January 13, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug talks about the report that the Dallas Cowboys and Mike McCarthy were not able to agree on a contract, leaving McCarthy a free agent. Doug explains how this is an example of the fact that sometime relationships just came to an end. FSR NFL Insider Adam Caplan joins Doug to discuss the Packers-Eagles game, AJ Brown reading on the sidelines, Mike McCarthy and all of the other major news around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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stuff to get to. I mean, heck, when we last
joined The Doug Gottlieb Show, we were getting ready for Texas.
Texas Take it on, Ohio State. Congratulations to the Buckeyes.
Dan Bayer's Dan Buyer's prediction came true. The Buckey's defense
comes through late and they get a huge win. And
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it also proves those on social media who have now
latched onto like chess and Herbert's bad because he played
that in one game. Those are the same Ryan Day
people now they go by the wayside. But we haven't
even talked since then. We got that in the show. Obviously,
Saturday's NFL games seem like they're like six or seven
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days ago. Like when was it that the Steelers got
lamb basted by the Ravens yad That was Saturday. Same
thing with the Chargers game whatever. Saturday. Sunday we got
to get to the Eagles and what was a terrible
call but an equally awful beginning for the Green Bay
Packers leads to their dismantling at the hands of the
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Eagles and all the bizarreness with the aj brown stuff,
and then of course late last night you get a
joint made field goal as the Commanders. It's actually the
first playoff win ever for the Commanders because they haven't
been the Commanders for long. And when they have an
incredible win, Jane Daniels continues to impress everybody with his poise,
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his leadership, and his throwing and his legs in that game,
and what was the best game of the weekend ends
up being the last game of the weekend. But of course,
the Cowboys being the Cowboys, let's get to the Cowboys
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Tway Tired buying should be Look. I know a lot
about my sport. I know a lot about coaching. I'm
learning as I go. My team did. We fought hard
and lost to our rival in Milwaukee this past weekend.
The losing does continue, but we keep getting better. Anyone
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who actually watches the games can see like, oh, young team,
seven freshmen, they're getting better. This is not excuses. Again.
I had to fix some things that fell by the
wayside during our preseason even during the season. But I
do feel like we are on an upward trajectory. And
the great thing about my job is look at our level.
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What really matters this March and with this program. I
was hired with the designs of building it so it's
sustainable for the long term. And even my boss knows
based upon when I got the job. Like I can't
create a wine out of water, I gotta slowly churn
a little butter day after day after day. That's not
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the Dallas Cowboys job. Dallas Cowboys job is hey, Jerry
Jones wants to win a championship. Every job is different,
every expectation level is different. And so when Mike McCarthy
was let go today, I think there's a lot of
people like, WHOA, that stinks. That's bad juju what the
Cowboys did, because remember last week the Bears asked to
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talk to Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys like, nah, he's
our guy. And then you're like, wait, why did they
fire him today? What do you think? What do you think? Well,
he wasn't fired. Wasn't fired. His contract expired. They couldn't
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come to an agreement on an extension. In case you
might say, well that's being fired sort of. Or Cowboys
did want to keep him as their coach, but they
didn't want to give in to a long term deal
that makes sense, like eh, And the truth is that
I think this move should have been made last year.
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Mi McArthur is a good football coach, he's a good
play caller. Dak Prescott really likes him. But if you're
not willing to part ways with Dak Prescott for his
playoff ineptitude. Well, then my thought was, why don't you
hire a coach who's had much more success in the
playoffs because Karthy has made some ill fated decisions, some
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game clock management issues, and two years ago Niners, last
year Packers some embarrassing losses that really it was their
offense and their turnovers that undid them. That's fair, isn't it.
And so Jerry wasn't lying when he was like, yeah,
one back. You know, Jerry also said talk to him ever,
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Like wait, he said, talk to him ever, and then
they wouldn't let him talk to the bears, and then
they part company like a couple days later. So again
without talking to anybody in the in the building with
the Cowboys, what probably happened, and again all the details
will slowly come out over time, is they said, all right, like,
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let's find an extension, and Mike McCarthy's probably like great,
three four years and they're like, yeah, no, we didn't.
We want to do a year. See how it works
next year. And Mike mccarr was like, I'm not not
doing it for less than three years. Okay, you know
there's leverage there. What's your leverage if you're Mike McCarthy,
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I'll leave. Fine, we'll find somebody will. And so then
becomes the question of all, right, now, what now? Is
it fair that Mike McCarthy lost his job? Probably not,
you know, probably not. I don't think based upon what
Dak Prescott said, right, because Dak Prescott alluded to the
fact that the defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer, wasn't his choice.
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You know, he had Dan Quinn, and you look at
what dan Quinn's doing with Washington, You're like, man, they
lose one in dan Quinn. But what what Dak alluded
to is, hey, hold on, now, I like this guy.
He didn't get to choose Mike Zimmer, and Mike Zimmer
was a bad fit for the personnel, and it might
have been a bad fit for Mike McCarthy. So whether
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it's who gets to be my coordinators and who I
h and who I fire, or who I draft and
who I don't draft, or simply the length of contract,
it feels like this was say you know what, this
ain't gonna work. It's just not. And if I'm the
Dallas Cowboys, and you can go back and google it,
google me, go back and google it. Last year when
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they lost in the playoffs. I said, Mike McCarthy's a
good coach. He's done a good job. The Cowboys want
to win championships. And there's a coach out there who's
won more championships than any other coach, and he's available
hire him. This is easy. Now it gets a little
murky because he's got a head coaching job, but it's
ten million dollars to get him out of it. He
hasn't hired a full staff. You can easily move him over,
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and it would feel like Carolina got a raw deal.
Maybe he leaves his son in charge, which is the
plan all along, and only gets sped up. Or maybe
he takes his son with him. I don't know, and
I don't care. But for Mike McCarthy to walk away
is it's It's just like when you walk into a
car dealership. Man, you're like, yeah, I don't like this deal.
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I'm gonna walk from it. And once you walk out
of that door, you either have to be able to
get willing to get in your car and go home,
or get in your car and go home and somebody
else might come and buy that car, or just sign
your name and let's go. Look happened to Tyron Lou.
Tyron Lou wanted more than three years with the LA Lakers,
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and Rob Pulink is like, we're not giving anybody more
than three years. So Tyrone Lo's now the coach of
the Clippers. He's been the coach to the Clippers for
what the last six seven years. And Tyron Loo's really, really,
really good. But you know what he didn't get to do.
He didn't get to coach Lebron James, didn't get to
win another championship. Mike McCarthy could very easily get another job.
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He's won a Super Bowl, they were in the playoffs
all except for what this year with Cowboys, and they
get and they did well. And Dak Prescott, I'm sure
would call anybody and say, like, I love that guy,
I like playing for that guy. I used to hire
that guy. But he won't be the coach of the
Dallas Cowboys anymore. And there is something special to being
that head coach. I'm not surprised by it in the least.
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The only thing I'm surprised by is the fact that
they signed Dak Prescott to a long term deal, so
they're in that buy now, which there's zero possibility of
I don't believe of drafting Shador Sanders and bringing in
Dion Sanders, especially after Jerry Jones comments, which I do
think we're accurate about the true gift of Deon Sanders.
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His ability to recruit more so than his ability to coach,
would just I don't think it would work. But it's
me I said this last year. Your whole thing in
Dallas is we haven't won in the playoffs in forever,
and you have a guy who's won more in the
playoffs than anybody else. Why would't you hire Belichick? You know? Meanwhile,
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Mike Rabel's he's with the New England Patriots that was
broken yesterday and then of course he had the press
conference today. So you know, look, when you're a coach,
you don't like when anybody lose their job. But I'm
gonna guess that part of this was Mike McCarthy and
whether it's his ego or whether it's just the understanding,
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there's other jobs out there I can go get and
if you don't want to give me a three or
four year deal, I'd rather go and take some other
job and build another winner. Then I will stay here
in Dallas. When next year we might not have a
chance to win because there's so many holes on this
football team. And oh yeah, by the way, I don't
feel like I have a chance if I can't hire
the people that I want to hire to run my
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defense while I run the offense. So my read on
it is sometimes relationships just come to an end, business relationships,
personal relationships. And if it was as simple as Mike
McCarthy saying I want this defensive coordinator, I want this
number of years, I want this, this and this, and
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they said no, and he goes well, then I walk
and they go okay, then that's actually a mature end
to a relationship. Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
pH Byer, I know you were on air yesterday. You
guys had some really good stuff on air yesterday. As
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I was driving and listen to you guys. How much
of the hire you on from Ohio State winning.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
By the way, Oh that was magnificent. That was that
was truly something a crazy game. Sometimes the greatest games
just aren't perfect. There's greatness and then there's you know,
mistakes and everything involved. But yeah, that was top top
ten play I think for sure. In my lifetime, no
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doubt about it. In Ohio State history, the Sawyer sack
and returned.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Sawyer was so good, and he was so good. He's
been so good in the I mean he's just a
tremendous player. You know what he is. He's who Andy
Katzimware was supposed to be. How about that one? That
guy's That guy's a monster. I actually I have you know,
my dad was an Ohio State alum. I have no
true tire connection to high state football. I love watching
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thirty three play football, Like that kid plays so hard,
so hard.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of full circle. They played
different positions, obviously, but Ohio kids and Sawyer, so it
was a great basketball player.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, in high school, I saw I saw him Like
I was watching those videos this weekend. I was like, man,
can you imagine Sure matching up with him in high school?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
But being one of the guys that wanted to return,
obviously he was at the center of the Michigan flag
planting controversy and trying to rip that there's yeah, he is.
He will go down in Ohio State lore for what
has transpired over the last two months. Not that his
career wasn't great up to that point, but the chapters
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that have now been added, it's truly been remarkable. And
I said top ten it may even be it may
even be top five for how how crazy that was?
I mean Texas at the one yard line and then.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, and you know, it's it's really interesting on how
like I almost feel like social media and I love
just you know, like I have loved my time on
X and I'm not like one of these like I'm
moving away from X whatever, but I do feel like
I need to find a way to clean up my
algorithm for people that I actually think I because so
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many of these people like it's just bizarre opinions, you know,
it's like just bizarre, like what are we actually like?
That was a great football game. Texas lost my two touchdowns,
but I mean one of them is at the end's
returned for what are y from tying their yard away
from tying the game? It was a great game and
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a kid made a great play, and Ohio State's defense,
you know, his coach Jim Knowles, does an incredible job.
It's you know, like they they found a way. It
really was. It's one of those where score not indicative
of how competitive that football game was. Like I just
I watched. I have some of the same feelings with
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the with the Penn State Notre Dame game. We talked
about this on Friday, which is like, we go when
we crush these dudes as head coaches or quarterbacks, and
the truth is, it really comes down to one or
two plays. It wasn't like you know, the Indiana or
SMU or the Tennessee these blowouts. You know, it's like
it really came down to one or two plays. And
I don't care what the final score is whatever, Like
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somebody's not a choker, or somebody didn't choke because they
ran a play that you know that Sawyer blows up
because he's an unbelievable football player. You know, Like, what
are we actually doing here? I don't know. I enjoyed
the hell of those two semi finals. Enjoyed the hell
of the two semi finals. Your reaction to Mike McCarthy
and the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Part ways surprise considering the information that we got last
week that these sides were going to be talking about
a deal, and that permission was denied by Jerry Jones
at this time. But I think you said something earlier
in this segment that is one hundred percent true. It's
probably best for the Cowboys that this happens, and maybe
for Mike McCarthy as well. Maybe he goes to the Bears,
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maybe he goes to the Saints. But I do think
that in the end, if Jerry Jones is willing to pay,
and I would hope that he is, but I think
that they're going to probably come out in a better
situation than they were if they would have kept McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, yeah, maybe, Again, depends on the higher it depends
out all fits together, you know. And the other thing
you learn again, I know you know this stance. I'm
not being condescending towards people who know sports. It's as
much as we make it out about the quarterback or
the head coach, or the defense coordinator or the offense square.
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It all has to kind of work together, right, It
all has to work together. Like I'll give you an example.
I think Dan Quinn's doing a hell of a job,
but you know he hired Cliff Kingsbury, who fits perfectly
with Jayden Daniels. It all kind of works together, right,
Like it's a much easier offense for him to process
because that offense is similar to one of the ones
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he ran in college. Like it all kind of works together.
It's not about one hire, it's about the whole thing.
And it felt like the Cowboys this year were disconnected
between defense and offense. It just did you know, so
I'm it probably is. It's definitely has a chance to
be the best thing for the Cowboys, and it might
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be the best thing for Mike McCarthy because the likely
it is he wasn't going to win next year, and
if they was on a one year deal, then he'd
be out of a job. And right now there's a
lot of jobs open, and some of them have a
quarterback and they want him to lead their football team.
Maybe or maybe not. Maybe he's done. If not, like
if at the end of the day, he's got twenty
million dollars in the best and he got the coach,
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the Packers and the Cowboys. That's not a bad gig,
not a bad game. No no sign here for that
one sign. After that, you got a lot of things
to get to, a lot, a lot, a lot.
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a first responder or you're a service man or service woman,
we have a military and first responders night Friday night,
six pm game at the Resh. I have a young team.
We think we're getting better. We'd play a really good
Robert Morris team. And so here's what we're doing. Okay,
first responders, servicemen, service women, you show up okay, hopefully
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before six like you'd be there for tip off, and
you'll get two free tickets and we'll give you a
coupon for your first beer. Is literally on me. This
isn't one of those deals where the university or other
funds are covering it. I'm covering it on my own pocket.
So I think beers are like seven of pop And
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we have a if you've been to our arena, we
have a beer garden just off the baseline closest to
our bench. That's where you'll be getting your beer. And
then we have a bell that you're going to ring
every time you go and get your free beer. So
I can't do every round. And I know how much
everyone in the Fox Valley and in Green Bay likes
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their beer. So the first cole won for first responders
in military is on me on Friday night. Good enough, Okay,
cool Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. There
you go, There you go. Adam Kaplan joins us Fox
Sports Radio is NFL Insider Plus. He's the host of
Inside the Birds podcast. I look, I know you're a
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Philly guy. Can you explain to me how it appeared
to everyone watching the replay that though there was a
legit fumble, the Packers had the fumble recovered and then
it goes under the score like you could see it
on screen. How on replay was that not Packers ball?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I mean, I'm not a I happy to live here,
but it doesn't I could care less who wins or loses.
I'm not you know, I cover thirty two teens, so
just to be clear. But by the way, there should
have been a penalty and then opening kickoff. Also the
arn Burk's the veteran linebacker who now will take over
for na Kobe Dean. He lowered his had to initiate
contact that should have been called that was not called.
(19:47):
H I agree that the reps kind of blew it. It
was an odd game, like there were some very bad
misscalls and there were some overacting by receivers by both
these particularly Green Bays receivers were acting. They just threw
their hands up. You know you do that. There's a
I don't talking to coaches. Let's say the ball's overthrown,
but a guy's near you, or it makes contact, just
throw your hands up like there should be. There should
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be a penalty. There are a number of plays like
that in this game. And doesn't make up for the
case that Green Bay did not play well, no Jordan
Love especially, but let's call like it is. Neither quarterback
played well, but the Eagles sort of persevered mostly because
of their defense of the run game.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, a lot of criticism of all the losing quarterbacks,
but Jordan Love now a lot of criticism of them.
How fair do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It's fair because look, they give them that he had
approved deal last year. He played very well. Obviously, they
blew out the Cowboys and the wild card round, and
they knew after that season that he was going to
be their guy, so they took ever his contract. There
needs to be a level of play that's consistent. The
thing with with Love is like he gets off to
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this slow start turning the ball over. They decided to
put in Josh Shakeup's hands and make Jordan Love less
of a factor, and they kind of could settling him down.
He was able to go seven straight games without throwing
an interception. Then yesterday a number of interceptions they had
for turnovers. Overall, they lost a turnover battle for to nothing.
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It is it's very fair because he's just very inconsistent.
He's sort of a gunslinger and you got to make
better decisions with the football. I know that they lost
two of their receivers yesterday and they were without Christiana Watson,
so they were down for quite a number of snaps
with their top three receivers. That's certainly a problem. He
forced the ball, but he's got to be better. He's
a very talented quarterback. By the way, the Packers love him.
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He's a pretty accountable guy from what I'm told. And
they got to get themselves together. This is not what
they're expecting. They're expecting to play better. But you know, overall,
on a game where you know the Eagles can't throw
the football to save their life, yesterday they struggled. They
started off well, Hertz got off the good start six
or six and then he really regressed. You would think
they'd be able to hang in it after that, but
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nothing seemed to go right on either side of the football.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah. I don't know if you saw Dan Orlowski's tweet
where he went through and he's like, there's nobody open.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
There were some plays, Yes, that's definitely true. But I
could tell you that Hurts moves sometimes when he shouldn't moved.
I heard this this morning. I'm sort already grated the tape.
There's sometimes he shouldn't move, he moves. He still bailed some. Now, yes,
there were some plays where guys were not open. In fact,
you could see that last yesterday watched the game on Fox.
Because of the deeper routes that Kellen Moore, the offensive
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coordinator of the Eagles to play caller, had the routes
are a bit a little bit too long. Now. What
happened was because they saw her toll on the ball
too long third quarter, they moved the past targets up
and he got rid of it faster, which is really
what he needs to do.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Adam Kaplan joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Stop me yours before. But apparently
AJ Brown wasn't happy with the number of targets. And
then he's then he's a blocking receiver yesterday and he's
reading his book on the sideline. He doesn't he doesn't
want to answer questions afterwards, he says, not about you,
but like they won a playoff game? Yeah, what what
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really goes on in the conversations about managing A. J.
Brown during the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
So, okay, let me I'm gonna I'm gonna give you
the Cliftons version, not just this, I'm going to give
you his entire career. I could tell you from the Titans,
they absolutely loved him. Coaching staff connected, he was a leader. Now,
he didn't practice a lot. He's had Uh, the big
reason why John Robinson, the general manager then of the Titans,
straight into Philly or was going to trade him and
made him a very low off, low ball offer, which A. J.
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Brown thought was insulting, is that the Titans believed that
the long term viability of both of his knees one
worse than the other. It was going to have him
potentially shorten his career, and they did not want to
guarantee much money past two years. They just were not
sure if he could have a full career, whether they
could play toys thirty. It was only twenty seven, but
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there was a so they traded him on drafting. There
were other teams involved, but Philly wound up giving what
the Titans went. Obviously, the trade has not worked out
at all. It's worked out very well for the Eagles.
Now he's got a bad left knee. You might remember
Doug in the Pittsburgh game where Dalen Hurts was terrific.
They threw the ball to run the clock out, not
run it, and then AJ Brown unfortunately got tackled awkwardly
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and he's been hurt since then with his left knee,
not practicing very much. He talked about a Thursday it's
bothering him. Now, this stuff about reading the book is
bizarre to me. No one's going to tell him what
to do. I mean, as long as he's paying attention,
it's not going to be a problem. I've not heard yet.
Now I have to look in this. I was not
aware that he was having a book on the sidelines,
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So I'll be looking into this one. This is certainly,
in my twenty seven years of covering the National footb League,
one of the most unique situations I've ever seen. I've
seen guys eat on the sidelines where you're not supposed to.
I've seen fights on the sidelines, which is absolutely normal
between coaches and coaches, coaches and players. But I've not
seeing a guy read a book, a self help book. Okay,
but that's a little odd to me. But I was
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caught caught by surprise like everyone was. And by the way,
that book now is going off the the digital bookshelves
on the Amazon. How about that? This classic you as
a coach, by the way, what how would you handle it?
I forgot your your coach? Tell us, coach, how would.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You handle if a guy If a guy's reading a book.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Well, basketball is a little hard even shorter bench.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
So no, I mean it's the same thing, Like I can't.
I don't pay attention to what's going on down there.
They tell me after the game, like this guy, you know,
and like we were I was actually really proud of
my group, like we've we've we've trimmed the bench in
terms of a lot of people who are on it,
just because I only want positivity on that bench. It's
too it's too hard, right, what would you do? I
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would I would just call him in like, what in
the actual are you doing? Right? And if it was
if it was a guy who was dealing with some
mental stuff like I have a couple dealing with some anxiety,
Like hey, coaches sow ideal with it.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Which would be fair to say he's trying to keep
his emotions in check. And you just talked about it
the pastar Yeah A J. Brown, I should add Doug
before you throw it back to you. Hear that He's
made it very clear that he does not want to
be like you know, people started bring up tarall Owens
when he was handing about the targets, and he was
unhappy last year with the direction of the offense. He
didn't want to be that guy he's talking. He said,
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don't even go there. He's a really good teammate, by
the way, but this situation with a book, so so what.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Do you mean he's a really good teammate. I disagree
with that. Hang On, hang on, there's other things you
can do to be a really good team.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
This is weird, okay, hang on. Yeah, mentoring younger players,
having having the back of everybody. Yeah, okay, now, but
I'm not a coach.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It's the whole I will tell you. It's the whole thing, though, Right.
You can't do one or two things and say, well,
I'm a good teammate because I mentor young guys. Okay,
that's great, Okay, but they also watch you throw a
fit for not getting targets, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Care get careful about the fit part.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I'd be okay, well even in this, even this, even
after the game, right, if you go like, why are
you reading the book? Like honestly, like, I'm dealing with
some anxiety. I'm dealing with pressure. I want to perform.
I get a little frustrated. This is how I find
my balance, right, Instead, it's I don't want to talk
about it. It's not about you. It tells everybody that
he's got a problem. He's drying. Yeah, and by the way,
(27:20):
negative attention to himself. All that should be celebrated is
we won the game. I agree.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And by the way, I would tell you that aj
will have an he does. He always does interviews in
the locker room, even when it's things are bad. Yeah,
he'll do that interview. I think Thursday most likely. Okay,
usually does it Thursday or Friday. But anyway, I have
a little bit of a different attitude. I'd be surprised
if he did.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, or he'll be gone. Who's the next Cowboys coach?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
All right? So, and Jerry Jones, by the way, literally
within five seconds, just the Cowboys just sent me the
statement from Jerry Jones. Let me see here. Yeah, okay, Now,
now he's probably confirming that that Mike will not return.
So all right, let me explain something to you. Okay,
I could confirm a couple of things that are may
(28:10):
or may not be out there, but I'm gonna explain
why it's been out there from several people. And I've
known about this for some time that if it didn't
get done, would be the number of years. But this
idea they didn't negotiate is it's not true. They absolutely
talked with they talked to years. I mean they talked
about framework. They never talked money. They never got that far.
(28:30):
But Jerry Jones and his agent Donyee, you know, they
kind of knew where this was headed. Both sides wanted
to They wanted to be back with each other, but
Jerry because of the way things have ended. And remember,
in fact, I remember you and I. You may not
remember this, but you and I you were incredulous how
McCarthy could come back. And I was not disagreeing with you. Okay,
(28:52):
this time last year, Mike, I've been Doug. I couldn't
believe it. I couldn't believe it. I was with you.
I'm like, you just got blown out at home and embarrassed.
And this year you're eight and nine, and I think
I think Jerry Jones in his early eighties is just unrealistic,
almost out of touch. Why would you think that a
short term deal after you let him coach out his
(29:14):
final year would be acceptable? Like why would you the
entitlement of Jerry Jones to think this. I'm going to
call it like it is, like it's part of My
job is to not only give you information, sure, but
to unders give people an idea of that's not done
this way with normal teams, Like this is not you
talk about thirty years here since the Super Bowl, Like
there's a reason like this is bizarre. Now my old
(29:35):
colleague from ESPN, Ed Werder, and I'm going to give
him credit. I know this, but I'll give credit first
because this is first chance I've had to talk about it.
Callum Moore is going to be on their list. See
here's what most people don't understand. Jerry Jones wanted Callum
More to stay. Mia McCarthy did not want him. Micha
McCarthy was told when.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
He didn't want the gold Boy there.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
He didn't want him. He didn't first of all, Callen
a run a West Coast offense. Okay, that's the number
one issue.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
They didn't see I. I on the structure of the
of the offense, and he found a way to get Look,
they got blown out. So Kellen was the fall guy.
And now he's in Philly. So they love Kellen like
they brought him up the game. You know, he became
a backup for them for a number of years. Then
quarterback coach in the euroc They love his offense, so
(30:24):
he's he's going to be on their list. There's no
question about it. I wouldn't rule out of defensive coach,
but I think more more than likely to be an
offensive coaching. By the way, listen, let's call it like
it is here with Kellen Moore and Jalen Hurts. Like
Kellen has not coached a quarterback like Kurtz, this is different,
like Hurts is a different style of quarterback. Remember, now,
(30:45):
Kellen Moore was already coach Dak Prescott. He knows what
to expect there. This has been not the greatest marriage
in Philly. I know that the Eagles are great. They're
now fifteenth three at the end of the season of
fourteen three, they're going to move on to play the
the winner of tonight's game in Philly on Sunday afternoon.
But the Eagles passing offense has not been quite I
(31:06):
think what Eagles will probably tell you it should be.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, not so, No, it's not. It's not. Guys, aren't open.
Seems a little stale? Yeah, I'm with you. Last thing,
last thing, does Mike McCarthy get a job?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yes, yeah, i'd be I don't do percentages, but if
you look at the available candidates that are out there
other than Ben Johnson for the second straight years of
the guy, it's just not a good list. And by
the way, you know, Mike Vrabel was on, as I
understand it, to our lists, and the Patriots knew this,
so they made sure this got done like as soon
as they were allowed to. Yeah, so it's not it's
(31:41):
not a great list this year. And the other thing
is Doug, when I ranked these jobs from people I
spoke with, Sure, I mean, you look at the Raiders' job.
I know that. You know there's some people around the
league that think that Tom Brady's gonna steer Ben Johnson there.
Why would Ben Johnson have any interest in that job.
It's a bad job. It's not a great It's just
I am O'Connell's been a nice story. It's probably better
(32:02):
back up if you just look at there. Over roster's
not very good.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So let's see what happens with Ben Jonson. This is fascinating.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It is Adam Kaplan, Fox Sports Radio, NFL Insider, also
host of Inside the Birds podcast. We'll talk next week. Adam.
Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
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Speaker 5 (32:49):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Hey there, Dan Byer, what you got hey, Doug?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Doug?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
That seven Seeds are now one in nine overall in
the wild Card round of the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Uh, little deal, little deal? I mean yeah, I don't
know how the committee got those teams in. That's that's
what I'm I can't. I'm sorry. That's a massively overused
tweet that everybody had, but I did still like it.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
There is there is a question not that Denver hung
with a four a half with Buffalo, yep, but if
Cincinnati would have maybe given them a better fight yesterday,
so there could be some committee aspect to it.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But yeah, probably, But I mean, you know, Cincinnati was
where they were because they had no defense, right, this
did zero defense anyway.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Not that seven seeds should be eight and two against
two seeds. The only win we've had is green Bay
winning last year again the Dallas Cowboys. All right, big deal,
little deal and no deal, Doug that Sakuon Barkley slid
to run out the clock at the end of yesterday's
went over the Packers.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I think it's a little deal. It does say and
I thought what Saquon said afterwards, like look, you know
they could randomly they could get the ball back and
score on side kick, or I could pull a hamstring
like was the other part to it. I mean, I
don't know, score the touchdown, dude, like in that particular case,
like it wasn't the thing was over. But I think
(34:30):
it's a little deal. But it does speak to that
Saquon didn't play in the seventeenth game, you know, to
break Eric Dickerson record, whether it was his choice or
theirs didn't score a touchdown, just to say I scored
a touchdown a playoff game. He's just about the right thing.
So it's a it's a big deal, but it's a
little deal because I don't think he necessarily had to
do it.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
On the heels of the AJ Brown conversation that you
had yesterday on our Sunday show, both Kerrie Rhodes and
our producer Ian Roddy said separate times AJ Brown would
have scored.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
He goes like a J Brown is running straight to
the end zone.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yes, and then celebrating himself. Yes, Yes, that's where like
I like, it's it's great for Adam Kaplan to say
he's a great teammate, but he's not, Like you can't.
You can't get away with all those different things, right.
It's like, well he's a great husband, like he's not.
He's doesn't treat the mom with respect, like yeah, but
(35:24):
he does this for the kid that get like, no,
he doesn't, you know, comes home drunk and yells at
the mom and the kids feel that like again, all
these things matter. And I do think that Saquan has
shown himself to be just an all around stud dude.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Big, big deal, little deal or no deal. That Russell
Wilson wants back in Pittsburgh next season.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Mmmm, little deal, little deal. I I don't I don't.
I don't dispute that he wants back, and it wouldn't
be crazy to have him back. It's won and how
much money And to the realization they're gonna bring somebody
else in, you know, whichever one of those two they
decide to keep, it's gonna be at minimum money and
they're going to bring somebody else in as they should.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Big deal, A little deal of no deal.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
That there's no SEC team in the National Championship for
college football for the second straight season.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
It's a big deal. It's a big deal. You can't
now their chances were lessened by only having three teams in,
But it's a big deal that college football is finding
parody one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
All right, finally, dug big deal, little deal, an old
deal that NBA basketball returns to La tonight, both the
Lakers and Clippers playing home games, the first games since
the wildfires in La.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, it's a symbolically big deal. And there's a lot
of those season takeholders that live, you know, on the coast,
that's not even the West side. That's like the coast
of the West Side, right, but it's a bit of
a return to normalcy. And look, they could have had
the playoff game there tonight, like let's not kid ourselves,
but they they didn't want to run the risk of
they're using the first responders there, so look out a
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little deal mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
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joined The Doug Gottlieb Show, we were getting ready for Texas.
Texas Take it on, Ohio State. Congratulations to the Buckeyes.
Dan Bayer's Dan Buyer's prediction came true. The Buckey's defense
comes through late and they get a huge win. And
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it also proves those on social media who have now
latched onto like chess and Herbert's bad because he played
that in one game. Those are the same Ryan Day
people now they go by the wayside. But we haven't
even talked since then. We got that in the show. Obviously,
Saturday's NFL games seem like they're like six or seven
(01:26):
days ago. Like when was it that the Steelers got
lamb basted by the Ravens yad That was Saturday. Same
thing with the Chargers game whatever. Saturday. Sunday we got
to get to the Eagles and what was a terrible
call but an equally awful beginning for the Green Bay
Packers leads to their dismantling at the hands of the
(01:49):
Eagles and all the bizarreness with the aj brown stuff,
and then of course late last night you get a
joint made field goal as the Commanders. It's actually the
first playoff win ever for the Commanders because they haven't
been the Commanders for long. And when they have an
incredible win, Jane Daniels continues to impress everybody with his poise,
(02:09):
his leadership, and his throwing and his legs in that game,
and what was the best game of the weekend ends
up being the last game of the weekend. But of course,
the Cowboys being the Cowboys, let's get to the Cowboys
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Tway Tired buying should be Look. I know a lot
about my sport. I know a lot about coaching. I'm
learning as I go. My team did. We fought hard
and lost to our rival in Milwaukee this past weekend.
The losing does continue, but we keep getting better. Anyone
(02:52):
who actually watches the games can see like, oh, young team,
seven freshmen, they're getting better. This is not excuses. Again.
I had to fix some things that fell by the
wayside during our preseason even during the season. But I
do feel like we are on an upward trajectory. And
the great thing about my job is look at our level.
(03:15):
What really matters this March and with this program. I
was hired with the designs of building it so it's
sustainable for the long term. And even my boss knows
based upon when I got the job. Like I can't
create a wine out of water, I gotta slowly churn
a little butter day after day after day. That's not
(03:36):
the Dallas Cowboys job. Dallas Cowboys job is hey, Jerry
Jones wants to win a championship. Every job is different,
every expectation level is different. And so when Mike McCarthy
was let go today, I think there's a lot of
people like, WHOA, that stinks. That's bad juju what the
Cowboys did, because remember last week the Bears asked to
(03:58):
talk to Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys like, nah, he's
our guy. And then you're like, wait, why did they
fire him today? What do you think? What do you think? Well,
he wasn't fired. Wasn't fired. His contract expired. They couldn't
(04:20):
come to an agreement on an extension. In case you
might say, well that's being fired sort of. Or Cowboys
did want to keep him as their coach, but they
didn't want to give in to a long term deal
that makes sense, like eh, And the truth is that
I think this move should have been made last year.
(04:41):
Mi McArthur is a good football coach, he's a good
play caller. Dak Prescott really likes him. But if you're
not willing to part ways with Dak Prescott for his
playoff ineptitude. Well, then my thought was, why don't you
hire a coach who's had much more success in the
playoffs because Karthy has made some ill fated decisions, some
(05:03):
game clock management issues, and two years ago Niners, last
year Packers some embarrassing losses that really it was their
offense and their turnovers that undid them. That's fair, isn't it.
And so Jerry wasn't lying when he was like, yeah,
one back. You know, Jerry also said talk to him ever,
(05:25):
Like wait, he said, talk to him ever, and then
they wouldn't let him talk to the bears, and then
they part company like a couple days later. So again
without talking to anybody in the in the building with
the Cowboys, what probably happened, and again all the details
will slowly come out over time, is they said, all right, like,
(05:47):
let's find an extension, and Mike McCarthy's probably like great,
three four years and they're like, yeah, no, we didn't.
We want to do a year. See how it works
next year. And Mike mccarr was like, I'm not not
doing it for less than three years. Okay, you know
there's leverage there. What's your leverage if you're Mike McCarthy,
(06:09):
I'll leave. Fine, we'll find somebody will. And so then
becomes the question of all, right, now, what now? Is
it fair that Mike McCarthy lost his job? Probably not,
you know, probably not. I don't think based upon what
Dak Prescott said, right, because Dak Prescott alluded to the
fact that the defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer, wasn't his choice.
(06:33):
You know, he had Dan Quinn, and you look at
what dan Quinn's doing with Washington, You're like, man, they
lose one in dan Quinn. But what what Dak alluded
to is, hey, hold on, now, I like this guy.
He didn't get to choose Mike Zimmer, and Mike Zimmer
was a bad fit for the personnel, and it might
have been a bad fit for Mike McCarthy. So whether
(06:57):
it's who gets to be my coordinators and who I
h and who I fire, or who I draft and
who I don't draft, or simply the length of contract,
it feels like this was say you know what, this
ain't gonna work. It's just not. And if I'm the
Dallas Cowboys, and you can go back and google it,
google me, go back and google it. Last year when
(07:18):
they lost in the playoffs. I said, Mike McCarthy's a
good coach. He's done a good job. The Cowboys want
to win championships. And there's a coach out there who's
won more championships than any other coach, and he's available
hire him. This is easy. Now it gets a little
murky because he's got a head coaching job, but it's
ten million dollars to get him out of it. He
hasn't hired a full staff. You can easily move him over,
(07:40):
and it would feel like Carolina got a raw deal.
Maybe he leaves his son in charge, which is the
plan all along, and only gets sped up. Or maybe
he takes his son with him. I don't know, and
I don't care. But for Mike McCarthy to walk away
is it's It's just like when you walk into a
car dealership. Man, you're like, yeah, I don't like this deal.
(08:01):
I'm gonna walk from it. And once you walk out
of that door, you either have to be able to
get willing to get in your car and go home,
or get in your car and go home and somebody
else might come and buy that car, or just sign
your name and let's go. Look happened to Tyron Lou.
Tyron Lou wanted more than three years with the LA Lakers,
(08:24):
and Rob Pulink is like, we're not giving anybody more
than three years. So Tyrone Lo's now the coach of
the Clippers. He's been the coach to the Clippers for
what the last six seven years. And Tyron Loo's really, really,
really good. But you know what he didn't get to do.
He didn't get to coach Lebron James, didn't get to
win another championship. Mike McCarthy could very easily get another job.
(08:45):
He's won a Super Bowl, they were in the playoffs
all except for what this year with Cowboys, and they
get and they did well. And Dak Prescott, I'm sure
would call anybody and say, like, I love that guy,
I like playing for that guy. I used to hire
that guy. But he won't be the coach of the
Dallas Cowboys anymore. And there is something special to being
that head coach. I'm not surprised by it in the least.
(09:13):
The only thing I'm surprised by is the fact that
they signed Dak Prescott to a long term deal, so
they're in that buy now, which there's zero possibility of
I don't believe of drafting Shador Sanders and bringing in
Dion Sanders, especially after Jerry Jones comments, which I do
think we're accurate about the true gift of Deon Sanders.
(09:34):
His ability to recruit more so than his ability to coach,
would just I don't think it would work. But it's
me I said this last year. Your whole thing in
Dallas is we haven't won in the playoffs in forever,
and you have a guy who's won more in the
playoffs than anybody else. Why would't you hire Belichick? You know? Meanwhile,
(09:59):
Mike Rabel's he's with the New England Patriots that was
broken yesterday and then of course he had the press
conference today. So you know, look, when you're a coach,
you don't like when anybody lose their job. But I'm
gonna guess that part of this was Mike McCarthy and
whether it's his ego or whether it's just the understanding,
(10:20):
there's other jobs out there I can go get and
if you don't want to give me a three or
four year deal, I'd rather go and take some other
job and build another winner. Then I will stay here
in Dallas. When next year we might not have a
chance to win because there's so many holes on this
football team. And oh yeah, by the way, I don't
feel like I have a chance if I can't hire
the people that I want to hire to run my
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defense while I run the offense. So my read on
it is sometimes relationships just come to an end, business relationships,
personal relationships. And if it was as simple as Mike
McCarthy saying I want this defensive coordinator, I want this
number of years, I want this, this and this, and
(11:03):
they said no, and he goes well, then I walk
and they go okay, then that's actually a mature end
to a relationship. Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
pH Byer, I know you were on air yesterday. You
guys had some really good stuff on air yesterday. As
(11:23):
I was driving and listen to you guys. How much
of the hire you on from Ohio State winning.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
By the way, Oh that was magnificent. That was that
was truly something a crazy game. Sometimes the greatest games
just aren't perfect. There's greatness and then there's you know,
mistakes and everything involved. But yeah, that was top top
ten play I think for sure. In my lifetime, no
(11:50):
doubt about it. In Ohio State history, the Sawyer sack
and returned.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Sawyer was so good, and he was so good. He's
been so good in the I mean he's just a
tremendous player. You know what he is. He's who Andy
Katzimware was supposed to be. How about that one? That
guy's That guy's a monster. I actually I have you know,
my dad was an Ohio State alum. I have no
true tire connection to high state football. I love watching
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thirty three play football, Like that kid plays so hard,
so hard.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of full circle. They played
different positions, obviously, but Ohio kids and Sawyer, so it
was a great basketball player.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, in high school, I saw I saw him Like
I was watching those videos this weekend. I was like, man,
can you imagine Sure matching up with him in high school?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
But being one of the guys that wanted to return,
obviously he was at the center of the Michigan flag
planting controversy and trying to rip that there's yeah, he is.
He will go down in Ohio State lore for what
has transpired over the last two months. Not that his
career wasn't great up to that point, but the chapters
(13:00):
that have now been added, it's truly been remarkable. And
I said top ten it may even be it may
even be top five for how how crazy that was?
I mean Texas at the one yard line and then.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, and you know, it's it's really interesting on how
like I almost feel like social media and I love
just you know, like I have loved my time on
X and I'm not like one of these like I'm
moving away from X whatever, but I do feel like
I need to find a way to clean up my
algorithm for people that I actually think I because so
(13:36):
many of these people like it's just bizarre opinions, you know,
it's like just bizarre, like what are we actually like?
That was a great football game. Texas lost my two touchdowns,
but I mean one of them is at the end's
returned for what are y from tying their yard away
from tying the game? It was a great game and
(13:56):
a kid made a great play, and Ohio State's defense,
you know, his coach Jim Knowles, does an incredible job.
It's you know, like they they found a way. It
really was. It's one of those where score not indicative
of how competitive that football game was. Like I just
I watched. I have some of the same feelings with
(14:17):
the with the Penn State Notre Dame game. We talked
about this on Friday, which is like, we go when
we crush these dudes as head coaches or quarterbacks, and
the truth is, it really comes down to one or
two plays. It wasn't like you know, the Indiana or
SMU or the Tennessee these blowouts. You know, it's like
it really came down to one or two plays. And
I don't care what the final score is whatever, Like
(14:39):
somebody's not a choker, or somebody didn't choke because they
ran a play that you know that Sawyer blows up
because he's an unbelievable football player. You know, Like, what
are we actually doing here? I don't know. I enjoyed
the hell of those two semi finals. Enjoyed the hell
of the two semi finals. Your reaction to Mike McCarthy
and the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Part ways surprise considering the information that we got last
week that these sides were going to be talking about
a deal, and that permission was denied by Jerry Jones
at this time. But I think you said something earlier
in this segment that is one hundred percent true. It's
probably best for the Cowboys that this happens, and maybe
for Mike McCarthy as well. Maybe he goes to the Bears,
(15:20):
maybe he goes to the Saints. But I do think
that in the end, if Jerry Jones is willing to pay,
and I would hope that he is, but I think
that they're going to probably come out in a better
situation than they were if they would have kept McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, yeah, maybe, Again, depends on the higher it depends
out all fits together, you know. And the other thing
you learn again, I know you know this stance. I'm
not being condescending towards people who know sports. It's as
much as we make it out about the quarterback or
the head coach, or the defense coordinator or the offense square.
(15:57):
It all has to kind of work together, right, It
all has to work together. Like I'll give you an example.
I think Dan Quinn's doing a hell of a job,
but you know he hired Cliff Kingsbury, who fits perfectly
with Jayden Daniels. It all kind of works together, right,
Like it's a much easier offense for him to process
because that offense is similar to one of the ones
(16:20):
he ran in college. Like it all kind of works together.
It's not about one hire, it's about the whole thing.
And it felt like the Cowboys this year were disconnected
between defense and offense. It just did you know, so
I'm it probably is. It's definitely has a chance to
be the best thing for the Cowboys, and it might
(16:40):
be the best thing for Mike McCarthy because the likely
it is he wasn't going to win next year, and
if they was on a one year deal, then he'd
be out of a job. And right now there's a
lot of jobs open, and some of them have a
quarterback and they want him to lead their football team.
Maybe or maybe not. Maybe he's done. If not, like
if at the end of the day, he's got twenty
million dollars in the best and he got the coach,
(17:00):
the Packers and the Cowboys. That's not a bad gig,
not a bad game. No no sign here for that
one sign. After that, you got a lot of things
to get to, a lot, a lot, a lot.
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a first responder or you're a service man or service woman,
we have a military and first responders night Friday night,
six pm game at the Resh. I have a young team.
We think we're getting better. We'd play a really good
Robert Morris team. And so here's what we're doing. Okay,
first responders, servicemen, service women, you show up okay, hopefully
(18:07):
before six like you'd be there for tip off, and
you'll get two free tickets and we'll give you a
coupon for your first beer. Is literally on me. This
isn't one of those deals where the university or other
funds are covering it. I'm covering it on my own pocket.
So I think beers are like seven of pop And
(18:28):
we have a if you've been to our arena, we
have a beer garden just off the baseline closest to
our bench. That's where you'll be getting your beer. And
then we have a bell that you're going to ring
every time you go and get your free beer. So
I can't do every round. And I know how much
everyone in the Fox Valley and in Green Bay likes
(18:48):
their beer. So the first cole won for first responders
in military is on me on Friday night. Good enough, Okay,
cool Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. There
you go, There you go. Adam Kaplan joins us Fox
Sports Radio is NFL Insider Plus. He's the host of
Inside the Birds podcast. I look, I know you're a
(19:09):
Philly guy. Can you explain to me how it appeared
to everyone watching the replay that though there was a
legit fumble, the Packers had the fumble recovered and then
it goes under the score like you could see it
on screen. How on replay was that not Packers ball?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I mean, I'm not a I happy to live here,
but it doesn't I could care less who wins or loses.
I'm not you know, I cover thirty two teens, so
just to be clear. But by the way, there should
have been a penalty and then opening kickoff. Also the
arn Burk's the veteran linebacker who now will take over
for na Kobe Dean. He lowered his had to initiate
contact that should have been called that was not called.
(19:47):
H I agree that the reps kind of blew it. It
was an odd game, like there were some very bad
misscalls and there were some overacting by receivers by both
these particularly Green Bays receivers were acting. They just threw
their hands up. You know you do that. There's a
I don't talking to coaches. Let's say the ball's overthrown,
but a guy's near you, or it makes contact, just
throw your hands up like there should be. There should
(20:09):
be a penalty. There are a number of plays like
that in this game. And doesn't make up for the
case that Green Bay did not play well, no Jordan
Love especially, but let's call like it is. Neither quarterback
played well, but the Eagles sort of persevered mostly because
of their defense of the run game.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, a lot of criticism of all the losing quarterbacks,
but Jordan Love now a lot of criticism of them.
How fair do you think that is?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It's fair because look, they give them that he had
approved deal last year. He played very well. Obviously, they
blew out the Cowboys and the wild card round, and
they knew after that season that he was going to
be their guy, so they took ever his contract. There
needs to be a level of play that's consistent. The
thing with with Love is like he gets off to
(20:55):
this slow start turning the ball over. They decided to
put in Josh Shakeup's hands and make Jordan Love less
of a factor, and they kind of could settling him down.
He was able to go seven straight games without throwing
an interception. Then yesterday a number of interceptions they had
for turnovers. Overall, they lost a turnover battle for to nothing.
(21:17):
It is it's very fair because he's just very inconsistent.
He's sort of a gunslinger and you got to make
better decisions with the football. I know that they lost
two of their receivers yesterday and they were without Christiana Watson,
so they were down for quite a number of snaps
with their top three receivers. That's certainly a problem. He
forced the ball, but he's got to be better. He's
a very talented quarterback. By the way, the Packers love him.
(21:40):
He's a pretty accountable guy from what I'm told. And
they got to get themselves together. This is not what
they're expecting. They're expecting to play better. But you know, overall,
on a game where you know the Eagles can't throw
the football to save their life, yesterday they struggled. They
started off well, Hertz got off the good start six
or six and then he really regressed. You would think
they'd be able to hang in it after that, but
(22:00):
nothing seemed to go right on either side of the football.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah. I don't know if you saw Dan Orlowski's tweet
where he went through and he's like, there's nobody open.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
There were some plays, Yes, that's definitely true. But I
could tell you that Hurts moves sometimes when he shouldn't moved.
I heard this this morning. I'm sort already grated the tape.
There's sometimes he shouldn't move, he moves. He still bailed some. Now, yes,
there were some plays where guys were not open. In fact,
you could see that last yesterday watched the game on Fox.
Because of the deeper routes that Kellen Moore, the offensive
(22:32):
coordinator of the Eagles to play caller, had the routes
are a bit a little bit too long. Now. What
happened was because they saw her toll on the ball
too long third quarter, they moved the past targets up
and he got rid of it faster, which is really
what he needs to do.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Adam Kaplan joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Stop me yours before. But apparently
AJ Brown wasn't happy with the number of targets. And
then he's then he's a blocking receiver yesterday and he's
reading his book on the sideline. He doesn't he doesn't
want to answer questions afterwards, he says, not about you,
but like they won a playoff game? Yeah, what what
(23:12):
really goes on in the conversations about managing A. J.
Brown during the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
So, okay, let me I'm gonna I'm gonna give you
the Cliftons version, not just this, I'm going to give
you his entire career. I could tell you from the Titans,
they absolutely loved him. Coaching staff connected, he was a leader. Now,
he didn't practice a lot. He's had Uh, the big
reason why John Robinson, the general manager then of the Titans,
straight into Philly or was going to trade him and
made him a very low off, low ball offer, which A. J.
(23:37):
Brown thought was insulting, is that the Titans believed that
the long term viability of both of his knees one
worse than the other. It was going to have him
potentially shorten his career, and they did not want to
guarantee much money past two years. They just were not
sure if he could have a full career, whether they
could play toys thirty. It was only twenty seven, but
(23:59):
there was a so they traded him on drafting. There
were other teams involved, but Philly wound up giving what
the Titans went. Obviously, the trade has not worked out
at all. It's worked out very well for the Eagles.
Now he's got a bad left knee. You might remember
Doug in the Pittsburgh game where Dalen Hurts was terrific.
They threw the ball to run the clock out, not
run it, and then AJ Brown unfortunately got tackled awkwardly
(24:21):
and he's been hurt since then with his left knee,
not practicing very much. He talked about a Thursday it's
bothering him. Now, this stuff about reading the book is
bizarre to me. No one's going to tell him what
to do. I mean, as long as he's paying attention,
it's not going to be a problem. I've not heard yet.
Now I have to look in this. I was not
aware that he was having a book on the sidelines,
(24:42):
So I'll be looking into this one. This is certainly,
in my twenty seven years of covering the National footb League,
one of the most unique situations I've ever seen. I've
seen guys eat on the sidelines where you're not supposed to.
I've seen fights on the sidelines, which is absolutely normal
between coaches and coaches, coaches and players. But I've not
seeing a guy read a book, a self help book. Okay,
but that's a little odd to me. But I was
(25:04):
caught caught by surprise like everyone was. And by the way,
that book now is going off the the digital bookshelves
on the Amazon. How about that? This classic you as
a coach, by the way, what how would you handle it?
I forgot your your coach? Tell us, coach, how would.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You handle if a guy If a guy's reading a book.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Well, basketball is a little hard even shorter bench.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
So no, I mean it's the same thing, Like I can't.
I don't pay attention to what's going on down there.
They tell me after the game, like this guy, you know,
and like we were I was actually really proud of
my group, like we've we've we've trimmed the bench in
terms of a lot of people who are on it,
just because I only want positivity on that bench. It's
too it's too hard, right, what would you do? I
(25:42):
would I would just call him in like, what in
the actual are you doing? Right? And if it was
if it was a guy who was dealing with some
mental stuff like I have a couple dealing with some anxiety,
Like hey, coaches sow ideal with it.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Which would be fair to say he's trying to keep
his emotions in check. And you just talked about it
the pastar Yeah A J. Brown, I should add Doug
before you throw it back to you. Hear that He's
made it very clear that he does not want to
be like you know, people started bring up tarall Owens
when he was handing about the targets, and he was
unhappy last year with the direction of the offense. He
didn't want to be that guy he's talking. He said,
(26:15):
don't even go there. He's a really good teammate, by
the way, but this situation with a book, so so what.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Do you mean he's a really good teammate. I disagree
with that. Hang On, hang on, there's other things you
can do to be a really good team.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
This is weird, okay, hang on. Yeah, mentoring younger players,
having having the back of everybody. Yeah, okay, now, but
I'm not a coach.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It's the whole I will tell you. It's the whole thing, though, Right.
You can't do one or two things and say, well,
I'm a good teammate because I mentor young guys. Okay,
that's great, Okay, but they also watch you throw a
fit for not getting targets, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Care get careful about the fit part.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I'd be okay, well even in this, even this, even
after the game, right, if you go like, why are
you reading the book? Like honestly, like, I'm dealing with
some anxiety. I'm dealing with pressure. I want to perform.
I get a little frustrated. This is how I find
my balance, right, Instead, it's I don't want to talk
about it. It's not about you. It tells everybody that
he's got a problem. He's drying. Yeah, and by the way,
(27:20):
negative attention to himself. All that should be celebrated is
we won the game. I agree.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And by the way, I would tell you that aj
will have an he does. He always does interviews in
the locker room, even when it's things are bad. Yeah,
he'll do that interview. I think Thursday most likely. Okay,
usually does it Thursday or Friday. But anyway, I have
a little bit of a different attitude. I'd be surprised
if he did.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, or he'll be gone. Who's the next Cowboys coach?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
All right? So, and Jerry Jones, by the way, literally
within five seconds, just the Cowboys just sent me the
statement from Jerry Jones. Let me see here. Yeah, okay, Now,
now he's probably confirming that that Mike will not return.
So all right, let me explain something to you. Okay,
I could confirm a couple of things that are may
(28:10):
or may not be out there, but I'm gonna explain
why it's been out there from several people. And I've
known about this for some time that if it didn't
get done, would be the number of years. But this
idea they didn't negotiate is it's not true. They absolutely
talked with they talked to years. I mean they talked
about framework. They never talked money. They never got that far.
(28:30):
But Jerry Jones and his agent Donyee, you know, they
kind of knew where this was headed. Both sides wanted
to They wanted to be back with each other, but
Jerry because of the way things have ended. And remember,
in fact, I remember you and I. You may not
remember this, but you and I you were incredulous how
McCarthy could come back. And I was not disagreeing with you. Okay,
(28:52):
this time last year, Mike, I've been Doug. I couldn't
believe it. I couldn't believe it. I was with you.
I'm like, you just got blown out at home and embarrassed.
And this year you're eight and nine, and I think
I think Jerry Jones in his early eighties is just unrealistic,
almost out of touch. Why would you think that a
short term deal after you let him coach out his
(29:14):
final year would be acceptable? Like why would you the
entitlement of Jerry Jones to think this. I'm going to
call it like it is, like it's part of My
job is to not only give you information, sure, but
to unders give people an idea of that's not done
this way with normal teams, Like this is not you
talk about thirty years here since the Super Bowl, Like
there's a reason like this is bizarre. Now my old
(29:35):
colleague from ESPN, Ed Werder, and I'm going to give
him credit. I know this, but I'll give credit first
because this is first chance I've had to talk about it.
Callum Moore is going to be on their list. See
here's what most people don't understand. Jerry Jones wanted Callum
More to stay. Mia McCarthy did not want him. Micha
McCarthy was told when.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
He didn't want the gold Boy there.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
He didn't want him. He didn't first of all, Callen
a run a West Coast offense. Okay, that's the number
one issue.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
They didn't see I. I on the structure of the
of the offense, and he found a way to get Look,
they got blown out. So Kellen was the fall guy.
And now he's in Philly. So they love Kellen like
they brought him up the game. You know, he became
a backup for them for a number of years. Then
quarterback coach in the euroc They love his offense, so
(30:24):
he's he's going to be on their list. There's no
question about it. I wouldn't rule out of defensive coach,
but I think more more than likely to be an
offensive coaching. By the way, listen, let's call it like
it is here with Kellen Moore and Jalen Hurts. Like
Kellen has not coached a quarterback like Kurtz, this is different,
like Hurts is a different style of quarterback. Remember, now,
(30:45):
Kellen Moore was already coach Dak Prescott. He knows what
to expect there. This has been not the greatest marriage
in Philly. I know that the Eagles are great. They're
now fifteenth three at the end of the season of
fourteen three, they're going to move on to play the
the winner of tonight's game in Philly on Sunday afternoon.
But the Eagles passing offense has not been quite I
(31:06):
think what Eagles will probably tell you it should be.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, not so, No, it's not. It's not. Guys, aren't open.
Seems a little stale? Yeah, I'm with you. Last thing,
last thing, does Mike McCarthy get a job?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yes, yeah, i'd be I don't do percentages, but if
you look at the available candidates that are out there
other than Ben Johnson for the second straight years of
the guy, it's just not a good list. And by
the way, you know, Mike Vrabel was on, as I
understand it, to our lists, and the Patriots knew this,
so they made sure this got done like as soon
as they were allowed to. Yeah, so it's not it's
(31:41):
not a great list this year. And the other thing
is Doug, when I ranked these jobs from people I
spoke with, Sure, I mean, you look at the Raiders' job.
I know that. You know there's some people around the
league that think that Tom Brady's gonna steer Ben Johnson there.
Why would Ben Johnson have any interest in that job.
It's a bad job. It's not a great It's just
I am O'Connell's been a nice story. It's probably better
(32:02):
back up if you just look at there. Over roster's
not very good.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So let's see what happens with Ben Jonson. This is fascinating.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It is Adam Kaplan, Fox Sports Radio, NFL Insider, also
host of Inside the Birds podcast. We'll talk next week. Adam.
Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
That's good things.
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Speaker 5 (32:49):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Hey there, Dan Byer, what you got hey, Doug?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Doug?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
That seven Seeds are now one in nine overall in
the wild Card round of the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Uh, little deal, little deal? I mean yeah, I don't
know how the committee got those teams in. That's that's
what I'm I can't. I'm sorry. That's a massively overused
tweet that everybody had, but I did still like it.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
There is there is a question not that Denver hung
with a four a half with Buffalo, yep, but if
Cincinnati would have maybe given them a better fight yesterday,
so there could be some committee aspect to it.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But yeah, probably, But I mean, you know, Cincinnati was
where they were because they had no defense, right, this
did zero defense anyway.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Not that seven seeds should be eight and two against
two seeds. The only win we've had is green Bay
winning last year again the Dallas Cowboys. All right, big deal,
little deal and no deal, Doug that Sakuon Barkley slid
to run out the clock at the end of yesterday's
went over the Packers.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I think it's a little deal. It does say and
I thought what Saquon said afterwards, like look, you know
they could randomly they could get the ball back and
score on side kick, or I could pull a hamstring
like was the other part to it. I mean, I
don't know, score the touchdown, dude, like in that particular case,
like it wasn't the thing was over. But I think
(34:30):
it's a little deal. But it does speak to that
Saquon didn't play in the seventeenth game, you know, to
break Eric Dickerson record, whether it was his choice or
theirs didn't score a touchdown, just to say I scored
a touchdown a playoff game. He's just about the right thing.
So it's a it's a big deal, but it's a
little deal because I don't think he necessarily had to
do it.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
On the heels of the AJ Brown conversation that you
had yesterday on our Sunday show, both Kerrie Rhodes and
our producer Ian Roddy said separate times AJ Brown would
have scored.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
He goes like a J Brown is running straight to
the end zone.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yes, and then celebrating himself. Yes, Yes, that's where like
I like, it's it's great for Adam Kaplan to say
he's a great teammate, but he's not, Like you can't.
You can't get away with all those different things, right.
It's like, well he's a great husband, like he's not.
He's doesn't treat the mom with respect, like yeah, but
(35:24):
he does this for the kid that get like, no,
he doesn't, you know, comes home drunk and yells at
the mom and the kids feel that like again, all
these things matter. And I do think that Saquan has
shown himself to be just an all around stud dude.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Big, big deal, little deal or no deal. That Russell
Wilson wants back in Pittsburgh next season.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Mmmm, little deal, little deal. I I don't I don't.
I don't dispute that he wants back, and it wouldn't
be crazy to have him back. It's won and how
much money And to the realization they're gonna bring somebody
else in, you know, whichever one of those two they
decide to keep, it's gonna be at minimum money and
they're going to bring somebody else in as they should.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Big deal, A little deal of no deal.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
That there's no SEC team in the National Championship for
college football for the second straight season.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
It's a big deal. It's a big deal. You can't
now their chances were lessened by only having three teams in,
But it's a big deal that college football is finding
parody one way or the other.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
All right, finally, dug big deal, little deal, an old
deal that NBA basketball returns to La tonight, both the
Lakers and Clippers playing home games, the first games since
the wildfires in La.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, it's a symbolically big deal. And there's a lot
of those season takeholders that live, you know, on the coast,
that's not even the West side. That's like the coast
of the West Side, right, but it's a bit of
a return to normalcy. And look, they could have had
the playoff game there tonight, like let's not kid ourselves,
but they they didn't want to run the risk of
they're using the first responders there, so look out a
(36:58):
little deal mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
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Speaker 3 (37:07):
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