October 24, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug and Dan Beyer discuss the Packers-Steelers game on Sunday as Aaron Rodgers faces his former team. Doug welcomes FSR betting analyst Jared Smith onto the show to talk about the NBA gambling scandal and the wagering for the college football weekend. Plus, Dan takes Doug through "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome in Hope. You're having a great day, getting ready
for a great weekend celebrated with some sports fall us
here mid October, Green Bay, Wisconsin. We're waiting on one
game for the Packers, and then we're a week in
three days away from a first game for my Green
Bay Phoenix. Welcome in Hope. The world is treating you okay.
(00:41):
Here on a Friday, got game one of the World
Series tonight. We got NBA games tonight. College football kind
of a slate of college football. There's a couple of
good games, mostly not w SEC, NFL. Same thing. There's
like one or two games. Not a great football weekend.
(01:03):
Should be a good weekend for baseball. Good weekend for baseball.
I want to start with the game of the weekend,
that everybody's gonna talk about is the Packers and taking
on Aaron Rodgers and the the Pittsburgh Steelers. First thing
is so so Dan, Let me get this straight. Neither
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of them are wearing their traditional uniforms in this game.
This in the traditional uniform world. This is as good
as it gets. Right. Steelers at home should be wearing
their blacks with their yellow pants, and the Packers should
be wearing their road whites also with their yellow pants.
That's not going to happen. I like what the Packers
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are doing, you know, wearing the those all whites are cool,
but I don't think this is the game to do that,
right that that feels like a Thursday night thing, not
a Sunday night thing. Sunday night Packers shouldn't they be
wearing their traditional uniforms.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, they both should be, but that's not how things
work in the NFL. I don't mind the Packers want
as much. Again, they just need a gold stripe on
the helmet. It's the medieval times thing that the Steelers
are that they're going to be wearing. That just bothers me.
The brown pants, whatever they've got, whatever pattern that is
on the front of their jersey, the shield. That's just
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I just I understand not forgetting the past, but this
just doesn't do anything for anybody except maybe sell a
few more jerseys for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Is anybody gonna buy that thing?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Oh yeah, there will be. I just don't know if
they'll make their money back on it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It is uh yeah, it's ugly and it's it just
does nothing for the game. There's just so much about
dress is what's appropriate, not about if you actually dress well.
It's one of the things I love about Green Bay,
Wisconsin is there's nothing ever that's kind of inappropriate in
terms of dressing down right. You go to a bar
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and you know this Dan, It's like you're sitting next
to the guy. He's wearing jeans and boots and you're like,
he could be a multi millionaire or he could have
just got done working on my truck in the shop.
There's no no real difference there. So how you dressing?
Being underdressed like this is one where it's pretty simple.
It's pretty simple. Packers, Steelers, let's not screw it up.
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Where's something that resembles your traditional uniforms, because these are
the ones in which those images are going to go
out for years and years and years on. Remember when
Aaron Rodgers. I mean, look, I remember when the Packers
took on the Vikings at home and Brett Favre came
in and won the game. The Vikings were wearing their
traditional uniforms. Why or as a boomer would say a ESPN,
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what and then there's something else that go ahead? I'm sorry,
I just said what what?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeh? But Rogers is doing that kind of grandfather thing
right where, you know, it's it's his kind of waning days,
and so he's talking nice when like, were you that
nice a long time ago? Here's Aaron Rodgers talking about
his time in green Bay and Green Bay is gonna
have a good team this year. It was a game today,
hirod Ella distant play?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
He is limited, okay, all right today?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And he is questionable.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And I like the way those guys are trended.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So are you able to tell us who's guys?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Feel so good about my time?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Man?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Because them there Everything great in my life is because
of you know, my football career, and my football career
starts and we'll end one day with with Green Bay.
So we got a lot of love for all those
memories and a lot of great friends that still carry
with me to this day.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
He says he it will end with Green Bay? Does
does that mean the Packers are going to do one
of those one day contract things? Right? Because there is
the We're like, wait, is he gonna come back to
Green Bay as a backup quarterback to Jordan Love. I'm
gonna tell you what. The best thing that happened to
Aaron Rodgers is Jordan Love's good, but he's in comparison
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to Aaron Rodgers just Okay, that's that's the reality of it.
Living in this town. It's it was. It was kind
of a marriage that had to end at some point.
Him getting hurt and not having you know, greatness and
not rubbing it in the face of the Packers I
think helped. I think there's a younger generation of people
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that they grew up with Aaron Rodgers, love Aaron Rodgers,
and they they're never going to see the bad side.
And then I think what adds to that is Jordan
Love's not been bad, but he hasn't been great, and
that helps build up Aaron Rodgers legacy. And then I
think the last part is Aaron Rodgers is pretty good.
To Jordan Love, whereas far was not great to Aaron
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Rodgers for a long time. And I think they're seeing
different very differently. Despite the fact there are two Hall
of Fame quarterbacks that each won a Super Bowl, that
each left Green Bay and both situations in which they
left both left for the Jets, and they were both
kind of weird now they left. Rogers is still more beloved,
I think than Farvies now. As a native Wisconsinite, how
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do you view Aaron Rodgers today, especially now when he's
saying only nice things about Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I think in time that he'll be welcome back, just
like Brett Favre was welcome back, and I think that
day will come for Aaron Rodgers. The unfortunate thing about
this matchup is that it's in Pittsburgh, and so we
can try to play up this. Rogers faces his former team,
faces his former head coach. I think that there's something there,
but again, it's Rogers played mostly with Mike McCarthy, so
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there's that aspect of it. It would be completely different
if this game was in Green Bay, and I'd be
curious to see the reception that Rogers got. I think
that was loved more than Rogers was, but when Farv
did leave for Minnesota, that was something that certain Packer
fans couldn't get over. At that time, Rogers playing for
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the Jets and then the Steelers doesn't interfere with the
Packers world in a way, but going to the hated
rival of Minnesota, when many Packer fans stuck with stuck
with Farv when he went to the Jets. I know
I've told this story before on this show, but the
CBS affiliate in Milwaukee requested that they air they get
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the Jets games to air in their market because they
had the AFC package. It was before Fox and CBS
could exchange AFC and NFC games, when CBS was basically
the home of the AFC. The market in Milwaukee asked
to carry Jets games when FAV was in New York
because there was a contingent of fans that wanted to
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watch Farv. I don't think that happened with Aaron Rodgers
so and also because this is happening again that there's
another quarterback. So while far like burned Bridges by going
to Minnesota, I don't think that he was as loved
as FARVZ. But I do think there will be a
day where Aaron Rodgers will get his day in the
sun in Green Bay again.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know, there is another side to it being in Pittsburgh.
It does feel very un Pittsburgh like though, to have
Aaron Rodgers be their quarterback. And look, I can't tell
you that I've studied Pittsburgh Steeler history or Pittsburgh Steeler lore, right,
it's really interesting on how nobody mentions the Bubby Bridsters
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of the world, the Cordell Stewart. So this role win
Slash was their guy. They went to Tommy Maddox and tried
to spread it out and ran Tommy Gunn the offense whatever.
But the Steelers. For the Steelers to take on somebody
else's legend, right is it's just not Steeler like. And
I know they did it last year with Russell Wilson
as well. This is a very different way for the
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Steelers to do business. Their two Super Bowl winning quarterbacks
were drafted by the Steelers and played for the Steelers.
Roethlisberger never played for anybody else. So it does it
feels like a brave new world for the Steelers, whereas
the Packers have actually been through this before. And then
I also think and you brought up the time, will
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it's the old time? Will heal all old wounds? This
is a lot like a divorce right where they're each
dating somebody else now and the Packers like, yeah, we're good,
we have Jordan Love, we love Jordan Love. Right, their
relationship was sort of complicated when they got them, and
now it's kind of worked out. But I'm sure there's
anybody who watches, and I know this from so many everybody,
(09:47):
here's a Packer fan is the hey, I love Jordan
love the person like he's easy, he's not. There's not
as much Aaron can be hard, but he's not not
as good as Aaron Rodgers or nor has he been
even close to Aaron Rodgers when Aaron was twenty seven,
Like not close? And then you know, and then I
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think Packers fans who would be jealous or sit there
and go like, hey, look at who Aaron Rodgers dated
for two years, dated the Jets for two years. Now
with the Steelers, it's like it feels like the Packers
dated somebody half their half the age of their last spouse,
and Aaron Rodgers went with somebody his own age. Doesn't
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it like the Steelers are kind of traditional, and you
know they're they're I think they're playing up his experience,
They're using it, they're leaning on it. It does feel
like he's dated somebody sort of his own age after
trying to date somebody wild post divorce, and the Green
Bay Packers have have taken on somebody young, stable and
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kind of trying to mold them into the in the
significant other that they want Jordan Love to be. That's,
by the way, my most Colhurdian parallel that I could
I could find.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'll tell you talk you talk about dating Doug. It
is interesting because when you compare Farv Love by Wisconsin
people during his time there and Rogers Love. You know,
Farv and his wife Deanna were very visible, and Deanna's
battle through cancer made far you know, even more relatable,
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and so she was a part of the fabric of
the community. What's interesting is Rogers had celebrity relationships in
the smallest market that there is. But when even when
when Rogers was leaving Green Bay, you would hear conversations
of places that Rogers would go, Rogers would eat, and
no one had a bad thing to say about him.
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So those direct one on one conversations or the places
that he would go locally. There was nothing negative ever
said about Aaron Rodgers. But it's funny on just on
how their how their lives were viewed, because I think
Brett favre Rogers California kid, right, kid from cal West
Coast comes to Green Bay. Farv's the old Mississippi bumpkin,
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you know, coming up north. Loves to hunt and fish
and do that stuff, which a lot of people like
to do in that area, you know, a little bit
more relatable. I don't know. They love them just the same,
but they the Packer fans loved them both for a
variety of different reasons, and the different reasons that they
had were interesting when you compare one to the other
as well.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You some of the Aaron Rodgers recent stuff wears the out.
You're rooting for Rogers. You're rooting for the Packers in
a game in which you have no you have no
real rooting interest.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Who am I rooting for Steelers helps the Seahawks?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay, Yeah, that's an out of the way that I
never even thought of. That angle it, Jay, dude, You
love you love stories like this more than the actual
games itself, right, that's like one of the things you love.
We love our jobs. You love storylines. What's the better
story Packers housing the Steelers, Steelers being the Packers.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Let's be clear, I love my job. I don't want
Shapiro to think I don't love my job.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I do.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I really love storylines, and I like Aaron Rodgers. I've
always said this. In ten fifteen years, I think we're
going to look back on Aaron Rodgers, especially how things
are playing out with everything that's come out about COVID
and everything else. We're going to look back and be
like we were damn foolish for not taking advantage of
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a quarterback playing at this highest level, being the best
and the most popular sport in the country, who would
speak his mind, wouldn't speak in cliches, would speak his
mind and say interesting things. You might not agree with everything,
but he says thought provoking things. So every time he
takes the field, I root for him to win, and
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I root for him to win the Super Bowl. If
the Chargers aren't in the Super Bowl, I want I
want Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
To I'm rooting for the Steelers. I'll tell you why
in a second. The only thing I will push back
on Jase to is the lying about the when he
said he was they say he was inoculated him with
the immunized. Immunized. That killed everything that you said, because
his whole thing was he wanted to speak the truth,
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and then in his moment where he could have stood
up and said no, I got a different treatment, I
chose not to. He lied about it, and then since
then he's been digging out. I actually agree with you
on all the other stuff he's.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think he's been in the forefront of everything. I
don't think we're going to miss anything. I don't think
I think we've almost overcovered Aaron Rodgers at times.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I just think in regards to what Jason said, which
is a quarterback who's an MVP of the league that's
willing to actually speak their mind in this world of
the cliches. Jason has told everybody on air off air
that on his tombstone he wants he searched for the
opposite of whatever BS is. And that's why, like Saron Rodgers, right,
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my point is that sounds great that he's the one
guy that's not full of it, except for in the
one time when he had a chance to stand up
for something that he purports to believe in. He did
not stand up for the thing he poor ports to
believe in. Instead, he was full of it. There's the rub.
I still want to Aron Rodgers to win. I just
want to Ar Rodgers to win because anybody who's ever
left somewhere wants to beat the place they left, even
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if the other place didn't do them wrong. Right, Like
I got in trouble at Notre Dame. I almost went
to Marquette just because they played Notre Dame every year.
Why because I'm just a competitive jerk that way, And
I want to beat the team that I had to leave, right,
And you're when you leave ESPN to being there for
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a decade like I want to. I like mopping the
floor with them and the downfall of their radio network
and the rise of ours. Great. They did nothing wrong.
They offered me a five year contract. I walked away.
It's fine, good people. There doesn't change for Aaron Rodgers.
I don't think he was in the right. I don't
think he was crazily in the wrong. Think he overreacted
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to them drafting a quarterback. But whatever, Just the way
my mentality works, Like yeah, I'd kind of like him,
stick it to the man if you will, even if
all told like the Packers win. Think the Packers could
be a super Bowl team. At least they look like
it early in the season.
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Before we get to the college football picks of the weekend,
let me just ask you, I know you're on ABC News.
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How has this gambling scandal in the NBA or revolver
and how has that affected the folks in Vegas.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
It's weird, Doug, because every time, and this isn't the
first time that we've had one of these, obviously, I
think this is the biggest, it's the most widespread, certainly
involves the most higher profile players that we've seen.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Coaches too.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
But the pushback we always get and it always makes
my takes on gambling look a lot better when we
get a national gambling story and the national news media
chimes in about a topic they don't know a lot about.
Everybody wants to ban betting and prop betting, and my
response to that is, we tried this before it was prohibition,
and we tried to ban alcohol and it didn't work.
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And every time a dui happens, are we going to
try to get rid of alcohol like it? Just I
think we need to look bigger through the spectrum of
who is actually executing this. So if we get prop
bets that are eliminated in regulated markets here on shore,
what do you think the mob's gonna stop, you know,
trying to cheat? Like they're just going to go to
the offshore, unregulated markets where there is very little to
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no oversight and all of the security cameras are going
to be looking the other way. So the regulated markets,
although we do get bad actors sometimes that do bad
actor things, they are in place and they are actually
working appropriately. Because that's how we caught this, you know
syndicate going through this very you know intricate web of
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of of teams and players and bets and the system
worked properly. The question I have, and this is gonna
be the question I think we're gonna have to ask
going forward. The NBA investigated Terry Rozier and cleared him,
and the FBI said not so fast. So what did
the NBA not find or what did they find and
(18:59):
decide not to go after? That? To me is the
next step of this Because if the NBA says, ah, Rogier,
you're good, and then the FBI has hard evidence that
says no, you're not, I think that's the next level
that I'm very interested to see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's going to be fascinatings Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Tray, let's get some of these games from
this upcoming weekend. Okay Ole, Miss Oklahoma. I just that
one now, all of a sudden, I don't know if
you've seen the news. Lane Kiffen reportedly offered nearly one
hundred million dollars to be the head coach of Florida, right,
So you got to deal with that as some form
of distraction. Oklahoma bounced back from the Texas loss to
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the big win. They're five and a half point favorites
at home against the Reps.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Yeah, and you know, you look at this game and
if you just ignore the point spread and you say, oh,
Ole Miss is the higher ranked team, they should win. Well,
the point spread says Oklahoma is favored by more than
a field goal. So this is one of those scenarios
where the rankings you kind of throw them out and
you just look at each team objectively. Ole Miss last
week their defense was on the field for almost the
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entire game, and that's twofold. Hey, their defense struggles at
times to stop the run, and also their offense moves
so quickly that it doesn't give their defense a whole
lot of time to rest. And I think that's an
issue here in this game because Oklahoma's defense, right, I
think it's a chess match right between Lane and Brent Venables.
Those are both top of class in terms of coaching
their respective sides of the ball. Laye on offense, Brent
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on defense, and Oklahoma's defense is number one in a
lot of metrics, especially overall defense and pressure rate. So
I think that matchup is kind of a wash. I
think Lane will drow up some fun stuff that will
maybe put Oklahoma back on its heals a little bit.
But the problem is they run so fast and they're
unable to sustain drives that the Omas defense is kind
of left out to dry a little bit. And that's
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where I think Ben Arbuckle, Oklahoma offensive coordinator, probably is
gonna get more out of his running game.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Here.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
You would expect John Mattier to be a little bit healthier,
and I think that's kind of the bet here. I
like Oklahoma in the game, and I think if John
mattierrighty came back against Texas, didn't look good, played a
little bit better last week against South Carolina, but now
you would expect three weeks back from that thumb injury,
hopefully he gets a little more accuracy and a little
more consistency, and if his legs continue to be a factor.
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I loved what I saw from Oklahoma's traditional run game
last week. They've got a freshman Tory Blaylock, and another youngsters,
Avia Robinson. They both had good games and you throw
mateer back into the mix, like I think, Oklahoma, this
could be one of those games where Ole miss right.
You've got the Florida story hanging over Lane's head. You
got Oklahoma looks like a contender and Materier maybe a
Heisman contender. And I think Oklahoma gets this win at.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Home Bama taken on South Carolina. Bama has been going
through this kind of murderers row. South Carolina just got
stopped by by OU at home. Spreeds eleven and a
half totals forty seven and a half.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah, usually I stay away from double digit favorites in
the SEC. Last year they went six and twenty four
against the spread. I mean it's awful, Like, it's just
it's hard to win with margin in this conference, Doug,
and I think it's two reasons. Ay, you know, the
athletes are all comparable, so there's not as big of
a gap between the haves and the have nots, like
when the SEC plays a ACC team or a team
from a lower a Group of five conference. And another reason,
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I just I think the clock, right, I mean, you know,
you get these new clock rules where the you know
it's not stopping every first down. It's just harder to
win by double digits. How much life the South Carolina
have left? Right, they're kind of on the last legs
with their coach as well. I don't love what I've
seen from their defense all year. I think Sellers has
been a not a bust, but he's definitely underachieved the expectation.
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And Alabama listen, the Florida State games funky, but they've
got the best resume in the country. They've got four
wins against current ranked teams. No other team in the
country has more than two. So I think BAM is
the real deal. And they get kind of a breather
this week. Does that mean they cover, Maybe, but I
definitely think they win this game.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
A and M LSU LSU hanging on by a threat
of their playoff hopes. This one's under lights in Baton
Rouge and the Tigers are two and a half point
dog at home.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yeah, they're kind of begging you to lay it on
the road. With A and M right undefeated team. They
look like a juggernaut at least on both sides of
the ball. Very dynamic run game. The one thing I
did and I did a film study on A and
M's offense this week against his LSU defense, a lot
of eye candy. All of their backs are capable to
catch the ball out of the backfield. Marcel Reads a
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dual threat, so you don't know if they're running it
or throwing it. They run a lot of twenty one personnel.
What's that two running backs, one tight end. And when
you got two running backs in the backfield, you got
play action going one way, you got another running back
coming out of the backfield going the other way, and
you got Reed who can throw it out of the
RPO game Like, It's just you need to have incredible
eye discipline as a linebacker in order to defend that. Well,
here's the problem. LSU's best linebacker, whit Weeks, isn't gonna
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play and overall Blake Baker's scheme could be very chaotic,
but they also get out of their run lanes often
because their linebackers don't have the greatest eye discipline. So
I do think A and M's offense is gonna have
success in this game. Now, on the other side of
the ball, LSU's kind of in that desperation spot. I
need to see more from Garrett Nussmeyer one out of
sixteen this year on throws twenty five or more yards downfield.
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Coming into the year, he was supposed to be a
Heisman candidate. They need a big ana him. He got
back on track a little bit last week against South Carolina.
Unlike the lang Kiffin situation, I don't think Brian Kelly's
going anywhere at LSU, and I think he pulls a
rabbit out of his hat night game death Valley. It
feels like a good spot to buy low on LSU.
How often are they a dog at home against a
team that is still unproven? Right, they're one road game
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for A and M. Or actually they play two road
games this year at Notre Dame shootout back and forth
could have gone either way, high scoring game, same thing
with Arkansas last week. They didn't cover the spread. So
my gut says A and M's the better team, but
my brain says LSU at home, the numbers kind of
dangling around the field goal, I probably would take the points.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Vanderbilt fresh off of beating LSU and Missouri fresh off
of beaten Auburn on the road in double overtime. Game
is in nash Vegas. The doors are their three point favorite.
Totals fifty two and a half.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
I think these are very similar teams. I think one
of these teams is going to make the College Fotball Playoff.
It's probably gonna be the winner. Of this one. I
like the fact that both teams are run first. I
like the fact that both teams are good on late downs.
They have a little bit of clutchness to them, especially
Vandy Diego Pavia. We've talked about him before, like he's
my favorite quarterback in college football right now. He's not
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gonna play in the NFL, but he is certainly one
of those elite, gritty college quarterbacks that just makes instinctual plays,
especially with his legs. Missouri's played some tough qbs though,
right defensively, Daniels Jackson, Arnold, Lonaros Sellers, those are all
guys that are big, strong, who can run, and I
don't necessarily think they're gonna be afraid of this Vandy offense.
(25:34):
I think, actually, if there's a strength of Missouri's team,
it's their front seven. We talked about him a couple
weeks ago when they played Bama. This front seven can
shut you down. And that's what scares me a little
bit about Vandy's. Right, they run a lot of that
A and M type stuff where it's a lot of
eye candy, a lot of quarterback power and counter and
all these movement moving parts up front. Vandy can be
a little sloppy with penalties. I think Missoo plays cleaner.
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The big edge that I see here is I don't
think Vandy's run defense is as buttoned up as some
of the numbers indicate. They have not played a team,
frankly who commits to the run and who has a
dangerous running game. The one team that even comes close
was Bama, but jam Miller got hurt in midway through
the game and Bama had a lead, so they were
kind of throttling down. I think Missouri goes into Nashville
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and gets this win.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
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you know, where you have kind of a condensed college
football schedule, most of them being SEC games, a condensed
NFL schedule where there's only a couple of good ones,
and you have the World Series, which I think should
be really really good, really competitive. I just can't tell you, honestly,
if people are going to care, right, Canada is going
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to care within some reason, right, and obviously Dodger fans
are going to care. But overall, like the give a
you know what, give a rip element to the mainstream
sports fan, I don't know if it's there. I do
know it's help by the fact that right now the
NBA has a scarlet letter and the NFL has six
teams on buy and college football. It's not a great weekend,
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not a great weekend. Kind of crazy though, Like last night, right,
Steph Curry unbelievable fourth quarter in overtime, but still hard
to talk NBA Shay Gilds Exander fifty five last night.
Hard to talk about NBA without mentioning the gambling scande
because that that's what gambling scandals, that's what scandals do.
They take over And as Jay Stu said, it's the
only time we're going to talk about NBA until Christmas, right,
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and yet all we're talking about is a scandal, all right?
Coming up next to The Doug Gottlieb Show. Wait to
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for just peaking in the tent. Peak how much does
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Series and things that resonate with that. Let's get you
to Dan Byer and get to the press.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
All right, Doug. The NFL has laid down the law
with the New York Giants. They were fined two hundred
thousand dollars for violating the NFL's concussion protocol in their
Week six matchup with the Eagles. Not only that, head
coach Brian Daboll was docked one hundred thousand dollars for
going into the blue tent when Jackson Dart was being
reviewed for that concussion. Cam Skataboo, the rookie running running back,
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also popped his head into the blue tent at one
time he got fined fifteen grand.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, it's like he's fine, he's fine, he's fine. Can
we hurry up? He's fine, he's fine, he's fine. You know,
a lot of this is about optics more than a reality,
and the NFL has to look like they and I
do think they care. I think this is one of
those Hey, you want to spend you want to spend
just sneezing. You want to spend an extra couple of
(30:11):
minutes to make sure and in the heat, I can
tell you, like, it's really really hard during game. I'll
give you it happened to me three times last year,
actually four where I had a player Anthony Roy obviously
broke his ankle. He's leading the country scoring in Santa Barbara.
But you know, and we've actually had to establish here's
how we're doing it. Because we're playing Providence. It's a
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two point game and Marcus Hall rolls his ankle and
you know, to get it checked out, they leave the floor, right.
So I'm like trying to get information. Somebody find the trainer.
Everybody else is so into the game. I just need
somebody to update me. Is he, how hurt is he?
Is he coming back? When is he coming back? What
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is the status going to be when he returns? All
of those things. So I will give day Ball a
pass because having been in that situation, just the lack
of Hey, I don't know, he's going to the tent
and I think he's fine, and I just is he
coming back or not? And I'm sure the whole time
Dart is sitting there going like, I'm fine. But this
is the way it rolls. Two hundred thousand steep, you know,
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in the grand scheme of things, how much the giants make.
It's not but that's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Well, Dabo getting one hundred grand he got, oh yeah,
a six figure fine for his role, all right? And
one other NFL story before we get to a week
eight and who's in and who's out. The new list
of Hall of Fame candidates from the Contributor class includes
Patriots owner Robert Kraft and late broadcaster Howard Cosell. Now,
a maximum of one candidate from the list of now
twenty one will be eligible for possible in Shriman. Could
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be a case where nobody gets him, but Cosell's on
the list. As is Bob Kraft. Also a couple of
other notables. Former Raiders executive Amy Trask is one of
the twenty one names still on the list, and the
late voice of NFL Films John Facenda as well.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I mean, I don't know how well Howard Cosell's not
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah, I thought, that's what I.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Thought, as well, this is Howard. Did you know that?
I there's a video. I gotta call my mom. She
has a VHS tape. I had a fifth grade presentation
mister mcfann's class, and I did it the whole thing
with a where I was imitating Howard Cosell. I was
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following myself around with a camp quda in Orange, California
as Howard Cosell. That's what. There's a video somewhere that
that exists. The crazy thing was at that point in time,
I don't know if Howard Cosell was still doing Monday
Night Football. I don't think he was. And it was
like a dated reference for fifth grade for my fifth
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grade class, because you know, most fifth graders at that
point they didn't watch Monday Night Football. They definitely didn't
know who Dandy Don Meredith was. That was before our
time I did. That's the kind of household I grew up.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
One of my favorite things when we watched Monday night football,
at least in our era, was Frank Gifford would start
the broadcast, but he would throw it to play by
play guy Al Michaels.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, it would be.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You know, hello, everybody, Hello, I'm in Cleveland. That's my
Keith Jackson. But it's kind of it's actually Frank Gifford
because he still had that sort of voice. But the
point being Al Michaels, the actual play by play guy
would slide in and then at the end you would
get Dan Dierdorf, Frank Allen Dan. That's why Frank got
top Bill.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
And Deardorf was he was kind of third wheel on
that thing.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yes, Jet, said coach Aaron Glenn still refused to name
a starting quarterback for their Week eight matchup in Cincinnati,
something we talked about a little bit earlier. It'll either
be justin Fields or to Rod Taylor starting Sunday with
Taylor nursing that knee injury.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, I mean it feels like everybody wants it to
be to Rod Taylor because he gives you hope to
win right away. But they're they're you know, you're paying
another guy forty million dollars over two years. I don't know.
I don't know how you throw a quarterback out there though,
where the owner says, if we could just complete a pass,
that's what he said, if we could just complete a pass.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
How do you come back from that one?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, no you can't. Justin Fields has tried to come
back from a lot of criticism. But that's a tough one.
I will say maybe Woody Johnson's ownership style over the
last couple of years maybe takes a little bit off
of the sting because the Jets have been in absolute mess.
One other story before we go, John Harbaugh's job status
has been put into under the microscope. I guess we
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could say as the Ravens are are off to an
extremely slow start this season, but it looks like they're
going to get Lamar Jackson back. He practiced fully on Friday.
Harbaugh did say today that Tyler Huntley would be the
starting quarterback if Jackson couldn't go, but Huntley would be
the backup as they face the Bears on Sunday. If
Jackson starts Ravens obviously one in five.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I mean, there's not legitimacy to his job being on
the line, is there. I mean, I guess, I guess
it's the idea that at some point everybody's message runs stale.
But I mean, since twenty eighteen, only the COVID year,
have they not won ten games.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I didn't say on the line, I said under the microscope. No.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
But one of the reasons is.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
But one of the reasons is is this team turned
to Cooper Rush over and they were completely overwhelmed. And
we had seen Tyler Huntley previously fill in for Lamar
Jackson and do decent at times, and so now they're
going back to Tyler Huntley as the backup. As the
Cooper Rush experiment, at least in Baltimore may have worked
in Dallas, didn't work in b More.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, I think that's And I also, I'm may be wrong,
but didn't they acquire Snoop Huntley like right when Lamar
went down, like it wasn't like he was with the Ravens,
and then they chose Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush was the backup.
Lamar goes down, they go to Cooper Rush.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Shnoop Puntley spent time with the Browns in training camp. However,
there was the decision that Cooper Rush was the backup
to Lamar for this season. So it was just their
decision on Cooper Rush.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, I mean again, you're you're gonna miss some And
it is weird that they didn't turn the snoop hunt
Ley when he had been so good as a backup before.
But you know, in the we don't have to be
all results oriented. But when you've won ten, fourteen, eleven,
ten thirteen, twelve, and the only exception of a below
five hundred year was that that COVID year, which was
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weird and wonkey for everybody, obviously this year is bad.
But I mean it's it's not like it had been
trending this way. I have been trending this way at all.
I've been traded this way. And that is that's press.
All right, that's it for the press. Obviously you got picks,
you got previews. Look, I know that Jase dou has
(36:51):
so much invested in this in this uh, the Dodgers,
I do think that this is a team. It's a
big market team. They pay a lot of money. I'm
talking about the Blue Jays, so it's not David versus Goliath,
but the perception is always going to be that the
Dodgers are, in fact David.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You lose your top setup man when your bullpen has
been called into question. I don't love it. I do
still think that Dodgers find a way, and I am
really excited to watch this World Series because I'd like
to have a dominant team. I'd like to have the
Dodgers win it again back to back because then it
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makes kind of what we've had in football, kind of
what we've had in basketball. You have to have one
of those top teams to have a David for other
teams to take shots at them in future years. That's
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome in Hope. You're having a great day, getting ready
for a great weekend celebrated with some sports fall us
here mid October, Green Bay, Wisconsin. We're waiting on one
game for the Packers, and then we're a week in
three days away from a first game for my Green
Bay Phoenix. Welcome in Hope. The world is treating you okay.
(00:41):
Here on a Friday, got game one of the World
Series tonight. We got NBA games tonight. College football kind
of a slate of college football. There's a couple of
good games, mostly not w SEC, NFL. Same thing. There's
like one or two games. Not a great football weekend.
(01:03):
Should be a good weekend for baseball. Good weekend for baseball.
I want to start with the game of the weekend,
that everybody's gonna talk about is the Packers and taking
on Aaron Rodgers and the the Pittsburgh Steelers. First thing
is so so Dan, Let me get this straight. Neither
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of them are wearing their traditional uniforms in this game.
This in the traditional uniform world. This is as good
as it gets. Right. Steelers at home should be wearing
their blacks with their yellow pants, and the Packers should
be wearing their road whites also with their yellow pants.
That's not going to happen. I like what the Packers
(01:47):
are doing, you know, wearing the those all whites are cool,
but I don't think this is the game to do that,
right that that feels like a Thursday night thing, not
a Sunday night thing. Sunday night Packers shouldn't they be
wearing their traditional uniforms.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, they both should be, but that's not how things
work in the NFL. I don't mind the Packers want
as much. Again, they just need a gold stripe on
the helmet. It's the medieval times thing that the Steelers
are that they're going to be wearing. That just bothers me.
The brown pants, whatever they've got, whatever pattern that is
on the front of their jersey, the shield. That's just
(02:25):
I just I understand not forgetting the past, but this
just doesn't do anything for anybody except maybe sell a
few more jerseys for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Is anybody gonna buy that thing?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Oh yeah, there will be. I just don't know if
they'll make their money back on it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It is uh yeah, it's ugly and it's it just
does nothing for the game. There's just so much about
dress is what's appropriate, not about if you actually dress well.
It's one of the things I love about Green Bay,
Wisconsin is there's nothing ever that's kind of inappropriate in
terms of dressing down right. You go to a bar
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and you know this Dan, It's like you're sitting next
to the guy. He's wearing jeans and boots and you're like,
he could be a multi millionaire or he could have
just got done working on my truck in the shop.
There's no no real difference there. So how you dressing?
Being underdressed like this is one where it's pretty simple.
It's pretty simple. Packers, Steelers, let's not screw it up.
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Where's something that resembles your traditional uniforms, because these are
the ones in which those images are going to go
out for years and years and years on. Remember when
Aaron Rodgers. I mean, look, I remember when the Packers
took on the Vikings at home and Brett Favre came
in and won the game. The Vikings were wearing their
traditional uniforms. Why or as a boomer would say a ESPN,
(03:50):
what and then there's something else that go ahead? I'm sorry,
I just said what what?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeh? But Rogers is doing that kind of grandfather thing
right where, you know, it's it's his kind of waning days,
and so he's talking nice when like, were you that
nice a long time ago? Here's Aaron Rodgers talking about
his time in green Bay and Green Bay is gonna
have a good team this year. It was a game today,
hirod Ella distant play?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
He is limited, okay, all right today?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And he is questionable.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And I like the way those guys are trended.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So are you able to tell us who's guys?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Feel so good about my time?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Man?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Because them there Everything great in my life is because
of you know, my football career, and my football career
starts and we'll end one day with with Green Bay.
So we got a lot of love for all those
memories and a lot of great friends that still carry
with me to this day.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
He says he it will end with Green Bay? Does
does that mean the Packers are going to do one
of those one day contract things? Right? Because there is
the We're like, wait, is he gonna come back to
Green Bay as a backup quarterback to Jordan Love. I'm
gonna tell you what. The best thing that happened to
Aaron Rodgers is Jordan Love's good, but he's in comparison
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to Aaron Rodgers just Okay, that's that's the reality of it.
Living in this town. It's it was. It was kind
of a marriage that had to end at some point.
Him getting hurt and not having you know, greatness and
not rubbing it in the face of the Packers I
think helped. I think there's a younger generation of people
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that they grew up with Aaron Rodgers, love Aaron Rodgers,
and they they're never going to see the bad side.
And then I think what adds to that is Jordan
Love's not been bad, but he hasn't been great, and
that helps build up Aaron Rodgers legacy. And then I
think the last part is Aaron Rodgers is pretty good.
To Jordan Love, whereas far was not great to Aaron
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Rodgers for a long time. And I think they're seeing
different very differently. Despite the fact there are two Hall
of Fame quarterbacks that each won a Super Bowl, that
each left Green Bay and both situations in which they
left both left for the Jets, and they were both
kind of weird now they left. Rogers is still more beloved,
I think than Farvies now. As a native Wisconsinite, how
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do you view Aaron Rodgers today, especially now when he's
saying only nice things about Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I think in time that he'll be welcome back, just
like Brett Favre was welcome back, and I think that
day will come for Aaron Rodgers. The unfortunate thing about
this matchup is that it's in Pittsburgh, and so we
can try to play up this. Rogers faces his former team,
faces his former head coach. I think that there's something there,
but again, it's Rogers played mostly with Mike McCarthy, so
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there's that aspect of it. It would be completely different
if this game was in Green Bay, and I'd be
curious to see the reception that Rogers got. I think
that was loved more than Rogers was, but when Farv
did leave for Minnesota, that was something that certain Packer
fans couldn't get over. At that time, Rogers playing for
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the Jets and then the Steelers doesn't interfere with the
Packers world in a way, but going to the hated
rival of Minnesota, when many Packer fans stuck with stuck
with Farv when he went to the Jets. I know
I've told this story before on this show, but the
CBS affiliate in Milwaukee requested that they air they get
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the Jets games to air in their market because they
had the AFC package. It was before Fox and CBS
could exchange AFC and NFC games, when CBS was basically
the home of the AFC. The market in Milwaukee asked
to carry Jets games when FAV was in New York
because there was a contingent of fans that wanted to
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watch Farv. I don't think that happened with Aaron Rodgers
so and also because this is happening again that there's
another quarterback. So while far like burned Bridges by going
to Minnesota, I don't think that he was as loved
as FARVZ. But I do think there will be a
day where Aaron Rodgers will get his day in the
sun in Green Bay again.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know, there is another side to it being in Pittsburgh.
It does feel very un Pittsburgh like though, to have
Aaron Rodgers be their quarterback. And look, I can't tell
you that I've studied Pittsburgh Steeler history or Pittsburgh Steeler lore, right,
it's really interesting on how nobody mentions the Bubby Bridsters
(08:39):
of the world, the Cordell Stewart. So this role win
Slash was their guy. They went to Tommy Maddox and tried
to spread it out and ran Tommy Gunn the offense whatever.
But the Steelers. For the Steelers to take on somebody
else's legend, right is it's just not Steeler like. And
I know they did it last year with Russell Wilson
as well. This is a very different way for the
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Steelers to do business. Their two Super Bowl winning quarterbacks
were drafted by the Steelers and played for the Steelers.
Roethlisberger never played for anybody else. So it does it
feels like a brave new world for the Steelers, whereas
the Packers have actually been through this before. And then
I also think and you brought up the time, will
(09:24):
it's the old time? Will heal all old wounds? This
is a lot like a divorce right where they're each
dating somebody else now and the Packers like, yeah, we're good,
we have Jordan Love, we love Jordan Love. Right, their
relationship was sort of complicated when they got them, and
now it's kind of worked out. But I'm sure there's
anybody who watches, and I know this from so many everybody,
(09:47):
here's a Packer fan is the hey, I love Jordan
love the person like he's easy, he's not. There's not
as much Aaron can be hard, but he's not not
as good as Aaron Rodgers or nor has he been
even close to Aaron Rodgers when Aaron was twenty seven,
Like not close? And then you know, and then I
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think Packers fans who would be jealous or sit there
and go like, hey, look at who Aaron Rodgers dated
for two years, dated the Jets for two years. Now
with the Steelers, it's like it feels like the Packers
dated somebody half their half the age of their last spouse,
and Aaron Rodgers went with somebody his own age. Doesn't
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it like the Steelers are kind of traditional, and you
know they're they're I think they're playing up his experience,
They're using it, they're leaning on it. It does feel
like he's dated somebody sort of his own age after
trying to date somebody wild post divorce, and the Green
Bay Packers have have taken on somebody young, stable and
(10:57):
kind of trying to mold them into the in the
significant other that they want Jordan Love to be. That's,
by the way, my most Colhurdian parallel that I could
I could find.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'll tell you talk you talk about dating Doug. It
is interesting because when you compare Farv Love by Wisconsin
people during his time there and Rogers Love. You know,
Farv and his wife Deanna were very visible, and Deanna's
battle through cancer made far you know, even more relatable,
(11:35):
and so she was a part of the fabric of
the community. What's interesting is Rogers had celebrity relationships in
the smallest market that there is. But when even when
when Rogers was leaving Green Bay, you would hear conversations
of places that Rogers would go, Rogers would eat, and
no one had a bad thing to say about him.
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So those direct one on one conversations or the places
that he would go locally. There was nothing negative ever
said about Aaron Rodgers. But it's funny on just on
how their how their lives were viewed, because I think
Brett favre Rogers California kid, right, kid from cal West
Coast comes to Green Bay. Farv's the old Mississippi bumpkin,
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you know, coming up north. Loves to hunt and fish
and do that stuff, which a lot of people like
to do in that area, you know, a little bit
more relatable. I don't know. They love them just the same,
but they the Packer fans loved them both for a
variety of different reasons, and the different reasons that they
had were interesting when you compare one to the other
as well.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You some of the Aaron Rodgers recent stuff wears the out.
You're rooting for Rogers. You're rooting for the Packers in
a game in which you have no you have no
real rooting interest.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Who am I rooting for Steelers helps the Seahawks?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay, Yeah, that's an out of the way that I
never even thought of. That angle it, Jay, dude, You
love you love stories like this more than the actual
games itself, right, that's like one of the things you love.
We love our jobs. You love storylines. What's the better
story Packers housing the Steelers, Steelers being the Packers.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Let's be clear, I love my job. I don't want
Shapiro to think I don't love my job.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I do.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I really love storylines, and I like Aaron Rodgers. I've
always said this. In ten fifteen years, I think we're
going to look back on Aaron Rodgers, especially how things
are playing out with everything that's come out about COVID
and everything else. We're going to look back and be
like we were damn foolish for not taking advantage of
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a quarterback playing at this highest level, being the best
and the most popular sport in the country, who would
speak his mind, wouldn't speak in cliches, would speak his
mind and say interesting things. You might not agree with everything,
but he says thought provoking things. So every time he
takes the field, I root for him to win, and
(14:08):
I root for him to win the Super Bowl. If
the Chargers aren't in the Super Bowl, I want I
want Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
To I'm rooting for the Steelers. I'll tell you why
in a second. The only thing I will push back
on Jase to is the lying about the when he
said he was they say he was inoculated him with
the immunized. Immunized. That killed everything that you said, because
his whole thing was he wanted to speak the truth,
(14:34):
and then in his moment where he could have stood
up and said no, I got a different treatment, I
chose not to. He lied about it, and then since
then he's been digging out. I actually agree with you
on all the other stuff he's.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think he's been in the forefront of everything. I
don't think we're going to miss anything. I don't think
I think we've almost overcovered Aaron Rodgers at times.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I just think in regards to what Jason said, which
is a quarterback who's an MVP of the league that's
willing to actually speak their mind in this world of
the cliches. Jason has told everybody on air off air
that on his tombstone he wants he searched for the
opposite of whatever BS is. And that's why, like Saron Rodgers, right,
(15:19):
my point is that sounds great that he's the one
guy that's not full of it, except for in the
one time when he had a chance to stand up
for something that he purports to believe in. He did
not stand up for the thing he poor ports to
believe in. Instead, he was full of it. There's the rub.
I still want to Aron Rodgers to win. I just
want to Ar Rodgers to win because anybody who's ever
left somewhere wants to beat the place they left, even
(15:42):
if the other place didn't do them wrong. Right, Like
I got in trouble at Notre Dame. I almost went
to Marquette just because they played Notre Dame every year.
Why because I'm just a competitive jerk that way, And
I want to beat the team that I had to leave, right,
And you're when you leave ESPN to being there for
(16:02):
a decade like I want to. I like mopping the
floor with them and the downfall of their radio network
and the rise of ours. Great. They did nothing wrong.
They offered me a five year contract. I walked away.
It's fine, good people. There doesn't change for Aaron Rodgers.
I don't think he was in the right. I don't
think he was crazily in the wrong. Think he overreacted
(16:22):
to them drafting a quarterback. But whatever, Just the way
my mentality works, Like yeah, I'd kind of like him,
stick it to the man if you will, even if
all told like the Packers win. Think the Packers could
be a super Bowl team. At least they look like
it early in the season.
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Before we get to the college football picks of the weekend,
let me just ask you, I know you're on ABC News.
(17:13):
How has this gambling scandal in the NBA or revolver
and how has that affected the folks in Vegas.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
It's weird, Doug, because every time, and this isn't the
first time that we've had one of these, obviously, I
think this is the biggest, it's the most widespread, certainly
involves the most higher profile players that we've seen.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Coaches too.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
But the pushback we always get and it always makes
my takes on gambling look a lot better when we
get a national gambling story and the national news media
chimes in about a topic they don't know a lot about.
Everybody wants to ban betting and prop betting, and my
response to that is, we tried this before it was prohibition,
and we tried to ban alcohol and it didn't work.
(17:54):
And every time a dui happens, are we going to
try to get rid of alcohol like it? Just I
think we need to look bigger through the spectrum of
who is actually executing this. So if we get prop
bets that are eliminated in regulated markets here on shore,
what do you think the mob's gonna stop, you know,
trying to cheat? Like they're just going to go to
the offshore, unregulated markets where there is very little to
(18:17):
no oversight and all of the security cameras are going
to be looking the other way. So the regulated markets,
although we do get bad actors sometimes that do bad
actor things, they are in place and they are actually
working appropriately. Because that's how we caught this, you know
syndicate going through this very you know intricate web of
(18:37):
of of teams and players and bets and the system
worked properly. The question I have, and this is gonna
be the question I think we're gonna have to ask
going forward. The NBA investigated Terry Rozier and cleared him,
and the FBI said not so fast. So what did
the NBA not find or what did they find and
(18:59):
decide not to go after? That? To me is the
next step of this Because if the NBA says, ah, Rogier,
you're good, and then the FBI has hard evidence that
says no, you're not, I think that's the next level
that I'm very interested to see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's going to be fascinatings Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Tray, let's get some of these games from
this upcoming weekend. Okay Ole, Miss Oklahoma. I just that
one now, all of a sudden, I don't know if
you've seen the news. Lane Kiffen reportedly offered nearly one
hundred million dollars to be the head coach of Florida, right,
So you got to deal with that as some form
of distraction. Oklahoma bounced back from the Texas loss to
(19:36):
the big win. They're five and a half point favorites
at home against the Reps.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Yeah, and you know, you look at this game and
if you just ignore the point spread and you say, oh,
Ole Miss is the higher ranked team, they should win. Well,
the point spread says Oklahoma is favored by more than
a field goal. So this is one of those scenarios
where the rankings you kind of throw them out and
you just look at each team objectively. Ole Miss last
week their defense was on the field for almost the
(20:01):
entire game, and that's twofold. Hey, their defense struggles at
times to stop the run, and also their offense moves
so quickly that it doesn't give their defense a whole
lot of time to rest. And I think that's an
issue here in this game because Oklahoma's defense, right, I
think it's a chess match right between Lane and Brent Venables.
Those are both top of class in terms of coaching
their respective sides of the ball. Laye on offense, Brent
(20:21):
on defense, and Oklahoma's defense is number one in a
lot of metrics, especially overall defense and pressure rate. So
I think that matchup is kind of a wash. I
think Lane will drow up some fun stuff that will
maybe put Oklahoma back on its heals a little bit.
But the problem is they run so fast and they're
unable to sustain drives that the Omas defense is kind
of left out to dry a little bit. And that's
(20:42):
where I think Ben Arbuckle, Oklahoma offensive coordinator, probably is
gonna get more out of his running game.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Here.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
You would expect John Mattier to be a little bit healthier,
and I think that's kind of the bet here. I
like Oklahoma in the game, and I think if John
mattierrighty came back against Texas, didn't look good, played a
little bit better last week against South Carolina, but now
you would expect three weeks back from that thumb injury,
hopefully he gets a little more accuracy and a little
more consistency, and if his legs continue to be a factor.
(21:10):
I loved what I saw from Oklahoma's traditional run game
last week. They've got a freshman Tory Blaylock, and another youngsters,
Avia Robinson. They both had good games and you throw
mateer back into the mix, like I think, Oklahoma, this
could be one of those games where Ole miss right.
You've got the Florida story hanging over Lane's head. You
got Oklahoma looks like a contender and Materier maybe a
Heisman contender. And I think Oklahoma gets this win at.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Home Bama taken on South Carolina. Bama has been going
through this kind of murderers row. South Carolina just got
stopped by by OU at home. Spreeds eleven and a
half totals forty seven and a half.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah, usually I stay away from double digit favorites in
the SEC. Last year they went six and twenty four
against the spread. I mean it's awful, Like, it's just
it's hard to win with margin in this conference, Doug,
and I think it's two reasons. Ay, you know, the
athletes are all comparable, so there's not as big of
a gap between the haves and the have nots, like
when the SEC plays a ACC team or a team
from a lower a Group of five conference. And another reason,
(22:03):
I just I think the clock, right, I mean, you know,
you get these new clock rules where the you know
it's not stopping every first down. It's just harder to
win by double digits. How much life the South Carolina
have left? Right, they're kind of on the last legs
with their coach as well. I don't love what I've
seen from their defense all year. I think Sellers has
been a not a bust, but he's definitely underachieved the expectation.
(22:24):
And Alabama listen, the Florida State games funky, but they've
got the best resume in the country. They've got four
wins against current ranked teams. No other team in the
country has more than two. So I think BAM is
the real deal. And they get kind of a breather
this week. Does that mean they cover, Maybe, but I
definitely think they win this game.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
A and M LSU LSU hanging on by a threat
of their playoff hopes. This one's under lights in Baton
Rouge and the Tigers are two and a half point
dog at home.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yeah, they're kind of begging you to lay it on
the road. With A and M right undefeated team. They
look like a juggernaut at least on both sides of
the ball. Very dynamic run game. The one thing I
did and I did a film study on A and
M's offense this week against his LSU defense, a lot
of eye candy. All of their backs are capable to
catch the ball out of the backfield. Marcel Reads a
(23:14):
dual threat, so you don't know if they're running it
or throwing it. They run a lot of twenty one personnel.
What's that two running backs, one tight end. And when
you got two running backs in the backfield, you got
play action going one way, you got another running back
coming out of the backfield going the other way, and
you got Reed who can throw it out of the
RPO game Like, It's just you need to have incredible
eye discipline as a linebacker in order to defend that. Well,
here's the problem. LSU's best linebacker, whit Weeks, isn't gonna
(23:35):
play and overall Blake Baker's scheme could be very chaotic,
but they also get out of their run lanes often
because their linebackers don't have the greatest eye discipline. So
I do think A and M's offense is gonna have
success in this game. Now, on the other side of
the ball, LSU's kind of in that desperation spot. I
need to see more from Garrett Nussmeyer one out of
sixteen this year on throws twenty five or more yards downfield.
(23:57):
Coming into the year, he was supposed to be a
Heisman candidate. They need a big ana him. He got
back on track a little bit last week against South Carolina.
Unlike the lang Kiffin situation, I don't think Brian Kelly's
going anywhere at LSU, and I think he pulls a
rabbit out of his hat night game death Valley. It
feels like a good spot to buy low on LSU.
How often are they a dog at home against a
team that is still unproven? Right, they're one road game
(24:19):
for A and M. Or actually they play two road
games this year at Notre Dame shootout back and forth
could have gone either way, high scoring game, same thing
with Arkansas last week. They didn't cover the spread. So
my gut says A and M's the better team, but
my brain says LSU at home, the numbers kind of
dangling around the field goal, I probably would take the points.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Vanderbilt fresh off of beating LSU and Missouri fresh off
of beaten Auburn on the road in double overtime. Game
is in nash Vegas. The doors are their three point favorite.
Totals fifty two and a half.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
I think these are very similar teams. I think one
of these teams is going to make the College Fotball Playoff.
It's probably gonna be the winner. Of this one. I
like the fact that both teams are run first. I
like the fact that both teams are good on late downs.
They have a little bit of clutchness to them, especially
Vandy Diego Pavia. We've talked about him before, like he's
my favorite quarterback in college football right now. He's not
(25:13):
gonna play in the NFL, but he is certainly one
of those elite, gritty college quarterbacks that just makes instinctual plays,
especially with his legs. Missouri's played some tough qbs though,
right defensively, Daniels Jackson, Arnold, Lonaros Sellers, those are all
guys that are big, strong, who can run, and I
don't necessarily think they're gonna be afraid of this Vandy offense.
(25:34):
I think, actually, if there's a strength of Missouri's team,
it's their front seven. We talked about him a couple
weeks ago when they played Bama. This front seven can
shut you down. And that's what scares me a little
bit about Vandy's. Right, they run a lot of that
A and M type stuff where it's a lot of
eye candy, a lot of quarterback power and counter and
all these movement moving parts up front. Vandy can be
a little sloppy with penalties. I think Missoo plays cleaner.
(25:55):
The big edge that I see here is I don't
think Vandy's run defense is as buttoned up as some
of the numbers indicate. They have not played a team,
frankly who commits to the run and who has a
dangerous running game. The one team that even comes close
was Bama, but jam Miller got hurt in midway through
the game and Bama had a lead, so they were
kind of throttling down. I think Missouri goes into Nashville
(26:16):
and gets this win.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
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(26:37):
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(27:01):
you know, where you have kind of a condensed college
football schedule, most of them being SEC games, a condensed
NFL schedule where there's only a couple of good ones,
and you have the World Series, which I think should
be really really good, really competitive. I just can't tell you, honestly,
if people are going to care, right, Canada is going
(27:21):
to care within some reason, right, and obviously Dodger fans
are going to care. But overall, like the give a
you know what, give a rip element to the mainstream
sports fan, I don't know if it's there. I do
know it's help by the fact that right now the
NBA has a scarlet letter and the NFL has six
teams on buy and college football. It's not a great weekend,
(27:43):
not a great weekend. Kind of crazy though, Like last night, right,
Steph Curry unbelievable fourth quarter in overtime, but still hard
to talk NBA Shay Gilds Exander fifty five last night.
Hard to talk about NBA without mentioning the gambling scande
because that that's what gambling scandals, that's what scandals do.
They take over And as Jay Stu said, it's the
only time we're going to talk about NBA until Christmas, right,
(28:07):
and yet all we're talking about is a scandal, all right?
Coming up next to The Doug Gottlieb Show. Wait to
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NFL football. Probably most importantly, not probably, is the World
(29:17):
Series and things that resonate with that. Let's get you
to Dan Byer and get to the press.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
All right, Doug. The NFL has laid down the law
with the New York Giants. They were fined two hundred
thousand dollars for violating the NFL's concussion protocol in their
Week six matchup with the Eagles. Not only that, head
coach Brian Daboll was docked one hundred thousand dollars for
going into the blue tent when Jackson Dart was being
reviewed for that concussion. Cam Skataboo, the rookie running running back,
(29:46):
also popped his head into the blue tent at one
time he got fined fifteen grand.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, it's like he's fine, he's fine, he's fine. Can
we hurry up? He's fine, he's fine, he's fine. You know,
a lot of this is about optics more than a reality,
and the NFL has to look like they and I
do think they care. I think this is one of
those Hey, you want to spend you want to spend
just sneezing. You want to spend an extra couple of
(30:11):
minutes to make sure and in the heat, I can
tell you, like, it's really really hard during game. I'll
give you it happened to me three times last year,
actually four where I had a player Anthony Roy obviously
broke his ankle. He's leading the country scoring in Santa Barbara.
But you know, and we've actually had to establish here's
how we're doing it. Because we're playing Providence. It's a
(30:31):
two point game and Marcus Hall rolls his ankle and
you know, to get it checked out, they leave the floor, right.
So I'm like trying to get information. Somebody find the trainer.
Everybody else is so into the game. I just need
somebody to update me. Is he, how hurt is he?
Is he coming back? When is he coming back? What
(30:52):
is the status going to be when he returns? All
of those things. So I will give day Ball a
pass because having been in that situation, just the lack
of Hey, I don't know, he's going to the tent
and I think he's fine, and I just is he
coming back or not? And I'm sure the whole time
Dart is sitting there going like, I'm fine. But this
is the way it rolls. Two hundred thousand steep, you know,
(31:14):
in the grand scheme of things, how much the giants make.
It's not but that's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Well, Dabo getting one hundred grand he got, oh yeah,
a six figure fine for his role, all right? And
one other NFL story before we get to a week
eight and who's in and who's out. The new list
of Hall of Fame candidates from the Contributor class includes
Patriots owner Robert Kraft and late broadcaster Howard Cosell. Now,
a maximum of one candidate from the list of now
twenty one will be eligible for possible in Shriman. Could
(31:41):
be a case where nobody gets him, but Cosell's on
the list. As is Bob Kraft. Also a couple of
other notables. Former Raiders executive Amy Trask is one of
the twenty one names still on the list, and the
late voice of NFL Films John Facenda as well.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I mean, I don't know how well Howard Cosell's not
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah, I thought, that's what I.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Thought, as well, this is Howard. Did you know that?
I there's a video. I gotta call my mom. She
has a VHS tape. I had a fifth grade presentation
mister mcfann's class, and I did it the whole thing
with a where I was imitating Howard Cosell. I was
(32:28):
following myself around with a camp quda in Orange, California
as Howard Cosell. That's what. There's a video somewhere that
that exists. The crazy thing was at that point in time,
I don't know if Howard Cosell was still doing Monday
Night Football. I don't think he was. And it was
like a dated reference for fifth grade for my fifth
(32:51):
grade class, because you know, most fifth graders at that
point they didn't watch Monday Night Football. They definitely didn't
know who Dandy Don Meredith was. That was before our
time I did. That's the kind of household I grew up.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
One of my favorite things when we watched Monday night football,
at least in our era, was Frank Gifford would start
the broadcast, but he would throw it to play by
play guy Al Michaels.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, it would be.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You know, hello, everybody, Hello, I'm in Cleveland. That's my
Keith Jackson. But it's kind of it's actually Frank Gifford
because he still had that sort of voice. But the
point being Al Michaels, the actual play by play guy
would slide in and then at the end you would
get Dan Dierdorf, Frank Allen Dan. That's why Frank got
top Bill.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
And Deardorf was he was kind of third wheel on
that thing.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yes, Jet, said coach Aaron Glenn still refused to name
a starting quarterback for their Week eight matchup in Cincinnati,
something we talked about a little bit earlier. It'll either
be justin Fields or to Rod Taylor starting Sunday with
Taylor nursing that knee injury.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, I mean it feels like everybody wants it to
be to Rod Taylor because he gives you hope to
win right away. But they're they're you know, you're paying
another guy forty million dollars over two years. I don't know.
I don't know how you throw a quarterback out there though,
where the owner says, if we could just complete a pass,
that's what he said, if we could just complete a pass.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
How do you come back from that one?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, no you can't. Justin Fields has tried to come
back from a lot of criticism. But that's a tough one.
I will say maybe Woody Johnson's ownership style over the
last couple of years maybe takes a little bit off
of the sting because the Jets have been in absolute mess.
One other story before we go, John Harbaugh's job status
has been put into under the microscope. I guess we
(34:37):
could say as the Ravens are are off to an
extremely slow start this season, but it looks like they're
going to get Lamar Jackson back. He practiced fully on Friday.
Harbaugh did say today that Tyler Huntley would be the
starting quarterback if Jackson couldn't go, but Huntley would be
the backup as they face the Bears on Sunday. If
Jackson starts Ravens obviously one in five.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I mean, there's not legitimacy to his job being on
the line, is there. I mean, I guess, I guess
it's the idea that at some point everybody's message runs stale.
But I mean, since twenty eighteen, only the COVID year,
have they not won ten games.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I didn't say on the line, I said under the microscope. No.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
But one of the reasons is.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
But one of the reasons is is this team turned
to Cooper Rush over and they were completely overwhelmed. And
we had seen Tyler Huntley previously fill in for Lamar
Jackson and do decent at times, and so now they're
going back to Tyler Huntley as the backup. As the
Cooper Rush experiment, at least in Baltimore may have worked
in Dallas, didn't work in b More.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, I think that's And I also, I'm may be wrong,
but didn't they acquire Snoop Huntley like right when Lamar
went down, like it wasn't like he was with the Ravens,
and then they chose Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush was the backup.
Lamar goes down, they go to Cooper Rush.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Shnoop Puntley spent time with the Browns in training camp. However,
there was the decision that Cooper Rush was the backup
to Lamar for this season. So it was just their
decision on Cooper Rush.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, I mean again, you're you're gonna miss some And
it is weird that they didn't turn the snoop hunt
Ley when he had been so good as a backup before.
But you know, in the we don't have to be
all results oriented. But when you've won ten, fourteen, eleven,
ten thirteen, twelve, and the only exception of a below
five hundred year was that that COVID year, which was
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weird and wonkey for everybody, obviously this year is bad.
But I mean it's it's not like it had been
trending this way. I have been trending this way at all.
I've been traded this way. And that is that's press.
All right, that's it for the press. Obviously you got picks,
you got previews. Look, I know that Jase dou has
(36:51):
so much invested in this in this uh, the Dodgers,
I do think that this is a team. It's a
big market team. They pay a lot of money. I'm
talking about the Blue Jays, so it's not David versus Goliath,
but the perception is always going to be that the
Dodgers are, in fact David.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You lose your top setup man when your bullpen has
been called into question. I don't love it. I do
still think that Dodgers find a way, and I am
really excited to watch this World Series because I'd like
to have a dominant team. I'd like to have the
Dodgers win it again back to back because then it
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makes kind of what we've had in football, kind of
what we've had in basketball. You have to have one
of those top teams to have a David for other
teams to take shots at them in future years. That's
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