July 28, 2023 • 39 mins
In Hour 1 of today's edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show, Doug reacts to Dalvin Cook's morning media tour where he discussed his latest intentions on who he'll sign with. Cook alluded heavily to the possibilty of teaming up with Aaron Rodgers in New York, and Doug believes that the Jets have an attractive vibe around them since Rodgers has joined the team. Marc Stein joins the show to discuss the latest moves made during the NBA off-season. Plus, Doug also reacts to Sean Payton walking back his comments on Nathaniel Hackett yesterday, a new edition of "Psychic" and much more!
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We've got to talk about show Hey Otani and the
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(01:10):
Kim about the running back market somebody asked him about
last week and it continues in the conversation is today.
Dalvin Cook kind of did the whole circuit, right, Dalvin
Cook did the circuit of questions regarding where he's gonna sign.
Here's Dalvin Cook on Good Morning Football talking about the
Jets being atop his list.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What are you personally looking for out of this media?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Just a great vibe man, Just getting around people that
I want to love on Dalvin Cook that I want
to shed that value that I want and just trying
to get around some guys that want to win. I
want to I want to bring something different to the
table man. That's being Dalvin Cook. And I think that's
what I bring to the table. I'm gonna sit down
on my agent and we're gonna, you know, we're gonna
go over things. You know right now, We're just taking
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that one stuff at the time. I think that's what
this process is about. You know, you kind of evaluate everything,
you know, you don't you don't skip the process of
going through everything. So I'm just I'm just trying to,
you know, go through one step at a time. And
you know, the the Jets right at the top of
the list. So let's go, let's go check the box.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know, it's interesting. I mean, Dalvin Cook had he
had a statistically a good year last year, right uh,
started playing all seventeen games. Obviously he's got a shoulder issue.
But last year thirty nine catches, which is not spectacular,
but it's not bad, not bad. He's had as many
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as fifty three, so he's decent at catching out of
the backfield. He was in a Pro Bowl. He was
not at all pro. What we don't know about is
his ability to pass protect. But he's not an old
guy by any means, you know, not at all. And
you know, you look at at his his contract status
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and what happened to him, what happened to him in
Minnesota is I mean, here's a dude who they spent
thirty two million dollars on and paid him a couple
million dollars to walk away. He's made thirty two million
dollars in his career. This is a great, great test case.
(03:14):
Twenty seven years old, off of his fourth straight thousand
yard season. What is Dalvin Cook worth and what is
Dalvin cookworth? What is Dalvin cookworth to the New York Jets.
That's it's like a real question how much will his
contract be? Because that's the true market setter, right, that's
(03:39):
the true The market is not it's not a free market.
When you're under contract. It's not a free market. When
you're under contract. You can be under contract next year,
that's not a free market. Dalvin Cook is a complete
and total free agent. That's a free market. So what
he signs for? How many years? And granted he got
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a shoulder issue, you know, and coming off of shoulder
surgery which he had on I think Valentine's Day, he
had a torn laborum. Now, look, a torn laborum. You're
not throwing a football much if you're a quarterback. Where
it hurts you is in your ability to maintain your strength,
(04:23):
not just for being for running the football, but more
for blocking. Right. Yeah. Also, you know if your shoulders
catching when you have a torn laborum, you know, catching
the ball over your head can be a challenge. But
really this is about blocking and about the ability to
maintain strength. But he got you know, he got shoulder
surgery on February fourteenth, The vikings Off the fourth straight
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a thousand yard season, release him. He clearly wanted a
new contract and they weren't anywhere close. What does he
get on the open market is really really interesting because
there there are no Yes, other teams have their running backs,
have their plans are set in place, but there's enough
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teams that have cab space and don't have a talent
like him on paper, specifically the Jets. How much are
you want? How much do you want Dalvin Cook? How
much you want to pay and for how long? And
there may be a plan to adjust Aaron Rodgers contract
next year where it's this gigantic cap hit. But in
the meantime, like Dalvin Cook, is it gonna be a two
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year deal? If so, what's that number going to be? Like,
I just people make make a mistake of considering things
that are not free market to breathe free market. This
is a free market. The only limiting factor is the
salary cap. And I guess the also the idea that
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many other teams already have their running backs and they're
good and they won't need another running back until they're
current running back you know, gets hurt or underperforms. So
I just I get that he is, like, man, I
just want a good vibe, do you? And wouldn't that
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be amazing if the good vibe comes suddenly from the Jets?
And you know, now you look at Aaron Rodgers looking
like a completely different human being, right, looks like a
different guy. And Aaron Rodgers is someone who he's been
kind of a Debbie downer recently when he was in
Green Bay. I think there is something too doing the
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same thing but doing it in a new place. And it's
pretty obvious that Aaron Rodgers his personality, he just he
would kind of have a dour persona. I love that word,
by the way, that's like my scrabble word of the
day is Dower kind of a dour persona when he
was the last couple of years he was in Green Bay, like, man,
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I don't want to be here. I'd like to be
anywhere but here. And I do think people generally perform
better when they're happier, when they're happier off the field.
And though the Jets aren't really in New York, right,
I know the stadiums in Jersey, but close where they
train is not particularly close to the city, but it's
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close enough to where when you want to get into
where the action is, you get in there. When you don't,
you don't have to do anything with it. But the
Aaron Rodgers suddenly becoming this leader of a band of
merry men, and man do I love being here? And
man do I love coming to work? And man is
this awesome? And et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Like
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that sounds all great, It really really does. And it
actually is believable to me because I understand what that's like.
There are people that stay places too long. In college coaching,
they'll say, every year you stay, you create an enemy.
You ever heard that? Every year you stay, you create enemy.
(08:00):
So they'll tell people, now you've been here too long,
you create too many enemies. I think it's the same
thing you know in any job. One of the amazing
things about people I know have been in like John
romisperg example, John, how long you've been a Fox Sports radio.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Since twenty What was the year that Michael Jackson passed away?
Is at twenty on? Two thousand and nine? Okay, yeah,
two thousand and seven, somewhere in there.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Nine and the percentage of days and you can answer
this Honestly, you're not getting fired percentage of days thanks
Dike that you look forward to going to work.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Out of one hundred percent, I would say one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
One hundred percent is never a day we're like, nope, really, yep.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I enjoy my job immensely.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I enjoyed the job. I would say, there's when you're
hosting a show and it's based upon your opinions and
the topics of the day. You know, if you work
in the two hundred and twenty five day variety, you
know there's somewhere in the you got to be above
two hundred in terms of days with things to say.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's right, Yes, I agree with you one hundred percent.
You're different than I am in the fact that you
actually have to come up with an idea of your
opinion every day on some sort of sports product. I don't.
I just I appreciate that you bring me in on conversations,
but not always do I have an opinion on everything, right.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But it's still but it's still you like what you do,
and you like what you do one hundred percent of
the time, and that is rare and it's one of
the things that's kept me doing what I'm doing is
I pulled some people at another job where I was
just like, hey, if if you won the if you
want the not the lottery, if you want Powerball tomorrow
(09:49):
or you want power Ball to night, would you come
to work tomorrow? And my answer is yes, I like
what I do. But I also would tell you that
I understand the Aaron Rod like. I wasn't unhappy at ESPN,
but there was the hey, what's it look like somewhere else?
You know? Uh? I think that's that's human nature, and
(10:10):
what you find is and he was somewhere how was
he eight eighteen years were there? What happens is you
you find sometimes there's things you leave behind you're like, man,
I really miss that. And then sometimes you're just energized
by the newness and a new building and a new place,
and you feel fresher and you feel younger, and you
(10:31):
feel alive, and I mean, look, it's one of the
reasons that I think people stay in college college coaching
a long time is because though the job can be
a little mundane and the same because there's always turnovers,
always fresh frass, they're always the same kind of energy
and wanting to achieve something greater then I don't. I
think you don't maintain that level of Now you could
(10:53):
say the same thing in football, but I just I
think we're gonna have to probably get to a point
where we go, you know. And I was never down
on Aaron Rodgers. People who track all of the history
of my shows will tell you that Aaron and I
have been friendly, and I've always said he's the most
talented quarterback I've seen. The only adjustment I made to
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it was, I mean, Tom Brady won a seventh Super Bowl,
and I had always said Tom is the most successful.
I thought Aaron was the best. I do think that
when you win that much at that high level, that
there's something to his quarterback play which is clearly better
than everybody else's. Rob Parker wants to say it's luck,
fine luck. As part of it is being with Bill Pelicheck.
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Part of it, sure is did he have a loaded
roster and did they have some escapes with Tampa? Absolutely,
But all of these things have to be the great
leadership have to be have guys that believe in you,
have to not turn the football over, have to be
able to perform well in the clutch. All those things
have to happen. But I've always been an Aaron Rodgers guy,
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but he turned dower the past two years. And now
it's to the point where Dalvin Cook probably gonna take
less to be with the Jets. And though Aaron Rodgers
and I do think that he'll make that thirty five
million up back, you know, they'll redo his contract next
year and he'll he'll get more of that money, and
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then they'll, you know, push more money down the road,
down the street, if you will. But we've gotten to
the point where Aaron Rodgers is happy. And when you're
happy at work, man, that's that that's really you know,
you're happy at work, and look, if you can double
it up, happy work, happy at home, you're going to
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be a productive dude. You know what I think happens
when you're unhappy at home is there's a short period
of time or a period of time in which you're
better at work, especially if you're a kind of performer,
because you know the world may be crashing down outside
and now you hyper focus on your work. I can
tell you that from personal experience like that aren't going
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well a lot of times. But it's a short play.
The long play is the happiness at work and then
of course happiness at home, and you're more productive for longer.
Isn't it interesting if Aaron Rodgers who has kind of
gone down the Brett Favre past path and kind of
turned Dowur and even the most ardent Aaron Rodgers fans
(13:21):
are like, God, this guy makes it so hard to
like him. If now he's he's conducting the best vibe
in the NFL. Granted, haven't played a game, haven't lost
a game, haven't been booted home, all these things haven't happened,
but there is something to that change of scenery which
has clearly energized him and changed him for the better.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Coming up, I was gonna say, Doug, there's something you
said yesterday which I actually wrote down, and it's something
that I believe in. I think I would tell a
lot of the coach the players that I coach. He said,
personal happiness leads to professional success. I think that's a
very very valid point.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It does. It does, And what I think is interesting
is if you can you know, how long can you
mask when you're personally unhappy? How long you know or
how long can you mask if you're professionally unhappy and
can you fix your professional or personal unhappy like while
you're in season? Or do you have to have a
change of scenery like? All those things are interesting questions.
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that he was harsh about Nathaniel Hackett, and frankly, he
was critical of his current general manager and of the
front office everybody involved because they were too busy worried
(16:27):
about winning the off season then winning football games. And
my point is that you can all of those things,
you can think, and you can maybe try and say
things to protect your quarterback. But man, that's just that
is not That is not cool in the coaching community,
(16:48):
and it's not cool in your own building when your
own boss, whether or not you're aligned with him or not,
is still your ball. He's still your general manager. Here's
Sean Payton earlier today.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Listen, I had one of those moments where I still
had my fox hat on and and not my coaching
hat on. And uh, you know, I said this to
the team in the meeting yesterday. We've had a great
off season relative to that, you know, and I've been
preaching that message. And here I am the veteran you know,
stepping in it. And uh, it was it was a
learning experience for me. It was a mistake. Obviously, I
(17:18):
needed a little bit more filter.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
You know.
Speaker 8 (17:20):
There's a pound of flesh for these guys, and as
a coach, you stick up for him. And after a while,
you know, we're past that season last year, and and
you know I said what I said, and obviously I
needed it a little bit more restraint, and I regret that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So I mean, look, he's he's given you why he
said it right pretty obvious there. I mean, he's he's
he's teeing it up right there for you is that
he was trying to protect likely Russell Wilson. Okay, well,
trying to protect Wessell Wilson, got it noted understood, and
(17:57):
now that was I trying to protect Russell Wilson. But
in addition to that, I he believes what he said,
and he but is some tact like yeah, there's a
lot of tack needed, a lot of tech needed. Definitely
didn't need to go out the current organization. But honestly, like,
(18:17):
why did you need to go after that? Daniel Hackett,
he got embarrassed, he got fired after one season. He
didn't need to state anything that was stated. None of
that needed to be said. It's the old adage. It's
the old was Chris rock Line. You can drive a
car with your feet, but that doesn't make it a
good idea. You could be critical as you want you
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can defend your players all you want. That make it
a good idea, especially when you criticize others knowing you've
been more successful and being comfortable in your success, that
that's punching down not needed. That's why you apologized. Mark
Stein in the second will get you to some NBA news.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
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our next guest, Mark Stein, of course NBA correspondent for Substack.
He's worked at all the big eas and everybody respects him.
He has all the knowledge and anything he doesn't know,
Chris Haynes knows and they share it in their in
their in their pod. Let's start with with this. Ben
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Simmons is back, right, and I don't know if this
is year two or year three of Ben Simmons is back.
It does feel more real now as we actually have
video of him working out with actual basketball players. What
do you think the likelood is that he's back, maybe
not to the level before he hurt his back, but
to a competitive level where he can play big minutes.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
I agree with you. I think that these have been
the most hope, kind of hopeful signals that we've heard
in a while with him. You know, it's been so
long now that I think, in general, most people's view
is going to be we need to see it to
believe it and see it with our own eyes. But
you know, there were there were a few games even
(20:09):
last season with the with the nets where there were
still flashes. And you know, obviously that back injury he's had.
You know, Michael Porter had the same thing. The people
who have endured that surgery say that it is a
very long recovery, so it would be a great story
if he can't make it back. You know, he's he's
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too young and too talented not to root for him,
So I certainly do. And you know, I again, I
think I understand. I understand that there's going to be
skepticism no matter how good the videos look. But I
think you're right. I think the signs are as hopeful
as they've been for a while. And if it is,
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you know, the nets of you know, post rant post Kyrie,
the Nets are more interesting, I think than a lot
of people thought possible. You know, they've replenished their draft picks.
Bridges has become such a good player. They hang on
to Cam Johnson and free agencies. They have a lot
of optionality to make moves. The Nets will be more
(21:13):
watchable and more interesting next season than I think we
probably would have anticipated after the trade deadline in February.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I tend to agree it's going to be fascinating. All right,
you hear from Let's not be critical, but I'll say
less reputable sources than yours that, well, maybe Portland's going
to try and save this thing, save the relationship. Is
there any saving the relationship between Damian Lillard and the Trailblazers.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
No, I don't think so, I really don't. I mean,
I just think we're just everybody wants us to go
fast and it's just not going fast. But I would
also say September isn't that far away, so Lie is
almost over. We got a lot going on with the
Hall of Fame, inductions, with the Feeble World Cup and
(22:04):
training camps. Training camp is going to get here faster
than you think, and it's just not going to be
as easy for the Blazers to stay patient. Now, maybe
they're going to hold firm and bring Dame to camp,
and you know, then it becomes a daily talking point
and a daily source of distraction, and it's just it
(22:25):
gets a lot harder to stick to your guns. But
I mean, look, they've got to get this right. The
Blazers have to get this right. It is you know,
they they are not a team known for a tracting
free agents. They have done really well drafting here the
last couple of years, and they have just drafted Dames
presumed air apparent in Scoot Henderson. But it's Scoot Henderson's
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going to be a reasonable facsimile of Damian Lillard this season,
probably not right away. He's gonna need some time to
make that jump to the NBA. And so the Blazers
have to get this right. They have to get commensurate
value for you know, a guy who not just productivity wise,
just his relationship with that community, that fan base. I mean,
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it's not easy to replace Damian Lillard, obviously, So they
have to get it right. And let's see if they
have the gumption to be as patient as they say
they are in July.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
What's going on with James Harden.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Well, he just doesn't have the leverage that he thinks
he does. I mean, you know, he says he wants
to go to the Clippers. You know, the Clippers to
this point have only been willing to engage to a degree.
And even if the Clippers were more gung ho about this,
Darryl Mory's already proven with the way he handled the
(23:49):
Ben Simmons situation. Darryl moriy, he will wait it out.
If Darryl Mory was running the Blazers, I think then
you would say, Okay, you know what, they may try
to say this thing because we've seen we've seen him.
Just the year that they kept Simmons all the way
to the deadline. Embiid was playing fantastic. He didn't win
the MVP that season, but that was really you know,
(24:11):
there was a lot of MVP buzz around Joell and
all the talk was Philly, you're wating an MVP season
for a beat. Laurie, hurry up, make the trade, and
he didn't. You know, he held firm until he got
something he wanted. And so I do think it is
it's easier for me to imagine. I don't know about
(24:34):
training camp, but let's say opening night, it's easier for
me to imagine Harden as a sixer than it is
to imagine Gamian Lillard as a sixer. But that's why
they played the games, as they say, that's why we
have these trades on the Let's see, maybe they're gonna
maybe the Blazers are gonna surprise us.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And I don't think this is a reach, but if
you do feel free. Obviously lebron he had that speech
where a lot of for grandizing, Hey, good news for
you guys. I'm coming back for year twenty one. But
what happened with Bronnie this week was really scary, right,
And there's a better than average chance that he doesn't
(25:16):
play basketball this year, and at least a good present
chance he may never have basketball again. We don't know
the diagnosis, but it would be I don't think there's
anybody playing in the NBA that has a defibrillator. I
don't know about if it's just a medication, whatever, but
it definitely changes the idea that, hey, in a year,
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he's gonna be in the NBA Draft and they're going
to play together. Has anybody begun to calculate what that
means for Lebron in terms of how long he's going
to play.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Not really among people I've talked to. I mean, the
story is just so fresh and so sad and really
so scary. And I have to say, you know, like
as I've been able to cover pretty much all of
Lebron's career, not from his close range as other reporters,
but I mean, I've obviously covered him in the finals
a zillion times, and I've i covered his first game
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in Sacramento, and you know, I've I've I've had the
privilege of seeing pretty much most of his highs and lows.
But i have to say, just selfishly, i think I'm
just getting older, and I'm just a softy about it.
I love Dad Lebron. I've loved watching how excited he
is being, you know, coaching his kids, being around him.
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I've run into I've seen him in Vegas when Bronnie
was much younger, and and you know, they had a
traveling team there and you know, Lebron was just like
organizing a meal at a hotel for fifty people, and
just like I've really enjoyed watching just how happy he
is to be a dad to these guys, and so
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you know, for me, I mean, I just I just
I can't even imagine going through it. I can't even
you know, It's just it's so scary and I can't
even begin to get what kind of mind frame this
throws him in. But we honest, I you know, around
in league circles, I've really just heard mostly just concern
(27:15):
and shock and really good wishes for the family because
you know, he's the kid.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Is eighteen and eighteen years old and it happened at
USC the year before, right, like, what are the chances?
I mean, just just awful. But I mean, I'm it
appears he's gonna be okay. Then the question now becomes
his basketball career well, along with his health. Mark Stein
joining us. You can read his work at Substack. Course,
(27:42):
he has this League Uncut, which is an outstanding new
podcast which you can download. He and Chris Haynes go
at it in depth about all the inside stuff in
the NBA. You know, if we would go back a
year ago and you and I are having a discussion.
Matter of fact, I can tell you a year ago
I was trying to have this ession, but you had
you weren't allowed to do radio like this. So anyway
(28:03):
we had this discussion, you and I would have discussed
Luka Doncik being, if not the best player in the
league in any conversation. So they add Kyrie Irving. Obviously
it was not they got worse, not better immediately immediate
or not immediately, but within like a month and the
lack of overall surrounding talent came back to bite him.
(28:24):
And you know, people also picked apart the fact that
he wasn't in great condition, despite the fact that this
supposedly was he was trying to get back in be
in better shape for this year. Lucas still an unbelievable talent.
I know you're incredibly close with the guys in Dallas.
Are the sneakily Are they going to be? It feels
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like they're actually gonna be really good this year and
nobody's paying attention to them.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Well, look, they've they've made They've had a pretty good summer.
I would say they haven't reached all their objectives because
they wanted a front line starting center, preferably a defensive
minded center, someone you could build the defense around, and
they didn't get that. They tried to trade for Clint Capella.
They tried to trade for DeAndre Ayton. They would have
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thrown all their free agent money at Naz Reid had
not read made it a free agency, but not Reid
ended up doing a deal with Minnesota before he even
got the free agency, so they haven't been able to
really address the center situation. They got Rashaun Holmes in
the Draft Night trade, in which they also acquired number
twenty four from Sacramento and drafted Olivier Maxentz Prosper, who
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they are really high on. They had a great draft
to get Lively and Prosper, and the MAVs have a
pretty sector draft history, so they were absolutely thrilled with
the picks they made. But you know, you know, we'll see.
I think they got Grant Williams at a really good number.
They tried to get matif Tybele Portland. Matt Thatt offer.
If you were adding Grant Williams and Tible and Rashaun
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Holmes to your center rotation with Lively now and you
have Luca and Kyrie back, I think you would you
know that people probably would be talking about them more.
But you know, again, they're they're still kind of keeping
hopes that they can find some sort of trade for
a center, and basically Williams. Grant Williams, they are counting
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on him to have a massive impact here. I mean,
they need a better Grant Williams and more consistent Grant
Williams than we saw in Boston. When he plays to
his peak, He's an excellent defender, corner threes and does
a lot of good stuff and guard almost every position
on the court. But they need him to play at
a higher level of consistency. He's gonna have a much
bigger role here in Dallas than he did in Boston.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
In league circles, Lucas still viewed as one of the
two or three best players. Isn't he no question?
Speaker 7 (30:50):
No question? And look my questions about this team, aren't
you know? Are the fit? The mav made the decision
to trade for Kyrie Irvings, so they felt like they
had to rEFInd him they could not lose him. But
at its core, would you build your team would you
when you have Luka Doncic, would you have a ball
(31:13):
dominant Kyrie Irving as his number two and build your
team around those two guys?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
No?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
You know, that's what the skeptics points to, and that's
what the MAVs are going to have to prove that
they can do this season. They've made a lot of
changes to the team and I don't think they're done.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Awesome stuff. Enjoy your weekend. Thanks so much for joining us.
Remember it's this league. Uncut reads working sub a substack
as well as Mark Stein. He covers the NBA as
well or better than anybody who does it. Sonny, thanks
so much for joining us.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
All good talk to all right.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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the PAC twelve going to lose more teams? We'll discuss next.
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Speaker 2 (32:31):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Show, Nick Cope, what's the game today?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
All right, Doug? Today's game is Psychic where we asked
Doug to lend us his clairvoyant ways and tell us
the future certain baseball. Here Angels are going for it.
They've made that known. They've won seven of eight right now,
three games back in the final final wildcard spot. Instead
of asking, we'll show hey, o tany be traded? This week? Doug?
Will the Angels make the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yes? Yes, I'm gonna hope it into existence. Nick. What
you don't know is in nineteen eighty seven, I was
a weed lad of eleven years old and had won
a little bit of a lottery, some lottery to get
World Series tickets. Granted, this is back when the Big
A was a multi purpose facility, and I was out
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in like the third deck in center field and Donny
Moore gave up a home run and I was devastated.
We did win the World Series, you know, two That
was gigantic rally Monkey, rally Monkey, but not since I
mean it feels like forever Ago to Trout get to
the playoffs lost to Kansas City. I think they'll get
to the wild Card.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
It'd be great for baseball. I th it needs to happen,
all right. Doug Colorado headed back to the Big Twelve.
That conference now at thirteen teams for next fall. Reports
are that they want to add one more, get to
a round number of fourteen. Well, the Big twelve poach
another PAC twelve school, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, I mean they're going to kind of have their
pick at the litter just because they have their TV
deal in shape and the Pac twelve doesn't appear to
have anything right, and they're talking about, well, now we're
going to add teams, but after we get our TV
deal done. Like it just more delays, the more it
allows Brett Yormark to commission the Big Twelve to go
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out and smartly pick somebody wants to add. And the
question becomes, you know, do you add Arizona make it
continue to make the best basketball conference ever? Do you
add Arizona State? Do you ad them both? I think
they add them both, and and I think that Utahs
and I mean that Utah, Yukon, San diy State all
in play as well.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
So if you're the big twelve, you'd rather add a
few more, get to sixteen and really blow this thing up.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yes, you know, look you're gonna have to work with
your with with TV companies, so you make sure that
everybody's you know, I mean, look, every team that you add,
you got to add like thirty four million dollars in
added value you and they don't all bring that much,
so you got to figure that out. But you can
also make travel easier, you know, with a with a
pod system. You know, if you ad Arizona, Arizona State,
(35:10):
and then you have you know, BYU and Colorado. Right,
there's that there's like four teams there, yep, right, and
then you have Kansas, Kansas State, you got Iowa State,
West Virginia, Cincinnati like something there, and then you have
Oklahoma State with the Texas School something along those lines.
So i there's there's work to be done. But they
(35:34):
they got to figure out. You know, no one's figured
out this mega conference. Can we get a pod system?
But that's mostly for the that is mostly for the
Olympics sports. You got to make it easy for them
to travel.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Let's go to the NBA. Earlier this week, Jalen Brown
agreeing to a record deal with the Celtics. Will Boston
regret paying Brown three hundred and four million dollars?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yes? Yes, Now, Look, I mean Brown is an unbelievable
human being, right like, he legitimately wants to use a
good portion of the money he's making to help others.
That's admirable, more than admirable. On the other hand, this
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is important that that doesn't mean it's money well spent
from the Celtics and sometimes really hard. Now they can
sit there and go, hey, we were in the NBA
finals last year, we were close this year. That sounds great,
but it's so prohibitive that level of contract that you've
basically got to hope that he and Jason Tatum are
(36:41):
good enough for the surrounding cast, because you can't add
a third star. You got to have a really good
supporting cast. And I don't know if he's good enough
as a star. Does play both ends, obviously not a
great left hand dribbler. I don't know if he's good
enough as a star to win a title.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
With Let's go to the NFL. Speaking of someone who
became a star late in the year.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Brock.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
He's back healthy for the forty nine ers in training camp.
Will Purdy be able to recapture the magic he had
last season?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I don't think so. And I think this elbow thing
is going to be a bigger deal than most people believe.
I just do. I think, you know, there's a reason
dudes normally get Tommy John. I could be wrong. He
didn't have a crazy strong arm to begin with. Now
he's coming off of an elbow procedure. Yeah, I don't
(37:28):
And like you said, second year people start to figure
him out now I don't see it.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Follow up question that I think is potentially more interesting
given all the injuries than Niners have had. Who's QB
two for them? Sam Donald or Trey Lance Donald?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Donald's a guy? Donald is the guy.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Well, there you have it. That's game time.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
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Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What a
rate show we have for you coming up. I think
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Heyo Tani's big day yesterday, right, and you know you
always hear this from professional athletes like all the locker
room so excited at the front office. But oftentimes, I mean,
(38:18):
I'll tell you that that there are times in which
you add a player, and even when it's a successful
team and you're going for it, like, look, any player
you add that's going to take somebody else's opportunity away.
But I I don't know. I thought the batflip showed
he loves playing with these guys and he wants to win.
And then yesterday, if you missed it, holy cow, did
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he put on a show through two games that they
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So let's do this coming up next. Okay, let's try
and figure out how we now look at show Heyotani
as oppos to maybe how we looked at him at
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We've got to talk about show Hey Otani and the
day he had yesterday. We'll see if he can continue
on this. For the Angels who are red hot, they
take on the Blue Jays tonight show. Hey O Tani
will be a topic, but we'll get to that probably
in an hour, Mark Dominic's gonna join us. We'll ask
(01:10):
Kim about the running back market somebody asked him about
last week and it continues in the conversation is today.
Dalvin Cook kind of did the whole circuit, right, Dalvin
Cook did the circuit of questions regarding where he's gonna sign.
Here's Dalvin Cook on Good Morning Football talking about the
Jets being atop his list.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
What are you personally looking for out of this media?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Just a great vibe man, Just getting around people that
I want to love on Dalvin Cook that I want
to shed that value that I want and just trying
to get around some guys that want to win. I
want to I want to bring something different to the
table man. That's being Dalvin Cook. And I think that's
what I bring to the table. I'm gonna sit down
on my agent and we're gonna, you know, we're gonna
go over things. You know right now, We're just taking
(01:54):
that one stuff at the time. I think that's what
this process is about. You know, you kind of evaluate everything,
you know, you don't you don't skip the process of
going through everything. So I'm just I'm just trying to,
you know, go through one step at a time. And
you know, the the Jets right at the top of
the list. So let's go, let's go check the box.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know, it's interesting. I mean, Dalvin Cook had he
had a statistically a good year last year, right uh,
started playing all seventeen games. Obviously he's got a shoulder issue.
But last year thirty nine catches, which is not spectacular,
but it's not bad, not bad. He's had as many
(02:31):
as fifty three, so he's decent at catching out of
the backfield. He was in a Pro Bowl. He was
not at all pro. What we don't know about is
his ability to pass protect. But he's not an old
guy by any means, you know, not at all. And
you know, you look at at his his contract status
(02:53):
and what happened to him, what happened to him in
Minnesota is I mean, here's a dude who they spent
thirty two million dollars on and paid him a couple
million dollars to walk away. He's made thirty two million
dollars in his career. This is a great, great test case.
(03:14):
Twenty seven years old, off of his fourth straight thousand
yard season. What is Dalvin Cook worth and what is
Dalvin cookworth? What is Dalvin cookworth to the New York Jets.
That's it's like a real question how much will his
contract be? Because that's the true market setter, right, that's
(03:39):
the true The market is not it's not a free market.
When you're under contract. It's not a free market. When
you're under contract. You can be under contract next year,
that's not a free market. Dalvin Cook is a complete
and total free agent. That's a free market. So what
he signs for? How many years? And granted he got
(04:00):
a shoulder issue, you know, and coming off of shoulder
surgery which he had on I think Valentine's Day, he
had a torn laborum. Now, look, a torn laborum. You're
not throwing a football much if you're a quarterback. Where
it hurts you is in your ability to maintain your strength,
(04:23):
not just for being for running the football, but more
for blocking. Right. Yeah. Also, you know if your shoulders
catching when you have a torn laborum, you know, catching
the ball over your head can be a challenge. But
really this is about blocking and about the ability to
maintain strength. But he got you know, he got shoulder
surgery on February fourteenth, The vikings Off the fourth straight
(04:46):
a thousand yard season, release him. He clearly wanted a
new contract and they weren't anywhere close. What does he
get on the open market is really really interesting because
there there are no Yes, other teams have their running backs,
have their plans are set in place, but there's enough
(05:07):
teams that have cab space and don't have a talent
like him on paper, specifically the Jets. How much are
you want? How much do you want Dalvin Cook? How
much you want to pay and for how long? And
there may be a plan to adjust Aaron Rodgers contract
next year where it's this gigantic cap hit. But in
the meantime, like Dalvin Cook, is it gonna be a two
(05:28):
year deal? If so, what's that number going to be? Like,
I just people make make a mistake of considering things
that are not free market to breathe free market. This
is a free market. The only limiting factor is the
salary cap. And I guess the also the idea that
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many other teams already have their running backs and they're
good and they won't need another running back until they're
current running back you know, gets hurt or underperforms. So
I just I get that he is, like, man, I
just want a good vibe, do you? And wouldn't that
(06:09):
be amazing if the good vibe comes suddenly from the Jets?
And you know, now you look at Aaron Rodgers looking
like a completely different human being, right, looks like a
different guy. And Aaron Rodgers is someone who he's been
kind of a Debbie downer recently when he was in
Green Bay. I think there is something too doing the
(06:33):
same thing but doing it in a new place. And it's
pretty obvious that Aaron Rodgers his personality, he just he
would kind of have a dour persona. I love that word,
by the way, that's like my scrabble word of the
day is Dower kind of a dour persona when he
was the last couple of years he was in Green Bay, like, man,
(06:54):
I don't want to be here. I'd like to be
anywhere but here. And I do think people generally perform
better when they're happier, when they're happier off the field.
And though the Jets aren't really in New York, right,
I know the stadiums in Jersey, but close where they
train is not particularly close to the city, but it's
(07:15):
close enough to where when you want to get into
where the action is, you get in there. When you don't,
you don't have to do anything with it. But the
Aaron Rodgers suddenly becoming this leader of a band of
merry men, and man do I love being here? And
man do I love coming to work? And man is
this awesome? And et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Like
(07:36):
that sounds all great, It really really does. And it
actually is believable to me because I understand what that's like.
There are people that stay places too long. In college coaching,
they'll say, every year you stay, you create an enemy.
You ever heard that? Every year you stay, you create enemy.
(08:00):
So they'll tell people, now you've been here too long,
you create too many enemies. I think it's the same
thing you know in any job. One of the amazing
things about people I know have been in like John
romisperg example, John, how long you've been a Fox Sports radio.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Since twenty What was the year that Michael Jackson passed away?
Is at twenty on? Two thousand and nine? Okay, yeah,
two thousand and seven, somewhere in there.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Nine and the percentage of days and you can answer
this Honestly, you're not getting fired percentage of days thanks
Dike that you look forward to going to work.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Out of one hundred percent, I would say one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
One hundred percent is never a day we're like, nope, really, yep.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I enjoy my job immensely.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I enjoyed the job. I would say, there's when you're
hosting a show and it's based upon your opinions and
the topics of the day. You know, if you work
in the two hundred and twenty five day variety, you
know there's somewhere in the you got to be above
two hundred in terms of days with things to say.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's right, Yes, I agree with you one hundred percent.
You're different than I am in the fact that you
actually have to come up with an idea of your
opinion every day on some sort of sports product. I don't.
I just I appreciate that you bring me in on conversations,
but not always do I have an opinion on everything, right.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But it's still but it's still you like what you do,
and you like what you do one hundred percent of
the time, and that is rare and it's one of
the things that's kept me doing what I'm doing is
I pulled some people at another job where I was
just like, hey, if if you won the if you
want the not the lottery, if you want Powerball tomorrow
(09:49):
or you want power Ball to night, would you come
to work tomorrow? And my answer is yes, I like
what I do. But I also would tell you that
I understand the Aaron Rod like. I wasn't unhappy at ESPN,
but there was the hey, what's it look like somewhere else?
You know? Uh? I think that's that's human nature, and
(10:10):
what you find is and he was somewhere how was
he eight eighteen years were there? What happens is you
you find sometimes there's things you leave behind you're like, man,
I really miss that. And then sometimes you're just energized
by the newness and a new building and a new place,
and you feel fresher and you feel younger, and you
(10:31):
feel alive, and I mean, look, it's one of the
reasons that I think people stay in college college coaching
a long time is because though the job can be
a little mundane and the same because there's always turnovers,
always fresh frass, they're always the same kind of energy
and wanting to achieve something greater then I don't. I
think you don't maintain that level of Now you could
(10:53):
say the same thing in football, but I just I
think we're gonna have to probably get to a point
where we go, you know. And I was never down
on Aaron Rodgers. People who track all of the history
of my shows will tell you that Aaron and I
have been friendly, and I've always said he's the most
talented quarterback I've seen. The only adjustment I made to
(11:16):
it was, I mean, Tom Brady won a seventh Super Bowl,
and I had always said Tom is the most successful.
I thought Aaron was the best. I do think that
when you win that much at that high level, that
there's something to his quarterback play which is clearly better
than everybody else's. Rob Parker wants to say it's luck,
fine luck. As part of it is being with Bill Pelicheck.
(11:37):
Part of it, sure is did he have a loaded
roster and did they have some escapes with Tampa? Absolutely,
But all of these things have to be the great
leadership have to be have guys that believe in you,
have to not turn the football over, have to be
able to perform well in the clutch. All those things
have to happen. But I've always been an Aaron Rodgers guy,
(11:57):
but he turned dower the past two years. And now
it's to the point where Dalvin Cook probably gonna take
less to be with the Jets. And though Aaron Rodgers
and I do think that he'll make that thirty five
million up back, you know, they'll redo his contract next
year and he'll he'll get more of that money, and
(12:18):
then they'll, you know, push more money down the road,
down the street, if you will. But we've gotten to
the point where Aaron Rodgers is happy. And when you're
happy at work, man, that's that that's really you know,
you're happy at work, and look, if you can double
it up, happy work, happy at home, you're going to
(12:39):
be a productive dude. You know what I think happens
when you're unhappy at home is there's a short period
of time or a period of time in which you're
better at work, especially if you're a kind of performer,
because you know the world may be crashing down outside
and now you hyper focus on your work. I can
tell you that from personal experience like that aren't going
(13:00):
well a lot of times. But it's a short play.
The long play is the happiness at work and then
of course happiness at home, and you're more productive for longer.
Isn't it interesting if Aaron Rodgers who has kind of
gone down the Brett Favre past path and kind of
turned Dowur and even the most ardent Aaron Rodgers fans
(13:21):
are like, God, this guy makes it so hard to
like him. If now he's he's conducting the best vibe
in the NFL. Granted, haven't played a game, haven't lost
a game, haven't been booted home, all these things haven't happened,
but there is something to that change of scenery which
has clearly energized him and changed him for the better.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Coming up, I was gonna say, Doug, there's something you
said yesterday which I actually wrote down, and it's something
that I believe in. I think I would tell a
lot of the coach the players that I coach. He said,
personal happiness leads to professional success. I think that's a
very very valid point.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
It does. It does, And what I think is interesting
is if you can you know, how long can you
mask when you're personally unhappy? How long you know or
how long can you mask if you're professionally unhappy and
can you fix your professional or personal unhappy like while
you're in season? Or do you have to have a
change of scenery like? All those things are interesting questions.
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things to protect your quarterback. But man, that's just that
is not That is not cool in the coaching community,
(16:48):
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is still your ball. He's still your general manager. Here's
Sean Payton earlier today.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Listen, I had one of those moments where I still
had my fox hat on and and not my coaching
hat on. And uh, you know, I said this to
the team in the meeting yesterday. We've had a great
off season relative to that, you know, and I've been
preaching that message. And here I am the veteran you know,
stepping in it. And uh, it was it was a
learning experience for me. It was a mistake. Obviously, I
(17:18):
needed a little bit more filter.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
You know.
Speaker 8 (17:20):
There's a pound of flesh for these guys, and as
a coach, you stick up for him. And after a while,
you know, we're past that season last year, and and
you know I said what I said, and obviously I
needed it a little bit more restraint, and I regret that.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So I mean, look, he's he's given you why he
said it right pretty obvious there. I mean, he's he's
he's teeing it up right there for you is that
he was trying to protect likely Russell Wilson. Okay, well,
trying to protect Wessell Wilson, got it noted understood, and
(17:57):
now that was I trying to protect Russell Wilson. But
in addition to that, I he believes what he said,
and he but is some tact like yeah, there's a
lot of tack needed, a lot of tech needed. Definitely
didn't need to go out the current organization. But honestly, like,
(18:17):
why did you need to go after that? Daniel Hackett,
he got embarrassed, he got fired after one season. He
didn't need to state anything that was stated. None of
that needed to be said. It's the old adage. It's
the old was Chris rock Line. You can drive a
car with your feet, but that doesn't make it a
good idea. You could be critical as you want you
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can defend your players all you want. That make it
a good idea, especially when you criticize others knowing you've
been more successful and being comfortable in your success, that
that's punching down not needed. That's why you apologized. Mark
Stein in the second will get you to some NBA news.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Doug Gotlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. If you're
looking for a really good listen regarding the NBA, download
This League Uncut. It's a new podcast. Chris Haynes at
our next guest, Mark Stein, of course NBA correspondent for Substack.
He's worked at all the big eas and everybody respects him.
He has all the knowledge and anything he doesn't know,
Chris Haynes knows and they share it in their in
their in their pod. Let's start with with this. Ben
(19:26):
Simmons is back, right, and I don't know if this
is year two or year three of Ben Simmons is back.
It does feel more real now as we actually have
video of him working out with actual basketball players. What
do you think the likelood is that he's back, maybe
not to the level before he hurt his back, but
to a competitive level where he can play big minutes.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
I agree with you. I think that these have been
the most hope, kind of hopeful signals that we've heard
in a while with him. You know, it's been so
long now that I think, in general, most people's view
is going to be we need to see it to
believe it and see it with our own eyes. But
you know, there were there were a few games even
(20:09):
last season with the with the nets where there were
still flashes. And you know, obviously that back injury he's had.
You know, Michael Porter had the same thing. The people
who have endured that surgery say that it is a
very long recovery, so it would be a great story
if he can't make it back. You know, he's he's
(20:31):
too young and too talented not to root for him,
So I certainly do. And you know, I again, I
think I understand. I understand that there's going to be
skepticism no matter how good the videos look. But I
think you're right. I think the signs are as hopeful
as they've been for a while. And if it is,
(20:51):
you know, the nets of you know, post rant post Kyrie,
the Nets are more interesting, I think than a lot
of people thought possible. You know, they've replenished their draft picks.
Bridges has become such a good player. They hang on
to Cam Johnson and free agencies. They have a lot
of optionality to make moves. The Nets will be more
(21:13):
watchable and more interesting next season than I think we
probably would have anticipated after the trade deadline in February.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I tend to agree it's going to be fascinating. All right,
you hear from Let's not be critical, but I'll say
less reputable sources than yours that, well, maybe Portland's going
to try and save this thing, save the relationship. Is
there any saving the relationship between Damian Lillard and the Trailblazers.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
No, I don't think so, I really don't. I mean,
I just think we're just everybody wants us to go
fast and it's just not going fast. But I would
also say September isn't that far away, so Lie is
almost over. We got a lot going on with the
Hall of Fame, inductions, with the Feeble World Cup and
(22:04):
training camps. Training camp is going to get here faster
than you think, and it's just not going to be
as easy for the Blazers to stay patient. Now, maybe
they're going to hold firm and bring Dame to camp,
and you know, then it becomes a daily talking point
and a daily source of distraction, and it's just it
(22:25):
gets a lot harder to stick to your guns. But
I mean, look, they've got to get this right. The
Blazers have to get this right. It is you know,
they they are not a team known for a tracting
free agents. They have done really well drafting here the
last couple of years, and they have just drafted Dames
presumed air apparent in Scoot Henderson. But it's Scoot Henderson's
(22:48):
going to be a reasonable facsimile of Damian Lillard this season,
probably not right away. He's gonna need some time to
make that jump to the NBA. And so the Blazers
have to get this right. They have to get commensurate
value for you know, a guy who not just productivity wise,
just his relationship with that community, that fan base. I mean,
(23:12):
it's not easy to replace Damian Lillard, obviously, So they
have to get it right. And let's see if they
have the gumption to be as patient as they say
they are in July.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
What's going on with James Harden.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Well, he just doesn't have the leverage that he thinks
he does. I mean, you know, he says he wants
to go to the Clippers. You know, the Clippers to
this point have only been willing to engage to a degree.
And even if the Clippers were more gung ho about this,
Darryl Mory's already proven with the way he handled the
(23:49):
Ben Simmons situation. Darryl moriy, he will wait it out.
If Darryl Mory was running the Blazers, I think then
you would say, Okay, you know what, they may try
to say this thing because we've seen we've seen him.
Just the year that they kept Simmons all the way
to the deadline. Embiid was playing fantastic. He didn't win
the MVP that season, but that was really you know,
(24:11):
there was a lot of MVP buzz around Joell and
all the talk was Philly, you're wating an MVP season
for a beat. Laurie, hurry up, make the trade, and
he didn't. You know, he held firm until he got
something he wanted. And so I do think it is
it's easier for me to imagine. I don't know about
(24:34):
training camp, but let's say opening night, it's easier for
me to imagine Harden as a sixer than it is
to imagine Gamian Lillard as a sixer. But that's why
they played the games, as they say, that's why we
have these trades on the Let's see, maybe they're gonna
maybe the Blazers are gonna surprise us.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And I don't think this is a reach, but if
you do feel free. Obviously lebron he had that speech
where a lot of for grandizing, Hey, good news for
you guys. I'm coming back for year twenty one. But
what happened with Bronnie this week was really scary, right,
And there's a better than average chance that he doesn't
(25:16):
play basketball this year, and at least a good present
chance he may never have basketball again. We don't know
the diagnosis, but it would be I don't think there's
anybody playing in the NBA that has a defibrillator. I
don't know about if it's just a medication, whatever, but
it definitely changes the idea that, hey, in a year,
(25:37):
he's gonna be in the NBA Draft and they're going
to play together. Has anybody begun to calculate what that
means for Lebron in terms of how long he's going
to play.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Not really among people I've talked to. I mean, the
story is just so fresh and so sad and really
so scary. And I have to say, you know, like
as I've been able to cover pretty much all of
Lebron's career, not from his close range as other reporters,
but I mean, I've obviously covered him in the finals
a zillion times, and I've i covered his first game
(26:09):
in Sacramento, and you know, I've I've I've had the
privilege of seeing pretty much most of his highs and lows.
But i have to say, just selfishly, i think I'm
just getting older, and I'm just a softy about it.
I love Dad Lebron. I've loved watching how excited he
is being, you know, coaching his kids, being around him.
(26:32):
I've run into I've seen him in Vegas when Bronnie
was much younger, and and you know, they had a
traveling team there and you know, Lebron was just like
organizing a meal at a hotel for fifty people, and
just like I've really enjoyed watching just how happy he
is to be a dad to these guys, and so
(26:54):
you know, for me, I mean, I just I just
I can't even imagine going through it. I can't even
you know, It's just it's so scary and I can't
even begin to get what kind of mind frame this
throws him in. But we honest, I you know, around
in league circles, I've really just heard mostly just concern
(27:15):
and shock and really good wishes for the family because
you know, he's the kid.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Is eighteen and eighteen years old and it happened at
USC the year before, right, like, what are the chances?
I mean, just just awful. But I mean, I'm it
appears he's gonna be okay. Then the question now becomes
his basketball career well, along with his health. Mark Stein
joining us. You can read his work at Substack. Course,
(27:42):
he has this League Uncut, which is an outstanding new
podcast which you can download. He and Chris Haynes go
at it in depth about all the inside stuff in
the NBA. You know, if we would go back a
year ago and you and I are having a discussion.
Matter of fact, I can tell you a year ago
I was trying to have this ession, but you had
you weren't allowed to do radio like this. So anyway
(28:03):
we had this discussion, you and I would have discussed
Luka Doncik being, if not the best player in the
league in any conversation. So they add Kyrie Irving. Obviously
it was not they got worse, not better immediately immediate
or not immediately, but within like a month and the
lack of overall surrounding talent came back to bite him.
(28:24):
And you know, people also picked apart the fact that
he wasn't in great condition, despite the fact that this
supposedly was he was trying to get back in be
in better shape for this year. Lucas still an unbelievable talent.
I know you're incredibly close with the guys in Dallas.
Are the sneakily Are they going to be? It feels
(28:44):
like they're actually gonna be really good this year and
nobody's paying attention to them.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Well, look, they've they've made They've had a pretty good summer.
I would say they haven't reached all their objectives because
they wanted a front line starting center, preferably a defensive
minded center, someone you could build the defense around, and
they didn't get that. They tried to trade for Clint Capella.
They tried to trade for DeAndre Ayton. They would have
(29:12):
thrown all their free agent money at Naz Reid had
not read made it a free agency, but not Reid
ended up doing a deal with Minnesota before he even
got the free agency, so they haven't been able to
really address the center situation. They got Rashaun Holmes in
the Draft Night trade, in which they also acquired number
twenty four from Sacramento and drafted Olivier Maxentz Prosper, who
(29:36):
they are really high on. They had a great draft
to get Lively and Prosper, and the MAVs have a
pretty sector draft history, so they were absolutely thrilled with
the picks they made. But you know, you know, we'll see.
I think they got Grant Williams at a really good number.
They tried to get matif Tybele Portland. Matt Thatt offer.
If you were adding Grant Williams and Tible and Rashaun
(30:01):
Holmes to your center rotation with Lively now and you
have Luca and Kyrie back, I think you would you
know that people probably would be talking about them more.
But you know, again, they're they're still kind of keeping
hopes that they can find some sort of trade for
a center, and basically Williams. Grant Williams, they are counting
(30:22):
on him to have a massive impact here. I mean,
they need a better Grant Williams and more consistent Grant
Williams than we saw in Boston. When he plays to
his peak, He's an excellent defender, corner threes and does
a lot of good stuff and guard almost every position
on the court. But they need him to play at
a higher level of consistency. He's gonna have a much
bigger role here in Dallas than he did in Boston.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
In league circles, Lucas still viewed as one of the
two or three best players. Isn't he no question?
Speaker 7 (30:50):
No question? And look my questions about this team, aren't
you know? Are the fit? The mav made the decision
to trade for Kyrie Irvings, so they felt like they
had to rEFInd him they could not lose him. But
at its core, would you build your team would you
when you have Luka Doncic, would you have a ball
(31:13):
dominant Kyrie Irving as his number two and build your
team around those two guys?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
No?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
You know, that's what the skeptics points to, and that's
what the MAVs are going to have to prove that
they can do this season. They've made a lot of
changes to the team and I don't think they're done.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Awesome stuff. Enjoy your weekend. Thanks so much for joining us.
Remember it's this league. Uncut reads working sub a substack
as well as Mark Stein. He covers the NBA as
well or better than anybody who does it. Sonny, thanks
so much for joining us.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
All good talk to all right.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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(32:07):
the PAC twelve going to lose more teams? We'll discuss next.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
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Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio coming to you from
the Tyrek dot Com studios. Every day at this time
we like to get you caught up on stories. Today
we do so by playing a game.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Show, Nick Cope, what's the game today?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
All right, Doug? Today's game is Psychic where we asked
Doug to lend us his clairvoyant ways and tell us
the future certain baseball. Here Angels are going for it.
They've made that known. They've won seven of eight right now,
three games back in the final final wildcard spot. Instead
of asking, we'll show hey, o tany be traded? This week? Doug?
Will the Angels make the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yes? Yes, I'm gonna hope it into existence. Nick. What
you don't know is in nineteen eighty seven, I was
a weed lad of eleven years old and had won
a little bit of a lottery, some lottery to get
World Series tickets. Granted, this is back when the Big
A was a multi purpose facility, and I was out
(33:20):
in like the third deck in center field and Donny
Moore gave up a home run and I was devastated.
We did win the World Series, you know, two That
was gigantic rally Monkey, rally Monkey, but not since I
mean it feels like forever Ago to Trout get to
the playoffs lost to Kansas City. I think they'll get
to the wild Card.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
It'd be great for baseball. I th it needs to happen,
all right. Doug Colorado headed back to the Big Twelve.
That conference now at thirteen teams for next fall. Reports
are that they want to add one more, get to
a round number of fourteen. Well, the Big twelve poach
another PAC twelve school, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, I mean they're going to kind of have their
pick at the litter just because they have their TV
deal in shape and the Pac twelve doesn't appear to
have anything right, and they're talking about, well, now we're
going to add teams, but after we get our TV
deal done. Like it just more delays, the more it
allows Brett Yormark to commission the Big Twelve to go
(34:21):
out and smartly pick somebody wants to add. And the
question becomes, you know, do you add Arizona make it
continue to make the best basketball conference ever? Do you
add Arizona State? Do you ad them both? I think
they add them both, and and I think that Utahs
and I mean that Utah, Yukon, San diy State all
in play as well.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
So if you're the big twelve, you'd rather add a
few more, get to sixteen and really blow this thing up.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yes, you know, look you're gonna have to work with
your with with TV companies, so you make sure that
everybody's you know, I mean, look, every team that you add,
you got to add like thirty four million dollars in
added value you and they don't all bring that much,
so you got to figure that out. But you can
also make travel easier, you know, with a with a
pod system. You know, if you ad Arizona, Arizona State,
(35:10):
and then you have you know, BYU and Colorado. Right,
there's that there's like four teams there, yep, right, and
then you have Kansas, Kansas State, you got Iowa State,
West Virginia, Cincinnati like something there, and then you have
Oklahoma State with the Texas School something along those lines.
So i there's there's work to be done. But they
(35:34):
they got to figure out. You know, no one's figured
out this mega conference. Can we get a pod system?
But that's mostly for the that is mostly for the
Olympics sports. You got to make it easy for them
to travel.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Let's go to the NBA. Earlier this week, Jalen Brown
agreeing to a record deal with the Celtics. Will Boston
regret paying Brown three hundred and four million dollars?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yes? Yes, Now, Look, I mean Brown is an unbelievable
human being, right like, he legitimately wants to use a
good portion of the money he's making to help others.
That's admirable, more than admirable. On the other hand, this
(36:18):
is important that that doesn't mean it's money well spent
from the Celtics and sometimes really hard. Now they can
sit there and go, hey, we were in the NBA
finals last year, we were close this year. That sounds great,
but it's so prohibitive that level of contract that you've
basically got to hope that he and Jason Tatum are
(36:41):
good enough for the surrounding cast, because you can't add
a third star. You got to have a really good
supporting cast. And I don't know if he's good enough
as a star. Does play both ends, obviously not a
great left hand dribbler. I don't know if he's good
enough as a star to win a title.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
With Let's go to the NFL. Speaking of someone who
became a star late in the year.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Brock.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
He's back healthy for the forty nine ers in training camp.
Will Purdy be able to recapture the magic he had
last season?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I don't think so. And I think this elbow thing
is going to be a bigger deal than most people believe.
I just do. I think, you know, there's a reason
dudes normally get Tommy John. I could be wrong. He
didn't have a crazy strong arm to begin with. Now
he's coming off of an elbow procedure. Yeah, I don't
(37:28):
And like you said, second year people start to figure
him out now I don't see it.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Follow up question that I think is potentially more interesting
given all the injuries than Niners have had. Who's QB
two for them? Sam Donald or Trey Lance Donald?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Donald's a guy? Donald is the guy.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Well, there you have it. That's game time.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What a
rate show we have for you coming up. I think
you're gonna like this. We got to talk about show.
Heyo Tani's big day yesterday, right, and you know you
always hear this from professional athletes like all the locker
room so excited at the front office. But oftentimes, I mean,
(38:18):
I'll tell you that that there are times in which
you add a player, and even when it's a successful
team and you're going for it, like, look, any player
you add that's going to take somebody else's opportunity away.
But I I don't know. I thought the batflip showed
he loves playing with these guys and he wants to win.
And then yesterday, if you missed it, holy cow, did
(38:40):
he put on a show through two games that they
won both And now you know they're right there, right there.
So let's do this coming up next. Okay, let's try
and figure out how we now look at show Heyotani
as oppos to maybe how we looked at him at
(39:02):
the start of this year or even going back to
last year. Last year, I told you he should have
been the al MVP. People said no, Aaron Judge, I
was like, oh, okay, okay, are the angels making the
right decision? I'll tell you. Next to the Doug Gottlieb Show,
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