out, but you don't think they're going to figure
it out in year one. No, So this is a
year where you have your quarterback back, you have most
of your team back, and you've added good pieces barring injuries. Yeah,
I think there are expectations. Is this year that at
least home playoff game, and they're talking about Super Bowl,
which is something that you just don't hear.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I think I'm gonna I mean, I'm gonna pick them
probably to win the division, might even throw a little
cash on it. They went one and five in the
division last year, Yeah, and won eleven games. So if
you just think you're pretty comfortable playing your opponents, if
you're a good team, at minimum, you shoul go three
and three. So if you just go, well, if they
went three and three, intoir quarterbacks a little healthier, why
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couldn't they win thirteen fourteen games this year? I think
that's now Again, like you said, you know, pass rush,
just the overall roster, I mean you're there. They got
some good offensive Linemen. But do you go, God, they
got There's DeVante Adams, there's Klay Matthews, there's Aaron Rodgers
and doesn't quite feel like that anymore, right, No, it
(28:50):
does not.
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Speaker 4 (29:03):
I mean, I would imagine he just signs here three weeks,
like a week before the season, but you know, like
always with these guys. And I saw Stephen, who's in
a weird position, right, I mean, he's in the position
because of his father. I can imagine he probably looks
at some things differently than his dad. But he had
a comment the other day that, you know, we don't
drag our feet on these negotiations. It takes two to
(29:24):
tango essentially. Well yeah, I mean it takes two to
tango and all these deals that always gets signed way
before the end of training camp all around the league.
You guys just kind of operate differently. So if that
you're fighting over the last million dollars, that causes you
to lose weeks upon weeks and I think even Dak
said it a couple of days ago or maybe a
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week ago. They're like, yeah, everything's going to work itself out.
We see this song and dance every single year with somebody,
so it's like the players are used to it. I mean,
it's just kind of I don't know if it's my
theory's always been wherever his cash is, he doesn't like,
you know, not making that that money, that that interest
on the money till the last possible second. Maybe it's
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simply is like he's still kind of ego driven to win,
thinking he wins these negotiations even though it always feels
like he lose them. But you know, at this point time,
it's like they're trading the guy. So I would imagine
in three weeks they give him, you know, Adam Schefter
tweets out, Michael Parson has just got a record breaking
deal for X number, X number of guaranteed dollars, and
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you know that's you know, or I don't think that
happens with Cincinnati. You know, I think they're pretty dug
in on, like re ain't budget, they didn't budge with
the with the rookie, which the more and more I
don't know if he saw some of the interview, did
like one of their local podcasts did with the agent.
I mean that's I'll defend Mike Brown on that situation.
I mean that was more honest. But this Hendrick's thing,
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I mean, obviously he wants a lot more money. He's
an older player, doesn't feel like they're going to budge
and like any veteran player, you can't. You can't wave
the fines like you can. Michael persons that he was
not showing up, so he's there just standing around. This
is the bizarre situation.
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Who's gonna get us too. Oh no, no, no, no,
game time. Oh okaylet's get to christ.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
All right, Chris Proffett, who has the unique ability because
he's from Detroit, to bring everything back to Detroit. Your
challenge is going to be to not mention Detroit.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Unfortunately, when it failed that in the first five seconds
because tonight's theme on game time. First off, what are
we playing, Sam?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I feel a draft?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
Well, tonight is the NFL Hall of Fame game with
the Los Angeles Chargers and the Detroit Lions. See either failed.
It just failed it right there. It is a matchup
of two very distinct like I feel like, without Dan here,
I've got to do something about jerseys, and we are
getting a great blue versus blue, a very pleasing blue
versus blue matchup between the Honolulu Blue of the Lions
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and what would you call the Chargers blue is like
a powder blue, a baby blue.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's blue.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah, the powder blue of the Charges. That got me thinking.
There's a lot of blue that is loved by sports
teams out there, all in different shades, some more official
than others. We've got tar Heel blue, We've got Duke blue,
We've got the navy of so many teams. So we're
gonna be drafting teams that wear blue. Your favorite blue,
your favorite blue. So Doug, I'll start with you. We've
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got sent everyone a non exhaustive list of all the
top teams that wear blue. But go right ahead. You've
got the first pick.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
If if God wasn't a Tar Hill fan, he wouldn't
have made the Sky Carolina blue. Okay, Carolina blue number
one pick.
Speaker 8 (34:34):
It has an if it is an official blue color
to Carolina blue, like as I have learned from my
brief time as a web designer. See them you're up next.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Well, you know me.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
They've always been calling me Big Apple Sam because of
my affinity and love for the Mets. I love orange
and blue.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
They really pop.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Chris and I were talking about the Florida Gators similar,
So I will go with the Mets.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
The Mets.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's royal, right, the blue with the orange.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, and uh you know me, uh big big Apple say,
big Mets fan.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
You know well those are like the colors on the
New York City flag is like blue, orange and white.
Like That's why a lot of teams end up the Isles.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, the Islanders, the Islander's the Rangers the same blue
of course, Nicks. Yeah. Who's who's next?
Speaker 8 (35:22):
All right, Oh, it's me next? And I'm going to
Oh boy, well, you know what.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Why why do they use Honolulu blue?
Speaker 8 (35:32):
That is a fantastic question. Apparently the story just goes
down to with just a shade of blue that reminded
uh the owner of the of the ocean water out
in Hawaii. And that was the only reason it's called
Honolulu blue. There's no other connection to Hawaii. I like
it as someone who likes tiki drinks. So yeah, give
me the Lions for my pick. Jason, you got the
(35:53):
back to.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Back, Thank you, Chris. I'll take it from here. I'll
tell you what. You guys allowed me to draft my
two favorite teams and the representative sports and four and
five I'm gonna go Dodger blue. Dodger blue. What is
the name of the Dodger Blue. It's just Dodger Blue. No,
it's called Pantone. There's a there's an entire fan group,
(36:15):
Pantone fourteen or something.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Get to the second one.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
The second one, yeah, uh. And then the Chargers powder
blue is beautiful. Thank you.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Now I've got a tough one because I am a
football fan, and I could take Michigan here because I
think if you're gonna call yourself go blue, I mean,
you've got Kentucky that's also big blue. But I'm gonna
swerve a bit. I really miss them still. I love
the Houston Oilers Blue, the old lovey. I had some
friends down in Houston talk about the love you Blue
to day.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Absolutely, all right, Yeah, Sam, you're Sam.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You know man, I've been looking at the Chris made
a nice list of all these different actions. I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna do another blue and orange. Boise State, let's go,
they got the whole field car Let's go.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
You missed another blue. Okay, the Lakers, you blew it.
The Lakers are forum blue and gold. I know the
rest of the world thinks they're purple. But that was
Jack Cank Cook named it. Chick Hern coined it Forum
Blue on the Lake Radio Network and as is bonus
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if we went to third round, my boy Blue, you're
my boy Blue? Yeare my boy Blue?
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Could do so many rounds of this again. Michigan is
still on the board, Kentucky's on the board, Duke Notre Dame,
Navy Team USA. But that is game time.
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This is game time on the God I got the joke.
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Fox Sports Radio. Beautiful day here in Wisconsin, I'm sure
beautiful day in southern California generally always is yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, uh yeah, come on, Doug Yeah.
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We've got a great show for you planned including who's
a better dad, Scottie Scheffler or Tom Brady. Uh Jay
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well I might not have it because I'm trying to
do something with my body or I'm model which what
I what he eat, or there's not one in my
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you know, I don't like it. Look dry Queen now,
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Yes, emmy, sorry, we are just starting the show. But
I was curious, what are your favorite what's your favorite
Blizzard combo?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I mean, I'm an oreo cookie guy, like put Puru
in there. But I again, they didn't ask me. They
asked my favorite blizzard. What they didn't ask me is
what I like to order from DQ. Dip cone? Oh yeah,
vanilla dip it in the chocolate. Oh man, so good,
so good. And by the way, again, per Hay has
got leave my son who knows about chicken strips and
chicken sandwiches from every spot. He's DQ, he says, underrated.
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I was like, I don't know where they rank in
the rankings. It's like, no, no, no, that the chicken strips
or chicken fingers, whatever they call it, they're all the same.
They're fantastic at DQ. So there you go. There's your
there's your q D, and everybody else is not like yeah,
I kind of do like DQ. I may not have it,
but I like it. No one dislikes it. Okay, I'll
give you somebody that people do are. It's polarizing, like
(03:13):
and dislike is Lebron James. So there was this picture
of Lebron Maverick Carter, his agent, and Nikolae Jokicic's agent
on a boat and there's lots of like, what are
they talking about? Is Lebron going to Denver? Is Yokich
coming to La what's going on then I don't know
it was yesterday or earlier today, it was yesterday. It
(03:34):
came out that the conversation was in regards to Maverick
Carter starting a league, some international league where you have
men's teams and women's teams and it'll be like Live
Golf only for the NBA. Like wow, that's genius, right.
Everybody takes an idea, and I like, I don't know
(03:58):
if Kudoba came for or if Chipotle came first, but
somebody stole somebody else's fast casual idea, right, And then
you look at all the fast cash places. Then you
guys have had kava, like kava came in, Like I
will do the Greek form of it. There is an
Indian food form of it. But as I told you,
no disrespect to my Indian brothers and sisters, but I
(04:21):
just I don't do Indian food. It's like the only
thing I don't do. I don't. I just don't. It's
just not my jam. But the bigger point is, like
you know, I obviously Live has made a lot of
people a lot of money. It has broken through. They
have partnered with the PGA. No one knows, you know,
(04:42):
what's going to happen to in the future. But a
lot of guys have gotten rich off it, and it's
it's interesting, and they try and do the kind of
rock and roll NBA introductions and try and spice it
up whatever. And golf, which can be seen as lame,
is trying to be made cool by live golf. Whatever
level of whether it's working or not working, it's still surviving.
You guys are still getting paid and so it's lasted
(05:04):
this long, so it has worked. But but I have
a hypothesis that I'd like to share with you, and
you tell me if it makes sense. Okay. Chris Prefett,
by the way, is filming it for Dan Byer's here. Hey,
welcome and Chris, of course you got Iowa, Sam and
m Aman j Stew. Okay. So I think most people
(05:26):
who watch and cover the NBA are familiar and some
people are not that Lebron James has made it very
very clear he nearly wants to own an NBA team.
He wants to own a Vegas expansion team. Vegas expansion team.
And many of you are driving along, you're sitting your cubicle,
(05:46):
or you listen to the DG Show. Maybe you're listen
to us on the app and you're like, yeah, I
remember something about that. Okay. So I think, first of all,
this this meeting very easily could have happened in secret
and no one knows about it. Why would somebody take
a picture and then put it out on social media?
Because they want you to know it's happening, right, that's inarguable.
(06:10):
I don't have to talk to somebody in Lebron's camp
or Yokich's camp to know that the reason it was
out on social media is they want you to know
what's happening. Why would they want you to know what's happening. Well,
there's only two possible reasons. One Lebron was told he's
not getting a team, which is altogether possible, maybe even likely,
(06:32):
because as deep as Lebron's pockets are, they're not that deep.
They're not that deep. The Lebron being worth a billion
dollars it sounds good, it's very likely to not be
real because I'm sure a lot of it is tied
up in Nike stock and in other stocks. Not that
that doesn't count in your terms of your evaluation, but
(06:55):
I think a lot of it is based upon his
personal brand, his personal value, not how much actual cash
he has or how much how many actual assets he
has and whether not those assets equal out to a
billion dollars ember NBA teams. We just watched the Lakers
go for ten billion dollars billion, So I know NBA players,
(07:21):
and Lebron seems to be the richest of them, but
that pales in comparison to the guys that are in
the in the financial financial markets. So there's one of
only two possibles that I've come up with. Either one,
he was told he's not getting a team and this
is his way of going. Or two, he wants to
(07:45):
leverage his way to getting a team, and the only
way to get leverage is if you don't get me
this team, I'm going to go out and form this
other league that's gonna be in competition with you with
the hopes of ultimately getting a team. That way. That's
the only two possible solutions I can think of, or
(08:08):
reasons I can think of why Lebron would nullly have
this meeting. Having the meeting, you could take a meeting
with anybody, but why do you want to take a
picture of it? Why do you want people to know
what it was about why do you want to know
why do you want to include Nikolay Jokic's agent in it.
It's pretty obvious right that this is I'm sure they're
(08:30):
going to sell it as this is our next step.
This is what we do after we retire, is we
own NBA teams. We force expansion into Europe by putting
together teams in Europe, and then ultimately they joined the NBA.
Or maybe it's because we make them pay us, we
(08:50):
make them give us a seat at the table, or
maybe it's an fu The issue with any league outside
of the NBA in comparison to the golf is golfers,
outside of their sponsorship money, if they don't play well
on Thursday and Friday, they don't get paid, they don't
get to hang around for Saturday and Sunday, whereas NBA
(09:11):
players they're plenty well compensated. And oh yeah, by the way,
that money is based upon TV deals, and a new
league wouldn't have enough teams, nor would have the star
power to have those big TV deals. And if the
sale was, hey, we're gonna launch with Lebron James, the
problem is that by the time Lebron James's contract expires,
(09:31):
say they start a new league and he is the
centerpiece of it. He'll be forty one years old and
it'll be playing against rummies, and it will diminish all
the things he did in the NBA. It just will.
That's the reality to it. Okay, it'll diminish what he's
done in the NBA. And the last part and maybe
(09:53):
the most important part to it that this is my takeaway,
and it may not sit well with you, but I
know it to be reality, which is Lebron has never
cared about Laker fans or being a Laker. He clearly
doesn't care about being a Miami Heat and very likely
doesn't care about being a Cleveland Cavalier and what all
(10:13):
that represents because he left there twice, and conducting such
a meeting and allowing your agent with a firm that
you started to tweet out that picture showing that you're
trying to do harm to the league that has helped
make you into a billionaire, only shows that Lebron James
cares only about the relationships of people he knew in
(10:36):
high school. And that's it. That's it. He cared about
JJ Reddick and their relationship. He never would allow his
agent to go public and say they're basically they're not
a championship team. If he cared about the Lakers, he
wouldn't do so many of the things he's done while
being a member of the Lakers. Who discussed this, is
(10:58):
he cared about being a member of the Miami Heat,
he would have just left. Why they played in four
NBA finals, it won two of them. He shown no value,
nor has he ever claimed that as partner. You know,
this is who Lebron is. It definitely tracks he's somebody
who doesn't actually care about anybody outside of his inner circle.
(11:21):
And again that's okay with the exception of the fact
that he desperately want to be loved by everybody and
cared for by everybody. But those are really transactional relationships.
So the big takeaways from Lebron meeting with Jokic's agent
is I think it's a leverage play or an fu
(11:41):
play because he was either told he's not going to
get a team, or he wants to try and force
himself to getting a team, and the only way he
can do it is to force his way by helping
create this new league. The miscalculation is that league has
zero value unless it has stars, and the best star
would be Lebron James, who, don't get me wrong, people
(12:04):
would come out and watch in you know, if he's
start trying to start a league, people would watch, but
they're not going to pay attention to a league. And
then at some point when your best and most known
player retires, then what you have nothing. It feels like
it's simply a leverage play in order to get the
NBA to give him that team in Vegas, which they
may or may not have during the next cycle.
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on top of your screen. You guys heard what Scotty
Scheffler said. Was that two weeks ago?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Here's Scotty Scheffler a couple weeks ago talking about this
is before the Open Championship, by the way, talking about
where flight bounds.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
That's why I talk about families being my priority, because
it really is. You know, I'm blessed to be able
to come out here and play golf. But if my
golf ever started affecting my home life or whatever affected
the relationship I have with my wife or with my son,
you know, that's gonna be the last day that I
play out here for a living.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know, this is not the be all end all.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
This is not the most important thing in my life.
And that's why I wrestle with why is this so
important to me? Because you know, I would much rather
be a great father than I would be a great golfer.
You know that at the end of the day, that
that's what's more important to me.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, So what makes a great father? Can you Can
you be both? Can you be both? Here's Tom Brady
on Scotty Scheffler. Oh, I'm sorry, Tom Brady talking about
Scotty Scheffler. I thought this was super super interesting right
where he he just had a different perspective on it
(14:09):
and one that'll just be honest, I kind of share,
he said. Scotty said he'd rather be a better father
and husband than a good golfer. My question is why
are those mutually exclusive? Now? Again, if I was to
go through it, I don't think they were. But he
said if there was ever a chance that they were,
that's when he would shut it down. But regardless, sure
they're different blocks on the pyramid, but they're part of
(14:30):
the same pyramid. They're connected. For instance, I think being
part of a part of being a great father is
an example of doing what it takes to take care
of your family. I choose to do it by playing football.
My dedication to the sport, the hours of practice, the
moments when I was laser focused. Those were times when
I believe I was doing the best possible thing for
my family and my kids by prioritizing my profession and
(14:52):
teaching by example what it takes to be really good
at true chob But it takes a follow through with
commitments what it takes to be a great teammate and
showing them also by example that work is a big
part of all of our lives. I'll just give the
floor to you, Jay Stuke, because you have a very
pointed criticism of Brady in this correct.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yeah, it just doesn't it doesn't pass the smell test
to me. I think this is an easy thing to
say after I think it's the kind of a way
of justifying all the time spent away from your kids
that I was setting an example for them. This is
what I know about Tom Brady. And again, nobody knows anything.
Nobody was in their house other than the family. But
(15:35):
this is what I know. In the wake of the roast,
what did we hear?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
We heard the.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Ex complaining that he put his kids in that situation
with the roast, and we've heard Tom himself say I
regret doing the roast because of what was said about
my family. So it's just really strange to see him
obviously internalize what Scotty Scheffer said, like Tom took that
(16:03):
personally and this is his way of justifying it that
I spent all that time away for my kids to
be a great example, and that's part of being a
great father. I I just don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
You don't think that's part of being a great father.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
No, I don't believe that was a part of Brady's
motivation to be great. I think Brady is built differently
than Scheffler. Scheffler is unfulfilled by kicking people's ass. That
was something that was very fulfilling for Brady. They're just
built differently. But I think Brady kind of took it
personally what Scotty said.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh, I listen again when you when you've gone through
a divorce, and I have, so I can speak on
this one right, especially when you are you know, look,
I'm not Tom Brady. But similarly, in terms of there's
there's times in which you're away from home that most
ads are not away from home. Now there's times which
you're home where most dads are not home either, but
no one chooses to recognize that. But I think you're
(17:07):
talking about and when we were talking about it off air,
you were talking about resentment and his kids probably resent
you know, those last couple of years of playing football
when he could have been with them. And my thought is, okay,
with twofold one, you'll end up resenting your kids if
you turn down a great work opportunity for your kids.
And secondly, I just disagree with your whole premise of it.
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I think that's part of being a great dad. Yes,
you do, you know, And if I look back, there
should have been times in which I prioritize stuff. My
thing was I tried to get home as quickly as
possible when I was done. I would take the last
flight out in the first fight back. That's what I
would do. But no, I never said no to work
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opportunities because I thought, I thought, I do. I agree,
that's a good chance to show your kids, Hey, my
dad he grinds everything we have is because he's gonna work. Now,
do you have to at some point in off seasons
and smart times say hey, I need to diut back,
I need to put my phone away, I need to
be a human being. Sure. Sure, maybe it's because I'm
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much more aligned with the Brady perspective than the Scottie
Scheffler perspective. But I think it's completely unfair to think
that's not being a good father. Right. Every kid is different,
every relationship is different, every job is different. And oh yeah,
by the way, like the thing about Tom Brady is
he it wasn't like he can go like, hey, my
kids are a little older now I'm gonna take this
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fall off and not play football. You go and play
football for a certain amount of time. His window was
wider or bigger than it allowed him to play longer
than most. But now he'll never play football ever again. Ever. Ever,
So I would I would defend Brady from the I'm
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in agreement. I think think you can be both. What
it takes in order to make it work is you
have to take You have to have a spouse that
is that is committed to that exact same lifestyle to championing. Hey,
when your dad goes out to work, it's because this
is what he loves to do. And whatever you love
to do, we want you to go all in on it.
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Maybe I'm sharing too much Jays too, but like, this
is the exact conversation I have with my ex wife
last year when I took this job. How can you
take a job in Wisconsin? Now I know I've I've
lived a year away from my son. It's the hardest
part of anything I've ever done in my life. My
day start my son, the sun rises and SATs based
upon him. My girls are in college and they're they're
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they're away from me as well. But again, that's part
of the kind of natural cycle of life. Do I
wish I was closer? Yeah? But how much would I
resent my son or our relationship if I had not
taken this job and never gotten a coaching opportunity. I
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don't know. I don't know what you know. Again, this
is a it's a difference on perspective, whereas I think
it should be a championed. Hey, you always dreamed of
something in life. You got that opportunity. It wasn't perfect.
There is no perfect there just Isn't you do the
best you can Otherwise you end up presenting things that
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held you back on a wast middle cooff in a second.
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Speaker 1 (20:37):
Stuck Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, Jase,
do you mind if I bring up our morbid topic
as we await John middlcofugh our morbid topic which I
put on the chat. But that's because I didn't honestly
know that our schedule day was Did you see this
woman was killed hiking hiking in was that it was.
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I don't know where Tulum Grove is. Anyway, she was
admiring these giant sequoias. They heard a large, large crack
and a sequoia tree fell on her. Hey, the lesson here,
Jay Stu is, don't go hiking. I know you go hiking,
like every day, you and your hot girlfriend, you go,
you go hiking every day.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I'll pass that along to my super hot girlfriend. Will
see what she says.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
There you go. Uh that is that a great way
to go or a bad way to go? Because you know,
you do get that hikers high. You're up in the sequoias,
you're checking it out, You're like ah, and then all
of a sudden boom. I don't know. It's a tough one.
John Middlecoff joints YS three and Ounce of the podcast.
Uh middle cough. I'm sure you heard Scheffler obviously have
(21:47):
the Going Low podcast talk about work life balance. Did
you hear what Tom Brady said kind of as a
retort to.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
That, Yeah, that they're all intertwined.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I think every human is different. I think there is
no disputing in any competitive field that takes a lot
of time. Obviously, pro sports any industry, right, you know,
be good at media, to be a good coach, you
name it. How could they not be intertwined, right, I mean,
part of the reason you're spending so much time to
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try to be good at your craft is to help
provide for your family. I think the difference and this
is where Scottie because of Live and all the money
that came into golf. I mean, in like two years
he made a hundred million dollars, but took it took
Tom a long time to make like the fame as
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Tom Brady, the guy that we see now. I think
if you look back in like the two thousands, like he,
obviously you're gaining trying to gain respect, to win another
Super Bowl, but also to like create like this highly
paid operation. It was not like that early in most
of these guys careers. No difference in Jordan. I heard
someone say that the other day that you know, Beck,
(23:03):
when we were kids, right in basketball, these guys a
little like Tyger Woods. The circuit of your corporate sponsors.
It was a really big deal because obviously you were
making good money playing basketball in the eighty to whatever,
Michael Jordan, you were making way more money if you
could sling sneakers and Gatorade and those ads with McDonald's
(23:24):
or whatever. And now it's like, you're paying Devin Booker
seventy five million dollars a year and a team wins
thirty games, who even doesn't have to do anything else.
So I think there's this And I'm not comparing Scotti
shefferd to Devin Booker, but my point is, I do
think the money has just gotten so outraged. I mean,
how many Fortune five hundred CEOs. Smith's making fifty million
(23:48):
dollars a year. So I think that's really kind of
thrown everything out of balance a little bit in terms
of the way people look at stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of John Middlcoff. All right, let's get to some
football stuff. I was at Packer camp. Was that two
days ago? Oh yeah, and they're starting to talk, Hey,
super Bowl, super Bowl. My issue is what they do
(24:20):
to address the pass rush. And like, I'm willing to
believe Jordan Love can keep getting better. I love the
matt Matthew Golden Pick. Everybody says he's been as good
or better than advertised. Great, but you're not wait unless
your pet pressure of the passer. Can they.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
That's a good question. I mean, obviously I think their
defense was good last year that they haven't had I mean,
you go back a long time, probably till since one
of the Klay Matthews, you know, a guy that would
be viewed as like a dominant dominant like you know,
way back in the day, Reggie White. But you know,
look at the teams now that have top guys. It's why, hey,
(24:58):
if Miles Garrett or Max Cross, We're going to potentially
get traded three or four months ago, you know, I
mean we the Packers would have been a team that
would have been all over those guys. Now, I think
that their defense and their team is really more of
a group and a unit and a well coached operation
than like some star studded group, right. I mean, they
(25:18):
have a couple of really good players. You know, Jacob's
a really high end player. You know, Kenny Clark has
had a really good career. But I don't view them
as like four or five like what the Niners have
been the last couple of years. What the Eagles are now.
They're more of like a group and you know, depending
on their coaching. That's why they hired what's his name
from Boston College who was, you know, coach in the
(25:41):
NFL for a while. Halfway and obviously their head coaches
the play caller. But I think the big question mark
with them did you read that article maybe like within
the last month on the athletics on ed policy. Obviously
he gets hired, you know, you know, filling in for
Murphy and with their operations unlike all these other team
because they don't have an owner, that guy kind of
(26:02):
operates as the boss. Yeah, and these guys are going
into you know, not their contract year, but kind of
because they have two years left. So at the end
of this year, Lapour and gutikins, like you don't usually
do lame duck, right, that's very very rare in the NFL.
You know that there's some pressure on this operation to win. Now.
I think both those guys are good, like I, you know,
(26:24):
unless it was a disaster and some crazy things happen,
I wouldn't be in the business of getting rid of
those two guys. But in this article, like he had
some comments, you know, he didn't hire these guys. There's
an evaluation period. I don't think most people outside of
kind of the packers' bubble quite realizes because people just assume,
you know, stable organization. These guys aren't going anywhere. But
there's an underlying you know, it's almost like a new
(26:45):
owner came in and obviously this guy, you know when
I was a kid, Carmen Policy. I don't even know
what his equivalent would be now, but he was like
this unique consigliore for Eddie de Bartelow. But he was
like kind of the GM worked with Bill Walsh kind
of not. I mean, he's a football guy. So they
(27:06):
got there's an elefit in the room, in that organization
with those two guys, like pressure on them, Like is
winning ten games and just being one and done in
the playoffs good enough? You tell me you were there.
You gotta vibe? I mean, is that that's something people
are kind of talking about underlying a little bit.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Like yeah, hey, it's time to start winning games. You know,
home playoff game is big. Tell met a home playoff game.
And I just think, also, if you're honest about the division,
the Lions kind of boat raced them and took over
the division. Well, the Lions lose both coordinators and some players, right,
they might look different this year. The Vikings third quarterback
in three years and he's essentially a rookie. And then
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the Bears, you know, may or may not have figured
it out, but you don't think they're going to figure
it out in year one. No, So this is a
year where you have your quarterback back, you have most
of your team back, and you've added good pieces barring injuries. Yeah,
I think there are expectations. Is this year that at
least home playoff game, and they're talking about Super Bowl,
which is something that you just don't hear.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I think I'm gonna I mean, I'm gonna pick them
probably to win the division, might even throw a little
cash on it. They went one and five in the
division last year, Yeah, and won eleven games. So if
you just think you're pretty comfortable playing your opponents, if
you're a good team, at minimum, you shoul go three
and three. So if you just go, well, if they
went three and three, intoir quarterbacks a little healthier, why
(28:30):
couldn't they win thirteen fourteen games this year? I think
that's now Again, like you said, you know, pass rush,
just the overall roster, I mean you're there. They got
some good offensive Linemen. But do you go, God, they
got There's DeVante Adams, there's Klay Matthews, there's Aaron Rodgers
and doesn't quite feel like that anymore, right, No, it
(28:50):
does not.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
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John Middlecoff's our guest Storing Out is the podcast What
ultimately happens with Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I mean, I would imagine he just signs here three weeks,
like a week before the season, but you know, like
always with these guys. And I saw Stephen, who's in
a weird position, right, I mean, he's in the position
because of his father. I can imagine he probably looks
at some things differently than his dad. But he had
a comment the other day that, you know, we don't
drag our feet on these negotiations. It takes two to
(29:24):
tango essentially. Well yeah, I mean it takes two to
tango and all these deals that always gets signed way
before the end of training camp all around the league.
You guys just kind of operate differently. So if that
you're fighting over the last million dollars, that causes you
to lose weeks upon weeks and I think even Dak
said it a couple of days ago or maybe a
(29:45):
week ago. They're like, yeah, everything's going to work itself out.
We see this song and dance every single year with somebody,
so it's like the players are used to it. I mean,
it's just kind of I don't know if it's my
theory's always been wherever his cash is, he doesn't like,
you know, not making that that money, that that interest
on the money till the last possible second. Maybe it's
(30:06):
simply is like he's still kind of ego driven to win,
thinking he wins these negotiations even though it always feels
like he lose them. But you know, at this point time,
it's like they're trading the guy. So I would imagine
in three weeks they give him, you know, Adam Schefter
tweets out, Michael Parson has just got a record breaking
deal for X number, X number of guaranteed dollars, and
(30:27):
you know that's you know, or I don't think that
happens with Cincinnati. You know, I think they're pretty dug
in on, like re ain't budget, they didn't budge with
the with the rookie, which the more and more I
don't know if he saw some of the interview, did
like one of their local podcasts did with the agent.
I mean that's I'll defend Mike Brown on that situation.
I mean that was more honest. But this Hendrick's thing,
(30:49):
I mean, obviously he wants a lot more money. He's
an older player, doesn't feel like they're going to budge
and like any veteran player, you can't. You can't wave
the fines like you can. Michael persons that he was
not showing up, so he's there just standing around. This
is the bizarre situation.
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Doug Gottlieb Show, when it comes to uniform in sports,
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Let me get you to my good friend Chris Preffett.
(32:54):
Who's gonna get us too. Oh no, no, no, no,
game time. Oh okaylet's get to christ.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
All right, Chris Proffett, who has the unique ability because
he's from Detroit, to bring everything back to Detroit. Your
challenge is going to be to not mention Detroit.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Unfortunately, when it failed that in the first five seconds
because tonight's theme on game time. First off, what are
we playing, Sam?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I feel a draft?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
Well, tonight is the NFL Hall of Fame game with
the Los Angeles Chargers and the Detroit Lions. See either failed.
It just failed it right there. It is a matchup
of two very distinct like I feel like, without Dan here,
I've got to do something about jerseys, and we are
getting a great blue versus blue, a very pleasing blue
versus blue matchup between the Honolulu Blue of the Lions
(33:54):
and what would you call the Chargers blue is like
a powder blue, a baby blue.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's blue.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah, the powder blue of the Charges. That got me thinking.
There's a lot of blue that is loved by sports
teams out there, all in different shades, some more official
than others. We've got tar Heel blue, We've got Duke blue,
We've got the navy of so many teams. So we're
gonna be drafting teams that wear blue. Your favorite blue,
your favorite blue. So Doug, I'll start with you. We've
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got sent everyone a non exhaustive list of all the
top teams that wear blue. But go right ahead. You've
got the first pick.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
If if God wasn't a Tar Hill fan, he wouldn't
have made the Sky Carolina blue. Okay, Carolina blue number
one pick.
Speaker 8 (34:34):
It has an if it is an official blue color
to Carolina blue, like as I have learned from my
brief time as a web designer. See them you're up next.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Well, you know me.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
They've always been calling me Big Apple Sam because of
my affinity and love for the Mets. I love orange
and blue.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
They really pop.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Chris and I were talking about the Florida Gators similar,
So I will go with the Mets.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
The Mets.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's royal, right, the blue with the orange.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, and uh you know me, uh big big Apple say,
big Mets fan.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
You know well those are like the colors on the
New York City flag is like blue, orange and white.
Like That's why a lot of teams end up the Isles.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, the Islanders, the Islander's the Rangers the same blue
of course, Nicks. Yeah. Who's who's next?
Speaker 8 (35:22):
All right, Oh, it's me next? And I'm going to
Oh boy, well, you know what.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Why why do they use Honolulu blue?
Speaker 8 (35:32):
That is a fantastic question. Apparently the story just goes
down to with just a shade of blue that reminded
uh the owner of the of the ocean water out
in Hawaii. And that was the only reason it's called
Honolulu blue. There's no other connection to Hawaii. I like
it as someone who likes tiki drinks. So yeah, give
me the Lions for my pick. Jason, you got the
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back to.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Back, Thank you, Chris. I'll take it from here. I'll
tell you what. You guys allowed me to draft my
two favorite teams and the representative sports and four and
five I'm gonna go Dodger blue. Dodger blue. What is
the name of the Dodger Blue. It's just Dodger Blue. No,
it's called Pantone. There's a there's an entire fan group,
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Pantone fourteen or something.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Get to the second one.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
The second one, yeah, uh. And then the Chargers powder
blue is beautiful. Thank you.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Now I've got a tough one because I am a
football fan, and I could take Michigan here because I
think if you're gonna call yourself go blue, I mean,
you've got Kentucky that's also big blue. But I'm gonna
swerve a bit. I really miss them still. I love
the Houston Oilers Blue, the old lovey. I had some
friends down in Houston talk about the love you Blue
to day.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Absolutely, all right, Yeah, Sam, you're Sam.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You know man, I've been looking at the Chris made
a nice list of all these different actions. I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna do another blue and orange. Boise State, let's go,
they got the whole field car Let's go.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
You missed another blue. Okay, the Lakers, you blew it.
The Lakers are forum blue and gold. I know the
rest of the world thinks they're purple. But that was
Jack Cank Cook named it. Chick Hern coined it Forum
Blue on the Lake Radio Network and as is bonus
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if we went to third round, my boy Blue, you're
my boy Blue? Yeare my boy Blue?
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Could do so many rounds of this again. Michigan is
still on the board, Kentucky's on the board, Duke Notre Dame,
Navy Team USA. But that is game time.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
This is game time on the God I got the joke.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Fox Sports Radio. Beautiful day here in Wisconsin, I'm sure
beautiful day in southern California generally always is yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, uh yeah, come on, Doug Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Does that song say I'm in need of a guy?
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So what are we gonna do? We're gonna look back. Hey,
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