July 16, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug talks about Bronny James and responds to Dan Patrick's take that Doug was looking for clicks when Doug tweeted that Bronny would likely not start for his Green Bay team. Doug gives his best guess on what is going to happen to Florida State and Clemson in the college realignment space. Doug explains why he loves the comments made by Tiger Woods about Colin Montgomerie. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a game of "Rank 'Em".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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welcome in Hope. You're great, absolutely great. We've done this
thing where no one is ever allowed to be honest anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's what it is. And to start this radio show,
I'll admit something, Okay, I have not gotten every every
analysis of every player right. Matter of fact, I've gotten
some very wrong. Some I've over sold and thought they
were better than they were. Some I've undersold, and especially
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in basketball, like look, I'll admit it. I didn't think
Lamar Jackson was going to be a very good pro.
I've always been a guy that thought Sam Donald has
the makeup of somebody who would be better. I'm wrong.
I am hopeful that Sam Donald gets his chance with
the good football team this year in a good system,
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one that he knows, coming up from San Francisco with
the Minnesota Vikings. But let's be honest, he's become a journeyman.
Lamar Jackson's been a two time MVP, and all I
had with my data was my eyes and people I
talked to, and you know, the last couple of times
I saw him play, Lamar Jackson's last bowl game was
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against Misissippi State. Was awful, awful, and we took the
questions about his speed and his lack of desire to
play another position, and we made it into we made
it into a million things. It was not what it was.
Was like he was so inaccurate at times that a
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lot of people were like, are you you sure you're
going to play them at quarterback? Because as incredible as
he is with the football, like, you got to be
accurate be an NFL quarterback, and you got to be
able to throw outside the numbers and push the ball
downfield more than just how to play action. But Lamar
Jackson has improved steadily, was initially put in a system
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where it brought out the best in him. And conversely,
Sam Donald was playing for a terrible team, a terrible coach,
lost his confidence and all of his bad habits came out,
and he's now on his fourth team in the NFL.
So I've not got everyone right. This one, I've gotten right. Okay,
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Bronnie James is struggling, and I'm not dancing on his grave.
I'm not laughing at him. I'm telling you, I know
what it takes to make an NBA team, and I
saw all this coming. If you've listened to this show
for the last year and a half, you're sitting there
nod in your head, going you are right. But I'm
not like rubbing your nose. You're not taking a victory
(03:30):
lap in it. I'm telling you that what happens out
of it, and it still happened today, is that people
make it out that you're hating or even trolling when
you give an opinion that is not seen as positive
towards lebron James Junior Akka Brinnie James. Two things happen
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in succession. First, there was some lip reading of Jalen
Brown night. Jaalen Brown went to the game last night
with Angel Reese and his girlfriend. His girlfriend is a
former WNBA player. I think she's played for like eight teams.
And at some point during the game, when Bronnie struggled,
he shot two airballs. He wasn't particularly good. Jalen Brown
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turned to her and said, I don't think he's a pro,
and she said, yeah, I think he'll play in the
G League and he said, no, he'll be on the Lakers.
Because of his name, it was pretty obvious lipperating. I'm
not a lip rereading specialist. I'm definitely not the lip
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reader on Seinfeld, but it's not that hard to guess
that that was what he was lipping. So instead of
denying it, here's what Jalen Brown said when he quote
tweeted it earlier today. It's a flex to have your
son alongside you in the NBA, or a flex on
greatness and longevity. Bronnie has all the tools around him
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to be successful. I look forward to watching his growth.
In other words, do you not realize that this doesn't happen?
Jalen Brown did not deny what we all read his
lips to saying, and even in his statement of he
has all the tools around him. He didn't say he
has all the tools. He says he has everybody helping
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him in order for him to be a pro. A
couple of days ago, I was asked on Twitter if
Bronnie James would be my best player. I can't remember
what the actual question was, but it was essentially, would
Bronnie start for you? And my answer, well, my answer
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so here's the question, Doug, is Bronnie good enough to
start for your team Wisconsin? Be honest? Answer the question, Doug,
could you work with them and get them NBA ready? Okay?
And my answer was he would compete to start. But
while I like how he moves the ball defends, he
wouldn't be my point. I don't see Buma's point guard.
He doesn't play point guard, he doesn't want the ball,
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he doesn't run a team, he doesn't want to defend
the point guard. He didn't play like a point so
he wouldn't be my point. My wings are bigger, and
without seeing him with us, I think it would be
hard for him to start to be honest. Here's what
Dan Patrick said about that tweet.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I do like Doug Gottlieb was trolling people and somehow
got a chance to use Bronnie James into a story
about Doug's new job as the head coach of Wisconsin
Green Bay basketball team, where Doug says Bronnie probably wouldn't
start for my team at Wisconsin Green Bay, to which
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I'd say, Doug, that's kind of an indictment on your
coaching if he can't start for your team. Yes, he
would be able to start for your team in Wisconsin
green Bay. But Doug did what you're supposed to do
in this business. He trolled people, probably got a lot
of clicks there.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So again, like Dan takes actual analysis. Somebody asked me
a question. I answered the question about my team. That's
an indictment on my coaching. What are you talking about?
How about just you know? Actually, Dan, you can text
me and ask me my roster. Well, who do you
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have started the wings? I have a young man named
Anthony Roy will very likely start at a wing for me.
He was a Naial American. Now he's well traveled. We're
actually his fifth school. He's played Division one basketball in
New Mexico State at San Francisco. He's just older, more
experienced than Frankly he's a better I have to have
somebody who can score. Anthony Roy can score the other wing.
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I have a lot of other options, one of which
is Foster Wonders, who's an elite, elite shooter. I think
he shot well in the mid forties from three last
year and he's six foot five. So Dan, none of
this has I have Donovan Santorro, who's only played a year,
barely played at Providence last year. He's six foot eight.
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If you actually read my tweet, it's an accurate, accurate
depiction of what I think of him. He's not a
point guard. My point guard would be Jeremiah Johnson, very likely.
Jeremiah Johnson is a top one hundred and fifty recruit.
He's actually older than Bronnie James. He's twenty going to
be twenty one years old. I think he's a better
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pro prospect than Bronnie James. He's about six foot two.
He's a tremendous scorer. He played for Ote this year.
None of this is trolling, So look, we got to
get out of the hole. Well, if you had negative
comments about Bronnie, all I've ever said is was a joke.
He was a McDonald's All American last year. It's equally
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laughable that he was drafted this year and that people
actually fell for the whole Rich Paul, Oh, there's no,
We're not gonna there's no, there's no package deal with
him and Lebron. Other teams. We told him not to
draft him. Nobody thought he was going to be drafted
or should be drafted that spot. And we put a
young man in a position to fail to fail. And
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now what's very likely happened is you kill any of
his confidence. And now even if he ever develops and
becomes good enough to get real minutes in the NBA,
no one's gonna take it seriously. JJ Reddick said he'd
earned it because he'd worked hard. This is nothing more.
And I coached AAU basketball so Dan, I actually know
what the hell I'm talking about. Every parent you have,
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myself included with my own kid, believes their kid is
a little bit better or a lot better than they
actually are. And I think what happened with Lebron is
one he thinks his kid's really good, and too he
sees how hard this kid works, not having the perspective of, hey,
everybody works that hard like you would believe leave the
volume of shots and work that my players do last year.
(10:05):
As you know, I consulted oklhom state that those guys did.
There's a young man named John Michael Wright. Shout out
to John Michael Wright. He shot twenty five thousand threes
last summer. They used the technology called shot tracker. They
documented he shot twenty five thousand threes last summer. Amazing.
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And all Lebron's guilty of is being the overly ambitious
parent and using all of his weight to get his
kid to a level that's beyond his level of competency.
As we told you before, that's Peter principle. And when
Jalen Brown says it, he means it. Of course he
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means it. When I say it, of course I mean it.
But instead this gets skewed into the you're a hater
or now I'm what was I'm trolling? Wasn't trolling? It
was asked a question. I gave an honest answer. That's
not trolling.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Go ahead, Jay, what did jj Reddit call it? Engagement farming?
I guess this is what Dan is accusing you of. Yes,
the thing that Dan just doesn't quite have is the
context here, like that tweet. When I read it first,
it was unsurprising to me because I've heard you for
the last eighteen months give your eval of Brownie, So
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to me, it wasn't a surprise at all. But I
think what the New York Post picked it up, awful
Announcing picks it up, and then it's in the blogosphere.
And just because it goes viral doesn't mean that the
source is looking for clicks. You're almost looking at it backwards,
I think. And I don't fault Dan because he kind
of probably just helicoptered in here. But just because your
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tweet goes viral doesn't mean you're looking for engagement. Like
that response to that quot us on Twitter was very
consistent with what you've been saying about Brownie for the
last eighteen months.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And oh yeah, by the way, there's a there's a
portion of it where like I like the players that
I recruited. By the way, I would love to coach
Bonnie James at this level. I've told people, which now
people are coming around to. He should have gone to
do Caine, go to Dukane play for a year two years,
get supreme self confidence in what you're doing, establish an identity,
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for who you are. I mean, if you really want
to get down to what happened, was the first game
or two, he just went out there and played and
people were like, well, he's not attacking, he's not doing much,
like that's actually how he plays. I've seen him play
one hundred times. That's how he plays. And then when
he had that really tough one where he was what
was he like? He was? He shot the ball very poorly.
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I want to say four for thirteen, but I could
be wrong with the stats. The point is that that
was a game and where and he had no assist.
That was a game where he was trying to do
something which kind of step out of body, which is
trying to be an offensive guy and take over games
like that. Ain't who he is now. Look, that's not
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bad if you come to Green Bay and a coach
is behind you and doing it. If you go to Dukane,
which is a higher level than the A ten is
a higher level than our level. You go to Dukane
and your coach gives you the green light like eventually
you can get there. But that's not what the NBA is,
and he's not good enough to do that in the
G League. And I think the process of trying to
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get him to that point is going to kill his confidence.
And if it doesn't kill his confidence, it's gonna kill
everybody around hi, because they're all gonna roll their eyes
because it's supposed to be professional basketball, and professional basketball
is supposed to be about winning games and winning games,
about being putting the best players out there. But I
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thought that was I mean, we could do a whole
show on the BROWNI th on how so many of
these people just lined up to say all these incredible
things about him, either not having watched him play, or
not having the ability to properly analyze what they've seen,
or just scared to tell what they actually think because
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somehow they think Bronnie's gonna get lebron is gonna you know,
wipe them off of any TV or radio broadcast, you know.
And again maybe it's it's like the Trump thing, like, look,
he he just everybody who said anything bad about him,
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He got them like ostracized, ostracized, ostracized, no matter how
true they were, you know. And now because you know,
Biden just appears too old to do the job, and
because some crazy person took a shot at him, like
it's a rap and now he's gonna win and that
gets you. So maybe that's Lebron's thing, is like, look,
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it works for other people. You're really powerful, and somebody
says anything negative even when it's even when it's true,
you just use your power. Maybe that's the lesson that
I'm missing. I'm just sitting here telling you what I see,
what I think Jalen Brown did the same thing got
caught on camera, and oh yeah, by the way, good
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for Jalen Brown. There was no denial of what he said. None.
That takes some chutzpah, and in this day and age,
we just don't have it unless you're on a hot
take show. And those shows, which one of them is
coming to an end, reflect poorly upon us because I
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think Dan thinks that's what everybody does, and I don't.
I don't say things for effect. I don't care. I
naturally pissed people off. It's a gift. But if you
got pissed over me telling you what my actionol basketball
analysis of Lebron James Junior or Bronnie James, that's on you,
not on me. I stand by it. I like how
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he guards, I likes how he moves the ball. I
like how he gets along with teammates, okay, but it
wouldn't be my starting point. He's definitely not better than
Anthony Roy for what I need. And if I had
a third, third spot for him, it'd be tough. It's
not a no, never, it's a it'd be tough.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
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Wait to hear how Tiger Woods responded to Colin Montgomery.
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It was great, we'll get to that upcoming. But continued
talks and rumors of expansion in college football, Florida State
still upset at being kind of left out of the
conference shuffle. They don't like the deal they have with television,
and it appears that the SEC yesterday Greg Saank He's like, eh,
(17:50):
we're good. And though the Big ten may expand, Florida
State does not fit what they want Clemson either. Part
of what what what Greg Sankee's not saying is a
poorly kept secret that in the SEC, Kentucky, South Carolina,
Georgia and Florida have an alliance. I tell people all
(18:15):
along that Survivor is, by my estimation, the best show
in terms of helping you understand how business relationships work. Right.
So much of it is about alliances, and yes, people
(18:37):
will turn on you in those alliances. A lot of
them will, you know, just for self preservation. But that's all.
This is a case of right, would the SEC like
to have Florida State and Clemson? Yeah, probably Louisville and
Georgia Tech. Sure, that gives them twenty teams, all regionally based.
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You already have Missipis, you have Auburn Alabama. You already
have Texas and Oklahoma, though not in the same state,
natural rival rivals. Right, you know, Arkansas has their own state.
There's no other big time Division one, but they'll net.
Memphis will never get in because of Arkansas. But the
point is that those schools, and I believe when they
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got Missouri, Hey, Missouri was a part of the alliance,
and A and M for a long time thought that
was their deal too. Hey, nobody else from Texas is
getting it, but Texas is. It's just too big to
say no to. Once they could get them, the SEC
took him. But that does open up the door for
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the Big twelve, and the Big twelve would more than
make it work. And the question is where would the
Big twelve stop? Right? Would they stop with just those two?
Would they add Louisville, which would make sense with Cincinnati
giving them an old Metro Conference USA? I don't if
you guys remember they're actually in the Great Midwest Conference together, Like,
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where would they stop? But Clemson in South Carolina. They
have value, maybe not the value of a North Carolina
because of North Carolina their academic credentials are better. But
the SEC saying hey we're good and the Big twelve
saying we're open for business. That tells you all you
need to know. Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Man,
(20:26):
there's a lot of stuff going on. I thought we
had one of the best back and forth we've ever
had in our show prep meeting Jason when we were
talking about Brandon AOK, do you remember what was discussed?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I do, Man, I'll never forget it. To be honest,
I should have been recording. It was much better than
anything we've ever done on the air, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Here's the basis of it, Monci, Yeah, here's the basis
of it. We're going through all the different topics right
that we want to get to. I mean, you had
the national anthem and then she comes out and she's like, Hey,
I was drunk. I'm going to rehab like that whole thing.
It's one of those It's like when you're telling your
mama jokes and somebody says, your mama's got cancer, right,
like my mom has cancer? Like whoa? Like are we
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allowed to make fun of this shick we've never heard
of because she was drunk. Now she says she's going
to rehab. I don't know. We have a lot and
there's obviously more Bronni stuff. There's what were the other
topics which there's the conference expansion is there's a little
Caitlin Clark there as well. There's a good amount of topics.
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And I had started with when I picked up the phone,
I was talking to Jason, was like, all right, we
got Brandon Ayuk. We got I started to get through,
we got the DeVante Adams sound from NFL films where
he's like getting me out of here, and the talks.
And after we got done going through the topics, I
believe you circled back and you're like, where do you
want to put Brandon Ayuk? And I said, I think
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we have to leave that to Mancy. And you said,
if that doesn't say all it needs to be said
for Brandon Ayuk, I don't know what else there is. Correct.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Yeah, I thought that was a great line.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, it was a great.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
I mean, yeah, that's pretty much. Yeah, I think it
is a one liner.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, so it led your newscast, and our point in
our production meeting was there are so many other good
things to talk about today and Brandon and a yuk
just doesn't rise to the level of interest to even
cover today.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Yeah, especially when the reports are that they're not going
to trade him.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
He's just asking for one exactly right.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, okay, So I'll give you an example here, Monsey.
What I'm talking about. This stuff is gold. This is gold.
So Colin Montgomery said that tiger Wood should call it
a career because he didn't seem to enjoy a single
shot at the US Open. Okay, so they getting ready
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for the Open Championship. Okay, they get ready for the
Open Championship, which is that used to be the British
Open has always been called the Open Championship, but only
now we've taken to calling at the Opening Championship. And
this was tiger Wood's response when asked when he would
call it a career.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
You know, there was comments, you know, last week from
calling Montgomery who said, why is he here? He should retire.
Let's no point to this. Do you feel that's about hopeful?
And you've oilned the right to you make the decision
when you decided.
Speaker 10 (23:19):
Well, as a past champion, I'm exempt to him sixty
Colin's not. He's not a pass champion, so he's not exempt,
so he doesn't get the opportunity to make that decision
I do.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
You've you've led that you've deserved that.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
You have someone when I get to, maybe at his age,
I make that decision when he doesn't, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Do you know what that's called mons here? You know
that's called what that's called being a badass. Yeah, that's
called let that's called letting. You know that's called letting.
You're not saying a little bit right there? That's called
you know that is that's the don't you know who
I am?
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Don't you know who I am? Which I will point
out I get pulled over last night, So I.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Did you say that? Don't you know who I am?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I've never said that ever, ever said that because I'm
not Tiger effing Woods. So yesterday I drove twelve hours,
oh twelve. So my daughter Harper's in town and she
has a there's a gigantic riding show. Many people know
ifall me. She's a superstar equestrian, and I had to
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make the call. She didn't she could fly, and you
got to fly to Chicago and then fly there. You
can't fly even though it's like an hour if you
fly from Green Bay to Travers City. If you look
at a map, Traverse City is on virtually the tip
of the state of Michigan, Lower Michigan as it's called.
It's on the tip. It's beautiful, and Green Bay is
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close to the it's close to the northeastern tip of
the state of Wisconsin. So if you had a little
puddle jumper, you can jump over there in an hour.
Otherwise you got to drive around and it's six hours.
If you go to the upper Peninsula of Michigan, you
go all the way up above close to Canada, and
then you come back down through the mac Macinac Mackinaw Bridge,
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which is one of the oldest, biggest, longest bridges in
the country. And she's freaked out about bridges because of
the Baltimore Bridge collapse. Or you go through Chicago, but
that'd take it like eight hours, and that's that's a
no go. So I thought to myself, my daughter's eighteen
she's going to college in the fall, and I'm like,
how many times in my life am I going to
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get six six and a half hours in a car
with my daughter? And it was awesome. It was great.
We stopped a couple of times. We started the tractors supply,
which she loves. I have. I got a new puppy.
I don't know. I told you guys, I got a
new pup.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Puppy.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I got a puppy.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
That's how you start the show dog.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I got a puppy.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
What's kind of puppy?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Steepydodle?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
I don't know what that is, Like, I'm gonna look
it up. Say it again.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Sheep dog, poodle, sheep a doodle. I already have a
sheep a doodle, but he he's not with me. He's alive,
but he doesn't stay with me anymore. So, you know,
so I want to get I need a recruit, a
sheep of doodle. So I got a sheep a doodle
that came in Sunday night. So we took the dog
with us. The dog was awesome, cute, and we drove
six anyway. So I was gonna stay the night and
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get up in the morning and drive back and do
the show instead. I was like, ah, I'm feeling fine,
I'll turn around all just we had a great dinner,
walked around Travers City a little bit. She's staying with
a friend, and now we're coming back. So fifty one
in a thirty five at one thirty in the morning.
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Now I will give the Michigan Local Police officer credit.
He ticketed me at five miles an hour over. But
the point is when you pull somebody over at one
thirty in the morning, they either have to be going
ninety or be drunk right otherwise you're like, hey, man,
slow it down. So it's a route too, which goes
right along Lake Michigan, Like all along Lake Michigan. You know,
(27:13):
it's a two lane highway most of the way, and
so I you know, so you come into these small
little towns right on the lake, and I get you
got to slow it down. But I wasn't like jam
and jamming. But I had my bluetooth going. I was
listening to a podcast. My puppy was asleep. It's like
one thirty in the morning. I'm drinking some coffee and
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the guy's like, do you know what I pulled? Joke
for I was like, probably speeding, Yes, okay, and then
he starts getting into your driver's licenses California. These plates
are from Wisconsin. It's not your car. And I didn't
do the do you know who I am? Because I'm
just a radio host int basketball coach. But Tiger Woods
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he was pushed to the point of and the best
part of do you know who I am? Was he
didn't say do you know who I am? He just
said do you know.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Who I am?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And the last guy I can remember doing that was
Kevin Durant when Pat Beverley and those guys talked ish
about him and then he gave him fifty and he's like,
you know who I am? I'm Kevin Durant. I loved it.
Can we hear it again? I just want to listen
to Tiger Woods once again. Take his junk out and
put it right there on the table.
Speaker 9 (28:25):
You know, there was Coleman's you know last week from
Call Montgomery who said, why is he here?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He should retire?
Speaker 9 (28:30):
Let's no point to this. Do you feel that's about hopeful?
And you've filmed the right to you make the decision
when you decided, well.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
As a past champion, I'm exempt to him sixty. Colin's
not He's not a past champion, so he's not exempt.
So he doesn't get the opportunity to make that decision
I do. I mean, you've you've disserlved it. You saw
when I get Toby at his age, I to make
that decision. Why he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
How great is that. It wasn't just he said, you
know who I am? You know I'm a past champion.
You know Colin Montgomery, who's somehow in the Hall of Fame,
only never won crap on the PGA Tour and didn't
win the Open Championship, which as as somebody from Europe
he should win. And they know, yeah, by the way,
he's old. That's the other part that he said, that's
as good as sound as you're ever going to get.
(29:19):
That's as good a don't you know who I am?
Without saying don't you know who I am? That was
big time. Well done Tiger Woods. And it's interesting we're
talking about Dan Patrick. You know, Dan had an interview
with Tiger once that was fantastic and they were playing
golf together or no, he said he was doing an
(29:39):
interview about playing golf with him, and he's like how much,
Dan asked Colin. Excuse me? Dan asked Tiger how much
would we play for? And Tiger's response was whatever amount
makes you nervous. I thought that was a perfect response
to man, Tiger's good on his feet, really good on
his feet.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
And I got the assumption there is a no amount
makes meaner of us.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Correct, Well, big bank, take a little bank.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
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Speaker 2 (30:14):
Doug Golib Show, Fox Sports Radio. Here's the thing, Ryan,
when you play outkech Outcast as bumper music, I started
to think have I started searching social media, like maybe
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to drop an album and just start to get excited
about it. I know that's not the case because I
did search, and but you do get me excited about
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the pot prospects of at some point in time they
get back together. Let's let's do what we do every
day at this time. Let's play game.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
What's the game today, MONSI?
Speaker 8 (30:58):
We are going to be playing rank them and to
second but I wanted to let you know that this
just came in in the NFL. Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams.
They've agreed to a four year, fully guaranteed contract toward
thirty nine million that includes twenty five point five million
as a signing bonus and a fifth year team option. Obviously,
it was a number one overall pick in the draft,
(31:20):
so officially has signed his Rooki deal.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Caleb Williams, Okay, I mean all the talk of he
doesn't want to go to Chicago, he doesn't want to
go to Chicago, He's in Chicago.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Yeah, he's in Chicago, and he's he's getting a nice
deal out of it.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
But yeah, all right, let's play a game.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Now.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
We can do it.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
Ryan Smith Ranco, Yeah, all right, we are going to
be playing a Ranco on this Tuesday. Doug, You're going
to be ranking a variety of things, but let's start here.
Rank the three most impressive players that you have seen
so far in Summer League.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Impressive teams, No.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Players that you have seen so far in summer league.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
It's a small sample size, but.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Still impressive guys in Summer league.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I mean, I think the one that everyone's talking about
right now is a son of another kind of former player,
right in reed Shephard. I mean he's been he's been really,
really good. I mean that shouldn't be a surprise to
anybody who watched this year. What's crazy is you know
he actually he actually start this year at Kentucky. I
(32:41):
mean it's crazy. I mean I always thought, I mean,
guys that have a year in the league usually dominate
and play better. But I liked Hamie hawk As. I
thought the Lakers screwed up not drafted him last year.
Hami Hawkas has been dominant in summer league this year.
And then the other one I would say would be
(33:04):
probably Cody Williams from Utah. Super young, really talented, drafted
out of Colorado and he's been putting together a really
good summer with Utah Jazz.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
What are your.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Opinions on Zach Eadie Doug.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
I know he may not be the most impressive, but
I think he's he's been more impressive than people thought.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah. Again, I just don't know how it works in
a real NBA game, gotcha, Okay? You know at this
level against borderline NBA players, he's been good. Again, I
just don't know how it works long term and if
it works with John Moran. Gotcha, he's massive and he's
shown the ability on leaks send some level to defend
the rim. But you know, once you get the pace
(33:48):
in space and the regular season the NBA, I don't
know how he fits. I thought he was drafted too high,
but he's been impressive so far, considering all of our
doubts of the difference in.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Style of play, right exactly. Okay? The All Star Game
is tonight.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
The MLB All Star Games, so ranked the three baseball
players you're most looking forward to seeing at tonight's event,
which starts at eight Eastern.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Most. I'm most looking forward to seeing. Yes, God, I'm
I'm I'm gonna be a super curmudgeon here for a second. Okay,
I don't like the I don't like All Star Games. Okay, okay,
but but it's okay. I mean, I can you know,
I can tell you what I think. I mean, I'm
most interesting. Paul Schemes pitch, that'd be three. I mean,
(34:41):
how can you go wrong with seeing Shoho Tani of course,
of course that would be two. And then Aaron Judge.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Yeah, I think those are those are good. I'm with you.
I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Even know who was representing the Angels. I had to
look it up. It's really depressing, Doug.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Hey, but they have someone.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Tyler Anderson.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
He was a Yeah he was a Dodger's picture for
a hot second.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Yeah, that's kind of depressing, Doug Tyler Anderson.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
But they got one. They got one in there.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
You have to it's the worst rule. It's like the
worst rule in sports. Like I mean, it's it's basically
the Brownie James rule, Like, why are you here? My
dad got me drafted? Why are you here? The Angels
Mike Trout's hurt. So they threw a bunch of names
in the hat and they selected me.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
That's all right, Okay, we don't we?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
You rank the next top three? The top three quarterbacks
in the NFL. Execs and coaches they did a ranking
the top ten quarterbacks. I can tell you there, or
you want to just tell me your three, Well.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You tell me there's after I get to mind. Number
one is Pat Mahomes. Sometimes, forget about all that. Pat
Mahomes some one, he's the best. After that, that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Uh, Number two is really hard.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
This is really hard it's kind of just what floats
your boat.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
It doesn't come to mind.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's really hard. I mean, I'm gonna go, you know,
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna I'm gonna do what I want.
I'll just do what I think is best. Joe Burrow
number two, Okay, and I'll do Josh Allen three.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
Wow, Doug, you hit it right on the money. That
is exactly how they ranked the top three.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Patrick mahomes in at number one, Joe Burrow in a
number two, and Josh Allen in at number three.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
You agree with executives, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Okay, I mean it was hard, but it's more it's
it's more that number two is difficult, yes, because Burrow
has been hurt and and then Josh Allen has had
has a little bit of a hero complex. I did think,
did you see him hit two straight threes at the
golf tournament? And then somebody says like, is there anything
(37:21):
you can't do? And I was like, yeah, beat the chiefs? Right?
It was easy that those jokes right themselves, all right.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
Last one here, Doug ranked the three all time sports
provocateurs like Skip Bayless, Stephen Edge, Jim Rome, Colin Coward.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Wow. That sounds like a whole segment unto itself.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Wow, so hard to pick.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I mean, yeah, I think those are the three. I
think the three are Bayless, stephen A, the three recent
ones Baylist, stephen A, and Romy Yeah. Yeah, people didn't
have strong opinions for a long time, the outside of
I would coach sell, Yeah, but how would coach sell? Three?
(38:15):
I'll put uh skip Bayless two and Jim Rome one
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thing where no one is ever allowed to be honest anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's what it is. And to start this radio show,
I'll admit something, Okay, I have not gotten every every
analysis of every player right. Matter of fact, I've gotten
some very wrong. Some I've over sold and thought they
were better than they were. Some I've undersold, and especially
(01:15):
in basketball, like look, I'll admit it. I didn't think
Lamar Jackson was going to be a very good pro.
I've always been a guy that thought Sam Donald has
the makeup of somebody who would be better. I'm wrong.
I am hopeful that Sam Donald gets his chance with
the good football team this year in a good system,
(01:36):
one that he knows, coming up from San Francisco with
the Minnesota Vikings. But let's be honest, he's become a journeyman.
Lamar Jackson's been a two time MVP, and all I
had with my data was my eyes and people I
talked to, and you know, the last couple of times
I saw him play, Lamar Jackson's last bowl game was
(01:58):
against Misissippi State. Was awful, awful, and we took the
questions about his speed and his lack of desire to
play another position, and we made it into we made
it into a million things. It was not what it was.
Was like he was so inaccurate at times that a
(02:18):
lot of people were like, are you you sure you're
going to play them at quarterback? Because as incredible as
he is with the football, like, you got to be
accurate be an NFL quarterback, and you got to be
able to throw outside the numbers and push the ball
downfield more than just how to play action. But Lamar
Jackson has improved steadily, was initially put in a system
(02:43):
where it brought out the best in him. And conversely,
Sam Donald was playing for a terrible team, a terrible coach,
lost his confidence and all of his bad habits came out,
and he's now on his fourth team in the NFL.
So I've not got everyone right. This one, I've gotten right. Okay,
(03:10):
Bronnie James is struggling, and I'm not dancing on his grave.
I'm not laughing at him. I'm telling you, I know
what it takes to make an NBA team, and I
saw all this coming. If you've listened to this show
for the last year and a half, you're sitting there
nod in your head, going you are right. But I'm
not like rubbing your nose. You're not taking a victory
(03:30):
lap in it. I'm telling you that what happens out
of it, and it still happened today, is that people
make it out that you're hating or even trolling when
you give an opinion that is not seen as positive
towards lebron James Junior Akka Brinnie James. Two things happen
(03:52):
in succession. First, there was some lip reading of Jalen
Brown night. Jaalen Brown went to the game last night
with Angel Reese and his girlfriend. His girlfriend is a
former WNBA player. I think she's played for like eight teams.
And at some point during the game, when Bronnie struggled,
he shot two airballs. He wasn't particularly good. Jalen Brown
(04:15):
turned to her and said, I don't think he's a pro,
and she said, yeah, I think he'll play in the
G League and he said, no, he'll be on the Lakers.
Because of his name, it was pretty obvious lipperating. I'm
not a lip rereading specialist. I'm definitely not the lip
(04:36):
reader on Seinfeld, but it's not that hard to guess
that that was what he was lipping. So instead of
denying it, here's what Jalen Brown said when he quote
tweeted it earlier today. It's a flex to have your
son alongside you in the NBA, or a flex on
greatness and longevity. Bronnie has all the tools around him
(04:58):
to be successful. I look forward to watching his growth.
In other words, do you not realize that this doesn't happen?
Jalen Brown did not deny what we all read his
lips to saying, and even in his statement of he
has all the tools around him. He didn't say he
has all the tools. He says he has everybody helping
(05:20):
him in order for him to be a pro. A
couple of days ago, I was asked on Twitter if
Bronnie James would be my best player. I can't remember
what the actual question was, but it was essentially, would
Bronnie start for you? And my answer, well, my answer
(05:44):
so here's the question, Doug, is Bronnie good enough to
start for your team Wisconsin? Be honest? Answer the question, Doug,
could you work with them and get them NBA ready? Okay?
And my answer was he would compete to start. But
while I like how he moves the ball defends, he
wouldn't be my point. I don't see Buma's point guard.
He doesn't play point guard, he doesn't want the ball,
(06:06):
he doesn't run a team, he doesn't want to defend
the point guard. He didn't play like a point so
he wouldn't be my point. My wings are bigger, and
without seeing him with us, I think it would be
hard for him to start to be honest. Here's what
Dan Patrick said about that tweet.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I do like Doug Gottlieb was trolling people and somehow
got a chance to use Bronnie James into a story
about Doug's new job as the head coach of Wisconsin
Green Bay basketball team, where Doug says Bronnie probably wouldn't
start for my team at Wisconsin Green Bay, to which
(06:45):
I'd say, Doug, that's kind of an indictment on your
coaching if he can't start for your team. Yes, he
would be able to start for your team in Wisconsin
green Bay. But Doug did what you're supposed to do
in this business. He trolled people, probably got a lot
of clicks there.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So again, like Dan takes actual analysis. Somebody asked me
a question. I answered the question about my team. That's
an indictment on my coaching. What are you talking about?
How about just you know? Actually, Dan, you can text
me and ask me my roster. Well, who do you
(07:25):
have started the wings? I have a young man named
Anthony Roy will very likely start at a wing for me.
He was a Naial American. Now he's well traveled. We're
actually his fifth school. He's played Division one basketball in
New Mexico State at San Francisco. He's just older, more
experienced than Frankly he's a better I have to have
somebody who can score. Anthony Roy can score the other wing.
(07:49):
I have a lot of other options, one of which
is Foster Wonders, who's an elite, elite shooter. I think
he shot well in the mid forties from three last
year and he's six foot five. So Dan, none of
this has I have Donovan Santorro, who's only played a year,
barely played at Providence last year. He's six foot eight.
(08:11):
If you actually read my tweet, it's an accurate, accurate
depiction of what I think of him. He's not a
point guard. My point guard would be Jeremiah Johnson, very likely.
Jeremiah Johnson is a top one hundred and fifty recruit.
He's actually older than Bronnie James. He's twenty going to
be twenty one years old. I think he's a better
(08:32):
pro prospect than Bronnie James. He's about six foot two.
He's a tremendous scorer. He played for Ote this year.
None of this is trolling, So look, we got to
get out of the hole. Well, if you had negative
comments about Bronnie, all I've ever said is was a joke.
He was a McDonald's All American last year. It's equally
(08:54):
laughable that he was drafted this year and that people
actually fell for the whole Rich Paul, Oh, there's no,
We're not gonna there's no, there's no package deal with
him and Lebron. Other teams. We told him not to
draft him. Nobody thought he was going to be drafted
or should be drafted that spot. And we put a
young man in a position to fail to fail. And
(09:19):
now what's very likely happened is you kill any of
his confidence. And now even if he ever develops and
becomes good enough to get real minutes in the NBA,
no one's gonna take it seriously. JJ Reddick said he'd
earned it because he'd worked hard. This is nothing more.
And I coached AAU basketball so Dan, I actually know
what the hell I'm talking about. Every parent you have,
(09:41):
myself included with my own kid, believes their kid is
a little bit better or a lot better than they
actually are. And I think what happened with Lebron is
one he thinks his kid's really good, and too he
sees how hard this kid works, not having the perspective of, hey,
everybody works that hard like you would believe leave the
volume of shots and work that my players do last year.
(10:05):
As you know, I consulted oklhom state that those guys did.
There's a young man named John Michael Wright. Shout out
to John Michael Wright. He shot twenty five thousand threes
last summer. They used the technology called shot tracker. They
documented he shot twenty five thousand threes last summer. Amazing.
(10:30):
And all Lebron's guilty of is being the overly ambitious
parent and using all of his weight to get his
kid to a level that's beyond his level of competency.
As we told you before, that's Peter principle. And when
Jalen Brown says it, he means it. Of course he
(10:51):
means it. When I say it, of course I mean it.
But instead this gets skewed into the you're a hater
or now I'm what was I'm trolling? Wasn't trolling? It
was asked a question. I gave an honest answer. That's
not trolling.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Go ahead, Jay, what did jj Reddit call it? Engagement farming?
I guess this is what Dan is accusing you of. Yes,
the thing that Dan just doesn't quite have is the
context here, like that tweet. When I read it first,
it was unsurprising to me because I've heard you for
the last eighteen months give your eval of Brownie, So
(11:30):
to me, it wasn't a surprise at all. But I
think what the New York Post picked it up, awful
Announcing picks it up, and then it's in the blogosphere.
And just because it goes viral doesn't mean that the
source is looking for clicks. You're almost looking at it backwards,
I think. And I don't fault Dan because he kind
of probably just helicoptered in here. But just because your
(11:53):
tweet goes viral doesn't mean you're looking for engagement. Like
that response to that quot us on Twitter was very
consistent with what you've been saying about Brownie for the
last eighteen months.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And oh yeah, by the way, there's a there's a
portion of it where like I like the players that
I recruited. By the way, I would love to coach
Bonnie James at this level. I've told people, which now
people are coming around to. He should have gone to
do Caine, go to Dukane play for a year two years,
get supreme self confidence in what you're doing, establish an identity,
(12:28):
for who you are. I mean, if you really want
to get down to what happened, was the first game
or two, he just went out there and played and
people were like, well, he's not attacking, he's not doing much,
like that's actually how he plays. I've seen him play
one hundred times. That's how he plays. And then when
he had that really tough one where he was what
was he like? He was? He shot the ball very poorly.
(12:51):
I want to say four for thirteen, but I could
be wrong with the stats. The point is that that
was a game and where and he had no assist.
That was a game where he was trying to do
something which kind of step out of body, which is
trying to be an offensive guy and take over games
like that. Ain't who he is now. Look, that's not
(13:12):
bad if you come to Green Bay and a coach
is behind you and doing it. If you go to Dukane,
which is a higher level than the A ten is
a higher level than our level. You go to Dukane
and your coach gives you the green light like eventually
you can get there. But that's not what the NBA is,
and he's not good enough to do that in the
G League. And I think the process of trying to
(13:33):
get him to that point is going to kill his confidence.
And if it doesn't kill his confidence, it's gonna kill
everybody around hi, because they're all gonna roll their eyes
because it's supposed to be professional basketball, and professional basketball
is supposed to be about winning games and winning games,
about being putting the best players out there. But I
(13:56):
thought that was I mean, we could do a whole
show on the BROWNI th on how so many of
these people just lined up to say all these incredible
things about him, either not having watched him play, or
not having the ability to properly analyze what they've seen,
or just scared to tell what they actually think because
(14:19):
somehow they think Bronnie's gonna get lebron is gonna you know,
wipe them off of any TV or radio broadcast, you know.
And again maybe it's it's like the Trump thing, like, look,
he he just everybody who said anything bad about him,
(14:40):
He got them like ostracized, ostracized, ostracized, no matter how
true they were, you know. And now because you know,
Biden just appears too old to do the job, and
because some crazy person took a shot at him, like
it's a rap and now he's gonna win and that
gets you. So maybe that's Lebron's thing, is like, look,
(15:02):
it works for other people. You're really powerful, and somebody
says anything negative even when it's even when it's true,
you just use your power. Maybe that's the lesson that
I'm missing. I'm just sitting here telling you what I see,
what I think Jalen Brown did the same thing got
caught on camera, and oh yeah, by the way, good
(15:24):
for Jalen Brown. There was no denial of what he said. None.
That takes some chutzpah, and in this day and age,
we just don't have it unless you're on a hot
take show. And those shows, which one of them is
coming to an end, reflect poorly upon us because I
(15:45):
think Dan thinks that's what everybody does, and I don't.
I don't say things for effect. I don't care. I
naturally pissed people off. It's a gift. But if you
got pissed over me telling you what my actionol basketball
analysis of Lebron James Junior or Bronnie James, that's on you,
not on me. I stand by it. I like how
(16:09):
he guards, I likes how he moves the ball. I
like how he gets along with teammates, okay, but it
wouldn't be my starting point. He's definitely not better than
Anthony Roy for what I need. And if I had
a third, third spot for him, it'd be tough. It's
not a no, never, it's a it'd be tough.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
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It was great, we'll get to that upcoming. But continued
talks and rumors of expansion in college football, Florida State
still upset at being kind of left out of the
conference shuffle. They don't like the deal they have with television,
and it appears that the SEC yesterday Greg Saank He's like, eh,
(17:50):
we're good. And though the Big ten may expand, Florida
State does not fit what they want Clemson either. Part
of what what what Greg Sankee's not saying is a
poorly kept secret that in the SEC, Kentucky, South Carolina,
Georgia and Florida have an alliance. I tell people all
(18:15):
along that Survivor is, by my estimation, the best show
in terms of helping you understand how business relationships work. Right.
So much of it is about alliances, and yes, people
(18:37):
will turn on you in those alliances. A lot of
them will, you know, just for self preservation. But that's all.
This is a case of right, would the SEC like
to have Florida State and Clemson? Yeah, probably Louisville and
Georgia Tech. Sure, that gives them twenty teams, all regionally based.
(18:58):
You already have Missipis, you have Auburn Alabama. You already
have Texas and Oklahoma, though not in the same state,
natural rival rivals. Right, you know, Arkansas has their own state.
There's no other big time Division one, but they'll net.
Memphis will never get in because of Arkansas. But the
point is that those schools, and I believe when they
(19:20):
got Missouri, Hey, Missouri was a part of the alliance,
and A and M for a long time thought that
was their deal too. Hey, nobody else from Texas is
getting it, but Texas is. It's just too big to
say no to. Once they could get them, the SEC
took him. But that does open up the door for
(19:42):
the Big twelve, and the Big twelve would more than
make it work. And the question is where would the
Big twelve stop? Right? Would they stop with just those two?
Would they add Louisville, which would make sense with Cincinnati
giving them an old Metro Conference USA? I don't if
you guys remember they're actually in the Great Midwest Conference together, Like,
(20:03):
where would they stop? But Clemson in South Carolina. They
have value, maybe not the value of a North Carolina
because of North Carolina their academic credentials are better. But
the SEC saying hey we're good and the Big twelve
saying we're open for business. That tells you all you
need to know. Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Man,
(20:26):
there's a lot of stuff going on. I thought we
had one of the best back and forth we've ever
had in our show prep meeting Jason when we were
talking about Brandon AOK, do you remember what was discussed?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I do, Man, I'll never forget it. To be honest,
I should have been recording. It was much better than
anything we've ever done on the air, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Here's the basis of it, Monci, Yeah, here's the basis
of it. We're going through all the different topics right
that we want to get to. I mean, you had
the national anthem and then she comes out and she's like, Hey,
I was drunk. I'm going to rehab like that whole thing.
It's one of those It's like when you're telling your
mama jokes and somebody says, your mama's got cancer, right,
like my mom has cancer? Like whoa? Like are we
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allowed to make fun of this shick we've never heard
of because she was drunk. Now she says she's going
to rehab. I don't know. We have a lot and
there's obviously more Bronni stuff. There's what were the other
topics which there's the conference expansion is there's a little
Caitlin Clark there as well. There's a good amount of topics.
(21:29):
And I had started with when I picked up the phone,
I was talking to Jason, was like, all right, we
got Brandon Ayuk. We got I started to get through,
we got the DeVante Adams sound from NFL films where
he's like getting me out of here, and the talks.
And after we got done going through the topics, I
believe you circled back and you're like, where do you
want to put Brandon Ayuk? And I said, I think
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we have to leave that to Mancy. And you said,
if that doesn't say all it needs to be said
for Brandon Ayuk, I don't know what else there is. Correct.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Yeah, I thought that was a great line.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, it was a great.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
I mean, yeah, that's pretty much. Yeah, I think it
is a one liner.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, so it led your newscast, and our point in
our production meeting was there are so many other good
things to talk about today and Brandon and a yuk
just doesn't rise to the level of interest to even
cover today.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Yeah, especially when the reports are that they're not going
to trade him.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
He's just asking for one exactly right.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, okay, So I'll give you an example here, Monsey.
What I'm talking about. This stuff is gold. This is gold.
So Colin Montgomery said that tiger Wood should call it
a career because he didn't seem to enjoy a single
shot at the US Open. Okay, so they getting ready
(22:52):
for the Open Championship. Okay, they get ready for the
Open Championship, which is that used to be the British
Open has always been called the Open Championship, but only
now we've taken to calling at the Opening Championship. And
this was tiger Wood's response when asked when he would
call it a career.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
You know, there was comments, you know, last week from
calling Montgomery who said, why is he here? He should retire.
Let's no point to this. Do you feel that's about hopeful?
And you've oilned the right to you make the decision
when you decided.
Speaker 10 (23:19):
Well, as a past champion, I'm exempt to him sixty
Colin's not. He's not a pass champion, so he's not exempt,
so he doesn't get the opportunity to make that decision
I do.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
You've you've led that you've deserved that.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
You have someone when I get to, maybe at his age,
I make that decision when he doesn't, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Do you know what that's called mons here? You know
that's called what that's called being a badass. Yeah, that's
called let that's called letting. You know that's called letting.
You're not saying a little bit right there? That's called
you know that is that's the don't you know who
I am?
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Don't you know who I am? Which I will point
out I get pulled over last night, So I.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Did you say that? Don't you know who I am?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I've never said that ever, ever said that because I'm
not Tiger effing Woods. So yesterday I drove twelve hours,
oh twelve. So my daughter Harper's in town and she
has a there's a gigantic riding show. Many people know
ifall me. She's a superstar equestrian, and I had to
(24:29):
make the call. She didn't she could fly, and you
got to fly to Chicago and then fly there. You
can't fly even though it's like an hour if you
fly from Green Bay to Travers City. If you look
at a map, Traverse City is on virtually the tip
of the state of Michigan, Lower Michigan as it's called.
It's on the tip. It's beautiful, and Green Bay is
(24:51):
close to the it's close to the northeastern tip of
the state of Wisconsin. So if you had a little
puddle jumper, you can jump over there in an hour.
Otherwise you got to drive around and it's six hours.
If you go to the upper Peninsula of Michigan, you
go all the way up above close to Canada, and
then you come back down through the mac Macinac Mackinaw Bridge,
(25:15):
which is one of the oldest, biggest, longest bridges in
the country. And she's freaked out about bridges because of
the Baltimore Bridge collapse. Or you go through Chicago, but
that'd take it like eight hours, and that's that's a
no go. So I thought to myself, my daughter's eighteen
she's going to college in the fall, and I'm like,
how many times in my life am I going to
(25:36):
get six six and a half hours in a car
with my daughter? And it was awesome. It was great.
We stopped a couple of times. We started the tractors supply,
which she loves. I have. I got a new puppy.
I don't know. I told you guys, I got a
new pup.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Puppy.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I got a puppy.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
That's how you start the show dog.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I got a puppy.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
What's kind of puppy?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Steepydodle?
Speaker 7 (26:01):
I don't know what that is, Like, I'm gonna look
it up. Say it again.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Sheep dog, poodle, sheep a doodle. I already have a
sheep a doodle, but he he's not with me. He's alive,
but he doesn't stay with me anymore. So, you know,
so I want to get I need a recruit, a
sheep of doodle. So I got a sheep a doodle
that came in Sunday night. So we took the dog
with us. The dog was awesome, cute, and we drove
six anyway. So I was gonna stay the night and
(26:25):
get up in the morning and drive back and do
the show instead. I was like, ah, I'm feeling fine,
I'll turn around all just we had a great dinner,
walked around Travers City a little bit. She's staying with
a friend, and now we're coming back. So fifty one
in a thirty five at one thirty in the morning.
(26:48):
Now I will give the Michigan Local Police officer credit.
He ticketed me at five miles an hour over. But
the point is when you pull somebody over at one
thirty in the morning, they either have to be going
ninety or be drunk right otherwise you're like, hey, man,
slow it down. So it's a route too, which goes
right along Lake Michigan, Like all along Lake Michigan. You know,
(27:13):
it's a two lane highway most of the way, and
so I you know, so you come into these small
little towns right on the lake, and I get you
got to slow it down. But I wasn't like jam
and jamming. But I had my bluetooth going. I was
listening to a podcast. My puppy was asleep. It's like
one thirty in the morning. I'm drinking some coffee and
(27:33):
the guy's like, do you know what I pulled? Joke
for I was like, probably speeding, Yes, okay, and then
he starts getting into your driver's licenses California. These plates
are from Wisconsin. It's not your car. And I didn't
do the do you know who I am? Because I'm
just a radio host int basketball coach. But Tiger Woods
(27:56):
he was pushed to the point of and the best
part of do you know who I am? Was he
didn't say do you know who I am? He just
said do you know.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Who I am?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And the last guy I can remember doing that was
Kevin Durant when Pat Beverley and those guys talked ish
about him and then he gave him fifty and he's like,
you know who I am? I'm Kevin Durant. I loved it.
Can we hear it again? I just want to listen
to Tiger Woods once again. Take his junk out and
put it right there on the table.
Speaker 9 (28:25):
You know, there was Coleman's you know last week from
Call Montgomery who said, why is he here?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He should retire?
Speaker 9 (28:30):
Let's no point to this. Do you feel that's about hopeful?
And you've filmed the right to you make the decision
when you decided, well.
Speaker 10 (28:37):
As a past champion, I'm exempt to him sixty. Colin's
not He's not a past champion, so he's not exempt.
So he doesn't get the opportunity to make that decision
I do. I mean, you've you've disserlved it. You saw
when I get Toby at his age, I to make
that decision. Why he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
How great is that. It wasn't just he said, you
know who I am? You know I'm a past champion.
You know Colin Montgomery, who's somehow in the Hall of Fame,
only never won crap on the PGA Tour and didn't
win the Open Championship, which as as somebody from Europe
he should win. And they know, yeah, by the way,
he's old. That's the other part that he said, that's
as good as sound as you're ever going to get.
(29:19):
That's as good a don't you know who I am?
Without saying don't you know who I am? That was
big time. Well done Tiger Woods. And it's interesting we're
talking about Dan Patrick. You know, Dan had an interview
with Tiger once that was fantastic and they were playing
golf together or no, he said he was doing an
(29:39):
interview about playing golf with him, and he's like how much,
Dan asked Colin. Excuse me? Dan asked Tiger how much
would we play for? And Tiger's response was whatever amount
makes you nervous. I thought that was a perfect response
to man, Tiger's good on his feet, really good on
his feet.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
And I got the assumption there is a no amount
makes meaner of us.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Correct, Well, big bank, take a little bank.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Doug Golib Show, Fox Sports Radio. Here's the thing, Ryan,
when you play outkech Outcast as bumper music, I started
to think have I started searching social media, like maybe
Ryan knows that Outcast is getting back together and going
to drop an album and just start to get excited
about it. I know that's not the case because I
did search, and but you do get me excited about
(30:35):
the pot prospects of at some point in time they
get back together. Let's let's do what we do every
day at this time. Let's play game.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
What's the game today, MONSI?
Speaker 8 (30:58):
We are going to be playing rank them and to
second but I wanted to let you know that this
just came in in the NFL. Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams.
They've agreed to a four year, fully guaranteed contract toward
thirty nine million that includes twenty five point five million
as a signing bonus and a fifth year team option. Obviously,
it was a number one overall pick in the draft,
(31:20):
so officially has signed his Rooki deal.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Caleb Williams, Okay, I mean all the talk of he
doesn't want to go to Chicago, he doesn't want to
go to Chicago, He's in Chicago.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Yeah, he's in Chicago, and he's he's getting a nice
deal out of it.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
But yeah, all right, let's play a game.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Now.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
We can do it.
Speaker 8 (31:39):
Ryan Smith Ranco, Yeah, all right, we are going to
be playing a Ranco on this Tuesday. Doug, You're going
to be ranking a variety of things, but let's start here.
Rank the three most impressive players that you have seen
so far in Summer League.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Impressive teams, No.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Players that you have seen so far in summer league.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
It's a small sample size, but.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Still impressive guys in Summer league.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I mean, I think the one that everyone's talking about
right now is a son of another kind of former player,
right in reed Shephard. I mean he's been he's been really,
really good. I mean that shouldn't be a surprise to
anybody who watched this year. What's crazy is you know
he actually he actually start this year at Kentucky. I
(32:41):
mean it's crazy. I mean I always thought, I mean,
guys that have a year in the league usually dominate
and play better. But I liked Hamie hawk As. I
thought the Lakers screwed up not drafted him last year.
Hami Hawkas has been dominant in summer league this year.
And then the other one I would say would be
(33:04):
probably Cody Williams from Utah. Super young, really talented, drafted
out of Colorado and he's been putting together a really
good summer with Utah Jazz.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
What are your.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Opinions on Zach Eadie Doug.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
I know he may not be the most impressive, but
I think he's he's been more impressive than people thought.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah. Again, I just don't know how it works in
a real NBA game, gotcha, Okay? You know at this
level against borderline NBA players, he's been good. Again, I
just don't know how it works long term and if
it works with John Moran. Gotcha, he's massive and he's
shown the ability on leaks send some level to defend
the rim. But you know, once you get the pace
(33:48):
in space and the regular season the NBA, I don't
know how he fits. I thought he was drafted too high,
but he's been impressive so far, considering all of our
doubts of the difference in.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Style of play, right exactly. Okay? The All Star Game
is tonight.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
The MLB All Star Games, so ranked the three baseball
players you're most looking forward to seeing at tonight's event,
which starts at eight Eastern.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Most. I'm most looking forward to seeing. Yes, God, I'm
I'm I'm gonna be a super curmudgeon here for a second. Okay,
I don't like the I don't like All Star Games. Okay, okay,
but but it's okay. I mean, I can you know,
I can tell you what I think. I mean, I'm
most interesting. Paul Schemes pitch, that'd be three. I mean,
(34:41):
how can you go wrong with seeing Shoho Tani of course,
of course that would be two. And then Aaron Judge.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
Yeah, I think those are those are good. I'm with you.
I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Even know who was representing the Angels. I had to
look it up. It's really depressing, Doug.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Hey, but they have someone.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Tyler Anderson.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
He was a Yeah he was a Dodger's picture for
a hot second.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Yeah, that's kind of depressing, Doug Tyler Anderson.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
But they got one. They got one in there.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
You have to it's the worst rule. It's like the
worst rule in sports. Like I mean, it's it's basically
the Brownie James rule, Like, why are you here? My
dad got me drafted? Why are you here? The Angels
Mike Trout's hurt. So they threw a bunch of names
in the hat and they selected me.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
That's all right, Okay, we don't we?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
You rank the next top three? The top three quarterbacks
in the NFL. Execs and coaches they did a ranking
the top ten quarterbacks. I can tell you there, or
you want to just tell me your three, Well.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You tell me there's after I get to mind. Number
one is Pat Mahomes. Sometimes, forget about all that. Pat
Mahomes some one, he's the best. After that, that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Uh, Number two is really hard.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
This is really hard it's kind of just what floats
your boat.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
It doesn't come to mind.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
That's really hard. I mean, I'm gonna go, you know,
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna I'm gonna do what I want.
I'll just do what I think is best. Joe Burrow
number two, Okay, and I'll do Josh Allen three.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
Wow, Doug, you hit it right on the money. That
is exactly how they ranked the top three.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Patrick mahomes in at number one, Joe Burrow in a
number two, and Josh Allen in at number three.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
You agree with executives, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Okay, I mean it was hard, but it's more it's
it's more that number two is difficult, yes, because Burrow
has been hurt and and then Josh Allen has had
has a little bit of a hero complex. I did think,
did you see him hit two straight threes at the
golf tournament? And then somebody says like, is there anything
(37:21):
you can't do? And I was like, yeah, beat the chiefs? Right?
It was easy that those jokes right themselves, all right.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
Last one here, Doug ranked the three all time sports
provocateurs like Skip Bayless, Stephen Edge, Jim Rome, Colin Coward.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Wow. That sounds like a whole segment unto itself.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Wow, so hard to pick.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I mean, yeah, I think those are the three. I
think the three are Bayless, stephen A, the three recent
ones Baylist, stephen A, and Romy Yeah. Yeah, people didn't
have strong opinions for a long time, the outside of
I would coach sell, Yeah, but how would coach sell? Three?
(38:15):
I'll put uh skip Bayless two and Jim Rome one
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