September 30, 2024 • 36 mins
Doug talks about the Ravens' win over the Bills Sunday night and explains why he still is not sold on MVP Lamar Jackson. Doug weighs in on the words exchanged between Tom Brady and Baker Mayfield from the weekend. Doug discusses the Robert Saleh comments from Sunday and Monday. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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really what you know, the level of NFL games. Dan
Buyer talks about this. I'm Stu and and look, I'm
Jason Stewart's in there, nod his head and he's going seropa, Zeropa, zeropa,
which of course is his. Is the album that you
two put out there that we all or many people bought.
I didn't buy it. Maybe we bought because it's you two,
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even though it wasn't until normal quality of the previous
U two albums, which is what we're talking about with
the NFL. Hey, this is not the normal quality of
the NFL. I just think, look, this weekend was kind
of a mismatched weekend. And here's what happens when you
have all of these different made standalone TV games. You know,
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it goes, it goes in in order. I'm guessing that
Amazon probably had the first pick this week. I don't
know that. I would say it's very likely though, Cowboys
versus the Giants. The Cowboys are ratings wise, you know,
that's the biggest straw in the NFL, and New York
obviously is the biggest market in the country, so that
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would make sense that would be one. And then the
second pick has got to be Sunday Night Football. That
was the Ravens and the Bills, which wasn't nearly as
compelling a game does it look like it was going
to be? And then I guess Money Net Football, though
it may have been Fox or CBS for one of
the other games as well. And then you have Money
Night Football. But again, because tonight you look at the
games and previous to actually seeing them play and knowing
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how good they are, you know, I don't know, I
don't think it's as terrible a matchup as it looks. Right,
you have Miami and Tennessee, Seattle and Detroit. Obviously Seattle
in Detroit right now look like really good teams. Tennessee
nobody thought would be would be great, but I don't
think anybody knew they'd be owing three and the way
in which they've been owing three would turn overs from
the quarterback, and Miami not having TUA changes them dramatically
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for the worst as well. But I mean, if we're
just gonna call it, we'd say, yeah, that wasn't a
great week get football right. You still have Chargers in chiefs,
which is a good little rivalry, and as it did
look like previous Chargers games in which they just no
matter how much they were competitive and did a good
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job defensively, just too many mistakes offensively. Wasn't a great
weekend unless you're a Baltimore raven fan. Remember they were
zero and too now they're two and two, and they
did so with one hundred and ninety nine yards from
Derek Henry. Let's dive in a little bit of here
is this is John Harball, head coach of the Ravens,
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talking about the team's win.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We know what's possible, we know what we're capable of,
but we got a long way to go, and we
got a lot of work to do. And we're just
four games in and we got thirteen more regular season
games to play, and where this season goes is going
to be defined by what we do in the next
thirteen games.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Plus.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
The leadership on this team is incredible. Kyle Hamilton's sitting
right over there. Okay, young guy taking the reins. Okay,
you know all the other guys. You know Rowe, you
know Lamar, you know Mark Andrews, Isaiah likely other young guys.
Got a bunch of great leaders in this team. We
got like Pat McCarry going from right tackle to left
guard like that and playing the way he did. These
are the kind of things that make a difference.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I like this. This is a good I think the
difference is obviously the offensive line wasn't playing well previously,
and I don't know how well they're playing against the past.
They figured out the run game and Derrick Henry as
as well. I don't think the defense is a dominance
as has been previously, although it was really good last
night and we're back in kind of the same sort
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of thing we always felt like we'd have with Lamar Jackson,
which is, hey, it's really good in the regular season,
will it work to the highest level in the postseason?
And again, we don't know. We don't know. Now, maybe
this is different because if Derrick Henry is healthy, when
you get to the postseason, you don't just have Lamar
Jackson as a runner. You also have Derrick Henry. And
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maybe it's we should just be disappointed by the Bills
who look like, hey, maybe they could, maybe they could,
you know, take the crown as or the throne as
the best team in the AFC based upon how they'd started,
and they caught a whooping last night. Here's Josh Allen
summing up the loss.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We're not gonna let this again, avalanche. The guys that
we have in this in this building, they're smart, the
guys that played a lot of football in their careers,
so they understand the the ebbs and flows of an
NFL season. And you know this is going to happen
time to time. You know, sometimes you walk into a
building and they were a bus all tonight and they
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kicked our button. You know, that's that's what it comes down.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
To well, they're in a they're in a run here
where they play the Ravens in the road, the Texans
in the road, the Jets in the road, the Titans
at home. Then they go to the to the Seahawks
like that's woo. So the three notes start was great
now at three and one, but you're staring three and
two and maybe three and three in the eye. We'll see,
because the Jets seem to struggle to to to to
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do the right things as well. I was trying to
figure out this morning if the story was more the
Ravens or the Bills. I thought the story was more
the Ravens, whereas the Bills. They just weren't that good
last night. And when you get behind a team that's
running the football and running it as well, and Derek
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Henry gets momentum, Yeah, I think it's the Bills. I mean,
I think I think the Ravens of the story, not
the Bills. But when you look at what's ahead of
the Bills here in these next couple weeks, they got
to win one of these next two, you know, because
the Chiefs don't seem to be able to lose games
no matter how close they play. Them, and Buffalo does
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have that ability to play or that you know, the
likelihood is you're playing in terrible weather in Buffalo, and
it's not that Josh Allen you don't want you want
to take away Josh allen superpowers, but some of these
other teams you want to take away their shuper powers.
Maybe the interesting part is that in the AFC, going
through Buffalo, Baltimore's a better has got a better setup
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for it. You know, it's like one of those things like, yeah,
we want to get home field advantage unless we play
Baltimore because the football, as much as they run, the
football should be the only thing you can do when
the weather is completely and totally terrible. Now, Lamar does
fumble a lot. Maybe that's the thing that holds you back.
But you have Dereck Henry to and he's a guy
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that needs momentum. He needs he needs thirty carries to
break one break two run for one hundred n ninety nine. Yesterday,
I don't know, God, I mean, Lamar was so bad
the first couple weeks, and it wasn't he was great
last week, this week or even last week. But he's
been much better, been much better. I can't wait to
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get the love. We probably should have started the show
Jay stew on Love and Hate the weekend, because there's
so many things I love and so many things I
hated that maybe I hate the fact that my brain
is in fifty million places. Because you had the Alabama
Georgia game, which was a complete blowout until it wasn't
and then it was wild Oklahoma Auburn wild. You do
have different little pieces of these NFL games which are interesting,
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including Aaron Rodgers really and right back at his coach
like that one's interesting. To Kevin m tumble died today.
Was he sick, he had brain cancer, There's there's There's
lots of really good human beings. So I don't want
to say he's the best human being to be a philanthropist,
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but in terms of bringing attention and bringing a sport
that he played back to his home country, like I
I cannot think of a guy who you would definitely
put above that of to Kevin mc tumble on the
list of good dudes right in terms of for humanity
and doing the right thing, like he's on anybody's list.
(08:43):
Terribly sad story. All right, let's get back to sports
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I'm still not a big Lamar guy in the playoffs.
I'm just not. But they last year they tried giving
him more of a pro passing game. It didn't work.
In the playoffs. This year, it feels like, all right,
let's just lean into who we are. We can run
it with Derek Henry, we can run it with other
guys who can run it with Lamar Jackson. Occasionally we
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can hit you with a deep ball as well. And
that formula has worked these past two weeks against two
those are both two playoff teams. Beat the Cowboys in
the road, you beat the you beat the pants out
of the beat the pants off the Bills at home,
and you look like a team that can do something.
But this is their style and it's interesting, you know.
(09:47):
It was Zone Reid stuff is first couple of years
and Greg Roman's offense, and then last year they tried
to spread it out and throw it more, and this
year they're like, eh, we'll throw, but we'll also really
brought it.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
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Speaker 1 (10:12):
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Speaker 5 (10:30):
Good? Good?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Did you guys hear what? I think most of everybody
heard what Tom Brady said, But did you hear what
I thought? It was really interesting what Baker Mayfield said
to kind of set Tom Brady off, if you will, right.
So this is Baker Mayfield on the Casa de Club
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podcast last week.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
The building was a little bit different with Tom in there. Obviously,
playing wise, Tom was different. He had everybody dialed in
high strung environments. So I think everybody was pretty stressed out.
So they wanted me to come in be myself, you know,
bring the joy back to football a little bit for
guys that weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay, so they want to have as much fun. Here's
Tom Brady addressing those comments on the broadcast yesterday. That's
it quote.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
They wanted me to come in, be myself, bring the
joy back to football for guys and weren't having as
much fun. It's funny because you've made this environ room
for me very stressful up here in the booth.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
So I understand where he's coming from. Do you feel
I know what was pressed?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Well, I was gonna say I thought stressful was not
having Super Bowl rings. So there was a mindset of
a champion that I took to work every day. This
wasn't daycare. If I wanted to have fun, I was
gonna go to Disneyland with my kids.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
So you know, as you were saying go ahead, that's
you feel like, I feel like there's more in there
to say.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
There's a way to approach this game.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yeah, And it's that with the with the right mind
said and try to push each other outside of our
comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And great teammates do that.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
You come in, I have someone like Gronkowska, I have
someone like Evans.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
There's high expectations for us. We've got to make sure
we go out there and deliver.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
The competitive juice is still flowing, still in there.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I love, No apologies, no apologies. Baker was asked about
Brady's comments after the game. Here's what he said.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
A lot of that got taken out of context, and
none of it was personal by any means. It's just,
you know, what he demanded of the guys, and that's
that's the aura of Tom Brady and that's what he
did to bring a championship here, and so nothing personal.
But yeah, talking before the game, he's obviously happy for me,
and he knows the guys, so he knows how much
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I enjoyed throwing to Mike and Chris because he got
to do the same. And so it's fun to be
able to, you know, talk about the same experiences as
the guy like that.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Okay, can we first start with the It was not
taken out of context. He said guys weren't having fun.
He was brought in to return the joy to football
and oh yeah, by the way, it's really interesting. There
was a there has always been a thought that Brady
wanted to get away from Belichick because Belichick wasn't fun.
(13:12):
It was too much work. They just they never got
a chance to enjoy winning, and it was just all
about the next championship, the next championship. And when you
hear that from and I think you guys remember I
know Dan Byer remembers because he was on the show
Jay stew you weren't back when Brady was still playing him.
I thought was I didn't think it worked long term
(13:32):
because as we know, his first head coach in Tampa,
it was you know, cocktail hour in the in the evening.
That's just the reality of it. So you go from
cocktail hour to to you know, to Tom Brady, like
those two things don't work together. And remember what he
(13:54):
wasn't fired, but he had a job that no one
knew exactly what it was like. That was Tom Brady too.
There's no question that Tom Brady came in and he
probably thought that the whole setup was a joke. Guys
didn't work hard enough. Guys weren't grinders, They weren't first
one into the film room and fighting each other to
be the first one in. There was no con contextual
(14:17):
errors there. It was Brady's not fun. Brady was older,
he was demanding. He was used to guys that were
only focused on winning, not even their kind. Everybody thought
in New England's kind of robots, not really personality, it's
not real people. That's how Brady was. That's how he
was groomed to be a star and became a star.
And he he u not just fostered that environment, he
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performed well in that environment. Baker's different. Baker's more of
a good time, a little bit looser. That's fine, there's
nothing wrong with it. But don't try and tell me
that there's no that that it was taken out of context. No,
it wasn't perfectly perfectly, perfectly in context. And Brady's a psycho.
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He's a psych and I say that in the most
loving terms, like he's a psycho. Give me the film,
let's watch the film. You just finished the game, go
home with your kids. I want to watch the film.
I want to start figuring out what we did here
and get ready for next week. That's who that guy is,
complete psycho. Still Gottleab Show, You're on Fox Sports Radio
and Mets and Braves. I guess the question becomes, like,
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you're the Mets and you win the first game, what
do you do in the se game? Do you try
and win it or do you shut it down and
let the Braves go in? And does it depend on
j st? What do you think you do if you're
the keey mind you're the Mets. Let's say you hold
on your up six three, you win game one, you're
automatically in the playoffs. If you win game two, you
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eliminate eliminate the Braves. What would you do if you
were a skipper of the New York Mets.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Well, I think you still try to win because there's
a roster of professionals and they hate the Braves and
they want to kick the Braves out of the playoffs.
But I will say this, you're not going to pitch
your best guys. I think it would have been an
all hands on deck situation for the Mets in the
second game. But I think now you could just kind
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of pitch guys that you don't want to go in
the first playoff game. So it definitely lowers the pressure.
But I think there's some professional pride there. The Braves
have been dominating that division and it would be nice
to just not have them in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And do the diamond Do the Diamondbacks threatens anybody?
Speaker 8 (16:33):
So can I jump in real real quick here?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
So?
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Yeah, so yesterday there was like Bob Niningel of USA
Today said that the Padres on purpose lost because they
wanted this doubleheader to happen, hoping that the Braves would
have to use Chris Sale and then they won't be
able to use him against the Padres.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
That's fart.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
And then I don't understand how both of these teams
weren't like you forfeit one, I forfeit one, and then
we're both in.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Why do we?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Why are we doing these games?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, that's what I'm saying. Like if that's when the
first one, right, do they shut it down for a
second one? You don't have to. It becomes unspoken. Yeah,
you know, don't about the Diamondbacks. If they find a
way to get into this thing, is did they they
lost like five of the last seven games like they're
talking about, which means they'll probably win. You know, they
get in, then you know, we talked about hot teams.
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It doesn't really matter how many. Okay MONSI you're a
big baseball fan, Yes, how many Arizona Diamondbacks can you name?
Speaker 9 (17:34):
I think I could get maybe three. I think Corbyn,
Carrol Kettle, Marte. Yeah, trying to like go in my
you know, I'm sure, I'm sure if you gave me
a list, I be like, oh, that's a Diamondback.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
That's a Diamondback. But just off the top of my
head is hard.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's really hard. Sdamn how many. I'm not gonna ask
Jase too, because Jays two probably knows their whole lineup.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I play fantasy baseball.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Oh that helps.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
And they made it to the World Series last year.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
They did so if I saw listening as I could
probably I'm really they did.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, I swear to you. I didn't know that well.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Mad Dog Russo said he would retire from the business.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
That did happen to the World Series.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Mad Dog Russo. I mean, honestly, at off the top
of my head, I had no idea. I had. I
had zero idea that they were in the playoffs. They
were in the World Series last year. Don't remember, don't remember.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Zach Callen, right, that's our picture.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Sure, that's one we used to We used to do
this thing when I was at CBS. We used to say,
obviously he's not He's not there anymore. They had, by
my estimation, a Hall of Fame player and Paul Goldschmidt.
Like what Goldie did there is incredible in terms of consistency,
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but no one has ever paid attention to ball gold
Schmidt when he was in Arizona. So we used to
do a thing called Nobody, No One gives a Schmidt
And it was some like incredible stat about baseball that
people don't care about because they don't care about baseball,
even though the stat was incredible.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
That and then I'm just as guilty of it. I've
been sewing football mode my own mom. I'm like, all
the diebacks were in the World Series.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry, they're just sorry. Now they're just
Jack Peterson, Jack Peterson's diamondback.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Jack Peterson's dieback. There you go. Now they're just giving
you names.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
No.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
No, I'm just like sitting here thinking baseball basement, and
I don't think.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
I can get anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I base baseball, base Baseball stuck. Got the show here
on Fox sports trailer. Let's get back to football, the
sport that we do know everybody cares about because everybody
bets on it. I mean, let's just get to what
it is. There's there was this weird back and forth
between Robert Salah and Aaron Rodgers. So you know how
Aaron Rogers does the snap count thing where he varies
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it and it's pretty awesome when they get free plays.
I think he's probably the most known for it in
the last fifteen years. I know other people have done
it and they've had a good but Aaron Rodgers is
really kind of known for it. So yesterday, when they're
playing the Jets, who had one false start on his
hard counts his entire career, I think they had five yesterday,
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five fall starts when they were on offense with their
own quarterback trying to draw the players off sides so
that he could lessen the likelihood of them coming over
to where the guys had their rooms, you know, right,
like if you're at a resort like those things. Robert
sala was asked about the false starts if five fall
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starts yesterday by the Jets on offense, Here's what he
had to say.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Last I think you guys were one or two in
the NFL Itelli is now this year I think are four?
Speaker 10 (20:57):
And what needs to.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Change to clean it up?
Speaker 10 (21:00):
Oh, we got to figure it out whether or not
we're good enough to handle all the We're ready to
handle all the kittens. Cadence had not been an issue
all camp. Felt like our operation had been operating pretty good.
Obviously today it took a major step back.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
How does your operation have been operating good? That's one
of those like he tried to use the operation thing
and then he got caught in a sentence that didn't
make any sense. Here's Aaron Rodgers's response the.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Cadence specifically, Robert said, that might be something you guys
have to dial back a little bit. Is that something
you think could potentially help the situation?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It's fun way to do it.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
The other ways hold them accountable. I mean, we haven't
had an issue. We've had one false start. Morgan had
one false start, I believe until this so it's been
a weapon. We use it every day in practice. We
don't you know, we rarely have a false start, and
they have I don't know five today it seemed like
four or five. Yeah, it seems like an outlier. I
don't know if we need to make mass change is
based on, you know, kind of an outlier game.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, those aren't. That's not a quarterbacking coach that are
thinking the same thing. Here's Boomer sias In, another former quarterback,
former MVP, still works for CBS. I believe. Here's Boomer
sias In earlier today.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
I try to watch to see if I see any
interactions on the sideline or anything. Nothing. Nothing. I see
a guy walking right past the other guy. I can't
imagine that. And when I see Aaron Rodgers on the
sideline and I see him after the game in the
postgame press conference, you know. And again I'm speculating here,
but yesterday's day postgame press conference, there is a major
issue there. And they bolt will deny it, I guarantee it.
(22:43):
But there is an issue there, and it's because you
have this forty year old Hall of Fame quarterback to
be dealing with a coach that I think he doesn't
respect well.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I also think that remember Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady,
they both came into the league as backups and kind
of had to earn their way. They both came in
the league and the league was different. It was much
more discipline oriented. And you know, you hear in the
voice of Aaron Rodgers, what you know, all you could
do is hold those guys accountable. You know, in other words,
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you're not you don't have enough team discipline. And this
is what it feels like. And it's miserable if you're
showing up doing things the right way and everybody around
you is not. Everybody is clearly not. Also, Jets aren't.
Aren't that good? I mean, that's Robert Salah has well,
(23:37):
he's backtracked. Here's what he said today. There's a distinction
between cadence and operation. We're always going to push the
envelope with cadence always, but with regards to operation, getting
in another huddle, getting to the line of scrimmage, the
communication that's being had, those things that we continue to
look up at and clean up. But from a cadence standpoint,
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that's part of what makes us who we are, and
we're going to continue to always push the envelope on that.
Let me let me read the room here. Okay, that
Aaron Rodgers is he's not always he pissed, but he's right.
Salah is trying to clean it up with No, I
didn't say we're going to change the cadence. They say
we're going to fix the operation. And oh yeah, by
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the way, when you start talking about getting in and
getting out of the huddle, right, which is what he
brought up. What he's talking about Robert sala Is, who
on that staff had we previously thought was terrible at
getting plays in and out and to get the operation going,
to get guys and out of the huddle. Who was that?
(24:41):
That's Nathaniel Hackett, his offensive coordinator. Same thing happened in Denver,
couldn't get the plays in on time. So I find
this to be amazing that, in an effort to back
down from Aaron Rodgers, he's now throwing his offensive coordinator
back under the bus with and maybe that's the issue
is Hey, they're not getting they're playing on time. I
(25:02):
don't think that has anything to do with the five
fall starts. That feels like BS two. Now he's saying, Hey,
it's not my fault, it's not Aaron's fault. Is n
Daniel Hackett's fault? Does anybody else hear it that way? Sam?
Do you hear it that way? Jason?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You hear it that way I do, I do, Doug.
A couple of weeks ago, Mantsey and Dan were filling
in for you the day after that weird thing in
the middle of the field after a Juts touchdown.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Were they, yeah, bump I thought he was going in
for a bump rug.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I remember. My takeaway from that entire episode was that
the New York media did not do a great job
of getting answers after the game. You know, they asked
Aaron and he said something about, you know, he's not
a big hugger and two point two score lead, and
then they asked Salah and he said something about a
two score lead. And then I'm thinking nobody did the
(25:56):
fall up and said what about that death stare that
Aaron gave you. That wasn't normal, that wasn't joking. There
was nothing light about that moment, no follow up until this,
And I think Boomer's right on right, there's just no
respect there. I don't even know if those guys talk.
Remember back in the preseason it was Sala who said
(26:16):
something about about, you know, Aaron's not going to play
in the preseason, and then Aaron's like, let's first I've
heard of it, Like what the hell's going on over there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Well, also remember he had an unexcused absence that was
pre planned, which is like, what, yeah, I don't think
I don't think Aaron has any time for it. My
guess is Aaron and Hackett go into their going to
the quarterback room and they set the game plan. They
do all the offense, and Salah is just and Sala's
(26:48):
probably sitting there ticked about it because the offense isn't
particularly good, isn't much better. His defense is pretty good also,
a bit undisciplined, but that's what it feels like. That's
what it feels like. But that whole thing is that's amazing,
sound amazing. And then he right and then this one
(27:09):
today where he, you know, after running over Aaron Rodgers
and Nathaniel Hackett, now he runs back over Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
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Speaker 1 (27:24):
Doug gottlib Show, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Rich Hornberger
is going to join us upcoming next hour. He's a
foreign patriot. We'll ask him about Brady and what I
call a football psycho, which is you know if you're
not in football, he'd say, that's not a chairman of endearment.
It is absolutely a term of endearment. Plus, we have
love and hate from the weekend. We got a lot
to get to, got a lot to get to. But
(27:47):
I before we get to love and hate, before we
get to rich Hornberger, let's get to game time with
Monty Belognas. This is game time.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
On the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Month See what do you got.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Well, it's Monday, so let's kick off our week with
big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
That's right, all right, Doug, coach.
Speaker 9 (28:16):
I'm gonna give you different scenarios. You're gonna tell me
if it's a big deal, little deal, or no deal.
And we're gonna start with a guy who came straight
off the couch last year, thirty nine year old Joe
Flacco relieving Anthony Richardson this weekend, throwing two touchdowns the
Colts get the win over the Steelers.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Is this a big deal? Is it a little deal?
Is it a no deal?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I think it's a big deal. Placo has had this
incredibly gracious way about him in both the past two years,
both in Cleveland when he was on the couch and
then this year in Indy's funding the postgame interview. But yes,
Antheon Richardson in addition to getting hurt again just isn't
that good. And it's like one of those things like, hey,
(29:05):
how far out of the Colts if this guy can
come in and win games for him? Yeah, So it's
a it's a big deal because it does show Anthey
Richardson's continuing inadequacies and how I don't want to say
it's simple, but if you have a guy who can
just do what they're asking you to do with Shane
Steiken's offense, even if a guy's old and not really
(29:25):
an athlete, then then you'll you'll be okay.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
I also it makes me like really sit and wonder
how the Browns let him go after what he did
last year. But apparently, I don't know if you've heard
this story, Adam Kaplan actually told Dan Byer and Carrie
Rhodes this yesterday that the Browns didn't want to keep
him on. He's Adam Kaplan said that this is what
he thinks, that they didn't want to keep him on
(29:50):
because they didn't think it was going to be good
for Deshaun Watson's ego, of course, not that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
What's crazy about it?
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Did you come out wanting to have a great backup quarterback?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
What exchange of Flacco after the game? Yes, the reporter
did you hear this?
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Oh it's so cute.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
We got to play it.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Go.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
He told me his mom is eight days older than
I am.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
So there's no chance in the world that he.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Thinks I'm cool with So.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
I love that.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
He really is just so likable.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
An NFL player's mom is thirty nine years old.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
Yeah, incredible, it's crazy, it is.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
It is.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
All right. Let's move on here to our next one coach.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
Big deal, little deal or no deal That Patriots head
coach Jerod Mayo is sticking by Jacoby Brissett, saying he
is one hundred percent their starter moving forward.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Uh, that's a big deal. It's a big deal because
I don't understand it. Nobody understands it. Yeah, right, Supposedly
he was better in the preseason than Brissette. Yet you
know he won to Brisett being the older guy to
kind of show him the way. But like we got
(31:02):
in this point where like, okay, Jacoby Brisset's not good.
Let's move on. And yet he won't move one, won't
do it. I don't. I don't understand it at all.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Do you think it just has a little bit we're
seeing all of these roocky young quarterbacks are kind of
thrown out there and it's there.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
It's hard for them. So maybe it's just like Drake May,
you know, like he just wants them to sit and
watch listen.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I understand that, and I don't I think there's a
path for success doing that. I just don't know if
like Brissette is just not good and I don't like
we're really gonna sit him and you're playing everybody else. Yeah,
I get it. And part of that is when the expectations,
like the Bears, the expectations are high. Now they've gotten
(31:45):
the two and two and and Caleb still hasn't played well.
So you can lose your confidence. You can throw a
guy out there too soon, you can mess the guy up.
I get that, And maybe that's their thing. You bring
up a really good point, but I thought you had
to be calmly quarterbacked. And I'm a little disappointed where
Jacob Brissett is right now with that offense.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Yeah, I hear you, I hear you. Okay, let's move
on here. Big deal, little deal are no deal?
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Coach that Texas fell in the A people from number
one to number two after beating Mississippi State Saturday, Alabama
coming in at number one, because Alabama is Alabama until
they're not.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I think it's kind of a big deal because it's like, yeah,
they beat Georgia, and they were they were crushing Georgia,
but Georgia did take the lead. I'm not sure what
Texas did wrong. You know, they beat an SEC team
on the road without their starting quarterback. Yeah, yeah, so
I don't think it matters, but it's at least interesting.
So let's go a little deal.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
Okay, all right, let's stay here with college football because
this story is just nuts to me.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
UNLV they won Saturday without that quarterback Matthew Sluka, who
decided that he wasn't going to play anymore due to
an nil.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
We'll say it's a misunderstanding.
Speaker 9 (33:02):
I've heard different stories, but UNLV improved to four.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
I know for the season.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Without him. That's a big deal. Yeah, because the propular,
the popular presumption is he leaves. Running back leaves as well,
and it becomes house of cards and we'll see how
long it lasts. But it's again, I think Sam said
this last week. It's not like he's been killing it. Yeah,
(33:29):
you know, mm hmm. So it's a weird one.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
It is.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
Especially I heard that there was like a casino mogul
or somebody that was just willing to give him the
money so that he would stay.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
No, it was, it was, it was. I don't know
if it was casino, but yes, it was somebody in
Vegas and somebody Vegas.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
The problem with it though, is like, now you've gotten
to the point where if you said you're not playing
unless you get X money, then you get X money.
Then why wouldn't anybody else in the team do that? Right? Right?
Speaker 9 (33:57):
No, Yes, it's it's a slippery slope for sure, No one. Okay,
let's move on to baseball here and a quick update
on the Mets and the Braves. Braves are back on
top in Game one, seven to sixth, top of the
ninth inning, So big deal, little deal, no deal. Show
Hey o Tani coming four percentage points shorts of shorts
of winning the National League batting title, securing the Triple Crown,
(34:19):
Luis Ares gets it, making history, third time in a row,
third team, third different team, only player to have done it.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
But Showyotanni was so close.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
So what is the big deal? A little deal or
no deal about that show?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Hey, o, TONI didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It was a little deal.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
It was a little deal.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I mean, look, if well, can I change sure? Yeah,
you're right, it's my show. I'm gonna go big deal.
And I'll only tell you why because you could make
the argument if he has the first fifty to fifty
season and he has a triple crown, Yeah, he literally
has the best season anyone's ever had. Yep, he still
may have that anyway, but it makes it a stronger argument.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
Yeah, agreed, so close. It was just so close.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
It was it was.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
It would have been perfect.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
You couldn't have scripted better for Shoho Tony's first season
with the doctors we need.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Jason Stewart, Jason, let me say, Hollywood would have thrown
out that script.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
If you would have taken it into the pitch meeting,
they would have kicked you out.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
But the person that came in with the pitch that
a snail is going to win the Indianapolis five hundred.
They're like, yeah, that sounds perfectly reasonable. What's What's green White?
That movie?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Just like we drew it up?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
All right?
Speaker 9 (35:34):
Quick?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Wait here dog? Big deal, Little deal, No deal. Brianna
Stewart the New York Liberty.
Speaker 9 (35:38):
They beat the defending champion Aces in game one of
their best of five w A semi finals.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
No deal cares.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
What about Kelsey Plum talking to Spike Lee.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
But that was a fun interaction between Spike Lee and
Kelsey Plum. They like back and forth.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Ailla. I mean Karl Anthony Towns was traded. That's way
bigger than the actual games in the w NBA.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Well yeah, okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Last week, Sam, did you pay attention to the WNB
You've been our w NBA insider all season long, or
did you shut down for the offseason because Caitlyn lost.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
I'll just say I've been paying attention to it a
little bit, but it definitely My focus on the league
has tapered off since since the Fever have exited the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Yep, he's tapering as most people are. I think that's
game time.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
That is game time.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
This is game time on the Gottlieb Show coming.
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really what you know, the level of NFL games. Dan
Buyer talks about this. I'm Stu and and look, I'm
Jason Stewart's in there, nod his head and he's going seropa, Zeropa, zeropa,
which of course is his. Is the album that you
two put out there that we all or many people bought.
I didn't buy it. Maybe we bought because it's you two,
(01:08):
even though it wasn't until normal quality of the previous
U two albums, which is what we're talking about with
the NFL. Hey, this is not the normal quality of
the NFL. I just think, look, this weekend was kind
of a mismatched weekend. And here's what happens when you
have all of these different made standalone TV games. You know,
(01:29):
it goes, it goes in in order. I'm guessing that
Amazon probably had the first pick this week. I don't
know that. I would say it's very likely though, Cowboys
versus the Giants. The Cowboys are ratings wise, you know,
that's the biggest straw in the NFL, and New York
obviously is the biggest market in the country, so that
(01:51):
would make sense that would be one. And then the
second pick has got to be Sunday Night Football. That
was the Ravens and the Bills, which wasn't nearly as
compelling a game does it look like it was going
to be? And then I guess Money Net Football, though
it may have been Fox or CBS for one of
the other games as well. And then you have Money
Night Football. But again, because tonight you look at the
games and previous to actually seeing them play and knowing
(02:15):
how good they are, you know, I don't know, I
don't think it's as terrible a matchup as it looks. Right,
you have Miami and Tennessee, Seattle and Detroit. Obviously Seattle
in Detroit right now look like really good teams. Tennessee
nobody thought would be would be great, but I don't
think anybody knew they'd be owing three and the way
in which they've been owing three would turn overs from
the quarterback, and Miami not having TUA changes them dramatically
(02:36):
for the worst as well. But I mean, if we're
just gonna call it, we'd say, yeah, that wasn't a
great week get football right. You still have Chargers in chiefs,
which is a good little rivalry, and as it did
look like previous Chargers games in which they just no
matter how much they were competitive and did a good
(02:56):
job defensively, just too many mistakes offensively. Wasn't a great
weekend unless you're a Baltimore raven fan. Remember they were
zero and too now they're two and two, and they
did so with one hundred and ninety nine yards from
Derek Henry. Let's dive in a little bit of here
is this is John Harball, head coach of the Ravens,
(03:19):
talking about the team's win.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
We know what's possible, we know what we're capable of,
but we got a long way to go, and we
got a lot of work to do. And we're just
four games in and we got thirteen more regular season
games to play, and where this season goes is going
to be defined by what we do in the next
thirteen games.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Plus.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
The leadership on this team is incredible. Kyle Hamilton's sitting
right over there. Okay, young guy taking the reins. Okay,
you know all the other guys. You know Rowe, you
know Lamar, you know Mark Andrews, Isaiah likely other young guys.
Got a bunch of great leaders in this team. We
got like Pat McCarry going from right tackle to left
guard like that and playing the way he did. These
are the kind of things that make a difference.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I like this. This is a good I think the
difference is obviously the offensive line wasn't playing well previously,
and I don't know how well they're playing against the past.
They figured out the run game and Derrick Henry as
as well. I don't think the defense is a dominance
as has been previously, although it was really good last
night and we're back in kind of the same sort
(04:20):
of thing we always felt like we'd have with Lamar Jackson,
which is, hey, it's really good in the regular season,
will it work to the highest level in the postseason?
And again, we don't know. We don't know. Now, maybe
this is different because if Derrick Henry is healthy, when
you get to the postseason, you don't just have Lamar
Jackson as a runner. You also have Derrick Henry. And
(04:46):
maybe it's we should just be disappointed by the Bills
who look like, hey, maybe they could, maybe they could,
you know, take the crown as or the throne as
the best team in the AFC based upon how they'd started,
and they caught a whooping last night. Here's Josh Allen
summing up the loss.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We're not gonna let this again, avalanche. The guys that
we have in this in this building, they're smart, the
guys that played a lot of football in their careers,
so they understand the the ebbs and flows of an
NFL season. And you know this is going to happen
time to time. You know, sometimes you walk into a
building and they were a bus all tonight and they
(05:24):
kicked our button. You know, that's that's what it comes down.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
To well, they're in a they're in a run here
where they play the Ravens in the road, the Texans
in the road, the Jets in the road, the Titans
at home. Then they go to the to the Seahawks
like that's woo. So the three notes start was great
now at three and one, but you're staring three and
two and maybe three and three in the eye. We'll see,
because the Jets seem to struggle to to to to
(05:48):
do the right things as well. I was trying to
figure out this morning if the story was more the
Ravens or the Bills. I thought the story was more
the Ravens, whereas the Bills. They just weren't that good
last night. And when you get behind a team that's
running the football and running it as well, and Derek
(06:09):
Henry gets momentum, Yeah, I think it's the Bills. I mean,
I think I think the Ravens of the story, not
the Bills. But when you look at what's ahead of
the Bills here in these next couple weeks, they got
to win one of these next two, you know, because
the Chiefs don't seem to be able to lose games
no matter how close they play. Them, and Buffalo does
(06:30):
have that ability to play or that you know, the
likelihood is you're playing in terrible weather in Buffalo, and
it's not that Josh Allen you don't want you want
to take away Josh allen superpowers, but some of these
other teams you want to take away their shuper powers.
Maybe the interesting part is that in the AFC, going
through Buffalo, Baltimore's a better has got a better setup
(06:52):
for it. You know, it's like one of those things like, yeah,
we want to get home field advantage unless we play
Baltimore because the football, as much as they run, the
football should be the only thing you can do when
the weather is completely and totally terrible. Now, Lamar does
fumble a lot. Maybe that's the thing that holds you back.
But you have Dereck Henry to and he's a guy
(07:13):
that needs momentum. He needs he needs thirty carries to
break one break two run for one hundred n ninety nine. Yesterday,
I don't know, God, I mean, Lamar was so bad
the first couple weeks, and it wasn't he was great
last week, this week or even last week. But he's
been much better, been much better. I can't wait to
(07:35):
get the love. We probably should have started the show
Jay stew on Love and Hate the weekend, because there's
so many things I love and so many things I
hated that maybe I hate the fact that my brain
is in fifty million places. Because you had the Alabama
Georgia game, which was a complete blowout until it wasn't
and then it was wild Oklahoma Auburn wild. You do
have different little pieces of these NFL games which are interesting,
(07:57):
including Aaron Rodgers really and right back at his coach
like that one's interesting. To Kevin m tumble died today.
Was he sick, he had brain cancer, There's there's There's
lots of really good human beings. So I don't want
to say he's the best human being to be a philanthropist,
(08:20):
but in terms of bringing attention and bringing a sport
that he played back to his home country, like I
I cannot think of a guy who you would definitely
put above that of to Kevin mc tumble on the
list of good dudes right in terms of for humanity
and doing the right thing, like he's on anybody's list.
(08:43):
Terribly sad story. All right, let's get back to sports
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I'm still not a big Lamar guy in the playoffs.
I'm just not. But they last year they tried giving
him more of a pro passing game. It didn't work.
In the playoffs. This year, it feels like, all right,
let's just lean into who we are. We can run
it with Derek Henry, we can run it with other
guys who can run it with Lamar Jackson. Occasionally we
(09:27):
can hit you with a deep ball as well. And
that formula has worked these past two weeks against two
those are both two playoff teams. Beat the Cowboys in
the road, you beat the you beat the pants out
of the beat the pants off the Bills at home,
and you look like a team that can do something.
But this is their style and it's interesting, you know.
(09:47):
It was Zone Reid stuff is first couple of years
and Greg Roman's offense, and then last year they tried
to spread it out and throw it more, and this
year they're like, eh, we'll throw, but we'll also really
brought it.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
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Speaker 1 (10:12):
Stugg gott Leeb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio, Man, I
like that song. I'm like, sorry, Sammy, You're like the
jams are too good today, too good today, you know.
And somebody's listening to the podcast going, I can't. I
can't hear your I don't know what you're talking about
knowing about it?
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Good? Good?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Did you guys hear what? I think most of everybody
heard what Tom Brady said, But did you hear what
I thought? It was really interesting what Baker Mayfield said
to kind of set Tom Brady off, if you will, right.
So this is Baker Mayfield on the Casa de Club
(10:54):
podcast last week.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
The building was a little bit different with Tom in there. Obviously,
playing wise, Tom was different. He had everybody dialed in
high strung environments. So I think everybody was pretty stressed out.
So they wanted me to come in be myself, you know,
bring the joy back to football a little bit for
guys that weren't having as much fun.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay, so they want to have as much fun. Here's
Tom Brady addressing those comments on the broadcast yesterday. That's
it quote.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
They wanted me to come in, be myself, bring the
joy back to football for guys and weren't having as
much fun. It's funny because you've made this environ room
for me very stressful up here in the booth.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
So I understand where he's coming from. Do you feel
I know what was pressed?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Well, I was gonna say I thought stressful was not
having Super Bowl rings. So there was a mindset of
a champion that I took to work every day. This
wasn't daycare. If I wanted to have fun, I was
gonna go to Disneyland with my kids.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
So you know, as you were saying go ahead, that's
you feel like, I feel like there's more in there
to say.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
There's a way to approach this game.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yeah, And it's that with the with the right mind
said and try to push each other outside of our
comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And great teammates do that.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
You come in, I have someone like Gronkowska, I have
someone like Evans.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
There's high expectations for us. We've got to make sure
we go out there and deliver.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
The competitive juice is still flowing, still in there.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I love, No apologies, no apologies. Baker was asked about
Brady's comments after the game. Here's what he said.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
A lot of that got taken out of context, and
none of it was personal by any means. It's just,
you know, what he demanded of the guys, and that's
that's the aura of Tom Brady and that's what he
did to bring a championship here, and so nothing personal.
But yeah, talking before the game, he's obviously happy for me,
and he knows the guys, so he knows how much
(12:45):
I enjoyed throwing to Mike and Chris because he got
to do the same. And so it's fun to be
able to, you know, talk about the same experiences as
the guy like that.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Okay, can we first start with the It was not
taken out of context. He said guys weren't having fun.
He was brought in to return the joy to football
and oh yeah, by the way, it's really interesting. There
was a there has always been a thought that Brady
wanted to get away from Belichick because Belichick wasn't fun.
(13:12):
It was too much work. They just they never got
a chance to enjoy winning, and it was just all
about the next championship, the next championship. And when you
hear that from and I think you guys remember I
know Dan Byer remembers because he was on the show
Jay stew you weren't back when Brady was still playing him.
I thought was I didn't think it worked long term
(13:32):
because as we know, his first head coach in Tampa,
it was you know, cocktail hour in the in the evening.
That's just the reality of it. So you go from
cocktail hour to to you know, to Tom Brady, like
those two things don't work together. And remember what he
(13:54):
wasn't fired, but he had a job that no one
knew exactly what it was like. That was Tom Brady too.
There's no question that Tom Brady came in and he
probably thought that the whole setup was a joke. Guys
didn't work hard enough. Guys weren't grinders, They weren't first
one into the film room and fighting each other to
be the first one in. There was no con contextual
(14:17):
errors there. It was Brady's not fun. Brady was older,
he was demanding. He was used to guys that were
only focused on winning, not even their kind. Everybody thought
in New England's kind of robots, not really personality, it's
not real people. That's how Brady was. That's how he
was groomed to be a star and became a star.
And he he u not just fostered that environment, he
(14:38):
performed well in that environment. Baker's different. Baker's more of
a good time, a little bit looser. That's fine, there's
nothing wrong with it. But don't try and tell me
that there's no that that it was taken out of context. No,
it wasn't perfectly perfectly, perfectly in context. And Brady's a psycho.
(14:59):
He's a psych and I say that in the most
loving terms, like he's a psycho. Give me the film,
let's watch the film. You just finished the game, go
home with your kids. I want to watch the film.
I want to start figuring out what we did here
and get ready for next week. That's who that guy is,
complete psycho. Still Gottleab Show, You're on Fox Sports Radio
and Mets and Braves. I guess the question becomes, like,
(15:22):
you're the Mets and you win the first game, what
do you do in the se game? Do you try
and win it or do you shut it down and
let the Braves go in? And does it depend on
j st? What do you think you do if you're
the keey mind you're the Mets. Let's say you hold
on your up six three, you win game one, you're
automatically in the playoffs. If you win game two, you
(15:43):
eliminate eliminate the Braves. What would you do if you
were a skipper of the New York Mets.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Well, I think you still try to win because there's
a roster of professionals and they hate the Braves and
they want to kick the Braves out of the playoffs.
But I will say this, you're not going to pitch
your best guys. I think it would have been an
all hands on deck situation for the Mets in the
second game. But I think now you could just kind
(16:11):
of pitch guys that you don't want to go in
the first playoff game. So it definitely lowers the pressure.
But I think there's some professional pride there. The Braves
have been dominating that division and it would be nice
to just not have them in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And do the diamond Do the Diamondbacks threatens anybody?
Speaker 8 (16:33):
So can I jump in real real quick here?
Speaker 6 (16:35):
So?
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Yeah, so yesterday there was like Bob Niningel of USA
Today said that the Padres on purpose lost because they
wanted this doubleheader to happen, hoping that the Braves would
have to use Chris Sale and then they won't be
able to use him against the Padres.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
That's fart.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
And then I don't understand how both of these teams
weren't like you forfeit one, I forfeit one, and then
we're both in.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Why do we?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Why are we doing these games?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, that's what I'm saying. Like if that's when the
first one, right, do they shut it down for a
second one? You don't have to. It becomes unspoken. Yeah,
you know, don't about the Diamondbacks. If they find a
way to get into this thing, is did they they
lost like five of the last seven games like they're
talking about, which means they'll probably win. You know, they
get in, then you know, we talked about hot teams.
(17:25):
It doesn't really matter how many. Okay MONSI you're a
big baseball fan, Yes, how many Arizona Diamondbacks can you name?
Speaker 9 (17:34):
I think I could get maybe three. I think Corbyn,
Carrol Kettle, Marte. Yeah, trying to like go in my
you know, I'm sure, I'm sure if you gave me
a list, I be like, oh, that's a Diamondback.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
That's a Diamondback. But just off the top of my
head is hard.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's really hard. Sdamn how many. I'm not gonna ask
Jase too, because Jays two probably knows their whole lineup.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I play fantasy baseball.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Oh that helps.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
And they made it to the World Series last year.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
They did so if I saw listening as I could
probably I'm really they did.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, I swear to you. I didn't know that well.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Mad Dog Russo said he would retire from the business.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
That did happen to the World Series.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Mad Dog Russo. I mean, honestly, at off the top
of my head, I had no idea. I had. I
had zero idea that they were in the playoffs. They
were in the World Series last year. Don't remember, don't remember.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Zach Callen, right, that's our picture.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Sure, that's one we used to We used to do
this thing when I was at CBS. We used to say,
obviously he's not He's not there anymore. They had, by
my estimation, a Hall of Fame player and Paul Goldschmidt.
Like what Goldie did there is incredible in terms of consistency,
(18:59):
but no one has ever paid attention to ball gold
Schmidt when he was in Arizona. So we used to
do a thing called Nobody, No One gives a Schmidt
And it was some like incredible stat about baseball that
people don't care about because they don't care about baseball,
even though the stat was incredible.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
That and then I'm just as guilty of it. I've
been sewing football mode my own mom. I'm like, all
the diebacks were in the World Series.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry, they're just sorry. Now they're just
Jack Peterson, Jack Peterson's diamondback.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Jack Peterson's dieback. There you go. Now they're just giving
you names.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
No.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
No, I'm just like sitting here thinking baseball basement, and
I don't think.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
I can get anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I base baseball, base Baseball stuck. Got the show here
on Fox sports trailer. Let's get back to football, the
sport that we do know everybody cares about because everybody
bets on it. I mean, let's just get to what
it is. There's there was this weird back and forth
between Robert Salah and Aaron Rodgers. So you know how
Aaron Rogers does the snap count thing where he varies
(20:02):
it and it's pretty awesome when they get free plays.
I think he's probably the most known for it in
the last fifteen years. I know other people have done
it and they've had a good but Aaron Rodgers is
really kind of known for it. So yesterday, when they're
playing the Jets, who had one false start on his
hard counts his entire career, I think they had five yesterday,
(20:26):
five fall starts when they were on offense with their
own quarterback trying to draw the players off sides so
that he could lessen the likelihood of them coming over
to where the guys had their rooms, you know, right,
like if you're at a resort like those things. Robert
sala was asked about the false starts if five fall
(20:48):
starts yesterday by the Jets on offense, Here's what he
had to say.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Last I think you guys were one or two in
the NFL Itelli is now this year I think are four?
Speaker 10 (20:57):
And what needs to.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Change to clean it up?
Speaker 10 (21:00):
Oh, we got to figure it out whether or not
we're good enough to handle all the We're ready to
handle all the kittens. Cadence had not been an issue
all camp. Felt like our operation had been operating pretty good.
Obviously today it took a major step back.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
How does your operation have been operating good? That's one
of those like he tried to use the operation thing
and then he got caught in a sentence that didn't
make any sense. Here's Aaron Rodgers's response the.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Cadence specifically, Robert said, that might be something you guys
have to dial back a little bit. Is that something
you think could potentially help the situation?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It's fun way to do it.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
The other ways hold them accountable. I mean, we haven't
had an issue. We've had one false start. Morgan had
one false start, I believe until this so it's been
a weapon. We use it every day in practice. We
don't you know, we rarely have a false start, and
they have I don't know five today it seemed like
four or five. Yeah, it seems like an outlier. I
don't know if we need to make mass change is
based on, you know, kind of an outlier game.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, those aren't. That's not a quarterbacking coach that are
thinking the same thing. Here's Boomer sias In, another former quarterback,
former MVP, still works for CBS. I believe. Here's Boomer
sias In earlier today.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
I try to watch to see if I see any
interactions on the sideline or anything. Nothing. Nothing. I see
a guy walking right past the other guy. I can't
imagine that. And when I see Aaron Rodgers on the
sideline and I see him after the game in the
postgame press conference, you know. And again I'm speculating here,
but yesterday's day postgame press conference, there is a major
issue there. And they bolt will deny it, I guarantee it.
(22:43):
But there is an issue there, and it's because you
have this forty year old Hall of Fame quarterback to
be dealing with a coach that I think he doesn't
respect well.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I also think that remember Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady,
they both came into the league as backups and kind
of had to earn their way. They both came in
the league and the league was different. It was much
more discipline oriented. And you know, you hear in the
voice of Aaron Rodgers, what you know, all you could
do is hold those guys accountable. You know, in other words,
(23:15):
you're not you don't have enough team discipline. And this
is what it feels like. And it's miserable if you're
showing up doing things the right way and everybody around
you is not. Everybody is clearly not. Also, Jets aren't.
Aren't that good? I mean, that's Robert Salah has well,
(23:37):
he's backtracked. Here's what he said today. There's a distinction
between cadence and operation. We're always going to push the
envelope with cadence always, but with regards to operation, getting
in another huddle, getting to the line of scrimmage, the
communication that's being had, those things that we continue to
look up at and clean up. But from a cadence standpoint,
(23:57):
that's part of what makes us who we are, and
we're going to continue to always push the envelope on that.
Let me let me read the room here. Okay, that
Aaron Rodgers is he's not always he pissed, but he's right.
Salah is trying to clean it up with No, I
didn't say we're going to change the cadence. They say
we're going to fix the operation. And oh yeah, by
(24:18):
the way, when you start talking about getting in and
getting out of the huddle, right, which is what he
brought up. What he's talking about Robert sala Is, who
on that staff had we previously thought was terrible at
getting plays in and out and to get the operation going,
to get guys and out of the huddle. Who was that?
(24:41):
That's Nathaniel Hackett, his offensive coordinator. Same thing happened in Denver,
couldn't get the plays in on time. So I find
this to be amazing that, in an effort to back
down from Aaron Rodgers, he's now throwing his offensive coordinator
back under the bus with and maybe that's the issue
is Hey, they're not getting they're playing on time. I
(25:02):
don't think that has anything to do with the five
fall starts. That feels like BS two. Now he's saying, Hey,
it's not my fault, it's not Aaron's fault. Is n
Daniel Hackett's fault? Does anybody else hear it that way? Sam?
Do you hear it that way? Jason?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
You hear it that way I do, I do, Doug.
A couple of weeks ago, Mantsey and Dan were filling
in for you the day after that weird thing in
the middle of the field after a Juts touchdown.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Were they, yeah, bump I thought he was going in
for a bump rug.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
I remember. My takeaway from that entire episode was that
the New York media did not do a great job
of getting answers after the game. You know, they asked
Aaron and he said something about, you know, he's not
a big hugger and two point two score lead, and
then they asked Salah and he said something about a
two score lead. And then I'm thinking nobody did the
(25:56):
fall up and said what about that death stare that
Aaron gave you. That wasn't normal, that wasn't joking. There
was nothing light about that moment, no follow up until this,
And I think Boomer's right on right, there's just no
respect there. I don't even know if those guys talk.
Remember back in the preseason it was Sala who said
(26:16):
something about about, you know, Aaron's not going to play
in the preseason, and then Aaron's like, let's first I've
heard of it, Like what the hell's going on over there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Well, also remember he had an unexcused absence that was
pre planned, which is like, what, yeah, I don't think
I don't think Aaron has any time for it. My
guess is Aaron and Hackett go into their going to
the quarterback room and they set the game plan. They
do all the offense, and Salah is just and Sala's
(26:48):
probably sitting there ticked about it because the offense isn't
particularly good, isn't much better. His defense is pretty good also,
a bit undisciplined, but that's what it feels like. That's
what it feels like. But that whole thing is that's amazing,
sound amazing. And then he right and then this one
(27:09):
today where he, you know, after running over Aaron Rodgers
and Nathaniel Hackett, now he runs back over Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Doug gottlib Show, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Rich Hornberger
is going to join us upcoming next hour. He's a
foreign patriot. We'll ask him about Brady and what I
call a football psycho, which is you know if you're
not in football, he'd say, that's not a chairman of endearment.
It is absolutely a term of endearment. Plus, we have
love and hate from the weekend. We got a lot
to get to, got a lot to get to. But
(27:47):
I before we get to love and hate, before we
get to rich Hornberger, let's get to game time with
Monty Belognas. This is game time.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
On the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Month See what do you got.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Well, it's Monday, so let's kick off our week with
big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
That's right, all right, Doug, coach.
Speaker 9 (28:16):
I'm gonna give you different scenarios. You're gonna tell me
if it's a big deal, little deal, or no deal.
And we're gonna start with a guy who came straight
off the couch last year, thirty nine year old Joe
Flacco relieving Anthony Richardson this weekend, throwing two touchdowns the
Colts get the win over the Steelers.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Is this a big deal? Is it a little deal?
Is it a no deal?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I think it's a big deal. Placo has had this
incredibly gracious way about him in both the past two years,
both in Cleveland when he was on the couch and
then this year in Indy's funding the postgame interview. But yes,
Antheon Richardson in addition to getting hurt again just isn't
that good. And it's like one of those things like, hey,
(29:05):
how far out of the Colts if this guy can
come in and win games for him? Yeah, So it's
a it's a big deal because it does show Anthey
Richardson's continuing inadequacies and how I don't want to say
it's simple, but if you have a guy who can
just do what they're asking you to do with Shane
Steiken's offense, even if a guy's old and not really
(29:25):
an athlete, then then you'll you'll be okay.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
I also it makes me like really sit and wonder
how the Browns let him go after what he did
last year. But apparently, I don't know if you've heard
this story, Adam Kaplan actually told Dan Byer and Carrie
Rhodes this yesterday that the Browns didn't want to keep
him on. He's Adam Kaplan said that this is what
he thinks, that they didn't want to keep him on
(29:50):
because they didn't think it was going to be good
for Deshaun Watson's ego, of course, not that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
What's crazy about it?
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Did you come out wanting to have a great backup quarterback?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
What exchange of Flacco after the game? Yes, the reporter
did you hear this?
Speaker 8 (30:05):
Oh it's so cute.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
We got to play it.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Go.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
He told me his mom is eight days older than
I am.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
So there's no chance in the world that he.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Thinks I'm cool with So.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
I love that.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
He really is just so likable.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
An NFL player's mom is thirty nine years old.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
Yeah, incredible, it's crazy, it is.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
It is.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
All right. Let's move on here to our next one coach.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
Big deal, little deal or no deal That Patriots head
coach Jerod Mayo is sticking by Jacoby Brissett, saying he
is one hundred percent their starter moving forward.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Uh, that's a big deal. It's a big deal because
I don't understand it. Nobody understands it. Yeah, right, Supposedly
he was better in the preseason than Brissette. Yet you
know he won to Brisett being the older guy to
kind of show him the way. But like we got
(31:02):
in this point where like, okay, Jacoby Brisset's not good.
Let's move on. And yet he won't move one, won't
do it. I don't. I don't understand it at all.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Do you think it just has a little bit we're
seeing all of these roocky young quarterbacks are kind of
thrown out there and it's there.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
It's hard for them. So maybe it's just like Drake May,
you know, like he just wants them to sit and
watch listen.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I understand that, and I don't I think there's a
path for success doing that. I just don't know if
like Brissette is just not good and I don't like
we're really gonna sit him and you're playing everybody else. Yeah,
I get it. And part of that is when the expectations,
like the Bears, the expectations are high. Now they've gotten
(31:45):
the two and two and and Caleb still hasn't played well.
So you can lose your confidence. You can throw a
guy out there too soon, you can mess the guy up.
I get that, And maybe that's their thing. You bring
up a really good point, but I thought you had
to be calmly quarterbacked. And I'm a little disappointed where
Jacob Brissett is right now with that offense.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Yeah, I hear you, I hear you. Okay, let's move
on here. Big deal, little deal are no deal?
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Coach that Texas fell in the A people from number
one to number two after beating Mississippi State Saturday, Alabama
coming in at number one, because Alabama is Alabama until
they're not.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I think it's kind of a big deal because it's like, yeah,
they beat Georgia, and they were they were crushing Georgia,
but Georgia did take the lead. I'm not sure what
Texas did wrong. You know, they beat an SEC team
on the road without their starting quarterback. Yeah, yeah, so
I don't think it matters, but it's at least interesting.
So let's go a little deal.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
Okay, all right, let's stay here with college football because
this story is just nuts to me.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
UNLV they won Saturday without that quarterback Matthew Sluka, who
decided that he wasn't going to play anymore due to
an nil.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
We'll say it's a misunderstanding.
Speaker 9 (33:02):
I've heard different stories, but UNLV improved to four.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
I know for the season.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Without him. That's a big deal. Yeah, because the propular,
the popular presumption is he leaves. Running back leaves as well,
and it becomes house of cards and we'll see how
long it lasts. But it's again, I think Sam said
this last week. It's not like he's been killing it. Yeah,
(33:29):
you know, mm hmm. So it's a weird one.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
It is.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
Especially I heard that there was like a casino mogul
or somebody that was just willing to give him the
money so that he would stay.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
No, it was, it was, it was. I don't know
if it was casino, but yes, it was somebody in
Vegas and somebody Vegas.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
The problem with it though, is like, now you've gotten
to the point where if you said you're not playing
unless you get X money, then you get X money.
Then why wouldn't anybody else in the team do that? Right? Right?
Speaker 9 (33:57):
No, Yes, it's it's a slippery slope for sure, No one. Okay,
let's move on to baseball here and a quick update
on the Mets and the Braves. Braves are back on
top in Game one, seven to sixth, top of the
ninth inning, So big deal, little deal, no deal. Show
Hey o Tani coming four percentage points shorts of shorts
of winning the National League batting title, securing the Triple Crown,
(34:19):
Luis Ares gets it, making history, third time in a row,
third team, third different team, only player to have done it.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
But Showyotanni was so close.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
So what is the big deal? A little deal or
no deal about that show?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
Hey, o, TONI didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It was a little deal.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
It was a little deal.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I mean, look, if well, can I change sure? Yeah,
you're right, it's my show. I'm gonna go big deal.
And I'll only tell you why because you could make
the argument if he has the first fifty to fifty
season and he has a triple crown, Yeah, he literally
has the best season anyone's ever had. Yep, he still
may have that anyway, but it makes it a stronger argument.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
Yeah, agreed, so close. It was just so close.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
It was it was.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
It would have been perfect.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
You couldn't have scripted better for Shoho Tony's first season
with the doctors we need.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Jason Stewart, Jason, let me say, Hollywood would have thrown
out that script.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
If you would have taken it into the pitch meeting,
they would have kicked you out.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
But the person that came in with the pitch that
a snail is going to win the Indianapolis five hundred.
They're like, yeah, that sounds perfectly reasonable. What's What's green White?
That movie?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Just like we drew it up?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
All right?
Speaker 9 (35:34):
Quick?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Wait here dog? Big deal, Little deal, No deal. Brianna
Stewart the New York Liberty.
Speaker 9 (35:38):
They beat the defending champion Aces in game one of
their best of five w A semi finals.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
No deal cares.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
What about Kelsey Plum talking to Spike Lee.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
But that was a fun interaction between Spike Lee and
Kelsey Plum. They like back and forth.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Ailla. I mean Karl Anthony Towns was traded. That's way
bigger than the actual games in the w NBA.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Well yeah, okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Last week, Sam, did you pay attention to the WNB
You've been our w NBA insider all season long, or
did you shut down for the offseason because Caitlyn lost.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
I'll just say I've been paying attention to it a
little bit, but it definitely My focus on the league
has tapered off since since the Fever have exited the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Yep, he's tapering as most people are. I think that's
game time.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
That is game time.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
This is game time on the Gottlieb Show coming.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Next to The Dug Gotlip Show, live from the tire
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