March 27, 2025 • 35 mins
Doug reacts to MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred's comments about his league's split with ESPN at the end of this season. Doug welcomes new UNLV head basketball coach Josh Pastner onto the show to discuss the challenge of turning things around in Vegas and the landscape of college basketball. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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welcome in. Hey, I just I hadn't said anything yet,
but I appreciate it. I do, in fact appreciate it.
I want to get to some thing which I find
to be fascinating, and I want to point out that
we're supposed to as sports radio hosts have absolute answers.
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You know, they're the best ever. They stink they should
be fired. Should But I think that doesn't mean I
am radical interests politically, But that doesn't mean that I'm
a radical centrist in my sports takes. It just means
that I don't radical center doesn't mean I'm always very
much in the middle. It means I don't. I don't
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carry the obligation to always side with one side. Does
that make sense? And again my turn for it is
radical centrist. You know, best way, easiest way to to
express it is I have some views that you would say,
like if you just heard that one view. I believe
(01:52):
the death parally should absolutely be a form of punishment
that exist be like, wow, you are a right winger.
I believe very much in universal health care, and I
think the system, well not perfect, that we have is
way better than what we would have if it was
simply privatized. WHOA, you're a left winger. No, I have
my own opinions that are not that are not tied
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to any one political party. Now, I think my sports
opinions are more gray, right gray. I'm not doing the
Jordan Lebron. I believe that in my lifetime, Michael Jordan
is the greatest basketball player I've ever seen. I'm not
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even sold that Lebron James at his peak I would
want to have on my team above that of Larry
Birder Magic Johnson. On the other hand, I just saw
Lebron James hit a game winner at age forty years old,
thirteen points and thirteen rebounds, right or something like that,
Like he had an amazing kind of all around game
and his ability to be this amazing for this, I
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don't know if that's greatest. He's had the greatest career ever.
And you're like, wait, you're using semantics. No, I'm just
talking reality. His overall length and depth and quality of
his career is better than anyone we've ever seen. I
don't actually think there's an argument for it, right. So
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you're like, wait, are we gonna talk Lebron and Jordan It. No,
we're not. We're gonna talk major League Baseball Like what okay,
stick aways? Yes, so about I want to say, two
weeks ago, ESPN announced they're opting out of their contract
with Major League Baseball, opting out. And I'll get to
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why this is such an amazing case study in a moment,
But first let me start with this. Rob Manfred was
on with Chris Russo. That's Matt dog Guisu Okay, And
I've had mad Dogs back when he was first on ESPN.
We we're not friends, we don't have a relationship. Doesn't
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mean we're enemies. He just I don't know. I mean,
I don't know how much he knows I exist. I
only know that he is the He and Mike Francessa
are the godfathers of what we do. Mike and the
Dog and I used to come back to New York
with my dad, who's from New York every summer and
we would listen to Imus in the morning and Mike
and the Mad Dog in the afternoon. So I have
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a great respect for the fact that he he is
a he's a pathfinder, he is a trendsetter. He is
a trailblazer. Trail blazer in the world of sports radio anyway.
Chris Russo interviewed Rob Manfred and he said this in
regards to Major League Baseball ending its relationship with the
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ESPN after the season.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You surprised, we keeled over when he ESPN said that
we're going to opt out of the contract or just
see it coming WHOA.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I didn't hit to see it. I could read it.
I mean, you know, there were leaks going back a year.
You know, unfortunate that that was the mode of communication.
But you know it, so nobody from me.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
ESPN picked up the phone and said, Rob, this is
what we're thinking about, not bothers you.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, we I mean, eventually it got to the point
that they told us what they were thinking. But we
had been reading leaks for over a year. But that
phone call took place, and that that's unfortunate. It did
not help the conversations.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, it did not help the conversations. ESPN leaked it
out that hey, we might be and I think they
were testing the water to see what anyone's reaction would be.
Manfred had his own dissatisfaction with the ESPN's coverage.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
There was a level of dissatisfaction on our part. It started,
you know with the end of Baseball tonight. I think
if you watch ESPN and I do you know where
we appear on Sports Center in the morning. There were issues.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I can answer to that better than anybody. We only
did one segment today, an opening day Major League Baseball,
So if anybody can mention it, you're talking to me.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, And you know, look, there was a level of
dissatisfaction that. Having said that, you know, did we want
to be partners with him?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
But you know, taking less money not going to happen.
And look, I'll say this publicly because I said.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It to them.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You know, they stepped up for the NBA, they stepped
up for football, you know, stepped up for this one.
And to come back to us and say, you know
we want to cut you, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
So you felt hurt?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, you felt hurt. Well, I look, I thought it's
a you know, the fact that and and dog does
the leading questions in it, because what you're supposed to
say is how did that make you feel? I felt hurt, Dougie,
But instead you felt hurt kind of leads that leads
the witness. But whether or not we get into the
inn doing style of Matt dougaras or not doesn't really matter.
(07:03):
Here's what does matter. My brother was in the Mountain
West Conference. This is fifteen oh twenty years ago, and
the Mountain West moved away from ESPN and went to
I think it was Altitude at the time. They also
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moved their conference headquarters to Denver. And those two moves,
the Mountain West went to the Witness Protection Program, that's
what as they called it. And those words rang in
my head when I took a job at CBS Sports
because a lot of my games while covering the NCAA Tournament,
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working on Selection Sunday and the Final Four were on
CBS Sports Network, which was previously known as at least
when I was at ESPN, the Witness Protection Program, right,
nobody watched it, and ESPN they do it, they will
do this. Right. If you've noticed, there was no hockey
on Sports Center until ESPN got hockey back as part
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of the package, and suddenly hockey's on it. The WNBA,
the women's NCAA Tournament, they're all over ESPN. Why, Well, one,
there's a push for women's sports within Disney, and secondly,
they're a rights holder, and Rob Benford rightfully complained like, hey,
we're been a rights holder for years and Major League
Baseball never discussed. Now, ESPN would probably say, hey, why
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would we promote something that our numbers say people don't
care to watch the problem is that you're doing that
with the WNBA and with women's college basketball pre and
post Caitlin Clark. Right, So there's a lot to it.
There's a lot going on. Here's what's really interesting to me,
and you guys can Jay Stu You've been in this
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business as longer, longer than I have, So you can
tell me if this is not interesting to you, what
happens to Major League Baseball? Now? They're not on ESPN. Now,
it used to be, well, you're on Sports Center. Everything
was about Donna Nunt, Donna Nunt. People don't. People don't
watch Sports Center anymore, not with the same fervor like
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we used to watch when it was Keith Ellman and
Dan Patrick. That's what we grew up on. Even even
Steve Levy and John Anderson.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Don't forget some Kenny Maine and John Butcher Gross.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Kenny Maine, John Butchercross Heck, even the again, last fifteen
years they've been in LA. I'm not sure if you
if you saw this as an industry thing, but they
just shuddered ESPN Sports Center in LA. They're moving Sports
Center back to Bristol. So the point is that, again
I don't know the answer, but it used to be
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if you were on ESPN, you might as well not
be on sports television because outside of the big events,
everybody just watches ESPN. Now I know that a lot
of people in their MACHIESO I will watching us. We
got it anymore. I don't that's not true. That's just
not They got all the sports, but they don't have baseball.
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Like that is crushing to Major League Baseball, one would think.
So Again, I don't know the answer. Does this crush
Major League Baseball? Does no one care? Are there's no
opining four highlights? Because as we've stated previously, and I
know that people are slow to come around to it,
baseball has done a great job of reinvigorating the sport.
It's more athletic, it's more watchable, it's quicker, it's better
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than it's ever been. And some of the ratings reflected
some of them don't because we're still kind of stuck
in that baseball is boring, it's super old. It's the
past time keyword past second word time. And I think
it's going to be really interesting to see what happens
because it one will signify where baseball is in the
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landscape of sports. Is it really still among the Big
three and two? Is ESPN matter as much as it
used to? Right? NBC now has a ton of sports,
so does Peacock, Fox Sports and Fox Sports One have
a ton of sports. Okay, CBS and CBS Sports Network
they have a ton of sports. Amazon has sports, Netflix
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has had the NFL. ESPN is still the home of
sports ish. But if you don't have Sports Center, or
if people don't watch Sports Center with the same fervor,
when everybody gets their highlights off the phone and not
always off of VESPN, what happens to it? I don't know.
I'm just interested. I've been a sportsman my whole life.
I used to wake up every day and watch Sports Center.
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One of the greatest thrills of my life was being
on both the Am and the six o'clock, the eleven o'clock,
the one am sports Center, especially this time of year.
This was my time of year, and that was where
I grew up as a sportscaster, as a college basketball analyst.
It was great. And I don't know the answer, but
I'm an interested party. And Rob Benfred's right everybody else
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they're spending more money on wn NBA, NFL, college football,
college basketball, women's college basketball. They want to pay less
for Major League Baseball. That was them saying we're out
our numbers. Tell us this doesn't work. And hockey went
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away from ESPN and hockey died. Does the same thing
happen to baseball.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
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Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's The Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And
it's pretty cool to be joined by a good friend
of mine, a guy who we kind of discussed a
little bit earlier on the show. You know, just when
you're going through a tough season like we went through,
it's incredible to look down and see somebody saying, hey, man,
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I've been through it. I got your back. And the
new head coach at the UNB Running ReBs is Josh Pastor.
He joins us in The Doug Gotleib Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Josh, how are you, Doug?
Speaker 7 (13:07):
How are you doing you? You've been through this, as
you know, just a year ago, so you understand how
hectic everything is, chaotic and you're just moving at such
a fast pace. Obviously at the spot that you were at,
you got the job much later than than I did,
so you were really put at a disadvantage on that
for you personally, but you understand how fast and chaotic
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and just it's a whirlwind when you take over.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Okay, so the big question is you have wife, you
have kids. Right when you ask them, right, what was
what was the what's the conversation like in the pastor household?
How did you approach it?
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Well, there's two things. Number one, I got four kids,
and I got three daughters and a little son, and
my fourteen year old daughter and my twelve year old daughter.
When I told them, like my wife, we were so excited. Obviously,
my little son he does he's three, so he doesn't understand.
My nine year old daughter was so excited. But of
course my fourteen and twelve year old they get a
little upset. They're up there because they're leaving their friends.
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You know, it's you know, like that's all they've known
is Atlanta is Atlanta, Georgia and their entire you know
world is that's where they were been at. And so
as you know, dougets you see it on their face
and you feel bad. Well, we get here yesterday because
we flew in yesterday morning, see the press conference, do
the press conference. And by the time the end of
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the day, like they really changed, like they were they
started getting a little excited to that this is kind
of cool and and so that made me feel better
because you know, how do is dougling your kids and
they're young, they do not always understanding about moving. And
so as the day went on and even this morning,
they totally softened up and gotten from where they were
really sad like about moving to now really excited about
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what the opportunity to to move and see the place
here in in Las Vegas. And so that makes it
easier for me. The other thing is I love my family.
You'll understand this, Doug. I love my family so much,
but I you know, they're here with me, but they
need I needed to get them back on the plane
back to Atlanta because it was so hard to start
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working and trying to do everything when they're you know,
because they require a lot of tension. They're in a
brand new place in a quick twenty four to thirty
six hours and they were sitting at the hotel and they're, hey, Dad,
we're hungry. What are we doing? I'm like, and you
can't even answer their calls because you're trying to recruit
and deal with everything at that current time. So it
will actually get me some space right now that really
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focus on what needs to be done job wise and
lock in on all what needs to be locked in.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
As you know, Josh Pastor joining us, he's the head
coach of you and LV, the running ReBs, and you
obviously a part of that nineteen ninety seven Arizona national
championship team. Previous to that, Previous to that, UNLV and
UCLA had one national championships on the West Coast. What's
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the challenge like to get UNLV back. I don't know
if you'll get back to that level, but get back
to where you have national providence. What's that challenge like?
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Yeah? No, Look, I mean every jobs hard, there's no
every job is. There's challenges in every job. The great
thing about this job is you just mentioned Doug. It
hit a long, storied, tremendous history, not only nationally and globally,
but especially as you know, as well as anybody up
and down that West coast. I mean, when you think
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about UNLV and you have those four letters on your
shirt or you talk about UNLV, I mean it's a
global name. People know UNLV. Obviously, Las Vegas is becoming
the epicenter for not only the sports industry when you
think about it, but it's obviously for the entertainment industry
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again not in the United States of America but globally,
and so there's a lot here and we've got to
get back to you know, look, it's it's how do
you ignite and and re energize and and have the
excitement and the enthusiasm again, all those things have to
go hand in hand, and it starts with Look, you've
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got to recruit, you've got to get a staff together,
you've got to win games. But you've got to get
the community back, you've got to get the fan base back,
and you've got to roll up your sleeves and get
in the trenches to rally everybody. To do that, I
think the style of play is critical, as you know
this you just mentioned it is to run in rebels.
You know, they are used to on the offensive end,
playing very up tempo for the you know, and and
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on the defensive end, they want to see you get
up underneath the guys, change, you know, using your trying
to use your defense to move in things, opportunities on
the offensive end, all those type of things to play
with that pace, that speed, that tempo, that exciting brand
of basketball. And obviously the most important thing is you
got to win. I mean, we all know that that's
that's that's the deal. But look, Doug, we're in a
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great basketball league. You know that the Mountain West is
a great basketball league, just really good coaches, really good
players and so. But UNLV is in a position to
h to have an opportunity to to be you know,
re energized and compete from to get back to the
n c to A tournaments and compete and win championships.
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I mean, that's the goal. And you don't have to
do it where you know, things are different now where
you don't have to you don't have to wait five
or six years to do it. Things can be so
fast to quickly turn things again. Not easy, not easier
said than done, because there's a lot of challenges. But
that's the thing is you can move at much quicker
pace than ever before to try to bring it back
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that quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Okay, so let's talk about that because we have seen
some coaches two years fired, three years fired. And I know,
I think every job and every build is different unto itself.
What's a reasonable expect for you know, for you and Nolvy.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Well, look, I mean you're right, I think the climate
has changed now these days, Doug, I think you would
be the first to agree with it. I mean, it's
just a different world. We're in the fast paced of
college athletics are changing at every evolving speed. So I
don't think people are waiting anymore for five, six, seven
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years to turn things around. It's got to be quick.
So all I know is, you know, instead of putting
a timeframe on it, all I know is my mind,
I want to do this next year like as quick
as possible. Whether that happens, I mean, look, you got
to go get it done. You've got to get on
the floor, you've got to go get the great players.
There's no guarantee of anything, as you know. As well
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as that, I mean, you've got to go compete, and
the other team wants to win two. But I didn't
come here to try to have a long process and
it's going to be a you know, a five year
deal that you know, people aren't going to want to
hear that. It's got to be. They want to see
changes and they want to see changes quickly. And I
understand that, and I think you have to accept that.
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And it's sort of like, Doug, it's like the it's
it's like the climate of college basketball. If you're complaining
an upset about the rules and about the nil or
pay to play as I like to say, or the portal,
the transfer portal, or whatever else there that if you're
complaining about that, you're going to get left behind. Like
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you've got to be. You've got to accept it, deal
with it. You've got to be ready to adapt, change,
change in real time. I mean there's things moving in
college athletics that is moving so fast it's literally in
real time. So all those things go hand in hand.
I just think that's the new era and the new
wave of what we're of, what we're in. So, you know,
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to sum it up, I'm as excited as can be.
I love kind of the new model right now, I mean,
now being in for a first couple of days, I
actually love it. I mean, you think about it, Doug.
I remember all the times, and you know, I've recruited
a lot of guys. I can't say how many times
I would spend four five three years, three four five
years chasing guys, recruiting guys, spending more time on them
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than being with my own family, and then at the
end they choose somewhere else. The great thing about this
profession right now, you just streamline everything. Instead of a
three four year, three four year deal that you're so
exhausted trying to get a guy. Now it's a three
or four week deal at the most. Try to figure
it out. Yes, you've got to make decisions much quicker,
but talk about not wasting time and being way more efficient.
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I think this way is way better.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I do too. But then there's also the element of
do you know what you're getting right? Because you know
it's like you make you make the call, you make
the connection, you like the kid, you like what you
see on synergy, you like what you see on tape.
You're like, well is this wait? That was that? Was it?
What do I not know? Right? And whereas previously and
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I know that at at Memphis and at Georgia Tech
it wasn't you weren't transfer you but previously you know,
you want guys that took transfers. You want to know
oftentimes have recruited them out of high school and come
in second, and then you come in first when when
they transfer? What what? What do you think of your
challenges of really knowing out knowing what you're getting in
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the transfer portal.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well, Doug, I mean, you're you're exactly right that that
is probably the downside of it. You don't one hundred
percent know. I mean, obviously it's if Cooper Flag goes
into portal. I think we all know what you know,
who Cooper Flag is and you don't have there's not
a lot of mystery on that. But there's a lot
of guys out there that could be did in the
portal and you're not sure. So, Doug, evaluating is so important,
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more so than ever and you and a lot of
the evaluation now has to be done via film because
a lot of the guys on the portal, you're gonna
you know, you're going to have to watch them on
the film and really study their game via film. So
you've got to be really good with your eyes. I
think that's a big deal, is being good with your eyes.
And uh so, I think that's part of it. Yes,
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there's I think another area that's not easy is and Doug,
you're dealing with it like, hey, you see a good player,
Like what's the money value? And what's the value? I mean,
if the is he is it seventy five thousand? Is
it one hundred thousand? Is it three hundred thousand? You
know that's you. You're that's not easy, you know what
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I'm saying. What's the market out there? So trying to
I think those are the two things that make it
tough in the in the quick turnaround of it. I
think those are probably the negative of it, negative of
it whereas whereas but but on the other side, there
is not a lot of wasting time. And I think
you would agree with that, and you've been around it,
you know how it was before you're I mean, Doug,
you would spend three four years trying to get a
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guy to come to your school and and you wouldn't
know where you stood have because you know, you're dealing
with so many others. And if you get in the
top five, then they take five official visits and then
they make an announcement. You get what I'm saying. I
mean it literally when and when you lose a kid
like that, you are crushed because you were like man
all the time and there it was crushing. Now you're
just literally dealing it in within weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
What what about the challenge to being in Vegas? You know,
I do know that it doesn't matter now in regards
to sports gambling and monitoring that, managing that, because everybody's
got that issue when you're a college head coach. But
it still is Vegas. It's the entertainment capital of the US.
There's always something to do, always something to get into.
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And you know, it is like there's gonna there's gonna
be a kid that that comes to Vegas and uh
has other maybe other off the court intentions. If you will,
how do you how do you how do you forecast
and for shadow of that?
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Well, I think the first thing you said I think
when regarding to gambling is you I think, yes, obviously
people know Las Vegas with the casinos, but you just
said it best. I mean, you don't you don't you
can gamble on your phone now, I mean, and so, uh,
it's it's so globally, you know, almost done all over
the world now via the cell phone at any point.
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And what I would tell you is, I think it's
really important you got and this is whether this is
at UNLV or any school in America, educating about about
the possible dangers of gambling. Obviously, forget about just what's
not allowable by the law of anything with regards on
your team, but just in general, being being educated on
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on the on the dangers of it, of what it
could lead to possibly and I'm not talking about anything
against federal level, but what it could lead to, how
it could be self destruction and if you end up
being a gambling problem, all those type of things, and
that's for another time and play. So I think education
is really important on that. And I think, look, I
would also tell you that education on just you know,
doing I don't care if I when I was in
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Memshis or Atlanta or here, we're talking to our guys like,
there's just certain times of the day at night, you
don't there are certain places you don't know what to
be at. You're asking for trouble. So you know, I
don't care where that is, whether that's in Las Vegas
or or in Vermont. You know, there's just issues. You
can get yourself in trouble if you're not if you're
not being smart. On the other hand, I don't know
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if there's a better place in the world to want
to play basketball and being able to be seen by
the NBA people by having to be able to be
seen by the connections that you can meet and the
opportunities that could come from it being in the West
coast here in with the weather, how many I mean literally,
whether it's practices or games. The amount of NBA i's
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coming through your gym of practices and games literally on
an everyday basis, there's probably no other place like that
in any college team. And then you know, how many
times do you see for even in portal guys you know,
you might get them for a year or two. I mean,
this is a great place to be at and because
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you know, sometimes maybe in back I think back in
the old days, they might say about four or five
years there, and man, you might only have a guy
for a year or two. So I think it's all positive.
I think there's great things about this city is awesome
and has grown and expanded, and there's a lot of
people moving in here to live here full time. It's
different than what it was in the you know, you
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know maybe twenty years ago. This city is is gorgeous,
is growing, is blowing up. I mean, it's the epicenter
of sports and the entertainment world is right here in
Las Vegas, and you can be part of that when
you're playing for the UNLV Running Rebels.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Last thing, how have you changed your voicemail message yet?
Because you like, for people who don't know, Josh is
famous for his voicemail message right, always in positivity, but
always you reached Josh pastor ahead basketball coach at University
of Memphis or at Georgia Tech. Have you changed the
voicemail yet?
Speaker 7 (28:00):
The voicemail I changed my voicemail pretty much every month
of a real positive message, and so I have a
new message on there. I actually just did it the
other day. So it's people call me all over the world,
and they will and they before they call me, a
lot of times they'll say coach or just I don't answer,
I need to pick me up. I need to hear
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a positive message because they just want to hear my
voicemail message. I've got the same cell number for my
whole entire life. And so it's it's it's a way
of that I really truly believe in that in that
way to live, and I've lived that way, and it's
it's it's how I understand how preciousness of what I
believe in life and positive and positivity, and that's just
(28:42):
kind of who I am and what I'm about. And
so I try to give it, give it all my
voicemail to allow people to maybe get a pick me
up here or there. And that's if that helps some people,
that's that's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Josh awesome. I'm super happy for you and for your family.
Get back in the portal, get yourself some players, and
we'll talk soon.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
Okay, thank you, Doug. Appreciate.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
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At this time, we turned over this case ties at
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Speaker 6 (29:19):
This is game Time game s on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Hey there, Isaac Longkron, what is the game today.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Doug, let's set the tone.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I feel a draft today. We'll be drafting the player
you've enjoyed watching the most in this tournament so far.
It's going to be a Snake format, ironically named after
the late, great, legendary Raiders quarterback Kenny Staylor. Bet you
folks out there didn't know that anyway, Doug has the
number one overall pick, because, let's face it, he would
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have traded up to it, followed by Jason Iowa Sam
myself twice, and then back around with the first pick.
The player you've enjoyed watching most in this tournament so far.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Doug hmm, wow, Wow the player I've enjoyed What the
player I've a joy to latching the most in this
NC double a turtle bit. I'm not gonna out thinking.
I'm gonna just say Walter Walter Clayton, Walter Clayton Junior.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Good, good pick.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah. I really enjoyed Washington play thirty six against you
excuse me, twenty three against Yukon, thirty six minutes, twenty
three against Norfolk State. And this is coming off of
you know, an SEC tournament which he dropped twenty two
and against Bama and Tennessee back to back games. He's
been consistent, hard shot maker. I like Watson watching Walter
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Walt sick Clayton didn't shooting well.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Doug, Walter Clayton Junior. Is that a Is that a
George Clooney movie from the early two thousands? Clayton, No,
I know I'm making a joke here, Isaac. Was that
a famous anchor?
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Well?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Could you did my than did my impression make you
did my impression? Yeah, you think of it.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I thought of Walter Cronkite, and I thought of Michael Clayton.
The movie made me think of Walter Payton.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Who was Who was I trying to imitate you?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
You're trying to mister Monday Night Football?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Were you Howard Cosell?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Only you got to say? This is how what coach sell?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Speaking of sports and anything else that comes to mind,
this segment is descending into radio anarchy. Jason Stewart, I
completely forgot what the subject is?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
A favorite?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Who set it out?
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Mine is Mathow Walter Matthow, good pick the fellow Original
Children Bothering Videos couple. Since Doug just gave me this pick,
I'm just going to say Cooper Flag. We've been waiting
five plus years for this moment, and he's lived up
to the hype. I don't know how hard he is,
(32:04):
but he doesn't don't hurt, don't.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Don't believe, don't don't don't Sorry.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
He was seventeen when the season started. That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
He reclassed its crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
As if we needed to know this one, Iowa Sam
number three pick all.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Right, with the third overall pick, I am going to
draft Vladislav Golden Senior center Russian Vlatoslov Golden out of
Michigan played Texas Tech, then went to Florida Atlantic and
then to Michigan Senior center Russian Vladislav Golden. He had
a let's see, yeah, double figures in each game twenty
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three versus Texas A and m Vladeslav.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
So I've got the next yeah two And this is
a what I would consider a retroactive and a bittersweet pick.
I'm gonna go juju watins from.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Usc Ay bit to sweet one, a bitter.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Sweet moment there with the Galen Center and then with
my last pick. Remember this name. It's Iowa State sixty
three center. Just completed her sophomore season. Her name is
Audi Crooks. Remember that name. This season overall what sixty
one percent from the field, twenty three points a game
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in a tournament loss to Michigan, thirteen out of eighteen
from the field. Again, just completed her sophomore campaign. I'm
just gonna say to people out there, remember that name,
Audi Crooks. Fantastic moves in the post. And with that
we go back to Iowa.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
Sam.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I didn't know we could delve into the women's tournament.
But yeah, Audie Crook's there, great big Audie Crooks. She's
she's a powerhouse there at Iowa State. She's she's kind
of developing a little Kaylyn Clark Clout kind of in
their names. Umm, I'm going to go with a steady
as she goes, steady as he goes. Trey Holloman, Michigan State.
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He had fourteen against New Mexico, fourteen against Bryant. I
just had to pick a guy off Michigan State because
I have him going deep.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
And with the next pick, we hala at Jason because
I've been watching.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
So much Cooper Flag that I took in the first round.
I've been appreciating the steady game of Tyres Procter, a
third year guard for Duke. He's the kind of guy
that keeps everything going on that team. Doug could probably
give me his analysis of Tyreese. I just found out
he was born in Sydney. Tyres Proctor Duke guard Proctor.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Where is Proctor?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Final pick? Right there, Douglas M. Gauntleeb tyresee Proctor.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Tyre's Proctor's really improved. I mean that's the guy. You
got to be super happy for considering. He also reclassed
when he went to Duke and had had a big
time year. You know, I'm just like watching Mark sears Man.
One last year of watching sears he went to Ohio,
you I think his first two years and then since
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coming back home. He's from muscle shows Alabama. Right, muscle
shows Alabama. I'll know everything there is to know about
shrimp and business. Anyway, love watching Mark series.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Play good draft everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Yeah, it's actually a muscle shoes beach not far from here,
Muscle shoals Beach.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
There's not muscle shoals beaches. Muscle beach isn't there.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Well, there's muscle beach that's Venice, right, But there's a
muscle shoals beach that's south of Santa Barbara. Just a
little fact.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
We I had no idea. Weird, wacky and wild stuff.
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welcome in. Hey, I just I hadn't said anything yet,
but I appreciate it. I do, in fact appreciate it.
I want to get to some thing which I find
to be fascinating, and I want to point out that
we're supposed to as sports radio hosts have absolute answers.
(01:09):
You know, they're the best ever. They stink they should
be fired. Should But I think that doesn't mean I
am radical interests politically, But that doesn't mean that I'm
a radical centrist in my sports takes. It just means
that I don't radical center doesn't mean I'm always very
much in the middle. It means I don't. I don't
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carry the obligation to always side with one side. Does
that make sense? And again my turn for it is
radical centrist. You know, best way, easiest way to to
express it is I have some views that you would say,
like if you just heard that one view. I believe
(01:52):
the death parally should absolutely be a form of punishment
that exist be like, wow, you are a right winger.
I believe very much in universal health care, and I
think the system, well not perfect, that we have is
way better than what we would have if it was
simply privatized. WHOA, you're a left winger. No, I have
my own opinions that are not that are not tied
(02:15):
to any one political party. Now, I think my sports
opinions are more gray, right gray. I'm not doing the
Jordan Lebron. I believe that in my lifetime, Michael Jordan
is the greatest basketball player I've ever seen. I'm not
(02:37):
even sold that Lebron James at his peak I would
want to have on my team above that of Larry
Birder Magic Johnson. On the other hand, I just saw
Lebron James hit a game winner at age forty years old,
thirteen points and thirteen rebounds, right or something like that,
Like he had an amazing kind of all around game
and his ability to be this amazing for this, I
(03:01):
don't know if that's greatest. He's had the greatest career ever.
And you're like, wait, you're using semantics. No, I'm just
talking reality. His overall length and depth and quality of
his career is better than anyone we've ever seen. I
don't actually think there's an argument for it, right. So
(03:24):
you're like, wait, are we gonna talk Lebron and Jordan It. No,
we're not. We're gonna talk major League Baseball Like what okay,
stick aways? Yes, so about I want to say, two
weeks ago, ESPN announced they're opting out of their contract
with Major League Baseball, opting out. And I'll get to
(03:46):
why this is such an amazing case study in a moment,
But first let me start with this. Rob Manfred was
on with Chris Russo. That's Matt dog Guisu Okay, And
I've had mad Dogs back when he was first on ESPN.
We we're not friends, we don't have a relationship. Doesn't
(04:07):
mean we're enemies. He just I don't know. I mean,
I don't know how much he knows I exist. I
only know that he is the He and Mike Francessa
are the godfathers of what we do. Mike and the
Dog and I used to come back to New York
with my dad, who's from New York every summer and
we would listen to Imus in the morning and Mike
and the Mad Dog in the afternoon. So I have
(04:28):
a great respect for the fact that he he is
a he's a pathfinder, he is a trendsetter. He is
a trailblazer. Trail blazer in the world of sports radio anyway.
Chris Russo interviewed Rob Manfred and he said this in
regards to Major League Baseball ending its relationship with the
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ESPN after the season.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You surprised, we keeled over when he ESPN said that
we're going to opt out of the contract or just
see it coming WHOA.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I didn't hit to see it. I could read it.
I mean, you know, there were leaks going back a year.
You know, unfortunate that that was the mode of communication.
But you know it, so nobody from me.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
ESPN picked up the phone and said, Rob, this is
what we're thinking about, not bothers you.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, we I mean, eventually it got to the point
that they told us what they were thinking. But we
had been reading leaks for over a year. But that
phone call took place, and that that's unfortunate. It did
not help the conversations.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, it did not help the conversations. ESPN leaked it
out that hey, we might be and I think they
were testing the water to see what anyone's reaction would be.
Manfred had his own dissatisfaction with the ESPN's coverage.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
There was a level of dissatisfaction on our part. It started,
you know with the end of Baseball tonight. I think
if you watch ESPN and I do you know where
we appear on Sports Center in the morning. There were issues.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I can answer to that better than anybody. We only
did one segment today, an opening day Major League Baseball,
So if anybody can mention it, you're talking to me.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, And you know, look, there was a level of
dissatisfaction that. Having said that, you know, did we want
to be partners with him?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
But you know, taking less money not going to happen.
And look, I'll say this publicly because I said.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It to them.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You know, they stepped up for the NBA, they stepped
up for football, you know, stepped up for this one.
And to come back to us and say, you know
we want to cut you, that's a good point.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
So you felt hurt?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, you felt hurt. Well, I look, I thought it's
a you know, the fact that and and dog does
the leading questions in it, because what you're supposed to
say is how did that make you feel? I felt hurt, Dougie,
But instead you felt hurt kind of leads that leads
the witness. But whether or not we get into the
inn doing style of Matt dougaras or not doesn't really matter.
(07:03):
Here's what does matter. My brother was in the Mountain
West Conference. This is fifteen oh twenty years ago, and
the Mountain West moved away from ESPN and went to
I think it was Altitude at the time. They also
(07:23):
moved their conference headquarters to Denver. And those two moves,
the Mountain West went to the Witness Protection Program, that's
what as they called it. And those words rang in
my head when I took a job at CBS Sports
because a lot of my games while covering the NCAA Tournament,
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working on Selection Sunday and the Final Four were on
CBS Sports Network, which was previously known as at least
when I was at ESPN, the Witness Protection Program, right,
nobody watched it, and ESPN they do it, they will
do this. Right. If you've noticed, there was no hockey
on Sports Center until ESPN got hockey back as part
(08:06):
of the package, and suddenly hockey's on it. The WNBA,
the women's NCAA Tournament, they're all over ESPN. Why, Well, one,
there's a push for women's sports within Disney, and secondly,
they're a rights holder, and Rob Benford rightfully complained like, hey,
we're been a rights holder for years and Major League
Baseball never discussed. Now, ESPN would probably say, hey, why
(08:29):
would we promote something that our numbers say people don't
care to watch the problem is that you're doing that
with the WNBA and with women's college basketball pre and
post Caitlin Clark. Right, So there's a lot to it.
There's a lot going on. Here's what's really interesting to me,
and you guys can Jay Stu You've been in this
(08:51):
business as longer, longer than I have, So you can
tell me if this is not interesting to you, what
happens to Major League Baseball? Now? They're not on ESPN. Now,
it used to be, well, you're on Sports Center. Everything
was about Donna Nunt, Donna Nunt. People don't. People don't
watch Sports Center anymore, not with the same fervor like
(09:13):
we used to watch when it was Keith Ellman and
Dan Patrick. That's what we grew up on. Even even
Steve Levy and John Anderson.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Don't forget some Kenny Maine and John Butcher Gross.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Kenny Maine, John Butchercross Heck, even the again, last fifteen
years they've been in LA. I'm not sure if you
if you saw this as an industry thing, but they
just shuddered ESPN Sports Center in LA. They're moving Sports
Center back to Bristol. So the point is that, again
I don't know the answer, but it used to be
(09:48):
if you were on ESPN, you might as well not
be on sports television because outside of the big events,
everybody just watches ESPN. Now I know that a lot
of people in their MACHIESO I will watching us. We
got it anymore. I don't that's not true. That's just
not They got all the sports, but they don't have baseball.
(10:09):
Like that is crushing to Major League Baseball, one would think.
So Again, I don't know the answer. Does this crush
Major League Baseball? Does no one care? Are there's no
opining four highlights? Because as we've stated previously, and I
know that people are slow to come around to it,
baseball has done a great job of reinvigorating the sport.
It's more athletic, it's more watchable, it's quicker, it's better
(10:31):
than it's ever been. And some of the ratings reflected
some of them don't because we're still kind of stuck
in that baseball is boring, it's super old. It's the
past time keyword past second word time. And I think
it's going to be really interesting to see what happens
because it one will signify where baseball is in the
(10:55):
landscape of sports. Is it really still among the Big
three and two? Is ESPN matter as much as it
used to? Right? NBC now has a ton of sports,
so does Peacock, Fox Sports and Fox Sports One have
a ton of sports. Okay, CBS and CBS Sports Network
they have a ton of sports. Amazon has sports, Netflix
(11:15):
has had the NFL. ESPN is still the home of
sports ish. But if you don't have Sports Center, or
if people don't watch Sports Center with the same fervor,
when everybody gets their highlights off the phone and not
always off of VESPN, what happens to it? I don't know.
I'm just interested. I've been a sportsman my whole life.
I used to wake up every day and watch Sports Center.
(11:36):
One of the greatest thrills of my life was being
on both the Am and the six o'clock, the eleven o'clock,
the one am sports Center, especially this time of year.
This was my time of year, and that was where
I grew up as a sportscaster, as a college basketball analyst.
It was great. And I don't know the answer, but
I'm an interested party. And Rob Benfred's right everybody else
(11:57):
they're spending more money on wn NBA, NFL, college football,
college basketball, women's college basketball. They want to pay less
for Major League Baseball. That was them saying we're out
our numbers. Tell us this doesn't work. And hockey went
(12:19):
away from ESPN and hockey died. Does the same thing
happen to baseball.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
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Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's The Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. And
it's pretty cool to be joined by a good friend
of mine, a guy who we kind of discussed a
little bit earlier on the show. You know, just when
you're going through a tough season like we went through,
it's incredible to look down and see somebody saying, hey, man,
(12:57):
I've been through it. I got your back. And the
new head coach at the UNB Running ReBs is Josh Pastor.
He joins us in The Doug Gotleib Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Josh, how are you, Doug?
Speaker 7 (13:07):
How are you doing you? You've been through this, as
you know, just a year ago, so you understand how
hectic everything is, chaotic and you're just moving at such
a fast pace. Obviously at the spot that you were at,
you got the job much later than than I did,
so you were really put at a disadvantage on that
for you personally, but you understand how fast and chaotic
(13:29):
and just it's a whirlwind when you take over.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Okay, so the big question is you have wife, you
have kids. Right when you ask them, right, what was
what was the what's the conversation like in the pastor household?
How did you approach it?
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Well, there's two things. Number one, I got four kids,
and I got three daughters and a little son, and
my fourteen year old daughter and my twelve year old daughter.
When I told them, like my wife, we were so excited. Obviously,
my little son he does he's three, so he doesn't understand.
My nine year old daughter was so excited. But of
course my fourteen and twelve year old they get a
little upset. They're up there because they're leaving their friends.
(14:10):
You know, it's you know, like that's all they've known
is Atlanta is Atlanta, Georgia and their entire you know
world is that's where they were been at. And so
as you know, dougets you see it on their face
and you feel bad. Well, we get here yesterday because
we flew in yesterday morning, see the press conference, do
the press conference. And by the time the end of
(14:31):
the day, like they really changed, like they were they
started getting a little excited to that this is kind
of cool and and so that made me feel better
because you know, how do is dougling your kids and
they're young, they do not always understanding about moving. And
so as the day went on and even this morning,
they totally softened up and gotten from where they were
really sad like about moving to now really excited about
(14:54):
what the opportunity to to move and see the place
here in in Las Vegas. And so that makes it
easier for me. The other thing is I love my family.
You'll understand this, Doug. I love my family so much,
but I you know, they're here with me, but they
need I needed to get them back on the plane
back to Atlanta because it was so hard to start
(15:16):
working and trying to do everything when they're you know,
because they require a lot of tension. They're in a
brand new place in a quick twenty four to thirty
six hours and they were sitting at the hotel and they're, hey, Dad,
we're hungry. What are we doing? I'm like, and you
can't even answer their calls because you're trying to recruit
and deal with everything at that current time. So it
will actually get me some space right now that really
(15:37):
focus on what needs to be done job wise and
lock in on all what needs to be locked in.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
As you know, Josh Pastor joining us, he's the head
coach of you and LV, the running ReBs, and you
obviously a part of that nineteen ninety seven Arizona national
championship team. Previous to that, Previous to that, UNLV and
UCLA had one national championships on the West Coast. What's
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the challenge like to get UNLV back. I don't know
if you'll get back to that level, but get back
to where you have national providence. What's that challenge like?
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Yeah? No, Look, I mean every jobs hard, there's no
every job is. There's challenges in every job. The great
thing about this job is you just mentioned Doug. It
hit a long, storied, tremendous history, not only nationally and globally,
but especially as you know, as well as anybody up
and down that West coast. I mean, when you think
(16:36):
about UNLV and you have those four letters on your
shirt or you talk about UNLV, I mean it's a
global name. People know UNLV. Obviously, Las Vegas is becoming
the epicenter for not only the sports industry when you
think about it, but it's obviously for the entertainment industry
(16:59):
again not in the United States of America but globally,
and so there's a lot here and we've got to
get back to you know, look, it's it's how do
you ignite and and re energize and and have the
excitement and the enthusiasm again, all those things have to
go hand in hand, and it starts with Look, you've
(17:19):
got to recruit, you've got to get a staff together,
you've got to win games. But you've got to get
the community back, you've got to get the fan base back,
and you've got to roll up your sleeves and get
in the trenches to rally everybody. To do that, I
think the style of play is critical, as you know
this you just mentioned it is to run in rebels.
You know, they are used to on the offensive end,
playing very up tempo for the you know, and and
(17:41):
on the defensive end, they want to see you get
up underneath the guys, change, you know, using your trying
to use your defense to move in things, opportunities on
the offensive end, all those type of things to play
with that pace, that speed, that tempo, that exciting brand
of basketball. And obviously the most important thing is you
got to win. I mean, we all know that that's
that's that's the deal. But look, Doug, we're in a
(18:04):
great basketball league. You know that the Mountain West is
a great basketball league, just really good coaches, really good
players and so. But UNLV is in a position to
h to have an opportunity to to be you know,
re energized and compete from to get back to the
n c to A tournaments and compete and win championships.
(18:24):
I mean, that's the goal. And you don't have to
do it where you know, things are different now where
you don't have to you don't have to wait five
or six years to do it. Things can be so
fast to quickly turn things again. Not easy, not easier
said than done, because there's a lot of challenges. But
that's the thing is you can move at much quicker
pace than ever before to try to bring it back
(18:45):
that quickly.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Okay, so let's talk about that because we have seen
some coaches two years fired, three years fired. And I know,
I think every job and every build is different unto itself.
What's a reasonable expect for you know, for you and Nolvy.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Well, look, I mean you're right, I think the climate
has changed now these days, Doug, I think you would
be the first to agree with it. I mean, it's
just a different world. We're in the fast paced of
college athletics are changing at every evolving speed. So I
don't think people are waiting anymore for five, six, seven
(19:25):
years to turn things around. It's got to be quick.
So all I know is, you know, instead of putting
a timeframe on it, all I know is my mind,
I want to do this next year like as quick
as possible. Whether that happens, I mean, look, you got
to go get it done. You've got to get on
the floor, you've got to go get the great players.
There's no guarantee of anything, as you know. As well
(19:46):
as that, I mean, you've got to go compete, and
the other team wants to win two. But I didn't
come here to try to have a long process and
it's going to be a you know, a five year
deal that you know, people aren't going to want to
hear that. It's got to be. They want to see
changes and they want to see changes quickly. And I
understand that, and I think you have to accept that.
(20:09):
And it's sort of like, Doug, it's like the it's
it's like the climate of college basketball. If you're complaining
an upset about the rules and about the nil or
pay to play as I like to say, or the portal,
the transfer portal, or whatever else there that if you're
complaining about that, you're going to get left behind. Like
(20:31):
you've got to be. You've got to accept it, deal
with it. You've got to be ready to adapt, change,
change in real time. I mean there's things moving in
college athletics that is moving so fast it's literally in
real time. So all those things go hand in hand.
I just think that's the new era and the new
wave of what we're of, what we're in. So, you know,
(20:53):
to sum it up, I'm as excited as can be.
I love kind of the new model right now, I mean,
now being in for a first couple of days, I
actually love it. I mean, you think about it, Doug.
I remember all the times, and you know, I've recruited
a lot of guys. I can't say how many times
I would spend four five three years, three four five
years chasing guys, recruiting guys, spending more time on them
(21:16):
than being with my own family, and then at the
end they choose somewhere else. The great thing about this
profession right now, you just streamline everything. Instead of a
three four year, three four year deal that you're so
exhausted trying to get a guy. Now it's a three
or four week deal at the most. Try to figure
it out. Yes, you've got to make decisions much quicker,
but talk about not wasting time and being way more efficient.
(21:39):
I think this way is way better.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I do too. But then there's also the element of
do you know what you're getting right? Because you know
it's like you make you make the call, you make
the connection, you like the kid, you like what you
see on synergy, you like what you see on tape.
You're like, well is this wait? That was that? Was it?
What do I not know? Right? And whereas previously and
(22:02):
I know that at at Memphis and at Georgia Tech
it wasn't you weren't transfer you but previously you know,
you want guys that took transfers. You want to know
oftentimes have recruited them out of high school and come
in second, and then you come in first when when
they transfer? What what? What do you think of your
challenges of really knowing out knowing what you're getting in
(22:24):
the transfer portal.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well, Doug, I mean, you're you're exactly right that that
is probably the downside of it. You don't one hundred
percent know. I mean, obviously it's if Cooper Flag goes
into portal. I think we all know what you know,
who Cooper Flag is and you don't have there's not
a lot of mystery on that. But there's a lot
of guys out there that could be did in the
portal and you're not sure. So, Doug, evaluating is so important,
(22:48):
more so than ever and you and a lot of
the evaluation now has to be done via film because
a lot of the guys on the portal, you're gonna
you know, you're going to have to watch them on
the film and really study their game via film. So
you've got to be really good with your eyes. I
think that's a big deal, is being good with your eyes.
And uh so, I think that's part of it. Yes,
(23:10):
there's I think another area that's not easy is and Doug,
you're dealing with it like, hey, you see a good player,
Like what's the money value? And what's the value? I mean,
if the is he is it seventy five thousand? Is
it one hundred thousand? Is it three hundred thousand? You
know that's you. You're that's not easy, you know what
(23:32):
I'm saying. What's the market out there? So trying to
I think those are the two things that make it
tough in the in the quick turnaround of it. I
think those are probably the negative of it, negative of
it whereas whereas but but on the other side, there
is not a lot of wasting time. And I think
you would agree with that, and you've been around it,
you know how it was before you're I mean, Doug,
you would spend three four years trying to get a
(23:55):
guy to come to your school and and you wouldn't
know where you stood have because you know, you're dealing
with so many others. And if you get in the
top five, then they take five official visits and then
they make an announcement. You get what I'm saying. I
mean it literally when and when you lose a kid
like that, you are crushed because you were like man
all the time and there it was crushing. Now you're
just literally dealing it in within weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
What what about the challenge to being in Vegas? You know,
I do know that it doesn't matter now in regards
to sports gambling and monitoring that, managing that, because everybody's
got that issue when you're a college head coach. But
it still is Vegas. It's the entertainment capital of the US.
There's always something to do, always something to get into.
(24:39):
And you know, it is like there's gonna there's gonna
be a kid that that comes to Vegas and uh
has other maybe other off the court intentions. If you will,
how do you how do you how do you forecast
and for shadow of that?
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Well, I think the first thing you said I think
when regarding to gambling is you I think, yes, obviously
people know Las Vegas with the casinos, but you just
said it best. I mean, you don't you don't you
can gamble on your phone now, I mean, and so, uh,
it's it's so globally, you know, almost done all over
the world now via the cell phone at any point.
(25:18):
And what I would tell you is, I think it's
really important you got and this is whether this is
at UNLV or any school in America, educating about about
the possible dangers of gambling. Obviously, forget about just what's
not allowable by the law of anything with regards on
your team, but just in general, being being educated on
(25:39):
on the on the dangers of it, of what it
could lead to possibly and I'm not talking about anything
against federal level, but what it could lead to, how
it could be self destruction and if you end up
being a gambling problem, all those type of things, and
that's for another time and play. So I think education
is really important on that. And I think, look, I
would also tell you that education on just you know,
doing I don't care if I when I was in
(26:00):
Memshis or Atlanta or here, we're talking to our guys like,
there's just certain times of the day at night, you
don't there are certain places you don't know what to
be at. You're asking for trouble. So you know, I
don't care where that is, whether that's in Las Vegas
or or in Vermont. You know, there's just issues. You
can get yourself in trouble if you're not if you're
not being smart. On the other hand, I don't know
(26:21):
if there's a better place in the world to want
to play basketball and being able to be seen by
the NBA people by having to be able to be
seen by the connections that you can meet and the
opportunities that could come from it being in the West
coast here in with the weather, how many I mean literally,
whether it's practices or games. The amount of NBA i's
(26:45):
coming through your gym of practices and games literally on
an everyday basis, there's probably no other place like that
in any college team. And then you know, how many
times do you see for even in portal guys you know,
you might get them for a year or two. I mean,
this is a great place to be at and because
(27:06):
you know, sometimes maybe in back I think back in
the old days, they might say about four or five
years there, and man, you might only have a guy
for a year or two. So I think it's all positive.
I think there's great things about this city is awesome
and has grown and expanded, and there's a lot of
people moving in here to live here full time. It's
different than what it was in the you know, you
(27:28):
know maybe twenty years ago. This city is is gorgeous,
is growing, is blowing up. I mean, it's the epicenter
of sports and the entertainment world is right here in
Las Vegas, and you can be part of that when
you're playing for the UNLV Running Rebels.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Last thing, how have you changed your voicemail message yet?
Because you like, for people who don't know, Josh is
famous for his voicemail message right, always in positivity, but
always you reached Josh pastor ahead basketball coach at University
of Memphis or at Georgia Tech. Have you changed the
voicemail yet?
Speaker 7 (28:00):
The voicemail I changed my voicemail pretty much every month
of a real positive message, and so I have a
new message on there. I actually just did it the
other day. So it's people call me all over the world,
and they will and they before they call me, a
lot of times they'll say coach or just I don't answer,
I need to pick me up. I need to hear
(28:21):
a positive message because they just want to hear my
voicemail message. I've got the same cell number for my
whole entire life. And so it's it's it's a way
of that I really truly believe in that in that
way to live, and I've lived that way, and it's
it's it's how I understand how preciousness of what I
believe in life and positive and positivity, and that's just
(28:42):
kind of who I am and what I'm about. And
so I try to give it, give it all my
voicemail to allow people to maybe get a pick me
up here or there. And that's if that helps some people,
that's that's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Josh awesome. I'm super happy for you and for your family.
Get back in the portal, get yourself some players, and
we'll talk soon.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
Okay, thank you, Doug. Appreciate.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
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Speaker 6 (29:19):
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Speaker 1 (29:25):
Hey there, Isaac Longkron, what is the game today.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Doug, let's set the tone.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I feel a draft today. We'll be drafting the player
you've enjoyed watching the most in this tournament so far.
It's going to be a Snake format, ironically named after
the late, great, legendary Raiders quarterback Kenny Staylor. Bet you
folks out there didn't know that anyway, Doug has the
number one overall pick, because, let's face it, he would
(29:55):
have traded up to it, followed by Jason Iowa Sam
myself twice, and then back around with the first pick.
The player you've enjoyed watching most in this tournament so far.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Doug hmm, wow, Wow the player I've enjoyed What the
player I've a joy to latching the most in this
NC double a turtle bit. I'm not gonna out thinking.
I'm gonna just say Walter Walter Clayton, Walter Clayton Junior.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Good, good pick.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah. I really enjoyed Washington play thirty six against you
excuse me, twenty three against Yukon, thirty six minutes, twenty
three against Norfolk State. And this is coming off of
you know, an SEC tournament which he dropped twenty two
and against Bama and Tennessee back to back games. He's
been consistent, hard shot maker. I like Watson watching Walter
(30:52):
Walt sick Clayton didn't shooting well.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Doug, Walter Clayton Junior. Is that a Is that a
George Clooney movie from the early two thousands? Clayton, No,
I know I'm making a joke here, Isaac. Was that
a famous anchor?
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Well?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Could you did my than did my impression make you
did my impression? Yeah, you think of it.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I thought of Walter Cronkite, and I thought of Michael Clayton.
The movie made me think of Walter Payton.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Who was Who was I trying to imitate you?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
You're trying to mister Monday Night Football?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Were you Howard Cosell?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Only you got to say? This is how what coach sell?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Speaking of sports and anything else that comes to mind,
this segment is descending into radio anarchy. Jason Stewart, I
completely forgot what the subject is?
Speaker 8 (31:40):
A favorite?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Who set it out?
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Mine is Mathow Walter Matthow, good pick the fellow Original
Children Bothering Videos couple. Since Doug just gave me this pick,
I'm just going to say Cooper Flag. We've been waiting
five plus years for this moment, and he's lived up
to the hype. I don't know how hard he is,
(32:04):
but he doesn't don't hurt, don't.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Don't believe, don't don't don't Sorry.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
He was seventeen when the season started. That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
He reclassed its crazy.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
As if we needed to know this one, Iowa Sam
number three pick all.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Right, with the third overall pick, I am going to
draft Vladislav Golden Senior center Russian Vlatoslov Golden out of
Michigan played Texas Tech, then went to Florida Atlantic and
then to Michigan Senior center Russian Vladislav Golden. He had
a let's see, yeah, double figures in each game twenty
(32:39):
three versus Texas A and m Vladeslav.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
So I've got the next yeah two And this is
a what I would consider a retroactive and a bittersweet pick.
I'm gonna go juju watins from.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Usc Ay bit to sweet one, a bitter.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Sweet moment there with the Galen Center and then with
my last pick. Remember this name. It's Iowa State sixty
three center. Just completed her sophomore season. Her name is
Audi Crooks. Remember that name. This season overall what sixty
one percent from the field, twenty three points a game
(33:17):
in a tournament loss to Michigan, thirteen out of eighteen
from the field. Again, just completed her sophomore campaign. I'm
just gonna say to people out there, remember that name,
Audi Crooks. Fantastic moves in the post. And with that
we go back to Iowa.
Speaker 8 (33:31):
Sam.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I didn't know we could delve into the women's tournament.
But yeah, Audie Crook's there, great big Audie Crooks. She's
she's a powerhouse there at Iowa State. She's she's kind
of developing a little Kaylyn Clark Clout kind of in
their names. Umm, I'm going to go with a steady
as she goes, steady as he goes. Trey Holloman, Michigan State.
(33:51):
He had fourteen against New Mexico, fourteen against Bryant. I
just had to pick a guy off Michigan State because
I have him going deep.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
And with the next pick, we hala at Jason because
I've been watching.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
So much Cooper Flag that I took in the first round.
I've been appreciating the steady game of Tyres Procter, a
third year guard for Duke. He's the kind of guy
that keeps everything going on that team. Doug could probably
give me his analysis of Tyreese. I just found out
he was born in Sydney. Tyres Proctor Duke guard Proctor.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Where is Proctor?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Final pick? Right there, Douglas M. Gauntleeb tyresee Proctor.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Tyre's Proctor's really improved. I mean that's the guy. You
got to be super happy for considering. He also reclassed
when he went to Duke and had had a big
time year. You know, I'm just like watching Mark sears Man.
One last year of watching sears he went to Ohio,
you I think his first two years and then since
(34:53):
coming back home. He's from muscle shows Alabama. Right, muscle
shows Alabama. I'll know everything there is to know about
shrimp and business. Anyway, love watching Mark series.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Play good draft everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Yeah, it's actually a muscle shoes beach not far from here,
Muscle shoals Beach.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
There's not muscle shoals beaches. Muscle beach isn't there.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Well, there's muscle beach that's Venice, right, But there's a
muscle shoals beach that's south of Santa Barbara. Just a
little fact.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
We I had no idea. Weird, wacky and wild stuff.
Weird wacky will stuff coming next to The Doug Otley Show,
lifet the tyreg dot Com Studios. We'll focus on the
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