June 3, 2024 • 32 mins
Doug gives his take on what happened this past weekend with Caitlin Clark and the fallout from her incident with Sky guard Chennedy Carter. Doug welcomes Outkick commentator and former basketball coach Dan Dakich onto the show to address what is really going on with Caitlin Clark in the WNBA. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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good day. Great, you had a good weekend, spectacular NBA Finals.
Still a couple of days away, Still a couple days away.
We got big breaking news. You heard from Dan Byer
brokerl this morning that Justin Jefferson got his bag. Could
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you get your bag? Get your bag? Uh? He is
now again. And this is based upon the Twitter sphere.
The highest paid non quarterback in the National Football League.
And and I will tell you what they're doing in
Minnesota and what team it mirrors and why it's painfully
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obvious how and why that tank team is mirroring they're
mirroring that team. Yeah, I may have jumbled my words,
but you know what I'm saying. But it's it's interesting
right that I feel compelled to start today's show talking
about a topic which we've been talking about here for
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a couple of weeks, and a subject or a woman
who we've been talking about for a couple of months,
a sport not basketball, but women's basketball, which we never
talked about previously. And honestly, that to me is what's
behind so much of this. So over the weekend, Caitlyn
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Clark had she had a rough go of it. Now,
it started on Friday night when they beat Chicago, they
beat the Chicago Sky and of course there was the
Chnity Carter foul and apparently if you watch the film,
she caught it like invertont elbow from Caitlyn Clark and
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runs up and hip checks her when she wasn't expecting it,
and you know, the twitters fear kind of explodes. Now,
fast forward to yesterday and the Indiana Fever got curb
stomped by the New York Liberty and Caitlyn Clark had
far and away her worst game as a professional player,
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probably her worst game all year if you factor in
when she played collegiately. I only think think it's close, right,
one of ten, three points, one of seven from three.
That's not good. So it's pretty obvious to anybody with
a brain that the ladies of the WNBA, not all
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of them, but a good number of them set their
sights on when Caitlyn Clark plays. We're gonna shut her down,
and we're gonna we're gonna welcome her to the w
our style. Now, the Chicago Sky has coach named Teresa Weatherspoon.
If you know Teresa Westpoon's great player, great player, she said, Chnity,
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Clark and the team will learn from an incident in
Saturday's game when Carter committed a flagrant one foul. Quote
physical play, intensity and competitive spirit are hallmarks of Chicago
Sky basketball. Chnnity got caught up in the heat of
the moment in effort to win the game. She and
I have discussed what happens was not appropriate. It's not
what we do, not who we are. Shennity understands that
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are better ways to handle situations on the court. She
will learn from this we all are. It's fine. I'm
not gonna make a big statement about her. The statement whatever,
you're either coaching it or allowing it. That's the challenges
for me, right, Like, if you don't lay down the
law over somebody's behavior, your sideline, decorum, bided language, shot selection,
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you know, obviously at the collegiate level you got other
things as well. If you don't, you're allowing it. But man,
has this Caitlin Clark thing taken on more and more life.
Pat McAfee chimed in earlier today and he had this
interesting take.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
What the w NBA currently has is what we like
to describe as a cash cow. There is a superstar.
And we're not saying that the players on the courteneyed
act any differently. That's the athletes are going to do
what athletes are going to do in any sport. I
think we're all learning that WNBA that's old school football.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But yeah, that is old school football.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But I would like the media people that continue to
say this rookie class, this rookie class, this rookie class,
not just call it for what it is. There's one
white for the Indiana team who is a superstar.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, I don't know why he added in the B
word there whatever, although that's what Kennedy Carter called her.
I'm not offended by it, and I think it's I
think it's honestly, it's pat trying to draw attention to himself, right,
Like there's no real take there other than the honesty,
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which is nobody cares about this league except for Kaitlin Clark.
I can't help you otherwise. Every metric tells you that.
And the problem here is that we're wrapping in we
gets wrapped up in. It is all of the first
the main thing I think is the jealousy over the
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attention that she's getting. And I don't look at jealousy
as a bad thing, but how you process that jealousy
and what you do with that energy is where so
many of these women make themselves look like they're teenage girls.
But the reality is that if you want to tell
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us that women aren't caddy and women aren't jealous, the
women aren't different. Women are similar to men. And how
they handle themselves that you can say all you want,
but how they have propored themselves is like Zion Williamson
came in with gigantic expectations did any of this happen
to him? Lebron James, did any of this happen to him?
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And I'll grant you that. There's even the fact that
her teammates were nowhere to be found when she gets
hip checked and she's laying there, whereas it's your jo.
We can go more into this on the podcast. My
first game at Notre Dame was an exhibition game against
the German professional team and we lost the game. But
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the next morning when we watch film, and the whole
focus of the next practice was the fact that they
had a seven footer who took a couple of cheap
shots on our guards, and the fact that he wasn't
taken out by our big guys and fouled hard by
our big guys on the next possession, or we foul
one of their guards, like that's how the sport works.
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Oh you wanna found me, that's okay, don't drive to
the hoop because we're gonna we're gonna clean you out.
But there was none of that. So there's only three possibilities,
and we do have to open ourselves up to the
third possibility. Here's the first one. These women are just jealous.
Caddie they don't know how to handle it. That to
me is the most likely scenario. Stereo two is the
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the Fever just don't have good culture and it hasn't
been discussed and their coach does not know what she's doing.
A possibility, probably not likely because all of these women
have played basketball for years and they know how it's
supposed to go. And here's the third possibility. It is
possible that Caitlin Clark and look, I know people around her.
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I haven't heard this from anybody around her, but it's
possible that she rubs people the wrong way, that she's
aloof that all this attention makes her kind of separate
from the team, and because she's separate from the team,
they're like, hey, you want to be a superstar, you
handle yourself. We don't need It's possible. I think the
most likely scenario is just rampant and jealousy. Hey, we've
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been grinding away our whole lives. We've traveled all over
the world to play basketball. I mean Kennedy Carter, She's
been in and out of the WNBA, She's played overseas,
she's played in Turkey. You know, you've been grinding, and
only now they're paying attention because this girl, who I
don't think is very good. Now, I'm not saying me,
I'm saying other women. Why does she get the shine
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instead of embracing the shine and using it to propel everybody?
There's why her? What's so special about her? My point
is always it doesn't matter. And if you're jealous and
you want your own, then beat her. That's the biggest
clown show of Kennedy Carter deal was there's no mention
of the fact that they lost the game by one
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point and that foul gets you free free throws, and
the free throws end up being the deciding factor in
the game. It's it's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I didn't tell you guys this, but we've come up
with a motto at Green Bay this year, motto, do
you want to know what it is? You guys intrigued
it all?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Please, let's do it?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Walk the walk?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Oh, it's good you like that kind of reminds me
of the old four season song walk like a Man.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, this one is more. You know, it's the old
you can talk to talk, but you gotta walk the walk.
It's expression I love and again I'm I'm accused because
I've been a talker my entire professional career of Okay,
I've talked about it. Now I get to walk it.
And that's the issue with all these women. They want
to talk it, but they won't walk it. No one
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cares about all of your past issues or that the
league used to fly commercial or you know, you bounce
some marina and arena, or they don't care. I'm sorry
that no one paid attention to your league for twenty
five years. That's that's called business, okay. And in the
real business world, the sport probably would have gone under,
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but it looked good for the NBA for a long
time and they stuck with it. And now they're going
to make legitimate money on it, but not for long
if you guys can't get your ship together. So I
just this is the worst parts of women. And look,
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there's bad parts of men too. Let's just be honest, like,
dudes have all different sorts of things within us that
separate us from from women, Okay, that make us different
than what Venus and Marizona's Mars and Venus. But the
reality is, and I've seen this in our profession men
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as women, and it's I it's I get it. It's
really really hard to be a woman. You ask any
I'm gonna tell you something that everyone in the industry
knows that nobody talks about on air. Women feel like
once they hit the age of forty, everybody wants to
put them behind the desk. That when they're young and
they're vibrant and they're beautiful, they're sideline reporters. And then
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or they're they're standing up, and when they get older
and even when they're talented, they put them behind the desk, right,
And that sucks. That's wrong because no one judges guys,
how old is Tom Rinaldi, who's great by the way,
you know any of these other men who do things
nobody but women. That's what the industry has done to
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women for years. Well, the issue that I've always seen
is women in our profession. It's not that they're not united,
it's that they're incredibly divisive towards each other. The cattiness
and jealousy is a real thing. Like you go by
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the makeup room when there's a woman getting her makeup done,
and all it is is a bitch fest about all
the different problems and usually problems with other women. I
find this to be like a fascinating study of human nature.
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I mean, Caitlyn Clark clearly struggling. She's a rookie. I'm
sure there's gonna be some fatigue set in, not just
because she played in a college season that went to
the championship game and there's virtually no break, but also
all these other things that she's done. It's exhausting, and
she's the focal point of scatter report and she's they're
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breaking her down and she's struggling at times to be herself.
I get it. She's playing against better competition and they're
playing a ton of games and there's a ton of attention.
I have no doubt she's exhausted. So I'm sure that's
going to hurt her play. But man, on some level,
you give credit to the WNBA because they figured out
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a way to make themselves relevant when they've been irrelevant
for years. On the other hand, somebody needs to tell
these ladies, hey, just because there's NBA attached to the
w doesn't mean that you're in the NBA. And everything
in this league is like a caricature of what women
believe the NBA is like. It's like you crank it
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up to a notch of like three or four. Right,
do they welcome rookies to the NBA?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Is it so over the top and right there where
no one like you didn't even hide it, Like what
are you doing? The trash talk is the same, dudes,
trash talk, but you don't see them like stopping and
yelling and pointing to nearly it's overly dramatic. It's more
like the WWE than it is like the NBA. And
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you know, I believe that that in many ways, foreign
players are like that as well. Like one of the
reasons that foreign players curse so much is because they're
they're modeling what they think or they see how guys talk. Yeah,
the problem with that is when they first get when
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you first are with an American teammate. American teammates always
and I know this when I was the American teammate,
we always teach you the good curse words, and we
always want to know the curse words. I can tell
you curse words in Hebrew and in Russian, and in
Spanish and in French. I can't speak a lick of
French undue taca, right, but other than that, can't. But
I can tell the curse word Hebrew. I can't read it.
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I know a couple phrases out of the cursewords. The
point is, that's what the WNBA is. It's a caricature
of what they believe the NBA is like. And then
you ramp it all up to like a power of three,
if you will. So the good news is we're still
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talking about it. The bad news is it's exhausting and
there's not the payoff of the NBA in the NFL
in terms of the quality of play.
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has me on his show, I feel compelled to always
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D Dan Dakich. You can see his show on OutKick.
It's called Don't At Me Monday through Friday, nine am
to eleven am Eastern time. Of course, he was a
longtime college basketball analyst, and before that he was a
head coach hit to Indiana at Bowling Green, of course
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at West Virginia for a very short stint, and then
a longtime college basketball analyst on ESPN and Double D
joints us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. I have
my own kind of thoughts and maybe hypotheses as to
what has caused the WNBA to be so negative in
how in their approach of Kaitlin Clark. What are your thoughts, Dan,
(16:51):
You're in Indy.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
You're a much deeper thinker than I am. And by
the way, congrats on the new gig man, that's gonna
be fun to watch. I've becomeing X fan and I'm
really looking forward to it. And you get to control
of the national narrative on you because you got your show,
so good for you, man, Yeah, it's perfect. My thoughts
are what my wife told me. My wife coached for years,
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was an All American player, took Toledo to the college
World series was an Olympic alternate, winning his coach at
Bowling Green, winning his coach at Syracuse, and she said, look,
you got to understand women are always going to try
to tear other women down in sports. They just do.
And she's dealt with it her whole life. She understands it.
And I see a lot of that. I see women
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trying to tear women down. I see jealousy, I see
insecurity people may seem race. But I defer in these
instances to my wife. And when she said that, and
I put it on Twitter, pointed, I have a number
of women that have been in athletics reach out to
her and to me saying, you are so right. Obviously,
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and Caitlin Clark has touched a nerve in the nation
with her play. Her style is something that we can
all relate to. It's different. A lot of people race
baiters have made it to a black white a sex
you know, straight lesbian thing. Yeah, maybe that all factors in,
but my wife's saying what she said to me really
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hit a chord with me. Women cannot stand to see
other women be successful and they want to turn them down.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And thank you, thank you. Listen, we had this conversation,
and you and I have both we worked at the ESPN, right,
and then I've worked at CBS and at Fox. At CBS,
I would say, I don't think that's the case. I
actually want to really give give credit to CBS because
CBS was different. It's a much smaller shop. But really
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felt like it was it was it was different. I mean,
Tracy is a really sweetheart. And of course Ali LaForce
and Dana Jacobson, I know she's doing news now. It
was different. But at ESPN and Fox, I can tell
you unequivocally, okay, that the way women talk about, treat
and are caddy about other women in the same field.
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And the crazy part about it is, and here's the
similarities being broadcasting and women's professional basketball. Is like like
there's a fight for relevancy and legitimacy, right, and so
why wouldn't they be all in it together? And yet
they tear each other apart, Like it's crazy what happens
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in the broadcast world. I know you've seen it as well.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Oh man, he is Penn. I've been told right now
the worst it's ever been, you know, in the makeup
room and the air deal. I've been told by people
still there. You and I both have friends there that
this is a complete blank show. Yeah. I mean, you know,
instead of just doing the job, people want to I guess,
get cloud progress their career. And that's cool. Hey, look
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I get it, but I would argue that ultimately that's
short lived. Now, maybe it works for a while, but
you are so right, Doug. In the broadcast world, oh
the cattiness, the talking to and you know what, I'll
tell you this, that's men too. I mean, men do
it the same. In the broadcast world. They to say no, no, no,
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no, no no. I agree, it's not the same, but I
still think they do it. Sports is a little bit
different because it's so performance based. I'm gonna ask you
something you don't have liked. You know what. I would
have liked to see that Carter girl do instead of
act like a complete moron in the press conference after
and the girl Cardoza's doing her hair, they're too they're
acting like two complete idiots. I would have loved to
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see that Carter girl say, hey, you know what, I
don't like Caitlin Clark. I don't like her. Yeah, I
did something that I shouldn't have done. I knocked her
on her backside when I shouldn't have. But I just
don't like her. I don't like the publicity she's getting.
I think she talks a lot of trash. I don't
think she's deserving, and I don't like her. And if
you have a problem with what I did, I don't
blame you. I would have loved to have seen that,
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so at least, you know what, Caitlin Clark, I'm sure
rub the women the wrong way by what she's saying.
Of course, it rubs people the wrong way. What she's getting.
You know, it's like those old white golfers when Tiger Woods,
you know, got all the stuff from Nike and got
all the attention. They're saying, well, let's see what he
does on the course, And well, he did it on
the course, and Caitlin Clark's doing it on the course.
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I wish they'd just come out and be honest. Look,
got to like her as opposed to trying to do
whatever it is that they're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
It's it's really interesting the other part too, It is like,
this is the first time. Why do you think that
there are so many either women in the WNBA or
people that cover the WNBA that are so bothered by
the fact that nobody paid attention to the league for
the first twenty five years.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Well, I think this is like, you know, a defense
mechanism and insecurity, see, we've been doing this for twenty
five years. No you haven't, No you haven't. And as
great as some of these have been, none of them
are interesting. None of them captured the imagination. I mean, look,
Brittany Grinder is unlikable, Dina Trossi is unlikable. You can
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say whatever you like, but they are. And all of
a sudden, here comes a woman in Caitlin Clark that
plays in a way that I think the way she
plays hit perfect. You know, Steph Curry shooting threes became
okay for everybody shoot deep threes. All of a sudden,
here comes somebody that just captured it. And I would
argue that if somebody played like Caitlin Clark, with the
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edge that Caitlin Clark had and played for Iowa, not
Yukon or not South Carolina, I think they might have
captured whether she was white, black, straight, lesbian, whatever, but
all those things hit for Caitlin Clark. And you know what,
the insecurity comes out in the media, like the woman
today with stephen A. Smith. I forget her name, but
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she telling stephen A. Smith. You could have been talking
about this three years ago. No, Doug, you hosted the
show on ESPN. Play the hits. ESPN is gonna talk
about Lebron, They're going to talk about Brett Farr back
in the day. They're good. Play the damn hits and
the hits three years ago, two years ago, even a
year ago, had absolutely nothing to do. Doug. I'll end
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with this. I've done radio shows in any for fifteen years.
I took one year off last year on a non compete.
The year previous to that, the fever played. I did
not mention the fever one time. Got to the end
of the season and my producer goes, hey, Dan, we
haven't even said the word fever. Right. They're terrible, They're uninteresting.
Now they're not. So these folks need to get over it.
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The WNBA players need to figure out. If you don't
like her, say it. Let's get something good going here,
not something stupid like knocking somebody out of bounds when
they don't have a ball.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Dan docs joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb show.
You can you can see his show Don't at Me
on OutKick nine am to eleven am Eastern Time, every day,
Monday through Friday. In regards to the actual league, the NBA,
what do you think find.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Oh Man, I'm Serbian, Lucas Serbian. I'm supposed to love Luca,
but I can't stand the way he plays and then
he hits the big shot. I don't learn something about him.
And I've always really liked Kyrie Irving. To me, Kyrie
Irving is the closest thing Isaiah Thomas that I have seen.
And I'll say this, I watched every minute of every
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Pacer game against Boston, and some of it from about
the third row. I was lucky enough to get seats close.
If Boston gives the opportunities to Dallas that they gave
to Indiana, they're gonna get beat And Boston, you know,
I think, is the smartest basketball team that I may
have ever seen. I mean this, Derek White, El Horford
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and Drew Holliday are like basketball savants. Dog. I couldn't
stop watching Al Horford direct players on defense offense. And
this Eric White, he makes every play. But if they
give the opportunity, and I don't think they will. I
think they'll be a little tighter. If they give the
same opportunities to Dallas, they're gonna get beaten six. I
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think Boston's really good. I think Boston's really smart. I
think Boston will figure out a way. But I love
this final. I don't know if it's sexy. I don't
know if it's not, but I love this final. And
everybody that bad mouths Kyrie Irving, good for you, man.
I mean, I know they'reth this flatin all that stupid stuff.
But that boy, that ball. That man can ball, I
mean ball, big time ball, and I can't wait to
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see it because I love him. I saw him four
years ago kill I mean kill the Pacers here in
a sweep with Boston, and I'm looking forward to seeing
what he can do against Boston. It's going to be fun,
a lot of storylines.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
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you're the best man. I wish you could bring some
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Speaker 5 (25:58):
Hey, congrats again, my friend, good luck.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You told me I was I told you it was
like a year ago. I think it was a year ago.
Right when I I didn't get the job, you were
like you sure you want to do this? Like yeah,
and you asked me why, and I gave you the
reasons why. You're like, all right, man, well then i'll
you should go. Then then do it when you want
to do it. I finally got a shot to do it.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah, finally someone was smart enough to hire you. Man,
Now you got to go live in the cold. I
assume I assume you're not assuming coaching. I assume you're home.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, we will, We'll be there, We'll be there. The
question when are you coming up?
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I am coming. I want to see I like that place.
I got my brains beat out there twice, but I
don't mind it. We want a couple there too, So yeah,
I want to go. I want to see your team.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm glad you're you're You're welcome. You and you and
your bride are welcome anytime. Thanks Dan, thanks for joining mean.
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Speaker 3 (27:17):
This is game time on the Doug Gott leader.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Comparable Dan Byer is here with the game. Dan. What
he got, Doug?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
That Chicago Sky coach Teresa Witherspoon called the Carter foul
on Caitlin Clark. The Kennedy Carter foul on Kaitlin Clark
is quote not appropriate end quote.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Uh little deal. You know there's no big bold statement.
On the other hand, she did not say she allowed it.
No big deal, little deal?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
All right, big deal, a little deal or no deal.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
That Kennedy Carter called Caitlin Clark nothing more than a
three point shooter.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I think that's a big deal. I think it's a
big deal. I think I mean, obviously there's just a
huge amount of jealousy there. And look, Kaitlin Clark has
got to figure out ways, you know, other ways to
score but she's definitely getting this. She's there's definitely some
like every here. I said this earlier, and I'm not
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sure if I'm articulating it the right way. But when
I say a caricature, that's what I believe. And I
even think Kaitlin Clark is a caricature of Steph Curry. Right,
It's like, yeah, she plays that Steph, only she shoots
I don't know, about ten percent worse from three point range. Right. Yes,
she will make some great creative passes, but the turnover
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rate is super high. She's like sixty I think it's
like sixty six to fifty eight and assistant turnover ratio.
So I think it's a big part of how she's
viewed by people in the WNBA that she's not afflic
enough to get in the lane, so she just fires
(29:10):
away deep threes. A lot of it is just competitive
jealousy or just outright jealousy. But I think it's a
little deal because we all knew part of this was
the deal.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal that the commanders caught
kicker Brendan McManus after he's facing allegations of sexual assault
following last year's flight from London with the Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
That's a little deal or not, that's no deal. I mean,
I understand that you have to be allowed due process.
And it's weird that this comes out now. It's also
Stranger's two different women, but she got to read the room.
This is the Washington commanders and they had an absolute
abject disaster in the front office with all the nonsense
(29:55):
and sexual harassment that was going on previously. So because
of that, there's there's less than a zero tolerance policy
there completely understanding.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
That Justin Jefferson is now the highest paid non quarterback
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I think that's a big deal because I gotta tell you,
I wouldn't say that wide receiver is the second most
important position in the NFL, you know, m h. I
mean to me, defensive end would be, left tackle would be.
And I know that those guys are close in terms
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of money, But like when Nick Bosa what he did
in the Super Bowl up until when they lost the
Super Bowl, right, I mean, like that dude wrecked a
complete game. So I think that's the second most important position.
I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
All right, big deal, A little deal or no deal
that Robert McIntire won the RBC Canadian Open yesterday with
his dad as his caddie.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
If you haven't seen that interview with What's.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Bolonas's Amanda bellionis Amanda.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
She was great, but the dad was awesome, Awesome. That
interview is an all timer. It's a huge deal. I
mean that's all the feels in the world, Like you're
struggling and you call your dad, just have your dad
on the bag and then you win. That's amazing. Yeah,
that's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Came over from Scotland as well, and McIntyre even said
that he's likely to not play the Memorial this week,
US Opens next week, but that he's likely to go
home and celebrate that victory have back of a party. Yes,
finally a big deal, A little deal of an old deal.
That the Stanley Cup Final between Edmonton and Florida is
the biggest difference of latitude in a matchup we've ever
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seen in a.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Big four sport playoff series. Is it a big deal,
little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I think it's a big deal because it's never happened before,
literally never happen before. Edmonton Alberta to Florida.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
People now know where Edmonton is on a map, and
that's game time.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
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good day. Great, you had a good weekend, spectacular NBA Finals.
Still a couple of days away, Still a couple days away.
We got big breaking news. You heard from Dan Byer
brokerl this morning that Justin Jefferson got his bag. Could
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you get your bag? Get your bag? Uh? He is
now again. And this is based upon the Twitter sphere.
The highest paid non quarterback in the National Football League.
And and I will tell you what they're doing in
Minnesota and what team it mirrors and why it's painfully
(01:07):
obvious how and why that tank team is mirroring they're
mirroring that team. Yeah, I may have jumbled my words,
but you know what I'm saying. But it's it's interesting
right that I feel compelled to start today's show talking
about a topic which we've been talking about here for
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a couple of weeks, and a subject or a woman
who we've been talking about for a couple of months,
a sport not basketball, but women's basketball, which we never
talked about previously. And honestly, that to me is what's
behind so much of this. So over the weekend, Caitlyn
(01:50):
Clark had she had a rough go of it. Now,
it started on Friday night when they beat Chicago, they
beat the Chicago Sky and of course there was the
Chnity Carter foul and apparently if you watch the film,
she caught it like invertont elbow from Caitlyn Clark and
(02:12):
runs up and hip checks her when she wasn't expecting it,
and you know, the twitters fear kind of explodes. Now,
fast forward to yesterday and the Indiana Fever got curb
stomped by the New York Liberty and Caitlyn Clark had
far and away her worst game as a professional player,
(02:32):
probably her worst game all year if you factor in
when she played collegiately. I only think think it's close, right,
one of ten, three points, one of seven from three.
That's not good. So it's pretty obvious to anybody with
a brain that the ladies of the WNBA, not all
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of them, but a good number of them set their
sights on when Caitlyn Clark plays. We're gonna shut her down,
and we're gonna we're gonna welcome her to the w
our style. Now, the Chicago Sky has coach named Teresa Weatherspoon.
If you know Teresa Westpoon's great player, great player, she said, Chnity,
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Clark and the team will learn from an incident in
Saturday's game when Carter committed a flagrant one foul. Quote
physical play, intensity and competitive spirit are hallmarks of Chicago
Sky basketball. Chnnity got caught up in the heat of
the moment in effort to win the game. She and
I have discussed what happens was not appropriate. It's not
what we do, not who we are. Shennity understands that
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are better ways to handle situations on the court. She
will learn from this we all are. It's fine. I'm
not gonna make a big statement about her. The statement whatever,
you're either coaching it or allowing it. That's the challenges
for me, right, Like, if you don't lay down the
law over somebody's behavior, your sideline, decorum, bided language, shot selection,
(04:04):
you know, obviously at the collegiate level you got other
things as well. If you don't, you're allowing it. But man,
has this Caitlin Clark thing taken on more and more life.
Pat McAfee chimed in earlier today and he had this
interesting take.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
What the w NBA currently has is what we like
to describe as a cash cow. There is a superstar.
And we're not saying that the players on the courteneyed
act any differently. That's the athletes are going to do
what athletes are going to do in any sport. I
think we're all learning that WNBA that's old school football.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But yeah, that is old school football.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But I would like the media people that continue to
say this rookie class, this rookie class, this rookie class,
not just call it for what it is. There's one
white for the Indiana team who is a superstar.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, I don't know why he added in the B
word there whatever, although that's what Kennedy Carter called her.
I'm not offended by it, and I think it's I
think it's honestly, it's pat trying to draw attention to himself, right,
Like there's no real take there other than the honesty,
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which is nobody cares about this league except for Kaitlin Clark.
I can't help you otherwise. Every metric tells you that.
And the problem here is that we're wrapping in we
gets wrapped up in. It is all of the first
the main thing I think is the jealousy over the
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attention that she's getting. And I don't look at jealousy
as a bad thing, but how you process that jealousy
and what you do with that energy is where so
many of these women make themselves look like they're teenage girls.
But the reality is that if you want to tell
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us that women aren't caddy and women aren't jealous, the
women aren't different. Women are similar to men. And how
they handle themselves that you can say all you want,
but how they have propored themselves is like Zion Williamson
came in with gigantic expectations did any of this happen
to him? Lebron James, did any of this happen to him?
(06:29):
And I'll grant you that. There's even the fact that
her teammates were nowhere to be found when she gets
hip checked and she's laying there, whereas it's your jo.
We can go more into this on the podcast. My
first game at Notre Dame was an exhibition game against
the German professional team and we lost the game. But
(06:51):
the next morning when we watch film, and the whole
focus of the next practice was the fact that they
had a seven footer who took a couple of cheap
shots on our guards, and the fact that he wasn't
taken out by our big guys and fouled hard by
our big guys on the next possession, or we foul
one of their guards, like that's how the sport works.
(07:11):
Oh you wanna found me, that's okay, don't drive to
the hoop because we're gonna we're gonna clean you out.
But there was none of that. So there's only three possibilities,
and we do have to open ourselves up to the
third possibility. Here's the first one. These women are just jealous.
Caddie they don't know how to handle it. That to
me is the most likely scenario. Stereo two is the
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the Fever just don't have good culture and it hasn't
been discussed and their coach does not know what she's doing.
A possibility, probably not likely because all of these women
have played basketball for years and they know how it's
supposed to go. And here's the third possibility. It is
possible that Caitlin Clark and look, I know people around her.
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I haven't heard this from anybody around her, but it's
possible that she rubs people the wrong way, that she's
aloof that all this attention makes her kind of separate
from the team, and because she's separate from the team,
they're like, hey, you want to be a superstar, you
handle yourself. We don't need It's possible. I think the
most likely scenario is just rampant and jealousy. Hey, we've
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been grinding away our whole lives. We've traveled all over
the world to play basketball. I mean Kennedy Carter, She's
been in and out of the WNBA, She's played overseas,
she's played in Turkey. You know, you've been grinding, and
only now they're paying attention because this girl, who I
don't think is very good. Now, I'm not saying me,
I'm saying other women. Why does she get the shine
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instead of embracing the shine and using it to propel everybody?
There's why her? What's so special about her? My point
is always it doesn't matter. And if you're jealous and
you want your own, then beat her. That's the biggest
clown show of Kennedy Carter deal was there's no mention
of the fact that they lost the game by one
(09:04):
point and that foul gets you free free throws, and
the free throws end up being the deciding factor in
the game. It's it's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I didn't tell you guys this, but we've come up
with a motto at Green Bay this year, motto, do
you want to know what it is? You guys intrigued
it all?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Please, let's do it?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Walk the walk?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Oh, it's good you like that kind of reminds me
of the old four season song walk like a Man.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, this one is more. You know, it's the old
you can talk to talk, but you gotta walk the walk.
It's expression I love and again I'm I'm accused because
I've been a talker my entire professional career of Okay,
I've talked about it. Now I get to walk it.
And that's the issue with all these women. They want
to talk it, but they won't walk it. No one
(10:02):
cares about all of your past issues or that the
league used to fly commercial or you know, you bounce
some marina and arena, or they don't care. I'm sorry
that no one paid attention to your league for twenty
five years. That's that's called business, okay. And in the
real business world, the sport probably would have gone under,
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but it looked good for the NBA for a long
time and they stuck with it. And now they're going
to make legitimate money on it, but not for long
if you guys can't get your ship together. So I
just this is the worst parts of women. And look,
(10:50):
there's bad parts of men too. Let's just be honest, like,
dudes have all different sorts of things within us that
separate us from from women, Okay, that make us different
than what Venus and Marizona's Mars and Venus. But the
reality is, and I've seen this in our profession men
(11:13):
as women, and it's I it's I get it. It's
really really hard to be a woman. You ask any
I'm gonna tell you something that everyone in the industry
knows that nobody talks about on air. Women feel like
once they hit the age of forty, everybody wants to
put them behind the desk. That when they're young and
they're vibrant and they're beautiful, they're sideline reporters. And then
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or they're they're standing up, and when they get older
and even when they're talented, they put them behind the desk, right,
And that sucks. That's wrong because no one judges guys,
how old is Tom Rinaldi, who's great by the way,
you know any of these other men who do things
nobody but women. That's what the industry has done to
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women for years. Well, the issue that I've always seen
is women in our profession. It's not that they're not united,
it's that they're incredibly divisive towards each other. The cattiness
and jealousy is a real thing. Like you go by
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the makeup room when there's a woman getting her makeup done,
and all it is is a bitch fest about all
the different problems and usually problems with other women. I
find this to be like a fascinating study of human nature.
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I mean, Caitlyn Clark clearly struggling. She's a rookie. I'm
sure there's gonna be some fatigue set in, not just
because she played in a college season that went to
the championship game and there's virtually no break, but also
all these other things that she's done. It's exhausting, and
she's the focal point of scatter report and she's they're
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breaking her down and she's struggling at times to be herself.
I get it. She's playing against better competition and they're
playing a ton of games and there's a ton of attention.
I have no doubt she's exhausted. So I'm sure that's
going to hurt her play. But man, on some level,
you give credit to the WNBA because they figured out
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a way to make themselves relevant when they've been irrelevant
for years. On the other hand, somebody needs to tell
these ladies, hey, just because there's NBA attached to the
w doesn't mean that you're in the NBA. And everything
in this league is like a caricature of what women
believe the NBA is like. It's like you crank it
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up to a notch of like three or four. Right,
do they welcome rookies to the NBA?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Is it so over the top and right there where
no one like you didn't even hide it, Like what
are you doing? The trash talk is the same, dudes,
trash talk, but you don't see them like stopping and
yelling and pointing to nearly it's overly dramatic. It's more
like the WWE than it is like the NBA. And
(14:20):
you know, I believe that that in many ways, foreign
players are like that as well. Like one of the
reasons that foreign players curse so much is because they're
they're modeling what they think or they see how guys talk. Yeah,
the problem with that is when they first get when
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you first are with an American teammate. American teammates always
and I know this when I was the American teammate,
we always teach you the good curse words, and we
always want to know the curse words. I can tell
you curse words in Hebrew and in Russian, and in
Spanish and in French. I can't speak a lick of
French undue taca, right, but other than that, can't. But
I can tell the curse word Hebrew. I can't read it.
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I know a couple phrases out of the cursewords. The
point is, that's what the WNBA is. It's a caricature
of what they believe the NBA is like. And then
you ramp it all up to like a power of three,
if you will. So the good news is we're still
(15:24):
talking about it. The bad news is it's exhausting and
there's not the payoff of the NBA in the NFL
in terms of the quality of play.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
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has me on his show, I feel compelled to always
have him on my show. He's the one only double
D Dan Dakich. You can see his show on OutKick.
It's called Don't At Me Monday through Friday, nine am
to eleven am Eastern time. Of course, he was a
longtime college basketball analyst, and before that he was a
head coach hit to Indiana at Bowling Green, of course
(16:28):
at West Virginia for a very short stint, and then
a longtime college basketball analyst on ESPN and Double D
joints us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. I have
my own kind of thoughts and maybe hypotheses as to
what has caused the WNBA to be so negative in
how in their approach of Kaitlin Clark. What are your thoughts, Dan,
(16:51):
You're in Indy.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
You're a much deeper thinker than I am. And by
the way, congrats on the new gig man, that's gonna
be fun to watch. I've becomeing X fan and I'm
really looking forward to it. And you get to control
of the national narrative on you because you got your show,
so good for you, man, Yeah, it's perfect. My thoughts
are what my wife told me. My wife coached for years,
(17:15):
was an All American player, took Toledo to the college
World series was an Olympic alternate, winning his coach at
Bowling Green, winning his coach at Syracuse, and she said, look,
you got to understand women are always going to try
to tear other women down in sports. They just do.
And she's dealt with it her whole life. She understands it.
And I see a lot of that. I see women
(17:35):
trying to tear women down. I see jealousy, I see
insecurity people may seem race. But I defer in these
instances to my wife. And when she said that, and
I put it on Twitter, pointed, I have a number
of women that have been in athletics reach out to
her and to me saying, you are so right. Obviously,
(17:57):
and Caitlin Clark has touched a nerve in the nation
with her play. Her style is something that we can
all relate to. It's different. A lot of people race
baiters have made it to a black white a sex
you know, straight lesbian thing. Yeah, maybe that all factors in,
but my wife's saying what she said to me really
(18:17):
hit a chord with me. Women cannot stand to see
other women be successful and they want to turn them down.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And thank you, thank you. Listen, we had this conversation,
and you and I have both we worked at the ESPN, right,
and then I've worked at CBS and at Fox. At CBS,
I would say, I don't think that's the case. I
actually want to really give give credit to CBS because
CBS was different. It's a much smaller shop. But really
(18:43):
felt like it was it was it was different. I mean,
Tracy is a really sweetheart. And of course Ali LaForce
and Dana Jacobson, I know she's doing news now. It
was different. But at ESPN and Fox, I can tell
you unequivocally, okay, that the way women talk about, treat
and are caddy about other women in the same field.
(19:05):
And the crazy part about it is, and here's the
similarities being broadcasting and women's professional basketball. Is like like
there's a fight for relevancy and legitimacy, right, and so
why wouldn't they be all in it together? And yet
they tear each other apart, Like it's crazy what happens
(19:25):
in the broadcast world. I know you've seen it as well.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Oh man, he is Penn. I've been told right now
the worst it's ever been, you know, in the makeup
room and the air deal. I've been told by people
still there. You and I both have friends there that
this is a complete blank show. Yeah. I mean, you know,
instead of just doing the job, people want to I guess,
get cloud progress their career. And that's cool. Hey, look
(19:51):
I get it, but I would argue that ultimately that's
short lived. Now, maybe it works for a while, but
you are so right, Doug. In the broadcast world, oh
the cattiness, the talking to and you know what, I'll
tell you this, that's men too. I mean, men do
it the same. In the broadcast world. They to say no, no, no,
(20:11):
no, no no. I agree, it's not the same, but I
still think they do it. Sports is a little bit
different because it's so performance based. I'm gonna ask you
something you don't have liked. You know what. I would
have liked to see that Carter girl do instead of
act like a complete moron in the press conference after
and the girl Cardoza's doing her hair, they're too they're
acting like two complete idiots. I would have loved to
(20:34):
see that Carter girl say, hey, you know what, I
don't like Caitlin Clark. I don't like her. Yeah, I
did something that I shouldn't have done. I knocked her
on her backside when I shouldn't have. But I just
don't like her. I don't like the publicity she's getting.
I think she talks a lot of trash. I don't
think she's deserving, and I don't like her. And if
you have a problem with what I did, I don't
blame you. I would have loved to have seen that,
(20:56):
so at least, you know what, Caitlin Clark, I'm sure
rub the women the wrong way by what she's saying.
Of course, it rubs people the wrong way. What she's getting.
You know, it's like those old white golfers when Tiger Woods,
you know, got all the stuff from Nike and got
all the attention. They're saying, well, let's see what he
does on the course, And well, he did it on
the course, and Caitlin Clark's doing it on the course.
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I wish they'd just come out and be honest. Look,
got to like her as opposed to trying to do
whatever it is that they're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
It's it's really interesting the other part too, It is like,
this is the first time. Why do you think that
there are so many either women in the WNBA or
people that cover the WNBA that are so bothered by
the fact that nobody paid attention to the league for
the first twenty five years.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Well, I think this is like, you know, a defense
mechanism and insecurity, see, we've been doing this for twenty
five years. No you haven't, No you haven't. And as
great as some of these have been, none of them
are interesting. None of them captured the imagination. I mean, look,
Brittany Grinder is unlikable, Dina Trossi is unlikable. You can
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say whatever you like, but they are. And all of
a sudden, here comes a woman in Caitlin Clark that
plays in a way that I think the way she
plays hit perfect. You know, Steph Curry shooting threes became
okay for everybody shoot deep threes. All of a sudden,
here comes somebody that just captured it. And I would
argue that if somebody played like Caitlin Clark, with the
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edge that Caitlin Clark had and played for Iowa, not
Yukon or not South Carolina, I think they might have
captured whether she was white, black, straight, lesbian, whatever, but
all those things hit for Caitlin Clark. And you know what,
the insecurity comes out in the media, like the woman
today with stephen A. Smith. I forget her name, but
(22:52):
she telling stephen A. Smith. You could have been talking
about this three years ago. No, Doug, you hosted the
show on ESPN. Play the hits. ESPN is gonna talk
about Lebron, They're going to talk about Brett Farr back
in the day. They're good. Play the damn hits and
the hits three years ago, two years ago, even a
year ago, had absolutely nothing to do. Doug. I'll end
(23:13):
with this. I've done radio shows in any for fifteen years.
I took one year off last year on a non compete.
The year previous to that, the fever played. I did
not mention the fever one time. Got to the end
of the season and my producer goes, hey, Dan, we
haven't even said the word fever. Right. They're terrible, They're uninteresting.
Now they're not. So these folks need to get over it.
(23:37):
The WNBA players need to figure out. If you don't
like her, say it. Let's get something good going here,
not something stupid like knocking somebody out of bounds when
they don't have a ball.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Dan docs joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb show.
You can you can see his show Don't at Me
on OutKick nine am to eleven am Eastern Time, every day,
Monday through Friday. In regards to the actual league, the NBA,
what do you think find.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Oh Man, I'm Serbian, Lucas Serbian. I'm supposed to love Luca,
but I can't stand the way he plays and then
he hits the big shot. I don't learn something about him.
And I've always really liked Kyrie Irving. To me, Kyrie
Irving is the closest thing Isaiah Thomas that I have seen.
And I'll say this, I watched every minute of every
(24:30):
Pacer game against Boston, and some of it from about
the third row. I was lucky enough to get seats close.
If Boston gives the opportunities to Dallas that they gave
to Indiana, they're gonna get beat And Boston, you know,
I think, is the smartest basketball team that I may
have ever seen. I mean this, Derek White, El Horford
(24:50):
and Drew Holliday are like basketball savants. Dog. I couldn't
stop watching Al Horford direct players on defense offense. And
this Eric White, he makes every play. But if they
give the opportunity, and I don't think they will. I
think they'll be a little tighter. If they give the
same opportunities to Dallas, they're gonna get beaten six. I
(25:12):
think Boston's really good. I think Boston's really smart. I
think Boston will figure out a way. But I love
this final. I don't know if it's sexy. I don't
know if it's not, but I love this final. And
everybody that bad mouths Kyrie Irving, good for you, man.
I mean, I know they'reth this flatin all that stupid stuff.
But that boy, that ball. That man can ball, I
mean ball, big time ball, and I can't wait to
(25:35):
see it because I love him. I saw him four
years ago kill I mean kill the Pacers here in
a sweep with Boston, and I'm looking forward to seeing
what he can do against Boston. It's going to be fun,
a lot of storylines.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of the one and only doubd Dan dockets Dani,
you're the best man. I wish you could bring some
opinions and some energy next time.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Hey, congrats again, my friend, good luck.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You told me I was I told you it was
like a year ago. I think it was a year ago.
Right when I I didn't get the job, you were
like you sure you want to do this? Like yeah,
and you asked me why, and I gave you the
reasons why. You're like, all right, man, well then i'll
you should go. Then then do it when you want
to do it. I finally got a shot to do it.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah, finally someone was smart enough to hire you. Man,
Now you got to go live in the cold. I
assume I assume you're not assuming coaching. I assume you're home.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, we will, We'll be there, We'll be there. The
question when are you coming up?
Speaker 5 (26:35):
I am coming. I want to see I like that place.
I got my brains beat out there twice, but I
don't mind it. We want a couple there too, So yeah,
I want to go. I want to see your team.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm glad you're you're You're welcome. You and you and
your bride are welcome anytime. Thanks Dan, thanks for joining mean.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
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Speaker 3 (27:17):
This is game time on the Doug Gott leader.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Comparable Dan Byer is here with the game. Dan. What
he got, Doug?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
That Chicago Sky coach Teresa Witherspoon called the Carter foul
on Caitlin Clark. The Kennedy Carter foul on Kaitlin Clark
is quote not appropriate end quote.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Uh little deal. You know there's no big bold statement.
On the other hand, she did not say she allowed it.
No big deal, little deal?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
All right, big deal, a little deal or no deal.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
That Kennedy Carter called Caitlin Clark nothing more than a
three point shooter.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I think that's a big deal. I think it's a
big deal. I think I mean, obviously there's just a
huge amount of jealousy there. And look, Kaitlin Clark has
got to figure out ways, you know, other ways to
score but she's definitely getting this. She's there's definitely some
like every here. I said this earlier, and I'm not
(28:24):
sure if I'm articulating it the right way. But when
I say a caricature, that's what I believe. And I
even think Kaitlin Clark is a caricature of Steph Curry. Right,
It's like, yeah, she plays that Steph, only she shoots
I don't know, about ten percent worse from three point range. Right. Yes,
she will make some great creative passes, but the turnover
(28:49):
rate is super high. She's like sixty I think it's
like sixty six to fifty eight and assistant turnover ratio.
So I think it's a big part of how she's
viewed by people in the WNBA that she's not afflic
enough to get in the lane, so she just fires
(29:10):
away deep threes. A lot of it is just competitive
jealousy or just outright jealousy. But I think it's a
little deal because we all knew part of this was
the deal.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal that the commanders caught
kicker Brendan McManus after he's facing allegations of sexual assault
following last year's flight from London with the Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
That's a little deal or not, that's no deal. I mean,
I understand that you have to be allowed due process.
And it's weird that this comes out now. It's also
Stranger's two different women, but she got to read the room.
This is the Washington commanders and they had an absolute
abject disaster in the front office with all the nonsense
(29:55):
and sexual harassment that was going on previously. So because
of that, there's there's less than a zero tolerance policy
there completely understanding.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
That Justin Jefferson is now the highest paid non quarterback
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I think that's a big deal because I gotta tell you,
I wouldn't say that wide receiver is the second most
important position in the NFL, you know, m h. I
mean to me, defensive end would be, left tackle would be.
And I know that those guys are close in terms
(30:31):
of money, But like when Nick Bosa what he did
in the Super Bowl up until when they lost the
Super Bowl, right, I mean, like that dude wrecked a
complete game. So I think that's the second most important position.
I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
All right, big deal, A little deal or no deal
that Robert McIntire won the RBC Canadian Open yesterday with
his dad as his caddie.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
If you haven't seen that interview with What's.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Bolonas's Amanda bellionis Amanda.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
She was great, but the dad was awesome, Awesome. That
interview is an all timer. It's a huge deal. I
mean that's all the feels in the world, Like you're
struggling and you call your dad, just have your dad
on the bag and then you win. That's amazing. Yeah,
that's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Came over from Scotland as well, and McIntyre even said
that he's likely to not play the Memorial this week,
US Opens next week, but that he's likely to go
home and celebrate that victory have back of a party. Yes,
finally a big deal, A little deal of an old deal.
That the Stanley Cup Final between Edmonton and Florida is
the biggest difference of latitude in a matchup we've ever
(31:43):
seen in a.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Big four sport playoff series. Is it a big deal,
little deal or no deal?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I think it's a big deal because it's never happened before,
literally never happen before. Edmonton Alberta to Florida.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
People now know where Edmonton is on a map, and
that's game time.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Game This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
You know where I think it is unmapped, ironically enough,
but I'll tell you how I knew that a little
later on the show. Come on next to The Doug
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