June 24, 2024 • 39 mins
Doug Gottlieb gives his thoughts on rumors of a budding feud between Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy. Jordan Love had huge news over the weekend, and it wasn't a new contract. How much of a distraction will Aaron Rodgers' absence from minicamp truly be for the Jets this season? Plus, another head coaching vacancy has been filled in the NBA.
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You are absolutely great. Uh Stap, You've heard the miss before.
But apparently apparently jj Red I mean Jerry Jones and
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Mike McCarthy could be feuding. But before we get to that,
I do want to get to this story, which I
find to be absolutely fascinating that the Edmonton Oilers are
trying to come back from three games to none down
to win the Stanley Cup. And it's really interesting. You know,
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we've talked about for a good amount of time. We've
talked about our feelings, my feelings. I think I share
the feelings of the crew on the WNBA. And the
point is that I think we watch and talk about
WNBA basketball probably more than maybe it deserves based upon
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ratings and so on and so forth. But I also
think that it's super important. It's super important to recognize
that again in comparison to, for example, hockey, like this
is a gigantic story, a gigantic story. You're talking Stanley
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Cup Finals and it was a rap three games a none,
and now we're tied at three with a chance to
pull off the upset. And I've been doing sports radio
long enough. I remember when the Red Sox came from
three games none down. That was a seminal moment in
sports in my lifetime. And that wasn't even in the
World Series. We talked today about you today about the
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Cleveland Cavaliers coming from three games to one down. That's
not even three games to none. The point is that,
don't get me wrong, hockey fans can be obnoxious at times.
They don't listen to a lot of sports radio. That's
one reason we don't talk about hockey, but it is
a big time sport. It's probably the fourth. You know,
it's like the it's like the players Championship has always
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been the other the fifth major. It's always been like
the fourth major sport. And obviously it kind of like
women's basketball. Scenes its spiked out, it saw its rise
in the early nineties, early to mid nineties. It's gone
through ups and downs and been carried on, not carried
on the right networks. Was on NBC, now on ESPN, ABC.
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But is it an interesting that I haven't heard one
bit of complaining And maybe it's because, you know, Hockey
Guy doesn't listen to sports radio, But we haven't got
any complain from Hockey Guy about how much or how
little coverage they're getting of this what could be historic night.
And the point is this, I just I can't have
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people on this show lie to you all. And so
there is no boogeyman. There is nobody against the big
three women's sports, Hockey, Tennis, disc golf. I don't care.
We cover not necessarily what we love the best, but
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what we found you love the best, what is hottest
in your mind? And I don't know one hockey player.
I'm almost a bit embarrassed a minute, but I all
a menut because I was told every study tells you
he really cares about hockey, and every store study up
until this year will tell you no one really cares
about the WNBA. So let's not really fool ourselves and
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act like this isn't something new that we didn't previously
care and if we start that way at full honesty,
we can have reasonable discussions. Good, Okay, good, It still
is pretty cool. And you know, regardless of it, I'm
not like, I'm like, I'm not a Panther fan. I
don't pretend to be, nor should any of you pretend
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to be. But it is interesting that what happens, and
this is just like the NCAA tournament, and it happens
just like this in any sport which is now how
can you not how can you not root for the
Oilers to pull off this? Like I know nothing about
anything about nothing, but I want to see the Oilers win.
Why Because I think that's incredible, the abity to come
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from three games none down. Oh, I'm all in again.
Like I don't even know the players at play, I
know nothing about it, and I still want to see
the underdogs win. It's just like the NCAA term when
you're sitting there and you're at the Spokane Regional and
suddenly the thirteen seed is given the four seed. The
business you become whoever that school is that thirteen seed,
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you become their biggest fan. Why because you want to
see an upset. I don't know what that is about
human nature, but that's what we do. All right, Let's
get to this other story. Stop me heard this before,
But Jerry Jones is a meddling owner. Look, I feel
zero sympathy for Mike McCarthy, none, none. And look, Mike
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McCarthy kind of played the game. Remember when he got
When he got the got the job, he told everybody
he'd watched every snap every game the Cowboys had played,
and then once he had the job, he admitted that
wasn't totally true. If you didn't know that Jerry Jones
was a meddling owner and you took the head coaching
job of the Dallas Cowboys, then shame on you. You
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use that in order to get the job to begin with.
Why would we think that doesn't exist? I mean, it's
it's almost not worth the and it's not printed on paper.
It's not worth the website that it's even printed on
Jerry Jones is a Medley owner. Yes, And the sun
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rises in the east and sets in the west. Yes.
And Aaron Rodgers is going to be a space cadet
and all he cares about is Aaron Rodgers. Yes. And
Lebron James is going to get coaches fired and then
claim having nothing to do with it. Like, none of
this is at all a surprise to anybody, is it?
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None of it? So I don't even know what to
make of this story. It's like, uh huh uh huh oh,
he's undermining you. Like, look, this is really easy. If
you're Mike McCarthy, win playoff games, don't completely embarrass yourself
against a really young team like you did against the
Green Bay Packers, and blame anybody else. There is no
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pressure on Dallas. If you simply win games. Simply win games,
there's no undermining. You should be happy that you have
a job. I would have fired him and hired Bill Belichick,
and Bill Belichick would have taken the job knowing full
well Jerry Jones is a pain in the ass. Why
Because that's what Jerry Jones is. When you're in your eighties,
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you're not changing and changing. I gonna go from him
being a medaling owner. It's like, Okay, now I'm gonna
have my hands off. Guys, why would you do that?
You're not going to I don't know. I'm of this
of the mindset. I'm not even sure I feel giving
the story And I'm not saying the story is not valid,
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But the story, I don't care because none of it
is a surprise, none of it. None of it is
different than I thought it would be. That makes any sense, Like, oh,
Jerry Jones is a meddling owner. Of course he is.
McCarthy's reportedly getting fed up with Jerry Jones undermining him.
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That's per Tyler Dunn. McCarthy's doing the best he can.
Some people I've talked to you have have said he's
getting fed up a little bit. All right, Well, we're
all fed up that your team doesn't achieve anything in
the postseason. And if you didn't know Jerry Jones was
going to be the meddling owner, where have you been
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here as we'll get to Dan Byer in a moment
for an update. So JJ Redick is the new head
coach of the LA Lakers. And we said this before,
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but if JJ Reddicks head coach, he does a podcast
with Lebron James. I don't really want to hear any
nonsense over Ronnie James having to be drafted or Lebron
being a real free agent like coming back. That's this guy.
He's the head coach. Now you move now, will we do?
It'll be fine? Will he be elite? Well, if he's
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gonna be elite, he's got to get better players. I
don't think Dangel Russell is good enough. I clearly think
they gotta figure you know, it's they have three really
good players, and right now Lebron is probably the most
limited defensively. So I think you're gonna get better buy
in from Austin Austin Reeves than you did when he
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was with Darvin Ham who they didn't see him to
get along. But what they can do with D'Angelo Russell,
what they can do with the with the salary space
that's opened up, that's gonna be everything. But if if
Anthony Davis, Lebron James, and Austin Reeves he heal, it's
a playoff team if you added another piece potentially more.
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Is it a top four playoff team. It's not. It's
not not Lebron at forty And remember you're coming off
of your way. Anthony Davis was as healthy and sharp
and in shape as he's ever been. All of that
stuff is is good stuff. Okay, like he'll be fine,
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But Lebron is not a free agent. He's coming back.
They won't. They won't be. They shouldn't feel like they're
forced to draft Brownie. If they do it, they're gonna
do it because they think it's the right thing to do,
not because he's the fifty fifth best player in this
this draft. That's fine. Like people have spent second round picks,
you know, to do a favor in the past. Do
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I think that's the Lakers should do. Probably not. But
if it's a way of rewarding Lebron, you would have
done this reward Kobe, You would have done this reward Magic.
You would have this this to to reward most of
your other players if it was anywhere in the scenario.
I don't think it's a crazy thing to do, But
I don't think you have to do it because Lebron
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got his coach so now he's got to come back.
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other things going on in sports that are just kind
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of little things, right, little things. So I saw Jordan
Love got got engaged yesterday, So one contract before the
other contract. I do wonder if you know a big
contract extension is coming, do you wait right? What do
you think byer? Like? Is that one of those like
everybody knows he's getting a contract extension? What happens after that?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So you're saying, like you're basically saying, do the contract first,
have your money and then get engaged? Or are you
saying because there's two ways to go about it, because
she could say no. Let's just say if she was
in it for the money, which I don't think she is,
and something happens and he doesn't get that contract, she
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could back out and or it's then the old you know,
prenup discussion, right is that? Is that where we're going
on this or what's the deal? I'm just thinking scandalous here.
I wish them nothing but the best. But I was
just trying to guess your line of questioning that I
thought was maybe down these you know, those sort of roads.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
No, I'm not honestarily prenup. I just don't know, like, yeah,
I mean, look, they've been together for four years, right,
so she's been even when people thought he couldn't play football,
she was there.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. By the way, I am, I am completely joking.
I do not mean to pick apart Jordan Love's really
I was just no, no, no, I'm not. I feel like
I'm being hung out to dry a little bit because
I thought it was like, no, not so I do.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
It is a joke. Short is a joke, short thing,
So I don't think. But I'm again, I'm I'm sitting
there going like, do you ask her before or after
you get the deal? And yeah, you got it? Don't
you have to have a prenup discussion.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It's a real question, huh, I think so?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Don't you hardest deal ever the hardest deal ever, you know,
So that's yeah, that's that's really really.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Where were you? Where were you going with this? You
were saying I was going.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I was going exactly where you thought it was going,
all right. I was only trying to make sure people
understood like it wasn't like she just got on the bandwagon.
Now she's been there the whole time. But do you
go do you wait until sign the new deal? Or
do you not? And I guess his answer is not,
I just I don't know. I don't know how that
I you don't know what that goes? And do you
when you ask her do you throw in do you
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think she knows? Hey? Just you know, like we're gonna
have a prenup. It's a real like this is a
real thing, as much as it's got to be super uncomfortable.
Don't you have to or maybe you don't. I don't know.
Maybe you just go like, ah, I'm gonna getting married forever.
And that's that's it. You know, she's she's my one. Sure,
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what do you do in that situation? Ryan Burschinger, what
do you do? I want to ask you, honestly, you know,
you know you know you're going to come into fifty
million dollars around fifty million dollars a year, right, so
you you're talking one hundred million dollars are gonna be
in your ban account? Do you bring it up? Like
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is it in the you know we're gonna have Like,
how do you do that? How would you do that?
How would you perceive?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I don't know how I would go about doing that.
I do think that I I think he made the
right move by proposing first, because I think it looks
really good, uh, for her, especially like.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, she was she was with me before all this time. Yeah, yeah,
she's right, yeah, I mean right, like you have to
go two months, like she's like two months, two months.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And he's saying to her like, look, I didn't I
know that that money's going to come eventually, but this,
this was the most important thing for me.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Sure, So I think I think that looks great on him.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think all that looks good. I just want to
know how you work it all together because it all
is one big because you know, I'm sure there'll be
people to go, oh, you know he asked you before
he got the big contract because he gonna have to
give you that big, big, big ring or There'll be
something like, well, are you going to sign a prenup?
And just you know, she's a volleyball player, she actually
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works out here, like there's no negatives there, but just
this is the reality of any sort of conversation when
you throw in uh, seven eight figures, right, eight figures.
I just think it's we you know, it's just interesting,
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all right. I don't to answer the question. I do
think you have to have the conversation. From my perspective,
you have to have the conversation. I think what you
do is you let the initial you know, like I
think they're traveling somewhere, look like that looked like a
foreign country. That looked like Italy or something. I don't
know where that is, did not look like Green Bay.
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So they're traveling, You have the trip. You make sure
she has the ring. At some point when you start
to get to the details of it, that's when you go, like,
we just we have to talk like future estate planning.
I think you wrap it in a state planning, don't you.
You don't just lead with the prenup. You go, hey,
let's do some like estate planning, some future stuff, you know,
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just make maybe make sure we get everything or do
you just go like we gotta do prenup? What would
your stout Dan? If you're if you're coming into a
contract worth over a hundred million dollars and you could
go back with Lisa who was before with you before
you're worth a hundred million dollars. When people questioned you,
how would you handle it?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, I would position it in a way where it's
best for both parties. That's what I would say, Like,
this is you know, this is best for for all
of us, this is best for the family. Let's let's
let's do it this. If you were trying to trying
to get a prenup, That's how I positioned it. If
I was Jordan love or you.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Got probably best for her.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I don't know. I'm not sure just but but it
could just help better.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I love it. I'm like I'm sitting here taking notes
like this genius. But then I'm thinking myself, like, how's
it better for me if if you leave and I
only get a set amount of money? Oh, these are
first world problems. We'd all like to have one hundred
and fifty million dollars coming our way or two hundred
fifty million dollars coming our way so that we could decide.
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I just I think what I would do. I think
what I would do would be I would say like, hey, mabe, listen,
we got it, like we're gonna get and you probably
can put this thing off. I mean, unless you're like
speed dating and trying to get married here you know,
next summer. But even if it's gonna be like next summer,
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you know, you wait a little bit and then once
you get to the planning thing, you let somebody else
kind of handle it, and you don't, you know, we
just go like, hey, let's do some mistake planning. Let's
figure some of this stuff out long term, right, this
is long term. But I just don't know. If you
mentioned the word prenop what again, I've never I've only
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been married once. I had no money when I got married,
so it wasn't an issue. So I never felt like, hey,
this is half my stuff. But that's a different scenario there.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's I I mean, if it was my, if it
was me, if you're asking if it was me and
my yeah, I'd probably just not mention it and chicken
out and just not have one, not have one. I
mean no, if you're ask if it was me. Yeah,
like I just yeah, but then again, I'm not in
the in the type of money that Jordan.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Like, I know, it's really hard, Like that's a hard conversation,
but it is one you kind of got to have.
Like when you guys got married, did you talk about religion?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Oh? Do you talk about how many kids you want
to have? No?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
That?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I mean no, this is the part where we just
stop asking Dan questions. I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I love your honesty.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I just don't like to get Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Again you don't like to get too person in my bed, Okay,
I just it's just again that's one I'm problem with you.
I don't like having those uncomfortable conversations either. But I
think this is one where you go like, yeah, you
gotta have one, gotta have that one.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It does come with the territory of that yes, yes,
like that, like it's she shouldn't be offended by it,
like it's.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I mean, I think it's all in the presentation.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Sure, I think you can frame it in a way
where you say, like it's kind of procedural and it
kind of just comes with you know, this amount of money,
like yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
But you can't you can't match there's definitely going to
be some negative emotion there, and you can't be like
just super matter of fact and act like it's nothing
right right because you're going. And again you can't do
it now because you're going right now. It's the fairytale wedding.
Do whatever you want, plan whatever you want. This is amazing.
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We're gonna stay together forever, and let's hope they do.
They very meant, well made. But you know, part of
the lawyer thing is they gotta, as Dan said, kind
of protect both parties. So you can't write it in
there to where there's an amount where she's going to
be super comfortable. You know, let's get to this. Julian Edelman,
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who I frankly love as a broadcaster. He brings a
different look and an honesty and a real world experience.
Jill Leivan was on the Hurd earlier today. He said
this about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I'm a big Aaron Rodgers fan, but if I was
in that locker room and Aaron Rodgers wasn't there for
three days on the mandatory mini.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Camps, having played four snaps last.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Year, having played four snaps off of an injury, when
we have two new receivers. We got a bunch of
new linemen that we added to the team with a
CBA that doesn't allow us to practice a lot. I
guarantee there's four or five guys, six, seven, eight, nine
guys in that locker room sitting there like where's he
at now? If they start four and O, no one's
going to care, that's right, But this is the NFL.
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I think it's a bad look for your leader, for
whatever reason, to go and miss an unexcused absence. I
mean I was with Tom Brady in his twentieth fifth
year or twenty third year, and he started he started
missing OTAs here and there, but he was still there
and never missed a mandatory mini camp. And you know,
I just thought it was a bad look.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Completely agree. And then when you factor in the jexaposition
of last year when he wanted to do everything, and
then this year when he's back to doing Aaron Rodgers stuff.
And we've said this before, and I say this to
my team. You can say you want to win, but
if you want to win, you got to be there.
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You got to establish and build these relationships, you got
to work every day to get better. All of those things,
all of them Stut Gottlieb Show. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
So I guess the question becomes like, that's the that's
the standard. But now the Jets have allowed, you know,
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you allowed Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron Rodgers kind of duped him.
Last year was so good, and then oh oh, let's
extend the contract, Let's do it for more than a year,
let's stay here as much as possible. And now he's
back to being Aaron Rodgers flighty, a no show, and
I'm sure he can perform fine. The question is everybody else.
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You know, Aaron is somebody who holds everyone else to
a remarkably high standard of work, ethic and intensity. That's great,
but how can you do that when you're not there?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, I heard Doug some people justifying, like, what's
the big deal? You know, if he goes out and
he throws three touchdowns, you know, opening night against the
forty nine ers, nobody's going to care about a mandatory
mini camp. But that is it is such a false
argument because him not showing up maybe the reason why
he doesn't throw three touchdowns on opening night at mini
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camp or you know, on opening out of the season,
because he missed Mini camp, like any sort of failure
from Aaron Rodgers this season for him, now you can
just point to you can always look back and say, well,
listen that it's not the unfamiliarity with the surroundings because
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he had the ability to become familiar with those, even
if it was for just three days in June.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You're completely right, You're completely right, you know, because what
happens is if it all goes right, then yeah, everybody forget.
Everybody forgets. But on the one route where there's a
miscommunication on the one time when there's pressure and he's
given a hand signal and somebody doesn't know the hand
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signal on the one time which there's a limit to
the playbook because he doesn't know it like the back
of his hand or somebody else hasn't done that with
him on that one time, that's what's on him. And like,
what's the point If you want to not work right now,
don't be a quarterback right now? This is this is Yeah,
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you have enough money, You've won a super Bowl, you
made hundreds of millions of dollars, you've been a multi
time MVP. Like, if you don't want to do this,
don't do it. But if you want to do it,
why wouldn't you do it right? But the biggest thing
is Aaron Rodgers has always always been demonstrative in you know,
pointing out when his teammates aren't aren't doing the right
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thing on the field, aren't in the right place, and
his by language will get bad. Nobody can do that
with Aaron. You hold your leader to at least the
standard that he holds everyone else to, if not a
higher standard. So yeah, when if you get former players
like a Julian and I'm going to say it's a
bad look, that means it's a horrible look.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And you know the funny thing is you talk about
standards as well, Doug. I would argue that for any
player in the position to captivate and grab the city
of New York, the bar is at the absolute lowest
right now for Aaron Rodgers to reach that sort of
idle level, just because the Jets have been so bad
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in just terms of turning them around, giving them an
exciting season, beating teams maybe that they haven't beaten before,
haven't beaten in a while, and to be able to
do that sort of thing in that city where it
takes a long time to build up a lot of
equity like that is, I mean, it is, it is
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right there for him. He probably would have to do
less than any other New York legend with just one
really good season in New York, and he would be
thought of as great because that's all. That's all that
they want. The bar is so low to have success
for the Jets. If you're a nick a Giant, a Yankee,
a met you know, to be able to reach the
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level of idle status in that city for what you
actually have to accomplish, Yeah, there's no shorter or quicker
road than what Aaron Rodgers has. And for him to
already be taking shortcuts or not, I mean, that's it's
crazy to think.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I think it's I think it's absolutely crazy. And I
know you have been I don't want to say anti
Aaron Rodgers, but you have called Aaron Rodgers BS a
lot more than I have. And I'm completely on board
with you on this one completely. I just like, what
are we doing here? You know, it's it's and and
Brady is the example. Brady played into his forties and
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he you know, remember during COVID he was organizing workouts
they weren't supposed to have he he it was a
job and he was willing to show up and do it.
And I think the thing about Aaron Rodgers. I understand
you want to have a life, You want to do
all these other things. You know, you want to lock
in for football when it's time to lock in for
football in your mind. Okay, But if you're to this
(28:44):
point now where you're playing because you want to, not
because you need to. If you don't want to do
the little things and the extra practices and the extra
work that everybody else is doing, well, then you don't
actually want to be playing football. What are you doing?
You're just stealing money. Thanks for listening to The Dog
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(29:07):
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I love these stories. You got a little love it
hate from the Weekend. Kenny Atkinson, the New Calves head
coach got to get to that next hour. Rick Buker's
gonna join us next hour as well. Before we get
tell all that, though, let's get you to Dan Bayer
(29:28):
and play a game.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. You know,
Doug not to not to dwell on Aaron Rodgers, but
one other thing popped up in my mind as we
were talking about him not attending mini camp. There's gonna
be some point in training camp where he's gonna want
a veteran off day, right, I think those are those
(29:53):
are those are normal? Sure, and it would be much
more normal if you showed up to mandatory mini camp.
But now when he's going to miss a day of camp,
you're gonna say, what Rogers is missing again? Oh, it's
a normal vet day. Yeah, Well he didn't show up,
but he was supposed to show up last month. Like
it just all becomes an issue and talking about the
greatness of the how low the bar is set in
(30:14):
New York. Now you've got off on this foot with
the media, you know this time around, how friendly are
they going to be? Probably not so much? All right?
End of Aaron Rodgers discussion.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
No, you bring up a great point. There's no equity
at all, Like any equity had totally cashed in. Now
it's now it's Aaron being about Aaron, and I agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Go ahead, all right. The game today is big deal,
little deal, nod all right, big deal, a little deal
of no deal, Doug. That the Lakers want to surround
JJ Reddick with a veteran staff. Veteran staff, that's a
big deal.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's a big deal. Your staff is everything and coaching,
and they have to they have to fill in the
holes that that you're missing. That's really it. So I
mean to kind of tell what's gonna happen. He's gonna
have what you call an old head on staff, somebody
has been through all the wars. Probably guy's been a
head coach, you know. Then we'll have two bright front
(31:17):
of the bench assistants and then they'll just try and
load up the rest of that. You know, you can
have kind of as many assistants as you want behind
the bench. So the question for the Lakers is, and
I think you know, they showed their hand with Danny Hurley,
like if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it right.
You gave him I think a four year contract. You know,
you save some money not getting Danny, so I get
(31:38):
to spend some money on a better staff for JJO.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'll also say this, Doug, because you've talked about this
a lot since you took the green Bay job. And
hire people that know the things that you don't know
in your situation. I can understand why Green Bay would
want to dive into the Doug Gottlieb treasure chest, and
then you fill it out as you may. But my
whole thing with Reddick is is like, if you're going
(32:01):
outside of the box and then you surround him with
veteran assistants, it sounds good on the surface, but then
what's the point of JJ Redick? Like, what is what
is his reason of being there in terms of.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
What does he bring?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, Like, I think it's a lot more easier to
explain what you bring to Green Bay than what JJ
Reddick is going to bring to the Lakers. If he's
surrounded by you know, other veteran coaches in the NBA
that have been there before. I just I want to
know then, what is different than why not have one
of those guys just end up coaching?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Well?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I think I think that two things would be the sale.
One would be the relationship with current players and respect
that he gets. Right, you're not going to win an
NBA title unless they respect you. A lot of times
they don't respect you unless you've won an NBA title.
You've played, you know, a long time in the NBA.
So it's a bit of a catch twenty two sure,
but I think that's part of it, all right, and
(32:55):
we know you're not going to win there unless you
got the respect Lebron James. The second part is I
do think that he has a great vantage point for
what good offense is and you know, how to play.
I think there's a high basketball IQ you there, especially
with what you'd call, you know, he he spanned both generations,
which is, you know, you go back to when Lebron
(33:17):
was first a star and it was a little bit
more ISO friendly, whereas now there's a lot more ball
movement and a lot more what's it called matchup chasing,
mismatch chasing. So I do think there's a basketbay Q there.
But I think the number one thing he brings is
the respecting can garner within the locker room and the
(33:38):
fact that he's much more of an analytical, prepared thinker,
whereas Darvinham was a lot more of the just hey,
let's just go out there and play hard and be
tougher than the other team.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Big deal, little deal or no deal that Kenny Atkinson
is the new head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I think that's a little deal. It's hard to tell
here because Kenny Atkinson has previously been a head coach
with three Have Project right in Brooklyn, and then you
know he was a a lad assistant with the Golden
State Warriors. So the question becomes, are they gonna scrap
(34:21):
it and start over? I don't think so. His system
that he likes to run is one that's beneficial for
the group, not necessarily for individuals. Does that work with
Donovan Mitchell? My guess is this is one that Donovan
Mitchell signed off on, and the question is can Donovan
Mitchell adjust his own game to playing that way? But
I think it's a little deal because it's not a
huge name coach and it's probably not one that upsets
(34:45):
much of the applecart there.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
All right, A big deal, little deal or no deal
that Mets closer Edwin Diaz was tossed for having an
illegal substance on his pitching hand. Unless that's what over
the Cubs.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think it's a big deal. Like you didn't know
they're gonna check your hand, right, Yes, you didn't know.
I've been to three baseball games this year, and every inning,
in every game, they check guy's hands. I don't you know.
It's like the guy who gets who gets arrested because
(35:17):
he had a gun in his bag. Oh are you
checking those? Like, yeah, we're checking the backs.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Uh, the close up as well of the hand that
just I mean it is it just caked in it? Yeah?
They look like there's there may be some callouses here
and there, which we all get. But I love a
good scandal in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I love it too, you know, I totally love it.
But I just think that's one where it's like, really,
that's what you tried to get away with.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Oh, great stuff from the MLB last night. Met's have
been providing a lot of headlines for us, all right,
big deal, little deal, or no deal. That the Sky
defeated the Fever as Angel Reese had a career high
twenty five points and added sixteen rebounds in the win. Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I think that was a big deal. I do, because
you know, Angel Reaes has this double double streak going.
But more than anything, like, look, she's a different player.
She's more kind of classic power forward, obviously not terribly skilled.
But the bigger thing was they won. You know, they
talked all that junk and been super physical and tried
to be tough against the Fever previously, and the Fever
even when they weren't playing well. The one team they
(36:24):
could beat with Chicago, and now the Fever are playing
better and Chicago beats them. I think that was a
big deal. It's a big win for.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Them, coming off of a game where she also had
eighteen rebounds in the contest prior. All right, big deal,
little deal of no deal that Kate and Clark said
it would be quote a lot of fun end quote
to play with Angel Reaes in the WNBA All Star
Game if both are chosen.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I just I think it's a little deal or no
deal at all. She always says the right thing. Has
she ever said anything that it was any way divisive?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
No, It's like she studied every pr thing for how
does the art of saying very very little? She says
just enough to be really engaged in really likable and
not enough to get anybody truly upset if you actually
listen to it. All right, pr one on one, Yeah,
final one.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Doug big deal, little dealer, no no deal, that old
miss football his debut a road white uniform with white
helmet and powder blue print. Now they've used the powder
blues before, but this is the first time that they're
actually going to have a road uniform with the powder blue.
I did retweet it with the caption ooh la la
on the quote retweet if you want to take a
(37:31):
look at it, but you know, obviously.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Looking at I'm looking at it right now on their page.
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, it's really sharp.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That is really good. That is really really good.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Look good, play good.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, and they've been playing good of late as well.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
How are the uniforms coming with the Phoenix season? Like,
do you good?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Pretty good? Okay, pretty good? We have one special one
that we're we're having designed. I got a big hand
in the other two being designed, and I think I
think people like them.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Do you have a city connect that like honors the
Packers in Bay Beach at all?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's that's part of the special one that I'm allowing
somebody else's designing that uniform.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Okay, all right, then you're like, I'll.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Tell you off air and you'll I think you'll like
it a lot more than the idea. You kind of okay,
whatever you're doing there, this one I think you'll like.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
All right, Okay, and that's game time.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
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Had a great sunset over Lake, Michigan and Green Bay
last night. I do know what your weekend was like,
and it's hot in southern California wherever you have been.
I hope you, hope you had a good weekend. Couse,
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We've got the NBA Draft coming up this week. We
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But apparently apparently jj Red I mean Jerry Jones and
(00:44):
Mike McCarthy could be feuding. But before we get to that,
I do want to get to this story, which I
find to be absolutely fascinating that the Edmonton Oilers are
trying to come back from three games to none down
to win the Stanley Cup. And it's really interesting. You know,
(01:05):
we've talked about for a good amount of time. We've
talked about our feelings, my feelings. I think I share
the feelings of the crew on the WNBA. And the
point is that I think we watch and talk about
WNBA basketball probably more than maybe it deserves based upon
(01:27):
ratings and so on and so forth. But I also
think that it's super important. It's super important to recognize
that again in comparison to, for example, hockey, like this
is a gigantic story, a gigantic story. You're talking Stanley
(01:51):
Cup Finals and it was a rap three games a none,
and now we're tied at three with a chance to
pull off the upset. And I've been doing sports radio
long enough. I remember when the Red Sox came from
three games none down. That was a seminal moment in
sports in my lifetime. And that wasn't even in the
World Series. We talked today about you today about the
(02:14):
Cleveland Cavaliers coming from three games to one down. That's
not even three games to none. The point is that,
don't get me wrong, hockey fans can be obnoxious at times.
They don't listen to a lot of sports radio. That's
one reason we don't talk about hockey, but it is
a big time sport. It's probably the fourth. You know,
it's like the it's like the players Championship has always
(02:36):
been the other the fifth major. It's always been like
the fourth major sport. And obviously it kind of like
women's basketball. Scenes its spiked out, it saw its rise
in the early nineties, early to mid nineties. It's gone
through ups and downs and been carried on, not carried
on the right networks. Was on NBC, now on ESPN, ABC.
(02:59):
But is it an interesting that I haven't heard one
bit of complaining And maybe it's because, you know, Hockey
Guy doesn't listen to sports radio, But we haven't got
any complain from Hockey Guy about how much or how
little coverage they're getting of this what could be historic night.
And the point is this, I just I can't have
(03:24):
people on this show lie to you all. And so
there is no boogeyman. There is nobody against the big
three women's sports, Hockey, Tennis, disc golf. I don't care.
We cover not necessarily what we love the best, but
(03:49):
what we found you love the best, what is hottest
in your mind? And I don't know one hockey player.
I'm almost a bit embarrassed a minute, but I all
a menut because I was told every study tells you
he really cares about hockey, and every store study up
until this year will tell you no one really cares
about the WNBA. So let's not really fool ourselves and
(04:12):
act like this isn't something new that we didn't previously
care and if we start that way at full honesty,
we can have reasonable discussions. Good, Okay, good, It still
is pretty cool. And you know, regardless of it, I'm
not like, I'm like, I'm not a Panther fan. I
don't pretend to be, nor should any of you pretend
(04:33):
to be. But it is interesting that what happens, and
this is just like the NCAA tournament, and it happens
just like this in any sport which is now how
can you not how can you not root for the
Oilers to pull off this? Like I know nothing about
anything about nothing, but I want to see the Oilers win.
Why Because I think that's incredible, the abity to come
(04:56):
from three games none down. Oh, I'm all in again.
Like I don't even know the players at play, I
know nothing about it, and I still want to see
the underdogs win. It's just like the NCAA term when
you're sitting there and you're at the Spokane Regional and
suddenly the thirteen seed is given the four seed. The
business you become whoever that school is that thirteen seed,
(05:17):
you become their biggest fan. Why because you want to
see an upset. I don't know what that is about
human nature, but that's what we do. All right, Let's
get to this other story. Stop me heard this before,
But Jerry Jones is a meddling owner. Look, I feel
zero sympathy for Mike McCarthy, none, none. And look, Mike
(05:42):
McCarthy kind of played the game. Remember when he got
When he got the got the job, he told everybody
he'd watched every snap every game the Cowboys had played,
and then once he had the job, he admitted that
wasn't totally true. If you didn't know that Jerry Jones
was a meddling owner and you took the head coaching
job of the Dallas Cowboys, then shame on you. You
(06:06):
use that in order to get the job to begin with.
Why would we think that doesn't exist? I mean, it's
it's almost not worth the and it's not printed on paper.
It's not worth the website that it's even printed on
Jerry Jones is a Medley owner. Yes, And the sun
(06:28):
rises in the east and sets in the west. Yes.
And Aaron Rodgers is going to be a space cadet
and all he cares about is Aaron Rodgers. Yes. And
Lebron James is going to get coaches fired and then
claim having nothing to do with it. Like, none of
this is at all a surprise to anybody, is it?
(06:49):
None of it? So I don't even know what to
make of this story. It's like, uh huh uh huh oh,
he's undermining you. Like, look, this is really easy. If
you're Mike McCarthy, win playoff games, don't completely embarrass yourself
against a really young team like you did against the
Green Bay Packers, and blame anybody else. There is no
(07:11):
pressure on Dallas. If you simply win games. Simply win games,
there's no undermining. You should be happy that you have
a job. I would have fired him and hired Bill Belichick,
and Bill Belichick would have taken the job knowing full
well Jerry Jones is a pain in the ass. Why
Because that's what Jerry Jones is. When you're in your eighties,
(07:33):
you're not changing and changing. I gonna go from him
being a medaling owner. It's like, Okay, now I'm gonna
have my hands off. Guys, why would you do that?
You're not going to I don't know. I'm of this
of the mindset. I'm not even sure I feel giving
the story And I'm not saying the story is not valid,
(07:54):
But the story, I don't care because none of it
is a surprise, none of it. None of it is
different than I thought it would be. That makes any sense, Like, oh,
Jerry Jones is a meddling owner. Of course he is.
McCarthy's reportedly getting fed up with Jerry Jones undermining him.
(08:14):
That's per Tyler Dunn. McCarthy's doing the best he can.
Some people I've talked to you have have said he's
getting fed up a little bit. All right, Well, we're
all fed up that your team doesn't achieve anything in
the postseason. And if you didn't know Jerry Jones was
going to be the meddling owner, where have you been
in the last twenty five years? Thanks for listening to
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here as we'll get to Dan Byer in a moment
for an update. So JJ Redick is the new head
coach of the LA Lakers. And we said this before,
(09:59):
but if JJ Reddicks head coach, he does a podcast
with Lebron James. I don't really want to hear any
nonsense over Ronnie James having to be drafted or Lebron
being a real free agent like coming back. That's this guy.
He's the head coach. Now you move now, will we do?
It'll be fine? Will he be elite? Well, if he's
(10:19):
gonna be elite, he's got to get better players. I
don't think Dangel Russell is good enough. I clearly think
they gotta figure you know, it's they have three really
good players, and right now Lebron is probably the most
limited defensively. So I think you're gonna get better buy
in from Austin Austin Reeves than you did when he
(10:41):
was with Darvin Ham who they didn't see him to
get along. But what they can do with D'Angelo Russell,
what they can do with the with the salary space
that's opened up, that's gonna be everything. But if if
Anthony Davis, Lebron James, and Austin Reeves he heal, it's
a playoff team if you added another piece potentially more.
(11:06):
Is it a top four playoff team. It's not. It's
not not Lebron at forty And remember you're coming off
of your way. Anthony Davis was as healthy and sharp
and in shape as he's ever been. All of that
stuff is is good stuff. Okay, like he'll be fine,
(11:28):
But Lebron is not a free agent. He's coming back.
They won't. They won't be. They shouldn't feel like they're
forced to draft Brownie. If they do it, they're gonna
do it because they think it's the right thing to do,
not because he's the fifty fifth best player in this
this draft. That's fine. Like people have spent second round picks,
you know, to do a favor in the past. Do
(11:48):
I think that's the Lakers should do. Probably not. But
if it's a way of rewarding Lebron, you would have
done this reward Kobe, You would have done this reward Magic.
You would have this this to to reward most of
your other players if it was anywhere in the scenario.
I don't think it's a crazy thing to do, But
I don't think you have to do it because Lebron
(12:09):
got his coach so now he's got to come back.
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other things going on in sports that are just kind
(12:35):
of little things, right, little things. So I saw Jordan
Love got got engaged yesterday, So one contract before the
other contract. I do wonder if you know a big
contract extension is coming, do you wait right? What do
you think byer? Like? Is that one of those like
everybody knows he's getting a contract extension? What happens after that?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So you're saying, like you're basically saying, do the contract first,
have your money and then get engaged? Or are you
saying because there's two ways to go about it, because
she could say no. Let's just say if she was
in it for the money, which I don't think she is,
and something happens and he doesn't get that contract, she
(13:18):
could back out and or it's then the old you know,
prenup discussion, right is that? Is that where we're going
on this or what's the deal? I'm just thinking scandalous here.
I wish them nothing but the best. But I was
just trying to guess your line of questioning that I
thought was maybe down these you know, those sort of roads.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
No, I'm not honestarily prenup. I just don't know, like, yeah,
I mean, look, they've been together for four years, right,
so she's been even when people thought he couldn't play football,
she was there.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. By the way, I am, I am completely joking.
I do not mean to pick apart Jordan Love's really
I was just no, no, no, I'm not. I feel like
I'm being hung out to dry a little bit because
I thought it was like, no, not so I do.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
It is a joke. Short is a joke, short thing,
So I don't think. But I'm again, I'm I'm sitting
there going like, do you ask her before or after
you get the deal? And yeah, you got it? Don't
you have to have a prenup discussion.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It's a real question, huh, I think so?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Don't you hardest deal ever the hardest deal ever, you know,
So that's yeah, that's that's really really.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Where were you? Where were you going with this? You
were saying I was going.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I was going exactly where you thought it was going,
all right. I was only trying to make sure people
understood like it wasn't like she just got on the bandwagon.
Now she's been there the whole time. But do you
go do you wait until sign the new deal? Or
do you not? And I guess his answer is not,
I just I don't know. I don't know how that
I you don't know what that goes? And do you
when you ask her do you throw in do you
(15:03):
think she knows? Hey? Just you know, like we're gonna
have a prenup. It's a real like this is a
real thing, as much as it's got to be super uncomfortable.
Don't you have to or maybe you don't. I don't know.
Maybe you just go like, ah, I'm gonna getting married forever.
And that's that's it. You know, she's she's my one. Sure,
(15:26):
what do you do in that situation? Ryan Burschinger, what
do you do? I want to ask you, honestly, you know,
you know you know you're going to come into fifty
million dollars around fifty million dollars a year, right, so
you you're talking one hundred million dollars are gonna be
in your ban account? Do you bring it up? Like
(15:51):
is it in the you know we're gonna have Like,
how do you do that? How would you do that?
How would you perceive?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I don't know how I would go about doing that.
I do think that I I think he made the
right move by proposing first, because I think it looks
really good, uh, for her, especially like.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, she was she was with me before all this time. Yeah, yeah,
she's right, yeah, I mean right, like you have to
go two months, like she's like two months, two months.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
And he's saying to her like, look, I didn't I
know that that money's going to come eventually, but this,
this was the most important thing for me.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Sure, So I think I think that looks great on him.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think all that looks good. I just want to
know how you work it all together because it all
is one big because you know, I'm sure there'll be
people to go, oh, you know he asked you before
he got the big contract because he gonna have to
give you that big, big, big ring or There'll be
something like, well, are you going to sign a prenup?
And just you know, she's a volleyball player, she actually
(16:52):
works out here, like there's no negatives there, but just
this is the reality of any sort of conversation when
you throw in uh, seven eight figures, right, eight figures.
I just think it's we you know, it's just interesting,
(17:13):
all right. I don't to answer the question. I do
think you have to have the conversation. From my perspective,
you have to have the conversation. I think what you
do is you let the initial you know, like I
think they're traveling somewhere, look like that looked like a
foreign country. That looked like Italy or something. I don't
know where that is, did not look like Green Bay.
(17:36):
So they're traveling, You have the trip. You make sure
she has the ring. At some point when you start
to get to the details of it, that's when you go, like,
we just we have to talk like future estate planning.
I think you wrap it in a state planning, don't you.
You don't just lead with the prenup. You go, hey,
let's do some like estate planning, some future stuff, you know,
(18:00):
just make maybe make sure we get everything or do
you just go like we gotta do prenup? What would
your stout Dan? If you're if you're coming into a
contract worth over a hundred million dollars and you could
go back with Lisa who was before with you before
you're worth a hundred million dollars. When people questioned you,
how would you handle it?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, I would position it in a way where it's
best for both parties. That's what I would say, Like,
this is you know, this is best for for all
of us, this is best for the family. Let's let's
let's do it this. If you were trying to trying
to get a prenup, That's how I positioned it. If
I was Jordan love or you.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Got probably best for her.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I don't know. I'm not sure just but but it
could just help better.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I love it. I'm like I'm sitting here taking notes
like this genius. But then I'm thinking myself, like, how's
it better for me if if you leave and I
only get a set amount of money? Oh, these are
first world problems. We'd all like to have one hundred
and fifty million dollars coming our way or two hundred
fifty million dollars coming our way so that we could decide.
(19:07):
I just I think what I would do. I think
what I would do would be I would say like, hey, mabe, listen,
we got it, like we're gonna get and you probably
can put this thing off. I mean, unless you're like
speed dating and trying to get married here you know,
next summer. But even if it's gonna be like next summer,
(19:27):
you know, you wait a little bit and then once
you get to the planning thing, you let somebody else
kind of handle it, and you don't, you know, we
just go like, hey, let's do some mistake planning. Let's
figure some of this stuff out long term, right, this
is long term. But I just don't know. If you
mentioned the word prenop what again, I've never I've only
(19:51):
been married once. I had no money when I got married,
so it wasn't an issue. So I never felt like, hey,
this is half my stuff. But that's a different scenario there.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's I I mean, if it was my, if it
was me, if you're asking if it was me and
my yeah, I'd probably just not mention it and chicken
out and just not have one, not have one. I
mean no, if you're ask if it was me. Yeah,
like I just yeah, but then again, I'm not in
the in the type of money that Jordan.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Like, I know, it's really hard, Like that's a hard conversation,
but it is one you kind of got to have.
Like when you guys got married, did you talk about religion?
Speaker 2 (20:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Oh? Do you talk about how many kids you want
to have? No?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
That?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I mean no, this is the part where we just
stop asking Dan questions. I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I love your honesty.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I just don't like to get Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Again you don't like to get too person in my bed, Okay,
I just it's just again that's one I'm problem with you.
I don't like having those uncomfortable conversations either. But I
think this is one where you go like, yeah, you
gotta have one, gotta have that one.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It does come with the territory of that yes, yes,
like that, like it's she shouldn't be offended by it,
like it's.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I mean, I think it's all in the presentation.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Sure, I think you can frame it in a way
where you say, like it's kind of procedural and it
kind of just comes with you know, this amount of money,
like yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
But you can't you can't match there's definitely going to
be some negative emotion there, and you can't be like
just super matter of fact and act like it's nothing
right right because you're going. And again you can't do
it now because you're going right now. It's the fairytale wedding.
Do whatever you want, plan whatever you want. This is amazing.
(21:50):
We're gonna stay together forever, and let's hope they do.
They very meant, well made. But you know, part of
the lawyer thing is they gotta, as Dan said, kind
of protect both parties. So you can't write it in
there to where there's an amount where she's going to
be super comfortable. You know, let's get to this. Julian Edelman,
(22:12):
who I frankly love as a broadcaster. He brings a
different look and an honesty and a real world experience.
Jill Leivan was on the Hurd earlier today. He said
this about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I'm a big Aaron Rodgers fan, but if I was
in that locker room and Aaron Rodgers wasn't there for
three days on the mandatory mini.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Camps, having played four snaps last.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Year, having played four snaps off of an injury, when
we have two new receivers. We got a bunch of
new linemen that we added to the team with a
CBA that doesn't allow us to practice a lot. I
guarantee there's four or five guys, six, seven, eight, nine
guys in that locker room sitting there like where's he
at now? If they start four and O, no one's
going to care, that's right, But this is the NFL.
(22:55):
I think it's a bad look for your leader, for
whatever reason, to go and miss an unexcused absence. I
mean I was with Tom Brady in his twentieth fifth
year or twenty third year, and he started he started
missing OTAs here and there, but he was still there
and never missed a mandatory mini camp. And you know,
I just thought it was a bad look.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Completely agree. And then when you factor in the jexaposition
of last year when he wanted to do everything, and
then this year when he's back to doing Aaron Rodgers stuff.
And we've said this before, and I say this to
my team. You can say you want to win, but
if you want to win, you got to be there.
(23:34):
You got to establish and build these relationships, you got
to work every day to get better. All of those things,
all of them Stut Gottlieb Show. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
So I guess the question becomes like, that's the that's
the standard. But now the Jets have allowed, you know,
(23:54):
you allowed Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron Rodgers kind of duped him.
Last year was so good, and then oh oh, let's
extend the contract, Let's do it for more than a year,
let's stay here as much as possible. And now he's
back to being Aaron Rodgers flighty, a no show, and
I'm sure he can perform fine. The question is everybody else.
(24:16):
You know, Aaron is somebody who holds everyone else to
a remarkably high standard of work, ethic and intensity. That's great,
but how can you do that when you're not there?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, I heard Doug some people justifying, like, what's
the big deal? You know, if he goes out and
he throws three touchdowns, you know, opening night against the
forty nine ers, nobody's going to care about a mandatory
mini camp. But that is it is such a false
argument because him not showing up maybe the reason why
he doesn't throw three touchdowns on opening night at mini
(24:52):
camp or you know, on opening out of the season,
because he missed Mini camp, like any sort of failure
from Aaron Rodgers this season for him, now you can
just point to you can always look back and say, well,
listen that it's not the unfamiliarity with the surroundings because
(25:13):
he had the ability to become familiar with those, even
if it was for just three days in June.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You're completely right, You're completely right, you know, because what
happens is if it all goes right, then yeah, everybody forget.
Everybody forgets. But on the one route where there's a
miscommunication on the one time when there's pressure and he's
given a hand signal and somebody doesn't know the hand
(25:40):
signal on the one time which there's a limit to
the playbook because he doesn't know it like the back
of his hand or somebody else hasn't done that with
him on that one time, that's what's on him. And like,
what's the point If you want to not work right now,
don't be a quarterback right now? This is this is Yeah,
(26:04):
you have enough money, You've won a super Bowl, you
made hundreds of millions of dollars, you've been a multi
time MVP. Like, if you don't want to do this,
don't do it. But if you want to do it,
why wouldn't you do it right? But the biggest thing
is Aaron Rodgers has always always been demonstrative in you know,
pointing out when his teammates aren't aren't doing the right
(26:25):
thing on the field, aren't in the right place, and
his by language will get bad. Nobody can do that
with Aaron. You hold your leader to at least the
standard that he holds everyone else to, if not a
higher standard. So yeah, when if you get former players
like a Julian and I'm going to say it's a
bad look, that means it's a horrible look.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And you know the funny thing is you talk about
standards as well, Doug. I would argue that for any
player in the position to captivate and grab the city
of New York, the bar is at the absolute lowest
right now for Aaron Rodgers to reach that sort of
idle level, just because the Jets have been so bad
(27:07):
in just terms of turning them around, giving them an
exciting season, beating teams maybe that they haven't beaten before,
haven't beaten in a while, and to be able to
do that sort of thing in that city where it
takes a long time to build up a lot of
equity like that is, I mean, it is, it is
(27:28):
right there for him. He probably would have to do
less than any other New York legend with just one
really good season in New York, and he would be
thought of as great because that's all. That's all that
they want. The bar is so low to have success
for the Jets. If you're a nick a Giant, a Yankee,
a met you know, to be able to reach the
(27:48):
level of idle status in that city for what you
actually have to accomplish, Yeah, there's no shorter or quicker
road than what Aaron Rodgers has. And for him to
already be taking shortcuts or not, I mean, that's it's
crazy to think.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I think it's I think it's absolutely crazy. And I
know you have been I don't want to say anti
Aaron Rodgers, but you have called Aaron Rodgers BS a
lot more than I have. And I'm completely on board
with you on this one completely. I just like, what
are we doing here? You know, it's it's and and
Brady is the example. Brady played into his forties and
(28:24):
he you know, remember during COVID he was organizing workouts
they weren't supposed to have he he it was a
job and he was willing to show up and do it.
And I think the thing about Aaron Rodgers. I understand
you want to have a life, You want to do
all these other things. You know, you want to lock
in for football when it's time to lock in for
football in your mind. Okay, But if you're to this
(28:44):
point now where you're playing because you want to, not
because you need to. If you don't want to do
the little things and the extra practices and the extra
work that everybody else is doing, well, then you don't
actually want to be playing football. What are you doing?
You're just stealing money. Thanks for listening to The Dog
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(29:07):
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I love these stories. You got a little love it
hate from the Weekend. Kenny Atkinson, the New Calves head
coach got to get to that next hour. Rick Buker's
gonna join us next hour as well. Before we get
tell all that, though, let's get you to Dan Bayer
(29:28):
and play a game.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. You know,
Doug not to not to dwell on Aaron Rodgers, but
one other thing popped up in my mind as we
were talking about him not attending mini camp. There's gonna
be some point in training camp where he's gonna want
a veteran off day, right, I think those are those
(29:53):
are those are normal? Sure, and it would be much
more normal if you showed up to mandatory mini camp.
But now when he's going to miss a day of camp,
you're gonna say, what Rogers is missing again? Oh, it's
a normal vet day. Yeah, Well he didn't show up,
but he was supposed to show up last month. Like
it just all becomes an issue and talking about the
greatness of the how low the bar is set in
(30:14):
New York. Now you've got off on this foot with
the media, you know this time around, how friendly are
they going to be? Probably not so much? All right?
End of Aaron Rodgers discussion.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
No, you bring up a great point. There's no equity
at all, Like any equity had totally cashed in. Now
it's now it's Aaron being about Aaron, and I agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Go ahead, all right. The game today is big deal,
little deal, nod all right, big deal, a little deal
of no deal, Doug. That the Lakers want to surround
JJ Reddick with a veteran staff. Veteran staff, that's a
big deal.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's a big deal. Your staff is everything and coaching,
and they have to they have to fill in the
holes that that you're missing. That's really it. So I
mean to kind of tell what's gonna happen. He's gonna
have what you call an old head on staff, somebody
has been through all the wars. Probably guy's been a
head coach, you know. Then we'll have two bright front
(31:17):
of the bench assistants and then they'll just try and
load up the rest of that. You know, you can
have kind of as many assistants as you want behind
the bench. So the question for the Lakers is, and
I think you know, they showed their hand with Danny Hurley,
like if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it right.
You gave him I think a four year contract. You know,
you save some money not getting Danny, so I get
(31:38):
to spend some money on a better staff for JJO.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'll also say this, Doug, because you've talked about this
a lot since you took the green Bay job. And
hire people that know the things that you don't know
in your situation. I can understand why Green Bay would
want to dive into the Doug Gottlieb treasure chest, and
then you fill it out as you may. But my
whole thing with Reddick is is like, if you're going
(32:01):
outside of the box and then you surround him with
veteran assistants, it sounds good on the surface, but then
what's the point of JJ Redick? Like, what is what
is his reason of being there in terms of.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
What does he bring?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, Like, I think it's a lot more easier to
explain what you bring to Green Bay than what JJ
Reddick is going to bring to the Lakers. If he's
surrounded by you know, other veteran coaches in the NBA
that have been there before. I just I want to
know then, what is different than why not have one
of those guys just end up coaching?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Well?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I think I think that two things would be the sale.
One would be the relationship with current players and respect
that he gets. Right, you're not going to win an
NBA title unless they respect you. A lot of times
they don't respect you unless you've won an NBA title.
You've played, you know, a long time in the NBA.
So it's a bit of a catch twenty two sure,
but I think that's part of it, all right, and
(32:55):
we know you're not going to win there unless you
got the respect Lebron James. The second part is I
do think that he has a great vantage point for
what good offense is and you know, how to play.
I think there's a high basketball IQ you there, especially
with what you'd call, you know, he he spanned both generations,
which is, you know, you go back to when Lebron
(33:17):
was first a star and it was a little bit
more ISO friendly, whereas now there's a lot more ball
movement and a lot more what's it called matchup chasing,
mismatch chasing. So I do think there's a basketbay Q there.
But I think the number one thing he brings is
the respecting can garner within the locker room and the
(33:38):
fact that he's much more of an analytical, prepared thinker,
whereas Darvinham was a lot more of the just hey,
let's just go out there and play hard and be
tougher than the other team.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Big deal, little deal or no deal that Kenny Atkinson
is the new head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I think that's a little deal. It's hard to tell
here because Kenny Atkinson has previously been a head coach
with three Have Project right in Brooklyn, and then you
know he was a a lad assistant with the Golden
State Warriors. So the question becomes, are they gonna scrap
(34:21):
it and start over? I don't think so. His system
that he likes to run is one that's beneficial for
the group, not necessarily for individuals. Does that work with
Donovan Mitchell? My guess is this is one that Donovan
Mitchell signed off on, and the question is can Donovan
Mitchell adjust his own game to playing that way? But
I think it's a little deal because it's not a
huge name coach and it's probably not one that upsets
(34:45):
much of the applecart there.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
All right, A big deal, little deal or no deal
that Mets closer Edwin Diaz was tossed for having an
illegal substance on his pitching hand. Unless that's what over
the Cubs.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think it's a big deal. Like you didn't know
they're gonna check your hand, right, Yes, you didn't know.
I've been to three baseball games this year, and every inning,
in every game, they check guy's hands. I don't you know.
It's like the guy who gets who gets arrested because
(35:17):
he had a gun in his bag. Oh are you
checking those? Like, yeah, we're checking the backs.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Uh, the close up as well of the hand that
just I mean it is it just caked in it? Yeah?
They look like there's there may be some callouses here
and there, which we all get. But I love a
good scandal in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I love it too, you know, I totally love it.
But I just think that's one where it's like, really,
that's what you tried to get away with.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Oh, great stuff from the MLB last night. Met's have
been providing a lot of headlines for us, all right,
big deal, little deal, or no deal. That the Sky
defeated the Fever as Angel Reese had a career high
twenty five points and added sixteen rebounds in the win. Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I think that was a big deal. I do, because
you know, Angel Reaes has this double double streak going.
But more than anything, like, look, she's a different player.
She's more kind of classic power forward, obviously not terribly skilled.
But the bigger thing was they won. You know, they
talked all that junk and been super physical and tried
to be tough against the Fever previously, and the Fever
even when they weren't playing well. The one team they
(36:24):
could beat with Chicago, and now the Fever are playing
better and Chicago beats them. I think that was a
big deal. It's a big win for.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Them, coming off of a game where she also had
eighteen rebounds in the contest prior. All right, big deal,
little deal of no deal that Kate and Clark said
it would be quote a lot of fun end quote
to play with Angel Reaes in the WNBA All Star
Game if both are chosen.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I just I think it's a little deal or no
deal at all. She always says the right thing. Has
she ever said anything that it was any way divisive?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
No, It's like she studied every pr thing for how
does the art of saying very very little? She says
just enough to be really engaged in really likable and
not enough to get anybody truly upset if you actually
listen to it. All right, pr one on one, Yeah,
final one.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Doug big deal, little dealer, no no deal, that old
miss football his debut a road white uniform with white
helmet and powder blue print. Now they've used the powder
blues before, but this is the first time that they're
actually going to have a road uniform with the powder blue.
I did retweet it with the caption ooh la la
on the quote retweet if you want to take a
(37:31):
look at it, but you know, obviously.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Looking at I'm looking at it right now on their page.
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, it's really sharp.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That is really good. That is really really good.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Look good, play good.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, and they've been playing good of late as well.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
How are the uniforms coming with the Phoenix season? Like,
do you good?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Pretty good? Okay, pretty good? We have one special one
that we're we're having designed. I got a big hand
in the other two being designed, and I think I
think people like them.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Do you have a city connect that like honors the
Packers in Bay Beach at all?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's that's part of the special one that I'm allowing
somebody else's designing that uniform.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Okay, all right, then you're like, I'll.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Tell you off air and you'll I think you'll like
it a lot more than the idea. You kind of okay,
whatever you're doing there, this one I think you'll like.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
All right, Okay, and that's game time.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Had a great sunset over Lake, Michigan and Green Bay
last night. I do know what your weekend was like,
and it's hot in southern California wherever you have been.
I hope you, hope you had a good weekend. Couse,
we got another one. Then we got fourth July coming up.
We've got the NBA Draft coming up this week. We
do have a lot to get to, uh coming up next.
(38:55):
Speaking of weekends, the best of the weekend, the worst
of the weekend? What have we do? Love? What do
we hate? What did you love? What did you hate?
It's all part of love and hate of the weekend.
It's upcoming next. It's a stable on a Monday. You're
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