September 26, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug recaps the Thursday Night football game between the Cardinals and Seahawks as Dan Beyer wonders out loud if Marvin Harrison's successful fourth quarter could solve his issues. Doug criticizes Kirk Herbstreit after his take on college scheduling. Doug weighs in on the comments made by Shedeur Sanders about being ready to play now. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "I GOT DIBBS!".
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the boom X Boom. I thought last night's game had
a little bit of everything, a little bit of everything.
It had some pregame discussion over a player who wasn't playing,
But I think many of us, myself included, believe believe
that up until recently, Russell Wilson was a Hall of
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Famer and now some are saying he is not. That
one's that's interesting for me. But so you had some
really good pre game chatter, you had some uniform chatter.
I personally liked the Cardinals. I like the Cardinals jerseys
and helmets. Part of it is I think they're home
homets are normally just terrible, right, just too much white
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on them, and it feels like they need a striperson.
It feels like they need someone else. Last night they
did not because the Cardinal logo was different but also
much bigger, and it's with the new helmets so it
looks a little cooler. But what again, you have the
weird uniform stuff where they're wearing alternative, alternative jerseys and
the Seahawks are not. It's like, wait, did the Seahawks
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not get the memo is only when you're in a
home there's a bunch you get to. Then you had
you know, Sam Donald, who is a former number three
overall pick. He's been well traveled, how well he would
he perform? Then of course you have Kyler Murray, who
it felt like the fans were done with in the
first half, and then all of a sudden they were
hopped on board. With the Lake comeback, you had a
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very average to below average in terms of the actual
performance of the game, but it led to an unbelievable comeback.
Plus you have Marvin Harrison Junior who continues to struggle
just catching the football but did have a big catch
as part of the comeback. There's a lot and then
at the end of the game you have a comeback,
a tie game. Should you have gone for two if
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you're Arizona. If you don't go for two, well then
you know you got to figure out kickoff, a new
kickoff rule which so many people still don't know. We
still don't know if the kicker knew you had to
have it in the air, pass the twenty yard line.
Then Seattle gets the ball at the forty Jackson Smith
and Jigba catches a ball and looks like for some
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reason they were winding the club and then upon further review,
they didn't wind the clock. Then it felt like Seattle,
oh my gosh, are they going to throw the footall
where they could turn it over. No, They're going to
hand it off and play for a sixty yard field goal,
and ends up all working out for there was a
lot in that game, a lot. I'll give you my
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thoughts on one second Buyer. You had some thoughts I
know on Marvin Harrison Junior, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, I just think it's such an interesting storyline for Doug.
We were sitting here twenty four hours ago. I said,
if the Cardinals lose, the storyline is going to be
Kyler Murray. You countered, I think Sam, you thought Sam
Donald is still the jury is still out on Donald,
especially when games matter. I think all of those are fair.
And what we thought was going to be the headline,
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and here in a game that you said had everything
both good and bad, seemingly last night that the thing
that stands out in the thing that I felt that
most people were talking about on social media was what
was going on with Marvin Harrison and some of the
things that were happening last night happened in their game
against the forty nine Ers last week. But again, Bears,
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Cowboys seen on most TVs throughout the country, Chargers and
Broncos were also playing at that time, So the Niners
Cardinals game was only shown to a very select portion
of this country to see that this is actually happening
the second time. But now everybody got their taste of it.
And now I wonder because of the second half and
what Marvin Harrison really did in the fourth quarter with
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the touchdown catch that he had, he had another catch
on the sidelines for them, is he passed this? Was
he trying to do too much early in this game
because of what happened last week. I think the whole
thing is is unique. I know, Doug, that you've talked
about like your free throw shooting when you were playing
in college. I don't know if like this is apropos
to that of Marvin Harrison just being in his head.
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But the lasting image from last night that I think
everybody took was him kneeing in the end zone after
that touchdown and just being there a lot longer than
we anticipated.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, the ball is my friend. The ball is my friend.
And it also interesting is within one game, it did
feel in the first half like Cardinals fans were collectively
rolling their eyes at at Kyler Murray. Did it not? Yeah,
just at times I just felt like such a dud.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I felt that Harrison, especially on the interception that was
over the middle, that actually both interceptions were awful and
they were both probably Marvin Harrison's fault definitely the one
where he bobbled. But I thought that I thought the
sense was not that Kyler Murray was great, and I
think that there is a conversation about Kyler Murray another time.
But I thought it was just more about I got
the sense it was about what is wrong with Marvin Harrison.
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It was the fourth overall pick, you know, a year
and a half ago.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, I also think it's people can't figure out here's
what Marvin Harrison benefits from. His dad caught everything and
he was a great player at Ohio State. And so
we're all stunned at at all of a sudden, the
drop off, right, and the drops that's the reality too.
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We're just all stunned by it. I'm not stunned by
because you point out free throws, and I understand that
somebody can sit there and look at my career at
college free throw percentage, go you're an awful free throws.
You're like, yeah, okay, when I was in high school,
I just hold the ball, let them follow me, go
to the free throw line, win the game. Like your
mind is that powerful. So yeah, I just I actually
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completely get it. And then you know, you think you're
over it, and I'm sure today he probably thinks he's
over it. But the fact is the next time the
ball is in the air in a game, he's going
to have all the same feelings come up.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, what a what a story that is. And I
didn't play athletics nearly to the level that you did,
and definitely not to the level that Marvin Harrison Junior did.
But just in playing golf, sometimes you'll be playing around
and it's just you put the club in your hand
and for three holes you have no idea what to
do with it, and then by the back nine you're like, Okay,
this is what it is. And I felt that early
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on that Harrison was pressing because of what happened. Hector
Cardinals threw him a pass on like the first play
of the game, just a little dump off into the
flat just do, I think, try to get his confidence
and to get him going into the game. And that
didn't work. But does now that he has the success
of this touchdown and these catches, does he move on
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from it? Because I've seen people do it, as I said,
I did it on the very low level of the
athletics that I play. Where yeah, sometimes the ball's just
not rolling or the putter's not there. You change something
and all of a sudden something clicks. Did that click
for Marvin Harrison last night? But it's such a it's
such a bigger perspective as well, because I think we
all have had the thing that happened to Marvin Harrison
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Junior last night. His just happened to be seen by
millions and millions of people, and it was the only
game in town. I thought, I thought it was so intriguing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It's Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports trans Dan Byer
from Moretation. Stewart's our producer. Of course, I was Sam
on the Ones and Two's Likes Top In as well.
Here's Sam Donold talking about the game winning drive. It
was just all right, here we go.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I'm gonna, you know, get ready for two minute warm
up and and just treat it like practice. I think
that's at the end of the day, like when you
get in those two minute situations. We run through those
situations so much in practice, so you know, at the
end of the day, that's that's all I can do,
is just you know, me and me our guys go
out there and not not do too much and just
do whatever the play is called, and then if we
got to make an adjustment from there, we go from there.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Here's Mike McDonald, head coach of the Seahawks, on how
his team executed late in the game.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
For us, it was just like, all right, hey, look
we're on you know, we're identifying the two minute situation,
and Ad and the guys are talking to the guys
on the bench and they're ready to go to overtime.
They're talking about our overtime plan. It was just kind
of like, hey, what's what's next. Clinton called some great plays.
We had a great protection that in that series. You're
fortunate with the kick being you know, not in the
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landing zone. And then you know, Sam and Jacks were
just and just a great job overall. Brian did a
great job of managing the managing the clock and this
is this is how we roll.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I can't tell you how impressed I was with Jackson
Smith the jig but getting out of bounds without his
knee touching the ground, which stopped the clock and they
had to review that. Yeah, go ahead, Jase too. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I was just wondering if you guys remembered that Mike
McDonald was the head coach at Seattle because I keep forgetting,
I keep forgetting that he's he's the head coach at Seattle.
I keep keep forgetting.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, you know why. You know why you keep forgetting?
Because they're not in love with Russell Wilson anymore. Or
Pete Carroll. Uh, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're
on Fox Sports Radio. Guy, We're just we're just silly
with the effort of being silly. Okay, here's an honest question. Okay,
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do we think that at everybody on Arizona's team? Most importantly,
do we think that their kicker knew the rule? That's
that's the kicker, Chad Ryland. Because when Chad Ryland walked
over to the to the sideline, it didn't look like
he knew why the ball, why the why the why
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the penalty was called. Now again, I'm only reading Biden
language and his facial expression. I was watching in a
room full of people, so I'll admit if there was
something otherwise. But even when you listen to let's listen,
there's ginning his head coach, Jonathan Gannon after the game,
talking about the kick keep it.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
In play, keep it in play. You know, that's that's
kind of one of the things we talk about late
in the game there, with the amount of timeouts and
time and what they needed the line or trying to
burn off some time there. Chad played his ass off.
The game doesn't come down to one play. You know,
we didn't do enough collectively for sixty minutes to win
the game. It's good question, Gambo.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So again, I think they I think he didn't know
the rule. I think he didn't know the rule, and
I'll tell you why, because what Jonathan Gannon told him
was keep it in play, which is what he did,
but he failed to go like, hey, by the way,
remember the landing zone is after the twenty yard line.
(11:23):
He may have remembered some of it, but I just
I don't think there's any way in which he had.
I don't think he knew the rule.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think you're right, huh. I think you're right. I
think I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah. I mean he looked confused as to why there
was a penalty, and then they had to explain it
to him, which is I'm gonna give credit to somebody
who I've worked with I consider a friend a bit
of a mentor. Fran for Scilla is the former head
coach at Saint John's and Manhattan and New Mexico, and
of course he's a broadcaster with ESPN, and Fran talks
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about this all the time, that you got to have
somebody on your staff read the rule book every year
and all the new rules and all the new neonces
so ever, so somebody reads the rule book and knows
he's talking about obviously about basketball that he covers. The
same is true in football, Like this is one of
those Jonathan Gannon, I'm sure, said hey, keep it in play,
right thinking, And Jonathan Gannon probably knows the rules, but
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he's sitting there going like, well, keep it him. I
did keep it him playing like, no, dude, you got
to keep it past twenty yard line. That's no different
than was it the Bears kicker? Was it the Bears
kicker who kicked it in the end zone but didn't
kick it out of bounds?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, against the Vikings, right again, I.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Think that's another one who didn't realize, like, look, dude,
all you have to do, all you have to do
is kick the ball out of the end zone. They
cannot They can't beat us. They have six seconds. Can't
beat us if you kick it to where they can't
run it back. The only way you lose the game
is on a kick return for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, the Bears situation was trying to get past the
two minute warning, and so they kicked it deep. They
kicked it seven yards deep. But the Vikings are able
to return that and run the clock. Now, if you
would have kicked it out of the end zone, then
Ben Johnson and the Bears would have looked like the geniuses.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But he'd right, he didn't so he but what he
could have done was he could have kicked it out
of the sideline. Now you would have got the forty
yard line, but at least they still would have protected
the two minute warning. Yes, right, So that's where again
it's it's one of those that you feel like and
this is this is very much a coaching thing which
I've learned, is you very much have to sometimes one,
you have to teach everything and go through all these situations.
(13:37):
In two you got to make sure that you point
out the finer points, keep it in bounce. But remember
you got to get it past the twenty yard line,
you know, And then if you're the Bears, you got
to kick it out of bounce out of bounds, Okay,
not in the end zone, not for no return. You
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got to kick it out of about And if you
can't kick it out of a bunse kick it out
the sideline because we're trying to protect the two minute
warning because there was what was like two h two
at the time, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, right, And
if you kick it out of bounds, then after the
first play there's an automatic two minute warning, it's an
automatic time out. You still have the opportunity to get
the ball back with far greater time.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, And the five yards there doesn't matter in that
Vikings Bear scenario, but it really mattered last night because
it's a tie game and the Seahawks hit the ball
and Doug. The reason why I think that you're right
in that they didn't know the rule is because kicking
it short is worst case scenario. Kicking it out of
bounds is also worst case scenario. If you kicked it deep.
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Let's say he just kicked it and it happened to
go one yard into the end zone, then it's only
brought out to the thirty five. But you could you
could say to yourself, that's five yards. That's significant when
the Seahawks need a field goal to possibly win the game.
The miss there is long. The miss isn't short. Yes,
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that's the last thing that you want to do. The
miss is long. And that's why I don't think that
they knew the rule because of the miss being short
last night.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, yeah, okay, And had he known the rule as
soon as it hit, you would have seen a negative
reaction from him, right, he would have been like, ah,
I blew it. He didn't think he blew it. He
didn't think he blew it. He did not think he
below Like.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
What's the what is the bandwidth of a kickers week?
Other than just teeing off with the punter and kicking, Like,
don't you have so much time on your hands to
like memorize the rules if that's if that's your one
job to memorize exactly what you can and cannot do
on kickoffs, Like you're saying, four weeks in the guy
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who was oblivious to a rule.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, and he's in his third year, but yeah, but
the rules have changed again. He's I mean, this set
might sound weird. I'm sure he's never done that before.
My guess is he's never done before. Right that. You're
constantly when you're trying to keep it in bounds, you're
just trying to not kick it out of bounds. You know,
you're really your target points the five yard line and
then you know, or maybe the nine yard line. You're
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trying to get in there, you know, get it way
up in the air and that on that one, he
just joinked it and it was short, and I'm sure
there's a lot of game slippage to it.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think the phrase of Gannon saying in play is
the thing that could have thrown him off. And I'm
not giving him an excuse. Yes, yeah, if you kick
it into the end zone, is that is that in play?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Coach? Is that really in play?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But just so it doesn't go out of bounds makes
makes it feel like it's in play. I'm sorry, No,
I was just gonna say, And you have to put
some air under it because you've got the everybody lined
up not that far away. So it's not like we
could squibkick like we used to, right where it would
just go through the first line of guys there and
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make its way down the field. You can't do that anymore,
Like you at least have to kick it in the
air over these guys, so it has to have some
air on it.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
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Speaker 1 (17:07):
How good is this weekend in college football? Jason Sewartt,
can you ask that question more time?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
How good is this this weekend in college football?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You got to ask you a little bit more energy,
like you're actually asking a question.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Hey, Doug, Yeah, how good is this weekend in college football?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'll tell you how good it is? Kirk Krbstreet came
up with some bizarre take that it makes no sense
to have all these games on one weekend, like it
was planned out that that are week old on these
games are actually good. Now, I get Alabama Georgia. Maybe
that's a little bit early than the year for you, right,
This is her and I love Herbie, but take a
listen to this take.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
It's another example of why we need eventually a commissioner's office,
like the NFL has a commissioner's office, right, And there
are a lot of different layers to what that office
could do obviously in this nil and portal era and
the realignment era, I think the biggest thing that I
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think sometimes as a guy who eats and breethes college football,
there are some weeks in college football where it's just
there might be one good game, and there are other
weeks like this week. You could argue this is the
greatest weekend of the entire year. Starting Friday night there's
good games, and then from game day and then after
game day noon eastern all the way. If you're crazy
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like me, you'll watch BYU in Colorado at ten fifteen
they start, and that'll go to whatever one in the morning,
and you're thinking, man, why wouldn't we have somebody instead
of the Big ten in their own silo, the SEC
and their silo, the Big twelve and the ACC. Wouldn't
it be great if we had a Commissioner's office to
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just kind of like, let's spread some of these games out.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah. I don't know how to tell Herbie this, but
that is never going to happen, can't happen, won't happen,
and is among the most bizarre goy. I hate to
say this because Herbie's awesome. It's like a super uneducated
take it. It's a very much a fan take. I
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mean it's like Florida State Virginia. I'm super into the
game tonight, but had Florida State no one knew they
were gonna beat Alabama or nobody don know what to
expect from Florid State. Two years ago the unfeated. Last year,
they win two games. Now they're undefeated. We don't know
how good they are, so I mean, who would have
thought that's a good game?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I don't know if TCU is any good there. They
beat North Carolina, but everybody's beating North Carolina. They beat SMU,
But is SMU really good or was last year just
a creation of a schedule and a lot of money?
Arizona State won the Big twelve last year, but they've
already lost Mississippi State. Like, how are you gonna know
that that's gonna be a that's not a traditional, you know,
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powerhouse game. USC and Illinois. We're acting like that's a
big game. But why because because Illinois is ranked? Okay,
Illinois wins Western Illinois, Duke and Western Michigan. They played
one good team. Indiana beat them sixty three to ten. Like,
why are we considering that some game that we want
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to move and put around our schedule. Don't get me wrong,
there are good games out there. Lsu Ole miss is
big time. Problem is in the SEC kind of every
week we have some games Auburn A and m good
game Indiana Iowa. Did anybody think that would be a
big game? This rule in the year Tennessee, Mississippi State,
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I don't know. Penn State, Purdue, we I mean Penn State, Oregon,
we knew, but you know again, it's like Penn State, like, well,
they got to schedule some games, like okay, Well, there's
a logic and reason to why they play who they play.
Oregon has to come middle of the season. I think
they didn't want the West Coast teams coming in November
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when they have to deal with with snow. They want
to keep it to where they play their regional teams.
But you just there's too many moving parts to have
one guy or one group coordinate one hundred and thirty
Division one teams just doesn't work that way. It's hard
enough to get your own schedule, let alone your league schedule,
let alone a national schedule.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
Yes, Sami Doug, your point about you know, teams getting good,
becoming ranked, and then how the rankings shift every week.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
That's a great point.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
We don't know, you know, five weeks from now, we
might have another crazy weekend where a team you know,
works is undefeated, works its way from unranked to ranked,
and then we.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Got you know, all this cast.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
I kind of look at weekends like this as like
the first two days of the NCAA tournament, Like there's
just a lot going on and we can't spread them out.
We have to have them on Saturday. So we're gonna
play these games. It's going to be a smorgas board
of football to pay attention to. Unfortunately, they're not all
standalone games. We have to have them all going on
the same day, and I'll probably be watching from nine
am until two am. And that's life and I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Next week it's like we're making like Colorado by use
a big game West Virginia bi used next week.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yes, dam well yeah this is also does kirkurb Street
think that they're like sixty nine hours in a day?
I mean, like, how would how would you have a
schedule that would work out for the football fan that
kirkurb Street wants to watch all these games? I don't
know right, like that's there's just there's it's not possible.
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In fact, it's a little there's also a little tone
deafness to it in a way because the two criticisms
that we've had with scheduling games have come because of
big noon kickoff. People are mad that Texas Ohio State
was a big noon kickoff game and not under the
lights that's at noon Eastern time. So if you were
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to put a game at noon Eastern, everybody'd be mad
because they felt that games should be at night. And
then last week, well, Jason and I were camping out
during the overnight at O'Hare Airport on their comfortable chairs.
It was two o'clock in the morning and USC and
Michigan State were still playing football, which people were complaining
that the fans in East Lanting were up at three am.
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I even said it to Jason, I go, it's three
am at Michigan State right now and they're having to
stay up and watch this game. So there's not a
lot of wiggle room with this. And now, do you
want all of these top games to be moved, say
like a weekend before Ohio State plays Michigan where or
Alabama or Georgia would play a cupcake before their rivalry,
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specifically Alabama back in the day. You're gonna move a
tough game there. It's just to me, it's fantasy.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Talk, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's but like you're
talking about Kirk herb Street, right, he is. There's no
man more synonymous with college football over the past twenty
years than Kirk kurb Street. And it's it's a lot
like you have a government official who's totally normal, then
all of a sudden, they're like spitting out conspiracy theories.
(24:04):
You're like, dude, what happened to you? Have you been
on the internet too long? Right? Wait? You were super
normal and now you believe nothing and you've ever been
taught no matter how provable. It is, like, this is
Kirk kerb Street, who knows how on some level TV
schedules how it all works. You know that you can't
get all the games in at once, and and how
(24:27):
these big time coaches are like, look, we need to
space some games out, and what works for TV, what
doesn't work for TV? And now you're coming on and
you literally look like an internet troll, be like, hey,
if there's a commissioner, they'll spread the games out. You know,
you do know it's next week, right.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Kirk red River? Rov is it? No, It's not like
it's two weeks.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So no, No.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Next week is Florida State Miami, which is a really
big game. If Florida State beats Virginia. If they don't,
then it's let's make fun of Florida State or may
make fun of Alabama. We have no idea if that's
going to be a big game or not going to
be a big game. Next week Vandy Bama is next week.
That looks like a gigantic game. But what happens with
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Bama this week? And right now? Vandy's the surprise of
the league. Boise State Notre Dame is next week. Before
the year, you would have thought, well, that's a hell
of a game, two teams from the college football playoff
matching back up. But right now, do you do you
think that way? No, Texas Florida Florida stinks. That would
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have been probably the biggest game heading into the year.
Wisconsin Michigan not a big game after how Wisconsin played
against Alabama. Right then you get to the next week.
That's exactly what you're talking about it. That's Red River rivalry.
That's Bama, Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee, South Carolina, who people thought
was good against LSU, Ohio State, Illinois. Like, there's no
(25:54):
weekend where we don't have good Like what is he
even talking about? It's literally like, yeah, are we sure?
Have you seen some of these conspiracy theories that people think,
like all these stars have body doubles, you know, or
the president, Like that's not really the president. First it
was Biden, now there's Trump, Like these are really body doubles.
Like that movie Dave where Something's happened. I almost think
(26:15):
there's a body double for Kirk Kurbstreet.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It just you know, Yeah, when we go to our restaurant,
there's five things on the menu that I'd love. I'd
love to order all of them at one point. Guess
what you can't. You gotta pick one. Maybe if you
got a multiple TV setup, you gotta pick two. The
other thing with college football that I think is unique
to college football is everybody has their school, So I
(26:40):
don't have a multi TV setup at home. But tomorrow
Ohio State plays Washington at three point thirty Eastern time,
and that's going to be the game that I'm going
to watch the most of, if not all, of So
that also means that I miss a majority of LSU
and Ole Miss. Now, maybe Ohio State Washington is on
the lift of great games tomorrow, which I think it
(27:01):
should be, but it's also the fact that everybody's got
a favorite school. Doug, you'd want to see how Oklahoma
State would play if with without Gundhy being there, So
you're gonna watch that game. Sam's gonna watch Iowa against Indiana,
which again is one of the better games that we've got.
He's gonna miss probably Ohio State Washington and have a
(27:21):
tougher time flipping back and forth because it's on Peacock.
But there's like, there's also that portion of it, like
Kirk kirb Street is in the complete minority of college
football fans and how they consume college football Stug.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
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dou I'm gonna. I'm going to quote to you, but
steal your line and maybe I'll ask Dan Byer a question.
Dan is the number three quarterback generally made available to
the media.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I don't see it a lot. Don't see it a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I've never been a beat reporter. I've never I've done
NFL games. I've talked to NFL people. I don't know
the protocol. I don't know the protocol, but it does
seem odd that the Browns would have open media and hey,
there's Shador. Sanders ask him a question that they asked
Shador if he felt like he was ready to play
(28:36):
after sitting for a couple of weeks. Here's what here's
his answer.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
He had a great quoe where he says, you don't
learn anything I've never said on the bench and said.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I learned a lot today.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
You agree with him on that?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
What are you talking?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Said?
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Respective?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So you know that's not there's not nothing. You know,
I'm pleased to answer.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You know that's nothing.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
I can't answer, not answered, but I know for sure
I'm not uh.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I know if you see the quarterback player in the
league right now, I know I know I'm capable of
doing better than that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
So Shador Sanders just pulled at Lebron James. Only Lebron
was talking about his son, Chador was talking about himself.
Let's dial back a couple of years ago where Lebron
James on I felt like a random Sunday tweeted out
that that Bronni was better than half the dudes in
the league. Was that? Was that the Was that the
exact quote, Dan Byer? Was it half the guys or
(29:30):
was it some of these guys.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'm taking a look here. Uh it's uh, if you
see she said, if you see the quarterback playing the
league right now, I know I'm capable of better of
oh of Bronni. Oh, I'm sorry. I was listening to
Kevin Stefanski cut because he responded to Shador Sanders, I
don't know the Bronni cut.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Okay, this is Bronni's tweet. This is Lebron's tweet. Man,
Bronni definitely better than some of these cats I've been
watching on League past today. Crap, lightweight, hilarious for emoji
laughing faces.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Right, So he didn't say half. He said he's he's
better than some of these guys. And that was when
Bronni was in college at USC, coming off the bench
for one of the worst teams in the Pac twelve
that year, and of course he was coming back from
uh some sort of cardiac arrest. Do we have the
Stefanski sound? Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
No, the audio isn't good. I was listening to it again.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I understand there are people and and the people that
are like the Shador Sanders flag waivers everybody. I most
of those people have it's died down because really, Dion
did them no good when he admitted that he didn't
want him to play for the Ravens. And who is
the other team that had the quarterback that he said
he didn't want to play for and they called him
I don't know, but the Ravens were the big one, right,
(30:45):
You're like, wait, what you don't want him to play?
You don't want to be on the Ravens Like kind
of seems like a pretty good place to learn. Then
you hear Shador's cut, Then you watch Shador how he
handles himself. I understand that Shador Sanders may represent something
to you that he doesn't to me. I think he
was just a really good college player and we got
(31:08):
to figure out and the Browns or whoever has him
has to figure out if he can be an NFL
starting quarterback or if he's an NFL backup. I don't
think he's a career backup because he doesn't feel like
he wants to be a backup. Because if you're invested
in the backup role, then the only possible answer, and
the first thing is you shouldn't be interviewed. The second
thing is the only possible answer should be Hey, if
(31:31):
I sit there for I'm ready to play. It doesn't matter.
My job is to get Joe Flacco ready, to make
sure he has every answer to every question that he's
going to see. And my job, if I'm the scout
team quarterback, is to get that defense ready. That's my
job on the week, Do I watch? Yeah? I mean
I have so much to learn, right, And it wasn't
(31:51):
a I don't feel like it was an unfair question
to use a quote and I don't know who he
was quoting that said I didn't learn anything when I
was sitting on the bench. When Shador can correct him,
he's like, well, I've been sent on the bench and
I've learned a ton. But much like we criticized Russell Wilson,
for not being a human being. I would say the
same thing for Shador Sanders. Yeah, Tom Buyer, I.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Was just gonna say. Kevin Stefanski did say when he
asked about it, said they prepare all of their players
to get ready to play, and it's something that they
take pride in, something that they do every minute is
to get every player ready to play. So all of
their players are ready to play.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And I'm not going to sit here and tell you
it's wrong for Shador to have confidence, nor it's wrong
that Sure thinks he can play. Every guy who plays
quarterback in the league believes if you give me what
some other guy has, right, you give me what they
got in Minnesota with that coach, that running game. When
(32:49):
when Aaron Jones is healthy, that those wide receivers like
I'd be great. So what Shador Sanders is saying is
is not inaccurate to him and how he feels. But
he just lacks any sort of ability to read the room.
That's it. That's what that's what, that's what it lacks
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Let's get to Dan Byer for a game.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
All right, Doug, the game today is I got DIBs.
All right? First up for DIBs. NFL team on upset
alert in week four. NFL team on upset alert in
week four. The bidding is now open.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I got dips because a week ago I called Cleveland.
I'm gonna leave the I'm gonna say credit to Doug
for doing that when there wasn't a horrible injury in
the story. Right after, I'm gonna say Titans Titans. I
(35:12):
think the Texans are a really bad team and they're
gonna sleep on the Titans and cam Ward will get
his first win in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So the Texans should be on upset alert.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, Callahan out of parts there. He's not calling plays anymore, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Callahan, that's true.
Speaker 9 (35:27):
I got dibbs. Jaguars at Niners San Francisco about a
three and a half point favorite. Those rickety Niners Jags
look better than last year. Upset alert.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I'm gonna be the guy. Packer's gotta be an upset alert, right,
that would be something. No, there's no reason to think
that they shouldn't beat the Cowboys. Cowboys have shown the
building to score. I know. No, CD lamb doesn't make
make any sense. No, Michael Parsons, he's playing with bike
doesn't make any sense. But stranger things have happened. They
just lost to the Browns last week.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm putting the Ravens on upset all art short week
going to Kansas City Chiefs A home dog plus two
and a half good one.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Chiefs on dog that that sounds like something to invest in,
doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yes, best college football game of the weekend open forbidding.
I got DIBs on Oregon Penn State because it's actually
one of my favorite random Rose Bowls and now they're
conference foes nineteen ninety five Rose Bull.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I got DIBs on Auburn A and M. I mean, obviously,
I mean the one that's going to get the most
attention is Bama Georgia, but Auburn area would be mine,
would be mine just because I think Auburn's better than
the record. And then I've never buyered an A and
m A and M. She lost a Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I got DIBs on USC Illinois. As someone who grew
up on the West coast, it's going to be fun
to watch the USC Trojans on the field at nine am,
nine am Pacific time.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
I got DIBs on you guessed it, number eleven Indiana
at Iowa.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Let's go, all right, I find the guys, best cups,
best cups now open forbidding. Stanley the drink or the
hockey trophy.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Oh, I got both. Well, I have the drink, but
I'm gonna go hockey trouphy.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Iowa. Sammed it all right, sad, yeah, give me, give
me the Dixie cup, nice little, nice little small paper,
you know, throw it away, rinse out your mouth and mouthwash.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
I got yeah, yeah, and you love your bing beer pong.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
I got solo cups though, Oh okay, I got DIBs
on the catcher or goalie cup to protect the the goods.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Oh, that's game time, and that is game time, okay.
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the boom X Boom. I thought last night's game had
a little bit of everything, a little bit of everything.
It had some pregame discussion over a player who wasn't playing,
But I think many of us, myself included, believe believe
that up until recently, Russell Wilson was a Hall of
(01:10):
Famer and now some are saying he is not. That
one's that's interesting for me. But so you had some
really good pre game chatter, you had some uniform chatter.
I personally liked the Cardinals. I like the Cardinals jerseys
and helmets. Part of it is I think they're home
homets are normally just terrible, right, just too much white
(01:33):
on them, and it feels like they need a striperson.
It feels like they need someone else. Last night they
did not because the Cardinal logo was different but also
much bigger, and it's with the new helmets so it
looks a little cooler. But what again, you have the
weird uniform stuff where they're wearing alternative, alternative jerseys and
the Seahawks are not. It's like, wait, did the Seahawks
(01:55):
not get the memo is only when you're in a
home there's a bunch you get to. Then you had
you know, Sam Donald, who is a former number three
overall pick. He's been well traveled, how well he would
he perform? Then of course you have Kyler Murray, who
it felt like the fans were done with in the
first half, and then all of a sudden they were
hopped on board. With the Lake comeback, you had a
(02:16):
very average to below average in terms of the actual
performance of the game, but it led to an unbelievable comeback.
Plus you have Marvin Harrison Junior who continues to struggle
just catching the football but did have a big catch
as part of the comeback. There's a lot and then
at the end of the game you have a comeback,
a tie game. Should you have gone for two if
(02:38):
you're Arizona. If you don't go for two, well then
you know you got to figure out kickoff, a new
kickoff rule which so many people still don't know. We
still don't know if the kicker knew you had to
have it in the air, pass the twenty yard line.
Then Seattle gets the ball at the forty Jackson Smith
and Jigba catches a ball and looks like for some
(02:58):
reason they were winding the club and then upon further review,
they didn't wind the clock. Then it felt like Seattle,
oh my gosh, are they going to throw the footall
where they could turn it over. No, They're going to
hand it off and play for a sixty yard field goal,
and ends up all working out for there was a
lot in that game, a lot. I'll give you my
(03:19):
thoughts on one second Buyer. You had some thoughts I
know on Marvin Harrison Junior, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, I just think it's such an interesting storyline for Doug.
We were sitting here twenty four hours ago. I said,
if the Cardinals lose, the storyline is going to be
Kyler Murray. You countered, I think Sam, you thought Sam
Donald is still the jury is still out on Donald,
especially when games matter. I think all of those are fair.
And what we thought was going to be the headline,
(03:46):
and here in a game that you said had everything
both good and bad, seemingly last night that the thing
that stands out in the thing that I felt that
most people were talking about on social media was what
was going on with Marvin Harrison and some of the
things that were happening last night happened in their game
against the forty nine Ers last week. But again, Bears,
(04:06):
Cowboys seen on most TVs throughout the country, Chargers and
Broncos were also playing at that time, So the Niners
Cardinals game was only shown to a very select portion
of this country to see that this is actually happening
the second time. But now everybody got their taste of it.
And now I wonder because of the second half and
what Marvin Harrison really did in the fourth quarter with
(04:28):
the touchdown catch that he had, he had another catch
on the sidelines for them, is he passed this? Was
he trying to do too much early in this game
because of what happened last week. I think the whole
thing is is unique. I know, Doug, that you've talked
about like your free throw shooting when you were playing
in college. I don't know if like this is apropos
to that of Marvin Harrison just being in his head.
(04:51):
But the lasting image from last night that I think
everybody took was him kneeing in the end zone after
that touchdown and just being there a lot longer than
we anticipated.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, the ball is my friend. The ball is my friend.
And it also interesting is within one game, it did
feel in the first half like Cardinals fans were collectively
rolling their eyes at at Kyler Murray. Did it not? Yeah,
just at times I just felt like such a dud.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I felt that Harrison, especially on the interception that was
over the middle, that actually both interceptions were awful and
they were both probably Marvin Harrison's fault definitely the one
where he bobbled. But I thought that I thought the
sense was not that Kyler Murray was great, and I
think that there is a conversation about Kyler Murray another time.
But I thought it was just more about I got
the sense it was about what is wrong with Marvin Harrison.
(05:44):
It was the fourth overall pick, you know, a year
and a half ago.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, I also think it's people can't figure out here's
what Marvin Harrison benefits from. His dad caught everything and
he was a great player at Ohio State. And so
we're all stunned at at all of a sudden, the
drop off, right, and the drops that's the reality too.
(06:08):
We're just all stunned by it. I'm not stunned by
because you point out free throws, and I understand that
somebody can sit there and look at my career at
college free throw percentage, go you're an awful free throws.
You're like, yeah, okay, when I was in high school,
I just hold the ball, let them follow me, go
to the free throw line, win the game. Like your
mind is that powerful. So yeah, I just I actually
(06:31):
completely get it. And then you know, you think you're
over it, and I'm sure today he probably thinks he's
over it. But the fact is the next time the
ball is in the air in a game, he's going
to have all the same feelings come up.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, what a what a story that is. And I
didn't play athletics nearly to the level that you did,
and definitely not to the level that Marvin Harrison Junior did.
But just in playing golf, sometimes you'll be playing around
and it's just you put the club in your hand
and for three holes you have no idea what to
do with it, and then by the back nine you're like, Okay,
this is what it is. And I felt that early
(07:04):
on that Harrison was pressing because of what happened. Hector
Cardinals threw him a pass on like the first play
of the game, just a little dump off into the
flat just do, I think, try to get his confidence
and to get him going into the game. And that
didn't work. But does now that he has the success
of this touchdown and these catches, does he move on
(07:24):
from it? Because I've seen people do it, as I said,
I did it on the very low level of the
athletics that I play. Where yeah, sometimes the ball's just
not rolling or the putter's not there. You change something
and all of a sudden something clicks. Did that click
for Marvin Harrison last night? But it's such a it's
such a bigger perspective as well, because I think we
all have had the thing that happened to Marvin Harrison
(07:46):
Junior last night. His just happened to be seen by
millions and millions of people, and it was the only
game in town. I thought, I thought it was so intriguing.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It's Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports trans Dan Byer
from Moretation. Stewart's our producer. Of course, I was Sam
on the Ones and Two's Likes Top In as well.
Here's Sam Donold talking about the game winning drive. It
was just all right, here we go.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I'm gonna, you know, get ready for two minute warm
up and and just treat it like practice. I think
that's at the end of the day, like when you
get in those two minute situations. We run through those
situations so much in practice, so you know, at the
end of the day, that's that's all I can do,
is just you know, me and me our guys go
out there and not not do too much and just
do whatever the play is called, and then if we
got to make an adjustment from there, we go from there.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Here's Mike McDonald, head coach of the Seahawks, on how
his team executed late in the game.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
For us, it was just like, all right, hey, look
we're on you know, we're identifying the two minute situation,
and Ad and the guys are talking to the guys
on the bench and they're ready to go to overtime.
They're talking about our overtime plan. It was just kind
of like, hey, what's what's next. Clinton called some great plays.
We had a great protection that in that series. You're
fortunate with the kick being you know, not in the
(08:56):
landing zone. And then you know, Sam and Jacks were
just and just a great job overall. Brian did a
great job of managing the managing the clock and this
is this is how we roll.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I can't tell you how impressed I was with Jackson
Smith the jig but getting out of bounds without his
knee touching the ground, which stopped the clock and they
had to review that. Yeah, go ahead, Jase too. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I was just wondering if you guys remembered that Mike
McDonald was the head coach at Seattle because I keep forgetting,
I keep forgetting that he's he's the head coach at Seattle.
I keep keep forgetting.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, you know why. You know why you keep forgetting?
Because they're not in love with Russell Wilson anymore. Or
Pete Carroll. Uh, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're
on Fox Sports Radio. Guy, We're just we're just silly
with the effort of being silly. Okay, here's an honest question. Okay,
(09:58):
do we think that at everybody on Arizona's team? Most importantly,
do we think that their kicker knew the rule? That's
that's the kicker, Chad Ryland. Because when Chad Ryland walked
over to the to the sideline, it didn't look like
he knew why the ball, why the why the why
(10:21):
the penalty was called. Now again, I'm only reading Biden
language and his facial expression. I was watching in a
room full of people, so I'll admit if there was
something otherwise. But even when you listen to let's listen,
there's ginning his head coach, Jonathan Gannon after the game,
talking about the kick keep it.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
In play, keep it in play. You know, that's that's
kind of one of the things we talk about late
in the game there, with the amount of timeouts and
time and what they needed the line or trying to
burn off some time there. Chad played his ass off.
The game doesn't come down to one play. You know,
we didn't do enough collectively for sixty minutes to win
the game. It's good question, Gambo.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So again, I think they I think he didn't know
the rule. I think he didn't know the rule, and
I'll tell you why, because what Jonathan Gannon told him
was keep it in play, which is what he did,
but he failed to go like, hey, by the way,
remember the landing zone is after the twenty yard line.
(11:23):
He may have remembered some of it, but I just
I don't think there's any way in which he had.
I don't think he knew the rule.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think you're right, huh. I think you're right. I
think I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah. I mean he looked confused as to why there
was a penalty, and then they had to explain it
to him, which is I'm gonna give credit to somebody
who I've worked with I consider a friend a bit
of a mentor. Fran for Scilla is the former head
coach at Saint John's and Manhattan and New Mexico, and
of course he's a broadcaster with ESPN, and Fran talks
(12:01):
about this all the time, that you got to have
somebody on your staff read the rule book every year
and all the new rules and all the new neonces
so ever, so somebody reads the rule book and knows
he's talking about obviously about basketball that he covers. The
same is true in football, Like this is one of
those Jonathan Gannon, I'm sure, said hey, keep it in play,
right thinking, And Jonathan Gannon probably knows the rules, but
(12:21):
he's sitting there going like, well, keep it him. I
did keep it him playing like, no, dude, you got
to keep it past twenty yard line. That's no different
than was it the Bears kicker? Was it the Bears
kicker who kicked it in the end zone but didn't
kick it out of bounds?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, against the Vikings, right again, I.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Think that's another one who didn't realize, like, look, dude,
all you have to do, all you have to do
is kick the ball out of the end zone. They
cannot They can't beat us. They have six seconds. Can't
beat us if you kick it to where they can't
run it back. The only way you lose the game
is on a kick return for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, the Bears situation was trying to get past the
two minute warning, and so they kicked it deep. They
kicked it seven yards deep. But the Vikings are able
to return that and run the clock. Now, if you
would have kicked it out of the end zone, then
Ben Johnson and the Bears would have looked like the geniuses.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But he'd right, he didn't so he but what he
could have done was he could have kicked it out
of the sideline. Now you would have got the forty
yard line, but at least they still would have protected
the two minute warning. Yes, right, So that's where again
it's it's one of those that you feel like and
this is this is very much a coaching thing which
I've learned, is you very much have to sometimes one,
you have to teach everything and go through all these situations.
(13:37):
In two you got to make sure that you point
out the finer points, keep it in bounce. But remember
you got to get it past the twenty yard line,
you know, And then if you're the Bears, you got
to kick it out of bounce out of bounds, Okay,
not in the end zone, not for no return. You
(13:57):
got to kick it out of about And if you
can't kick it out of a bunse kick it out
the sideline because we're trying to protect the two minute
warning because there was what was like two h two
at the time, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, right, And
if you kick it out of bounds, then after the
first play there's an automatic two minute warning, it's an
automatic time out. You still have the opportunity to get
the ball back with far greater time.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, And the five yards there doesn't matter in that
Vikings Bear scenario, but it really mattered last night because
it's a tie game and the Seahawks hit the ball
and Doug. The reason why I think that you're right
in that they didn't know the rule is because kicking
it short is worst case scenario. Kicking it out of
bounds is also worst case scenario. If you kicked it deep.
(14:35):
Let's say he just kicked it and it happened to
go one yard into the end zone, then it's only
brought out to the thirty five. But you could you
could say to yourself, that's five yards. That's significant when
the Seahawks need a field goal to possibly win the game.
The miss there is long. The miss isn't short. Yes,
(14:56):
that's the last thing that you want to do. The
miss is long. And that's why I don't think that
they knew the rule because of the miss being short
last night.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, yeah, okay, And had he known the rule as
soon as it hit, you would have seen a negative
reaction from him, right, he would have been like, ah,
I blew it. He didn't think he blew it. He
didn't think he blew it. He did not think he
below Like.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
What's the what is the bandwidth of a kickers week?
Other than just teeing off with the punter and kicking, Like,
don't you have so much time on your hands to
like memorize the rules if that's if that's your one
job to memorize exactly what you can and cannot do
on kickoffs, Like you're saying, four weeks in the guy
(15:41):
who was oblivious to a rule.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, and he's in his third year, but yeah, but
the rules have changed again. He's I mean, this set
might sound weird. I'm sure he's never done that before.
My guess is he's never done before. Right that. You're
constantly when you're trying to keep it in bounds, you're
just trying to not kick it out of bounds. You know,
you're really your target points the five yard line and
then you know, or maybe the nine yard line. You're
(16:03):
trying to get in there, you know, get it way
up in the air and that on that one, he
just joinked it and it was short, and I'm sure
there's a lot of game slippage to it.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I think the phrase of Gannon saying in play is
the thing that could have thrown him off. And I'm
not giving him an excuse. Yes, yeah, if you kick
it into the end zone, is that is that in play?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Coach? Is that really in play?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But just so it doesn't go out of bounds makes
makes it feel like it's in play. I'm sorry, No,
I was just gonna say, And you have to put
some air under it because you've got the everybody lined
up not that far away. So it's not like we
could squibkick like we used to, right where it would
just go through the first line of guys there and
(16:49):
make its way down the field. You can't do that anymore,
Like you at least have to kick it in the
air over these guys, so it has to have some
air on it.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
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Speaker 1 (17:07):
How good is this weekend in college football? Jason Sewartt,
can you ask that question more time?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
How good is this this weekend in college football?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You got to ask you a little bit more energy,
like you're actually asking a question.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Hey, Doug, Yeah, how good is this weekend in college football?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I'll tell you how good it is? Kirk Krbstreet came
up with some bizarre take that it makes no sense
to have all these games on one weekend, like it
was planned out that that are week old on these
games are actually good. Now, I get Alabama Georgia. Maybe
that's a little bit early than the year for you, right,
This is her and I love Herbie, but take a
listen to this take.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
It's another example of why we need eventually a commissioner's office,
like the NFL has a commissioner's office, right, And there
are a lot of different layers to what that office
could do obviously in this nil and portal era and
the realignment era, I think the biggest thing that I
(18:07):
think sometimes as a guy who eats and breethes college football,
there are some weeks in college football where it's just
there might be one good game, and there are other
weeks like this week. You could argue this is the
greatest weekend of the entire year. Starting Friday night there's
good games, and then from game day and then after
game day noon eastern all the way. If you're crazy
(18:29):
like me, you'll watch BYU in Colorado at ten fifteen
they start, and that'll go to whatever one in the morning,
and you're thinking, man, why wouldn't we have somebody instead
of the Big ten in their own silo, the SEC
and their silo, the Big twelve and the ACC. Wouldn't
it be great if we had a Commissioner's office to
(18:50):
just kind of like, let's spread some of these games out.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah. I don't know how to tell Herbie this, but
that is never going to happen, can't happen, won't happen,
and is among the most bizarre goy. I hate to
say this because Herbie's awesome. It's like a super uneducated
take it. It's a very much a fan take. I
(19:16):
mean it's like Florida State Virginia. I'm super into the
game tonight, but had Florida State no one knew they
were gonna beat Alabama or nobody don know what to
expect from Florid State. Two years ago the unfeated. Last year,
they win two games. Now they're undefeated. We don't know
how good they are, so I mean, who would have
thought that's a good game?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
I don't know if TCU is any good there. They
beat North Carolina, but everybody's beating North Carolina. They beat SMU,
But is SMU really good or was last year just
a creation of a schedule and a lot of money?
Arizona State won the Big twelve last year, but they've
already lost Mississippi State. Like, how are you gonna know
that that's gonna be a that's not a traditional, you know,
(19:58):
powerhouse game. USC and Illinois. We're acting like that's a
big game. But why because because Illinois is ranked? Okay,
Illinois wins Western Illinois, Duke and Western Michigan. They played
one good team. Indiana beat them sixty three to ten. Like,
why are we considering that some game that we want
(20:18):
to move and put around our schedule. Don't get me wrong,
there are good games out there. Lsu Ole miss is
big time. Problem is in the SEC kind of every
week we have some games Auburn A and m good
game Indiana Iowa. Did anybody think that would be a
big game? This rule in the year Tennessee, Mississippi State,
(20:41):
I don't know. Penn State, Purdue, we I mean Penn State, Oregon,
we knew, but you know again, it's like Penn State, like, well,
they got to schedule some games, like okay, Well, there's
a logic and reason to why they play who they play.
Oregon has to come middle of the season. I think
they didn't want the West Coast teams coming in November
(21:01):
when they have to deal with with snow. They want
to keep it to where they play their regional teams.
But you just there's too many moving parts to have
one guy or one group coordinate one hundred and thirty
Division one teams just doesn't work that way. It's hard
enough to get your own schedule, let alone your league schedule,
let alone a national schedule.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
Yes, Sami Doug, your point about you know, teams getting good,
becoming ranked, and then how the rankings shift every week.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
That's a great point.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
We don't know, you know, five weeks from now, we
might have another crazy weekend where a team you know,
works is undefeated, works its way from unranked to ranked,
and then we.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Got you know, all this cast.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
I kind of look at weekends like this as like
the first two days of the NCAA tournament, Like there's
just a lot going on and we can't spread them out.
We have to have them on Saturday. So we're gonna
play these games. It's going to be a smorgas board
of football to pay attention to. Unfortunately, they're not all
standalone games. We have to have them all going on
the same day, and I'll probably be watching from nine
am until two am. And that's life and I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Next week it's like we're making like Colorado by use
a big game West Virginia bi used next week.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yes, dam well yeah this is also does kirkurb Street
think that they're like sixty nine hours in a day?
I mean, like, how would how would you have a
schedule that would work out for the football fan that
kirkurb Street wants to watch all these games? I don't
know right, like that's there's just there's it's not possible.
(22:32):
In fact, it's a little there's also a little tone
deafness to it in a way because the two criticisms
that we've had with scheduling games have come because of
big noon kickoff. People are mad that Texas Ohio State
was a big noon kickoff game and not under the
lights that's at noon Eastern time. So if you were
(22:55):
to put a game at noon Eastern, everybody'd be mad
because they felt that games should be at night. And
then last week, well, Jason and I were camping out
during the overnight at O'Hare Airport on their comfortable chairs.
It was two o'clock in the morning and USC and
Michigan State were still playing football, which people were complaining
that the fans in East Lanting were up at three am.
(23:15):
I even said it to Jason, I go, it's three
am at Michigan State right now and they're having to
stay up and watch this game. So there's not a
lot of wiggle room with this. And now, do you
want all of these top games to be moved, say
like a weekend before Ohio State plays Michigan where or
Alabama or Georgia would play a cupcake before their rivalry,
(23:36):
specifically Alabama back in the day. You're gonna move a
tough game there. It's just to me, it's fantasy.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Talk, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's but like you're
talking about Kirk herb Street, right, he is. There's no
man more synonymous with college football over the past twenty
years than Kirk kurb Street. And it's it's a lot
like you have a government official who's totally normal, then
all of a sudden, they're like spitting out conspiracy theories.
(24:04):
You're like, dude, what happened to you? Have you been
on the internet too long? Right? Wait? You were super
normal and now you believe nothing and you've ever been
taught no matter how provable. It is, like, this is
Kirk kerb Street, who knows how on some level TV
schedules how it all works. You know that you can't
get all the games in at once, and and how
(24:27):
these big time coaches are like, look, we need to
space some games out, and what works for TV, what
doesn't work for TV? And now you're coming on and
you literally look like an internet troll, be like, hey,
if there's a commissioner, they'll spread the games out. You know,
you do know it's next week, right.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Kirk red River? Rov is it? No, It's not like
it's two weeks.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So no, No.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Next week is Florida State Miami, which is a really
big game. If Florida State beats Virginia. If they don't,
then it's let's make fun of Florida State or may
make fun of Alabama. We have no idea if that's
going to be a big game or not going to
be a big game. Next week Vandy Bama is next week.
That looks like a gigantic game. But what happens with
(25:10):
Bama this week? And right now? Vandy's the surprise of
the league. Boise State Notre Dame is next week. Before
the year, you would have thought, well, that's a hell
of a game, two teams from the college football playoff
matching back up. But right now, do you do you
think that way? No, Texas Florida Florida stinks. That would
(25:32):
have been probably the biggest game heading into the year.
Wisconsin Michigan not a big game after how Wisconsin played
against Alabama. Right then you get to the next week.
That's exactly what you're talking about it. That's Red River rivalry.
That's Bama, Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee, South Carolina, who people thought
was good against LSU, Ohio State, Illinois. Like, there's no
(25:54):
weekend where we don't have good Like what is he
even talking about? It's literally like, yeah, are we sure?
Have you seen some of these conspiracy theories that people think,
like all these stars have body doubles, you know, or
the president, Like that's not really the president. First it
was Biden, now there's Trump, Like these are really body doubles.
Like that movie Dave where Something's happened. I almost think
(26:15):
there's a body double for Kirk Kurbstreet.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It just you know, Yeah, when we go to our restaurant,
there's five things on the menu that I'd love. I'd
love to order all of them at one point. Guess
what you can't. You gotta pick one. Maybe if you
got a multiple TV setup, you gotta pick two. The
other thing with college football that I think is unique
to college football is everybody has their school, So I
(26:40):
don't have a multi TV setup at home. But tomorrow
Ohio State plays Washington at three point thirty Eastern time,
and that's going to be the game that I'm going
to watch the most of, if not all, of So
that also means that I miss a majority of LSU
and Ole Miss. Now, maybe Ohio State Washington is on
the lift of great games tomorrow, which I think it
(27:01):
should be, but it's also the fact that everybody's got
a favorite school. Doug, you'd want to see how Oklahoma
State would play if with without Gundhy being there, So
you're gonna watch that game. Sam's gonna watch Iowa against Indiana,
which again is one of the better games that we've got.
He's gonna miss probably Ohio State Washington and have a
(27:21):
tougher time flipping back and forth because it's on Peacock.
But there's like, there's also that portion of it, like
Kirk kirb Street is in the complete minority of college
football fans and how they consume college football Stug.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
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(27:57):
dou I'm gonna. I'm going to quote to you, but
steal your line and maybe I'll ask Dan Byer a question.
Dan is the number three quarterback generally made available to
the media.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I don't see it a lot. Don't see it a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I've never been a beat reporter. I've never I've done
NFL games. I've talked to NFL people. I don't know
the protocol. I don't know the protocol, but it does
seem odd that the Browns would have open media and hey,
there's Shador. Sanders ask him a question that they asked
Shador if he felt like he was ready to play
(28:36):
after sitting for a couple of weeks. Here's what here's
his answer.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
He had a great quoe where he says, you don't
learn anything I've never said on the bench and said.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I learned a lot today.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
You agree with him on that?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
What are you talking?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Said?
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Respective?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So you know that's not there's not nothing. You know,
I'm pleased to answer.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You know that's nothing.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
I can't answer, not answered, but I know for sure
I'm not uh.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I know if you see the quarterback player in the
league right now, I know I know I'm capable of
doing better than that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
So Shador Sanders just pulled at Lebron James. Only Lebron
was talking about his son, Chador was talking about himself.
Let's dial back a couple of years ago where Lebron
James on I felt like a random Sunday tweeted out
that that Bronni was better than half the dudes in
the league. Was that? Was that the Was that the
exact quote, Dan Byer? Was it half the guys or
(29:30):
was it some of these guys.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'm taking a look here. Uh it's uh, if you
see she said, if you see the quarterback playing the
league right now, I know I'm capable of better of
oh of Bronni. Oh, I'm sorry. I was listening to
Kevin Stefanski cut because he responded to Shador Sanders, I
don't know the Bronni cut.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Okay, this is Bronni's tweet. This is Lebron's tweet. Man,
Bronni definitely better than some of these cats I've been
watching on League past today. Crap, lightweight, hilarious for emoji
laughing faces.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Right, So he didn't say half. He said he's he's
better than some of these guys. And that was when
Bronni was in college at USC, coming off the bench
for one of the worst teams in the Pac twelve
that year, and of course he was coming back from
uh some sort of cardiac arrest. Do we have the
Stefanski sound? Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
No, the audio isn't good. I was listening to it again.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I understand there are people and and the people that
are like the Shador Sanders flag waivers everybody. I most
of those people have it's died down because really, Dion
did them no good when he admitted that he didn't
want him to play for the Ravens. And who is
the other team that had the quarterback that he said
he didn't want to play for and they called him
I don't know, but the Ravens were the big one, right,
(30:45):
You're like, wait, what you don't want him to play?
You don't want to be on the Ravens Like kind
of seems like a pretty good place to learn. Then
you hear Shador's cut, Then you watch Shador how he
handles himself. I understand that Shador Sanders may represent something
to you that he doesn't to me. I think he
was just a really good college player and we got
(31:08):
to figure out and the Browns or whoever has him
has to figure out if he can be an NFL
starting quarterback or if he's an NFL backup. I don't
think he's a career backup because he doesn't feel like
he wants to be a backup. Because if you're invested
in the backup role, then the only possible answer, and
the first thing is you shouldn't be interviewed. The second
thing is the only possible answer should be Hey, if
(31:31):
I sit there for I'm ready to play. It doesn't matter.
My job is to get Joe Flacco ready, to make
sure he has every answer to every question that he's
going to see. And my job, if I'm the scout
team quarterback, is to get that defense ready. That's my
job on the week, Do I watch? Yeah? I mean
I have so much to learn, right, And it wasn't
(31:51):
a I don't feel like it was an unfair question
to use a quote and I don't know who he
was quoting that said I didn't learn anything when I
was sitting on the bench. When Shador can correct him,
he's like, well, I've been sent on the bench and
I've learned a ton. But much like we criticized Russell Wilson,
for not being a human being. I would say the
same thing for Shador Sanders. Yeah, Tom Buyer, I.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Was just gonna say. Kevin Stefanski did say when he
asked about it, said they prepare all of their players
to get ready to play, and it's something that they
take pride in, something that they do every minute is
to get every player ready to play. So all of
their players are ready to play.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And I'm not going to sit here and tell you
it's wrong for Shador to have confidence, nor it's wrong
that Sure thinks he can play. Every guy who plays
quarterback in the league believes if you give me what
some other guy has, right, you give me what they
got in Minnesota with that coach, that running game. When
(32:49):
when Aaron Jones is healthy, that those wide receivers like
I'd be great. So what Shador Sanders is saying is
is not inaccurate to him and how he feels. But
he just lacks any sort of ability to read the room.
That's it. That's what that's what, that's what it lacks
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Upset Alert this weekend?
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Let's get to Dan Byer for a game.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
All right, Doug, the game today is I got DIBs.
All right? First up for DIBs. NFL team on upset
alert in week four. NFL team on upset alert in
week four. The bidding is now open.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I got dips because a week ago I called Cleveland.
I'm gonna leave the I'm gonna say credit to Doug
for doing that when there wasn't a horrible injury in
the story. Right after, I'm gonna say Titans Titans. I
(35:12):
think the Texans are a really bad team and they're
gonna sleep on the Titans and cam Ward will get
his first win in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So the Texans should be on upset alert.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, Callahan out of parts there. He's not calling plays anymore, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Callahan, that's true.
Speaker 9 (35:27):
I got dibbs. Jaguars at Niners San Francisco about a
three and a half point favorite. Those rickety Niners Jags
look better than last year. Upset alert.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I'm gonna be the guy. Packer's gotta be an upset alert, right,
that would be something. No, there's no reason to think
that they shouldn't beat the Cowboys. Cowboys have shown the
building to score. I know. No, CD lamb doesn't make
make any sense. No, Michael Parsons, he's playing with bike
doesn't make any sense. But stranger things have happened. They
just lost to the Browns last week.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm putting the Ravens on upset all art short week
going to Kansas City Chiefs A home dog plus two
and a half good one.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Chiefs on dog that that sounds like something to invest in,
doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yes, best college football game of the weekend open forbidding.
I got DIBs on Oregon Penn State because it's actually
one of my favorite random Rose Bowls and now they're
conference foes nineteen ninety five Rose Bull.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I got DIBs on Auburn A and M. I mean, obviously,
I mean the one that's going to get the most
attention is Bama Georgia, but Auburn area would be mine,
would be mine just because I think Auburn's better than
the record. And then I've never buyered an A and
m A and M. She lost a Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I got DIBs on USC Illinois. As someone who grew
up on the West coast, it's going to be fun
to watch the USC Trojans on the field at nine am,
nine am Pacific time.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
I got DIBs on you guessed it, number eleven Indiana
at Iowa.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Let's go, all right, I find the guys, best cups,
best cups now open forbidding. Stanley the drink or the
hockey trophy.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Oh, I got both. Well, I have the drink, but
I'm gonna go hockey trouphy.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Iowa. Sammed it all right, sad, yeah, give me, give
me the Dixie cup, nice little, nice little small paper,
you know, throw it away, rinse out your mouth and mouthwash.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
I got yeah, yeah, and you love your bing beer pong.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
I got solo cups though, Oh okay, I got DIBs
on the catcher or goalie cup to protect the the goods.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Oh, that's game time, and that is game time, okay.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Coming up next to the dog Gottlieb Show is Russell Wilson,
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