December 11, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug gives his take on the scandal at Michigan as their football program has been thrown into chaos do to the decision making by now-former head coach Sherrone Moore. Doug welcomes former NFL tight end and standout at Oregon George Wrighster onto the show to talk about the Michigan situation. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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only one topic today, right, there's only one topic today.
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It is not the Green Bay Phoenix who Well, we
played a night against IU Indy and in a game
in which you know, we we got to compete in
against the school that runs the system where they press
and it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But that's not the story of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
The story day is Sharon Moore, who was who I mean,
that's a day right that where he was fired yesterday
with credible evidence of him being engaged in an inappropriate
relationship with a staff member. He was booked in custody. Hey,
(01:50):
last night, and you know, Pittsfield Police Department responded to
a call at four to ten pm Eastern time for
purpose of investigating alleged assault. He was taken into custody.
The incident does not appear to be random in nature.
It appears to be an ongoing then there appears to
be no ongoing threat to the community.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I'm just I'm gonna be different than these sanctimonious people
that are out there. Cheron Moore had a series of
really really bad decisions, really bad decisions. And when you're
a coach. I've heard David Blatt say this. David Blat
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remember when he was the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers.
He likened being a head coach in the NBA to
being a fighter fighter pilot and that you have to
make thousands of split second decisions. Now this is not
necessarily They weren't split second decisions, right, It's not just
that he was having an affair. It's not just that
he was having affair with somebody who worked for him.
So there was a lot of thought that went into always,
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you know, the whole thing hiring her. I don't know
if it the fair preceded hiring her or once she
was hired, I don't know, but all the thought that
went into it. It wasn't like it was being a
fighter pilot where you make a split second decision or
being a coach on the field where you got to
make it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Hey we're going for two. You're not going for two.
What are we doing with blitzing?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Wow, we're doing it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know, you've got to make split second decisions, but
they have to be based upon your level of preparation.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
But I I.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
One side, dumb, okay, dumb. And there is a gigantic
push in especially state institutions to hire females as part
of the basketball staff, the football staff, baseball staff, okay,
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director of ops whatever, because optics, and it also gives
you a different perspective. It's not always the male present
don't always know the right way to do things. But
it does not come without risk. And look, there can
be some risk because sometimes an office romance when two
people are both single, like in office romance, can be
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very very normal natural. This is not because he's married
and she works. Sorry for it, but under his guidance,
there's a pause in it. But I would have to
tell you, man, every not every guy, most guys, I
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know we have a self destruct button. I've been through
it myself, and I like, again, who am I to
cast stones when I'm a starting point guard Notre dame.
You know, I didn't come from a rich background, but
I definitely wasn't, you know, rubbing two pennies together, And
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yet I took other people's credit cards from their dorms
and used it. Again, it does pale in comparison, but
it's still the idea of you didn't need it, you
had to know the ramifications, and you end up having
to leave one of the most prestigious universities in the world. Right,
that's that self destruct button. I've hit it before. And
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oh yeah, by the way, I'm gonna tell you I've
been divorced before. I just I can't imagine being Sharon
More today. And dude, I get it, Like there's all
kinds of ratification we're going to talk about throughout the show. Right,
who's the next head coach? You know, freshman quarterbacks already
in the portal. Everyone in that program is going to
lose their job. That's how it works. Strength coach people
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that have nothing to do with anything. They did nothing wrong.
All they did was work every single day. That's the
deal about being a head coach. In order to hire assistance,
they have to believe in you as a person as
a coach, believe in the program, believe in the place
they're all in.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And their key cards don't work anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I guess sell their house, they gotta move their kids,
gotta find new schools, all because of his series of
terrible decisions. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm okay with any
of them. All of them are bad, all of them
are dumb. But I do find it really, really, really
really interesting how many people choose to you know, like, look,
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you come up with the Coldplay meme.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
That's funny, But I woke up going man, oh, I
got some empathy for that guy I just do.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Because he lost everything yesterday. Now do people say it's
over and never be blah blah blah blah. By Petrino
obviously is the guy who can go Hey, By Patrino,
same exact thing, only more spectacular way of going out
in the blaze of glory. Now By Petrino had one previously,
you know at Louisville been the NFL.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But by Petrino's done a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
But Bobby Petrino, by the way, was head coach at
Louisville a second time around. Bobby Patrino was the interim
coach at Arkansas a second time around after he got
fired for the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So it it does.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It feels at this moment he lost and cost everybody
everything everything. But there's a lot of dudes that do
a lot of bad stuff because of bad decisions.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You're like, I would never do that. No, you might not.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Hopefully you do not cheat on your on your spouse.
You have a drink and drive O wow, pool beers,
three beers. Okay, you're drinking drive, You're getting behind a
loaded weapon and you're taking everyone else's life in your
own hands with no real control over it. And the
likelihood of and you could kill people. That's sorry, worse
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than losing your job, moving your family. There's lots of
things that guys do that are we are. We are
the dumber part of the species. Like no, I would
never bowl that, I guarantee you know. We all have
that that trigger. Some some operate where they brush up
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against it more often. Some are smart and calm and
go like I know that name, I know that button,
that napalm, butmant button, I'm not hitting it. And for
all of those people, I commend you. I got to
tell you that I am a work in progress.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I just am. I'm a work in progress.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Last week I I use my Jedi strength to push
a stool when I didn't think anybody's looking and got
clipped on camera.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Nobody's around. I got made to be Bob freakin' Knight.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
By the way, if I can win this many games,
Bob Knight, it'll be a good it'll be a good run.
Point is that I understand guys do stupid stuff. This
is a series of really stupid decisions. Why are you
hiring a woman, and why are you sleeping with woman
out of wedlock, and why are you doing it with
somebody who works for you, and you work for the
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University of Michigan, and dude, don't and have friends that
go like, hey man, I know that you're I've seen
how you.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Guys look at each other, like, dude, we're all going
to get fired.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And you know we could go through the There's only
three undefeated teams, right, seventy two Dolphins, father time, and
you know the other one. If you don't ask a friend,
they'll tell you. I'm not saying it's okay in any way.
I realize that what's the what's the word? Jay stew
that you used the downstream effect great way, the downstream effect,
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not realizing how it affects everybody else. You just natepalmed
the winningest college football program of all time. Wow, but
he who's without sin can cast the first stone. I
ain't doing it. I ain't doing it. It's dumb, it's bad,
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it sucks. But he's not the first and won't be
the last. And the conversation you got it you'll have
with your buddies is like, dude, if you ever see
me ever, make guys, it's somebody at work, stop me,
tackle me, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And also should be the damn.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
We'll take a lot of people's opinions on it, and
I do value their opinions. And I know a lot
of people sit there and go, you're completely wrong. This
guy did something and he cost people their livelihood and
he ruined a great college wall program. I actually think
you're right. I'm not disputing that at all. I'm just
saying we're all human beings, and there's been plenty of
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dudes that have stepped out of their marriage. There have
been plenty of dudes that have done plenty of dumb things,
and I just I have some empathy for him today.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I have a lot of empathy for him today.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Mostly because again I don't know if he can make
amends with his wife. I have no idea of the
status of that relationship. But I can tell you going
through it is going through divorce. It's worst worst. You know,
there's no such thing as a good doors. Here's Adam Schefter,
ESPN's NFL Insider, talking about Sharon Moore's side of the story.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
For what we have in her yet is Charon Moore's
side of this, And he gets his say into this
particular situation as well, And I do know that he
felt like people had it in for him for an
awful long time there while he was at Michigan, he
felt like there were people who were out to get him.
So all these things can all be true. It's possible that, yes,
Michigan does have evidence that he had an inappropriate relationship
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with the staffer, and it could be that Charon Moore
is right that people had it in for him. But
the whole situation itself is just sad and tragic because
now we have a individual who had his professional life,
his personal life completely upended. We have a school with
a bunch of players who don't have a coach to
turn to right now, we have a school in search
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of a program a new coach to lead forth that program.
They are a whole host of things that have transpired
here that have led this to be a completely surreal,
wild situation that if you heard about it, you wouldn't
believe it because it almost seems made up.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I actually I believe that Schroan Moore feels like he
had people out to get him. He did, I'm sure
at people out again because he was in Jim Harbaugh
and they didn't do a national search and he got
the job, and they lost, you know, most of their
team to the NFL. It was all loaded up for
that one year, you know, and Mintor goes to the
Chargers with him and they had to start over. And
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the only thing great that happened last year was they
beat Ohio State, right. And then this year he gets
a freshman quarterback and game two of the season, they
go into Oklahoma and they get beat and they were better.
They were good, good, but not good enough. And when
you have two years in this competitive environment.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
People are not to get you. But you can't give
him a reason. You just can't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Can't do it, and he gave him an easy reason
to get rid of him.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
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Speaker 4 (13:44):
Here.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Dan Byer happily married man,
Jason Stewart happily Are you engaged, Jayce dou I'm just
I know Caes your smoking hot girl. I'm not trying
to put any pressure on you. But I know Jacobs engaged, right.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Okay, I'm not officially engaged. My son is yep.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, Sammy, I don't know your relationships.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Stead I have a girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Okay, I have a girlfriend. I am.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I have a girlfriend, I am, but I'm also divorced.
So again, we all come out from different perspectives, different perspectives.
My perspective look coaching a college team, I mean, obviously,
like there's a million decisions you can make, and I
have no doubt that he had the sense people are
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out to get him, and you feel like everybody's looking
at what you do when you just have to kind
of focus, calm the noise, coach the team get better.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
But dude, like what do we do? What are you
doing here? You just it's just dumb. But again, I
woke up today thinking, God, I feel bad for that car.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I feel bad for everybody involved. Right, the young woman,
she made a terrible decision, she ruined a family. Whether
the family stays together because you can sometimes mend these things.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
But I'm just trying to be a human being here,
not be you know your classic sports and but you
know sports sports, yacker, and do what everybody else does,
which is take a pound of flesh. Why you don't
have to take a pound of flesh, dude, it's already done.
Gary lost his job, probably gonna lose his marriage. I
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cost all of his best friends. You only hire people
that you respect, like frankly love. Those are the people
that you got to go to war with when you're
going to be a college coach, because it's really really.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Hard cost all those people's job.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So I actually woke up with empathy sympathy as well,
Dan Byer, your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
If on a scale one to ten, you had a
ten for empathy for Sharon Moore, I have a negative
a million. I just I don't have I don't have
any empathy at least not now. That may change, But
just know, empathy whatsoever for Sharon Moore at this time.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Okay, any other thoughts that you have that you want
to share on the actual situation.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Well, yeah, I mean I just I just I don't
like there's it's a separate situation when we look at
what happened.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So Sharon Moore.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Ends up having this this breakdown. It feels like from
the reports that we've heard after he found out that
he was being fired, that he was that this was
going down, and so it's I think we have to
separate the two in how we like look at the situation.
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But now the more that we're hearing about possibly people
knowing about this four months for this investigation to go
on and wrap up at this time, I think that
there are so many questions about Michigan, Michigan's role, why
it happened when it did, and I think that those
are the questions that I'm curious about. I know that
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there apparently was another woman involved in some affair. I
still put the onus on More's shoulders. He had so
much to lose, as you've pointed out, apparently she now
may have been the alleged victim where he was arrested
or I shouldn't say detained, I should say so.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
I just think that there's like this is just an
ugly situation. But I also think that Michigan is to
blame with part of it prior to this outburst because
of what was allowed and what wasn't allowed. And Sharon
Moore got away with a lot of stuff at Michigan,
so he probably thought he could get away with this,
and then when he didn't, when they decided to put
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their foot down for whatever reason they felt that they
needed to, whether it be alumni wanted to get rid
of them, whether it be they didn't he couldn't beat
Ohio State two weeks ago, whatever the reason is, Michigan
isn't innocent in all of this, and so I think
those are the that's the point that I look at.
Whether I feel awful for his family, I feel awful
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for his kids, It's gonna stink for the people that
I didn't know what was going on. But within the
Michigan football program, there are a lot of people who
knew what was going on with a lot of different
things and then never did anything about it until now
when it was convenient. And now look at where you are.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Case two.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I mean, I'm not even sure where to start, but
just in general, my blanket opinion on this, and I've
got George Reiser here that life comes down to a
series of choices. We all have the agency to make
decisions and choose things. If you're saying that the program
had it end for him, as Adam Schefter said, or
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if you're saying that you have a lot of empathy
for the guy you are, you seem to be taken
away from his responsibility and the choices that he made.
And at this juncture twenty four hours after the news broke,
I'm not willing to give him that latitude. This all
seems to go back to a decision or series of
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decisions that he made. It's all his fault.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Oh, they listen, I'm not abssolving him him. I'm not
absolving him. I'm not saying anything's done to him. He
did this himself, zero question about it. Did it himself. Okay,
that's the worst part about it. It's the it's the plexico.
Buris right. It's one thing to get shot in a club.
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It's another thing to shoot yourself in the club and
then go to jail for shooting yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You're like, oh, my right, and that's the worst part.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
My point is men, generally, it's a general statement, but
it is proven based upon every statistical analysis ever ever
ever make more dumb decisions than women. Do They just do, like,
that's why our insurance rates are higher. Duh, because we
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make bad decisions when we're driving. More men are incarcerated
than women incarcerated. Why because we make more bad decisions
than women. And I just again, I'm not absolving it
from I get it. Dude, like bro lost everything and
cost his best friends their job, and he was the
head coach at the winningest college football program of all time.
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That's all gone. And I'm not blaming anybody else. I'm
saying I understand the propensity to make bad decisions or
make a bad decision that can cost you. And then
when you wake up the next morning, it's and then
and then I actually understand uniquely the weight of media
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social media from my position. Now again, I'm saying, last
week I pushed it. I got mad, pushed the stool
by the way because we lost a game. I lost
my cool. Wasn't smart, not the end of the world.
There's nobody around. I don't think anybody saw. I wasn't
happy with myself. I just I was just so and
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I had kept my cools, shook hands with Andy Toole
and the entire staff and every player on the Robin
Morris team, and there was nothing that I got the ah,
and I just felt the weight of the world because
everybody made this gigantic deal like I'm Bob Knight throwing
a chair out in the middle of a crowd. So
I understand that uniquely. I understand bad decisions that lead
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to all the ramifications downstream, as you said, Jason, But
I mean there is a point of it where you
look around and.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Go like, damn, feel bad for that dude.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
George Reister joins us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. He played college ball at Oregon.
Of course, he's a former NFL tight end. And if
you haven't checked out The Unafraid Show with George Reister,
you should. It's podcast you can download from our iHeart
Podcast network. George, what was your immediate reaction when you
heard the story we heard the news break yesterday.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Well, it was kind of twofold because the first thing
that I heard was that he was getting fired, and
I was like, oh my god, they they got sick
of him. And then I thought why About two minutes
later and I was like, oh no, well that will
get you fired. It was just and then I started
Then my emotions started ranging because it was it's sad, dude.
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It's sad for his family. It's sad for all the
kids that committed to play for him, It's sad for
the recruits, for the the fan base, the disappointment. It's
like there there there are no winners here, and and
he and he made some very poor choices. And yes
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he's the only one to blame. But but at the
same time, as a person, you know who is who
is imperfect? I think, and none of us are. I
think it's easy to, you know, judge and say how
could you make that colossal of a decision when the
reality of life is that when you make bad choices,
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sometimes the consequences are severe.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
They are It is interesting, like we're at the holiday
season and everyone talks about Jesus and you're like, well,
you know, Jesus was forgiving and understanding. You know, it
was like, but but people can be so cruel when again,
I'm not saying that he deserves to keep his job.
I'm not saying that he shouldn't feel the weight of
what's happened. I'm saying he already does you like the
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old hey, let's go off the top rope and a
dude is clearly down for the count. Uh is the
is the piloting on and people taking great joy in
it because of their collegial ties. Like, dude, if you
want to do dig in Ohio State's got plenty of
creepos that that were that have been coaches there. Okay,
one was caught on camera when he was the head
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coach in the NFL. You go to Michigan State, you
can go to all of them, all the big ten.
How you go to school by school by school, they
all got an issue.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, let's let's let's not do it.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
We can do the whole radio show and I could
go through each one each and everyone. Yes, Dan Byron,
I'm talking about Ohio State. They don't employ angels that
have worked or played.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
In Ohio State. Don't act like they do.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
But yeah, okay, but but I think that people. You know,
it's easy to get your jokes off, but when you
look at this could have turned deadly for himself or
for the young lady involved in it too. That's the
that's when you realize, oh oh hold on, let's let's stop.
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Let's stop with these jokes, jokes and playing around.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Okay, now we got to talk about the sports aspect
of it. What do you do to hires? Who do
you hire?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Oh? See here here, here's what a tough part is,
because they have to hire somebody quickly, because.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Because because because you're gonna lose your team, every kid
that signed there is gonna be gone to because they
can all get in the portal.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
They can all get in the portal anyway. So but
but yeah, you gotta you gotta get ahead of that.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I'm probably probably trying. And I know that Michigan fans,
they they want to win the press conference. They want
to have a Matt Campbell moment, but unfortunately Matt Campbell
is not available now. And you've had Clark Lee over
there at Vanderbilt, Jeff Brohm at Louisville, Brent Key at
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Georgia Tech. All of these guys have announced extensions to
Kalani Tataki Rehtt lastly down at s m U. So
you're going to be at a point where maybe you
can poach a Jed Fish from from Washington or who's
coached there previously, or maybe you can get a guy
like Kate Klin de Bor if he's willing to leave
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at Alabama because they're not just going to be trying
to find a good head coach. Michigan wants to win
the press conference.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Oh no, they got it.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Whoever it is gotta be squeaky clean, right, you can't
come in after after Harbaugh, Harball gets a show cause
and sharn Moore gets fired two years later, and you
gotta you gotta go squeaky clean.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Everybody gotta go, like like if you were any way
tied to this, tied to the Connor Sallion thing or
or or anything, you gotta.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Go asam hmmm, I mean Deboor to Michigan. And people
are like, Lane Kiffin will then go to Alabama. I
don't know, I don't I don't. I don't see see
that one that would be that would be that would
be an all timers, be an all time Kiffin move.
What do you think of Kiffin at l s U?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
First of first of all, I think that LSU hired
the wrong guy. They they they should have gone an
hour and a half hired John Somemerall who's sitting in
Baton Lane or who? Yeah, who's who's that? Tulane in
New Orleans? An hour and a half away. He knows
what ATUFE is, he knows the difference between Gumbo and Jambalaya,
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he knows how to relate to those kids, and so
he could have done well and recruited, but you got
ls LSU. They wanted the Lane Kippen so bad because
they wanted be a name. And the reality is, yes,
Lane Kiffin has been a good head coach and he's
been good for a while, but he's only won one
conference championship in his history and that was at FAU
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and he blows up everything everywhere he goes. So I'm
not sure that if you're at LSU, I don't know
why you chase down somebody this hard, like like he's
Nick Saban or you know, or Kirby Smart.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Last thing, your biggest issue with the College Football Playoff Comittee.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Is what, oh what they what they did with Notre Dame.
But but not the fact that they left Notre Dame out,
It's more how they did it. So how the hell
are you going to have Notre Dame in front of
Miami for the on the Tuesday prior to the final
rankings and the Tuesday prior when they were in the
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same spot and not move them and switched them. The
problem is is that you as you set a precedent
by not switching them on the Tuesday prior or the
or the Tuesday prior to that, and then you switched
them at the last minute after Alabama gets their doors
knocked knocked off, when in reality Notre Dame and Miami
(28:21):
both should have been in the playoffs. I would have
punted the one hundred and third rushing offense in the
country in Alabama to the to the sun out of
sent them over to the Pop Start Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I wouldn't have punted in Alabama. But hey, that's that.
You're you're you're allowed.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Today had good wins, man better wins than those other ones.
But it's it's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
George, great stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I encourage people to check out download this podcast, The
Unafraid Show with George Reischer, this podcast Nightheartmedia. Of course
you can hear them weekends here on Fox Sports Radio. George,
we really appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yep, are they.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
We'll just say manure okay. We'll say manure okay, because
manure is usually made by one cattle, and we'll say
this is bull manure.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You know what I'm I'm the the word that I'm
expressing here. Okay, so you've heard this and I think
you've talked about it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Dan, there you go.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I saw this from Dan Wolken of Yahoo Sports. And
I'm not saying that Dan's report is wrong. What I'm
saying is here, let me let me show you uh
from Yahoo Sports. After learning of Notre Dame's memorandum of
understanding that grants the IRIS preferential playoff access starting next year,
(29:39):
athletic directors and other leagues are threatening to freeze Notre
Dame out of future schedules. Per Dan Wolkin, threatening the
number one job of athletic directors is what, Danny, why
(29:59):
don't you just send Sir Doug just tell us raise money?
There it is, raise money.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
So Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Calls and uh, let's pick a university in who's supposedly
threatening to not play them, right USC, Let's do the
USC thing like, oh, this is the reason USC doesn't
want to play them. M Do you want to fill
your stadium? Do you want to fill your hotel rooms?
Do you want to be on national TV and have
one of the highest rated Games of the year. You don't, Okay, well,
(30:27):
you know one plays.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I call manure bowl manure.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
The idea the threatening to is just such a gray area.
It's such a gray area if you're gonna if Notre
Dame wants to play you, if it works for your
coaches to have your coach is like, yeah, we'll play them.
You're gonna do it because you can make a crap
ton of money and you're gonna be on national TV.
If you're not gonna do it, they'll find somebody who will.
(30:55):
That's the reality of it. It just it like, oh,
now that they have a signed memorandum of understanding, they're
going to be in the College Wall Playoff. They finished
in the top twelve. Nothing of your decision is going
to change that. You're unhappy with it, that's on you. Your
job as an ad again. Now, part of it is
(31:16):
if schools don't want to play Notre Dame, it's because
they don't want to go through what Texas did. Why
would I play that game when it doesn't help me?
It only hurts me if I lose it. I'll play
Indiana schedule, don't play anybody. Win enough conference games, get
to the comp That's what's going to happen. That's what
the committee did. That's committee told.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Everybody to do. They told all.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Those SEC teams stop, stop playing good teams, stop it
Big ten two, and all these coaches sitting there going like,
the only way to keep your job, keep making money
is to get to the College Wall Playoff? Am I
more or less likely to make the College Wall Playoff
if I play one of the elite teams?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And the answer is less right less?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You have a less than fifty percent chance of winning
on the road and even at home. Man, you gotta
be really good and if you win it great, I
call Manure.
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Speaker 8 (32:50):
The game today is.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I feel a draft?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
All right?
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Brace on the heels of Iowa. Sam's tweet at Iowa
date could go for the clean sweep against Iowa tonin
Is that correct?
Speaker 9 (33:05):
Iowa s yeah, so I tweeted out, I can't remember
the last time Iowa State beat Iowa in football, wrestling,
women's basketball, and men's basketball in the same year, because
they won in wrestling for the first time since two
thousand and four, but they did not do the clean
sweep that year. And Doug basically I I asked Twitter
(33:27):
verse and then someone asked Groc and on on X
and Groc said that it's never happened before, so I
gets at least never happened for it's not ever a
long damn time.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So they already wrestled against him? Is no, they have
a duel again later? I know Oklahoma State has a
duel with Iowa.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
So the non conference in wrestling is sprinkled out through
the season. The Iowa State and Iowa already wrestled and
Iowa State upset Iowa.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Okay grappled. I like that, all right, So is that
what you are you first? Does he have the first pick?
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Well, I have to tell you what the topic is,
best in state rivalries in college sports. So Jason has
the first overall pick. I will pick second.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Is anybody gonna pick the Pyhawk episode? Sam doesn't get it?
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Doug is third and Jason is fourth. So Jason Eric
Sam is fourth. Jason, you were on the clock.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Sorry, Oh Nelly, I can't believe you gave me a
first pick on this one.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Granddaddy m.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Usc U c L a very interesting in state rivalry.
That's gonna move to Inglewood. That's weird.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
What city of champions Englewood?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
All Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna go off the board here.
I think they just played, uh within the past couple
of weeks college basketball, like Jason as city rivalry, Let's
go Xavier Cincinnati because it was where they couldn't play
because they were they would fight every time happened.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
With Clemson, South Carolina to and football.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I remember, Yeah, So let's go, let's go Xavier Cincinnati
and college him up.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It's two Holloway, Halloway, zip and zip him up, body back.
All right, all right, I'm gonna go bed them. Oklahoma State,
Oklahoma's big in Now they don't play in football currently.
It was the longest consecutive or, if there's another word, rivalry,
They uninterrupted rivalry until obviously they but they played this weekend.
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In basketball, they wrestle against each other. Golf's big, baseball's big.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Give me bed them.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Bedlam's off the board, Sam, you have the next two picks?
Speaker 9 (35:29):
Oh man, I only thought passed my first pick, which
I will go a syhawk near and dear. Shoot, let's go.
Let's just go Florida, Florida State. I really am just
not put us into this. Always seems to be bad blood.
I don't know sure why not pick?
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
You know?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Uh you guys ever seen the musical Best Little Hoohouse
State of Texas?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Have not?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Okay, it's a famous musical. It's actually musicals they made
into a movie as well. The legend is that the
victors of the Texas Texaan and and football game got
free run at the old Chicken Coop. So I'm gonna
go Texas and Texas A and.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
M all right, that's a good one. That's actually could
have been my first pick. This one also could have
been my first pick. They're eight miles apart. College basketball again,
Duke North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I love I love Dunk, I love Dunk.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
But according to Sam, when the Noles and Gators get
together on the hard work.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, missed a couple of the ones. What you got there,
jays dupe.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
This one will forever be called the mel Tucker verse.
Sharone more bull.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Inappropriate, the inappropriate relationship.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
Ball is that the battle for Paul Bunyan.
Speaker 8 (36:46):
No, Paul Onion is the axe and Wisconsin the axe.
There's the axes Wisconsin, Minnesota. Then there is a Paul
Bunyan status.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
Paul Bunyon is in that Michigan state.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
Michigan.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Really, I didn't know that. We'll look into it.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
A couple others that I know, Dan as near and
Dearer's heart. Holy war b yu utah, that's amazing, amazing.
Stanford Cal. Nobody mentioned Stanford Cal. Did anyone mentioned Stanford Call?
Speaker 6 (37:12):
No?
Speaker 8 (37:12):
I don't think so. Stanford Cal. Big game, right, We
missed Civil War. We missed apple cup, Apple cup, apple cup.
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only one topic today, right, there's only one topic today.
(01:13):
It is not the Green Bay Phoenix who Well, we
played a night against IU Indy and in a game
in which you know, we we got to compete in
against the school that runs the system where they press
and it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But that's not the story of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
The story day is Sharon Moore, who was who I mean,
that's a day right that where he was fired yesterday
with credible evidence of him being engaged in an inappropriate
relationship with a staff member. He was booked in custody. Hey,
(01:50):
last night, and you know, Pittsfield Police Department responded to
a call at four to ten pm Eastern time for
purpose of investigating alleged assault. He was taken into custody.
The incident does not appear to be random in nature.
It appears to be an ongoing then there appears to
be no ongoing threat to the community.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I'm just I'm gonna be different than these sanctimonious people
that are out there. Cheron Moore had a series of
really really bad decisions, really bad decisions. And when you're
a coach. I've heard David Blatt say this. David Blat
(02:38):
remember when he was the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers.
He likened being a head coach in the NBA to
being a fighter fighter pilot and that you have to
make thousands of split second decisions. Now this is not
necessarily They weren't split second decisions, right, It's not just
that he was having an affair. It's not just that
he was having affair with somebody who worked for him.
So there was a lot of thought that went into always,
(03:00):
you know, the whole thing hiring her. I don't know
if it the fair preceded hiring her or once she
was hired, I don't know, but all the thought that
went into it. It wasn't like it was being a
fighter pilot where you make a split second decision or
being a coach on the field where you got to
make it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Hey we're going for two. You're not going for two.
What are we doing with blitzing?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Wow, we're doing it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know, you've got to make split second decisions, but
they have to be based upon your level of preparation.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
But I I.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
One side, dumb, okay, dumb. And there is a gigantic
push in especially state institutions to hire females as part
of the basketball staff, the football staff, baseball staff, okay,
(03:52):
director of ops whatever, because optics, and it also gives
you a different perspective. It's not always the male present
don't always know the right way to do things. But
it does not come without risk. And look, there can
be some risk because sometimes an office romance when two
people are both single, like in office romance, can be
(04:14):
very very normal natural. This is not because he's married
and she works. Sorry for it, but under his guidance,
there's a pause in it. But I would have to
tell you, man, every not every guy, most guys, I
(04:35):
know we have a self destruct button. I've been through
it myself, and I like, again, who am I to
cast stones when I'm a starting point guard Notre dame.
You know, I didn't come from a rich background, but
I definitely wasn't, you know, rubbing two pennies together, And
(04:57):
yet I took other people's credit cards from their dorms
and used it. Again, it does pale in comparison, but
it's still the idea of you didn't need it, you
had to know the ramifications, and you end up having
to leave one of the most prestigious universities in the world. Right,
that's that self destruct button. I've hit it before. And
(05:19):
oh yeah, by the way, I'm gonna tell you I've
been divorced before. I just I can't imagine being Sharon
More today. And dude, I get it, Like there's all
kinds of ratification we're going to talk about throughout the show. Right,
who's the next head coach? You know, freshman quarterbacks already
in the portal. Everyone in that program is going to
lose their job. That's how it works. Strength coach people
(05:41):
that have nothing to do with anything. They did nothing wrong.
All they did was work every single day. That's the
deal about being a head coach. In order to hire assistance,
they have to believe in you as a person as
a coach, believe in the program, believe in the place
they're all in.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And their key cards don't work anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I guess sell their house, they gotta move their kids,
gotta find new schools, all because of his series of
terrible decisions. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm okay with any
of them. All of them are bad, all of them
are dumb. But I do find it really, really, really
really interesting how many people choose to you know, like, look,
(06:22):
you come up with the Coldplay meme.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
That's funny, But I woke up going man, oh, I
got some empathy for that guy I just do.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Because he lost everything yesterday. Now do people say it's
over and never be blah blah blah blah. By Petrino
obviously is the guy who can go Hey, By Patrino,
same exact thing, only more spectacular way of going out
in the blaze of glory. Now By Petrino had one previously,
you know at Louisville been the NFL.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But by Petrino's done a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
But Bobby Petrino, by the way, was head coach at
Louisville a second time around. Bobby Patrino was the interim
coach at Arkansas a second time around after he got
fired for the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So it it does.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It feels at this moment he lost and cost everybody
everything everything. But there's a lot of dudes that do
a lot of bad stuff because of bad decisions.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You're like, I would never do that. No, you might not.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Hopefully you do not cheat on your on your spouse.
You have a drink and drive O wow, pool beers,
three beers. Okay, you're drinking drive, You're getting behind a
loaded weapon and you're taking everyone else's life in your
own hands with no real control over it. And the
likelihood of and you could kill people. That's sorry, worse
(07:52):
than losing your job, moving your family. There's lots of
things that guys do that are we are. We are
the dumber part of the species. Like no, I would
never bowl that, I guarantee you know. We all have
that that trigger. Some some operate where they brush up
(08:13):
against it more often. Some are smart and calm and
go like I know that name, I know that button,
that napalm, butmant button, I'm not hitting it. And for
all of those people, I commend you. I got to
tell you that I am a work in progress.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I just am. I'm a work in progress.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Last week I I use my Jedi strength to push
a stool when I didn't think anybody's looking and got
clipped on camera.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Nobody's around. I got made to be Bob freakin' Knight.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
By the way, if I can win this many games,
Bob Knight, it'll be a good it'll be a good run.
Point is that I understand guys do stupid stuff. This
is a series of really stupid decisions. Why are you
hiring a woman, and why are you sleeping with woman
out of wedlock, and why are you doing it with
somebody who works for you, and you work for the
(09:04):
University of Michigan, and dude, don't and have friends that
go like, hey man, I know that you're I've seen
how you.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Guys look at each other, like, dude, we're all going
to get fired.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And you know we could go through the There's only
three undefeated teams, right, seventy two Dolphins, father time, and
you know the other one. If you don't ask a friend,
they'll tell you. I'm not saying it's okay in any way.
I realize that what's the what's the word? Jay stew
that you used the downstream effect great way, the downstream effect,
(09:39):
not realizing how it affects everybody else. You just natepalmed
the winningest college football program of all time. Wow, but
he who's without sin can cast the first stone. I
ain't doing it. I ain't doing it. It's dumb, it's bad,
(10:02):
it sucks. But he's not the first and won't be
the last. And the conversation you got it you'll have
with your buddies is like, dude, if you ever see
me ever, make guys, it's somebody at work, stop me,
tackle me, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
And also should be the damn.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
We'll take a lot of people's opinions on it, and
I do value their opinions. And I know a lot
of people sit there and go, you're completely wrong. This
guy did something and he cost people their livelihood and
he ruined a great college wall program. I actually think
you're right. I'm not disputing that at all. I'm just
saying we're all human beings, and there's been plenty of
(10:52):
dudes that have stepped out of their marriage. There have
been plenty of dudes that have done plenty of dumb things,
and I just I have some empathy for him today.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I have a lot of empathy for him today.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Mostly because again I don't know if he can make
amends with his wife. I have no idea of the
status of that relationship. But I can tell you going
through it is going through divorce. It's worst worst. You know,
there's no such thing as a good doors. Here's Adam Schefter,
ESPN's NFL Insider, talking about Sharon Moore's side of the story.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
For what we have in her yet is Charon Moore's
side of this, And he gets his say into this
particular situation as well, And I do know that he
felt like people had it in for him for an
awful long time there while he was at Michigan, he
felt like there were people who were out to get him.
So all these things can all be true. It's possible that, yes,
Michigan does have evidence that he had an inappropriate relationship
(11:47):
with the staffer, and it could be that Charon Moore
is right that people had it in for him. But
the whole situation itself is just sad and tragic because
now we have a individual who had his professional life,
his personal life completely upended. We have a school with
a bunch of players who don't have a coach to
turn to right now, we have a school in search
(12:08):
of a program a new coach to lead forth that program.
They are a whole host of things that have transpired
here that have led this to be a completely surreal,
wild situation that if you heard about it, you wouldn't
believe it because it almost seems made up.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I actually I believe that Schroan Moore feels like he
had people out to get him. He did, I'm sure
at people out again because he was in Jim Harbaugh
and they didn't do a national search and he got
the job, and they lost, you know, most of their
team to the NFL. It was all loaded up for
that one year, you know, and Mintor goes to the
Chargers with him and they had to start over. And
(12:48):
the only thing great that happened last year was they
beat Ohio State, right. And then this year he gets
a freshman quarterback and game two of the season, they
go into Oklahoma and they get beat and they were better.
They were good, good, but not good enough. And when
you have two years in this competitive environment.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
People are not to get you. But you can't give
him a reason. You just can't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Can't do it, and he gave him an easy reason
to get rid of him.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
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let's let's let's let's go around the room a little bit.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Here.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Dan Byer happily married man,
Jason Stewart happily Are you engaged, Jayce dou I'm just
I know Caes your smoking hot girl. I'm not trying
to put any pressure on you. But I know Jacobs engaged, right.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Okay, I'm not officially engaged. My son is yep.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, Sammy, I don't know your relationships.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Stead I have a girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Okay, I have a girlfriend. I am.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I have a girlfriend, I am, but I'm also divorced.
So again, we all come out from different perspectives, different perspectives.
My perspective look coaching a college team, I mean, obviously,
like there's a million decisions you can make, and I
have no doubt that he had the sense people are
(14:29):
out to get him, and you feel like everybody's looking
at what you do when you just have to kind
of focus, calm the noise, coach the team get better.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
But dude, like what do we do? What are you
doing here? You just it's just dumb. But again, I
woke up today thinking, God, I feel bad for that car.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I feel bad for everybody involved. Right, the young woman,
she made a terrible decision, she ruined a family. Whether
the family stays together because you can sometimes mend these things.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
But I'm just trying to be a human being here,
not be you know your classic sports and but you
know sports sports, yacker, and do what everybody else does,
which is take a pound of flesh. Why you don't
have to take a pound of flesh, dude, it's already done.
Gary lost his job, probably gonna lose his marriage. I
(15:23):
cost all of his best friends. You only hire people
that you respect, like frankly love. Those are the people
that you got to go to war with when you're
going to be a college coach, because it's really really.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Hard cost all those people's job.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So I actually woke up with empathy sympathy as well,
Dan Byer, your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
If on a scale one to ten, you had a
ten for empathy for Sharon Moore, I have a negative
a million. I just I don't have I don't have
any empathy at least not now. That may change, But
just know, empathy whatsoever for Sharon Moore at this time.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Okay, any other thoughts that you have that you want
to share on the actual situation.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Well, yeah, I mean I just I just I don't
like there's it's a separate situation when we look at
what happened.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
So Sharon Moore.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Ends up having this this breakdown. It feels like from
the reports that we've heard after he found out that
he was being fired, that he was that this was
going down, and so it's I think we have to
separate the two in how we like look at the situation.
(16:36):
But now the more that we're hearing about possibly people
knowing about this four months for this investigation to go
on and wrap up at this time, I think that
there are so many questions about Michigan, Michigan's role, why
it happened when it did, and I think that those
are the questions that I'm curious about. I know that
(16:57):
there apparently was another woman involved in some affair. I
still put the onus on More's shoulders. He had so
much to lose, as you've pointed out, apparently she now
may have been the alleged victim where he was arrested
or I shouldn't say detained, I should say so.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
I just think that there's like this is just an
ugly situation. But I also think that Michigan is to
blame with part of it prior to this outburst because
of what was allowed and what wasn't allowed. And Sharon
Moore got away with a lot of stuff at Michigan,
so he probably thought he could get away with this,
and then when he didn't, when they decided to put
(17:37):
their foot down for whatever reason they felt that they
needed to, whether it be alumni wanted to get rid
of them, whether it be they didn't he couldn't beat
Ohio State two weeks ago, whatever the reason is, Michigan
isn't innocent in all of this, and so I think
those are the that's the point that I look at.
Whether I feel awful for his family, I feel awful
(17:57):
for his kids, It's gonna stink for the people that
I didn't know what was going on. But within the
Michigan football program, there are a lot of people who
knew what was going on with a lot of different
things and then never did anything about it until now
when it was convenient. And now look at where you are.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Case two.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I mean, I'm not even sure where to start, but
just in general, my blanket opinion on this, and I've
got George Reiser here that life comes down to a
series of choices. We all have the agency to make
decisions and choose things. If you're saying that the program
had it end for him, as Adam Schefter said, or
(18:38):
if you're saying that you have a lot of empathy
for the guy you are, you seem to be taken
away from his responsibility and the choices that he made.
And at this juncture twenty four hours after the news broke,
I'm not willing to give him that latitude. This all
seems to go back to a decision or series of
(19:01):
decisions that he made. It's all his fault.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Oh, they listen, I'm not abssolving him him. I'm not
absolving him. I'm not saying anything's done to him. He
did this himself, zero question about it. Did it himself. Okay,
that's the worst part about it. It's the it's the plexico.
Buris right. It's one thing to get shot in a club.
(19:25):
It's another thing to shoot yourself in the club and
then go to jail for shooting yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You're like, oh, my right, and that's the worst part.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
My point is men, generally, it's a general statement, but
it is proven based upon every statistical analysis ever ever
ever make more dumb decisions than women. Do They just do, like,
that's why our insurance rates are higher. Duh, because we
(19:57):
make bad decisions when we're driving. More men are incarcerated
than women incarcerated. Why because we make more bad decisions
than women. And I just again, I'm not absolving it
from I get it. Dude, like bro lost everything and
cost his best friends their job, and he was the
head coach at the winningest college football program of all time.
(20:19):
That's all gone. And I'm not blaming anybody else. I'm
saying I understand the propensity to make bad decisions or
make a bad decision that can cost you. And then
when you wake up the next morning, it's and then
and then I actually understand uniquely the weight of media
(20:42):
social media from my position. Now again, I'm saying, last
week I pushed it. I got mad, pushed the stool
by the way because we lost a game. I lost
my cool. Wasn't smart, not the end of the world.
There's nobody around. I don't think anybody saw. I wasn't
happy with myself. I just I was just so and
(21:02):
I had kept my cools, shook hands with Andy Toole
and the entire staff and every player on the Robin
Morris team, and there was nothing that I got the ah,
and I just felt the weight of the world because
everybody made this gigantic deal like I'm Bob Knight throwing
a chair out in the middle of a crowd. So
I understand that uniquely. I understand bad decisions that lead
(21:23):
to all the ramifications downstream, as you said, Jason, But
I mean there is a point of it where you
look around and.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Go like, damn, feel bad for that dude.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
George Reister joins us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. He played college ball at Oregon.
Of course, he's a former NFL tight end. And if
you haven't checked out The Unafraid Show with George Reister,
you should. It's podcast you can download from our iHeart
Podcast network. George, what was your immediate reaction when you
heard the story we heard the news break yesterday.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Well, it was kind of twofold because the first thing
that I heard was that he was getting fired, and
I was like, oh my god, they they got sick
of him. And then I thought why About two minutes
later and I was like, oh no, well that will
get you fired. It was just and then I started
Then my emotions started ranging because it was it's sad, dude.
(22:21):
It's sad for his family. It's sad for all the
kids that committed to play for him, It's sad for
the recruits, for the the fan base, the disappointment. It's
like there there there are no winners here, and and
he and he made some very poor choices. And yes
(22:41):
he's the only one to blame. But but at the
same time, as a person, you know who is who
is imperfect? I think, and none of us are. I
think it's easy to, you know, judge and say how
could you make that colossal of a decision when the
reality of life is that when you make bad choices,
(23:03):
sometimes the consequences are severe.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
They are It is interesting, like we're at the holiday
season and everyone talks about Jesus and you're like, well,
you know, Jesus was forgiving and understanding. You know, it
was like, but but people can be so cruel when again,
I'm not saying that he deserves to keep his job.
I'm not saying that he shouldn't feel the weight of
what's happened. I'm saying he already does you like the
(23:27):
old hey, let's go off the top rope and a
dude is clearly down for the count. Uh is the
is the piloting on and people taking great joy in
it because of their collegial ties. Like, dude, if you
want to do dig in Ohio State's got plenty of
creepos that that were that have been coaches there. Okay,
one was caught on camera when he was the head
(23:47):
coach in the NFL. You go to Michigan State, you
can go to all of them, all the big ten.
How you go to school by school by school, they
all got an issue.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, let's let's let's not do it.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
We can do the whole radio show and I could
go through each one each and everyone. Yes, Dan Byron,
I'm talking about Ohio State. They don't employ angels that
have worked or played.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
In Ohio State. Don't act like they do.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
But yeah, okay, but but I think that people. You know,
it's easy to get your jokes off, but when you
look at this could have turned deadly for himself or
for the young lady involved in it too. That's the
that's when you realize, oh oh hold on, let's let's stop.
(24:29):
Let's stop with these jokes, jokes and playing around.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Okay, now we got to talk about the sports aspect
of it. What do you do to hires? Who do
you hire?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Oh? See here here, here's what a tough part is,
because they have to hire somebody quickly, because.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Because because because you're gonna lose your team, every kid
that signed there is gonna be gone to because they
can all get in the portal.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
They can all get in the portal anyway. So but
but yeah, you gotta you gotta get ahead of that.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I'm probably probably trying. And I know that Michigan fans,
they they want to win the press conference. They want
to have a Matt Campbell moment, but unfortunately Matt Campbell
is not available now. And you've had Clark Lee over
there at Vanderbilt, Jeff Brohm at Louisville, Brent Key at
(25:20):
Georgia Tech. All of these guys have announced extensions to
Kalani Tataki Rehtt lastly down at s m U. So
you're going to be at a point where maybe you
can poach a Jed Fish from from Washington or who's
coached there previously, or maybe you can get a guy
like Kate Klin de Bor if he's willing to leave
(25:42):
at Alabama because they're not just going to be trying
to find a good head coach. Michigan wants to win
the press conference.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Oh no, they got it.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Whoever it is gotta be squeaky clean, right, you can't
come in after after Harbaugh, Harball gets a show cause
and sharn Moore gets fired two years later, and you
gotta you gotta go squeaky clean.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Everybody gotta go, like like if you were any way
tied to this, tied to the Connor Sallion thing or
or or anything, you gotta.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Go asam hmmm, I mean Deboor to Michigan. And people
are like, Lane Kiffin will then go to Alabama. I
don't know, I don't I don't. I don't see see
that one that would be that would be that would
be an all timers, be an all time Kiffin move.
What do you think of Kiffin at l s U?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
First of first of all, I think that LSU hired
the wrong guy. They they they should have gone an
hour and a half hired John Somemerall who's sitting in
Baton Lane or who? Yeah, who's who's that? Tulane in
New Orleans? An hour and a half away. He knows
what ATUFE is, he knows the difference between Gumbo and Jambalaya,
(26:55):
he knows how to relate to those kids, and so
he could have done well and recruited, but you got
ls LSU. They wanted the Lane Kippen so bad because
they wanted be a name. And the reality is, yes,
Lane Kiffin has been a good head coach and he's
been good for a while, but he's only won one
conference championship in his history and that was at FAU
(27:18):
and he blows up everything everywhere he goes. So I'm
not sure that if you're at LSU, I don't know
why you chase down somebody this hard, like like he's
Nick Saban or you know, or Kirby Smart.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Last thing, your biggest issue with the College Football Playoff Comittee.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Is what, oh what they what they did with Notre Dame.
But but not the fact that they left Notre Dame out,
It's more how they did it. So how the hell
are you going to have Notre Dame in front of
Miami for the on the Tuesday prior to the final
rankings and the Tuesday prior when they were in the
(28:00):
same spot and not move them and switched them. The
problem is is that you as you set a precedent
by not switching them on the Tuesday prior or the
or the Tuesday prior to that, and then you switched
them at the last minute after Alabama gets their doors
knocked knocked off, when in reality Notre Dame and Miami
(28:21):
both should have been in the playoffs. I would have
punted the one hundred and third rushing offense in the
country in Alabama to the to the sun out of
sent them over to the Pop Start Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I wouldn't have punted in Alabama. But hey, that's that.
You're you're you're allowed.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Today had good wins, man better wins than those other ones.
But it's it's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
George, great stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I encourage people to check out download this podcast, The
Unafraid Show with George Reischer, this podcast Nightheartmedia. Of course
you can hear them weekends here on Fox Sports Radio. George,
we really appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yep, are they.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
We'll just say manure okay. We'll say manure okay, because
manure is usually made by one cattle, and we'll say
this is bull manure.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You know what I'm I'm the the word that I'm
expressing here. Okay, so you've heard this and I think
you've talked about it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Dan, there you go.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I saw this from Dan Wolken of Yahoo Sports. And
I'm not saying that Dan's report is wrong. What I'm
saying is here, let me let me show you uh
from Yahoo Sports. After learning of Notre Dame's memorandum of
understanding that grants the IRIS preferential playoff access starting next year,
(29:39):
athletic directors and other leagues are threatening to freeze Notre
Dame out of future schedules. Per Dan Wolkin, threatening the
number one job of athletic directors is what, Danny, why
(29:59):
don't you just send Sir Doug just tell us raise money?
There it is, raise money.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
So Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Calls and uh, let's pick a university in who's supposedly
threatening to not play them, right USC, Let's do the
USC thing like, oh, this is the reason USC doesn't
want to play them. M Do you want to fill
your stadium? Do you want to fill your hotel rooms?
Do you want to be on national TV and have
one of the highest rated Games of the year. You don't, Okay, well,
(30:27):
you know one plays.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I call manure bowl manure.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
The idea the threatening to is just such a gray area.
It's such a gray area if you're gonna if Notre
Dame wants to play you, if it works for your
coaches to have your coach is like, yeah, we'll play them.
You're gonna do it because you can make a crap
ton of money and you're gonna be on national TV.
If you're not gonna do it, they'll find somebody who will.
(30:55):
That's the reality of it. It just it like, oh,
now that they have a signed memorandum of understanding, they're
going to be in the College Wall Playoff. They finished
in the top twelve. Nothing of your decision is going
to change that. You're unhappy with it, that's on you. Your
job as an ad again. Now, part of it is
(31:16):
if schools don't want to play Notre Dame, it's because
they don't want to go through what Texas did. Why
would I play that game when it doesn't help me?
It only hurts me if I lose it. I'll play
Indiana schedule, don't play anybody. Win enough conference games, get
to the comp That's what's going to happen. That's what
the committee did. That's committee told.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Everybody to do. They told all.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Those SEC teams stop, stop playing good teams, stop it
Big ten two, and all these coaches sitting there going like,
the only way to keep your job, keep making money
is to get to the College Wall Playoff? Am I
more or less likely to make the College Wall Playoff
if I play one of the elite teams?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
And the answer is less right less?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You have a less than fifty percent chance of winning
on the road and even at home. Man, you gotta
be really good and if you win it great, I
call Manure.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
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Speaker 1 (32:12):
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Speaker 2 (32:18):
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Speaker 1 (32:18):
Throwback Thursday comes up top of the hour. That should
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Speaker 4 (32:25):
Good year.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
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Speaker 8 (32:50):
The game today is.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I feel a draft?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
All right?
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Brace on the heels of Iowa. Sam's tweet at Iowa
date could go for the clean sweep against Iowa tonin
Is that correct?
Speaker 9 (33:05):
Iowa s yeah, so I tweeted out, I can't remember
the last time Iowa State beat Iowa in football, wrestling,
women's basketball, and men's basketball in the same year, because
they won in wrestling for the first time since two
thousand and four, but they did not do the clean
sweep that year. And Doug basically I I asked Twitter
(33:27):
verse and then someone asked Groc and on on X
and Groc said that it's never happened before, so I
gets at least never happened for it's not ever a
long damn time.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So they already wrestled against him? Is no, they have
a duel again later? I know Oklahoma State has a
duel with Iowa.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
So the non conference in wrestling is sprinkled out through
the season. The Iowa State and Iowa already wrestled and
Iowa State upset Iowa.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Okay grappled. I like that, all right, So is that
what you are you first? Does he have the first pick?
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Well, I have to tell you what the topic is,
best in state rivalries in college sports. So Jason has
the first overall pick. I will pick second.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Is anybody gonna pick the Pyhawk episode? Sam doesn't get it?
Speaker 8 (34:06):
Doug is third and Jason is fourth. So Jason Eric
Sam is fourth. Jason, you were on the clock.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
Sorry, Oh Nelly, I can't believe you gave me a
first pick on this one.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Granddaddy m.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Usc U c L a very interesting in state rivalry.
That's gonna move to Inglewood. That's weird.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
What city of champions Englewood?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
All Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna go off the board here.
I think they just played, uh within the past couple
of weeks college basketball, like Jason as city rivalry, Let's
go Xavier Cincinnati because it was where they couldn't play
because they were they would fight every time happened.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
With Clemson, South Carolina to and football.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I remember, Yeah, So let's go, let's go Xavier Cincinnati
and college him up.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It's two Holloway, Halloway, zip and zip him up, body back.
All right, all right, I'm gonna go bed them. Oklahoma State,
Oklahoma's big in Now they don't play in football currently.
It was the longest consecutive or, if there's another word, rivalry,
They uninterrupted rivalry until obviously they but they played this weekend.
(35:19):
In basketball, they wrestle against each other. Golf's big, baseball's big.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Give me bed them.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Bedlam's off the board, Sam, you have the next two picks?
Speaker 9 (35:29):
Oh man, I only thought passed my first pick, which
I will go a syhawk near and dear. Shoot, let's go.
Let's just go Florida, Florida State. I really am just
not put us into this. Always seems to be bad blood.
I don't know sure why not pick?
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
You know?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Uh you guys ever seen the musical Best Little Hoohouse
State of Texas?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Have not?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Okay, it's a famous musical. It's actually musicals they made
into a movie as well. The legend is that the
victors of the Texas Texaan and and football game got
free run at the old Chicken Coop. So I'm gonna
go Texas and Texas A and.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
M all right, that's a good one. That's actually could
have been my first pick. This one also could have
been my first pick. They're eight miles apart. College basketball again,
Duke North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I love I love Dunk, I love Dunk.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
But according to Sam, when the Noles and Gators get
together on the hard work.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, missed a couple of the ones. What you got there,
jays dupe.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
This one will forever be called the mel Tucker verse.
Sharone more bull.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Inappropriate, the inappropriate relationship.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
Ball is that the battle for Paul Bunyan.
Speaker 8 (36:46):
No, Paul Onion is the axe and Wisconsin the axe.
There's the axes Wisconsin, Minnesota. Then there is a Paul
Bunyan status.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
Paul Bunyon is in that Michigan state.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
Michigan.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Really, I didn't know that. We'll look into it.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
A couple others that I know, Dan as near and
Dearer's heart. Holy war b yu utah, that's amazing, amazing.
Stanford Cal. Nobody mentioned Stanford Cal. Did anyone mentioned Stanford Call?
Speaker 6 (37:12):
No?
Speaker 8 (37:12):
I don't think so. Stanford Cal. Big game, right, We
missed Civil War. We missed apple cup, Apple cup, apple cup.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Trader. That's game Time
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