September 30, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug talks about the Miami Dolphins and their star receiver Tyreek Hill going down with an awful knee injury Monday night. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst John Middlekauff onto the show to talk about the Bengals, Chargers and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Rank 'Em".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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world is your boy?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
You know that'd be a good one, some.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Dude named Doug.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I don't think there's any doubt in my mind that
Dan Bayer would get it, because Dan Byer, he just
gets these things, regardless of which welcome in. I'm intrigued
by something. I'm just I'm just intrigued by something. What
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are you clapping about?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So? What's so great?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
What did you feel when Tyreek Hill went down with
his injury? You know, what did you feel when Tyreek
Hill went down with his injury? I asked that because
I'm not trying to be morbid, I'm not trying to
be insensitive, but he is a guy who generates a
lot of feelings from people. And you know, it's like I,
(01:36):
I didn't get a response from you, Jay Stu. But
I think that's probably because you either weren't paying attention
or you didn't want to type the wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I don't know if there is the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But last night you're watching the Dolphins take down the
Jets and Tyreek Hill goes down with an injury, which
I think all of us.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Could consider a devastating one.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Right and now we've learned that he tore up his knee,
he disokayed his kneecap, he's done for the year. You know,
I'm not gonna do the his careers in question, even
though you know, years twenty years ago, made thirty years ago,
he was very much in question. It's not as much
in question now. But whether or not he's a superstar
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upon his return, that's a fair question to ask, completely fair.
I'll tell you what I thought one second. Let me
let me play for you a little bit of the
sound last night of Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel's been under
a ton of pressure. He's the head coach of the
Miami Dolphins, and he had this to say about Tyreek
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Hill's injury.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It was a dislocation. He was probably in the best
spirits of any player that I've ever you know, it's
such a terrible experience, but he was. He immediately had
white eyes and was talking, I'm good. Just make sure
the guys get this when you know, he's focused on
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the team.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So I'm outside of that.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I'm sure I'll be giving more information tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I would say that some of his reaction was being
in shock. Some of his reaction is one of those
what else can go wrongs?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
What else can go wrong? Sure? Why not?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Of course? You know, of course, And I would be
willing to say a portion of it is an honest reaction.
You know, hey, go make sure these guys go get
one because you don't know what you're supposed to do
when you're laying there and you're like, you think your
career could be over, because it's an honest feeling to
have when you have that sort of grotesque and injury,
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you don't have the time to go like, you know what,
They'll they'll straighten it out, they'll fix it up. It'll
be a tough year and a half of rehab, and
I'll be Okay, a guy who is has gone through
a period where he's the most dynamic athlete in the league.
We okay saying that, Like, that's probably how I would
contextualize it. The I saw game when they played the Chargers,
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he had two touchdowns in the first half, literally on
his own.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
One was a fumbley pickback and ran for a touchdown,
picked up run for a touchdown. The other was a
handoff that he ran for a touchdown. Like he's that
sort of freak. And so if you take away one
of those guy's legs or one of his superpowers, what
is he like when he comes back?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You add in the off the field problems with the
on the field issues of getting along with his quarterback
and his head coach, and you have yourself an interesting
scenario that I do wonder if it's coming, which is
are the Dolphins actually going to be a better team
without him?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And I know I've been the guy who's.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Been critical of Skip Bayless back when Kevin Durant was
hurt and early on the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Are the Warriors better without Kevin Durant? They're not.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
The difference is that though Tyreek Hill has superhuman powers,
and he's an unbelievable athlete. He's also an unbelievable pain
in the arse, and he makes every harder, not easier,
despite the fact that he's arguably or maybe inarguably the
most talented.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Guy on the offense side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Definitely on their team, but maybe in their division and
maybe in the entire league. So I ask when I
saw him go down, I thought, gosh, that's a waste.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And a waste.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, he has other worldly talent. And whether it
was Drew Rosnass's agent or his own internal greed, but
it took him away from the Kansaity Chiefs and from
multiple Super Bowl appearances and Super Bowl wins, and he
went to Miami. And he didn't go to Miami to
do his own thing. He went to Miami to make
more money. And he thought, you know, he was so
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good that he could lead that team where he thought
he had led the Chiefs, even though he hadn't led
the Chiefs. And the perfect example of how you can
actually be better with inferior talent is the Chiefs. Chiefs
don't have anyone anywhere near as good as Tyreek Hill
zero wide receivers. Nobody who's any we're in the in
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the what's it called when you have your the atmosphere,
not just you know, there's no one in the solar
system of Tyreek Hill as a talent. Yet they keep
going to Super Bowls and winning some of them without
Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
How is that possible?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Because yes, talent is a lot in professional sports, but
so too all of those other things which we deem
to be in tangibles, getting along with your coach, getting
along with your teamates, doing the things you're supposed to
do on and off the field, being on time to practice,
running the routes you're supposed to be when you don't
get the football, like, all those things matter. And apparently
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they've mattered more to other guys than they did to
Tyreek Hill, and that's why they've been able to survive
and thrive without him. So when I saw him go down,
I thought, man, that's a waste, because he is such
a spectacular talent, but he's still can't get right. He
still hasn't figured it out in life. And my fear is,
maybe my hope is that he used this time and
he figures out all the other stuff in life. Well
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at the same time maintaining and building some form of
athleticism to be close to what he's been to this
point in the league. Bio, what'd you think when you
saw Tyreek Hill go down with the injury?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I had two thoughts. I thought, first of all, that
this was it. That this is probably the last that
we're going to see Tyreek Hill of being Tyreek Hill
on the football field. He doesn't have the same explosiveness
and who he is. It's going to be very difficult
for him, even though I think he possesses a lot
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of the top level skills you need as a wide receiver.
I mean, he does catch with his hands. He can
at times high point footballs despite how how short he is.
I felt that this is going to this is the
end of the Tyreek Hill that we knew on the
football field. I also had a selfish fantasy football reason
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on the final catch. I was beaten by Tyreek Hill
so on the play that he was tackled and suffered
the injury. If he would have dropped the football, I
then would have won the game because he wouldn't have returned.
But there was also the selfish aspect of it when
it comes to fantasy football.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, I saw that somewhere going around that, Like you
think about if you had Tyreek Hill and Derek Henry,
not Derek Henry, who else?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Who are the running backs that got hurt?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Braylan Allen got hurt last night? Yeah, for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You're kind of going through all these guys and you're like,
if you had Lamar Jackson, Tyreek Hill, Braylan Allen, like
just kind of go through the list, like think of
how bad your fantasy team is right now.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I was trying to think of the scenarios prior to
the game, and this is so callous, but this is sorry.
Just when you play fantasy football, you have these thoughts.
You're thinking, all right, what about he just kind of
pulls a hammy? All right, pull something? And then I
saw him on a cart and I'm like ooh, because
I had actually been at the other game of the
Broncos and Bengals when I came back and saw the
Hill injury. But I did think that the big picture
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him of this is it especially for a guy who
was thought to maybe be a trade piece. I don't
know if that was really realistic. I'm not sure how
many teams would have wanted to bring in Tyreek Hill.
I guess we'll never know, but I just don't think
we're ever going to see the same Tyreek Hill because
we had started to see a different version of him.
Those big plays haven't been there. Teams have been able
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to defend that, and now to come back with the
severity of this injury, and now we're hearing that it
could affect twenty twenty six as well. Yeah, I think
that this is this is it for Tyreek Hill as
a top level wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Ja sty what'd you think? I know, you've been an
outspoken critic of Tyreek Hill the person off the football field.
What did you think when you saw Tyreek Hill go down?
Speaker 7 (09:40):
So I hated it. You tried to goad me, and
I'm never going to fall for your goating. You know
him a person who doesn't like watching injuries or looking
at injuries. I have yet to see it. I have
created a skill set to somehow not watch sports injuries
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that are bad.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
It's like a sixth sense for me. I know it's
going to be seen. I look away, you send me screenshots.
I look away very good at that. I hated seeing it.
I feel bad for him and the Dolphins. That said,
I also think Tyreek Hill represents all almost all of
the worst qualities of a public figure and a professional athlete.
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I think he's kind of a despicable person. I think
he's His moral compass is the opposite of what I
would want my child to look up to. When you
saw him being carted off and he was like ear
to ear smiles, my first thought was, he's so excited
that now he's got a little extra time on his
hands to impregnate as many women as he can.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He's like he thought I was going to go to him.
I wasn't going you into watching the video. I was
goading you into tweeting texting something about Karma because you
so despise him as a human being.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Oh okay, I thought that's yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I actually thought that Doug played dirty pool by taking
a screenshot of what it was, because it's kind of
I'm surprised that Jason was able to avoid it.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I was.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
I was not all of a sudden, I was like, wait,
what's this? And then i said, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Oh, there's his knee that that legs turned the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Okay, what about you there? I was Sam.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
I agree with Dan.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
I don't think we're gonna get the twenty twenty three
version of Tyreek Hill ever again, which was his what
first year was it? First year with the Dolphins, he
had like eighteen hundred yards and then last year, of course,
the injury to two oh, he was out a lot,
so his predictive he slipped like you know, to like
half and then this year the injury. Yeah, I just
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don't think he's gonna ever have that top line speedback.
How old is Tyrek?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Do we know?
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Is he mid thirties?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Early?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Is not mid thirty mid thirties?
Speaker 8 (11:59):
Someone could check on that. My hands are busy at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
He's only thirty one, But you know he's I think
he'll play, but still yeah, I mean, he's not going
to be the guy we saw at the Chiefs or
the twenty twenty three Miami Dolphin Tyreek Hill probably ever again.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
But you do need a competent court. You need a
quarterback to throw you the ball too.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So what did you guys think of the Tua comments
after the game? For people who missed it, tuas like,
you know, I thank God for keeping all of us
safe for the most part, like it was.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I want to say that, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Like just Tua is so like that's just so automatic
to come out of his mouth that he didn't think
about it until all of a sudden was.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
But it did land strangely right where he's thanking God
for keeping them safe when his most talented wide receiver
got carted off with an obvious.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Major leg injury. Did you guys hear the interview at all?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Okay, just we have it.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
We have it right here right.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Okay, Yeah, take a listen. This is this is Tua
after the game.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It belongs to God, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Just want to thank him for this victory, for us,
keeping us safe for the most part when except sit
my wide receiver's leg on was falling off. Thanks for
everybody else being healthy.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
By the way, he took a shot in the game,
I don't know if you guys saw this, but there
was there was I think he had scrambled or something,
took a really big blow and one of I think
it was Orlovsky, like I think this way to I
don't know if you guys think this will it every
time he gets out and scrambles. I cringe because all
it takes is one hit and he took a shot,
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and Orlovsky's like, and you forget the fact that he's
got like three or four concussions, And yeah, no, I
never forget that. I always watched that when I watched
to I was. I was at the game with Dan
Bayer last Thursday night, and every time I saw too
a scramble in person, I felt my body tensed up
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
The viewing experience, by the way, last night with the
staggered start was awful because you had two games that
really weren't competitive, and you're guessing on what what you're
trying to watch and win.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I had the I had the two box up with
with YouTube and you neither was It was fine, it
was on.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
I think there are more people like me that had
one TV though, and I think that's the well.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's one TV. It's one TV on YouTube TV.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
I mean one screen. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's where
I think. So last night, so you have a game
against with with the Dolphins and Jets that really isn't competitive.
So maybe a flip over to Broncos Bengals and then
you're watching that for a little while. I missed the
injury to Tyree Kill because I was on Broncos Bengals.
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I think it was, you know, coming right out a halftime.
I think it was. And so, yeah, so you missed
that portion of it. Then you're kind of toggling back
and forth waiting for something interesting to happen, not necessarily
sure what you're watching.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
I think that for all the people that complain about
the doubleheaders and how late it is, give me that
ten days out of the week than what last night's
stag would start gives you.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, I don't mind the doubleheaders at all. I just
I just don't. I don't know why the NFL does either.
It's more people watching their games. I guess the only
people that would Matt would would be bothered would be
ESPN because it delays when you guess set to Van
Pelt with Sports Center. I can't understand it, you know,
because you have plenty of time in that window and
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it becomes a West coast window, and that would have
been a West Coast watch last night.
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Speaker 3 (16:01):
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Speaker 8 (16:30):
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Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's so sad, so sad. Uh. This isn't just a game.
It's a once in a generation event.
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I don't I don't know if it was just a shellacking,
a mismatch, or a bad game, but man, it did
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feel like the Bengals looked at looked themselves in the
mirror and thought what we all thought when Joe Burrow
went down.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
When Joe Burrow went down, I think collective we were
all like, yeah, they're kind.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Of done, and you had people going to hold on.
Jake Browning is one of the most respected backups in
the league. He's athletic, he can move, He's been with
the Bengals. He is do you know what he's not.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
He's not Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Factor in that they've had to rebuild their defense and
they were in a tough spot against the Broncos team
that hadn't played terribly well and the Broncos at Homer
way better and their defense is nasty.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Here's Zach Taylor, their head coach. Something got the loss.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
I thought our defense really second half held him scoreless
until really the last drive of the game, and they
did what they could and held him twenty one points.
A good team on the road, and offensively, we're just
not creating enough on them to put points on the board.
Put pressure on the other team. Get up our defensive rest,
pre snapt penalties. As a whole, it's not nearly good enough.
We're a team that should not be having that problem.
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We have to get it corrected. We can't. We can't
just hand the other team five yards and put us
behind the eight ball, especially dealing with some of the
stuff we gotta deal with on the road. And so
we gotta get it cleaned up.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, gotta get gotta get cleaned up. That's a classic
coach pick right there. Gotta get cleaned up, Gotta get
cleaned up. We're on to Cincinnati. Wait, you guys are Cincinnati?
Oh my bad, my bet. Yeah, Bengals. They get Detroit
at home, then they got the Packers on the road.
Good luck with that, Good luck with that one. Yeah,
let's go Aheadlet's let's welcome in John Middlecoff three. Now
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it's the podcast, of course, the Volume podcast network. When
Tyreek Hill went down with his knee injury, I want, honestly,
what went on through your mind?
Speaker 12 (18:54):
Well, I had on two TVs, so the audio for
the Denver game was on, so I I didn't know
because Wattle kind of looks like that too, and I
kind of looked up last second and I could just
see the small guy there and his leg was pointing
the wrong way. So I didn't know which one of
the two guys it was obviously.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Type it into Twitter really quick, get it fast before.
Speaker 12 (19:15):
They even come back, and you go, that ain't good.
And then once they showed the replay, I mean I
couldn't even look. I mean my first my first response
was one of those guys, one of the two.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Little star receivers.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
Their career is probably over because that it was horrific.
I mean it looked I mean I couldn't rewatch. I
don't know if you did, but it had like an
Alex Smith type.
Speaker 13 (19:37):
Vibe to it.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
No, it was bad. I watched it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I'm one of those and I think you and I
have discussed this before, but I tell this to there's
three types of people in this world. Type one, I
don't want to see it. I won't look at it,
don't show it to me, no, thank you. Type two,
I just want to see it once, maybe even a
still picture, just so I know what everybody's talking about.
There's type three, where I can't see it enough.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Where do you fall?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I'm three?
Speaker 12 (20:03):
Three, I think I used to be three, and I
still him three with some stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Yeah, but I do think with injuries, I maybe I've changed.
Speaker 12 (20:13):
Maybe it's maybe it's maturity. I don't know, injuries aren't
with sports, but well, who was the dude for Louisville
that shattered his leg or you know, Paul George. I
mean that was like my prime of being a number three.
I could watch those over and over. But now, oh,
I mean it's I mean, are you are we in
agreement that this is I mean, it's gonna be pretty
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tough for guy that's games predicated on being the fastest
player like in the league. Uh, to continue a career.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
One would think that, right, miracles of medical science. Who
knows what happens? Is there any world where the Dolphins
are a better team.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Because of it?
Speaker 12 (20:50):
I actually, once Waller started making plays, I thought the
way I talk about the Dolphins, you know, to uh listen,
he's kind of a punching bag. But relative to most quarterbacks,
I mean, he's better than fifteen of them. He's just
not anywhere near the top six or seven. But like
on a sunny day or good weather day like they
had last night, if he's got weapons and a good team,
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you can win nineteen games. And I'm watching Waller waddle
until I go this is this team is not sniffing
the number one overall pick. Now they're not gonna make
the playoffs, but they're gonna be. You're gonna look up
and it's like the Dolphins are drafting thirteenth like that.
They were gonna win like six games with that. With
that up, I mean, they played the Jets twice, that's two.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
They played the Panthers next week, that's three. Now, I
still think there will be decently.
Speaker 12 (21:34):
I still like him against the Panthers, but that probably
cost him a win or two, just because the little
easier now with just the one wide receiver, not to
and even Ahan, I mean, to me, the story of
that game, God, and I would say.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
This about Pete Carroll too.
Speaker 12 (21:49):
You go to the Jets and you go to the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
It's hard, man, it really is.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
And obviously you know the Raiders got new people, they
got Count Brady, the Jets new people, new energy.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
It's it's just something.
Speaker 12 (22:02):
About I don't know, it's like in the air because
you'd be like, well, what about Horrorball and the Chargers, Like,
I don't know. The Charge has been mainly good most
of my life, so I mean not like Super Bowl good,
but they sure won a lot of games most years,
and even their bad teams win like seven eight games.
You know, you just watch Pete Carroll and you watch
Aaron Glenn. I mean, I thought what Aaron Glenn did
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last year with like me and you playing defense, that
was incredible because like this was of the greatest things
I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
They had nobody.
Speaker 12 (22:28):
Their entire team was hurt and they were snow playing
hard and you can just see it on its face.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
It's like same old Jets.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
What's wrong with the with the Ravens.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Well, their entire defense is hurt.
Speaker 12 (22:40):
And you know one thing that you know, because Josh
and Lamar are talked about, you know, synonymously a lot. Right,
let's face the Bill's defense for the most part has
not been good over the last five or six years
relative to the elite defense. Lamar went to a place
that I don't know. It was like basically Steelers two
point zher just known as a defensive franchise, and now
(23:03):
they're basically the Bengals on defense. So it's like the
the the margin Ferrara on offense, Like we it's like
what the Lions did at the end of the season.
You better be scoring thirty five minimum every game.
Speaker 13 (23:16):
You got no shots like that.
Speaker 12 (23:17):
That's just that's what you're that's you're Thurrow dealt with
that last year.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
And that's this team.
Speaker 12 (23:22):
I mean, Matta Bouque gone then, always been hurt. Rokuan
is out. Now Humphrey who last year was like the
catalysts when their defense was sucking early and then they
flipped him, they kind of moved him on defense and
then their defense was good again, and now he's out.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Like I just think that this.
Speaker 12 (23:43):
Might be they got a little forty nine or vibe
of last year. It's like, you know, we're gonna look
up and they're gonna be six and eleven. You just
can't overcome that many injuries.
Speaker 13 (23:51):
I don't care what the logo.
Speaker 12 (23:53):
On the side of your helmet is. And even with Lamar,
because they were offense, they blow people out, but they
smother you in the second half, like busting huge runs. Right,
It's not like, you know, they're the twenty eighteen Chiefs
throwing bombs. So the way they've blown a lot of
people out in the half, it's a little different than
like some of these other teams. And I do wonder
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if it's gonna really just it's gonna it's clearly throwing
them off because they look terrible.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
John Mittalcoff's our guest sting Ounce the podcast. You can
listen to that podcast in the Volume podcast network. This
is the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
let's let's let's go around the league a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Have you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I can't figure out who to blame on that Colts
fumble and if he was I feel like that the
Colts fumble and the incomplete pass at the end of
the Florida State game.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I don't know if you saw that game are the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Which those those guys are taught to always like at
the end, just tuck the ball. I tucked the ball,
and they tried to tuck it and when they move, oh,
that's when they lose the ball. Like I'm watching the
run in Indy actually was in l A against the Rams.
That was incredible run, incredible touchdown, but it turned around
the entire game when he fumbled it through.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The end zone.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (25:14):
I mean, I've never had an issue with that rule.
I thought it was pretty bang bang too. Like watching it,
I'm just actually just pulled it up because I wanted
to watch it again. I thought to play where Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I mean, the thing if you're the Colts you feel.
Speaker 12 (25:27):
Good is I think Jonathan Taylor has been through the.
Speaker 13 (25:30):
First four games like a top five non quarterback in
the league as a skill guy.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Dean looks dominant. Yeah, and that run.
Speaker 12 (25:38):
One thing you see And this is where the you know,
the defensive coaches, did you think it was that egregious
of a old no? You know, and it's like, I
try to lean the defense, you know, give him a
little bit of grace because it's hard to it's hard
to play defense. It's hard to coach defense. Now the
rules are against you and some of these penalties, and
(25:58):
I think it happens a lot to take attack on
defensive holding.
Speaker 13 (26:02):
But that was like, I mean, I thought that negated.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
I don't know, like one of the plays of the day.
Speaker 12 (26:06):
I mean, he's like he looked like Ashton Genty looked,
but even way better, like spinning through the tackle.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I'm still I like I like the Donnie.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
Mitchell a lot in college.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
I like, halfway through that game.
Speaker 12 (26:19):
I remember I was just kind of taking notes on
the NFL Sunday. One of the things I wrote is like,
I think the culture for real, I know they ended
up losing that game. Obviously, Staffords isn't playing great. I mean,
clearly the Rams are really good, but a couple.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Of freak things.
Speaker 12 (26:33):
I'm pretty bullish on the Colts, like I think they're
a twelve thirteen win team.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
You know, throughout the season, something weird happens.
Speaker 12 (26:40):
But I think it was more just like those two
plays and more of an outlier thing.
Speaker 13 (26:43):
I think they're gonna be fine because I think Dan.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Jones looks good.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Was it that Minnesota's all banged up or are they
getting better?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Well?
Speaker 12 (26:54):
I think TJ flip the switch the last couple of weeks.
He looks a little bit better, and he's the heart
feat of the squad, so when he goes, they feel
more physical on defense. Now you get your backup quarterback
in there. Like to me, a backup quarterback wins two
games total.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
He's underpaid.
Speaker 13 (27:12):
I think you and I have talked about this.
Speaker 12 (27:13):
So every game the backup quarterback goes, and even Carson
Wentz doesn't look terrible, it's just.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Not the same.
Speaker 12 (27:18):
Now you can argue, we don't even know if JJ
the starting quarterback, is good. But their offensive line they
got injuries again, it's kind of running for his life.
It's why Like this week, one of my favorite best
of the week is the Browns to make this very.
Speaker 13 (27:31):
Interesting against Minnesota.
Speaker 12 (27:32):
How are they going to block Miles Garrett in that front?
Mason Grant, Like, the Browns defense is good and their
front is good, they could be a major, major problem.
So the Steelers are in pretty good shape right now.
Right you got the Browns we know are terrible. That
the Bengals, I mean, just got no shot, but they
couldn't block me or you. And the Ravens just have
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so many injuries and they're one and three that even
if they battle back, like getting the nine wins feel
like a miracle this.
Speaker 13 (28:00):
Point in time.
Speaker 12 (28:00):
So I think the Feelers, you just got to keep
Rogers up right, and I don't see.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Now when things can change. He can get hurt.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
That to me is the big wildcard with him. Like,
if you tell me Rogers plays seventeen games, I don't
see how they don't win the division.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so
I'm reading several reports that the Browns look like they're
going to make a quarterback change and it's going to
be Dylan Gabriel. What do you make of the pace
of this change like to be made?
Speaker 12 (28:34):
Well, I mean, I think we kind of knew when
Flacco was signed to this god awful team that he,
you know what, was the over under of games who
was going to start because they weren't going to win
many games. But this is also like going back to
that story a couple of weeks ago. I'm pretty sure
me and you talked about it with Dion saying about
like I didn't.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Get better on the stanch Bold.
Speaker 12 (28:54):
Yeah, Deon, You've never been on the bench in your
entire light. It's like Shador Sanders. Like I was watching
the Ravens game and the backup came in to start
the fourth quarter. I mean, he would have got reps
in that game, and they drafted a guy you said
you don't want to go to these teams. You could
have been the backup quarterback. You're not even the backup here.
So uh, I think the coaches like Dylan Gabriel. Here's
(29:14):
the thing, if Dylan Gabriel shows any signs of life,
he's gonna get a very long rope because that's who
the head coach and who's also the play caller and
also the quarterback guy clearly likes.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, I think otherwise they want to draft they drafted him.
Speaker 12 (29:30):
You know what's gonna be sad though, Like everyone on
social media, it's like everyone's gonna be rooting against Dylan
Gabriel Like, guys, you might want to google this kid.
He dominated Oklahoma, then he went to Oregon dominated more.
Like this guy's not coming from UC.
Speaker 13 (29:44):
Davis, Like check his resumes.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
It's not bad.
Speaker 12 (29:46):
I know he's small and listen, I don't I didn't
even like him as an NFL prospect, but I do
think the way we talk about him was like, yeah,
they just found this guy in like D three. Like, guys,
he was a starting quarterback last year at Oregon, Like
that was him, you know the guy that we just
watched Dee Penn State more. He was his backup. You know,
there's no like sitout of rules, Like if he would
have beat him out, they could have gone with him,
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but he couldn't. Like Dylan Gabriels. I mean, there's a
reason some of these coaches like him, even if I
technically don't.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Really why are the Packers better?
Speaker 12 (30:20):
I give you a pass on the Browns game, right,
you're on the road. The defense is good, but you
gotta when I give you a pass meeting play a
bad game, but you gotta win.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
You can't lose.
Speaker 12 (30:31):
You got to win that thing ten to three or
thirteen to ten or whatever.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
You just get a win. Get out.
Speaker 12 (30:36):
Last game's embarrassing. I know they got injuries, but I
do think it's an indictment on by de Parsons. You
trade two first round picks, you give the guy one
hundred and ninety million dollars, Like that's the type game
in their prime, Aaron Donald, Khalil Mack JJ Watt would
have been like, Okay, what am I doing? Four sacks,
a strip, bumble tipped interception. I'm taking this all the
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great players, I mean me and you have been watching
football forever, going back to the nineties. So Reggie White,
you name it, like there's a weird game, our defense
not playing well, I'm going to take this thing over.
And it's like he's going up against a player.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Who's this guy back up left hand? Like who's he playing?
Speaker 12 (31:15):
And beside the one play that he made at the
end of the game, which is a chase down tackle,
which is great, but it's like that they needed him
in that because the offense was doing their part right.
Offense is lightening up the scoreboards. Defense is and shambles,
but they do have one inspired, great player who's definitely
paid forty seven million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
And it's like, I just needed more. You know.
Speaker 12 (31:36):
The cowboys on defense don't have more to give. But
you get Micah Parsons like and he'd be like, well
he heard his back in the middle of the game.
Well he made the play on Dak what was like
in overtime? So he clearly was Okay, I think you're
a little like, hey man, and I can't imagine this
is like a goodh Kin slash laforward, things like we
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need you to take over.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 12 (31:58):
You know, a lot of wise men said money doesn't
change who you are, Like he is that point, like,
this is who Mike is. You're not getting Reggie Wider
Lawrence Taylor in your prize. So maybe it's that's just
what he's gonna do. He's gonna have some good games,
some okay games.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
He's not like, uh, you know ray Lewis or something.
This isn't you know. I know the media annointed him,
but I.
Speaker 12 (32:19):
Don't think very talented player, but I don't think when
it's all sudden done people it's one of the greatest
players of all time.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I don't think he's there, but I do think
he's very talented, plays hard. It just defies logic. Two
Blackfield goals two weeks in a row.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Uh, sort of sleep at the wheel with it.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
Threw my premise that they needed, like that was a
game for him to like get get three sacks.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Something happened.
Speaker 12 (32:43):
Yes, yes, no question, the Special teams.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I mean, you know, Rich got elevated.
Speaker 12 (32:50):
People love Rich Measascia right, Gruden forever, But you just
watch the Special teams to like that.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Does anyone know what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
No? No, Hey, Johnny, great stuff. Thanks so much for
joining us.
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game with Dan Bayer.
Speaker 10 (33:32):
Dan, this is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
All right, Doug, the game today is rank up. All right, Doug,
rank your top three teams in the NFL through four
weeks of the season.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Bill Eagles, Bill's Eagles, Bills Eagles.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Oh this is hard. Now it gets difficult.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's interesting.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I have a nomination, but I don't know if Sam's
got to use it in Tuesday after the morning quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
In the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, what is it? Well?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I think the Rams have a pretty good case of
being number three.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, lost the Eagles on a blackfield goal. Could have
won that easily. Go to won that game.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, I'll go with that. I'm going with that Rams.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
A reason I didn't say charges is the injuries are
just piling up, and I don't think I think if
they were healthy, i'd have no problem.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But they are not healthy. That's why they lost that game.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Yeah, it's not why like we look at their schedule
and thought the division games early on could be something negative.
They go three at zero and now you're going to
be shorthanded for a little while. So maybe it's good
to get those in the bank.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Can we still need a fourth team? Three teams? Sorry,
three teams.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's through week four, So I was going.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
To nominate the Lions. They were probably one of the
better teams, right and.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Maybe maybe you'll talk about the Lions and Tuesday morning
quarterback in the afternoon coming up, Doug, rank your three
NFL teams that you're selling your stock on right now
through four weeks.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Selling stocks. I had to own stock in them to
begin with.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Right, yeah, yeah, who aren't you buying anymore?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Not buying the Ravens. Not buying the Ravens just again,
injuries are piling up. Not buying the Vikings, yep, And
(35:41):
I'm not buying hey, hey, I'm not buying the Texans.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
One of three on the season is Houston. Doug, rank
your top three teams in college football? Oh, oh Oregan
With that.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Big win at end State, maybe they cracked the top three.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yes, for sure, Ohio State, Oregon. And I'm gonna go
with little Miss all right, We've got to point out,
you know, Miami two big wins in a row, so
doing well and the big window start the season.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
It's all right, I was like the last one one
that's kind of outside the box. Sure, maybe they're not three,
but you at least want to give them recognition. Bingo,
all right, rank the uh? Rank your top three Syracuse hoopers.
You know, yeah, yeah, we've got the news of Lawrence
Molten's passing. But your top three favorite Syracuse Hoopers.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I'll do poetry. And Moten is three because he died
today and he was super smooth. Sherman Douglas at two,
and Pearl Washington and one.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Oh my god, I go DC. I'm gonna DC top
my list goes.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I love DC, but I mean Pearl and and Sherman
Douglas I like idolized as a kid, and they were
guards and my dad was in New York City point guard.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So that's where it comes from.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
All right, Mellow didn't even make the list.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
No, I know it's dismissive, but there is a national championship.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
No question, that's great. He was there for like five minutes.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And that's game time.
Speaker 10 (37:25):
Game this is game time. On the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Cut up in the dug Gottlieb Show. What's the one
thing not covered yesterday that's driving you crazy?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Well, we won't try to be crazy. Tuesday Morning Quarterback,
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Sports Radio And of all the locations, We're a cool
one today, cool one today. I think we meet. We
may play at trivia with the guys. Where in the
world is your boy?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
You know that'd be a good one, some.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Dude named Doug.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I don't think there's any doubt in my mind that
Dan Bayer would get it, because Dan Byer, he just
gets these things, regardless of which welcome in. I'm intrigued
by something. I'm just I'm just intrigued by something. What
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are you clapping about?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So? What's so great?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
What did you feel when Tyreek Hill went down with
his injury? You know, what did you feel when Tyreek
Hill went down with his injury? I asked that because
I'm not trying to be morbid, I'm not trying to
be insensitive, but he is a guy who generates a
lot of feelings from people. And you know, it's like I,
(01:36):
I didn't get a response from you, Jay Stu. But
I think that's probably because you either weren't paying attention
or you didn't want to type the wrong thing.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I don't know if there is the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But last night you're watching the Dolphins take down the
Jets and Tyreek Hill goes down with an injury, which
I think all of us.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Could consider a devastating one.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Right and now we've learned that he tore up his knee,
he disokayed his kneecap, he's done for the year. You know,
I'm not gonna do the his careers in question, even
though you know, years twenty years ago, made thirty years ago,
he was very much in question. It's not as much
in question now. But whether or not he's a superstar
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upon his return, that's a fair question to ask, completely fair.
I'll tell you what I thought one second. Let me
let me play for you a little bit of the
sound last night of Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel's been under
a ton of pressure. He's the head coach of the
Miami Dolphins, and he had this to say about Tyreek
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Hill's injury.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It was a dislocation. He was probably in the best
spirits of any player that I've ever you know, it's
such a terrible experience, but he was. He immediately had
white eyes and was talking, I'm good. Just make sure
the guys get this when you know, he's focused on
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the team.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
So I'm outside of that.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I'm sure I'll be giving more information tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I would say that some of his reaction was being
in shock. Some of his reaction is one of those
what else can go wrongs?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
What else can go wrong? Sure? Why not?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Of course? You know, of course, And I would be
willing to say a portion of it is an honest reaction.
You know, hey, go make sure these guys go get
one because you don't know what you're supposed to do
when you're laying there and you're like, you think your
career could be over, because it's an honest feeling to
have when you have that sort of grotesque and injury,
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you don't have the time to go like, you know what,
They'll they'll straighten it out, they'll fix it up. It'll
be a tough year and a half of rehab, and
I'll be Okay, a guy who is has gone through
a period where he's the most dynamic athlete in the league.
We okay saying that, Like, that's probably how I would
contextualize it. The I saw game when they played the Chargers,
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he had two touchdowns in the first half, literally on
his own.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
One was a fumbley pickback and ran for a touchdown,
picked up run for a touchdown. The other was a
handoff that he ran for a touchdown. Like he's that
sort of freak. And so if you take away one
of those guy's legs or one of his superpowers, what
is he like when he comes back?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You add in the off the field problems with the
on the field issues of getting along with his quarterback
and his head coach, and you have yourself an interesting
scenario that I do wonder if it's coming, which is
are the Dolphins actually going to be a better team
without him?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And I know I've been the guy who's.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Been critical of Skip Bayless back when Kevin Durant was
hurt and early on the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Are the Warriors better without Kevin Durant? They're not.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
The difference is that though Tyreek Hill has superhuman powers,
and he's an unbelievable athlete. He's also an unbelievable pain
in the arse, and he makes every harder, not easier,
despite the fact that he's arguably or maybe inarguably the
most talented.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Guy on the offense side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Definitely on their team, but maybe in their division and
maybe in the entire league. So I ask when I
saw him go down, I thought, gosh, that's a waste.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And a waste.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, he has other worldly talent. And whether it
was Drew Rosnass's agent or his own internal greed, but
it took him away from the Kansaity Chiefs and from
multiple Super Bowl appearances and Super Bowl wins, and he
went to Miami. And he didn't go to Miami to
do his own thing. He went to Miami to make
more money. And he thought, you know, he was so
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good that he could lead that team where he thought
he had led the Chiefs, even though he hadn't led
the Chiefs. And the perfect example of how you can
actually be better with inferior talent is the Chiefs. Chiefs
don't have anyone anywhere near as good as Tyreek Hill
zero wide receivers. Nobody who's any we're in the in
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the what's it called when you have your the atmosphere,
not just you know, there's no one in the solar
system of Tyreek Hill as a talent. Yet they keep
going to Super Bowls and winning some of them without
Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
How is that possible?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Because yes, talent is a lot in professional sports, but
so too all of those other things which we deem
to be in tangibles, getting along with your coach, getting
along with your teamates, doing the things you're supposed to
do on and off the field, being on time to practice,
running the routes you're supposed to be when you don't
get the football, like, all those things matter. And apparently
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they've mattered more to other guys than they did to
Tyreek Hill, and that's why they've been able to survive
and thrive without him. So when I saw him go down,
I thought, man, that's a waste, because he is such
a spectacular talent, but he's still can't get right. He
still hasn't figured it out in life. And my fear is,
maybe my hope is that he used this time and
he figures out all the other stuff in life. Well
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at the same time maintaining and building some form of
athleticism to be close to what he's been to this
point in the league. Bio, what'd you think when you
saw Tyreek Hill go down with the injury?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I had two thoughts. I thought, first of all, that
this was it. That this is probably the last that
we're going to see Tyreek Hill of being Tyreek Hill
on the football field. He doesn't have the same explosiveness
and who he is. It's going to be very difficult
for him, even though I think he possesses a lot
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of the top level skills you need as a wide receiver.
I mean, he does catch with his hands. He can
at times high point footballs despite how how short he is.
I felt that this is going to this is the
end of the Tyreek Hill that we knew on the
football field. I also had a selfish fantasy football reason
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on the final catch. I was beaten by Tyreek Hill
so on the play that he was tackled and suffered
the injury. If he would have dropped the football, I
then would have won the game because he wouldn't have returned.
But there was also the selfish aspect of it when
it comes to fantasy football.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, I saw that somewhere going around that, Like you
think about if you had Tyreek Hill and Derek Henry,
not Derek Henry, who else?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Who are the running backs that got hurt?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Braylan Allen got hurt last night? Yeah, for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You're kind of going through all these guys and you're like,
if you had Lamar Jackson, Tyreek Hill, Braylan Allen, like
just kind of go through the list, like think of
how bad your fantasy team is right now.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I was trying to think of the scenarios prior to
the game, and this is so callous, but this is sorry.
Just when you play fantasy football, you have these thoughts.
You're thinking, all right, what about he just kind of
pulls a hammy? All right, pull something? And then I
saw him on a cart and I'm like ooh, because
I had actually been at the other game of the
Broncos and Bengals when I came back and saw the
Hill injury. But I did think that the big picture
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him of this is it especially for a guy who
was thought to maybe be a trade piece. I don't
know if that was really realistic. I'm not sure how
many teams would have wanted to bring in Tyreek Hill.
I guess we'll never know, but I just don't think
we're ever going to see the same Tyreek Hill because
we had started to see a different version of him.
Those big plays haven't been there. Teams have been able
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to defend that, and now to come back with the
severity of this injury, and now we're hearing that it
could affect twenty twenty six as well. Yeah, I think
that this is this is it for Tyreek Hill as
a top level wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Ja sty what'd you think? I know, you've been an
outspoken critic of Tyreek Hill the person off the football field.
What did you think when you saw Tyreek Hill go down?
Speaker 7 (09:40):
So I hated it. You tried to goad me, and
I'm never going to fall for your goating. You know
him a person who doesn't like watching injuries or looking
at injuries. I have yet to see it. I have
created a skill set to somehow not watch sports injuries
(10:00):
that are bad.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
It's like a sixth sense for me. I know it's
going to be seen. I look away, you send me screenshots.
I look away very good at that. I hated seeing it.
I feel bad for him and the Dolphins. That said,
I also think Tyreek Hill represents all almost all of
the worst qualities of a public figure and a professional athlete.
(10:22):
I think he's kind of a despicable person. I think
he's His moral compass is the opposite of what I
would want my child to look up to. When you
saw him being carted off and he was like ear
to ear smiles, my first thought was, he's so excited
that now he's got a little extra time on his
hands to impregnate as many women as he can.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He's like he thought I was going to go to him.
I wasn't going you into watching the video. I was
goading you into tweeting texting something about Karma because you
so despise him as a human being.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Oh okay, I thought that's yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I actually thought that Doug played dirty pool by taking
a screenshot of what it was, because it's kind of
I'm surprised that Jason was able to avoid it.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I was.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
I was not all of a sudden, I was like, wait,
what's this? And then i said, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Oh, there's his knee that that legs turned the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Okay, what about you there? I was Sam.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
I agree with Dan.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
I don't think we're gonna get the twenty twenty three
version of Tyreek Hill ever again, which was his what
first year was it? First year with the Dolphins, he
had like eighteen hundred yards and then last year, of course,
the injury to two oh, he was out a lot,
so his predictive he slipped like you know, to like
half and then this year the injury. Yeah, I just
(11:50):
don't think he's gonna ever have that top line speedback.
How old is Tyrek?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Do we know?
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Is he mid thirties?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Early?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Is not mid thirty mid thirties?
Speaker 8 (11:59):
Someone could check on that. My hands are busy at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
He's only thirty one, But you know he's I think
he'll play, but still yeah, I mean, he's not going
to be the guy we saw at the Chiefs or
the twenty twenty three Miami Dolphin Tyreek Hill probably ever again.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
But you do need a competent court. You need a
quarterback to throw you the ball too.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So what did you guys think of the Tua comments
after the game? For people who missed it, tuas like,
you know, I thank God for keeping all of us
safe for the most part, like it was.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I want to say that, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Like just Tua is so like that's just so automatic
to come out of his mouth that he didn't think
about it until all of a sudden was.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Coming out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
But it did land strangely right where he's thanking God
for keeping them safe when his most talented wide receiver
got carted off with an obvious.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Major leg injury. Did you guys hear the interview at all?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Okay, just we have it.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
We have it right here right.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Okay, Yeah, take a listen. This is this is Tua
after the game.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It belongs to God, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Just want to thank him for this victory, for us,
keeping us safe for the most part when except sit
my wide receiver's leg on was falling off. Thanks for
everybody else being healthy.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
By the way, he took a shot in the game,
I don't know if you guys saw this, but there
was there was I think he had scrambled or something,
took a really big blow and one of I think
it was Orlovsky, like I think this way to I
don't know if you guys think this will it every
time he gets out and scrambles. I cringe because all
it takes is one hit and he took a shot,
(13:48):
and Orlovsky's like, and you forget the fact that he's
got like three or four concussions, And yeah, no, I
never forget that. I always watched that when I watched
to I was. I was at the game with Dan
Bayer last Thursday night, and every time I saw too
a scramble in person, I felt my body tensed up
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
The viewing experience, by the way, last night with the
staggered start was awful because you had two games that
really weren't competitive, and you're guessing on what what you're
trying to watch and win.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I had the I had the two box up with
with YouTube and you neither was It was fine, it
was on.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
I think there are more people like me that had
one TV though, and I think that's the well.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
It's one TV. It's one TV on YouTube TV.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
I mean one screen. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's where
I think. So last night, so you have a game
against with with the Dolphins and Jets that really isn't competitive.
So maybe a flip over to Broncos Bengals and then
you're watching that for a little while. I missed the
injury to Tyree Kill because I was on Broncos Bengals.
(15:00):
I think it was, you know, coming right out a halftime.
I think it was. And so, yeah, so you missed
that portion of it. Then you're kind of toggling back
and forth waiting for something interesting to happen, not necessarily
sure what you're watching.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
I think that for all the people that complain about
the doubleheaders and how late it is, give me that
ten days out of the week than what last night's
stag would start gives you.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, I don't mind the doubleheaders at all. I just
I just don't. I don't know why the NFL does either.
It's more people watching their games. I guess the only
people that would Matt would would be bothered would be
ESPN because it delays when you guess set to Van
Pelt with Sports Center. I can't understand it, you know,
because you have plenty of time in that window and
(15:46):
it becomes a West coast window, and that would have
been a West Coast watch last night.
Speaker 10 (15:49):
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Speaker 3 (16:01):
What of Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
No, uh, Huie can't sing anymore because he can't hear. Right,
if you listening to the podcast, we got a little
Huey Lewis and the news. That's a little bumper music,
you guys from you guys aware of that. He lives
on some spectacular property, I want to say, Montana, but
he can't hear. And so because he can't hear, he
(16:27):
can't he can't hear well, so he can't sing. I
think that's what it is.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Yes, is called a Minere's disease, an inner ear disorder.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's so sad, so sad. Uh. This isn't just a game.
It's a once in a generation event.
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I don't I don't know if it was just a shellacking,
a mismatch, or a bad game, but man, it did
(17:09):
feel like the Bengals looked at looked themselves in the
mirror and thought what we all thought when Joe Burrow
went down.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
When Joe Burrow went down, I think collective we were
all like, yeah, they're kind.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Of done, and you had people going to hold on.
Jake Browning is one of the most respected backups in
the league. He's athletic, he can move, He's been with
the Bengals. He is do you know what he's not.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
He's not Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Factor in that they've had to rebuild their defense and
they were in a tough spot against the Broncos team
that hadn't played terribly well and the Broncos at Homer
way better and their defense is nasty.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Here's Zach Taylor, their head coach. Something got the loss.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
I thought our defense really second half held him scoreless
until really the last drive of the game, and they
did what they could and held him twenty one points.
A good team on the road, and offensively, we're just
not creating enough on them to put points on the board.
Put pressure on the other team. Get up our defensive rest,
pre snapt penalties. As a whole, it's not nearly good enough.
We're a team that should not be having that problem.
(18:11):
We have to get it corrected. We can't. We can't
just hand the other team five yards and put us
behind the eight ball, especially dealing with some of the
stuff we gotta deal with on the road. And so
we gotta get it cleaned up.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, gotta get gotta get cleaned up. That's a classic
coach pick right there. Gotta get cleaned up, Gotta get
cleaned up. We're on to Cincinnati. Wait, you guys are Cincinnati?
Oh my bad, my bet. Yeah, Bengals. They get Detroit
at home, then they got the Packers on the road.
Good luck with that, Good luck with that one. Yeah,
let's go Aheadlet's let's welcome in John Middlecoff three. Now
(18:45):
it's the podcast, of course, the Volume podcast network. When
Tyreek Hill went down with his knee injury, I want, honestly,
what went on through your mind?
Speaker 12 (18:54):
Well, I had on two TVs, so the audio for
the Denver game was on, so I I didn't know
because Wattle kind of looks like that too, and I
kind of looked up last second and I could just
see the small guy there and his leg was pointing
the wrong way. So I didn't know which one of
the two guys it was obviously.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Type it into Twitter really quick, get it fast before.
Speaker 12 (19:15):
They even come back, and you go, that ain't good.
And then once they showed the replay, I mean I
couldn't even look. I mean my first my first response
was one of those guys, one of the two.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Little star receivers.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
Their career is probably over because that it was horrific.
I mean it looked I mean I couldn't rewatch. I
don't know if you did, but it had like an
Alex Smith type.
Speaker 13 (19:37):
Vibe to it.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
No, it was bad. I watched it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I'm one of those and I think you and I
have discussed this before, but I tell this to there's
three types of people in this world. Type one, I
don't want to see it. I won't look at it,
don't show it to me, no, thank you. Type two,
I just want to see it once, maybe even a
still picture, just so I know what everybody's talking about.
There's type three, where I can't see it enough.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Where do you fall?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I'm three?
Speaker 12 (20:03):
Three, I think I used to be three, and I
still him three with some stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Yeah, but I do think with injuries, I maybe I've changed.
Speaker 12 (20:13):
Maybe it's maybe it's maturity. I don't know, injuries aren't
with sports, but well, who was the dude for Louisville
that shattered his leg or you know, Paul George. I
mean that was like my prime of being a number three.
I could watch those over and over. But now, oh,
I mean it's I mean, are you are we in
agreement that this is I mean, it's gonna be pretty
(20:33):
tough for guy that's games predicated on being the fastest
player like in the league. Uh, to continue a career.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
One would think that, right, miracles of medical science. Who
knows what happens? Is there any world where the Dolphins
are a better team.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Because of it?
Speaker 12 (20:50):
I actually, once Waller started making plays, I thought the
way I talk about the Dolphins, you know, to uh listen,
he's kind of a punching bag. But relative to most quarterbacks,
I mean, he's better than fifteen of them. He's just
not anywhere near the top six or seven. But like
on a sunny day or good weather day like they
had last night, if he's got weapons and a good team,
(21:12):
you can win nineteen games. And I'm watching Waller waddle
until I go this is this team is not sniffing
the number one overall pick. Now they're not gonna make
the playoffs, but they're gonna be. You're gonna look up
and it's like the Dolphins are drafting thirteenth like that.
They were gonna win like six games with that. With
that up, I mean, they played the Jets twice, that's two.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
They played the Panthers next week, that's three. Now, I
still think there will be decently.
Speaker 12 (21:34):
I still like him against the Panthers, but that probably
cost him a win or two, just because the little
easier now with just the one wide receiver, not to
and even Ahan, I mean, to me, the story of
that game, God, and I would say.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
This about Pete Carroll too.
Speaker 12 (21:49):
You go to the Jets and you go to the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
It's hard, man, it really is.
Speaker 12 (21:55):
And obviously you know the Raiders got new people, they
got Count Brady, the Jets new people, new energy.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
It's it's just something.
Speaker 12 (22:02):
About I don't know, it's like in the air because
you'd be like, well, what about Horrorball and the Chargers, Like,
I don't know. The Charge has been mainly good most
of my life, so I mean not like Super Bowl good,
but they sure won a lot of games most years,
and even their bad teams win like seven eight games.
You know, you just watch Pete Carroll and you watch
Aaron Glenn. I mean, I thought what Aaron Glenn did
(22:22):
last year with like me and you playing defense, that
was incredible because like this was of the greatest things
I've ever seen.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
They had nobody.
Speaker 12 (22:28):
Their entire team was hurt and they were snow playing
hard and you can just see it on its face.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
It's like same old Jets.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
What's wrong with the with the Ravens.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Well, their entire defense is hurt.
Speaker 12 (22:40):
And you know one thing that you know, because Josh
and Lamar are talked about, you know, synonymously a lot. Right,
let's face the Bill's defense for the most part has
not been good over the last five or six years
relative to the elite defense. Lamar went to a place
that I don't know. It was like basically Steelers two
point zher just known as a defensive franchise, and now
(23:03):
they're basically the Bengals on defense. So it's like the
the the margin Ferrara on offense, Like we it's like
what the Lions did at the end of the season.
You better be scoring thirty five minimum every game.
Speaker 13 (23:16):
You got no shots like that.
Speaker 12 (23:17):
That's just that's what you're that's you're Thurrow dealt with
that last year.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
And that's this team.
Speaker 12 (23:22):
I mean, Matta Bouque gone then, always been hurt. Rokuan
is out. Now Humphrey who last year was like the
catalysts when their defense was sucking early and then they
flipped him, they kind of moved him on defense and
then their defense was good again, and now he's out.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Like I just think that this.
Speaker 12 (23:43):
Might be they got a little forty nine or vibe
of last year. It's like, you know, we're gonna look
up and they're gonna be six and eleven. You just
can't overcome that many injuries.
Speaker 13 (23:51):
I don't care what the logo.
Speaker 12 (23:53):
On the side of your helmet is. And even with Lamar,
because they were offense, they blow people out, but they
smother you in the second half, like busting huge runs. Right,
It's not like, you know, they're the twenty eighteen Chiefs
throwing bombs. So the way they've blown a lot of
people out in the half, it's a little different than
like some of these other teams. And I do wonder
(24:15):
if it's gonna really just it's gonna it's clearly throwing
them off because they look terrible.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
John Mittalcoff's our guest sting Ounce the podcast. You can
listen to that podcast in the Volume podcast network. This
is the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
let's let's let's go around the league a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Have you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I can't figure out who to blame on that Colts
fumble and if he was I feel like that the
Colts fumble and the incomplete pass at the end of
the Florida State game.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I don't know if you saw that game are the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Which those those guys are taught to always like at
the end, just tuck the ball. I tucked the ball,
and they tried to tuck it and when they move, oh,
that's when they lose the ball. Like I'm watching the
run in Indy actually was in l A against the Rams.
That was incredible run, incredible touchdown, but it turned around
the entire game when he fumbled it through.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The end zone.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (25:14):
I mean, I've never had an issue with that rule.
I thought it was pretty bang bang too. Like watching it,
I'm just actually just pulled it up because I wanted
to watch it again. I thought to play where Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I mean, the thing if you're the Colts you feel.
Speaker 12 (25:27):
Good is I think Jonathan Taylor has been through the.
Speaker 13 (25:30):
First four games like a top five non quarterback in
the league as a skill guy.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Dean looks dominant. Yeah, and that run.
Speaker 12 (25:38):
One thing you see And this is where the you know,
the defensive coaches, did you think it was that egregious
of a old no? You know, and it's like, I
try to lean the defense, you know, give him a
little bit of grace because it's hard to it's hard
to play defense. It's hard to coach defense. Now the
rules are against you and some of these penalties, and
(25:58):
I think it happens a lot to take attack on
defensive holding.
Speaker 13 (26:02):
But that was like, I mean, I thought that negated.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
I don't know, like one of the plays of the day.
Speaker 12 (26:06):
I mean, he's like he looked like Ashton Genty looked,
but even way better, like spinning through the tackle.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I'm still I like I like the Donnie.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
Mitchell a lot in college.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
I like, halfway through that game.
Speaker 12 (26:19):
I remember I was just kind of taking notes on
the NFL Sunday. One of the things I wrote is like,
I think the culture for real, I know they ended
up losing that game. Obviously, Staffords isn't playing great. I mean,
clearly the Rams are really good, but a couple.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Of freak things.
Speaker 12 (26:33):
I'm pretty bullish on the Colts, like I think they're
a twelve thirteen win team.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
You know, throughout the season, something weird happens.
Speaker 12 (26:40):
But I think it was more just like those two
plays and more of an outlier thing.
Speaker 13 (26:43):
I think they're gonna be fine because I think Dan.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Jones looks good.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Was it that Minnesota's all banged up or are they
getting better?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Well?
Speaker 12 (26:54):
I think TJ flip the switch the last couple of weeks.
He looks a little bit better, and he's the heart
feat of the squad, so when he goes, they feel
more physical on defense. Now you get your backup quarterback
in there. Like to me, a backup quarterback wins two
games total.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
He's underpaid.
Speaker 13 (27:12):
I think you and I have talked about this.
Speaker 12 (27:13):
So every game the backup quarterback goes, and even Carson
Wentz doesn't look terrible, it's just.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Not the same.
Speaker 12 (27:18):
Now you can argue, we don't even know if JJ
the starting quarterback, is good. But their offensive line they
got injuries again, it's kind of running for his life.
It's why Like this week, one of my favorite best
of the week is the Browns to make this very.
Speaker 13 (27:31):
Interesting against Minnesota.
Speaker 12 (27:32):
How are they going to block Miles Garrett in that front?
Mason Grant, Like, the Browns defense is good and their
front is good, they could be a major, major problem.
So the Steelers are in pretty good shape right now.
Right you got the Browns we know are terrible. That
the Bengals, I mean, just got no shot, but they
couldn't block me or you. And the Ravens just have
(27:53):
so many injuries and they're one and three that even
if they battle back, like getting the nine wins feel
like a miracle this.
Speaker 13 (28:00):
Point in time.
Speaker 12 (28:00):
So I think the Feelers, you just got to keep
Rogers up right, and I don't see.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Now when things can change. He can get hurt.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
That to me is the big wildcard with him. Like,
if you tell me Rogers plays seventeen games, I don't
see how they don't win the division.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so
I'm reading several reports that the Browns look like they're
going to make a quarterback change and it's going to
be Dylan Gabriel. What do you make of the pace
of this change like to be made?
Speaker 12 (28:34):
Well, I mean, I think we kind of knew when
Flacco was signed to this god awful team that he,
you know what, was the over under of games who
was going to start because they weren't going to win
many games. But this is also like going back to
that story a couple of weeks ago. I'm pretty sure
me and you talked about it with Dion saying about
like I didn't.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Get better on the stanch Bold.
Speaker 12 (28:54):
Yeah, Deon, You've never been on the bench in your
entire light. It's like Shador Sanders. Like I was watching
the Ravens game and the backup came in to start
the fourth quarter. I mean, he would have got reps
in that game, and they drafted a guy you said
you don't want to go to these teams. You could
have been the backup quarterback. You're not even the backup here.
So uh, I think the coaches like Dylan Gabriel. Here's
(29:14):
the thing, if Dylan Gabriel shows any signs of life,
he's gonna get a very long rope because that's who
the head coach and who's also the play caller and
also the quarterback guy clearly likes.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, I think otherwise they want to draft they drafted him.
Speaker 12 (29:30):
You know what's gonna be sad though, Like everyone on
social media, it's like everyone's gonna be rooting against Dylan
Gabriel Like, guys, you might want to google this kid.
He dominated Oklahoma, then he went to Oregon dominated more.
Like this guy's not coming from UC.
Speaker 13 (29:44):
Davis, Like check his resumes.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
It's not bad.
Speaker 12 (29:46):
I know he's small and listen, I don't I didn't
even like him as an NFL prospect, but I do
think the way we talk about him was like, yeah,
they just found this guy in like D three. Like, guys,
he was a starting quarterback last year at Oregon, Like
that was him, you know the guy that we just
watched Dee Penn State more. He was his backup. You know,
there's no like sitout of rules, Like if he would
have beat him out, they could have gone with him,
(30:08):
but he couldn't. Like Dylan Gabriels. I mean, there's a
reason some of these coaches like him, even if I
technically don't.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Really why are the Packers better?
Speaker 12 (30:20):
I give you a pass on the Browns game, right,
you're on the road. The defense is good, but you
gotta when I give you a pass meeting play a
bad game, but you gotta win.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
You can't lose.
Speaker 12 (30:31):
You got to win that thing ten to three or
thirteen to ten or whatever.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
You just get a win. Get out.
Speaker 12 (30:36):
Last game's embarrassing. I know they got injuries, but I
do think it's an indictment on by de Parsons. You
trade two first round picks, you give the guy one
hundred and ninety million dollars, Like that's the type game
in their prime, Aaron Donald, Khalil Mack JJ Watt would
have been like, Okay, what am I doing? Four sacks,
a strip, bumble tipped interception. I'm taking this all the
(30:57):
great players, I mean me and you have been watching
football forever, going back to the nineties. So Reggie White,
you name it, like there's a weird game, our defense
not playing well, I'm going to take this thing over.
And it's like he's going up against a player.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Who's this guy back up left hand? Like who's he playing?
Speaker 12 (31:15):
And beside the one play that he made at the
end of the game, which is a chase down tackle,
which is great, but it's like that they needed him
in that because the offense was doing their part right.
Offense is lightening up the scoreboards. Defense is and shambles,
but they do have one inspired, great player who's definitely
paid forty seven million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
And it's like, I just needed more. You know.
Speaker 12 (31:36):
The cowboys on defense don't have more to give. But
you get Micah Parsons like and he'd be like, well
he heard his back in the middle of the game.
Well he made the play on Dak what was like
in overtime? So he clearly was Okay, I think you're
a little like, hey man, and I can't imagine this
is like a goodh Kin slash laforward, things like we
(31:56):
need you to take over.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 12 (31:58):
You know, a lot of wise men said money doesn't
change who you are, Like he is that point, like,
this is who Mike is. You're not getting Reggie Wider
Lawrence Taylor in your prize. So maybe it's that's just
what he's gonna do. He's gonna have some good games,
some okay games.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
He's not like, uh, you know ray Lewis or something.
This isn't you know. I know the media annointed him,
but I.
Speaker 12 (32:19):
Don't think very talented player, but I don't think when
it's all sudden done people it's one of the greatest
players of all time.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I don't think he's there, but I do think
he's very talented, plays hard. It just defies logic. Two
Blackfield goals two weeks in a row.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Uh, sort of sleep at the wheel with it.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
Threw my premise that they needed, like that was a
game for him to like get get three sacks.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Something happened.
Speaker 12 (32:43):
Yes, yes, no question, the Special teams.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I mean, you know, Rich got elevated.
Speaker 12 (32:50):
People love Rich Measascia right, Gruden forever, But you just
watch the Special teams to like that.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Does anyone know what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
No? No, Hey, Johnny, great stuff. Thanks so much for
joining us.
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(33:31):
game with Dan Bayer.
Speaker 10 (33:32):
Dan, this is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
All right, Doug, the game today is rank up. All right, Doug,
rank your top three teams in the NFL through four
weeks of the season.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Bill Eagles, Bill's Eagles, Bills Eagles.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Oh this is hard. Now it gets difficult.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's interesting.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I have a nomination, but I don't know if Sam's
got to use it in Tuesday after the morning quarterback.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
In the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, what is it? Well?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I think the Rams have a pretty good case of
being number three.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, lost the Eagles on a blackfield goal. Could have
won that easily. Go to won that game.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, I'll go with that. I'm going with that Rams.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
A reason I didn't say charges is the injuries are
just piling up, and I don't think I think if
they were healthy, i'd have no problem.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But they are not healthy. That's why they lost that game.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Yeah, it's not why like we look at their schedule
and thought the division games early on could be something negative.
They go three at zero and now you're going to
be shorthanded for a little while. So maybe it's good
to get those in the bank.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
Can we still need a fourth team? Three teams? Sorry,
three teams.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's through week four, So I was going.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
To nominate the Lions. They were probably one of the
better teams, right and.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Maybe maybe you'll talk about the Lions and Tuesday morning
quarterback in the afternoon coming up, Doug, rank your three
NFL teams that you're selling your stock on right now
through four weeks.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Selling stocks. I had to own stock in them to
begin with.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Right, yeah, yeah, who aren't you buying anymore?
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Not buying the Ravens. Not buying the Ravens just again,
injuries are piling up. Not buying the Vikings, yep, And
(35:41):
I'm not buying hey, hey, I'm not buying the Texans.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
One of three on the season is Houston. Doug, rank
your top three teams in college football? Oh, oh Oregan
With that.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Big win at end State, maybe they cracked the top three.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yes, for sure, Ohio State, Oregon. And I'm gonna go
with little Miss all right, We've got to point out,
you know, Miami two big wins in a row, so
doing well and the big window start the season.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
It's all right, I was like the last one one
that's kind of outside the box. Sure, maybe they're not three,
but you at least want to give them recognition. Bingo,
all right, rank the uh? Rank your top three Syracuse hoopers.
You know, yeah, yeah, we've got the news of Lawrence
Molten's passing. But your top three favorite Syracuse Hoopers.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I'll do poetry. And Moten is three because he died
today and he was super smooth. Sherman Douglas at two,
and Pearl Washington and one.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Oh my god, I go DC. I'm gonna DC top
my list goes.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I love DC, but I mean Pearl and and Sherman
Douglas I like idolized as a kid, and they were
guards and my dad was in New York City point guard.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So that's where it comes from.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
All right, Mellow didn't even make the list.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
No, I know it's dismissive, but there is a national championship.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
No question, that's great. He was there for like five minutes.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And that's game time.
Speaker 10 (37:25):
Game this is game time. On the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Cut up in the dug Gottlieb Show. What's the one
thing not covered yesterday that's driving you crazy?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Well, we won't try to be crazy. Tuesday Morning Quarterback,
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