June 6, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug reacts to Game 1 of the NBA Finals and breaks down how the Pacers were able to stage the late comeback leading to Tyrese Haliburton's go-ahead basket. Former NBA C Ryan Hollins joins Doug to give his thoughts on the Knicks' interest in Jason Kidd for their head coaching vacancy. Plus, what old QB looked the weirdest in their new uniforms?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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You're welcome, Mega THG you you, thank you, Welcome in.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's a Friday and I'm working with geniuses. No, I
mean it, We'll play for you. The genius that is
Dan Byer with the completely accurate prediction of the end
of Game one of the NBA Finals upcoming. What a game,
what a life? Right? I was watching the last night's game,
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and it's kind of fascinating to watch right where you're
you're watching and you're like, it's not really that close
a basketball game. But the the Pacers, here's the cliche.
They do what they do, right. That's like the worst
worst cliche ever, But in this particular case, it actually
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makes sense they do what they do. The other thing
that's crazy about the game is that Tyrese Haliburton he's
just kind of a guy. Most of the game, he
really didn't do much. But then he hits the game winner,
and holy cow, Tyrese Halliburton, Oh my goodness, what are
we gonna do there? The final score is one eleven
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to one ten. Haliburton hits the game winner with point
three seconds to go as they rallied from were they
down fifteen in the fourth quarter. It's craziness, craziness. Here's
what I want to do. Like we can do the
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formatic radio show, or I Killed the Grass with the
big hot take and then we take calls or something,
or we can just talk. I'll give you something I
saw that's kind of interesting here. Okay, so I love
Alex Crusoe. We do know why Alex Crusoe has bounced
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around the league and had to earn his way into
league from the G League before becoming such a gigantic
part of the Oklahoma City Thunder. It's it's like the
do you remember what election was? It was it when
Clinton won where it's it's the economy stupid? Right When
when George H. W. Bush lost to Bill Clinton, the
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line was it's the economy stupid. Like to me, it's
the it's the shooting stupid right that as much as
he's become a consummate professional, a very good shoot, a
very good player, he checks back into the game for
Cason Wallace ninety four, ninety nine, ninety four, ninety nine.
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But Caruso missing two threes late in the game that
kind of triggered the run. Triggered the run was he
missed two open threes, and Alex and then lou Dort
missed one late, and you're like, why does it matter
that Crusoe misses two threes? Why does it matter that
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lou Dort misses misses a three late? Because those are
your worst shooters. And in trying to figure out, okay,
how did this happen, How did they make all these shots,
how did they score? Et cetera. Think about the comeback, right,
You had Pascal Siakam, he had two different trips to
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the free through line he made three out of four.
You had Andrew Nebhart making a three. Uh, you had
Miles Turner making threes. You had Obi Toppin making threes. Now,
it doesn't mean that Obi Toppin is a is a
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great shooter. Doesn't mean Miles Turner is a great shooter.
But that's what they have molded their NBA careers into.
They have improved dramatically. Turner has always been a good shooter,
made himself into a forty percent three point shooter, right
Aaron Nay Smith forty nine and a half percent three
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point shooter. Toppin's only at thirty four, but he was
running a fever last night. And the big story to
me is that they got Oklahoma City to have their
non shooters shoot, and they came down and smartly made
threes late, and they had one put back and a
couple of free throws late as well. In other words,
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perfect analytics basketball up until that last kind of pull
up jump shot. But doesn't really matter, Hey, tremendous analytics
basketball at both ends, making the sub thirty five three
point shooters shoot and not allowing shots at the rim
only two's after the non shooter shooting to three and
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then taking threes and layups yourself. But I mean that
one was weird because that one seemed another one seemed over,
and even the Oklahoma City crowd like wasn't freaking out,
And then it happened so fast, bang bang bang bang bang,
topping with a bunch of threes, Miles Turner a couple
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of threes, and all of a sudden you're like, that's
getting kind of close. And then lou Dort fires off
when it misses and they come down and another one.
You're like, oh my gosh, we have ourselves a game bayer.
You will play it for people. We put it on
social media. You literally predicted this thing, like to the
t on what could or would happen with the Pacers
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having a lead late When I say game one NBA Finals,
what's the first thing that comes to your mind as
to what you actually saw.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, it was the Pacers doing it again. And you
try to find points in the game, Doug where you're like, Okay,
this is where it turned.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
That's where it turned.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I'm a big fan of the twelve point lead because
it's never as big as you think, and it's never
as small as you think, because sure of the three
point shot, you could be at eighteen and you know,
two possessions and it gave me down to a six
point game and the same sort of breath. But we
were hovering around that area. So the nine point lead
at that three minute mark was big, and again three
point shot. Nie Smith hits it, and now it's a
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six point game and it's a close game.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Throw out.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
The crazy part that I thought what was was big
You mentioned Caruso. Remember at the end of the first half,
Caruso had a shot at the buck at the right
at the bucket and it didn't go down, but they
still led by twelve. But that was a half where
the Pacers had nineteen turnovers and they only led by twelve,
Like Indiana was only down at that point. And it's
at that point that I'm thinking to myself, well, this
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is still a ballgame if Indiana just decides to hold
on to the basketball. And the reason why yesterday I
said what I said was because I felt that that
is the turning point of it. If you navigate that
stretch the final six minutes in you're Oklahoma City, You're
You're in a really, really good spot. No, not only
are the overwhelming favorite, but you have done something that
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the other teams have not been able to do when
they faced Indiana. But if Indiana does it now, I
feel that the series has turned. Because you can look
at all the bad things that Indiana did in Game
one and said, wow, they still were able to come
in and steal it. So that's why the stretch, it
just felt, was so important because it just felt like
a tone setter for the series that it's going to
go one way or the other. Either Oklahoma City is
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going to end the Pacers' streak of comebacks and kind
of right or wrong of their own from what happened
in the Denver series, or now Indiana is fully into
the series with a legit chance to bring home the
NBA title.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Hmm Yeah. This is one where I can never understand
nor any of us can, the mentality of each individual team.
I do think that for the Pacers moving forward, their
thought process has to be we could not have played
any worse than the first half. We played fine the
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second half, and then we caught a heater and we
did we did, we came back and win the game.
Imagine what happens if we actually play a good first half.
I could clean first half mm hm. For Oklahoma City again,
you would think the thought processes which you want positive is,
hey man, we were up nineteen, like we're the better team.
All we gotta do is just step on their throat
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next time. On the other hand, there's never going to
be a part in the game where you're looking up
at the lead thinking we're good, right, it's just never
like we did, never, never good. And as much as
you can say, well, hey, maybe that makes Oklahoma City
a young team, step on their throat and make a
fifteen point game a thirty point game next time. Maybe,
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or maybe you're up that magic number of twelve what
you're talking about, and Nie Smith hits a three and
all of a sudden, Diagno's going to take quick time
out and they kind of start freaking out and get tight.
But none of us know what's gonna happen. We just know,
like psychologically, it could literally go either way. And that's why.
And I know Jay's off, He's up hiking in Big
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Bear today. Jay's two. But that's why he hates the
stupid prediction game because you can't tell the mentality. You
can't tell how one ball goes in what doesn't go in.
But I have to tell you that that was one
of the most thrilling endings. Look, every part of me
should want Oklahoma City to win, just again, as you
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guys know, my kids all live in Oklahoma now right.
I'm close with some people in that organization. I know
people in the Pacers organization too. I think it'd just
be great for the city, great for the organist, and
the people I know in the organization tell me that
the people above them in the organization are all like
great people, like there's just no bs to them. I
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like everything about it. So my ties should be to
Oklahoma City. But watching a team kind of methodically, not
freak out, not panic, hit a three, you get a
stop at a three, you get a stop at a three,
you get a stop, And then watching that crowd get tight,
watching the thunder get tight, watching the officiating get to
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be totally even right, that's a big thing. Like it
got cut to six and Shay got kind of a
he got one of those free through merchant Foulsy's like,
all right, they're gonna give him a couple of calls
to get him. But that was the last call he got.
Then the next two pull up jump shots he got
nothing on normally regular season get called a foul and
it was not. And that was one of the most
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thrilling comeback wins I can think of. In the NBA Finals,
and again I end up rooting for the Pacers, only
not because of the contrarian to me, But I just
I appreciate how hard it is what they've been doing,
and how smartly they execute what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And I would even say that the comebacks that they
had in the other games were more miraculous than this
one was, because this was this was closer than over
the final ninety seconds to two minutes than it was,
say in the Cleveland series or in the Bucks series,
where the Thunder did have to make plays. They didn't
make a bucket for the final ninety seconds of the game.
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You like, there's a there's another one for Oklahoma City,
and you wonder, now how that creeps in?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
What Jalen Williams too big, too big missus. They're late,
right And as as he goes, so goes to Thunder. Obviously,
Shane misses what could have been the game Seiler could
have put them up up three. Here's Tyrese Halliburton on
how his team performed overall this game.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
If you look at all the numbers, it's not the
recipe to win. We can't turn the ball over that much.
We got to do a better job of beating gaps,
gotta do better job of rebounding, You gotta do a
better job all over the floor. But come May in June,
it doesn't matter how you get him, just get him,
you know. So we'll take it. You know, we'll enjoy
this one tonight. But don't understand, we got another game
coming up in this tough building and we got to
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be prepared for that. So, like I said, we're just
a confident group. We got eachiller's back.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Here's the league's MVP. And how the Thunder ended up losing.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I don't know. It happened so fast. I feel like
we got matched. He got down going right, pulled up
from MIDI and knocked down the shot. I don't know.
It didn't feel like anything crazy. He just he just
made a play. With the time winding down, we had
control of the game for the most part of it.
Now it is a forty eight minute game, and they
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teach you that lesson more than anyone else in the
league the hard way.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
He's right, It does go fast, and then you know,
Indiana doesn't call time out in the last possession, so
oftentimes NBA teams have I've been in that situation and
I've had the opposite thing happen right where you don't
call time out, just let him go make a play like,
oh man, should I have called the timeout or not? There? Ah,
just dying over it, but it does. It happens really fast.
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He hit three, You're like, all right, it's nine. Then
you missed it, sh out and they hit three, Like okay,
it's six. That that happened fast. They eat the fat line.
You're like, oh, okay, it's eight. Then he hit it
three and it's five. Like whoa, whoa, what what happened?
Now we're in a game. Happened so fast? So fast?
And I love what Halburton said. He's basically like, we
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didn't really play well enough to win, but that matter,
which to Dan, you're my point, which is like, Indiana's
got to be sitting there thinking, imagine if we actually
played well, you know, we won a game on their
home court and we were do do for the first
twenty four minutes.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, and it's selling to pacers are without faults because
that is one of their faults defensively as well. They yeah, yeah,
I mean they haven't been as strong, but boy, last
night it sure came through and they needed to. The
nineteen first half turnovers is absurd. Was it to only
be down twelve at that point?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, yeah, And that's one of the reasons though that again,
you know thunderplay. Both teams play a lot of guys.
I thought it hurt both teams playing a lot of guys.
I thought of Oklahoma City would have played a little
bit more of a condensed rotation last night. They could
have maybe stepped on the throat of the Pacers in
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Rebound Indiana. Eight seconds to go. The Pacers are not
gonna call a time out. Paddleburton has it with three driving,
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with two pulling.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Up and heading with three tenths of a second to go.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
How many more times can this team do that?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Soweets babies? Have you have you seen the Haliban tweets
out there? Have you seen those? You see it? Those
are amazing and it's like I will, I refuse to
be the guy who gets offended right because anything Taliban
related whatever, like we're supposed to. But it's so good
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and so funny that I gotta tell people, if you're
bothered by it, then you know what, just stay out
of this one. We're all gonna have a good time
and enjoy basketball and understand it's not that deep. Coming
up next to The Doug Gottlieb Show, we'll dive more
in the NBA Finals with Ryan Hollins. He'll join us.
Plus wait to you then, who the Knicks want to
talk to in regards to their coaching vacancy. That's next.
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Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be
sure to catch us live every weekday three to five
Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your
local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports
Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on
the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR Doug Gottlieb Show. You're
on Fox Sports Radio. So I saw this story. I
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thought it was interesting that Jason Kidd is going to
get interviewed by the Knicks. Now what happens. Is this
from Mark Stein And as you know, Mark joins us
on the show on a weekly basis, And if you
want to read Mark's substack, go ahead and find the steinline.
But he said the New York Knicks are expected to
formally ask permission to speak with Dallas Maverick's coach, Chasing
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Kidd about their coaching vacancy in the coming days. League
sources say Ian Begley, Ima Udoka, Chris Finch and Jason
Kidd are among the coaches currently under contract who the
Knicks have degrees of interest in. Remember, just because you're
speaking to a coach doesn't mean you're going to hire him.
And the one thing he doesn't have is a is
a defined relationship with Leon Rose. Of course, wasn't his agent.
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Aaron Goodwin was his agent when he was a player.
So but when he became the nets head coach fresh
off of being a player, his last team he played
for was the New York Knicks. And now of course
he's gone. You know, he went to several other teams,
took the Mavericks to the finals. And as I told you,
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I don't think you can fire Tom Thibodeau because of
his shortcomings or perceived shortcomings for a team in the
playoffs to get to the finals, something he's never done
as a head coach, and not hire a head coach
who hasn't been past the Eastern Conference finals. That's why
to me, jeff En Gutty makes sense. That's why to me,
Jason Kidd might even make a little sense. And I
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know that Jay Wright hasn't been past them in the NBA,
but winning two championships, being the three final fours, widely
considered one of the great coaches of college basketball. Also
a guy who doesn't make it about himself, which is
one of the big things that NBA coaches can't do,
make it about themselves. I think those are the real candidates,
real candidates. Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb Show podcast.
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Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three
to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
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It's Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Hollins is our guest course
you've heard him on weekends with Dan Byer, you've heard
him on this show with Dan Byer filling in for me.
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He's an NBA VET, he's our Fox Sports Radio NBA
analyst Ryan. What did we just watch last night?
Speaker 7 (18:58):
And this is something that halla Burton it has been
doing all playoffs long. I think, Doug, it's time for
us to start believing in what goes on. And Doug,
we've talked about this on the show and you almost
saw the script is playing out. Indiana executes for four quarters.
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The rest of the NBA probably three quarters, and then
you put the ball in the hands of your best player.
But they just truly believe and it's tough. And what
you're seeing is SGA one on one, SGA one on one.
Hopefully we get to steal. Hopefully we created deflection, and
that's going against Indiana. Pick and roll ball moment, second side,
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pick and roll attack, drawn kick three three three, and
once Indiana starts hitting threes, now the game confidence offensively
and the scape part. Doug, I don't know how you
feel about this. The fact that Indy turned the ball
over so much in the first half, and the fact
that the thunder didn't win that game, you got be
shaken in your boots.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We just discussed this, like the Pacers have to be
sitting there going. We played poorly for two thirds of
the game, definitely half of the game played poorly and
yet still end up winning a game, and we did
so on the road. Imagine what happens when we just
play average in the first half. What about the What
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about the Oklahoma City Thunder? How hard is it going
to be for them to convince themselves? Hey, guys, we
were up nineteen, like we had. We had a double
digit lead late in the fourth quarter. But again, that's
really hard to convince yourself when that league evaporated in
the last two minutes.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Yug. I think the biggest problem for Oklahoma City is
trying to match up with Indiana, and I think they've
got to be the best versions of themselves. If it's
Shay shooting the ball fifty times, you go big, You
just attack the glass and muddy the game up and
make it really physical. That's what it's going to have
to be. But you go small with Cason Wallace and
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you try to match up with the three point shooting,
and your advantage, in my opinion, is chet Holmgren blocking shots,
and then you know looking inside the paint and you
know Hartenstein hitting the glass, creating second chance opportunities him
and pick and roll him, and you know DHL actions
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like I think you kind of got away from what
you've done in Hartenstein. You can argue, you know, he'd
been the best Thunder member outside of Shade, you know,
the most reliable at least in many of these opportunities.
So I think you got to be the best version
of yourself. And I didn't like trying to match up
with Indy because you're not going to out Indy Indy.
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I don't. I don't know if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Do No, it does? It does? Yeah, I completely completely understand.
I thought, again, and maybe this is too deep into
basketball talk for other people. Here we go, Jayla Williams
too big, missus late okay, but also lou Dort shooting
three late, Caruso two wide open threes late. You mentioned
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the execution again, it's not just in what you execute,
but it's the Pacers had their shooters shooting threes and
the Thunder had their non shooters. I'm talking about lou
Dort and Crusoe shooting those three threets late. How big
a factor is that in the overall scheme of things.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
It's huge. And that's why I said, you know, that's
by designing. We're going boxes and elbows on Shay and
we're gonna come out with a good contest on the three,
and we're gonna live with those guys. Are they capable shooters? Yes,
but you know who I trust, Nie Smith, nim Hard
Siakam with those same shots. So it's gonna be my
offense for your offense. And can those guys shoot, Yeah,
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of course they can. But with Indy, they just trust
the ball movement and they move the ball better than
anybody in the NBA right now. They play as a
team and they're not horrific defensively. So if you're in
the locker room, Doug, like you're saying like, don't turn
the basketball over, like, don't give them any light, don't
turn the ball over. Be strong with the catch. And
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I tell you one thing, like since the days of
Durant and Westbrook being there, when I played against those
guys with the Clippers and whoever, Oklahoma City's a tough
place to play. So when you talk about having to
pahonas to hit that shot to go get it, and
Rick carl Out doesn't go time out, and Halibert it's
that dude. It doesn't get any more deflating. And I've
(23:41):
been calling this, but I'm shocked. They just they just
cut down like that against the man you talk about
just deflating.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Dug gotta be incredibly inflating. Doug Otlibs show here on
Fox Sports, Tralier, let's talk to some other NBA news
in your mind, who's the best fit for the Knicks.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I'm shocked. I think Jason Kidd because he's a former Nick,
He's gonna have to be on the table. I guess
they got permission to talk to him. You got to
bring in the name, dude, because that's all that is
all the It's the most pressured job outside of being
the Lakers head coach in the world. You know, you
got a little excuse maybe if you're coaching Lebron that
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you can say, hey, Lebron's smart enough, he's gonna do
his deal. You know, there's not much I'm gonna be
able to fine tune. But that's a lot of pressure.
You got to get a veteran coach, You got to
get somebody you know, willing to step in and you know,
win now. But I'm still just blown away that they
got rid of TIBs. And I think, Doug, in my opinion,
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it's unless there's something that I don't know. I think
you send the wrong message of basketball that you can
have the best season that New York has had in decades.
You can lead this team, you can improve, you get
guys to believe, and then we fire you when we
say somehow to your faull, somehow we need to strive
something different. And I can acknowledge something needs to change,
(25:05):
but I don't see that being Tom Thibodeau called me crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, I'm with you, but that that was how the
decision was made. And you just sit there scratching your
head like are you are? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Minnesota Timberwolves, we hadn't tuks and stay lost. There's a
lot of people like, hey, you need to make Anthony
Edwards be able to score out of the post. And
I've heard lots of suggestions you didn't just play in
the NBA. You cover it with the with the Rockets
as well as for us here in Fox Sports Radio.
If you were running the Minnesota Timberwolves. What would you
do to take that next step?
Speaker 7 (25:44):
I teach it how to play pick and roll. I
take a page out of Luca Dacic to Lebron's book
James Harden, and I teach him how to hay like, Hey,
that's the that that power for in the corner. That's
the mismatch you want. Bring him into action because they
can't switch. You're too good offensively and play with your bigs.
Learn how to play with Rudy Gobert. It's probably disgusting
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the lack of assists that he has to Rudy Gobert.
Rudy Gobert is one of the better screen setters that
we've had in the NBA. Screen assists but it means
when he sets the screen, you get a good shot
or he ends up getting a wide open dunk. When
he learns how to play with Rudy, when he learns
how to play with his bigs, when he learns how
to pick out the mismatch on the floor and call
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those guys in a pick and roll, you're gonna see
Anthony Edwards game take leaps and bounds. I do agree
with the posts efficiency in action. He's so good he
can get to a spot, pull up and shoot right
over you. But I think the patience who's going to
have to be there, And I think as he takes
those leaps, I don't think it's necessarily spreading the floor
with the guy who can create of n over contested shot.
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I believe that you play with two bigs. I think
you get in another big, another shot block or another
kind of spore inside with size to where they sure
up the paint, and you allow him as a volume
shooter to go make some missus. Just talk with McIntyre
on Collins Show, and I said, not playing Chet and
Hartenstein was the silliest thing Oklahoma City could have done
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because you got a volume sport in Shae Gilgis Alexander.
At least you can command the paint. Maybe you get
more offensive rebounding opportunities in your limp is what makes
you different than Indy. So I think my challenge with
Minnesota is to play bigger and learn how to play
pick and roll. But in that process, you hit the
heck out of the glass and you give him more shots.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Hollins
is our guest Ryan's Jannis. What do you think he
plays next year?
Speaker 7 (27:50):
I think for Giannis and I'm pretty sure they're gonna
look to work with him. I think he's gotta look
and he's gotta try to one get to a bit
market and then he's got to have a chance to
go out and win. And for Milwaukee, you know what,
they're going to be greedy. They're going to be like
man Dami and Little is going to be out next season.
(28:11):
We need all the youth, all the picks that we
can get ultimately at the end of the day, So
the largest market team that can bring that to the table,
I think you got to be excited. And I think
if there's enough chemistry there, it could be san Antonio.
I think we'd like that to see him and Wimby.
But I don't know if Giannas want to be san
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Antonio because the one thing we've heard from him is
that I want to go to a large city, you know,
I want to have a chance to shine as the
other superstars in the NBA. Do you saw the news
about the Knicks willing to throw everything at him, And
I think if you're the Knicks, you kind of have
to because if you're getting rid of tives. That means
you're willing to move forward in the direction and have
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a superstar and a guy to build around, So that
could be a move. I don't know if Milwaukee wants
to rebuild, they want to, you know, try to step
into another forty or fifty win season. Ultimately, at the
end of the day, you know, we've seen different teams
go different ways. If it's a Clippers, you know, in
a large market, they know there's a chance and to
(29:13):
pall for him to want to be there. And I
think Houston from a talent perspective and youth and kind
of win now would probably be the best option. But
would that be best for Houston because you may have
to go out and cut a team. This is this
The asking price for Durant is a lot lower than
asking and I don't speak from any type of knowledge, Doug,
than asking for Gianni's because you're gonna want the whole house,
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the keys of the car, the kids. You don't want
everything in return for Giannis. Anthing, pupo, Doug.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Last thing, Ryan before the series, who'd you think would
win it?
Speaker 7 (29:45):
I said, Indy, I'm going to take my ball movement
rus your defense because all I have to do is
not turn over the ball and see how you struggle offensively.
I think that's what we saw in Game one, and
I feel even stronger after Indiana sole that game, because
if I'm a player in that locker room, I'm dejected, dude,
and I'm questioning coach while we switch up the lineup,
what are we doing? How do we kind of recover
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from this because it feels like we're doing the same
thing over and over again, and it's tough. I remember
the National Championship playing against Florida and they moved the ball,
Fory Brewers hitting threes, Joe Kim Noah's dunking on us.
We're doing all this stuff and our offense was so
stagnant we couldn't play against them. So at the end
of the day, I think that Indy is looking to
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run away with this and look, man, hit all hands
on deck. Oklahoma City better final way with their defense
to win game two, but I think it's too far,
too gone after that first game.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Awesome stuff as always, Hey, Ryan, great stuff, Let's talk
as a series rolls on. Thanks for being our guest
on Fox Sports Radio. Inside all right, pleasure is completely
and totally mind. This is the Doug Gotlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Coming to next old quarterback in new places.
Who worked and who didn't? We'll tell you next. Thanks
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we let Dan Byer take it over and we play
ourselves a little game.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
This is game time game on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Hey there, Danny, what do you got?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Doug? The game on this Friday is I got DIBs?
All it EPs.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
This is where we throw out a topic and everybody
just grabs what's available. First Come, first serve if you will,
on the first topic with myself, Doug Gottlieb, Iowa Sam
and Ryan Berschinger, Today's executive producer. First topic up for
grabs fellas players in the NBA fives.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
We got dabs. Doug is in on Tyreus Haliburton.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
That's what I wondered, Will it well, SGA, will it
beat Tyresse Halliburton again?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Like, SGA is a better player, But I mean the
stuff Halliburton has done in just this playoff run, just
this playoff run is unbelievable in terms of like clutch, luck, confidence, timing,
(32:34):
all that stuff. So yeah, SGA is a better player,
but I mean, the dude just keeps making these shots.
He just beat the New York Knicks actually sent to
overtime time, then they beat the and then he just
did it again last night, like Halliburton, Halliburton.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
All right, Halliburton's off the board, SGA. Okay, Bursch is
getting SGA. I'll take Pascal Siakam Sam.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
I'll take DIBs on Isaiah Hartenstein. Oh only because I
like to say Hartenstein. I can't believe it'd be less left.
Oh you did take SGA. That's right, Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Jillen Williams is still on the board. I'm getting to
know him the.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Hard aaron Ne Smith available, Hartenstein, Pere No one took
chet Ah chit, but there is I'll tell you what
There is a contingency that calls him Hartenstein, Yes, and
it's not It's not correct.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
It's got to be.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
The Steine Hottenstein. Your boy Iron Eagle was always crisp
with that one, Doug. He would always say hartensteinstin this
on the heels of Aaron Rodgers being photoshopped in the
Steeler uniforms.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yesterday.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I made a post about this, but it was more
about him wearing Terry Bradshaw's number twelve than it was
him actually being a Pittsburgh Steeler. But it did look
odd Aaron Rodgers in a new uniform. But it's not
the first time that a quarterback changed teams that we
weren't accustomed to. So I want to know quarterbacks who
looked weird in a new team's uniform.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Go.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I got dims on Matt Ryan with the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
That's a good one because he wore red and black
with the Falcons, completely different color scheme. It just looked
weird when he was with the Colts. So I'm taking
Matt Ryan in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Brett Farv. I got dims on Brett farr. M Brett
Farv had the longest consecutive start streak, right, I mean
he was the Green Bay Packers and all of a
sudden he's in the Jets uniform. Then he's in a
Vikings uniform, and they beat the Packers first time and
played him like that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
The Vikings one was the twist for me, because again
of the color scheme, Like the green of the Jets
was like, okay, still, it's a similar green to Green Bays, right,
the one that they used at the time. But all right,
Farv is off the board, so was Matt Ryan.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
I will say that Rogers going from Green Bay Packer
green to Jets green, it looked like almost like a
knockoff jersey he was wearing, So that did look a
little strange. But I will take DIBs on Russell Wilson
in a Denver Broncos jersey. Again because of the color
scheme change. It was just a little bit hard on
the eyes to start a little foreign, but I got
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used to it. Uh, Broncos country, Let's ride, And now he's.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
In the blue country. Let's ride, Broncos country, Steelers country,
Let's ride, Giants country.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
People forget that.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Russell Wilson tried to do a Steelers line and it
magically disappeared. It was like like something like something about seven,
like let's go for seven and the Steelers I think
put the gbage on it early because we never heard
from it again.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Go ahead and bury that.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Can I di DIBs on another quarterback?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Unless uh?
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Well Tom Brady Okay, yeah, okay, him and a Bucks
uniform always looked weird. I get that he won a
super Bowl, but it never really felt right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
All Right, we've got the French Open going on right now.
Favorite tennis player male or female of all time? Oh,
I got dad's Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I have two, but let me let me start with this.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I have two as well, but I feel like you
can be double DIBs.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Okay, I'll start with the first one.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
All right?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Uh Andre Agassy, Andre Agassy?
Speaker 4 (36:22):
All right?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I just I loved I actually loved late Andrea Agassy
more than early Andrea. I see like when he's bald
and and he just like didn't care and the comeback. Andreas.
What's your first one?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
My first one is Stephan Edberg. When you're a kid,
you have a favorite of everything, like every team, every league.
My favorite tennis player was Stefan Edberg. Growing up. One
wimbled in a couple of times when the US opened
back to back the Swedes.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Stephan Edberg would be my first pick.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
I would I would say Roger Federer Agassy was actually
my first choice. But a Federer, especially later in his career,
I found myself rooting for him constantly because I just
wanted him to keep adding to those numbers.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah, he was great to watch.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Okay, Sam good I got debs.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Alright, Dan, you can have my second dib. You can
have second. It was your second dip Doug minus Federer.
Oh yeah. Boris Becker, Oh, I did not like him
because he played when stuff on Edburg.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I understand, but like, yes, big powerful, serve red hair.
You know, he just mowed you down on grass. Uh,
Boris Becker.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I'll tell you what's neat about the tennis, like the
Federer's special that they have, like the twelve days of
Federer or whatever. And he was announcing is a retirement
and then was playing like when you see like the
love that like raffee on Nadal has for him, like
the biggest rival. It's such a warm feeling and then
like vice versa, what you've seen a doll get emotional
like we saw at the French Open UH a couple
(37:58):
of weeks ago. At the start of it, it was awesome,
all right. Finally quick one French foods. I got DIBs
on French toast. My wife makes a mean, delicious French toast.
I got DIBs on gratin dauphin wall also known as
al gratten potatoes.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Okay, Doug Ryan times running out, palm free.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Okay, I got DIBs on French bread, French based threes.
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
You're welcome, Mega THG you you, thank you, Welcome in.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's a Friday and I'm working with geniuses. No, I
mean it, We'll play for you. The genius that is
Dan Byer with the completely accurate prediction of the end
of Game one of the NBA Finals upcoming. What a game,
what a life? Right? I was watching the last night's game,
(01:00):
and it's kind of fascinating to watch right where you're
you're watching and you're like, it's not really that close
a basketball game. But the the Pacers, here's the cliche.
They do what they do, right. That's like the worst
worst cliche ever, But in this particular case, it actually
(01:26):
makes sense they do what they do. The other thing
that's crazy about the game is that Tyrese Haliburton he's
just kind of a guy. Most of the game, he
really didn't do much. But then he hits the game winner,
and holy cow, Tyrese Halliburton, Oh my goodness, what are
we gonna do there? The final score is one eleven
(01:50):
to one ten. Haliburton hits the game winner with point
three seconds to go as they rallied from were they
down fifteen in the fourth quarter. It's craziness, craziness. Here's
what I want to do. Like we can do the
(02:11):
formatic radio show, or I Killed the Grass with the
big hot take and then we take calls or something,
or we can just talk. I'll give you something I
saw that's kind of interesting here. Okay, so I love
Alex Crusoe. We do know why Alex Crusoe has bounced
(02:31):
around the league and had to earn his way into
league from the G League before becoming such a gigantic
part of the Oklahoma City Thunder. It's it's like the
do you remember what election was? It was it when
Clinton won where it's it's the economy stupid? Right When
when George H. W. Bush lost to Bill Clinton, the
(02:55):
line was it's the economy stupid. Like to me, it's
the it's the shooting stupid right that as much as
he's become a consummate professional, a very good shoot, a
very good player, he checks back into the game for
Cason Wallace ninety four, ninety nine, ninety four, ninety nine.
(03:19):
But Caruso missing two threes late in the game that
kind of triggered the run. Triggered the run was he
missed two open threes, and Alex and then lou Dort
missed one late, and you're like, why does it matter
that Crusoe misses two threes? Why does it matter that
(03:42):
lou Dort misses misses a three late? Because those are
your worst shooters. And in trying to figure out, okay,
how did this happen, How did they make all these shots,
how did they score? Et cetera. Think about the comeback, right,
You had Pascal Siakam, he had two different trips to
(04:03):
the free through line he made three out of four.
You had Andrew Nebhart making a three. Uh, you had
Miles Turner making threes. You had Obi Toppin making threes. Now,
it doesn't mean that Obi Toppin is a is a
(04:23):
great shooter. Doesn't mean Miles Turner is a great shooter.
But that's what they have molded their NBA careers into.
They have improved dramatically. Turner has always been a good shooter,
made himself into a forty percent three point shooter, right
Aaron Nay Smith forty nine and a half percent three
(04:46):
point shooter. Toppin's only at thirty four, but he was
running a fever last night. And the big story to
me is that they got Oklahoma City to have their
non shooters shoot, and they came down and smartly made
threes late, and they had one put back and a
couple of free throws late as well. In other words,
(05:08):
perfect analytics basketball up until that last kind of pull
up jump shot. But doesn't really matter, Hey, tremendous analytics
basketball at both ends, making the sub thirty five three
point shooters shoot and not allowing shots at the rim
only two's after the non shooter shooting to three and
(05:33):
then taking threes and layups yourself. But I mean that
one was weird because that one seemed another one seemed over,
and even the Oklahoma City crowd like wasn't freaking out,
And then it happened so fast, bang bang bang bang bang,
topping with a bunch of threes, Miles Turner a couple
(05:53):
of threes, and all of a sudden you're like, that's
getting kind of close. And then lou Dort fires off
when it misses and they come down and another one.
You're like, oh my gosh, we have ourselves a game bayer.
You will play it for people. We put it on
social media. You literally predicted this thing, like to the
t on what could or would happen with the Pacers
(06:16):
having a lead late When I say game one NBA Finals,
what's the first thing that comes to your mind as
to what you actually saw.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, it was the Pacers doing it again. And you
try to find points in the game, Doug where you're like, Okay,
this is where it turned.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
That's where it turned.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I'm a big fan of the twelve point lead because
it's never as big as you think, and it's never
as small as you think, because sure of the three
point shot, you could be at eighteen and you know,
two possessions and it gave me down to a six
point game and the same sort of breath. But we
were hovering around that area. So the nine point lead
at that three minute mark was big, and again three
point shot. Nie Smith hits it, and now it's a
(06:57):
six point game and it's a close game.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Throw out.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
The crazy part that I thought what was was big
You mentioned Caruso. Remember at the end of the first half,
Caruso had a shot at the buck at the right
at the bucket and it didn't go down, but they
still led by twelve. But that was a half where
the Pacers had nineteen turnovers and they only led by twelve,
Like Indiana was only down at that point. And it's
at that point that I'm thinking to myself, well, this
(07:23):
is still a ballgame if Indiana just decides to hold
on to the basketball. And the reason why yesterday I
said what I said was because I felt that that
is the turning point of it. If you navigate that
stretch the final six minutes in you're Oklahoma City, You're
You're in a really, really good spot. No, not only
are the overwhelming favorite, but you have done something that
(07:46):
the other teams have not been able to do when
they faced Indiana. But if Indiana does it now, I
feel that the series has turned. Because you can look
at all the bad things that Indiana did in Game
one and said, wow, they still were able to come
in and steal it. So that's why the stretch, it
just felt, was so important because it just felt like
a tone setter for the series that it's going to
go one way or the other. Either Oklahoma City is
(08:08):
going to end the Pacers' streak of comebacks and kind
of right or wrong of their own from what happened
in the Denver series, or now Indiana is fully into
the series with a legit chance to bring home the
NBA title.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Hmm Yeah. This is one where I can never understand
nor any of us can, the mentality of each individual team.
I do think that for the Pacers moving forward, their
thought process has to be we could not have played
any worse than the first half. We played fine the
(08:45):
second half, and then we caught a heater and we
did we did, we came back and win the game.
Imagine what happens if we actually play a good first half.
I could clean first half mm hm. For Oklahoma City again,
you would think the thought processes which you want positive is,
hey man, we were up nineteen, like we're the better team.
All we gotta do is just step on their throat
(09:07):
next time. On the other hand, there's never going to
be a part in the game where you're looking up
at the lead thinking we're good, right, it's just never
like we did, never, never good. And as much as
you can say, well, hey, maybe that makes Oklahoma City
a young team, step on their throat and make a
fifteen point game a thirty point game next time. Maybe,
(09:28):
or maybe you're up that magic number of twelve what
you're talking about, and Nie Smith hits a three and
all of a sudden, Diagno's going to take quick time
out and they kind of start freaking out and get tight.
But none of us know what's gonna happen. We just know,
like psychologically, it could literally go either way. And that's why.
And I know Jay's off, He's up hiking in Big
(09:48):
Bear today. Jay's two. But that's why he hates the
stupid prediction game because you can't tell the mentality. You
can't tell how one ball goes in what doesn't go in.
But I have to tell you that that was one
of the most thrilling endings. Look, every part of me
should want Oklahoma City to win, just again, as you
(10:09):
guys know, my kids all live in Oklahoma now right.
I'm close with some people in that organization. I know
people in the Pacers organization too. I think it'd just
be great for the city, great for the organist, and
the people I know in the organization tell me that
the people above them in the organization are all like
great people, like there's just no bs to them. I
(10:31):
like everything about it. So my ties should be to
Oklahoma City. But watching a team kind of methodically, not
freak out, not panic, hit a three, you get a
stop at a three, you get a stop at a three,
you get a stop, And then watching that crowd get tight,
watching the thunder get tight, watching the officiating get to
(10:52):
be totally even right, that's a big thing. Like it
got cut to six and Shay got kind of a
he got one of those free through merchant Foulsy's like,
all right, they're gonna give him a couple of calls
to get him. But that was the last call he got.
Then the next two pull up jump shots he got
nothing on normally regular season get called a foul and
it was not. And that was one of the most
(11:15):
thrilling comeback wins I can think of. In the NBA Finals,
and again I end up rooting for the Pacers, only
not because of the contrarian to me, But I just
I appreciate how hard it is what they've been doing,
and how smartly they execute what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And I would even say that the comebacks that they
had in the other games were more miraculous than this
one was, because this was this was closer than over
the final ninety seconds to two minutes than it was,
say in the Cleveland series or in the Bucks series,
where the Thunder did have to make plays. They didn't
make a bucket for the final ninety seconds of the game.
(11:55):
You like, there's a there's another one for Oklahoma City,
and you wonder, now how that creeps in?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
What Jalen Williams too big, too big missus. They're late,
right And as as he goes, so goes to Thunder. Obviously,
Shane misses what could have been the game Seiler could
have put them up up three. Here's Tyrese Halliburton on
how his team performed overall this game.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
If you look at all the numbers, it's not the
recipe to win. We can't turn the ball over that much.
We got to do a better job of beating gaps,
gotta do better job of rebounding, You gotta do a
better job all over the floor. But come May in June,
it doesn't matter how you get him, just get him,
you know. So we'll take it. You know, we'll enjoy
this one tonight. But don't understand, we got another game
coming up in this tough building and we got to
(12:37):
be prepared for that. So, like I said, we're just
a confident group. We got eachiller's back.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Here's the league's MVP. And how the Thunder ended up losing.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I don't know. It happened so fast. I feel like
we got matched. He got down going right, pulled up
from MIDI and knocked down the shot. I don't know.
It didn't feel like anything crazy. He just he just
made a play. With the time winding down, we had
control of the game for the most part of it.
Now it is a forty eight minute game, and they
(13:05):
teach you that lesson more than anyone else in the
league the hard way.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
He's right, It does go fast, and then you know,
Indiana doesn't call time out in the last possession, so
oftentimes NBA teams have I've been in that situation and
I've had the opposite thing happen right where you don't
call time out, just let him go make a play like,
oh man, should I have called the timeout or not? There? Ah,
just dying over it, but it does. It happens really fast.
(13:32):
He hit three, You're like, all right, it's nine. Then
you missed it, sh out and they hit three, Like okay,
it's six. That that happened fast. They eat the fat line.
You're like, oh, okay, it's eight. Then he hit it
three and it's five. Like whoa, whoa, what what happened?
Now we're in a game. Happened so fast? So fast?
And I love what Halburton said. He's basically like, we
(13:54):
didn't really play well enough to win, but that matter,
which to Dan, you're my point, which is like, Indiana's
got to be sitting there thinking, imagine if we actually
played well, you know, we won a game on their
home court and we were do do for the first
twenty four minutes.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, and it's selling to pacers are without faults because
that is one of their faults defensively as well. They yeah, yeah,
I mean they haven't been as strong, but boy, last
night it sure came through and they needed to. The
nineteen first half turnovers is absurd. Was it to only
be down twelve at that point?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, yeah, And that's one of the reasons though that again,
you know thunderplay. Both teams play a lot of guys.
I thought it hurt both teams playing a lot of guys.
I thought of Oklahoma City would have played a little
bit more of a condensed rotation last night. They could
have maybe stepped on the throat of the Pacers in
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Rebound Indiana. Eight seconds to go. The Pacers are not
gonna call a time out. Paddleburton has it with three driving,
(15:15):
with two pulling.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Up and heading with three tenths of a second to go.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
How many more times can this team do that?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Soweets babies? Have you have you seen the Haliban tweets
out there? Have you seen those? You see it? Those
are amazing and it's like I will, I refuse to
be the guy who gets offended right because anything Taliban
related whatever, like we're supposed to. But it's so good
(15:50):
and so funny that I gotta tell people, if you're
bothered by it, then you know what, just stay out
of this one. We're all gonna have a good time
and enjoy basketball and understand it's not that deep. Coming
up next to The Doug Gottlieb Show, we'll dive more
in the NBA Finals with Ryan Hollins. He'll join us.
Plus wait to you then, who the Knicks want to
talk to in regards to their coaching vacancy. That's next.
(16:11):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be
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the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR Doug Gottlieb Show. You're
on Fox Sports Radio. So I saw this story. I
(16:33):
thought it was interesting that Jason Kidd is going to
get interviewed by the Knicks. Now what happens. Is this
from Mark Stein And as you know, Mark joins us
on the show on a weekly basis, And if you
want to read Mark's substack, go ahead and find the steinline.
But he said the New York Knicks are expected to
formally ask permission to speak with Dallas Maverick's coach, Chasing
(16:55):
Kidd about their coaching vacancy in the coming days. League
sources say Ian Begley, Ima Udoka, Chris Finch and Jason
Kidd are among the coaches currently under contract who the
Knicks have degrees of interest in. Remember, just because you're
speaking to a coach doesn't mean you're going to hire him.
And the one thing he doesn't have is a is
a defined relationship with Leon Rose. Of course, wasn't his agent.
(17:20):
Aaron Goodwin was his agent when he was a player.
So but when he became the nets head coach fresh
off of being a player, his last team he played
for was the New York Knicks. And now of course
he's gone. You know, he went to several other teams,
took the Mavericks to the finals. And as I told you,
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I don't think you can fire Tom Thibodeau because of
his shortcomings or perceived shortcomings for a team in the
playoffs to get to the finals, something he's never done
as a head coach, and not hire a head coach
who hasn't been past the Eastern Conference finals. That's why
to me, jeff En Gutty makes sense. That's why to me,
Jason Kidd might even make a little sense. And I
(18:05):
know that Jay Wright hasn't been past them in the NBA,
but winning two championships, being the three final fours, widely
considered one of the great coaches of college basketball. Also
a guy who doesn't make it about himself, which is
one of the big things that NBA coaches can't do,
make it about themselves. I think those are the real candidates,
real candidates. Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb Show podcast.
(18:27):
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It's Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Hollins is our guest course
you've heard him on weekends with Dan Byer, you've heard
him on this show with Dan Byer filling in for me.
(18:49):
He's an NBA VET, he's our Fox Sports Radio NBA
analyst Ryan. What did we just watch last night?
Speaker 7 (18:58):
And this is something that halla Burton it has been
doing all playoffs long. I think, Doug, it's time for
us to start believing in what goes on. And Doug,
we've talked about this on the show and you almost
saw the script is playing out. Indiana executes for four quarters.
(19:18):
The rest of the NBA probably three quarters, and then
you put the ball in the hands of your best player.
But they just truly believe and it's tough. And what
you're seeing is SGA one on one, SGA one on one.
Hopefully we get to steal. Hopefully we created deflection, and
that's going against Indiana. Pick and roll ball moment, second side,
(19:40):
pick and roll attack, drawn kick three three three, and
once Indiana starts hitting threes, now the game confidence offensively
and the scape part. Doug, I don't know how you
feel about this. The fact that Indy turned the ball
over so much in the first half, and the fact
that the thunder didn't win that game, you got be
shaken in your boots.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We just discussed this, like the Pacers have to be
sitting there going. We played poorly for two thirds of
the game, definitely half of the game played poorly and
yet still end up winning a game, and we did
so on the road. Imagine what happens when we just
play average in the first half. What about the What
(20:26):
about the Oklahoma City Thunder? How hard is it going
to be for them to convince themselves? Hey, guys, we
were up nineteen, like we had. We had a double
digit lead late in the fourth quarter. But again, that's
really hard to convince yourself when that league evaporated in
the last two minutes.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Yug. I think the biggest problem for Oklahoma City is
trying to match up with Indiana, and I think they've
got to be the best versions of themselves. If it's
Shay shooting the ball fifty times, you go big, You
just attack the glass and muddy the game up and
make it really physical. That's what it's going to have
to be. But you go small with Cason Wallace and
(21:10):
you try to match up with the three point shooting,
and your advantage, in my opinion, is chet Holmgren blocking shots,
and then you know looking inside the paint and you
know Hartenstein hitting the glass, creating second chance opportunities him
and pick and roll him, and you know DHL actions
(21:30):
like I think you kind of got away from what
you've done in Hartenstein. You can argue, you know, he'd
been the best Thunder member outside of Shade, you know,
the most reliable at least in many of these opportunities.
So I think you got to be the best version
of yourself. And I didn't like trying to match up
with Indy because you're not going to out Indy Indy.
(21:54):
I don't. I don't know if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Do No, it does? It does? Yeah, I completely completely understand.
I thought, again, and maybe this is too deep into
basketball talk for other people. Here we go, Jayla Williams
too big, missus late okay, but also lou Dort shooting
three late, Caruso two wide open threes late. You mentioned
(22:16):
the execution again, it's not just in what you execute,
but it's the Pacers had their shooters shooting threes and
the Thunder had their non shooters. I'm talking about lou
Dort and Crusoe shooting those three threets late. How big
a factor is that in the overall scheme of things.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
It's huge. And that's why I said, you know, that's
by designing. We're going boxes and elbows on Shay and
we're gonna come out with a good contest on the three,
and we're gonna live with those guys. Are they capable shooters? Yes,
but you know who I trust, Nie Smith, nim Hard
Siakam with those same shots. So it's gonna be my
offense for your offense. And can those guys shoot, Yeah,
(22:57):
of course they can. But with Indy, they just trust
the ball movement and they move the ball better than
anybody in the NBA right now. They play as a
team and they're not horrific defensively. So if you're in
the locker room, Doug, like you're saying like, don't turn
the basketball over, like, don't give them any light, don't
turn the ball over. Be strong with the catch. And
(23:20):
I tell you one thing, like since the days of
Durant and Westbrook being there, when I played against those
guys with the Clippers and whoever, Oklahoma City's a tough
place to play. So when you talk about having to
pahonas to hit that shot to go get it, and
Rick carl Out doesn't go time out, and Halibert it's
that dude. It doesn't get any more deflating. And I've
(23:41):
been calling this, but I'm shocked. They just they just
cut down like that against the man you talk about
just deflating.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Dug gotta be incredibly inflating. Doug Otlibs show here on
Fox Sports, Tralier, let's talk to some other NBA news
in your mind, who's the best fit for the Knicks.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I'm shocked. I think Jason Kidd because he's a former Nick,
He's gonna have to be on the table. I guess
they got permission to talk to him. You got to
bring in the name, dude, because that's all that is
all the It's the most pressured job outside of being
the Lakers head coach in the world. You know, you
got a little excuse maybe if you're coaching Lebron that
(24:25):
you can say, hey, Lebron's smart enough, he's gonna do
his deal. You know, there's not much I'm gonna be
able to fine tune. But that's a lot of pressure.
You got to get a veteran coach, You got to
get somebody you know, willing to step in and you know,
win now. But I'm still just blown away that they
got rid of TIBs. And I think, Doug, in my opinion,
(24:45):
it's unless there's something that I don't know. I think
you send the wrong message of basketball that you can
have the best season that New York has had in decades.
You can lead this team, you can improve, you get
guys to believe, and then we fire you when we
say somehow to your faull, somehow we need to strive
something different. And I can acknowledge something needs to change,
(25:05):
but I don't see that being Tom Thibodeau called me crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, I'm with you, but that that was how the
decision was made. And you just sit there scratching your
head like are you are? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Minnesota Timberwolves, we hadn't tuks and stay lost. There's a
lot of people like, hey, you need to make Anthony
Edwards be able to score out of the post. And
I've heard lots of suggestions you didn't just play in
the NBA. You cover it with the with the Rockets
as well as for us here in Fox Sports Radio.
If you were running the Minnesota Timberwolves. What would you
do to take that next step?
Speaker 7 (25:44):
I teach it how to play pick and roll. I
take a page out of Luca Dacic to Lebron's book
James Harden, and I teach him how to hay like, Hey,
that's the that that power for in the corner. That's
the mismatch you want. Bring him into action because they
can't switch. You're too good offensively and play with your bigs.
Learn how to play with Rudy Gobert. It's probably disgusting
(26:07):
the lack of assists that he has to Rudy Gobert.
Rudy Gobert is one of the better screen setters that
we've had in the NBA. Screen assists but it means
when he sets the screen, you get a good shot
or he ends up getting a wide open dunk. When
he learns how to play with Rudy, when he learns
how to play with his bigs, when he learns how
to pick out the mismatch on the floor and call
(26:29):
those guys in a pick and roll, you're gonna see
Anthony Edwards game take leaps and bounds. I do agree
with the posts efficiency in action. He's so good he
can get to a spot, pull up and shoot right
over you. But I think the patience who's going to
have to be there, And I think as he takes
those leaps, I don't think it's necessarily spreading the floor
with the guy who can create of n over contested shot.
(26:51):
I believe that you play with two bigs. I think
you get in another big, another shot block or another
kind of spore inside with size to where they sure
up the paint, and you allow him as a volume
shooter to go make some missus. Just talk with McIntyre
on Collins Show, and I said, not playing Chet and
Hartenstein was the silliest thing Oklahoma City could have done
(27:13):
because you got a volume sport in Shae Gilgis Alexander.
At least you can command the paint. Maybe you get
more offensive rebounding opportunities in your limp is what makes
you different than Indy. So I think my challenge with
Minnesota is to play bigger and learn how to play
pick and roll. But in that process, you hit the
heck out of the glass and you give him more shots.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Ryan Hollins
is our guest Ryan's Jannis. What do you think he
plays next year?
Speaker 7 (27:50):
I think for Giannis and I'm pretty sure they're gonna
look to work with him. I think he's gotta look
and he's gotta try to one get to a bit
market and then he's got to have a chance to
go out and win. And for Milwaukee, you know what,
they're going to be greedy. They're going to be like
man Dami and Little is going to be out next season.
(28:11):
We need all the youth, all the picks that we
can get ultimately at the end of the day, So
the largest market team that can bring that to the table,
I think you got to be excited. And I think
if there's enough chemistry there, it could be san Antonio.
I think we'd like that to see him and Wimby.
But I don't know if Giannas want to be san
(28:32):
Antonio because the one thing we've heard from him is
that I want to go to a large city, you know,
I want to have a chance to shine as the
other superstars in the NBA. Do you saw the news
about the Knicks willing to throw everything at him, And
I think if you're the Knicks, you kind of have
to because if you're getting rid of tives. That means
you're willing to move forward in the direction and have
(28:52):
a superstar and a guy to build around, So that
could be a move. I don't know if Milwaukee wants
to rebuild, they want to, you know, try to step
into another forty or fifty win season. Ultimately, at the
end of the day, you know, we've seen different teams
go different ways. If it's a Clippers, you know, in
a large market, they know there's a chance and to
(29:13):
pall for him to want to be there. And I
think Houston from a talent perspective and youth and kind
of win now would probably be the best option. But
would that be best for Houston because you may have
to go out and cut a team. This is this
The asking price for Durant is a lot lower than
asking and I don't speak from any type of knowledge, Doug,
than asking for Gianni's because you're gonna want the whole house,
(29:35):
the keys of the car, the kids. You don't want
everything in return for Giannis. Anthing, pupo, Doug.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Last thing, Ryan before the series, who'd you think would
win it?
Speaker 7 (29:45):
I said, Indy, I'm going to take my ball movement
rus your defense because all I have to do is
not turn over the ball and see how you struggle offensively.
I think that's what we saw in Game one, and
I feel even stronger after Indiana sole that game, because
if I'm a player in that locker room, I'm dejected, dude,
and I'm questioning coach while we switch up the lineup,
what are we doing? How do we kind of recover
(30:07):
from this because it feels like we're doing the same
thing over and over again, and it's tough. I remember
the National Championship playing against Florida and they moved the ball,
Fory Brewers hitting threes, Joe Kim Noah's dunking on us.
We're doing all this stuff and our offense was so
stagnant we couldn't play against them. So at the end
of the day, I think that Indy is looking to
(30:28):
run away with this and look, man, hit all hands
on deck. Oklahoma City better final way with their defense
to win game two, but I think it's too far,
too gone after that first game.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Awesome stuff as always, Hey, Ryan, great stuff, Let's talk
as a series rolls on. Thanks for being our guest
on Fox Sports Radio. Inside all right, pleasure is completely
and totally mind. This is the Doug Gotlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Coming to next old quarterback in new places.
Who worked and who didn't? We'll tell you next. Thanks
for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show. Be sure to
(31:01):
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Every day. At this time of the Doug Gottlieb Show,
(31:21):
we let Dan Byer take it over and we play
ourselves a little game.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
This is game time game on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Hey there, Danny, what do you got?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Doug? The game on this Friday is I got DIBs?
All it EPs.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
This is where we throw out a topic and everybody
just grabs what's available. First Come, first serve if you will,
on the first topic with myself, Doug Gottlieb, Iowa Sam
and Ryan Berschinger, Today's executive producer. First topic up for
grabs fellas players in the NBA fives.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
We got dabs. Doug is in on Tyreus Haliburton.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
That's what I wondered, Will it well, SGA, will it
beat Tyresse Halliburton again?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Like, SGA is a better player, But I mean the
stuff Halliburton has done in just this playoff run, just
this playoff run is unbelievable in terms of like clutch, luck, confidence, timing,
(32:34):
all that stuff. So yeah, SGA is a better player,
but I mean, the dude just keeps making these shots.
He just beat the New York Knicks actually sent to
overtime time, then they beat the and then he just
did it again last night, like Halliburton, Halliburton.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
All right, Halliburton's off the board, SGA. Okay, Bursch is
getting SGA. I'll take Pascal Siakam Sam.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
I'll take DIBs on Isaiah Hartenstein. Oh only because I
like to say Hartenstein. I can't believe it'd be less left.
Oh you did take SGA. That's right, Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Jillen Williams is still on the board. I'm getting to
know him the.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Hard aaron Ne Smith available, Hartenstein, Pere No one took
chet Ah chit, but there is I'll tell you what
There is a contingency that calls him Hartenstein, Yes, and
it's not It's not correct.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
It's got to be.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
The Steine Hottenstein. Your boy Iron Eagle was always crisp
with that one, Doug. He would always say hartensteinstin this
on the heels of Aaron Rodgers being photoshopped in the
Steeler uniforms.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yesterday.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I made a post about this, but it was more
about him wearing Terry Bradshaw's number twelve than it was
him actually being a Pittsburgh Steeler. But it did look
odd Aaron Rodgers in a new uniform. But it's not
the first time that a quarterback changed teams that we
weren't accustomed to. So I want to know quarterbacks who
looked weird in a new team's uniform.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Go.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I got dims on Matt Ryan with the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
That's a good one because he wore red and black
with the Falcons, completely different color scheme. It just looked
weird when he was with the Colts. So I'm taking
Matt Ryan in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Brett Farv. I got dims on Brett farr. M Brett
Farv had the longest consecutive start streak, right, I mean
he was the Green Bay Packers and all of a
sudden he's in the Jets uniform. Then he's in a
Vikings uniform, and they beat the Packers first time and
played him like that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
The Vikings one was the twist for me, because again
of the color scheme, Like the green of the Jets
was like, okay, still, it's a similar green to Green Bays, right,
the one that they used at the time. But all right,
Farv is off the board, so was Matt Ryan.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
I will say that Rogers going from Green Bay Packer
green to Jets green, it looked like almost like a
knockoff jersey he was wearing, So that did look a
little strange. But I will take DIBs on Russell Wilson
in a Denver Broncos jersey. Again because of the color
scheme change. It was just a little bit hard on
the eyes to start a little foreign, but I got
(35:09):
used to it. Uh, Broncos country, Let's ride, And now he's.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
In the blue country. Let's ride, Broncos country, Steelers country,
Let's ride, Giants country.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
People forget that.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Russell Wilson tried to do a Steelers line and it
magically disappeared. It was like like something like something about seven,
like let's go for seven and the Steelers I think
put the gbage on it early because we never heard
from it again.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Go ahead and bury that.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Can I di DIBs on another quarterback?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Unless uh?
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Well Tom Brady Okay, yeah, okay, him and a Bucks
uniform always looked weird. I get that he won a
super Bowl, but it never really felt right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
All Right, we've got the French Open going on right now.
Favorite tennis player male or female of all time? Oh,
I got dad's Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I have two, but let me let me start with this.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I have two as well, but I feel like you
can be double DIBs.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Okay, I'll start with the first one.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
All right?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Uh Andre Agassy, Andre Agassy?
Speaker 4 (36:22):
All right?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I just I loved I actually loved late Andrea Agassy
more than early Andrea. I see like when he's bald
and and he just like didn't care and the comeback. Andreas.
What's your first one?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
My first one is Stephan Edberg. When you're a kid,
you have a favorite of everything, like every team, every league.
My favorite tennis player was Stefan Edberg. Growing up. One
wimbled in a couple of times when the US opened
back to back the Swedes.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Stephan Edberg would be my first pick.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
I would I would say Roger Federer Agassy was actually
my first choice. But a Federer, especially later in his career,
I found myself rooting for him constantly because I just
wanted him to keep adding to those numbers.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah, he was great to watch.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Okay, Sam good I got debs.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Alright, Dan, you can have my second dib. You can
have second. It was your second dip Doug minus Federer.
Oh yeah. Boris Becker, Oh, I did not like him
because he played when stuff on Edburg.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I understand, but like, yes, big powerful, serve red hair.
You know, he just mowed you down on grass. Uh,
Boris Becker.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I'll tell you what's neat about the tennis, like the
Federer's special that they have, like the twelve days of
Federer or whatever. And he was announcing is a retirement
and then was playing like when you see like the
love that like raffee on Nadal has for him, like
the biggest rival. It's such a warm feeling and then
like vice versa, what you've seen a doll get emotional
like we saw at the French Open UH a couple
(37:58):
of weeks ago. At the start of it, it was awesome,
all right. Finally quick one French foods. I got DIBs
on French toast. My wife makes a mean, delicious French toast.
I got DIBs on gratin dauphin wall also known as
al gratten potatoes.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Okay, Doug Ryan times running out, palm free.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Okay, I got DIBs on French bread, French based threes.
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