August 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Doug reacts to the first full weekend of NFL preseason action and highlights Shedeur Sanders' impressive debut for the Browns. Former NFL GM Tom Telesco joins Doug to give his thoughts on how the Chargers can move forward without Rashawn Slater on their offensive line. Plus, Micah Parsons and Jerry Jones are still not talking!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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got football games to discuss, all right, NFL quarterbacks to discuss,
maybe a little maybe a little baseball. I don't see
a bunch of that in the rundown because I don't know.
I just we have Did I mention we have NFL
football going on right now? Did did I mention?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So cool to be sitting down in a sports bar
and to see and to see NFL football. I'd like
the NFL is so brilliant in their branding, you know.
I just I can't get over how it can sighted.
I am. Are you guys like that? Well, we told
you that Friday would be potentially a day of reckoning
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for one side or the other, and this is sort
of what we do, right It's it's like the Sydney
Sweeney thing from last week. Nobody I know who actually
matters in this world was like offended by the jeans
ad but the right brilliantly found a way. Okay, you
find a couple of tweets from some crazy people, like, look,
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there's three hundred fifty million people in the United States,
half of one percent is still over a million and
a half people. All it takes is a couple tweets
here or there, and you're like, oh, got the liberals, Hey,
you hate Sidney Sweeney. Cue all the dancing sorority girls, right,
And it becomes an either or like you either have
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to you have to love women showing that which I
think most people do showing their bodies in tasteful ways,
or you have to be anti anything, which is a
super small percentage of people. But again, you take a
couple of people, a couple of tweats. It's the same
thing with Shadoor Sanders. You're like, what, yeah, hey, nobody
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said shad Or Sanders stunk like those words were never
But he clearly rubbed a lot of people the wrong
way with how he presented himself, how he interacted with
people during the pre draft process. Very obvious. You factor
in that with a limited number of teams who felt
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like they wanted to invest in a quarterback this year,
you know, because first round of investing it and then
it became kind of a snowball effect. But this is
you're made to feel like you're either pro Schoud Door Sanders,
which there definitely are pro shudor Sanders, but there's lots
of people that are pro Schaud Door Sanders just because
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they feel like it's the man keeping him down. It's
so weird, right, Here's a kid that comes from wealth,
it's played for his dad that's been really good, and
we make it out like he was walking backwards uphill
in snow twenty mile an hour, winds in his face
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at every possible opportunity. But you do have some anti
Chador Sanders sentiment only in that dude really play football well,
then if you want to have the entourage you can.
He puts cart while ahead of horse. But it's not
like there's a bunch of people going he stinks he
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can't play. He's awful that that never occurred. But again,
people who are pro Shaudoor much will make you think
that's what the narrative was. It wasn't it was hold
it a little along. Not a great athlete, really accurate,
not a great arm and some entitlement there. You're like,
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all right, like that's a reasonable scant report. Well, he
goes out and he plays really well after kind of
a shaky first I think two drives with the Cleveland Browns,
and after the game he was shut or on his performance.
Do you feel like you did something today to move
up the depth chart?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I honestly don't know, and I don't really care. You know,
whenever it's my turn and I just gotta take avertens
of it. I feel like, you know, today I did
some good, some bad, and I know moving forward, you
know I won't make the same mistakes twice. Does not
am I going throw? And you know, regardless of whatever
the situation, it does not up to me, and it
is what it is. I just got to, you know,
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accept whatever whatever everything come with.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay. So that's Shador Sanders. There's some you know, old
time cliches in there, but like, let's let's not nitpick.
He's an NFL rookie. He handled all the questions really well.
I don't think he needed to go and confront a
Cleveland Reporter about than negativity. All you do is negativity
or whatever. Just go play football. The rest takes care
of itself. It really does. It does. But he's seen
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his dad do that, and that's how he carries himself.
You know, my son carries himself much like I do.
People say that all the time. Now your son, he's
got your manners, say he's my son. That's actually how
it kind of works. So you know, I land on
this thing going he look good, re look good. The
question becomes you know, I love and I loved his
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answer about I won't make the same mistakes twice. That's
what sports is about. That's what experience is about. Anybody
can have experience. But are you continuing to make the
same mistakes over and over and over and over again,
or you are you evolving? And he'll play against better defenses.
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You know, he'll play with better players as well, like
they didn't play all their starters. And I'm just not so.
But who's gonna sit here and freak out because I've
seen this enough and this is what we do. We're
just as guilty of it in the media as anybody else.
We make it out to should or stinks or should
door is awesome and everybody's got it wrong. Whereas my
take is I thought he's pretty good, but god, he's arrogant,
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and I just imagine blowing off your dream job interview
time and again and then being surprised when you don't
get the job. That's not how I operate, not how
anybody I know operates. But to this test, he passed,
and please don't sit here and say pass with flying colors.
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We don't know even by his own estimations, he made mistakes.
It's is he on an upper trajectory? Will he get better?
And honestly, what really matters is the guys in that
locker room. If they buy into him, it doesn't matter
what we think. If they will kill for him, it
doesn't matter what we think. The thing that turned a
lot of NFL scout off was not just how he
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was in those meetings. It was also the fact that
there was a feeling that, you know, everybody played for him,
not with him. You know, when the offensive line broke down,
you know that that there would be hell to pay,
because whereas when he made a mistake, there would not.
You know, there's always the assumption of daddy ball, whether
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it exists or doesn't exist. Playing for your father. I
get it. It's very difficult. Shador passed, probably failed with
the onentourage thing and was in that negative with confronting
a local reporter. What's the point, you know, go play
win games, get the team behind you, get the coach
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to buy in, and when you get your opportunity, kick ass.
That's all you can do. But I I just this
is this is Lamar Jackson. People are like, well, Lamar Jackson.
They said he couldn't throw, Like, no, he wasn't accurate
as a thrower in college. He's really improved. Josh Allen
not accurate as a thrower in college, made some adjustments
now is improved. And I'm not putting him in that.
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I'm not putting him in with those guys because I
don't think he has the arm of those guys. But
if you want to know what people really thought, they
thought he was good. They're like, man, there had to
be something going on, and there was in those interviews.
And he's not a plus athlete. He doesn't have a
plus plus arm. He's plus plus in accuracy and he's
played a lot of football. He's got a high football IQ.
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My take on Shure was he was as good or
better than most people would hope. But it's just a step.
And it also shows the old Dylan Gabriel your best
part of your best ability is availability, and he got
left behind. It's a hard one to come back from.
Hard one. Lots more to come in the Doug Gottlieb
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Show here on Fox Sports Radio. We got some new
stuff with Mike Jones is going to join us in
the second hour. He's a national NFL writer for the
Athletic Tom Telesco will join us. Upcoming in fifteen minutes, Yeah,
fifteen minutes to LESCo will join us. Course, he's the
former gentlem manager of the La Chargers and of the
Las Vegas Raiders. But up next, what's going on? Matt
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Stafford was supposed to practice day make like some crazy
number of throws and now not throwing. Will Matt Stafford
play for the Rams this year? Give you my thoughts
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course Tom for eleven years general manager of the San
Diego and La Chargers and last year the Las Vegas Raiders.
Everyone's talking about Shador Sanders' performance from a general manager's perspective.
What'd you see?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, I can see, you know, Andrew Barry, the gem
of the brown sitting back and at least saying the
traits that we saw in college really showed up in
the game. And that's that's you know, you know, big
time poison in the pocket. Like nothing ever rattles them,
whether there's pressure, whether it's you know, somebody gets getting
beat up front. And he's really accurate with the football,
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and especially down in the red zone. Redszones at the
hardest place to be accurate because those windows are really tight,
like everything happens faster, and he shows you can footballs
in tight spaces. So you know, there's still things to
work on. Like, you don't like to see him retreated
as much as he does. Sometimes they go make a play,
but that's kind of like the playmaker mentality that he has.
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But you know, I'm proud of him to go through
this process where obviously he thought he's going to be
drafted higher. He wasn't. He was drafted in the fifth round.
He goes in, he's one of four quarterbacks competing. So
when you have four quarterbacks, you know in a competition
there aren't going to be that many snaps. And all
he's gone is take him every snaps he has and
trying to make him count and then he gets in
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the game and really produce. So we'll see where weeks
two and three go. But to me, he's earned a chance,
you know, to play a little bit more, hopefully get
out there with the ones a little bit and show
what he can do. But I feel very comfortable to
the fact that what he saw in college he saw
at least on the professional field. I know his preseason,
but he saw that same thing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Uh what what's he missing? Obviously there's the meetings and
some of the arrogance. I'm not sure he did a
lot to dispel that with the with the entourage, But
uh what what is he missing that doesn't allow those
things to be glossed over?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I don't know what he's missing. I mean, I wasn't,
you know, part of the very end process of the
scouting of the player. But I mean, he's played a
lot of football in college. He obviously has a good
feel for the game. For how he plays it now
is he's certainly I mean, he's picking up the Browns
offense and that's gonna take some work, there's no doubt
about that. But but you know, same with Dylan Gabriel
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and really same with Kenny Pickett because he's new to
that offense as well, and he's a young quarterback. So
but look, you know, he can stand in the pocket,
he can deliver the football, and he's accurate, and he's
a better athlete than people think. You know that, I
think to his athletic ability. I think when your dad,
Dion Standers, who is one of the best athletes on
the planet, I think people who hadn't seen should or
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play disfigured he'd be able to run like his dad. Well,
you know, he's not his dad as far as an
athlete and speak a concerned but he's still plenty athletic,
athoughtic enough to get out go get a chunky yards
when he has to. He can still slide around and
move in the pocket, find an open area and make
a throw. So he's got a lot of things going
for him, and now it's just about turning into a
pro quarterback and getting getting a hold of the offense.
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And I think he's gonna be fine in the end.
Will up you this year? I don't know, but I
think you know he'll be a starter at some point
in this league.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Jackson Dark
one preseason game in what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I like what I saw, I really did. And he's
another one. You know, when you watch players play in college,
you're projecting their trades at the next level, and sometimes
they translated, sometimes they do not. And Jack did a
lot of same things you saw in college. You saw
in his first pre season game. He's very athletic, he's tough,
he can go run with the football. There are probably
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a couple of players you probably should have slid, he didn't.
He kind of brings that moxie to the offense. And
one of the biggest things you saw in college with
him is he can hang in the pocket, burst pressure
and make a throw and take a hit and still
deliver the ball on time with accuracy. And he showed
that more than a couple of times. You know, whatever,
I think he played maybe a half of football, So
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I'd love to see that, like the bull get out
of his hand quickly and is extremely tough. So again,
you're seeing the same things you saw in college with him,
and as a general manager when you draft the players,
that's what you're hoping. You're hoping that transition isn't going
to be as big as you would think you're projecting forward.
But the things that I saw with him, I thought
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they were pretty impressive. Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I know J. J.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
McCarthy didn't play a lot, but you also evowed him
going back to last year for in the draft. What
are your thoughts on the Vikings and young quarterback?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, you know, when I was with the Raiders last year,
we had a chance. We played them in the preseason
and he played in that game before he got hurt,
and he played extremely well against us. He moved the team.
He's a really good athlete. He's got a good seat,
made a couple of big throws, but he just hasn't
played a lot of football yet, and missing all of
last year due to injury, where you're doing a lot
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more rehab than you're doing anything practice wise, it just
it just sets them back a little bit. But He
made a couple of decent throws the other day, just
didn't play a lot of snaps in the preseason game.
So right now it's just him trying to get up
the speed with the offense and with Kevin O'Connell, which
which I think that's a good combination I have when
when Kevin o'coonins were head coach and kind of see
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how that that plays along. And he's not. He's a
difficult situation just because there that's fourteen win team last year,
so this is not like this is not a rebuild,
a retool. This team's built to win right now, you know,
with their offense and their defense. So he's gonna have
to me bring up his game kind of push. He
pushed him along, but I just think it's gonna take
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a little bit of time even into the fall to
kind of get him into the mix, just because he
missed so much. He's essentially a rookie right now, but
not is he a rookie, but he missed all of
last year of just development, practice and playing. So we'll
see more from him, assuming he'll play more in preseason
two to kind of get him ready for opening day.
But the skills are there, He's just gonna have to
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take some time.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Tom Telesco is our guest year on the Doug gott
Leave Show on Fox Sports Radio. Course. Tom was most
recently the gem manager of the Las Vegas Rangers. Before that,
he's gump managered of the La Chargers. Chargers tough news
last week, Shaan Slater, who you drafted at Northwestern Star
left tackle, was a Pro Bowler. Is his rookie season right,
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and it all pro as well? And he ruptured his
Patel attendant. Uh, give me your outlook for their what's
their offensive line look like in front of Justin Herbert
considering how much they want to run the football?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I mean, I still think they'll be okay, and
they're obviously not going to be as good. I mean,
they had to probably the best tackle duo in the
league with with Rashawan and Joe Walt, and but you
know they can move Joe Walt to left tackle, which
they already have in practice, So he'll move over to left.
Joe Walt's gonna be a Pro Bowl tackle, if not
this year, real real soon they can put Trade Pitkins
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the right tackle who has played a lot of football.
I know that you know there'll be a drop off
from Joe Walt to Trade Tipkins. I realize that, but
you know there's things you can do with the offense
to chip to help to know where you may have
to give a little help on one side of the
of the line. But so I think they can survive this.
Obviously not going to be as dominant as they thought
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they were going going to be. They're losing a big
time players. It's it's it's really difficult to see you
a guy that just you know, Rashana just signed that deal.
He's ready to go. They're built with the offensive line
to see him go down. It's difficult, I know, But
I still think they think they can be okay. Thank
god they've got Old to move over there there on
the left side and kind of keep it moving. They'll
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have to change up a little bit, probably with headwear,
ends up being the right tackle. Makai Becton's play tackle.
I think he's a better guard than tackle. To my thoughts,
is a guest that they'll probably just leave him at
guard and put him next to Trap Tipkins. I guess
we'll kind of see. As he worked through the preseason.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Uh, Tom Pelusco is our guest here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. You know you were
we were talking earlier about about quarterbacks. Uh, the Matt
Stafford thing. So Matt Stafford's not going to practice today.
Multiple ports said Stafford's in street and has entered into
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the wellness chamber before the session. He's got this disk
issue in his back. I put you in charge of
the LA Raiders. What do you do? I mean, La Rams,
what do you do?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
My first question is what's the wellness chamber? I think
I could use that. Yeah, I don't even know what
that is. Look, I mean I'd be concerned about it obviously.
You know, an older quarterback with the back issue that
seems like it's been lingering a little bit here. It's
certainly a concern. You know, they've got Jimmy Garoppolo, who's uh,
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you know, a veteran quarterback, makes quick decisions, get the ball,
he gets the ball out of his hands, he can
move the team. But again, my concerns there is, you know,
he's had his own injury issues with with the Patriots
and with the forty nine ers and then even with
the Raiders. So you know, obviously he can go and
he can start and get them through. I just worry
about if something happened to him. So just the other day,
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Set and Benett played a majority of the game to
try and get him some work to theism hadn't played
football in over a year. So they're trying to probably
put their plan being Plan SEES together. Obviously Stafford's Plan A.
He played at such a high level last year, which
is really remarkable for where he is in his career.
But you're going to have to have some different plans
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ready to go just in case this doesn't go where
they wanted to go. And that's that's the concern is,
you know, back to unpredictable and he's in an age
that it's a little bit harder to come back from
these injuries, you know, despite what his toughness level is.
So that's what their whole preseason is going to be
about right now, is figuring out what's Plan B if
for some chance he's not ready for opening day or
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he's ready for opening day, but maybe it's hurt in
the middle of the season. But it's certainly something to watch.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Oh, I don't I don't think there's any question is
something to watch Micah Parsons, You know what, what's the
reality to how deals are done? Right? Because what we've
gotten was they had some sort of agreement but no
agent involved. And Dave mcgett is a powerful agent, he's
his agent. H best. Guess what what do you think
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happened there?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I don't know, because the agent is always going to
be involved. You're just you're never going to do a
deal that's a deal to this magnitude without the agent
being part of the process. And you know, maybe they've
done things a little bit differently in Dallas, but I
don't think they've done very many times. I mean, I'm
sure they've talked to players through the contract process, which
isn't common but some some teams may do that. But
the agent is always going to be a part of it.
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So at this point, I just think it's number one,
he had to repair the relationships first. And you know,
I'm just speculating that that it needs to be repaired,
but it sure sounds like it if they're not even
speaking right now, if that is true. So number one,
repair the relationship with the player in the agent, and
then then and then the second part is they have to,
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you know, work on the numbers part of it. That
should be the easier part. But number one, you just
got to get everybody on the same page, in the
same room. I don't know where they are right now.
I just have no feel for this. It's a different
type of situation that I've seen with the team just
trying to just directly dealing with the player. Which there's
a reason why players have agents, and the agents do
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this for a living. They negotiate hundreds upon thousands of
contracts and the players use them for guidance and advice.
That's why the players pay them, especially deals like this.
So I just didn't think there was any way there
was going to be a deal done without the agent
being involved. And then when when you talk publicly about that,
we're not even talking to the agent. To me, that
just stokes the fire and that just doesn't help things
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at all. So hopefully I can get things smoothed out
first with the player, with the agent, they work on
it from there. They still have a good amount of
time before opening day, but you just you want to
get this done.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I know Michael Parson does not need every snap in
practice right now, but we do need some to get
ready to play. For opening Day. You don't want to
just run out there and then god forbid you have
like a soft pitchue injury or something that because you weren't,
you know, fully participating. So we'll see that where that
plays out. But it is taking a lot longer than
I had anticipated right now, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, it does. Why Why do you think so many
teams played there guys in the first preseason game more
so than the past.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know what, That's funny because I, you know, just
watching these games, I was able to watch more of
them that I typically would be able to when I
was a GM, but I noticed a lot more starters
playing as well. I was actually gonna go through and
just do some work to see if that's true or not.
But at least by my eye, I think more teams
played their starters. It kind of goes and ebbs and flows.
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I mean, there's there's there's no one perfect way to
do it, but obviously I think some teams are doing
it hopefully to get a quicker start in September. And
I know that's why the Bengals did it. Get their
guys some more work, some more live work, and but
I can tell you all it takes is one star
player to get hurt in the preseason game, and the
coaches will will turn it around and they'll start they'll
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start not playing their guys again. So, like I said,
I think it goes up and down. I think I
think it probably depends where your team is. That's a
big part of it, where your team is on the
developmental scale. But yeah, I noticed the same thing. More
starters playing than usual, which was great for me. It
was fun to watch some more frontline guys playing the preseason.
Is this going to be a trend. I don't know.
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We'll see, But like I said, I'll take this one
injury and it's going to flip the other way around.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, you thought that the work that guys getting practice
against other teams was better than the preseason games.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I did, just because you could control it more, You
can work on specific situations. You knew it was ones
versus ones because some of the preseason games this past weekend,
a team may have been playing their ones against somebody's
twos and threes, and that's not going to be as
good as work. So yeah, I did like the combined practices.
The intensity level was much higher than a regular practice.
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You're going against a different defense. You're going against their starters.
But you can control it. I mean you can still
go live. Well what you call which is you know
you're gonna fit up, you're gonna hit. It's not gonna
take people to the ground, And hopefully the more people
that stay off the ground, there's less chance for an
injury where somebody just rolls into somebody's ankle or rolls
into somebody's knee. So a lot of teams are doing
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one and some people are doing two practices with other teams.
I think that's great. I would prefer that in a
preseason game, but again, everybody kind of looks at it
a little bit differently.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Tammy, you're the best man. Thanks so much for your
time in joining us. Look forward to our visit next
week and being our guest on Fox Sports Radio anytime.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
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NFL national NFL writer for the Athletics, gonna join us
next hour. Well, uh, we'll get a bunch of his thoughts.
We got love and Hate coming in the top of
the hour as well. I hope you had a great weekend. Uh,
boys are all kind of scattered this week, right, We
got I Low, we got Ryan b. But it's a
it's a different We got profet on the ones and twos,
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so it's a good show. Like I'm not trying to
diminish any of our guys, but the crew is kind
of I have I think Dan Patrick Thursday right, and
Colin Cowherd Friday. Guys are bouncing around. I think Buyer's
doing Covena and Rich. So, Uh, that's kind of the
right now is we get ready for football season? By
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Dan Patrick. They take a week off, they get refreshed.
I got a couple of days off from take next week.
We're all gonna get ready, be ready to go Week
one of the NFL and college football season. Let's get
to a game with isac Loacrin.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Haylo what he got.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
But all right, Doug, it's time to deal you in
big deal, little deal, no deal. Adam Schefter reports that
there have been zero discussions between Dallas Cowboys star linebacker
Micah Parsons. No discussions between him and the Cowboys owned
(27:54):
by this guy, Michael Parson. No discussions Parsons and the
Cowboys since his trade demand radio silence. A big deal,
little deal or no deal.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I think it's I think it's a big deal because
it shows they're not trading him. He's gonna be a Cowboy.
Anybody thinks otherwise.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Silly Michael Parson.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
All right, now, whatever happened, at some point they had
an agreement so another one could be reached.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
I am a monkey saying I won't anyway, Los Angeles. See,
the thing is Jerry just keeps on porning in on
your show?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Am I still on line?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
All right? Be about Mexico.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
It's odd we have a never ending home of those things.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Now.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Over the weekend, Jacksonville Jaguars placekicker Cam Little kicked us
seventy yard field goal, the longest field goal in any
game of American football ever, breaking a record set by
it I'm not making this up Ove Johanson of Mighty
(29:16):
Abilene Christian the Wildcats, he kicked a sixty nine yard
field goal in nineteen seventy six. The problem is, obviously,
since it was not during a regular season game, it's
still not technically the NFL record. Cam Little seventy yard
field goal a big deal, little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I mean, how could it be a how could it
be anything other than a big deal?
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Well, his name is Little, that probably played into it.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, it's amazing deal. I mean it's like thoughts of
Sebastian Janakowski out there. That was crazy. That was outdoors too,
isn't it. Yeah? I wonder what he does indoors.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
At the Old Oakland. Yeah, janakowskis was no?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I mean this weekend?
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny. You should mention
that that was a seventy six yard attempt by Janakowski
left footed back in the day. Next item a couple
from yesterday's preseason action. The continuing strong preseason by Los
Angeles Charger quarterback Trey Lance twenty out of thirty four
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for one to seventy five, two touchdowns and no interceptions
in the preseason and yesterday against the Saints. He was
also the Chargers leading rusher, averting seventy yards of carry.
He had a touchdown run, and he also converted three
third downs with runs. Trey Lance of the preseason big deal,
little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Uh little deal? I mean again, like it's it's why
I'm not freaking out about the shador Sanders look good,
but lots of quarterbacks have looked good. Trey Lances look good,
and I don't think Tree Lance is particularly good.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Speaking of quarterbacks. For the same game, the New Orleans
Saints current quarterback room has a grand total of seven
career NFL starts.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Ra A.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Carr, who had retired in May, had one hundred and
sixty nine well yesterday in their side of the ball
against the Chargers. In the preseason game, rookie second round pick,
Tyler Shuck completed fifteen of twenty two for one sixty five,
had a bad pick six against him, but also through
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a pretty good look in fifty four yard touchdown pass.
So Tyler Shuck's performance for the Saints B D or l.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
U B L or M sorry, a little deal. Little deal,
I mean, I would say the the biggest thing for Shuck.
You know, Shuck was in college football for like seven
years or something. Uh huh, you know, so it's not
like he's that inexperienced, and he's pretty talented. He had
a really bad injury I think two years ago, trying
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to think you when he use it at Texas Tech.
But it's a little deal because again, all of these
great performances were made by quarterbacks who we don't we
assume won't play much or at all for their teams.
So maybe it diminishes on some level what we love
with with Isha Door Sanders.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
I still can't get it out of my mind that
for two years Tyler Shuck was actually a teammate of
Justin Herbert's at Oregon. If you can believe that now
twenty five years old and welcome to the modern college
football world. All right, Doug let's stay in Los Angeles
and go to baseball where. Over the weekend and what
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was billed as a potential World Series matchup, the defending
world champion Los Angeles Dodgers took two out of three
from the Toronto Blue Jays. Jays salvaged the finale yesterday
five to four, but the Dodgers outscored them fourteen to
two in the first two games of the series. The
Dodgers taking two of three from Toronto over the weekend.
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Big deal, little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I think it's a big deal if you consider it
where they were a month ago, really struggling. Any series
wins a big one, big deal.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Indeed, going to the other end of the country, same sports,
let's find out if the perspective is different.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Here.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
The city of New York in a baseball panic because
the Yankees and Mets have combined for three wins total
in the month of August. Starts spreading the news only
three wins so far on August. Big deal, little deal
or no deal?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Uh, that's a big deal. I mean. And if you
who was it who tried to throw the ball yesterday
for the Yankees and it was like cue the Benny
Heel music where he dropped the baseball like that. Stuff
is crazy, crazy crazy.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
It's been yeah, it's it's been a regular thing. Those
highlights of Yankee fundamental miscus on social media onto those.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Who Tom Imanski, Oh, I know, yeah, he had that
team that back to back.
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Back to back to back. Now we never knew what
exactly they were champions of. We just knew that they
were back to back to back. Now we have an update.
Mister a Manski is now seventy seven years old, by
the way, But I think one of the critical things
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his endorsement, which carried a certain cachet. Now I just
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Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, so good, so good? Okay, back to back a back.
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day I've never heard of. So they could be the
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distant of big deal, little deal, or no deal. The
NBA's opening night schedule has been announced in advance. It'll
be the Rockets at the Thunder, and then the Lakers
hosting the Golden State Warriors. Big Deal, Little Deal or
No Deal?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Big Deal? Kevin Rant back in Kevin Rerant back in
Oklahoma City and Steph Curry in LA.
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This Big Deal and So concludes a back to back
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got football games to discuss, all right, NFL quarterbacks to discuss,
maybe a little maybe a little baseball. I don't see
a bunch of that in the rundown because I don't know.
I just we have Did I mention we have NFL
football going on right now? Did did I mention?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So cool to be sitting down in a sports bar
and to see and to see NFL football. I'd like
the NFL is so brilliant in their branding, you know.
I just I can't get over how it can sighted.
I am. Are you guys like that? Well, we told
you that Friday would be potentially a day of reckoning
(01:08):
for one side or the other, and this is sort
of what we do, right It's it's like the Sydney
Sweeney thing from last week. Nobody I know who actually
matters in this world was like offended by the jeans
ad but the right brilliantly found a way. Okay, you
find a couple of tweets from some crazy people, like, look,
(01:29):
there's three hundred fifty million people in the United States,
half of one percent is still over a million and
a half people. All it takes is a couple tweets
here or there, and you're like, oh, got the liberals, Hey,
you hate Sidney Sweeney. Cue all the dancing sorority girls, right,
And it becomes an either or like you either have
(01:50):
to you have to love women showing that which I
think most people do showing their bodies in tasteful ways,
or you have to be anti anything, which is a
super small percentage of people. But again, you take a
couple of people, a couple of tweats. It's the same
thing with Shadoor Sanders. You're like, what, yeah, hey, nobody
(02:14):
said shad Or Sanders stunk like those words were never
But he clearly rubbed a lot of people the wrong
way with how he presented himself, how he interacted with
people during the pre draft process. Very obvious. You factor
in that with a limited number of teams who felt
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like they wanted to invest in a quarterback this year,
you know, because first round of investing it and then
it became kind of a snowball effect. But this is
you're made to feel like you're either pro Schoud Door Sanders,
which there definitely are pro shudor Sanders, but there's lots
of people that are pro Schaud Door Sanders just because
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they feel like it's the man keeping him down. It's
so weird, right, Here's a kid that comes from wealth,
it's played for his dad that's been really good, and
we make it out like he was walking backwards uphill
in snow twenty mile an hour, winds in his face
(03:18):
at every possible opportunity. But you do have some anti
Chador Sanders sentiment only in that dude really play football well,
then if you want to have the entourage you can.
He puts cart while ahead of horse. But it's not
like there's a bunch of people going he stinks he
(03:39):
can't play. He's awful that that never occurred. But again,
people who are pro Shaudoor much will make you think
that's what the narrative was. It wasn't it was hold
it a little along. Not a great athlete, really accurate,
not a great arm and some entitlement there. You're like,
(04:03):
all right, like that's a reasonable scant report. Well, he
goes out and he plays really well after kind of
a shaky first I think two drives with the Cleveland Browns,
and after the game he was shut or on his performance.
Do you feel like you did something today to move
up the depth chart?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I honestly don't know, and I don't really care. You know,
whenever it's my turn and I just gotta take avertens
of it. I feel like, you know, today I did
some good, some bad, and I know moving forward, you
know I won't make the same mistakes twice. Does not
am I going throw? And you know, regardless of whatever
the situation, it does not up to me, and it
is what it is. I just got to, you know,
(04:42):
accept whatever whatever everything come with.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay. So that's Shador Sanders. There's some you know, old
time cliches in there, but like, let's let's not nitpick.
He's an NFL rookie. He handled all the questions really well.
I don't think he needed to go and confront a
Cleveland Reporter about than negativity. All you do is negativity
or whatever. Just go play football. The rest takes care
of itself. It really does. It does. But he's seen
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his dad do that, and that's how he carries himself.
You know, my son carries himself much like I do.
People say that all the time. Now your son, he's
got your manners, say he's my son. That's actually how
it kind of works. So you know, I land on
this thing going he look good, re look good. The
question becomes you know, I love and I loved his
(05:32):
answer about I won't make the same mistakes twice. That's
what sports is about. That's what experience is about. Anybody
can have experience. But are you continuing to make the
same mistakes over and over and over and over again,
or you are you evolving? And he'll play against better defenses.
(05:54):
You know, he'll play with better players as well, like
they didn't play all their starters. And I'm just not so.
But who's gonna sit here and freak out because I've
seen this enough and this is what we do. We're
just as guilty of it in the media as anybody else.
We make it out to should or stinks or should
door is awesome and everybody's got it wrong. Whereas my
take is I thought he's pretty good, but god, he's arrogant,
(06:18):
and I just imagine blowing off your dream job interview
time and again and then being surprised when you don't
get the job. That's not how I operate, not how
anybody I know operates. But to this test, he passed,
and please don't sit here and say pass with flying colors.
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We don't know even by his own estimations, he made mistakes.
It's is he on an upper trajectory? Will he get better?
And honestly, what really matters is the guys in that
locker room. If they buy into him, it doesn't matter
what we think. If they will kill for him, it
doesn't matter what we think. The thing that turned a
lot of NFL scout off was not just how he
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was in those meetings. It was also the fact that
there was a feeling that, you know, everybody played for him,
not with him. You know, when the offensive line broke down,
you know that that there would be hell to pay,
because whereas when he made a mistake, there would not.
You know, there's always the assumption of daddy ball, whether
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it exists or doesn't exist. Playing for your father. I
get it. It's very difficult. Shador passed, probably failed with
the onentourage thing and was in that negative with confronting
a local reporter. What's the point, you know, go play
win games, get the team behind you, get the coach
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to buy in, and when you get your opportunity, kick ass.
That's all you can do. But I I just this
is this is Lamar Jackson. People are like, well, Lamar Jackson.
They said he couldn't throw, Like, no, he wasn't accurate
as a thrower in college. He's really improved. Josh Allen
not accurate as a thrower in college, made some adjustments
now is improved. And I'm not putting him in that.
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I'm not putting him in with those guys because I
don't think he has the arm of those guys. But
if you want to know what people really thought, they
thought he was good. They're like, man, there had to
be something going on, and there was in those interviews.
And he's not a plus athlete. He doesn't have a
plus plus arm. He's plus plus in accuracy and he's
played a lot of football. He's got a high football IQ.
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My take on Shure was he was as good or
better than most people would hope. But it's just a step.
And it also shows the old Dylan Gabriel your best
part of your best ability is availability, and he got
left behind. It's a hard one to come back from.
Hard one. Lots more to come in the Doug Gottlieb
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Athletic Tom Telesco will join us. Upcoming in fifteen minutes, Yeah,
fifteen minutes to LESCo will join us. Course, he's the
former gentlem manager of the La Chargers and of the
Las Vegas Raiders. But up next, what's going on? Matt
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Stafford was supposed to practice day make like some crazy
number of throws and now not throwing. Will Matt Stafford
play for the Rams this year? Give you my thoughts
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He's still moving. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
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he and Mark Dominic. I mean Mark obviously he's done
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course Tom for eleven years general manager of the San
Diego and La Chargers and last year the Las Vegas Raiders.
Everyone's talking about Shador Sanders' performance from a general manager's perspective.
What'd you see?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, I can see, you know, Andrew Barry, the gem
of the brown sitting back and at least saying the
traits that we saw in college really showed up in
the game. And that's that's you know, you know, big
time poison in the pocket. Like nothing ever rattles them,
whether there's pressure, whether it's you know, somebody gets getting
beat up front. And he's really accurate with the football,
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and especially down in the red zone. Redszones at the
hardest place to be accurate because those windows are really tight,
like everything happens faster, and he shows you can footballs
in tight spaces. So you know, there's still things to
work on. Like, you don't like to see him retreated
as much as he does. Sometimes they go make a play,
but that's kind of like the playmaker mentality that he has.
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But you know, I'm proud of him to go through
this process where obviously he thought he's going to be
drafted higher. He wasn't. He was drafted in the fifth round.
He goes in, he's one of four quarterbacks competing. So
when you have four quarterbacks, you know in a competition
there aren't going to be that many snaps. And all
he's gone is take him every snaps he has and
trying to make him count and then he gets in
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the game and really produce. So we'll see where weeks
two and three go. But to me, he's earned a chance,
you know, to play a little bit more, hopefully get
out there with the ones a little bit and show
what he can do. But I feel very comfortable to
the fact that what he saw in college he saw
at least on the professional field. I know his preseason,
but he saw that same thing.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Uh what what's he missing? Obviously there's the meetings and
some of the arrogance. I'm not sure he did a
lot to dispel that with the with the entourage, But
uh what what is he missing that doesn't allow those
things to be glossed over?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I don't know what he's missing. I mean, I wasn't,
you know, part of the very end process of the
scouting of the player. But I mean, he's played a
lot of football in college. He obviously has a good
feel for the game. For how he plays it now
is he's certainly I mean, he's picking up the Browns
offense and that's gonna take some work, there's no doubt
about that. But but you know, same with Dylan Gabriel
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and really same with Kenny Pickett because he's new to
that offense as well, and he's a young quarterback. So
but look, you know, he can stand in the pocket,
he can deliver the football, and he's accurate, and he's
a better athlete than people think. You know that, I
think to his athletic ability. I think when your dad,
Dion Standers, who is one of the best athletes on
the planet, I think people who hadn't seen should or
(13:17):
play disfigured he'd be able to run like his dad. Well,
you know, he's not his dad as far as an
athlete and speak a concerned but he's still plenty athletic,
athoughtic enough to get out go get a chunky yards
when he has to. He can still slide around and
move in the pocket, find an open area and make
a throw. So he's got a lot of things going
for him, and now it's just about turning into a
pro quarterback and getting getting a hold of the offense.
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And I think he's gonna be fine in the end.
Will up you this year? I don't know, but I
think you know he'll be a starter at some point
in this league.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Jackson Dark
one preseason game in what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I like what I saw, I really did. And he's
another one. You know, when you watch players play in college,
you're projecting their trades at the next level, and sometimes
they translated, sometimes they do not. And Jack did a
lot of same things you saw in college. You saw
in his first pre season game. He's very athletic, he's tough,
he can go run with the football. There are probably
(14:15):
a couple of players you probably should have slid, he didn't.
He kind of brings that moxie to the offense. And
one of the biggest things you saw in college with
him is he can hang in the pocket, burst pressure
and make a throw and take a hit and still
deliver the ball on time with accuracy. And he showed
that more than a couple of times. You know, whatever,
I think he played maybe a half of football, So
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I'd love to see that, like the bull get out
of his hand quickly and is extremely tough. So again,
you're seeing the same things you saw in college with him,
and as a general manager when you draft the players,
that's what you're hoping. You're hoping that transition isn't going
to be as big as you would think you're projecting forward.
But the things that I saw with him, I thought
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they were pretty impressive. Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
I know J. J.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
McCarthy didn't play a lot, but you also evowed him
going back to last year for in the draft. What
are your thoughts on the Vikings and young quarterback?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, you know, when I was with the Raiders last year,
we had a chance. We played them in the preseason
and he played in that game before he got hurt,
and he played extremely well against us. He moved the team.
He's a really good athlete. He's got a good seat,
made a couple of big throws, but he just hasn't
played a lot of football yet, and missing all of
last year due to injury, where you're doing a lot
(15:32):
more rehab than you're doing anything practice wise, it just
it just sets them back a little bit. But He
made a couple of decent throws the other day, just
didn't play a lot of snaps in the preseason game.
So right now it's just him trying to get up
the speed with the offense and with Kevin O'Connell, which
which I think that's a good combination I have when
when Kevin o'coonins were head coach and kind of see
(15:55):
how that that plays along. And he's not. He's a
difficult situation just because there that's fourteen win team last year,
so this is not like this is not a rebuild,
a retool. This team's built to win right now, you know,
with their offense and their defense. So he's gonna have
to me bring up his game kind of push. He
pushed him along, but I just think it's gonna take
(16:16):
a little bit of time even into the fall to
kind of get him into the mix, just because he
missed so much. He's essentially a rookie right now, but
not is he a rookie, but he missed all of
last year of just development, practice and playing. So we'll
see more from him, assuming he'll play more in preseason
two to kind of get him ready for opening day.
But the skills are there, He's just gonna have to
(16:37):
take some time.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Tom Telesco is our guest year on the Doug gott
Leave Show on Fox Sports Radio. Course. Tom was most
recently the gem manager of the Las Vegas Rangers. Before that,
he's gump managered of the La Chargers. Chargers tough news
last week, Shaan Slater, who you drafted at Northwestern Star
left tackle, was a Pro Bowler. Is his rookie season right,
(17:00):
and it all pro as well? And he ruptured his
Patel attendant. Uh, give me your outlook for their what's
their offensive line look like in front of Justin Herbert
considering how much they want to run the football?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I mean, I still think they'll be okay, and
they're obviously not going to be as good. I mean,
they had to probably the best tackle duo in the
league with with Rashawan and Joe Walt, and but you
know they can move Joe Walt to left tackle, which
they already have in practice, So he'll move over to left.
Joe Walt's gonna be a Pro Bowl tackle, if not
this year, real real soon they can put Trade Pitkins
(17:38):
the right tackle who has played a lot of football.
I know that you know there'll be a drop off
from Joe Walt to Trade Tipkins. I realize that, but
you know there's things you can do with the offense
to chip to help to know where you may have
to give a little help on one side of the
of the line. But so I think they can survive this.
Obviously not going to be as dominant as they thought
(17:59):
they were going going to be. They're losing a big
time players. It's it's it's really difficult to see you
a guy that just you know, Rashana just signed that deal.
He's ready to go. They're built with the offensive line
to see him go down. It's difficult, I know, But
I still think they think they can be okay. Thank
god they've got Old to move over there there on
the left side and kind of keep it moving. They'll
(18:22):
have to change up a little bit, probably with headwear,
ends up being the right tackle. Makai Becton's play tackle.
I think he's a better guard than tackle. To my thoughts,
is a guest that they'll probably just leave him at
guard and put him next to Trap Tipkins. I guess
we'll kind of see. As he worked through the preseason.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Uh, Tom Pelusco is our guest here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. You know you were
we were talking earlier about about quarterbacks. Uh, the Matt
Stafford thing. So Matt Stafford's not going to practice today.
Multiple ports said Stafford's in street and has entered into
(19:01):
the wellness chamber before the session. He's got this disk
issue in his back. I put you in charge of
the LA Raiders. What do you do? I mean, La Rams,
what do you do?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
My first question is what's the wellness chamber? I think
I could use that. Yeah, I don't even know what
that is. Look, I mean I'd be concerned about it obviously.
You know, an older quarterback with the back issue that
seems like it's been lingering a little bit here. It's
certainly a concern. You know, they've got Jimmy Garoppolo, who's uh,
(19:36):
you know, a veteran quarterback, makes quick decisions, get the ball,
he gets the ball out of his hands, he can
move the team. But again, my concerns there is, you know,
he's had his own injury issues with with the Patriots
and with the forty nine ers and then even with
the Raiders. So you know, obviously he can go and
he can start and get them through. I just worry
about if something happened to him. So just the other day,
(19:57):
Set and Benett played a majority of the game to
try and get him some work to theism hadn't played
football in over a year. So they're trying to probably
put their plan being Plan SEES together. Obviously Stafford's Plan A.
He played at such a high level last year, which
is really remarkable for where he is in his career.
But you're going to have to have some different plans
(20:18):
ready to go just in case this doesn't go where
they wanted to go. And that's that's the concern is,
you know, back to unpredictable and he's in an age
that it's a little bit harder to come back from
these injuries, you know, despite what his toughness level is.
So that's what their whole preseason is going to be
about right now, is figuring out what's Plan B if
for some chance he's not ready for opening day or
(20:39):
he's ready for opening day, but maybe it's hurt in
the middle of the season. But it's certainly something to watch.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Oh, I don't I don't think there's any question is
something to watch Micah Parsons, You know what, what's the
reality to how deals are done? Right? Because what we've
gotten was they had some sort of agreement but no
agent involved. And Dave mcgett is a powerful agent, he's
his agent. H best. Guess what what do you think
(21:07):
happened there?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I don't know, because the agent is always going to
be involved. You're just you're never going to do a
deal that's a deal to this magnitude without the agent
being part of the process. And you know, maybe they've
done things a little bit differently in Dallas, but I
don't think they've done very many times. I mean, I'm
sure they've talked to players through the contract process, which
isn't common but some some teams may do that. But
the agent is always going to be a part of it.
(21:31):
So at this point, I just think it's number one,
he had to repair the relationships first. And you know,
I'm just speculating that that it needs to be repaired,
but it sure sounds like it if they're not even
speaking right now, if that is true. So number one,
repair the relationship with the player in the agent, and
then then and then the second part is they have to,
(21:51):
you know, work on the numbers part of it. That
should be the easier part. But number one, you just
got to get everybody on the same page, in the
same room. I don't know where they are right now.
I just have no feel for this. It's a different
type of situation that I've seen with the team just
trying to just directly dealing with the player. Which there's
a reason why players have agents, and the agents do
(22:13):
this for a living. They negotiate hundreds upon thousands of
contracts and the players use them for guidance and advice.
That's why the players pay them, especially deals like this.
So I just didn't think there was any way there
was going to be a deal done without the agent
being involved. And then when when you talk publicly about that,
we're not even talking to the agent. To me, that
just stokes the fire and that just doesn't help things
(22:35):
at all. So hopefully I can get things smoothed out
first with the player, with the agent, they work on
it from there. They still have a good amount of
time before opening day, but you just you want to
get this done.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I know Michael Parson does not need every snap in
practice right now, but we do need some to get
ready to play. For opening Day. You don't want to
just run out there and then god forbid you have
like a soft pitchue injury or something that because you weren't,
you know, fully participating. So we'll see that where that
plays out. But it is taking a lot longer than
I had anticipated right now, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, it does. Why Why do you think so many
teams played there guys in the first preseason game more
so than the past.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
You know what, That's funny because I, you know, just
watching these games, I was able to watch more of
them that I typically would be able to when I
was a GM, but I noticed a lot more starters
playing as well. I was actually gonna go through and
just do some work to see if that's true or not.
But at least by my eye, I think more teams
played their starters. It kind of goes and ebbs and flows.
(23:37):
I mean, there's there's there's no one perfect way to
do it, but obviously I think some teams are doing
it hopefully to get a quicker start in September. And
I know that's why the Bengals did it. Get their
guys some more work, some more live work, and but
I can tell you all it takes is one star
player to get hurt in the preseason game, and the
coaches will will turn it around and they'll start they'll
(23:59):
start not playing their guys again. So, like I said,
I think it goes up and down. I think I
think it probably depends where your team is. That's a
big part of it, where your team is on the
developmental scale. But yeah, I noticed the same thing. More
starters playing than usual, which was great for me. It
was fun to watch some more frontline guys playing the preseason.
Is this going to be a trend. I don't know.
(24:20):
We'll see, But like I said, I'll take this one
injury and it's going to flip the other way around.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, you thought that the work that guys getting practice
against other teams was better than the preseason games.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I did, just because you could control it more, You
can work on specific situations. You knew it was ones
versus ones because some of the preseason games this past weekend,
a team may have been playing their ones against somebody's
twos and threes, and that's not going to be as
good as work. So yeah, I did like the combined practices.
The intensity level was much higher than a regular practice.
(24:51):
You're going against a different defense. You're going against their starters.
But you can control it. I mean you can still
go live. Well what you call which is you know
you're gonna fit up, you're gonna hit. It's not gonna
take people to the ground, And hopefully the more people
that stay off the ground, there's less chance for an
injury where somebody just rolls into somebody's ankle or rolls
into somebody's knee. So a lot of teams are doing
(25:14):
one and some people are doing two practices with other teams.
I think that's great. I would prefer that in a
preseason game, but again, everybody kind of looks at it
a little bit differently.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Tammy, you're the best man. Thanks so much for your
time in joining us. Look forward to our visit next
week and being our guest on Fox Sports Radio anytime.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Doug, take care.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
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Mm hmmm. Oh, got a good game up coming. Mike Jones,
(26:18):
NFL national NFL writer for the Athletics, gonna join us
next hour. Well, uh, we'll get a bunch of his thoughts.
We got love and Hate coming in the top of
the hour as well. I hope you had a great weekend. Uh,
boys are all kind of scattered this week, right, We
got I Low, we got Ryan b. But it's a
it's a different We got profet on the ones and twos,
(26:40):
so it's a good show. Like I'm not trying to
diminish any of our guys, but the crew is kind
of I have I think Dan Patrick Thursday right, and
Colin Cowherd Friday. Guys are bouncing around. I think Buyer's
doing Covena and Rich. So, Uh, that's kind of the
right now is we get ready for football season? By
(27:00):
Dan Patrick. They take a week off, they get refreshed.
I got a couple of days off from take next week.
We're all gonna get ready, be ready to go Week
one of the NFL and college football season. Let's get
to a game with isac Loacrin.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Haylo what he got.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
But all right, Doug, it's time to deal you in
big deal, little deal, no deal. Adam Schefter reports that
there have been zero discussions between Dallas Cowboys star linebacker
Micah Parsons. No discussions between him and the Cowboys owned
(27:54):
by this guy, Michael Parson. No discussions Parsons and the
Cowboys since his trade demand radio silence. A big deal,
little deal or no deal.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I think it's I think it's a big deal because
it shows they're not trading him. He's gonna be a Cowboy.
Anybody thinks otherwise.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Silly Michael Parson.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
All right, now, whatever happened, at some point they had
an agreement so another one could be reached.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
I am a monkey saying I won't anyway, Los Angeles. See,
the thing is Jerry just keeps on porning in on
your show?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Am I still on line?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
All right? Be about Mexico.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
It's odd we have a never ending home of those things.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Now.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Over the weekend, Jacksonville Jaguars placekicker Cam Little kicked us
seventy yard field goal, the longest field goal in any
game of American football ever, breaking a record set by
it I'm not making this up Ove Johanson of Mighty
(29:16):
Abilene Christian the Wildcats, he kicked a sixty nine yard
field goal in nineteen seventy six. The problem is, obviously,
since it was not during a regular season game, it's
still not technically the NFL record. Cam Little seventy yard
field goal a big deal, little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I mean, how could it be a how could it
be anything other than a big deal?
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Well, his name is Little, that probably played into it.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, it's amazing deal. I mean it's like thoughts of
Sebastian Janakowski out there. That was crazy. That was outdoors too,
isn't it. Yeah? I wonder what he does indoors.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
At the Old Oakland. Yeah, janakowskis was no?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I mean this weekend?
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny. You should mention
that that was a seventy six yard attempt by Janakowski
left footed back in the day. Next item a couple
from yesterday's preseason action. The continuing strong preseason by Los
Angeles Charger quarterback Trey Lance twenty out of thirty four
(30:18):
for one to seventy five, two touchdowns and no interceptions
in the preseason and yesterday against the Saints. He was
also the Chargers leading rusher, averting seventy yards of carry.
He had a touchdown run, and he also converted three
third downs with runs. Trey Lance of the preseason big deal,
little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Uh little deal? I mean again, like it's it's why
I'm not freaking out about the shador Sanders look good,
but lots of quarterbacks have looked good. Trey Lances look good,
and I don't think Tree Lance is particularly good.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Speaking of quarterbacks. For the same game, the New Orleans
Saints current quarterback room has a grand total of seven
career NFL starts.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Ra A.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Carr, who had retired in May, had one hundred and
sixty nine well yesterday in their side of the ball
against the Chargers. In the preseason game, rookie second round pick,
Tyler Shuck completed fifteen of twenty two for one sixty five,
had a bad pick six against him, but also through
(31:22):
a pretty good look in fifty four yard touchdown pass.
So Tyler Shuck's performance for the Saints B D or l.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
U B L or M sorry, a little deal. Little deal,
I mean, I would say the the biggest thing for Shuck.
You know, Shuck was in college football for like seven
years or something. Uh huh, you know, so it's not
like he's that inexperienced, and he's pretty talented. He had
a really bad injury I think two years ago, trying
(31:55):
to think you when he use it at Texas Tech.
But it's a little deal because again, all of these
great performances were made by quarterbacks who we don't we
assume won't play much or at all for their teams.
So maybe it diminishes on some level what we love
with with Isha Door Sanders.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
I still can't get it out of my mind that
for two years Tyler Shuck was actually a teammate of
Justin Herbert's at Oregon. If you can believe that now
twenty five years old and welcome to the modern college
football world. All right, Doug let's stay in Los Angeles
and go to baseball where. Over the weekend and what
(32:32):
was billed as a potential World Series matchup, the defending
world champion Los Angeles Dodgers took two out of three
from the Toronto Blue Jays. Jays salvaged the finale yesterday
five to four, but the Dodgers outscored them fourteen to
two in the first two games of the series. The
Dodgers taking two of three from Toronto over the weekend.
(32:53):
Big deal, little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I think it's a big deal if you consider it
where they were a month ago, really struggling. Any series
wins a big one, big deal.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
Indeed, going to the other end of the country, same sports,
let's find out if the perspective is different.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Here.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
The city of New York in a baseball panic because
the Yankees and Mets have combined for three wins total
in the month of August. Starts spreading the news only
three wins so far on August. Big deal, little deal
or no deal?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Uh, that's a big deal. I mean. And if you
who was it who tried to throw the ball yesterday
for the Yankees and it was like cue the Benny
Heel music where he dropped the baseball like that. Stuff
is crazy, crazy crazy.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
It's been yeah, it's it's been a regular thing. Those
highlights of Yankee fundamental miscus on social media onto those.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Who Tom Imanski, Oh, I know, yeah, he had that
team that back to back.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Back to back to back. Now we never knew what
exactly they were champions of. We just knew that they
were back to back to back. Now we have an update.
Mister a Manski is now seventy seven years old, by
the way, But I think one of the critical things
(34:28):
there was that Fred McGriff was proud to give them
his endorsement, which carried a certain cachet. Now I just
remember the guys doing the drills. In fact, would you
like a quick flashback to Tom Emanski which will thrill
anybody in our generation who's listening to the audience. All right,
here we go. Here's what we're talking about. The Tom
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Speaker 5 (34:54):
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(35:15):
and the same defensive drills used by Baseball World's back
to back nineteen ninety ninety one AU Nashville championship teams.
Lu Pavlovitch, junior editor of Collatia Baseball Magazine, calls it
a masterpiece, the best defensive drill video ever produced. San
Diego Potre's Major League superstar Fredma griff agreeds.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I'm so impressed with the first videos by coach Damaski,
but I've given them my full endorsement.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
When you watch them, you will know why hosbol.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Does that break back memories or what?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, so good, so good? Okay, back to back a back.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
And it was something called Baseball World, which to this
day I've never heard of. So they could be the
only team in Baseball World final item on there's a
distant of big deal, little deal, or no deal. The
NBA's opening night schedule has been announced in advance. It'll
be the Rockets at the Thunder, and then the Lakers
hosting the Golden State Warriors. Big Deal, Little Deal or
No Deal?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Big Deal? Kevin Rant back in Kevin Rerant back in
Oklahoma City and Steph Curry in LA.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
This Big Deal and So concludes a back to back
to back edition of Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deale.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Game.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
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