January 24, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug reacts to the breaking news that the Raiders are hiring 73-year old Pete Carroll as their next head coach. Doug weighs in on the strange Liam Coen ordeal this week in Florida. Doug welcomes former Bucs GM Mark Dominik onto the show to talk about the Coen situation, Pete Carroll and the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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of the day. The story of the day is that
the Raiders have decided to hire Pete Carroll, seventy three
year old Pete Carroll. I think this makes a whole
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hell of a lot of sense from two perspectives. It's
like the most raider move ever is the first thing
I'll tell you why say it is. And secondly, it's
the classic you hired a guy previously with little experience
or no experience, so you hire the most experienced guy
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who's sitting there out on the market. Right. And I'm
not sure how many people know, but Al Davis was
a Syracuse guy, part of the Syracuse mop if you will.
But he also had really close ties with USC. He
was the offensive line coach at USC for two years
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and that was always part of part of kind of
who he was was his time at USC. It's one
of the reasons he hired Lane Kiffin. So I think
some of this makes complete sense. From the ay, you
hired a guy last time in Antonio Pierce who had
no experience. You hire a guy now who's got wealth
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of experience. He's got the USC connection, he's won a
Super Bowl, he's worked with young quarterbacks. It's like check, chack, chack,
check check. He's seventy three years old. Oh boy, oh boy.
But then again, it does come down to does he
have the energy? Sure? Has he done it before? Yes?
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Is he motivated to it again? Yes? Who are you
going to hire to come with you as your coaches?
And then who can you get in the draft? And
what a reasonable expectations. But I'll tell you what's interesting,
I don't know how many people how many people realize
this now, Jim Harbaugh is the only coach in that
division who hasn't won a Super Bowl. I doesn't want
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a super Bowl. And I think we all think and
he's won national championship, we all think, all think that
that Jim Harbaugh is going to get close or is
a high level coach. But the point is that some
of it is you look around at everybody else's like, man,
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are we really going to get another unproven guy?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Are we going to get a guy that's won a
super Bowl? Yes? Has he dealt with young quarterbacks? Yes?
You know, as he built around and and and Russell
Wilson's whole thing was, you know, he was always so
conservative with his offensive game planning. But that worked, It worked.
I don't know if they can you know, if they
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can crack that code of the draft that they were
able to crack when they were in Seattle and build
a legion of boom. I don't know if the popping
around and chewing gum like you're eighteen still works, but
I think this has a better chance to work. A
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more likely scenario if he's surrounding himself with young, energetic
coaches and then they just have to get the quarterback
position right. But I actually fully understand the Raiders being
the Raiders. Hire a former USC guy, hire a retread,
do the opposite of what you did before, but also
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somebody who's worked with young quarterbacks in the past. That's
it's my feeling of it. It's my feeling of it. Fire.
What do you think, Bud.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I think that the Raiders go into this division shorthanded
and Pete Carroll gives them the best opportunity unity to compete.
And I know that is his mantra and it fits
perfectly with his name. But he can go toe to
toe with these guys, even if he doesn't have all
the dogs or the better players. He's shown that he
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can build that culture, build that team, and they will
compete in that division. And I wonder if you went
the opposite route. So Doug of Antonio Pierce was such
a unique situation. I don't even call him a route.
Then it's not meant to disrespect him. It's just kind
of caught lightning in a bottle during his interim head
coaching term, and then let's just give it to him
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full time. If you were to bring in a young assistant,
actually they it'd be difficult in that division with those
three guys for a little while, and it actually brings stability.
So a lot of what you're saying I agree with.
I know it's going to be easy to pick on
and easy to poke holes, and I've got my own
jokes as well, but it probably is the best thing
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for the Raiders at this time to try to to
try to develop some sort of culture or something in
that building because it's been anything, but it's been such
in flux over these last few years. You haven't had
any consistency. Maybe Pete Carroll can do that over the
next four or five years.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think I just I don't
think it's crazy. I don't think it's crazy, and it's
going to be really interesting to see what they do
in regarse to the quarterback position. I think, you know,
he is one of those guys that does have great
positive energy, great positive energy.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Russell Wilson's name has already been connected well.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
As far as quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I don't think that happens. I mean, and we
all like well motivated Russell Wilson, like, hmmm, I get that,
it's indoors. I get this Pete Carroll that they've worked
together before, and Pete had his back, But I'm and
it was basically it felt like in Seattle Russell said
me or him, and they're like, we're going to take him.
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And what has Russell Wilson done since that would lead
you to believe that next year, a year older, he
can be he's willing to even be a mentor quarterback.
Mentor quarterback Sam Darld might make sense, but I think
they draft somebody and they build that way. They build
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the same way they built in Seattle. Draft somebody, run
the football, play conservatively and see if he grows into
being a quarterback. That's got to be the same.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Plan for Carol. It's a three year deal Doug with
an option for a fourth, according to the reports.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So this is just to stabilize it for a couple
of years, and my guess is whoever he hires, probably
his offensive coordinator, becomes their guy. Who's the heir apparent,
who's gonna you know, if he if they fix the
quarterback position, that's the guy who would take over win Carol.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Retires, I also think be directly, but dan Quinn's success
this season I think also helps things, considering that he
was Carroll's defensive coordinator with the Seahawks when they went
to the Super Bowls. Obviously, Quinn's success with the Falcons
was something, but you'd have to think that there are
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some parallels to what Pete Carroll does and to what
dan Quinn does and could also help the Raiders in
that way. I don't think it's an overwhelming thing, but
I don't think it hurt either.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you.
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Speaker 2 (08:43):
Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Design. Yeah. Earlier in
the week, the tay Bay Buccaneers got great news is offense.
Regarding their offense, Cordeer Liam Cohen he'd pulled his name
out of the running for the Jacksonville Jaguars head coaching vacancy.
Then within twenty four hours, the Buccaneers had limited contact
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with Cohen, who remain unsigned, for he accepted the job
become the jaguars new head coach. Fans and the Buccaneers
front office were upset Cohen was going to return to
the club next season as one of the highest paid
offensive courtaters in NFL history. Instead, Trent Bulkey was fired
and Cohen will be coaching the Jaguars as the headman
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following one season with the Buccaneers. Cohen wrote this in
a statement, Becoming the coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars the
opportunity of a lifetime and one that I'm going to
run with to instill a championship culture and winning tradition
here in Duval duvall Is, the county that Jacksonville is in.
This doesn't happen without the sport and opportunities that my
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family and I have been afforded throughout my career, especially
this past season in Tampa. We want to thank Todd
Bowles for his continued support in his entire Buccaneers organization.
For the experience as they and know they will have
excess ahead. So it gets weirder because apparently Cohen didn't
come in to sign his contract because he said he
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had a sick child. Sick child, and then without contacting
the Buccaneers like, yeah, I'm gonna take that Jaguars job.
Now you have every right to take the job. And
it's completely okay that either you didn't want to take
it because Trent Balkey was the GM, or Trent Bualke
didn't want to hire you, and then when they got
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rid of Trent Balke, you became the prime candidate to
get the job. These things are okay, But that's uh
what's it called bad t Is that bad tea? Like,
that's not how you do.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
It, Isn't that the It's an excuse that can never
be uh questioned. If you've got a sick kid, of
course you're not going to be here.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know, take all the time you need.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I use this site. I say this all the time
when your buddy uses the excuse last second that the
babysitter are canceled. Nobody's disputing that that's a horrible position
to be in. Of course you're not going to be
here if the problem is when that same buddy does
it again or does it even a third time, and then,
oh so he's full of crap and he's going to
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a go to excuse that everyone uses because it can't
be questioned.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, I just go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Did you see the state of the tweets that his
wife put out? No, so, Ashley Cohen tweeted, I hate
that I even have to say this, but when people
are negative about my kids, it will not be silent.
Our son is sick. We were at the hospital yesterday
seeing a specialist for his autoimmune disease. Please don't spread
misinformation and assume you heard one side.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So he is kid was sick, and he ghosted the
team and he took the Jaguars chop.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Possibly maybe he wasn't at the hospital, but his wife
is saying that they were at the hospital for their
sixth son.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Listen, I believe he's at the hospital. I believe he
got the head coach job. I believe that all these
things that we think happened again, we just don't know
if it was Bulky didn't want to hire him and
then they got rid of Bulky, or he didn't want
to work for Bulky. That's what happened with Byron Leftwich
was that two years ago, I think two years ago,
he was up for the head coaching job in Jacksonville
and he's like, I don't want to you know, he
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made it very clear, I'm not taking that job unless
I bring in my own GM. So again, I don't
know what happened in regards to Trent Balky. I do
know that, as we all know, that change at the
top of their front office directly coincides with Cohen now
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being the head coach. I'm willing to believe he did
have a sick kid, but like, dude, call your boss,
call your boss, call your boss, because you know, you
know who actually has been a coordinator and been up
for jobs and taking a job before that would be
Todd Bowles. Have been him twice, all right, He's theres
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on the Cardinals. They took the Jets job. Okay, then
he was the decordinator for the Buccaneers that he got
promoted when Bruce arians retired. So yeah, I just I'm
sorry that their kid is sick and he has an
autoimmune disease that he's in the hospital. I'm willing to
believe your kid is sick. These two things can be true.
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Your kid can be sick, and you're wrong for not
calling your boss.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Can I ask something of both of you that I
think half of our listeners are asking right now. Okay,
who the hell is Liam Cuhen? Because if you're a
guy that's making these kinds of power moves, if you're
leveraging one job to could be the highest paid player
coach at another job and then retro and then retroactively
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they fired the GM and then you take the job
like you have to be somebody who's very well established.
Is he that good? Like? Who the hell is this guy?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
You'd spend some time with Sean McVay and the Rams
also spent time at the University of Kentucky. I think
Baker Mayfield's play, the success of what Dave Canalis did
in the second half of the year in Carolina, I
think helps things. I think all of that probably plays
into it. But to your point, I get what you're
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saying is you would think that maybe there would be
more fervor over someone that had a bigger, more popular
name like Ben Johnson. We've talked about for three years,
and Liam Cohen has just been recently. I will also
say this, If this is the case, this would be
the one hundred millionth time that being sick to go
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to work for another job interview have occurred in life.
How many times do people say, can't make it into
that they got doctor's appointment, are interviewing somewhere else. We
feel like we're so violated because of this, or feel
that he's using his child as a pawn when it's
been happening since the beginning of time.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna take this call.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Sorry, but I got to step out for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Tommy, Tommy Tupperville is the worst, right, Tommy Tupbraville. When
he left was it Texas Tech for Ole miss Is
that right? Check my work on that one. Dan. He
was at a recruiting dinner, Okay, he had recruits in
town in Lubbock, and he's like, yeah, I gotta take
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this phone call, and then he got in his car
left and then I went to the airport and never
never came back. That's the worst. And by the way,
Tommy Tepperville, who now represents his constituent and see, is
just that's who he is. Okay, that's an all timer.
It's an all timer.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
There is all timer there was it was? Was it
the old miss in Auburn? Gig?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Was that it? No? I thought he was? Was he
at Tech?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
He was after old Miss? He went from Tech to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay, so it's Texas Cinati. So it's when he left
Tech to go to Cincinnati. I think maybe it's maybe, yeah,
I don't think it's when he left. I think it's
when he Yeah, he left uh Tech for Cincy, and
uh he took a phone call and there was recruits there, right, yeah, yeah,
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Tommy Tepperville, he did Texas Tech recruits at at dinner
to take the Cincinnati job. Isn't that crazy? Like recruits
group recruits at the fifty yard line restaurant during their
fish of is it? He's like, ah, I gotta take
a phone call and then never came back. He did
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the did we determine is it the Iris exit or
Tian exit? Which one is it?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I thought it was the Irish.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
The Italian exit is oh wait, you're right, Irish is
leaving without telling anybody.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
The Italian was where you kiss everybody goodbye and say
goodbye to everybody, takes an hour fought. Yeah, yeah, and
the dining ditch is what he did. Also, you know
a little little dining ditch.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I don't think he dined in ditch. I think it
was still covered.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
You know he did ditch though, Yeah he dined a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Oh man, what a what a day? What a lot
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So the story that we kind of took people through
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is had a great year obviously with Baker talks with
the Jacksonville Jaguars and then pulls himself out of the
Jaguars head coaching running and then tells Todd Bowles, hey,
not coming into work, my kid is sick. And then
turns around and after Trent Balky is fired, he takes
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the Jaguars shop. First thing is this was Trent Balky
fired because he didn't want to hire Cohen? Or was
he fired because Cohen didn't want to work with him?
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Yeah, it's a great way to look at it, and
I'm sure Sean Khan was frustrated with the entire situation there.
My gut is at the end, Liam Cohen's agent said, look,
that's not who he wants to work with, and you know,
it's just not going to be a good fit. And
I think Jacksville was like, wait a second, this is
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going to look bad for us. We've got to figure
out who's their coaches football team. And I think it's
one of those like what we saw in the random
world of like Sean Watson with the Cleveland Browns, suddenly
Cleveland comes back and goes, wait a second, we can
change this. Love the Cleveland Browns. So I think that's
what happened to here in Jacksonville, like, wait, we're going
to change this. We'll bring in the GM that will
work along beside you instead of GM that's here, and
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voil you got your new head coach in Jacksonville, Liam Coleen,
who I still don't know if he called the Buccaneers
back yet.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, And then in regards to how he's handled it,
by the way, Byron Leftwich, the same thing happened two
years ago, right what Byron Leftwich said, like, I don't
want to take the Jacksonville job unless if Trent Bulki's there.
So I'm sure there's some kind of dejavou all over
again for Shad Cohn. Okay, so what about the not calling?
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How is it supposed to work? How does it really
really work? Because I told people yesterday one of the
things I told people yesterday, and I don't know in
the NFL how it works. But there was this it
was mostly Twitter conversation about the fact that Bill Belichick
hadn't signed his contract in North Carolina, and people don't
realize that. What happens in college is you sign a
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memo of understanding and you start working and then they
work through, especially at a state school, they work through
all the details of the contract. It has to go
through everything. If you work for the state, has to
go through all the same stuff that any professor does,
you know, all this different background checks, whatever, and then
they come to you with the actual package, which should
mirror the memo of understanding. Sometimes is the no negotiation
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that takes place. So that was actually totally normal. How
does it normally work with a coordinator taking a job
with another team?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean I don't think it's that far off
from what you're saying. You know, it's it's number one.
The agent's doing his job right. The agent is looking
out for his client, which is the coach, and trying
to find stability, but also understanding that it's the National
Football League. It's hard to find stability. So the agent
sitting there going, I don't think I can go back
to Jackville, but I have some leverage right now to
be able to see if I can get this thing
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through in terms of getting my my coach. You know,
a really good raise and a really good situation. They're
in Tampa, and so we took advantage of it. And
you know, does that come back and haunt you or
I think that it's not ideal but trying to be
all these guys goals are to be a head coach
in the NFL. Totally get that, And so if you
can't imagine that's the possibility, then you're kind of mistaken
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in terms of the way you look at the situation.
So I don't sit there and fault the agent and say,
what was he doing? Why would you do this to
the club? I sit there and say they took advantage
of the leverage they had, and then they played it
into being the new head coach. I don't think there's
hard feelings in Tampa. I think they're probably disappointment, but
they all know that. You know, Liam was going to
be head coached maybe one year sooner, one year later,
and I think for Liam, strike while the iron's hot.
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You know, you just never know from year to year.
I mean, Bobby Sloke just got fired and that was
a surprise to me considering how hot his name was
just one year ago.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Steug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Your reaction
to Pete Carroll being the new head coach of the
Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Surprise, you know, And this is you know, you're supposed
to hire the best quality candidate you can find, right
and it shouldn't matter age, and you shouldn't let those
signs into it. But you know, if you're the Raiders
and you're trying to find stability, you might have found
some stability for a little bit here, But the reality
is is he going to coach for five years or
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six years or Candy coach that long? I don't know,
And that would be my concern, is that I'm trying
to find a coach that can be here for a while,
not just for a little bit, and you know, will
how long Candy coach? Does he want to coach and
will he coach? It's concerning. I feel like it's just
kind of a desperate hire to cincerns say we've done
something and people will like this. I don't think it's
I feel like it's not the best hire and have
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nothing against Coach Carroll, and I feel like there's a
better decision to be made out there within this organization,
and I think they just kind of were getting worried
about being embarrassed and went with the easy choice I
think is what it would be, instead of taking the
time and really digging through this process because that would
be two years in a row.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Now.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I feel like with Coach Pearson now Coach Carroll, I
don't think they've dug the way you could dig into
who's the right fit for the culture of you're building in,
what's the plan of attack with the quarterback positions.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Mark Dominic, former general manager Camp Bay Buccaneers,
of course, worked for over twenty years in NFL front offices. Oh, okay,
give me your sense of Dallas.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Yeah again, I think we talked about last week. I
really never felt like Dian was going to be the
head coach of the Cowboys because I don't think Dian
wants to coach against the Sun in the Nation Football League.
I think he only wants to be a head coach
in the NFL if he can coach to doer and
obviously Dallas isn't going to do that. So I never
thought Dion was really in play. And it seems like
that's coming together that way in terms of you know,
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continuity and understanding and the same old, same old. You know,
this is not a huge surprise where we're sitting here
today with looking at the Cowboys saying, you know, maybe
solid in it. But it certainly feels like this is
Schottenheimer's opportunity. And it turns around and it says, you know, again,
we don't have to completely change the Apple carts and
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maybe it's a different voice at the podium. Zimmer can
still stay on the defensive side, and we can Kumbayavis
to you know, hopefully getting the team back together again.
It's a weird hire. I mean, I love coach Shotti.
I've known Brian since, you know, start with his you know,
I had a chance to work with his dad when
I first got in the league and known Brian for
a long time. I'm happy for him. It just seems
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like I thought there would be a bigger plan in
play for Dallas where something didn't go the way they
thought it was going to go, and they got caught
a little bit here instead of just figuring out how
to give Big Mac Mike Mack back in under a
under a contract.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh Mark
Dominic is our our guest, of course's former gentle manager
of the of the of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay,
so so far in this cycle, who's done the best
job from your perspective?
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Well, I mean I got this. I mean it's tough
to say. You know, the Jets of Aaron Glenn seemed
really like a good fit. I think they've been thinking
Aaron Glenn for a long time. I think they were
just interviewing people just to gather information, but not really
give them a real shot at being the head coach.
That's what I really think happened to the Jets, which
is fine. You can do that, and there's nothing wrong
against that. You're just trying to get an overall sense of,
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you know, the different things out there, whether it's seeing
maybe that team's free agents, or how this person would attack,
fixing the Jets and things like that. But I think
Aaron was going to be the guys. It's hard enough
to look at Ben Johnson goes, look if he can
get that system going with Caleb Williams and the Bears.
How important it is, especially in this division where it
feels like, you know, you're the fourth team trying to
figure out how to get back on and into this
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playoff punt of the NFC North, which looks to be
a very big gauntlet every year. I got to think
you have to feel pretty good about that. If your
Bears fans waking up, going, we just want to get
an offense. Let's let's build an offense. Let's go I know,
defenses in the blood and in the culture of the
Chicago people. But I got to say that, you know,
not to the surprise, but the two coordinators, obviously out
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of Detroit, both have good fit. My only concern about
the Jets is what is Aaron's you know, thought process
of how to fix the quarterback position. That will be
very interesting to see what he ends up doing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Steut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, when
you watch the Ravens and turnovers end up becoming a
huge factor and why they lost. I mean, really, you know,
of the games like last Weekend three, the four, this
the real story was turnovers. But let's let's just start
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with with Ravens. Another year, another year of disappointment in
the playoffs. What would you do if you were Eric Tacosta.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Yeah, I mean I think I don't do anything. I
think I wish I had, you know, Zay Flowers within
the building. I think that they actually had a lot
of good things this year that came together. I mean,
if they beat the Buffalo, if they beat the Buffalo Bills,
but they beat themselves, right, Buffalo played the clean games
the Ravens did not. That's just the bottom line to
what your point is. But this team clearly was the
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scariest team I think in all of the playoffs. And
because they're out of it, it certainly changes, you know,
the way you look at it. But I wouldn't change anything.
I think when you look at this team. Roger Rosengarten's
a second round pick. The right tackle came in, looked
really good for the whole season, played well for them,
and it was really big. I mean, Nate Wiggins, I
think when you look at this football team, I don't
think you mess up with hardly anything. I think you
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kind of try to keep it together as much as
you can, realizing how good of the group this is.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And so.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
I think you're perfectly spot on. I don't think you
change anything about this team. I think you're never gonna
have the same fifty three one year to the next.
But I think you tinker, you don't collapse or dismantle
anything here.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
How difficult will it be for the Lions when you
lose both your coordinators?
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Well, you know it's always tough, right because you like continuity,
the same guys, everything like that, and you've been spoiled
for last year. But I'm sure Brad Holmes, the general
manager there certainly and ownership certainly are very aware that, look,
we could lose both these guys, and they probably thought
that's before the season started. So I'm sure that they
have absolutely worked on their list of like this is
our go to list of this is the go to
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people and this is how we're gonna this is how
we're going to deal with it. And I think I
think they're going to be in pretty good shape because
it had so much time to think about it. It wasn't like,
you know, halfway through the season, was there whispers that
Liam Combe could be a head coach in the NFL. Maybe,
but I'm sure they walked into season when we've got
this guy for a couple of years and we're good.
I think so you weren't preparing the same possible way.
I think that's different for we're in Detroit where it's like,
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obviously this was going to happen, and it did, and
therefore we'll just have to adjust and move accordingly. And
I think they'll be able to handle it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, Okay, Philadelphia this weekend welcomes in Washington. What's your
reaction to Dan Quinn and this team's ability behind a
rookie quarterback to accomplish what they've accomplished.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Just amazing. But you know, I think what's great about
it is, you know, Cliff Kingsbury is a name that
you know, I think it sounds like up this year
with the way these deals of these jobs are all
getting cleaned up. But I think next year you're going
to read Cliff's name in a lot of places, and
I think it's not just dan Quinn, but it's Cliff.
But it's also so much about the guy, right, It's
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so much Jade Daniels has earned what he's getting right
now in the National Football League and that's you got
to love that. You got to love that. You know
he's getting what he deserves by the work he's put
into it. And Cliff Kingsbury came out even back in
the summer and said, this guy works. And you sit
there and you listen to it, right, Doug, and you're like, well,
Cliff Kingsbury was in Arizona and we heard a lot
about Kyler Murton not working. So clearly he sees a
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really good trend here that he's excited about. And now
Jayden and Daniels did it and earned the locker room
quickly and has now earned his respect to the National
Football League across the board. A great season and still
a lot to look forward to in a team that
you know what, it feels good to root for him.
Are they as good as the Eagles? We'll see what
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Jalen Hurts can do, but I think that's injury to
Sam Cosmy is a big deal with Jalen Carter inside.
Whether Jalen Carter puts the motor down eighty ninety percent
or still runs it at fifty percent will be the
difference in this game.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I think Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio,
can you beat the Kansasity Chiefs in Canson? If you're Buffalo? Right?
This is like there were thirteen seconds away three years ago.
Is this the year it happens?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
I think it is.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Doug.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Before the season started, I had the Buffalo Bills going
to the Super Bowl, and I'm not changing my answer now.
I still feel like Buffalo is I think they got
through the scarier opponent. I think Kansas City is a
great football team. Look, it's where I started my career,
so it's never fun to kind of root against or
I think negatively towards Kansas City. I've got nothing but
fond thoughts about it. But I just think the Buffalo
Bills can score points because I think the difference is
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the legs of Josh Allen, the legs of James Cook
are going to be a big factor in this football game.
And I think that's going to be the piece of
the puzzle that's going to help them be good enough
to win this game this weekend. And you know, I'm
not an ABC guy. Anybody of a chiefs. I love
when you see somebody be able to be part of
deathty or take over destiny. They've done that. But I've
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got the Buffalo Bills winning this game because I think
they can. They can kind of calm down what I'd
say is the tight end room of the Kansy chief
If you can calm down the tight end room, that's
no agree too. It's not just Kelsey. You got to
stop them both or limit them. I think that's the
big difference, and I think they can do that.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Mark awesome stuff. Man, Enjoy the championship weekend, and we'll
talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Sound good, Enjoy it good.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
It's The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Something Pat
Mahomes said that I've been trying to say we should
do about Pat Mahomes. I want to talk about that.
Top of the hour plus we have Jared Smith. He'll
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give us our picks, his picks and we'll give you
our Pick's part of the Gambler. All part of the
Doug Gottlieb Show. Hey, welcome in Hope. You're having a
great Friday. Let's get to Dan Byer, who brings us
a game.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Hey, Dan, can we get a quick update? There was
that fire kind of close to your house. What's the update, Doug?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
The update is most everybody is back in place. We
were back home last night. Still smells like the ash
and smoke, but everybody is safe. Last night I saw
was that thirty six percent containment, which was pretty good.
Now up to fifty six percent as I just looked
at it right now. But the Hues fire, everything is
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a okay, no structures damaged and obviously no lives lost,
which was magnificent.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Is that named after Howard or Larry.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Hugheses a bucket? He's a bucket. What do you got?
What's the game today?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
The game today is I got DIBs.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
By the way, there was the Laguna fire which was
in cam Rio, just to confuse people. So that was
a crazy one. All right, We're gonna do a little
different little Championship weekend sort of theme. We throw out
the topic and we just take DIBs on favorite player.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Hey, just quick update. The President said that for now on,
every fire is going to be named the American Fire. Right,
American American fire to mess.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Uh, moving on, I got DIBs. Topic today is for
the Championship weekend. We are gonna grab our favorite players
from the four teams. But you just have to wait
till I announce the team before you can get in
your DIBs. Okay, first up, favorite all time player from
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Water Washington Commander's football team, even the Redskins, favorite all
time Washington football player.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It's easy.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Well, anybody get your DIBs in. John Riggins, Oh, you're
a Riggins guy.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I mean he was forty four, that was my number.
He was kind of a badass. He looked like he
should be on the A team. I don't know, like,
I yeah, I know he's I think he went super weird, right,
but uh yeah, John Riggins football player, he was like
a yeah like him and Mike Alstott like and Christian McCaffrey. Right,
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it's like the three best white running backs right. John
Riggins was tough. I like John Riggins.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I think he showed a lot of bravery and a
lot of like I don't care what people think, not
for anything he did on the field. But if you're
going to sport that perm, yeah, a guy sporting that perm, yeah,
but you forget to balls.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
No, that was a big coach. Sutton had a PERM
back then. He but he would call it when you
talk about the old days when he had the PERM,
he would actually call it a permanent. He's the only
human being I've ever stard because a permanent, A perm
is a permanent, but nobody called it a permanent other
than Nettie Sutton. So shout out to my late, late
great former coach.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I got dibbs on Sean Springs. He was so one
of my all time favorite buck Eys played for the Seahawks,
but then when the Seahawks days were over, ended up
going back home to d C and playing for Washington.
Give me Sean Springs.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I got DIBs on Sean Taylor blowing up that punter
in the Pro Bowl Game. He left us early, I
know it, but the Commanders have done something that I respect.
Their tribute to Sean Taylor. Whatever the hell that statue
was was roundly criticized, and they're actually going to reimagine
it and do something different, So good for them.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
All right, Sam, you got one and you want to
move on, I'll take I got DIBs on a former
Hawkeye with Dell bets Hell bat you might notice say
it here, all right, favorite all time Philadelphia Eagle. I
got DIBs on Randall Cunningham. I had a jersey, autographed
jersey of his. I was young, righty right, favorite Eagle.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I got DIBs on Brian Dawkins.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I like Brian Dawkins as well.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah, it's a good pick.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
I got DIBs on Ron Chaworski.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
That's a great pick.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I was gonna go with Cooper dejen He is a
finalist for the Ape Defensive Rookie of the Year, but
he hasn't been there for more than He's still a rookie,
so he will eventually. Okay, how are you measuring it?
He will, I guess eventually, be my Doug.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Do you have a pick?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
No, I I mean, if it was a player, would
be Darren Sproles. But remember I hate everything about the
Eagles everything, so I would never select a favorite Eagle.
All My favorite Eagles are the ones who left being
filled up Eagles. Secon One bar and Darren Sproles are
the only appropriate dancers. But I hate the Eagles all right.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
We only got time for one team. Favorite Buffalo Bill
of all time?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Oh, I got dibbl on Darryl Talley. Darryl Talley can
get after it.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Darryl Tally. I like that. Tally up the votes here.
I like Fred Jackson. I feel least the lost Buffalo
Bill went to co College.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yes, yes, Thurman Thomas. There is the therminator Thurman Thomas.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
And what school do you go to?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Oh? Good Lahoma State?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
That is game time.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I thought my answer was the best one for the Eagles.
It's just the honest one, all right. Talk about some
Cancay Chief football next. Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Tradio
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Do Do Do do So. It's Championship weekend, right we
will know who's in the super Bowl after this weekend.
Pretty fun time of year. Cannot wait to discuss it.
We will. Throughout the show, we'll give you our picks
as well. The boys are all alongside and we're ready
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to provide you the best radio show content that you
can get anywhere in America, getting you ready for the
games of the weekend and also telling you the stories
of the day. The story of the day is that
the Raiders have decided to hire Pete Carroll, seventy three
year old Pete Carroll. I think this makes a whole
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hell of a lot of sense from two perspectives. It's
like the most raider move ever is the first thing
I'll tell you why say it is. And secondly, it's
the classic you hired a guy previously with little experience
or no experience, so you hire the most experienced guy
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who's sitting there out on the market. Right. And I'm
not sure how many people know, but Al Davis was
a Syracuse guy, part of the Syracuse mop if you will.
But he also had really close ties with USC. He
was the offensive line coach at USC for two years
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and that was always part of part of kind of
who he was was his time at USC. It's one
of the reasons he hired Lane Kiffin. So I think
some of this makes complete sense. From the ay, you
hired a guy last time in Antonio Pierce who had
no experience. You hire a guy now who's got wealth
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of experience. He's got the USC connection, he's won a
Super Bowl, he's worked with young quarterbacks. It's like check, chack, chack,
check check. He's seventy three years old. Oh boy, oh boy.
But then again, it does come down to does he
have the energy? Sure? Has he done it before? Yes?
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Is he motivated to it again? Yes? Who are you
going to hire to come with you as your coaches?
And then who can you get in the draft? And
what a reasonable expectations. But I'll tell you what's interesting,
I don't know how many people how many people realize
this now, Jim Harbaugh is the only coach in that
division who hasn't won a Super Bowl. I doesn't want
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a super Bowl. And I think we all think and
he's won national championship, we all think, all think that
that Jim Harbaugh is going to get close or is
a high level coach. But the point is that some
of it is you look around at everybody else's like, man,
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are we really going to get another unproven guy?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Are we going to get a guy that's won a
super Bowl? Yes? Has he dealt with young quarterbacks? Yes?
You know, as he built around and and and Russell
Wilson's whole thing was, you know, he was always so
conservative with his offensive game planning. But that worked, It worked.
I don't know if they can you know, if they
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can crack that code of the draft that they were
able to crack when they were in Seattle and build
a legion of boom. I don't know if the popping
around and chewing gum like you're eighteen still works, but
I think this has a better chance to work. A
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more likely scenario if he's surrounding himself with young, energetic
coaches and then they just have to get the quarterback
position right. But I actually fully understand the Raiders being
the Raiders. Hire a former USC guy, hire a retread,
do the opposite of what you did before, but also
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somebody who's worked with young quarterbacks in the past. That's
it's my feeling of it. It's my feeling of it. Fire.
What do you think, Bud.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I think that the Raiders go into this division shorthanded
and Pete Carroll gives them the best opportunity unity to compete.
And I know that is his mantra and it fits
perfectly with his name. But he can go toe to
toe with these guys, even if he doesn't have all
the dogs or the better players. He's shown that he
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can build that culture, build that team, and they will
compete in that division. And I wonder if you went
the opposite route. So Doug of Antonio Pierce was such
a unique situation. I don't even call him a route.
Then it's not meant to disrespect him. It's just kind
of caught lightning in a bottle during his interim head
coaching term, and then let's just give it to him
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full time. If you were to bring in a young assistant,
actually they it'd be difficult in that division with those
three guys for a little while, and it actually brings stability.
So a lot of what you're saying I agree with.
I know it's going to be easy to pick on
and easy to poke holes, and I've got my own
jokes as well, but it probably is the best thing
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for the Raiders at this time to try to to
try to develop some sort of culture or something in
that building because it's been anything, but it's been such
in flux over these last few years. You haven't had
any consistency. Maybe Pete Carroll can do that over the
next four or five years.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think I just I don't
think it's crazy. I don't think it's crazy, and it's
going to be really interesting to see what they do
in regarse to the quarterback position. I think, you know,
he is one of those guys that does have great
positive energy, great positive energy.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Russell Wilson's name has already been connected well.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
As far as quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I don't think that happens. I mean, and we
all like well motivated Russell Wilson, like, hmmm, I get that,
it's indoors. I get this Pete Carroll that they've worked
together before, and Pete had his back, But I'm and
it was basically it felt like in Seattle Russell said
me or him, and they're like, we're going to take him.
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And what has Russell Wilson done since that would lead
you to believe that next year, a year older, he
can be he's willing to even be a mentor quarterback.
Mentor quarterback Sam Darld might make sense, but I think
they draft somebody and they build that way. They build
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the same way they built in Seattle. Draft somebody, run
the football, play conservatively and see if he grows into
being a quarterback. That's got to be the same.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Plan for Carol. It's a three year deal Doug with
an option for a fourth, according to the reports.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So this is just to stabilize it for a couple
of years, and my guess is whoever he hires, probably
his offensive coordinator, becomes their guy. Who's the heir apparent,
who's gonna you know, if he if they fix the
quarterback position, that's the guy who would take over win Carol.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Retires, I also think be directly, but dan Quinn's success
this season I think also helps things, considering that he
was Carroll's defensive coordinator with the Seahawks when they went
to the Super Bowls. Obviously, Quinn's success with the Falcons
was something, but you'd have to think that there are
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some parallels to what Pete Carroll does and to what
dan Quinn does and could also help the Raiders in
that way. I don't think it's an overwhelming thing, but
I don't think it hurt either.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
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Speaker 2 (08:43):
Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Design. Yeah. Earlier in
the week, the tay Bay Buccaneers got great news is offense.
Regarding their offense, Cordeer Liam Cohen he'd pulled his name
out of the running for the Jacksonville Jaguars head coaching vacancy.
Then within twenty four hours, the Buccaneers had limited contact
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with Cohen, who remain unsigned, for he accepted the job
become the jaguars new head coach. Fans and the Buccaneers
front office were upset Cohen was going to return to
the club next season as one of the highest paid
offensive courtaters in NFL history. Instead, Trent Bulkey was fired
and Cohen will be coaching the Jaguars as the headman
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following one season with the Buccaneers. Cohen wrote this in
a statement, Becoming the coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars the
opportunity of a lifetime and one that I'm going to
run with to instill a championship culture and winning tradition
here in Duval duvall Is, the county that Jacksonville is in.
This doesn't happen without the sport and opportunities that my
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family and I have been afforded throughout my career, especially
this past season in Tampa. We want to thank Todd
Bowles for his continued support in his entire Buccaneers organization.
For the experience as they and know they will have
excess ahead. So it gets weirder because apparently Cohen didn't
come in to sign his contract because he said he
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had a sick child. Sick child, and then without contacting
the Buccaneers like, yeah, I'm gonna take that Jaguars job.
Now you have every right to take the job. And
it's completely okay that either you didn't want to take
it because Trent Balkey was the GM, or Trent Bualke
didn't want to hire you, and then when they got
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rid of Trent Balke, you became the prime candidate to
get the job. These things are okay, But that's uh
what's it called bad t Is that bad tea? Like,
that's not how you do.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
It, Isn't that the It's an excuse that can never
be uh questioned. If you've got a sick kid, of
course you're not going to be here.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know, take all the time you need.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I use this site. I say this all the time
when your buddy uses the excuse last second that the
babysitter are canceled. Nobody's disputing that that's a horrible position
to be in. Of course you're not going to be
here if the problem is when that same buddy does
it again or does it even a third time, and then,
oh so he's full of crap and he's going to
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a go to excuse that everyone uses because it can't
be questioned.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, I just go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Did you see the state of the tweets that his
wife put out? No, so, Ashley Cohen tweeted, I hate
that I even have to say this, but when people
are negative about my kids, it will not be silent.
Our son is sick. We were at the hospital yesterday
seeing a specialist for his autoimmune disease. Please don't spread
misinformation and assume you heard one side.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So he is kid was sick, and he ghosted the
team and he took the Jaguars chop.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Possibly maybe he wasn't at the hospital, but his wife
is saying that they were at the hospital for their
sixth son.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Listen, I believe he's at the hospital. I believe he
got the head coach job. I believe that all these
things that we think happened again, we just don't know
if it was Bulky didn't want to hire him and
then they got rid of Bulky, or he didn't want
to work for Bulky. That's what happened with Byron Leftwich
was that two years ago, I think two years ago,
he was up for the head coaching job in Jacksonville
and he's like, I don't want to you know, he
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made it very clear, I'm not taking that job unless
I bring in my own GM. So again, I don't
know what happened in regards to Trent Balky. I do
know that, as we all know, that change at the
top of their front office directly coincides with Cohen now
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being the head coach. I'm willing to believe he did
have a sick kid, but like, dude, call your boss,
call your boss, call your boss, because you know, you
know who actually has been a coordinator and been up
for jobs and taking a job before that would be
Todd Bowles. Have been him twice, all right, He's theres
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on the Cardinals. They took the Jets job. Okay, then
he was the decordinator for the Buccaneers that he got
promoted when Bruce arians retired. So yeah, I just I'm
sorry that their kid is sick and he has an
autoimmune disease that he's in the hospital. I'm willing to
believe your kid is sick. These two things can be true.
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Your kid can be sick, and you're wrong for not
calling your boss.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Can I ask something of both of you that I
think half of our listeners are asking right now. Okay,
who the hell is Liam Cuhen? Because if you're a
guy that's making these kinds of power moves, if you're
leveraging one job to could be the highest paid player
coach at another job and then retro and then retroactively
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they fired the GM and then you take the job
like you have to be somebody who's very well established.
Is he that good? Like? Who the hell is this guy?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
You'd spend some time with Sean McVay and the Rams
also spent time at the University of Kentucky. I think
Baker Mayfield's play, the success of what Dave Canalis did
in the second half of the year in Carolina, I
think helps things. I think all of that probably plays
into it. But to your point, I get what you're
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saying is you would think that maybe there would be
more fervor over someone that had a bigger, more popular
name like Ben Johnson. We've talked about for three years,
and Liam Cohen has just been recently. I will also
say this, If this is the case, this would be
the one hundred millionth time that being sick to go
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to work for another job interview have occurred in life.
How many times do people say, can't make it into
that they got doctor's appointment, are interviewing somewhere else. We
feel like we're so violated because of this, or feel
that he's using his child as a pawn when it's
been happening since the beginning of time.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna take this call.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Sorry, but I got to step out for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Tommy, Tommy Tupperville is the worst, right, Tommy Tupbraville. When
he left was it Texas Tech for Ole miss Is
that right? Check my work on that one. Dan. He
was at a recruiting dinner, Okay, he had recruits in
town in Lubbock, and he's like, yeah, I gotta take
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this phone call, and then he got in his car
left and then I went to the airport and never
never came back. That's the worst. And by the way,
Tommy Tepperville, who now represents his constituent and see, is
just that's who he is. Okay, that's an all timer.
It's an all timer.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
There is all timer there was it was? Was it
the old miss in Auburn? Gig?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Was that it? No? I thought he was? Was he
at Tech?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
He was after old Miss? He went from Tech to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay, so it's Texas Cinati. So it's when he left
Tech to go to Cincinnati. I think maybe it's maybe, yeah,
I don't think it's when he left. I think it's
when he Yeah, he left uh Tech for Cincy, and
uh he took a phone call and there was recruits there, right, yeah, yeah,
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Tommy Tepperville, he did Texas Tech recruits at at dinner
to take the Cincinnati job. Isn't that crazy? Like recruits
group recruits at the fifty yard line restaurant during their
fish of is it? He's like, ah, I gotta take
a phone call and then never came back. He did
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the did we determine is it the Iris exit or
Tian exit? Which one is it?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I thought it was the Irish.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
The Italian exit is oh wait, you're right, Irish is
leaving without telling anybody.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
The Italian was where you kiss everybody goodbye and say
goodbye to everybody, takes an hour fought. Yeah, yeah, and
the dining ditch is what he did. Also, you know
a little little dining ditch.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I don't think he dined in ditch. I think it
was still covered.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
You know he did ditch though, Yeah he dined a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Oh man, what a what a day? What a lot
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So the story that we kind of took people through
(17:53):
is had a great year obviously with Baker talks with
the Jacksonville Jaguars and then pulls himself out of the
Jaguars head coaching running and then tells Todd Bowles, hey,
not coming into work, my kid is sick. And then
turns around and after Trent Balky is fired, he takes
(18:15):
the Jaguars shop. First thing is this was Trent Balky
fired because he didn't want to hire Cohen? Or was
he fired because Cohen didn't want to work with him?
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Yeah, it's a great way to look at it, and
I'm sure Sean Khan was frustrated with the entire situation there.
My gut is at the end, Liam Cohen's agent said, look,
that's not who he wants to work with, and you know,
it's just not going to be a good fit. And
I think Jacksville was like, wait a second, this is
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going to look bad for us. We've got to figure
out who's their coaches football team. And I think it's
one of those like what we saw in the random
world of like Sean Watson with the Cleveland Browns, suddenly
Cleveland comes back and goes, wait a second, we can
change this. Love the Cleveland Browns. So I think that's
what happened to here in Jacksonville, like, wait, we're going
to change this. We'll bring in the GM that will
work along beside you instead of GM that's here, and
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voil you got your new head coach in Jacksonville, Liam Coleen,
who I still don't know if he called the Buccaneers
back yet.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Okay, And then in regards to how he's handled it,
by the way, Byron Leftwich, the same thing happened two
years ago, right what Byron Leftwich said, like, I don't
want to take the Jacksonville job unless if Trent Bulki's there.
So I'm sure there's some kind of dejavou all over
again for Shad Cohn. Okay, so what about the not calling?
(19:36):
How is it supposed to work? How does it really
really work? Because I told people yesterday one of the
things I told people yesterday, and I don't know in
the NFL how it works. But there was this it
was mostly Twitter conversation about the fact that Bill Belichick
hadn't signed his contract in North Carolina, and people don't
realize that. What happens in college is you sign a
(19:58):
memo of understanding and you start working and then they
work through, especially at a state school, they work through
all the details of the contract. It has to go
through everything. If you work for the state, has to
go through all the same stuff that any professor does,
you know, all this different background checks, whatever, and then
they come to you with the actual package, which should
mirror the memo of understanding. Sometimes is the no negotiation
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that takes place. So that was actually totally normal. How
does it normally work with a coordinator taking a job
with another team?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean I don't think it's that far off
from what you're saying. You know, it's it's number one.
The agent's doing his job right. The agent is looking
out for his client, which is the coach, and trying
to find stability, but also understanding that it's the National
Football League. It's hard to find stability. So the agent
sitting there going, I don't think I can go back
to Jackville, but I have some leverage right now to
be able to see if I can get this thing
(20:47):
through in terms of getting my my coach. You know,
a really good raise and a really good situation. They're
in Tampa, and so we took advantage of it. And
you know, does that come back and haunt you or
I think that it's not ideal but trying to be
all these guys goals are to be a head coach
in the NFL. Totally get that, And so if you
can't imagine that's the possibility, then you're kind of mistaken
(21:08):
in terms of the way you look at the situation.
So I don't sit there and fault the agent and say,
what was he doing? Why would you do this to
the club? I sit there and say they took advantage
of the leverage they had, and then they played it
into being the new head coach. I don't think there's
hard feelings in Tampa. I think they're probably disappointment, but
they all know that. You know, Liam was going to
be head coached maybe one year sooner, one year later,
and I think for Liam, strike while the iron's hot.
(21:30):
You know, you just never know from year to year.
I mean, Bobby Sloke just got fired and that was
a surprise to me considering how hot his name was
just one year ago.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Steug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Your reaction
to Pete Carroll being the new head coach of the
Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Surprise, you know, And this is you know, you're supposed
to hire the best quality candidate you can find, right
and it shouldn't matter age, and you shouldn't let those
signs into it. But you know, if you're the Raiders
and you're trying to find stability, you might have found
some stability for a little bit here, But the reality
is is he going to coach for five years or
(22:10):
six years or Candy coach that long? I don't know,
And that would be my concern, is that I'm trying
to find a coach that can be here for a while,
not just for a little bit, and you know, will
how long Candy coach? Does he want to coach and
will he coach? It's concerning. I feel like it's just
kind of a desperate hire to cincerns say we've done
something and people will like this. I don't think it's
I feel like it's not the best hire and have
(22:31):
nothing against Coach Carroll, and I feel like there's a
better decision to be made out there within this organization,
and I think they just kind of were getting worried
about being embarrassed and went with the easy choice I
think is what it would be, instead of taking the
time and really digging through this process because that would
be two years in a row.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Now.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I feel like with Coach Pearson now Coach Carroll, I
don't think they've dug the way you could dig into
who's the right fit for the culture of you're building in,
what's the plan of attack with the quarterback positions.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Mark Dominic, former general manager Camp Bay Buccaneers,
of course, worked for over twenty years in NFL front offices. Oh, okay,
give me your sense of Dallas.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Yeah again, I think we talked about last week. I
really never felt like Dian was going to be the
head coach of the Cowboys because I don't think Dian
wants to coach against the Sun in the Nation Football League.
I think he only wants to be a head coach
in the NFL if he can coach to doer and
obviously Dallas isn't going to do that. So I never
thought Dion was really in play. And it seems like
that's coming together that way in terms of you know,
(23:37):
continuity and understanding and the same old, same old. You know,
this is not a huge surprise where we're sitting here
today with looking at the Cowboys saying, you know, maybe
solid in it. But it certainly feels like this is
Schottenheimer's opportunity. And it turns around and it says, you know, again,
we don't have to completely change the Apple carts and
(23:59):
maybe it's a different voice at the podium. Zimmer can
still stay on the defensive side, and we can Kumbayavis
to you know, hopefully getting the team back together again.
It's a weird hire. I mean, I love coach Shotti.
I've known Brian since, you know, start with his you know,
I had a chance to work with his dad when
I first got in the league and known Brian for
a long time. I'm happy for him. It just seems
(24:22):
like I thought there would be a bigger plan in
play for Dallas where something didn't go the way they
thought it was going to go, and they got caught
a little bit here instead of just figuring out how
to give Big Mac Mike Mack back in under a
under a contract.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh Mark
Dominic is our our guest, of course's former gentle manager
of the of the of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay,
so so far in this cycle, who's done the best
job from your perspective?
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Well, I mean I got this. I mean it's tough
to say. You know, the Jets of Aaron Glenn seemed
really like a good fit. I think they've been thinking
Aaron Glenn for a long time. I think they were
just interviewing people just to gather information, but not really
give them a real shot at being the head coach.
That's what I really think happened to the Jets, which
is fine. You can do that, and there's nothing wrong
against that. You're just trying to get an overall sense of,
(25:15):
you know, the different things out there, whether it's seeing
maybe that team's free agents, or how this person would attack,
fixing the Jets and things like that. But I think
Aaron was going to be the guys. It's hard enough
to look at Ben Johnson goes, look if he can
get that system going with Caleb Williams and the Bears.
How important it is, especially in this division where it
feels like, you know, you're the fourth team trying to
figure out how to get back on and into this
(25:36):
playoff punt of the NFC North, which looks to be
a very big gauntlet every year. I got to think
you have to feel pretty good about that. If your
Bears fans waking up, going, we just want to get
an offense. Let's let's build an offense. Let's go I know,
defenses in the blood and in the culture of the
Chicago people. But I got to say that, you know,
not to the surprise, but the two coordinators, obviously out
(25:57):
of Detroit, both have good fit. My only concern about
the Jets is what is Aaron's you know, thought process
of how to fix the quarterback position. That will be
very interesting to see what he ends up doing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Steut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, when
you watch the Ravens and turnovers end up becoming a
huge factor and why they lost. I mean, really, you know,
of the games like last Weekend three, the four, this
the real story was turnovers. But let's let's just start
(26:28):
with with Ravens. Another year, another year of disappointment in
the playoffs. What would you do if you were Eric Tacosta.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Yeah, I mean I think I don't do anything. I
think I wish I had, you know, Zay Flowers within
the building. I think that they actually had a lot
of good things this year that came together. I mean,
if they beat the Buffalo, if they beat the Buffalo Bills,
but they beat themselves, right, Buffalo played the clean games
the Ravens did not. That's just the bottom line to
what your point is. But this team clearly was the
(26:59):
scariest team I think in all of the playoffs. And
because they're out of it, it certainly changes, you know,
the way you look at it. But I wouldn't change anything.
I think when you look at this team. Roger Rosengarten's
a second round pick. The right tackle came in, looked
really good for the whole season, played well for them,
and it was really big. I mean, Nate Wiggins, I
think when you look at this football team, I don't
think you mess up with hardly anything. I think you
(27:20):
kind of try to keep it together as much as
you can, realizing how good of the group this is.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And so.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
I think you're perfectly spot on. I don't think you
change anything about this team. I think you're never gonna
have the same fifty three one year to the next.
But I think you tinker, you don't collapse or dismantle
anything here.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
How difficult will it be for the Lions when you
lose both your coordinators?
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Well, you know it's always tough, right because you like continuity,
the same guys, everything like that, and you've been spoiled
for last year. But I'm sure Brad Holmes, the general
manager there certainly and ownership certainly are very aware that, look,
we could lose both these guys, and they probably thought
that's before the season started. So I'm sure that they
have absolutely worked on their list of like this is
our go to list of this is the go to
(28:06):
people and this is how we're gonna this is how
we're going to deal with it. And I think I
think they're going to be in pretty good shape because
it had so much time to think about it. It wasn't like,
you know, halfway through the season, was there whispers that
Liam Combe could be a head coach in the NFL. Maybe,
but I'm sure they walked into season when we've got
this guy for a couple of years and we're good.
I think so you weren't preparing the same possible way.
I think that's different for we're in Detroit where it's like,
(28:28):
obviously this was going to happen, and it did, and
therefore we'll just have to adjust and move accordingly. And
I think they'll be able to handle it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, Okay, Philadelphia this weekend welcomes in Washington. What's your
reaction to Dan Quinn and this team's ability behind a
rookie quarterback to accomplish what they've accomplished.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Just amazing. But you know, I think what's great about
it is, you know, Cliff Kingsbury is a name that
you know, I think it sounds like up this year
with the way these deals of these jobs are all
getting cleaned up. But I think next year you're going
to read Cliff's name in a lot of places, and
I think it's not just dan Quinn, but it's Cliff.
But it's also so much about the guy, right, It's
(29:13):
so much Jade Daniels has earned what he's getting right
now in the National Football League and that's you got
to love that. You got to love that. You know
he's getting what he deserves by the work he's put
into it. And Cliff Kingsbury came out even back in
the summer and said, this guy works. And you sit
there and you listen to it, right, Doug, and you're like, well,
Cliff Kingsbury was in Arizona and we heard a lot
about Kyler Murton not working. So clearly he sees a
(29:35):
really good trend here that he's excited about. And now
Jayden and Daniels did it and earned the locker room
quickly and has now earned his respect to the National
Football League across the board. A great season and still
a lot to look forward to in a team that
you know what, it feels good to root for him.
Are they as good as the Eagles? We'll see what
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Jalen Hurts can do, but I think that's injury to
Sam Cosmy is a big deal with Jalen Carter inside.
Whether Jalen Carter puts the motor down eighty ninety percent
or still runs it at fifty percent will be the
difference in this game.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I think Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio,
can you beat the Kansasity Chiefs in Canson? If you're Buffalo? Right?
This is like there were thirteen seconds away three years ago.
Is this the year it happens?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
I think it is.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Doug.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Before the season started, I had the Buffalo Bills going
to the Super Bowl, and I'm not changing my answer now.
I still feel like Buffalo is I think they got
through the scarier opponent. I think Kansas City is a
great football team. Look, it's where I started my career,
so it's never fun to kind of root against or
I think negatively towards Kansas City. I've got nothing but
fond thoughts about it. But I just think the Buffalo
Bills can score points because I think the difference is
(30:44):
the legs of Josh Allen, the legs of James Cook
are going to be a big factor in this football game.
And I think that's going to be the piece of
the puzzle that's going to help them be good enough
to win this game this weekend. And you know, I'm
not an ABC guy. Anybody of a chiefs. I love
when you see somebody be able to be part of
deathty or take over destiny. They've done that. But I've
(31:05):
got the Buffalo Bills winning this game because I think
they can. They can kind of calm down what I'd
say is the tight end room of the Kansy chief
If you can calm down the tight end room, that's
no agree too. It's not just Kelsey. You got to
stop them both or limit them. I think that's the
big difference, and I think they can do that.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Mark awesome stuff. Man, Enjoy the championship weekend, and we'll
talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Sound good, Enjoy it good.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
It's The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Something Pat
Mahomes said that I've been trying to say we should
do about Pat Mahomes. I want to talk about that.
Top of the hour plus we have Jared Smith. He'll
(31:57):
give us our picks, his picks and we'll give you
our Pick's part of the Gambler. All part of the
Doug Gottlieb Show. Hey, welcome in Hope. You're having a
great Friday. Let's get to Dan Byer, who brings us
a game.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Hey, Dan, can we get a quick update? There was
that fire kind of close to your house. What's the update, Doug?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
The update is most everybody is back in place. We
were back home last night. Still smells like the ash
and smoke, but everybody is safe. Last night I saw
was that thirty six percent containment, which was pretty good.
Now up to fifty six percent as I just looked
at it right now. But the Hues fire, everything is
(32:48):
a okay, no structures damaged and obviously no lives lost,
which was magnificent.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Is that named after Howard or Larry.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Hugheses a bucket? He's a bucket. What do you got?
What's the game today?
Speaker 5 (33:06):
The game today is I got DIBs.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
By the way, there was the Laguna fire which was
in cam Rio, just to confuse people. So that was
a crazy one. All right, We're gonna do a little
different little Championship weekend sort of theme. We throw out
the topic and we just take DIBs on favorite player.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Hey, just quick update. The President said that for now on,
every fire is going to be named the American Fire. Right,
American American fire to mess.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Uh, moving on, I got DIBs. Topic today is for
the Championship weekend. We are gonna grab our favorite players
from the four teams. But you just have to wait
till I announce the team before you can get in
your DIBs. Okay, first up, favorite all time player from
(33:59):
Water Washington Commander's football team, even the Redskins, favorite all
time Washington football player.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It's easy.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Well, anybody get your DIBs in. John Riggins, Oh, you're
a Riggins guy.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I mean he was forty four, that was my number.
He was kind of a badass. He looked like he
should be on the A team. I don't know, like,
I yeah, I know he's I think he went super weird, right,
but uh yeah, John Riggins football player, he was like
a yeah like him and Mike Alstott like and Christian McCaffrey. Right,
(34:37):
it's like the three best white running backs right. John
Riggins was tough. I like John Riggins.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
I think he showed a lot of bravery and a
lot of like I don't care what people think, not
for anything he did on the field. But if you're
going to sport that perm, yeah, a guy sporting that perm, yeah,
but you forget to balls.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
No, that was a big coach. Sutton had a PERM
back then. He but he would call it when you
talk about the old days when he had the PERM,
he would actually call it a permanent. He's the only
human being I've ever stard because a permanent, A perm
is a permanent, but nobody called it a permanent other
than Nettie Sutton. So shout out to my late, late
great former coach.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I got dibbs on Sean Springs. He was so one
of my all time favorite buck Eys played for the Seahawks,
but then when the Seahawks days were over, ended up
going back home to d C and playing for Washington.
Give me Sean Springs.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I got DIBs on Sean Taylor blowing up that punter
in the Pro Bowl Game. He left us early, I
know it, but the Commanders have done something that I respect.
Their tribute to Sean Taylor. Whatever the hell that statue
was was roundly criticized, and they're actually going to reimagine
it and do something different, So good for them.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
All right, Sam, you got one and you want to
move on, I'll take I got DIBs on a former
Hawkeye with Dell bets Hell bat you might notice say
it here, all right, favorite all time Philadelphia Eagle. I
got DIBs on Randall Cunningham. I had a jersey, autographed
jersey of his. I was young, righty right, favorite Eagle.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I got DIBs on Brian Dawkins.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I like Brian Dawkins as well.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah, it's a good pick.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
I got DIBs on Ron Chaworski.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
That's a great pick.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I was gonna go with Cooper dejen He is a
finalist for the Ape Defensive Rookie of the Year, but
he hasn't been there for more than He's still a rookie,
so he will eventually. Okay, how are you measuring it?
He will, I guess eventually, be my Doug.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Do you have a pick?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
No, I I mean, if it was a player, would
be Darren Sproles. But remember I hate everything about the
Eagles everything, so I would never select a favorite Eagle.
All My favorite Eagles are the ones who left being
filled up Eagles. Secon One bar and Darren Sproles are
the only appropriate dancers. But I hate the Eagles all right.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
We only got time for one team. Favorite Buffalo Bill
of all time?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Oh, I got dibbl on Darryl Talley. Darryl Talley can
get after it.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Darryl Tally. I like that. Tally up the votes here.
I like Fred Jackson. I feel least the lost Buffalo
Bill went to co College.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yes, yes, Thurman Thomas. There is the therminator Thurman Thomas.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
And what school do you go to?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Oh? Good Lahoma State?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
That is game time.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I thought my answer was the best one for the Eagles.
It's just the honest one, all right. Talk about some
Cancay Chief football next. Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Tradio
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