June 24, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug reacts to comments made by Aaron Rodgers earlier in the day when he said he thinks this next season with the Steelers will be his last. Doug welcomes NBA Draft expert Adam Finkelstein onto the show to talk about Cooper Flagg and the rest of the headlines around the NBA Draft. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Rank 'Em".
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Fielstein's going to join us. He's a college basketball insider.
As we get ready for tomorrow night's NBA Draft, where
it's the Cooper Flag Draft. You also hear from Brian
Scalabringey SCU, who's from my era, of course, analyst with
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Nessen covering the Boston Celtics. We'll get his thoughts on
Cooper Flag as we get ready to watch him be
the number one overall pick in the draft and go
to the Dallas Mavericks. It could be my thoughts and
we here's Scou's thoughts, and then we'll discuss it with
Adam Finkelstein. So got a lot to get to. I
do want to start with the story of the day,
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which is also the story d jore Aaron Rodgers. Well,
he's not calling it a career officially, but unofficially, like, yes,
this is this is about it. Here's Rogers earlier today,
I'm with Pat McAfee talking about this being his last season.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. You know, that's
why we just did a one year deal. You know,
this was really about finishing with a lot of love
and peace for the career that I've had. I mean,
I've played twenty freaking years, you know, like it's been
a long, long run and I've enjoyed it. And what
better place to finish than in one of the cornerstone
franchises of the NFL with Mike Tomlin and a great
(02:16):
group of leadership and great guys in the city that
you know expects expects you to win.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Here's Rogers talking about what his future looks like in
regards to I don't know television. He he, he actually says,
you know you won't see him anymore, all right. We
have a little trouble with that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
One likes a six A siety, isn't it? It's a
six A siety. I lived in a public guy for
twenty years. I had public relationship. How did that work out?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I had I had people leaking my home information and
making up stories that we bought a house together. People
call him paparazzi. People you know, post in personal life
on the internet.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, I actually I understand that. You know, you do
want some privacy. There's no place where you sign up
to play football that they say they're going to follow
you around and take pictures of you when you're on
the beach and wonder why your new wife is not
on the beach. By the way, when you get married,
you don't have to spend ether. You just don't now.
(03:29):
Some waking moments together would be good, but we also
don't know who she is or if she's traveling. And
he's kind of done with it, and he's like, look,
I'm out. It's not hard to be out of the
public eye. There are plenty of people who have disappeared
from the public eye. I just, you know, I think
he's fascinating. I do. He's made a fan in Jason
(03:53):
Stewart because Jay Stu, as he said, he wants on
his tombstone searches for whatever the op of BS is.
And it does feel like Aaron Rodgers, whether he's right
or wrong in many of the things that he thinks
it's he's not trying to be full of it is
is at least the mo Now, I would I would
(04:16):
point out that that most of the vaccine thing and
how he handled it and got himself in a negative
place in the public eye was because he was lying.
But regardless of which, I've known Aaron a little bit
and I do actually think he's just not He's just
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never really enjoyed the attention of it, you know, it's
all the other things. And I actually think there's something
very relatable about that to me, Jason, in your years
with Jim Rome, right, there's a guy who's never really
been comfortable in the public eye either. And I wondered,
(04:59):
here's the e easiest way to relate it. Okay, it's
a very different. I hung out with Aaron Rodgers once
in the final four. It was when it was in Phoenix. Gosh,
when was that that was? Was it North Carolina beat Gonzaga?
I think in the championship game. We hung out after
the semi finals and he told me is twenty seventeen.
(05:23):
Yet he told me like before we went out, he
was like, hey, just so you know, every person that
comes up to me will put their hands on me,
will touch me. It was like, what do you mean,
Like just watch It's the weirdest thing. I don't know
what it's about. And so we'd go to a We
went to a restaurant first. Then we went and you know,
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the owner comes out to the restaurant and puts his
arm on Aaron's shoulder and he looks at me and like,
didn't say anything. Wasn't rude in any way. The waiter
comes out and you know, several other and they're being
really really nice, but every guy who comes by and
wants to meet him or introduce him puts their hand
because he's sitting on his shoulder. Then we go to
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a concert and we're backstage at a concert and same thing.
Guys that come up and some of them just like
smack them, some touch them. Then we go to a
club late at night and literally every person comes up
and puts their hands on it, and no one is
like it's if one person does it, it's a little different.
(06:29):
You know, some people are close talkers or whatever, but
every person who engaged in a conversation or wanted to
put their hands on him. And I've always told people that, Look,
I'm like one thousandth of the people know me who
would know Aaron Rodgers. But there is when I was
in college, and even now, you go into a place
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and everyone knows who you are, even if you're new
to that place. When you don't know who who anybody is,
and then when you factor in again, I don't know
if you'd call it issues or suspicions, or people who
have done him wrong or people who have fallen out
of his life, but when you're not a super trusting
(07:12):
person and you walk into it like Aaron Rodgers, every
room he walks into in the United States and in
some other places abroad, everyone knows who he is. Think
about that for a second. Everyone knows who he is,
you know, and the guy who doesn't know who he
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is is called like an idiot. Right they come back
and there's a bunch of waiters back there. It's like,
you see who there was? Like I got no idea
who that is? To Aaron Rodgers, like I don't watch
I don't watch soccer, like no, no, he's a football player,
like I don't know. That guy's called an idiot for
not knowing. So it's a very strange existence in life.
(07:54):
To be the you don't have to introduce yourself, and
with knowledge of who you are, many people carry with
them the baggage of thinking they know who you are,
they know what you're about, and they carry an opinion
of you. So when he calls it a career and
he disappears, I think that's why. I think he's trying
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to find a place where no one knows who he is.
Now to me, I it does. It can be a lot. Again,
at a fraction of his level of stardom, it can
be a lot, But it's kind of cool when people
know who you are. It's still at the kinds still
kind of cool. It can be a lot, you know,
especially when people say things or question things or whatever.
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But if you're not built for it or if you've
been scorning the relationships or if you have some trust issues,
it can lead you to just want to disappear. And
it does explain a lot for why it took aim
while to get to this point of playing for the
for the Steelers, why he does his darkness retreats, why
(09:02):
he does kind of odd, quirky things in comparison to
other NFL players that we think we know what they
do in the off season. And what's interesting about it
is through all the quirkiness and all the things that
people will say, many of them negative about him, when
he's gone, he'll be missed, his will And it's why
(09:24):
I'm fascinated by this season. They play the Green Bay Packers.
What is it October twenty sixth. Think about that Aaron
Rodgers playing for the Steelers against the Green Bay Packers
in Jordan Love like in Pittsburgh. I wish it was
in Green Bay. The only thing I think of wish
it was in Green Bay. But this is it's it's
(09:45):
honestly pretty cool. And there are this Jay stew you
and I got into the little discussion about people who
in politics, What's what's the guy on Instagram who wants
to lob negativity towards us or specially towards you.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Was it Sam John Boat Giants.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
John Boat johns on way too much oxygen? But John
Bowt Giants and and the point that Jay Stu makes
on the pod is that just because you agree or
disagree with one thing politically, should not align you with
that group all the time. You don't have to. That's
not the way it's supposed to work. You can have
(10:23):
varying opinion. As a matter of fact. That's actually the
beauty to the country.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I think that's what makes America great to be.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Honest, that's what makes America great again. Wait wait, wait,
Rebecca Lobo, I'm not sure she were allowed to say that. Anyway,
I'm gonna I'm gonna weave like like Donald Trump weaves. Okay,
I'm gonna bring it back to my point, but not
drop an F bomb like he did earlier today. Okay, uh,
I just I think that Aaron Rodgers playing one last
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season with the Pittsburgh Steelers and not asking for the
fanfare of a farewell tour. And oh yeah, by the way,
he's got a chance to probably save Mike Tomlin or
Mike Tomlin could be out too. I cannot think of
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a better scenario for the entertainment alone and the interest
that I have in watching the Pittsburgh Steelers. They were
utterly and completely boring the past five years, right, big
Ben aged, then big Ben retired or big Ben took
the tourist elbow up. Then he came back and played
(11:39):
and he was okay. And then they did Kenny Pickett.
And then last year they had, you know, two quarterbacks
that weren't particularly good. And now they have Aaron Rodgers
and now it's really interesting. And he's like, by my
last year, and why would you say, and people will,
I'm sure be critical of why don't you just say
it's your last year? Well, I don't know. If you
win a super Bowl and you really enjoy it, like
(12:01):
I could do it again, I don't know as of
now last year, but you know, I don't know. If
it's really fun and I really like it and I'm
really good, I'll do it again. He just defies conventional
wisdom on a daily basis. And it's not my team,
(12:22):
but he's a great player, and I'm all for watching it.
I'm an interested party, and I will borrow from my
good friend Colin Coward, who says, hey, you don't have
to be great, just be interesting. And Aaron Rodgers is interesting, yes, yes, uh,
Jason Stewart.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
No, along those lines. Actually, when you say that he
will be missed, I think we're gonna miss him more
than you're going to miss him, more than you think
you will. I'm gonna I'm going to show this contrast
to prove my point. Netflix announced their new season of
quarterback Kirk Cousins, Joe Burrow and Jared Off. I almost
(13:02):
literally fell asleep before I got to the end of golf.
Those guys could not be less interesting. I think that's
a Peyton Manning production, right, Omaha Productions. They do the
quarterback you're gonna be able to see on Netflix how
uninteresting unsophisticated quarterbacks are. They're very good at what they do,
and they have to be very smart at what they do,
(13:24):
but they're not very interesting people. And then you put
Aaron Rodgers doing three hours of Joe Rogan and you'll
have that contrast. We're never gonna see this again. Somebody
playing the most popular position in American sports, being as
opinionated as he is and literally not caring what you think.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, gives zero fs, not a single one. Yeah, I'm
all for it. You and I are relying on this
right and you'll hear. I'm sure there's people that he's
upset along the way. There's people that have fallen off,
and I don't know his level of talent right now.
I do think that if we're gonna go, we're gonna go.
(14:07):
Nerd Sports Talk. Last year, Aaron Rodgers' first five games
look washed. Later in the season he started to come
back and get his legs under him. Who knows, I
don't know if he could play anymore. Maybe he stinks.
I would say that as a quarterback, especially one when
it's your last year and you've suffered through some tough injuries.
(14:29):
You know, I think the biggest challenges. No one wants
to get hit, But does he play like somebody who
doesn't want to get hit. I think that'd be fair.
I think that'd be fair. But what I know not think.
What I know is that we'll be watching and it's interesting.
And Yeah, again, if he's peak Aaron Rodgers, he's also
(14:54):
arguably the best to ever do it when he's been right. Like,
there's some things Aaron Dgers has done a football field.
They're just insane, like the no look stuff that Pat
Mahomes does. And again I'm fully aware that on this
very same radio show me as the very same host
has said, we need to have a discussion that Pat
Mahomes might be the best to ever do it. And
(15:15):
there's also a discussion Aaron Rodgers has been the best
to ever do it for a while as well, So
you factor in that at least for a portion of
time he was the best. That portion of time is
not that long ago. He suffered through a groosome injury,
stuffered through breakups with teams, breakups with friends, breakups with girls.
(15:36):
He's told you this is my last go round. It's
with a very interesting team with a coach that everybody likes.
But it's not like they've been particularly good, although they
haven't been bad. And the excuse or the reason, whichever
side you want to come from, is we don't have
very good quarterback. I don't know he's a very good quarterback,
but he was once a great quarterback, and that once
(15:56):
was not that long ago. Uh. While we're searching for
the next face of the NBA or wondering, you know,
how to make the NBA's regular season more interesting, the
NFL is super interesting, and Aaron Rodgers is a big
reason why, big reason why.
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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Guys, remind me,
Huey lewis is it he can't hear? That's why I
can't perform live. Now, I forget what it is or
was it his voice? It's it's I think it's it's
vocal related.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I think it's just because he sucks like he's not
very good at singing. His music's not good.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh stop stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it
just because again, just because it's not your flavor.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Oh it happened again. Another another googling mishap. It's not vocal.
It is actually, yes, an inner Uh. It's called Minear's disease,
a disorder of the inner ear that causes hearing loss.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah. And by the way, Jason, I think you should
you know you have. You've had some hearing issues as well.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I had had no idea that was the case. I'm
going to reach out to Huey right now and apologize.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, no use that he sucks. But by the way,
by the way, you can't hear, how would you know
if he sucks.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Go ahead, damn byers.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I think then, and I'm looking as well. That happened
in twenty eighteen. Yeah, that this happened. But you know,
you could go to Ticketmaster and try to find Huey
Lewis in the news tickets, but I don't know what
they're gonna find. Maybe if you want to buy tickets
from twenty seventeen, go right ahead because they're available. Just
(17:51):
go in the past.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I thought I thought you were going to use one
of their songs.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Going to go back in time.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Yeah, oh, there you go.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That's good. Yeah, uh, that's that's that's what he did.
I got it. I got it. Adam Finkelstein joins the SEAWORKSHRAW,
CBS Sports HQ. He's director of scouting for twenty four
to seven Sports as well. He joined them Doug otlib
Show on Fox Sports Trader. Not sure how many people
know NBA drafts tomorrow night. For probably the past year
(18:18):
and a half, I've been telling people that this was
the Cooper Cooper uh Cooper Flag Draft, and now we're
on the eve of it. Adam, What's what's what's a
reasonable expectation of Cooper Flag?
Speaker 7 (18:36):
I think that he is an immediate impact player in
a in a very likely multi time All Star. I
think that is a U I think that's reasonable. But
I think there's been quite a lot of hyperbole around him,
not just recently as we approached the NBA Draft, but
even in the last couple of years. I think that
you know, I've seen like more talented than Wemby and
(18:58):
best since Lebron and I have a hard time with
some of that. But I do think he is an
immediate impact player who will be a multi time All
Star in this league.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, this is like the Lone radio show where you're
allowed to be reasonable and not be prone to hyperbole. Right,
we both really like him. I was a little surprised
he is a little smaller when he measured out than
I thought. And yes, I'll say that.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
You know what's funny is, I don't even think most
people paid attention to that, Like, what was he you know,
six seven and three quarters bare feet seven foot wingspan?
I don't know, pretty good, like six nine and shoes
not bad. What you thought he was bigger?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, I thought I thought he was six nine in
bigger six' ten with with shoes. On that's WHAT i thought.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Thought, yeah, yeah, NO i this was about WHAT i.
Thought BUT i had the advantage, of you, know in high,
school standing next to, him talking to him and doing
all that. Stuff SO i thought this was about about
WHERE i had had and we also had the benefit
of having measurements FROM usa basketball and stuff over the.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Years, yeah BUT i mean he's still. Young, again there
is a world where guys keep. GROWING i don't, know
he's only, Eight he's what eighteen years? Old so you,
know there are the there The lebron COMPARISONS i. Get,
actually let me play for you. Something, okay this Is Brian. Scalabrini,
OKAY i know you. Know scal scal course is an
analyst for The Celtics network and a FORMER nba player
(20:26):
in his own. Right he had this to say about
having worked Out Cooper flag and what he thinks.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Of Him Lebron. James he's just not AN f one.
Racer lebron is two sixty fast four for FORTY a
head above the. Rim Cooper flag is not a bad.
Athlete he's a good Ath he's a great. Athlete lebron's
a super. Athlete but they processed the. SAME i know it's,
unfair But i'll eventually be. Right people will, know like
three years from, now they'll be, like, oh, yeah scal said.
It if he has the same, longevity that's That's i'm
(20:57):
just giving a comparison of what he could, be but.
Not you can't look at fifty thousand points and championships
and any of that. Stuff there's some variable to. That
but They lebron has scored fifty thousand, points doesn't have
a go too. Shot i'm not sure he has a
go too. Shot it's just a basketball player that makes things.
Happen lebron's a freak of. Nature, Defensively he's a freak of. Nature,
Defensively lebron can run. Point he can run point six
(21:20):
eight point guards six eight point guards like he trends
like that more than a shooting guard or A Kawhi
leonard or anything like. That and it's just he doesn't
want to say, it but that's what it's going to.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Be where are you and his?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Analysis, well the scalt is The scout's got a personal
relationship with the. Family let's start. THERE i, Mean cooper's
twin brother played on Scals au. Team scal was known,
to you, know like be around and you, know somewhat
involved in the periphery and his. Recruitment SO i, don't, like,
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LISTEN i hope my friend say nice things about me, too.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
That that's LIKE i, Said i'm not at The Lebron
James wemby, deal and mostly BECAUSE i just don't think it's.
Fair to the kid's. Credit he doesn't seem to get
bothered by that kind of. Stuff, sure BUT I i
don't know that he's he's not as dynamic As lebron.
WAS i, Mean lebron was freakishly. DYNAMIC i mean that's
(22:26):
just it's just not. Fair IT'S i DON'T i don't
get the like's not.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
That's not that's not. Fair it's not, accurate, RIGHT i
understand if you, want you want to say That lebron
acted older than his, Age LIKE i remember two thousand
and three that was kind of like my BREAKTHROUGH nba
draft ON espn, radio and you, Know carmela walked In
Chris bosh walked. IN i had played Against, darko SO
i sat down with him. Some But lebron even, then
(22:50):
he just the expression in basketball is sneaker? Squawk is squeak? Different,
Right like he was just a different. Cat AND i
do think That cooper carries some of that with. Him
but but they're not close to the same. Player AND
i think when you throw out the, name it makes
it impossible to look at them the same.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Way it's just not fair to the kids at the
end of the, Day LIKE i just AND i THINK
i take that stuff very seriously with the amount of
time that we spend like projecting high school, kids and
you're required to DO nba comps and stuff like, that
BUT i, think you, KNOW i think you're going to
be very careful when you try to those waters.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Atam fickalte and join us is Director scotting for twenty
four to. Seven you can see him ON Cbs SPORTS.
Hq this Is Doug otlib, Show Fox Sports ready one
of the eve of THE Nba. DRAFT i think there's
a couple other interesting players for people who are unaware
of The Ace bailey. Story, okay let me Just, ADAM
i know you know, this BUT i don't know how
many in the rest of the world. Do two, Players
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Dylan harper And Ace bailey both went To, rutgers both
had good seasons as. Freshmen obviously it's hard to win with.
FRESHMEN i know, that And rutgers proved us as. Such
but you're not drafting based upon how they played or
how their team necessarily did in their freshman year At.
Rutgers but it's on. Projections Ay spailey one of the
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top five guys on. Projections what's gone on in the
pre draft that has so many chattering about.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Him, well it starts with his representation because his FORMER aau,
Coach Omar, cooper Who Shariff cooper's, dad is now his.
Agent Omar cooper previously Ran athletes Of, tomorrow which was
the grassroots program that That bailey played. For so basically
it's it's THE aau coach turned into agent story right.
(24:41):
Now unlike from What i'm told in THE, nfl in THE,
nba you don't often see top prospects dictate a multiple
of places they don't want to go. To but that's
what's happened. Here he, said, no we're not working out For.
Philly we're not working out For, Charlotte we're not working
out For, utah and supposely hasn't worked worked out for any.
(25:02):
Place but those are three through. Five, now what we
know is that he is reportedly comfortable with places Like,
washington With New, orleans and with like With, brooklyn who
drafts six through. Eight so the expectation or the assumption
is that he is, hoping he Meaning, cooper hoping that
one of those three teams will trade up to get
(25:24):
him and if not comfortable enough to allow him to
slip to one of those. Spots, NOW i think they're
they're you, know the big philosophy there is they Believe
Ace bailey is a top three player in this, draft
AS i do as, well and they want him to
be in a program where he has the runway to prove.
It they don't necessarily think that'll happen in places Like, Philadelphia,
(25:47):
utah Or. Charlotte SO i think that is the best
way to summarize what's gone on With Ace.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Bailey, okay who's the, sleeper who's the guy? Who and
it doesn't have to be that far, Down BUT i
think most people only Know cooper flag in this. DRAFT
i really. Do who's the guy that we should actually know.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
About, WELL i, mean the low hanging fruit here Is Dylan, harper,
right who Was bailey's high school. Teammate he's going to
be the second pick in the. Draft The spurs are
going to take. Him there was some speculation that they
might trade him because they traded For Dearn fox and
they Drafted Steph castle last, year and those three guys
the fit together isn't isn't natural because none of them
(26:34):
are great, shooters and so there's concerns about the floor.
Spacing HARPER i think After flag has the next best
chance to be An All. Star He's Ron harper's, son
first of, all so he's grown up in this. World
he knows what it. Takes but he's a with shoes
on just under a six foot six lead. Guard he's
got pretty good, length the strong, frame he's left, handed
(26:55):
really good playmaking, instincts a terrific kind of instinctual feel
for the. Game and it's going to come down to
just how good is the. Shooting when he was making
shots In, december there was actually a discussion about whether
he Or Cooper flag was the best freshman in college.
Basketball now he wasn't able to sustain. It injuries played
a part in, that but the, shooting and THEN i
(27:16):
think the durability, too because this is a guy who
has missed time this year with, injury was beat up
a little bit in high, school so that's something that
teams are worried. About but if he stays healthy and he,
shoots this is someone who's who's got a significant upside
and is as good of a lead guard prospect as
we've had from the college basketball ranks in a long.
Time so he's not really a, sleeper but outside Of,
(27:37):
cooper he's the name to.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Know last, Thing you've been doing this for a, Minute
Shay Gildas, alexander did you see this?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Coming, no, NO i don't. THINK i don't think anyone.
Did but the THING i would tell you is that
when you talk to THE nba people who their job
isn't to their job isn't to try and go viral
like their their job is to make educated. Best SO
sga was someone THAT i THINK i don't think anyone foresaw,
(28:09):
This but were there markers that could eventually HIT i
think people IN okaycu would tell you. Yes, now the
probability of this outcome was very, low but it wasn't.
Impossible SO i think that's the thing is that you,
know in the draft, world we talk like things are foregone,
conclusions but when you talk to the people inside THE,
nba they talk about likelihood and probabilities and variables that
(28:32):
could impact the trajectory of years down the. Road and
so just the type of discourse is very very. Different
short answer to your question is, NO i. Didn't i'm
not sure anybody, did but there were there were enough
things to create some long term.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Optimism, adam you're the best. MAN i. Know it's a
busy time to ball is a busy. DAY i look
forward to watching your work AND i really appreciate you joining.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Us all, Right Thanks, doug That's Adam.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
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Speaker 6 (29:14):
Podcasts maybe we could Rank Aaron rodgers' top three moments
of his career coming up in game, Time.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Doug only if we do with love and fun and.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Peace, okay there you. Go the three characteristics Of Aaron rodgers.
Retirement rank those.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
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too and funmce love.
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criticize you when you when you don't do. Good that's
what you. Did a good, Thing.
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going just just just keep.
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(31:05):
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Speaker 6 (31:15):
Show should be noted for the record That i'm also
luckily the one that broke, it so that was not
on purpose, inadvertently BUT i may have been the reason
for that. Fall all, right what did you? Do so
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pull the phone closer to where we, sat and WHEN
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i sogged and it didn't really. Give there wasn't a
lot of. SLACK i think it may have pulled another
chord and just ruined. Everything and that was On, Friday
so great. Job AS stained, said it's been a, while
BUT i was likely that. Fault the game today is rank.
THEM i do want to do this almost as a group. Project,
(32:02):
okay shun't have it on the. Script but top Three
Aaron rodgers moments of his, Career, okay.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Because can they? Do they have to be?
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Good, No and THAT'S. I i have a top three
in my, head BUT i JUST i don't know if
you guys will have the.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Same so my top my top three would be number
one will be winning The Super.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Bowl, YEP i agree with. That that was.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
MINE i think number two has to be the.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Vaxsteal, OKAY i did not have. THAT i had him
running out with the. Flag oh, okay, YEAH i.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
WOULDN'T i would not have that. One that. ONE i,
WOULD i.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Would it represents so much more now it's it just
represents a different thing.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
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USUALLY i do three two. One this is one two,
three and THEN i think the third one would BE
i kind of think that one of the Hail, mary
yes or or, HONESTLY i still own you with The.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
BEARS i thought discount double.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Check oh, yeah but that was The Super bowl, year wasn't. It.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
NO i think it was the whole, Belt, yeah you,
know the whole. Belt BUT i kind of put discount
double check with that a little, bit but it's.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yours it is, interesting like there is a there is
a little it's a little hypocrisy to, it, RIGHT a
guy who's like anti, corporation anti, everything and he has
this celebration he puts on the, belt and then it
became synonymous with an insurance, company right because.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
The little double.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
CHECKS i think him telling the bears fantasy owns. THEM
i definitely would agree that's the top. Three there was
a moment in, time and this interests me BECAUSE i
Watched The bachelor a. Lot his brother went On The.
Bachelor oh, yeah and broke the news that his family
(34:12):
no longer associates With aaron and It's aaron's. Choice that
was that was huge news in THE. Nfl and they
went To aaron and asked him at his locker room
And aaron's, LIKE i don't, KNOW i hope he wins the.
Show AND i just thought that was so funny Because
The bachelor it's about falling in. Love they are real
(34:33):
people trying to find their spouses fall in. Love and he's,
LIKE i hope he wins the. SHOW i thought that was.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Funny that was kind of done on A rogers impression as. Well,
yeah it sounds kind of talks like.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
This all, Right, michelle that's that's my voice for my.
Dog actually my. Dog everyone has.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
A good, time all, Right DOUG rg your top THREE
nba title contenders for next? Season oh, gosh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Too title contenders for next?
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Season, Hmmm, Thunder, Rockets, Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
CELTICS i Mean, mavericks, RIGHT i Think mavericks would be
pretty good. Too, YEAH i Think spurs be pretty. GOOD
i will.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
GO i Said liqueurs Like lakers Because.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Laker. Girls i'm gonna Go, Rockets thunder and The New York.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Knicks, okay, WOW i like.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
IT i don't think they stand. PAD i think they
make some moves in The New York.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Knicks all, Right Iowa, sam you're gonna be on. Deck
there's one For Iowa. Sam. Here. Uh top three championship
apparel or memorabilia to? Buy so if you're A thunder,
fan what are you? Buying?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Shirts one is always the. HAT i just in terms
of cost per. Use you, know you can't wear A
t shirt every? DAY i mean you, can but, yeah
where's a hat you? CAN i mean remember that Hat
Brett favo war when he came out of retirement back
with The. Vikings you're, like that's that's a.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Hat it's, warned, Right, yeah The nike golf. Hat wash your?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Hat he looked like you mode in that. One you
don't wash your.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Hat every time you wear, it you, know you just wear.
It so you don't a, shirt you would wash it
after you wore. IT a, hat you can just wear
it and until it, stinks.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yes and and then you wear it even more SO
i do a hat. ONE i would do a sweatshirt,
too AND i would do A t. Shirt.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Three what about like a framed. Poster, yeah there's frame.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
POSTERS i was thinking about. That or you, know a
flag for your car like, media.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
It's Your Lario bryan. Trophy, sure right next to. Me
that Was Sam's christmas gift THAT i got him this.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Year he got me some AWESOME iowa rivalry. Trophies there are, ornaments,
yes the, minis but they can also be used just as. Decor,
Yes oh we're gonna miss. Out we are out of.
Time we're going to miss out On. Iowa sam's top
three weekends of his. Life, wow that's for another.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Day that's game, time.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
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SHOW i, mean we can do that top of THE.
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As we get ready for tomorrow night's NBA Draft, where
it's the Cooper Flag Draft. You also hear from Brian
Scalabringey SCU, who's from my era, of course, analyst with
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Nessen covering the Boston Celtics. We'll get his thoughts on
Cooper Flag as we get ready to watch him be
the number one overall pick in the draft and go
to the Dallas Mavericks. It could be my thoughts and
we here's Scou's thoughts, and then we'll discuss it with
Adam Finkelstein. So got a lot to get to. I
do want to start with the story of the day,
(01:34):
which is also the story d jore Aaron Rodgers. Well,
he's not calling it a career officially, but unofficially, like, yes,
this is this is about it. Here's Rogers earlier today,
I'm with Pat McAfee talking about this being his last season.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. You know, that's
why we just did a one year deal. You know,
this was really about finishing with a lot of love
and peace for the career that I've had. I mean,
I've played twenty freaking years, you know, like it's been
a long, long run and I've enjoyed it. And what
better place to finish than in one of the cornerstone
franchises of the NFL with Mike Tomlin and a great
(02:16):
group of leadership and great guys in the city that
you know expects expects you to win.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Here's Rogers talking about what his future looks like in
regards to I don't know television. He he, he actually says,
you know you won't see him anymore, all right. We
have a little trouble with that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
One likes a six A siety, isn't it? It's a
six A siety. I lived in a public guy for
twenty years. I had public relationship. How did that work out?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I had I had people leaking my home information and
making up stories that we bought a house together. People
call him paparazzi. People you know, post in personal life
on the internet.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, I actually I understand that. You know, you do
want some privacy. There's no place where you sign up
to play football that they say they're going to follow
you around and take pictures of you when you're on
the beach and wonder why your new wife is not
on the beach. By the way, when you get married,
you don't have to spend ether. You just don't now.
(03:29):
Some waking moments together would be good, but we also
don't know who she is or if she's traveling. And
he's kind of done with it, and he's like, look,
I'm out. It's not hard to be out of the
public eye. There are plenty of people who have disappeared
from the public eye. I just, you know, I think
he's fascinating. I do. He's made a fan in Jason
(03:53):
Stewart because Jay Stu, as he said, he wants on
his tombstone searches for whatever the op of BS is.
And it does feel like Aaron Rodgers, whether he's right
or wrong in many of the things that he thinks
it's he's not trying to be full of it is
is at least the mo Now, I would I would
(04:16):
point out that that most of the vaccine thing and
how he handled it and got himself in a negative
place in the public eye was because he was lying.
But regardless of which, I've known Aaron a little bit
and I do actually think he's just not He's just
(04:36):
never really enjoyed the attention of it, you know, it's
all the other things. And I actually think there's something
very relatable about that to me, Jason, in your years
with Jim Rome, right, there's a guy who's never really
been comfortable in the public eye either. And I wondered,
(04:59):
here's the e easiest way to relate it. Okay, it's
a very different. I hung out with Aaron Rodgers once
in the final four. It was when it was in Phoenix. Gosh,
when was that that was? Was it North Carolina beat Gonzaga?
I think in the championship game. We hung out after
the semi finals and he told me is twenty seventeen.
(05:23):
Yet he told me like before we went out, he
was like, hey, just so you know, every person that
comes up to me will put their hands on me,
will touch me. It was like, what do you mean,
Like just watch It's the weirdest thing. I don't know
what it's about. And so we'd go to a We
went to a restaurant first. Then we went and you know,
(05:47):
the owner comes out to the restaurant and puts his
arm on Aaron's shoulder and he looks at me and like,
didn't say anything. Wasn't rude in any way. The waiter
comes out and you know, several other and they're being
really really nice, but every guy who comes by and
wants to meet him or introduce him puts their hand
because he's sitting on his shoulder. Then we go to
(06:08):
a concert and we're backstage at a concert and same thing.
Guys that come up and some of them just like
smack them, some touch them. Then we go to a
club late at night and literally every person comes up
and puts their hands on it, and no one is
like it's if one person does it, it's a little different.
(06:29):
You know, some people are close talkers or whatever, but
every person who engaged in a conversation or wanted to
put their hands on him. And I've always told people that, Look,
I'm like one thousandth of the people know me who
would know Aaron Rodgers. But there is when I was
in college, and even now, you go into a place
(06:52):
and everyone knows who you are, even if you're new
to that place. When you don't know who who anybody is,
and then when you factor in again, I don't know
if you'd call it issues or suspicions, or people who
have done him wrong or people who have fallen out
of his life, but when you're not a super trusting
(07:12):
person and you walk into it like Aaron Rodgers, every
room he walks into in the United States and in
some other places abroad, everyone knows who he is. Think
about that for a second. Everyone knows who he is,
you know, and the guy who doesn't know who he
(07:32):
is is called like an idiot. Right they come back
and there's a bunch of waiters back there. It's like,
you see who there was? Like I got no idea
who that is? To Aaron Rodgers, like I don't watch
I don't watch soccer, like no, no, he's a football player,
like I don't know. That guy's called an idiot for
not knowing. So it's a very strange existence in life.
(07:54):
To be the you don't have to introduce yourself, and
with knowledge of who you are, many people carry with
them the baggage of thinking they know who you are,
they know what you're about, and they carry an opinion
of you. So when he calls it a career and
he disappears, I think that's why. I think he's trying
(08:17):
to find a place where no one knows who he is.
Now to me, I it does. It can be a lot. Again,
at a fraction of his level of stardom, it can
be a lot, But it's kind of cool when people
know who you are. It's still at the kinds still
kind of cool. It can be a lot, you know,
especially when people say things or question things or whatever.
(08:41):
But if you're not built for it or if you've
been scorning the relationships or if you have some trust issues,
it can lead you to just want to disappear. And
it does explain a lot for why it took aim
while to get to this point of playing for the
for the Steelers, why he does his darkness retreats, why
(09:02):
he does kind of odd, quirky things in comparison to
other NFL players that we think we know what they
do in the off season. And what's interesting about it
is through all the quirkiness and all the things that
people will say, many of them negative about him, when
he's gone, he'll be missed, his will And it's why
(09:24):
I'm fascinated by this season. They play the Green Bay Packers.
What is it October twenty sixth. Think about that Aaron
Rodgers playing for the Steelers against the Green Bay Packers
in Jordan Love like in Pittsburgh. I wish it was
in Green Bay. The only thing I think of wish
it was in Green Bay. But this is it's it's
(09:45):
honestly pretty cool. And there are this Jay stew you
and I got into the little discussion about people who
in politics, What's what's the guy on Instagram who wants
to lob negativity towards us or specially towards you.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Was it Sam John Boat Giants.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
John Boat johns on way too much oxygen? But John
Bowt Giants and and the point that Jay Stu makes
on the pod is that just because you agree or
disagree with one thing politically, should not align you with
that group all the time. You don't have to. That's
not the way it's supposed to work. You can have
(10:23):
varying opinion. As a matter of fact. That's actually the
beauty to the country.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I think that's what makes America great to be.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Honest, that's what makes America great again. Wait wait, wait,
Rebecca Lobo, I'm not sure she were allowed to say that. Anyway,
I'm gonna I'm gonna weave like like Donald Trump weaves. Okay,
I'm gonna bring it back to my point, but not
drop an F bomb like he did earlier today. Okay, uh,
I just I think that Aaron Rodgers playing one last
(10:56):
season with the Pittsburgh Steelers and not asking for the
fanfare of a farewell tour. And oh yeah, by the way,
he's got a chance to probably save Mike Tomlin or
Mike Tomlin could be out too. I cannot think of
(11:19):
a better scenario for the entertainment alone and the interest
that I have in watching the Pittsburgh Steelers. They were
utterly and completely boring the past five years, right, big
Ben aged, then big Ben retired or big Ben took
the tourist elbow up. Then he came back and played
(11:39):
and he was okay. And then they did Kenny Pickett.
And then last year they had, you know, two quarterbacks
that weren't particularly good. And now they have Aaron Rodgers
and now it's really interesting. And he's like, by my
last year, and why would you say, and people will,
I'm sure be critical of why don't you just say
it's your last year? Well, I don't know. If you
win a super Bowl and you really enjoy it, like
(12:01):
I could do it again, I don't know as of
now last year, but you know, I don't know. If
it's really fun and I really like it and I'm
really good, I'll do it again. He just defies conventional
wisdom on a daily basis. And it's not my team,
(12:22):
but he's a great player, and I'm all for watching it.
I'm an interested party, and I will borrow from my
good friend Colin Coward, who says, hey, you don't have
to be great, just be interesting. And Aaron Rodgers is interesting, yes, yes, uh,
Jason Stewart.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
No, along those lines. Actually, when you say that he
will be missed, I think we're gonna miss him more
than you're going to miss him, more than you think
you will. I'm gonna I'm going to show this contrast
to prove my point. Netflix announced their new season of
quarterback Kirk Cousins, Joe Burrow and Jared Off. I almost
(13:02):
literally fell asleep before I got to the end of golf.
Those guys could not be less interesting. I think that's
a Peyton Manning production, right, Omaha Productions. They do the
quarterback you're gonna be able to see on Netflix how
uninteresting unsophisticated quarterbacks are. They're very good at what they do,
and they have to be very smart at what they do,
(13:24):
but they're not very interesting people. And then you put
Aaron Rodgers doing three hours of Joe Rogan and you'll
have that contrast. We're never gonna see this again. Somebody
playing the most popular position in American sports, being as
opinionated as he is and literally not caring what you think.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, gives zero fs, not a single one. Yeah, I'm
all for it. You and I are relying on this
right and you'll hear. I'm sure there's people that he's
upset along the way. There's people that have fallen off,
and I don't know his level of talent right now.
I do think that if we're gonna go, we're gonna go.
(14:07):
Nerd Sports Talk. Last year, Aaron Rodgers' first five games
look washed. Later in the season he started to come
back and get his legs under him. Who knows, I
don't know if he could play anymore. Maybe he stinks.
I would say that as a quarterback, especially one when
it's your last year and you've suffered through some tough injuries.
(14:29):
You know, I think the biggest challenges. No one wants
to get hit, But does he play like somebody who
doesn't want to get hit. I think that'd be fair.
I think that'd be fair. But what I know not think.
What I know is that we'll be watching and it's interesting.
And Yeah, again, if he's peak Aaron Rodgers, he's also
(14:54):
arguably the best to ever do it when he's been right. Like,
there's some things Aaron Dgers has done a football field.
They're just insane, like the no look stuff that Pat
Mahomes does. And again I'm fully aware that on this
very same radio show me as the very same host
has said, we need to have a discussion that Pat
Mahomes might be the best to ever do it. And
(15:15):
there's also a discussion Aaron Rodgers has been the best
to ever do it for a while as well, So
you factor in that at least for a portion of
time he was the best. That portion of time is
not that long ago. He suffered through a groosome injury,
stuffered through breakups with teams, breakups with friends, breakups with girls.
(15:36):
He's told you this is my last go round. It's
with a very interesting team with a coach that everybody likes.
But it's not like they've been particularly good, although they
haven't been bad. And the excuse or the reason, whichever
side you want to come from, is we don't have
very good quarterback. I don't know he's a very good quarterback,
but he was once a great quarterback, and that once
(15:56):
was not that long ago. Uh. While we're searching for
the next face of the NBA or wondering, you know,
how to make the NBA's regular season more interesting, the
NFL is super interesting, and Aaron Rodgers is a big
reason why, big reason why.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
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Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Guys, remind me,
Huey lewis is it he can't hear? That's why I
can't perform live. Now, I forget what it is or
was it his voice? It's it's I think it's it's
vocal related.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I think it's just because he sucks like he's not
very good at singing. His music's not good.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh stop stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it
just because again, just because it's not your flavor.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Oh it happened again. Another another googling mishap. It's not vocal.
It is actually, yes, an inner Uh. It's called Minear's disease,
a disorder of the inner ear that causes hearing loss.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah. And by the way, Jason, I think you should
you know you have. You've had some hearing issues as well.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I had had no idea that was the case. I'm
going to reach out to Huey right now and apologize.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, no use that he sucks. But by the way,
by the way, you can't hear, how would you know
if he sucks.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Go ahead, damn byers.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I think then, and I'm looking as well. That happened
in twenty eighteen. Yeah, that this happened. But you know,
you could go to Ticketmaster and try to find Huey
Lewis in the news tickets, but I don't know what
they're gonna find. Maybe if you want to buy tickets
from twenty seventeen, go right ahead because they're available. Just
(17:51):
go in the past.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I thought I thought you were going to use one
of their songs.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Going to go back in time.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Yeah, oh, there you go.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That's good. Yeah, uh, that's that's that's what he did.
I got it. I got it. Adam Finkelstein joins the SEAWORKSHRAW,
CBS Sports HQ. He's director of scouting for twenty four
to seven Sports as well. He joined them Doug otlib
Show on Fox Sports Trader. Not sure how many people
know NBA drafts tomorrow night. For probably the past year
(18:18):
and a half, I've been telling people that this was
the Cooper Cooper uh Cooper Flag Draft, and now we're
on the eve of it. Adam, What's what's what's a
reasonable expectation of Cooper Flag?
Speaker 7 (18:36):
I think that he is an immediate impact player in
a in a very likely multi time All Star. I
think that is a U I think that's reasonable. But
I think there's been quite a lot of hyperbole around him,
not just recently as we approached the NBA Draft, but
even in the last couple of years. I think that
you know, I've seen like more talented than Wemby and
(18:58):
best since Lebron and I have a hard time with
some of that. But I do think he is an
immediate impact player who will be a multi time All
Star in this league.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, this is like the Lone radio show where you're
allowed to be reasonable and not be prone to hyperbole. Right,
we both really like him. I was a little surprised
he is a little smaller when he measured out than
I thought. And yes, I'll say that.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
You know what's funny is, I don't even think most
people paid attention to that, Like, what was he you know,
six seven and three quarters bare feet seven foot wingspan?
I don't know, pretty good, like six nine and shoes
not bad. What you thought he was bigger?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, I thought I thought he was six nine in
bigger six' ten with with shoes. On that's WHAT i thought.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Thought, yeah, yeah, NO i this was about WHAT i.
Thought BUT i had the advantage, of you, know in high,
school standing next to, him talking to him and doing
all that. Stuff SO i thought this was about about
WHERE i had had and we also had the benefit
of having measurements FROM usa basketball and stuff over the.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Years, yeah BUT i mean he's still. Young, again there
is a world where guys keep. GROWING i don't, know
he's only, Eight he's what eighteen years? Old so you,
know there are the there The lebron COMPARISONS i. Get,
actually let me play for you. Something, okay this Is Brian. Scalabrini,
OKAY i know you. Know scal scal course is an
analyst for The Celtics network and a FORMER nba player
(20:26):
in his own. Right he had this to say about
having worked Out Cooper flag and what he thinks.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Of Him Lebron. James he's just not AN f one.
Racer lebron is two sixty fast four for FORTY a
head above the. Rim Cooper flag is not a bad.
Athlete he's a good Ath he's a great. Athlete lebron's
a super. Athlete but they processed the. SAME i know it's,
unfair But i'll eventually be. Right people will, know like
three years from, now they'll be, like, oh, yeah scal said.
It if he has the same, longevity that's That's i'm
(20:57):
just giving a comparison of what he could, be but.
Not you can't look at fifty thousand points and championships
and any of that. Stuff there's some variable to. That
but They lebron has scored fifty thousand, points doesn't have
a go too. Shot i'm not sure he has a
go too. Shot it's just a basketball player that makes things.
Happen lebron's a freak of. Nature, Defensively he's a freak of. Nature,
Defensively lebron can run. Point he can run point six
(21:20):
eight point guards six eight point guards like he trends
like that more than a shooting guard or A Kawhi
leonard or anything like. That and it's just he doesn't
want to say, it but that's what it's going to.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Be where are you and his?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Analysis, well the scalt is The scout's got a personal
relationship with the. Family let's start. THERE i, Mean cooper's
twin brother played on Scals au. Team scal was known,
to you, know like be around and you, know somewhat
involved in the periphery and his. Recruitment SO i, don't, like,
(21:59):
LISTEN i hope my friend say nice things about me, too.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
That that's LIKE i, Said i'm not at The Lebron
James wemby, deal and mostly BECAUSE i just don't think it's.
Fair to the kid's. Credit he doesn't seem to get
bothered by that kind of. Stuff, sure BUT I i
don't know that he's he's not as dynamic As lebron.
WAS i, Mean lebron was freakishly. DYNAMIC i mean that's
(22:26):
just it's just not. Fair IT'S i DON'T i don't
get the like's not.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
That's not that's not. Fair it's not, accurate, RIGHT i
understand if you, want you want to say That lebron
acted older than his, Age LIKE i remember two thousand
and three that was kind of like my BREAKTHROUGH nba
draft ON espn, radio and you, Know carmela walked In
Chris bosh walked. IN i had played Against, darko SO
i sat down with him. Some But lebron even, then
(22:50):
he just the expression in basketball is sneaker? Squawk is squeak? Different,
Right like he was just a different. Cat AND i
do think That cooper carries some of that with. Him
but but they're not close to the same. Player AND
i think when you throw out the, name it makes
it impossible to look at them the same.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Way it's just not fair to the kids at the
end of the, Day LIKE i just AND i THINK
i take that stuff very seriously with the amount of
time that we spend like projecting high school, kids and
you're required to DO nba comps and stuff like, that
BUT i, think you, KNOW i think you're going to
be very careful when you try to those waters.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Atam fickalte and join us is Director scotting for twenty
four to. Seven you can see him ON Cbs SPORTS.
Hq this Is Doug otlib, Show Fox Sports ready one
of the eve of THE Nba. DRAFT i think there's
a couple other interesting players for people who are unaware
of The Ace bailey. Story, okay let me Just, ADAM
i know you know, this BUT i don't know how
many in the rest of the world. Do two, Players
(23:48):
Dylan harper And Ace bailey both went To, rutgers both
had good seasons as. Freshmen obviously it's hard to win with.
FRESHMEN i know, that And rutgers proved us as. Such
but you're not drafting based upon how they played or
how their team necessarily did in their freshman year At.
Rutgers but it's on. Projections Ay spailey one of the
(24:09):
top five guys on. Projections what's gone on in the
pre draft that has so many chattering about.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Him, well it starts with his representation because his FORMER aau,
Coach Omar, cooper Who Shariff cooper's, dad is now his.
Agent Omar cooper previously Ran athletes Of, tomorrow which was
the grassroots program that That bailey played. For so basically
it's it's THE aau coach turned into agent story right.
(24:41):
Now unlike from What i'm told in THE, nfl in THE,
nba you don't often see top prospects dictate a multiple
of places they don't want to go. To but that's
what's happened. Here he, said, no we're not working out For.
Philly we're not working out For, Charlotte we're not working
out For, utah and supposely hasn't worked worked out for any.
(25:02):
Place but those are three through. Five, now what we
know is that he is reportedly comfortable with places Like,
washington With New, orleans and with like With, brooklyn who
drafts six through. Eight so the expectation or the assumption
is that he is, hoping he Meaning, cooper hoping that
one of those three teams will trade up to get
(25:24):
him and if not comfortable enough to allow him to
slip to one of those. Spots, NOW i think they're
they're you, know the big philosophy there is they Believe
Ace bailey is a top three player in this, draft
AS i do as, well and they want him to
be in a program where he has the runway to prove.
It they don't necessarily think that'll happen in places Like, Philadelphia,
(25:47):
utah Or. Charlotte SO i think that is the best
way to summarize what's gone on With Ace.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Bailey, okay who's the, sleeper who's the guy? Who and
it doesn't have to be that far, Down BUT i
think most people only Know cooper flag in this. DRAFT
i really. Do who's the guy that we should actually know.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
About, WELL i, mean the low hanging fruit here Is Dylan, harper,
right who Was bailey's high school. Teammate he's going to
be the second pick in the. Draft The spurs are
going to take. Him there was some speculation that they
might trade him because they traded For Dearn fox and
they Drafted Steph castle last, year and those three guys
the fit together isn't isn't natural because none of them
(26:34):
are great, shooters and so there's concerns about the floor.
Spacing HARPER i think After flag has the next best
chance to be An All. Star He's Ron harper's, son
first of, all so he's grown up in this. World
he knows what it. Takes but he's a with shoes
on just under a six foot six lead. Guard he's
got pretty good, length the strong, frame he's left, handed
(26:55):
really good playmaking, instincts a terrific kind of instinctual feel
for the. Game and it's going to come down to
just how good is the. Shooting when he was making
shots In, december there was actually a discussion about whether
he Or Cooper flag was the best freshman in college.
Basketball now he wasn't able to sustain. It injuries played
a part in, that but the, shooting and THEN i
(27:16):
think the durability, too because this is a guy who
has missed time this year with, injury was beat up
a little bit in high, school so that's something that
teams are worried. About but if he stays healthy and he,
shoots this is someone who's who's got a significant upside
and is as good of a lead guard prospect as
we've had from the college basketball ranks in a long.
Time so he's not really a, sleeper but outside Of,
(27:37):
cooper he's the name to.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Know last, Thing you've been doing this for a, Minute
Shay Gildas, alexander did you see this?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Coming, no, NO i don't. THINK i don't think anyone.
Did but the THING i would tell you is that
when you talk to THE nba people who their job
isn't to their job isn't to try and go viral
like their their job is to make educated. Best SO
sga was someone THAT i THINK i don't think anyone foresaw,
(28:09):
This but were there markers that could eventually HIT i
think people IN okaycu would tell you. Yes, now the
probability of this outcome was very, low but it wasn't.
Impossible SO i think that's the thing is that you,
know in the draft, world we talk like things are foregone,
conclusions but when you talk to the people inside THE,
nba they talk about likelihood and probabilities and variables that
(28:32):
could impact the trajectory of years down the. Road and
so just the type of discourse is very very. Different
short answer to your question is, NO i. Didn't i'm
not sure anybody, did but there were there were enough
things to create some long term.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Optimism, adam you're the best. MAN i. Know it's a
busy time to ball is a busy. DAY i look
forward to watching your work AND i really appreciate you joining.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Us all, Right Thanks, doug That's Adam.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Picklestin really good. Dude by the, Way Director scouting at
twenty four Seven Sports College Basketball insider FOR Cbs SPORTS.
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Speaker 6 (29:14):
Podcasts maybe we could Rank Aaron rodgers' top three moments
of his career coming up in game, Time.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Doug only if we do with love and fun and.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Peace, okay there you. Go the three characteristics Of Aaron rodgers.
Retirement rank those.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Love, fun PIECE i would say piece at, three love it,
too and funmce love.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Doll that was run at the. Ready good.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Job see that was, Good. Sam thank You. Sam that
criticize you when you when you don't do. Good that's
what you. Did a good, Thing.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Stace Have, google you know that's all you.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Did a good. Thing by the, way can we get
buyers internet? Fixed? Like my, GOODNESS i know we're working
on the studio.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Here it's a bigger problem with the phone line in
here as.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well so can we get buyer's phone line?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Fixed that's a bigger.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Problem but can we get them both? Fixed are we
asking that much kind of? Internet we're working on. It Al,
gore where are? You you invented the? Thing we don't
have it. Working among the THINGS i love about politics
Was Al gore slid in there that he invented The.
Internet we're, like, what, yeah but in The, internet just keep,
(30:33):
going just just just keep.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Going be sure to catch the live edition Of The
Doug Gottlieb show weekdays at three Pm eastern Noon.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Pacific it's A Doug Gottlieb. Show you're listening To Fox Sports.
Radio dude do every day at this. Time finally we
get our, Guy Dan. Buyer can we Get Damn buyer's internet?
Fixed and his phone line? Too i'm just gonna keep
asking until it automatically gets. Done in the, meantime we
(31:05):
will Bring Dan byer back. In let's play a. Game
this is game time on The Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Show should be noted for the record That i'm also
luckily the one that broke, it so that was not
on purpose, inadvertently BUT i may have been the reason
for that. Fall all, right what did you? Do so
the cord didn't the phone didn't have a lot of?
Cord what did you? Do and we are trying to
pull the phone closer to where we, sat and WHEN
(31:38):
i sogged and it didn't really. Give there wasn't a
lot of. SLACK i think it may have pulled another
chord and just ruined. Everything and that was On, Friday
so great. Job AS stained, said it's been a, while
BUT i was likely that. Fault the game today is rank.
THEM i do want to do this almost as a group. Project,
(32:02):
okay shun't have it on the. Script but top Three
Aaron rodgers moments of his, Career, okay.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Because can they? Do they have to be?
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Good, No and THAT'S. I i have a top three
in my, head BUT i JUST i don't know if
you guys will have the.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Same so my top my top three would be number
one will be winning The Super.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
Bowl, YEP i agree with. That that was.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
MINE i think number two has to be the.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Vaxsteal, OKAY i did not have. THAT i had him
running out with the. Flag oh, okay, YEAH i.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
WOULDN'T i would not have that. One that. ONE i,
WOULD i.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Would it represents so much more now it's it just
represents a different thing.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Now, YEAH i think Number so that's So i'm. Working
USUALLY i do three two. One this is one two,
three and THEN i think the third one would BE
i kind of think that one of the Hail, mary
yes or or, HONESTLY i still own you with The.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
BEARS i thought discount double.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Check oh, yeah but that was The Super bowl, year wasn't. It.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
NO i think it was the whole, Belt, yeah you,
know the whole. Belt BUT i kind of put discount
double check with that a little, bit but it's.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yours it is, interesting like there is a there is
a little it's a little hypocrisy to, it, RIGHT a
guy who's like anti, corporation anti, everything and he has
this celebration he puts on the, belt and then it
became synonymous with an insurance, company right because.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
The little double.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
CHECKS i think him telling the bears fantasy owns. THEM
i definitely would agree that's the top. Three there was
a moment in, time and this interests me BECAUSE i
Watched The bachelor a. Lot his brother went On The.
Bachelor oh, yeah and broke the news that his family
(34:12):
no longer associates With aaron and It's aaron's. Choice that
was that was huge news in THE. Nfl and they
went To aaron and asked him at his locker room
And aaron's, LIKE i don't, KNOW i hope he wins the.
Show AND i just thought that was so funny Because
The bachelor it's about falling in. Love they are real
(34:33):
people trying to find their spouses fall in. Love and he's,
LIKE i hope he wins the. SHOW i thought that was.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Funny that was kind of done on A rogers impression as. Well,
yeah it sounds kind of talks like.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
This all, Right, michelle that's that's my voice for my.
Dog actually my. Dog everyone has.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
A good, time all, Right DOUG rg your top THREE
nba title contenders for next? Season oh, gosh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Too title contenders for next?
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Season, Hmmm, Thunder, Rockets, Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
CELTICS i Mean, mavericks, RIGHT i Think mavericks would be
pretty good. Too, YEAH i Think spurs be pretty. GOOD
i will.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
GO i Said liqueurs Like lakers Because.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Laker. Girls i'm gonna Go, Rockets thunder and The New York.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Knicks, okay, WOW i like.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
IT i don't think they stand. PAD i think they
make some moves in The New York.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Knicks all, Right Iowa, sam you're gonna be on. Deck
there's one For Iowa. Sam. Here. Uh top three championship
apparel or memorabilia to? Buy so if you're A thunder,
fan what are you? Buying?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Shirts one is always the. HAT i just in terms
of cost per. Use you, know you can't wear A
t shirt every? DAY i mean you, can but, yeah
where's a hat you? CAN i mean remember that Hat
Brett favo war when he came out of retirement back
with The. Vikings you're, like that's that's a.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Hat it's, warned, Right, yeah The nike golf. Hat wash your?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Hat he looked like you mode in that. One you
don't wash your.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Hat every time you wear, it you, know you just wear.
It so you don't a, shirt you would wash it
after you wore. IT a, hat you can just wear
it and until it, stinks.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yes and and then you wear it even more SO
i do a hat. ONE i would do a sweatshirt,
too AND i would do A t. Shirt.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Three what about like a framed. Poster, yeah there's frame.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
POSTERS i was thinking about. That or you, know a
flag for your car like, media.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
It's Your Lario bryan. Trophy, sure right next to. Me
that Was Sam's christmas gift THAT i got him this.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Year he got me some AWESOME iowa rivalry. Trophies there are, ornaments,
yes the, minis but they can also be used just as. Decor,
Yes oh we're gonna miss. Out we are out of.
Time we're going to miss out On. Iowa sam's top
three weekends of his. Life, wow that's for another.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Day that's game, time.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Game this is game time on The Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
SHOW i, mean we can do that top of THE.
R i think that actually be kind of. Interesting i'm,
kidding but we could also do the summer Plans top
Three Summer, plans or we could read You Tyre's haliburton's
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