June 6, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug dives into the news of Aaron Rodgers finally signing with the Steelers. Dan perfectly called the ending of Game 1 yesterday. Former NFL GM mark Dominik stops by to look at what the Rodgers signing means for the AFC. Plus, Novak Djokovic falls short of history!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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doo doo, doo doo doo. So the way I look
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at it with with sports radio is, let's not over
complicate it. Hey, it's two stories today and only two
that matter. We addressed the first one, which is unbelievable
come back by the Pacers and when what happens down
in Oklahoma City all those things, and we'll get to
some of that too in in hour two. But the
other thing is Aaron Rodgers is a Pittsburgh Steeler. He's
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a Pittsburgh Steeler. That happened yesterday, And I do think
it's funny that Aaron Rodgers was kind of shown up
by the President Elon Musk going at it yesterday, you're like, hey, hey,
I signed, I'm going to Pittsburgh. Not official, but released,
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and everybody knows what's going to happen. But because Elon
is tweeting about Potis and then Potus is apparently giving
back the tesla that he got that he received on
the White House lawn, that's amazing theater and it out
shown Aaron Rodgers back into the Nation Football League. But
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I just I don't know how anyone thinks this is
not a great thing outside of for Mason Rudolf, and
even Mason Rudolf, you're sitting there going like, yeah, this sucks,
but you would have to think that Mason and the
Steelers knew a long time ago. And oh yeah, by
the way, there's no definite that Aaron Rodgers plays every
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game or that Aaron Rodgers finishes the season because he
has had health issues and he is older. But outside
of Mason Rudolf, who wouldn't be crazy excited about this?
Not because it makes the Steelers great it makes the
Steelers really interesting. And you can say whatever you want
to say about Rogers. You don't like his appearances on McAfee,
you don't like his defiance on that in vaccines or
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some of the things he says. You're entitled to your opinion.
You're entitled in your opinion about how good he was,
how good he is now. You are entitled to that.
What you're not entitled to do is say, yeah, I'd
prefer to see Mason Rudolph play to Aaron Rodgers play again.
Mason's a friend of mine, literally hung out text whatever.
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He's good dude, And I told him and I tell everybody, like,
I want to see Aaron Rodgers play. It's one of
the best quarterbacks to ever play football, and he's trying
to defy so many of the odds. Age still off
of injury. The Jets get that off me. I mean,
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took Sam darvald a couple of years to get that
Jets muck off him. Geno Smith, he had to get
that Jets off him, Like I got Jets on me?
Is that Jets on your shirt? I got Jets? Oh? Oh?
Having Jets on your resume as a quarterback outside probably
of Brett Favre. It's kind of like stepping in dog poopy,
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like poop again, you ever have the like like and
you have just like a little speck on your shoes.
You're like checking your shoes like I'm good, I'm good,
and then there's this little tiny in the crevice of
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your shoe. You're like, oh god, that's what it is.
Then you hose it down and you're like, I'm good.
That's the Jets you got. I gotta get that Jets
off me. Todd Bowles took him a couple of years
to get the Jets off him working with the Buccaneers.
Now he's their head coach, right, So I just again,
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you don't have to like Aaron Rodgers. Dan Byer doesn't
like Aaron Rodgers. I know he doesn't. It's not personal.
He's just never been a Rogers guy. He's never one
of these just he just kind of Dan. Is it
fair to say you were over Aaron Rodgers a good
while ago?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yes, that's fair, okay, fair nothing nothing personal, but no, yeah,
there's just as hard to be extra.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
There's always something extra.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, yes, yes, with Aaron it's it's a lot like
the West Side of Los Angeles. It's a lot like
midtown Manhattan, right where it's not bad, but god, it's
a lot. It's just a lot, seemingly unnecessarily, so unnecessarily,
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and that's Aaron Rodgers, Like, look, dude, it's quarterback. This
is not that harder. Gate get a lot of money,
try to win games, work with your guys, be the representative,
essentially the mayor of the city. Do it again, do
it again, do it again and again, and it just
got increasingly difficult, or at least outward appearances, it's just
a difficult. I think I thought Mark Murphy had the
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best way to express how most people view Aaron Rodgers.
Do you remember what he said by her?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I can't remember the exact word, but so I'm going
to say no, because there were a couple in my mind,
but I can't remember the exactly I think he said.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
He's a complicated fellow.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I didn't think it was complicated. I didn't think it
was difficult. I thought it was complicated.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Right, which is a complicated is such a great word
because it doesn't actually mean what it's defined as meaning.
It's not like mediocre like people say mediocre and they
always mean bad, but mediocre is average? Is average? An
average by definition is not bad, it's average, it's average.
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How is your dinner mediocre? If you say mediocre, be like, wow,
what was wrong with it? Like nothing, it was mediocre,
it was average. But mediocre has a negative connotation, Is
that fair, Dan?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, So I think complicated, same thing, like complicated is
just well, it's complicated. But the truth is it's a
great code word for he's a pain in the ass,
right right? How is she like, I want to set
you up with this girl? Like ash? Tell me better, better,
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ten better? Her dating history? It's complicated? Whoa red flags?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
What's going on with you guys? Right now? Wow? It's complicated?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Complicated? Yes, yes, yes, there is. There has never been
a healthy relationship that anyone has ever described as complicated. Fair?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Fair, okay, agreed, second motion carries.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So the point is that when Mark when Mark Murphy,
the outgoing president of the Green Bay Packers a couple
of years ago, said it's a complicated fella, everybody's like,
got it, He's a pain in the ass, really talented,
but God, just take the snap, throw the ball, score
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the touchdown, shake the shake the hands, kiss, the baby
signed the autographs. Not that hard, but it just again
everything sort of complicated, and again complicated by dictionary definition
means just that, hey, it's not an easy year. There's
no one easy word to define somebody super bright, super engaging,
super charming, super talented. There are people that really, really
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really really like and appreciate him. There are people that don't.
But again, the complicated by dictionary definition is, hey, it's
not good. It's not bad. It's just there's there's layers
to it. Complicated in urban terms, in normal discussion is
oh YoY, it is complicated, which is it's a lot.
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So again, my challenge is for anybody to reasonably say
the reason we say, I'm not going to pay attention
and like, look, this is one of those for the
Pittsburgh Steelers, I would say that not the last year
of Ben Roethlisberger, the next to last year of Ben
Roethsberger was the last year they had competent quarterback play.
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And look, Mason I thought did a good job a
couple of years ago of getting them to the playoffs.
That was probably his, you know, his best year. But
it was really like, hey, let's just let's just do
the best we can. And maybe that was coordinator. I
don't know. They've changed coordinators since then. But Ben Roethlisberger
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really probably you go back to twenty eighteen, right, so
we're talking twenty eighteen, which is seven eight years ago, right,
he threw for five thousand yards. I mean, he was
a he was a star. I mean, if you go
to twenty twenty, like he was still they were twelve
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and three, he was thirty three touchdowns, ten interceptions, I'd
be willing to say twenty ten, twenty twenty, so even
that is five seasons ago. This was the last time
they had competent quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yes, dam yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
And I would even say even before that, like I
think the five thousand season, and twenty eighteen is the
one that's probably best. Because his elbow injury forced him
to miss most of twenty nineteen, he played a game again.
He only played two games that year, one of itch
was Week two against the Seahawks. It was also, by
the way, the infamous game where the pass interference penalty
kind of where you could call replay on pass interference
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and remember that after the Rams Saints debacle. But Roethlisberger's
elbow kind of was shot in that Week two game
and didn't return that year. And I don't think that
he was the same in twenty twenty, even though the numbers,
you know, are respectable. But yeah, that last season was
not good.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, and you probably even could go back to seventeen
when they're twelve and three, twenty eight, fourteen, four thousand
yards balanced attack, really really good. Right, So we're talking
about more than half a decade since the Pittsburgh Steelers
had had competent quarterback play, probably Hall of Fame quarterback player.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, and dougd even just make the point about Kenny Pickett.
Just when they took Kenny Pickett, which I think was
around nineteen somewhere in that ballpark, in the first round,
that's not addressing your quarterback situation.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's just it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
If Kenny Pickett was that sought after, that much of
a solution, he would have been picked way earlier in
that draft. So like, even to that point of them
taking Kenny Pickett first round, I don't think they ever
then really truly addressed their situation. But it felt like, hey,
went to pitt that's the right deal. He's still there.
Look at what he did. Steelers need a quarterback, let's
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make it work. But I don't think that that was
a really viable solution as a general rule. I don't
think it's a viable solution that you're addressing your quarterback
play if you're taking him outside the top fifteen.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
A general rule. Although, like Jordan Love Aaron Rodgers, right,
I think that was the model they tried to. Hey,
we got a guy that maybe slipped through the cracks
and co and Kenny Pickett remember played in the same stadium.
They felt like they had a better working knowledge of
him than anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Else know, which actually makes it worse.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I get it. You know, yes, you should have known.
There's no surprise.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You should have known.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You should have known twentieth you could have filmed every
practice and it wouldn't have been illegal, And yet you
you did not, and you still swung and missed. This
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Speaker 4 (12:37):
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Speaker 1 (12:39):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to
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Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So I'm a big believer
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in this. Right that ESPN when I worked there and
even since gets a lot of criticism from people for
promoting their own stuff Right now, they do so too much.
I thought the did anybody hear Bayer? Did you hear
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any of that Ringer podcast where or it was actually on?
It was they posted posted on x as well where
Rissillo was talking about was talking about inside the NBA
coming to ESPN and he's like, hey, unless they do
one of those crossovers where they add men at Kimes
and did so like super super dead pan, do you
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have to hear any of that?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I just heard about the clip I didn't hear the
podcast or actually listen to the clip.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I just heard about it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, I mean, Ryan delivers it in a Jason Stewart like,
very very dry fashion, so you're like, wait, is he serious,
And what he was saying is he's just making fun
of the fact that ESPN they just somewhere in I
think it was building for was the management when I
was there. I haven't been there in a long time,
someone building for or some emails like hey, we have
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this new, bright, shiny object, let's find a way to
get them involved. Right, That's what Charles Barkley wants to avoid, like,
don't put me on something where I'm destined to fail,
you know, just because we want to promote that. And
obviously they love Mina Kimes, So what he was just
joking about their infatuation for men. To Kimes, she hadn't
played football, while she can talk about basketball, she hadn't
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played basketball either, So he's just kind of poking the
bear a little bit, tongue planted firmly in chic. But
so I do think though that one of the things
I learned to you, So I don't like that part
of ESPN having been there is like why are we
putting this person on? But I do like the idea
of why do you promote your own stuff? Because if
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you don't think like anybody else's right. If I don't
promote what Dan said yesterday as absolutely brilliant, Okay, do
I think anybody else, even on our own network, is
going to right? Is Colin Coward gonna go well, he's
on vacation, But is Dan Patrick gonna go? Hey? I
was listening to Gottlieb Show, and I know Dan does
listen because he'll text me and listen to show that
(15:18):
at Buyer he nailed it and replay it. No, And
that's why you have to if you do something good,
tell people about it. If something good's coming up, tell
you about it. And if you don't like that as
a listener, just understand if we don't tell you, no
one else is going to. So here's Dan Bayer and
(15:38):
I talking about last night's game. Before last night's game happened.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The thing I'm most watching for tonight is what happens
in the final six minutes of this game, where I
believe at some point Oklahoma City will have a lead.
And we saw it in the Bucks series. We saw
it in the Cavs series, We saw it in the
Nick series. Do the Pace have that ability to come
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back from a deficit and do what they did so
the previous three teams? Is Oklahoma City immune to that?
And it's not that I'm going to tune in at
the six minute mark of the game, but it's just
the fact of does this magical run continue for the
Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I mean, it's I mean, you couldn't really get any
better than that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Dan, Well, thank you, and and I appreciate you pointing
it out because it was not meant to be a
hot take it all. You just asked, what are you
going to watch tonight? Like what is the point? Where
does it come down to? And that's what it came
down to. And not only I mean the Bucks game
is tricky because it was Game five and it closed
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out the series, but the other comebacks in the Cavs
series and the Knicks series were ones that I just
felt changed the entire direction or tilted the series into
the Pacers favor. And that's why last night was I
had so much gravity and it was heavy because Oklahoma
City was the overwhelming favorite. But if the Pacers do
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it again, then things switch, and twenty four hours later,
here we are. I thought your points afterwards, which we
didn't include in the clip, were also interesting on how
the Pacers planned for this stuff so for us to
think it's it's a lucky sort of deal, it isn't.
And I've argued that I thought other teams would usually
throw in the towel if they had older players, because
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they would be like, oh, we're down by double digits
a minute ago, let's save everybody. That's kind of been
my point when they had their earlier comebacks. But that's
not how Indiana does things. And what do you know,
they're up one zero in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
No. I mean interesting that I've actually most of our
games last year against the bigger opponents, the by games
guarantee games. One was a close game anyway, but the
other Ohio State, Oakland State, Providence, like we did the
same thing. We played hard the whole time. And guys,
because you have to train people to do that, you
can't ever wait. Once you waved the white flag, you're
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waving the white flag for the year, I believe. But
it's also the other parts we talked about is the
three point shooting and how they just kind of specifically
target trying to get threes when they have, but good
smart threes, not just chuck up threes late.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleeb Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three
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domin I form NFL GM with the Tampay Buccaneers and
he joins us a weekly as talking about Hey, I
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do want to ask again? And I talked about this
on somebody else's podcast earlier. It's like sports guys are
sports guys, right, if you've been in high level sports,
there's generally respect that's carried. I take it you watched
the NBA Finals last night. I did, what'd you think
of the Pacers comeback?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I thought it was amazing. I mean it's a team
that every thought. Okay, see he was going to sweep
the series. And that's why you play the game and
you get to watch all the way to the end. Uh,
you know, I love it. I love it an upset
or an underdog. Certainly in that situation when we went
a Super Bowl, we were the underdog, so I'm always
kind of rooting that way.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah. No, it's it, it's it's it's it's a great point.
And I also love the just the idea that it's
never over, like stop, it's just not over. I hate
the white flag, even when the white flag should should,
in fact be be waived. We find out this week
Aaron Rodgers is going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. Okay,
what are what are your expectations as a guy who's
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been in around this league for over a quarter century.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yeah, it's kind of what we talked about, right, Doug.
I think we both thought, if he's going to show up,
he's got a sign before the you know, the veteran
mini camp, and he does exactly that, And I think
that's all I had to do. This guy's played so
much football. You know, Steelers fans can uh. I think
they should actually rejoice. I know Aaron Rodgers in the
last couple of years has not created much of a
happy spot for anybody, including himself, But I just think
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it's going to be a good fit for him in Pittsburgh.
Mike Tomlin and just his demeanor I think is going
to be a good fit for Aaron Rodgers and the
way he handles things. And I think what you're gonna
expect is a guy that's gonna be ready to go
Week one of the regular season without a doubt. He's
going to get through the you know this veteran mini camp.
He'll have to playbook for a month, he can work
with the coaches on the side if he needs to,
and he'll be ready to go. I don't think there's
going to be any hiccup here in terms of Aaron
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Rodgers being the starting quarterback Week one for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
and I think he will continue to streak for the
Steelers to win you know, tenor or at least be
five hundred, and certainly gives the Steelers in the division
that's brutal, I still a chance to very much compete.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, okay, so what does it do to that division?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah? I think the hard thing in the division is
I think it's going to be where maybe two teams
can come out of there because they're going to beat
each other up, and then you sit around and look
at you know, the Miami Dolphins and the Buffalo Bills,
and certainly you know South with the Chargers and the
Chiefs and where Denver is, and so I think what's
going to happen in the central is. I think it's
going to be too hard to get three teams out
of there. I think it's going to be luckily two teams,
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max that are going to make it through. But I
do think two teams will come out of there. But
it's you know, since they certainly feels like a team
should be good. Pittsburgh. You know, Baltimore is going to
be good, and it's whether Pittsburgh can get to that magic.
I think eleven wins because I think that's what's going
to take in the AFC this year.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Stug Ot Leave show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark
Dominic is our guest of course, all things football is.
He's a guy who's worked in NFL front offices, scouting
you name, and of course been the been the gentlem
manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I did read an
article where hey there's some heat on Todd Bowles.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Why that's a hard one, you know, I think there's
I feel like there's always heat on Todd Bowles and
he's been able to, you know, pivot around it and
work through it. And you know, in the last couple
of years, I mean, the Bucks have made the playoffs
now what four straight?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, That's why it's surprising to me when I read that.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Why you know, to Todd's a nice and everybody likes
Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles may not be the most dynamic leader,
might not be the most triumphant kind of guy, but
the Glaziers have a brand around Tony Dungee and they
know a smart guy when they see one, And you know,
I think of that way. I think it's like, you know,
Todd Bowles might not be the John Gruden when I
was a John. He's going to be a little bit
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more mild and not as boisterous. But I don't think
the Glaziers they're not quick to move and change when
you've got four years of success. And I don't expect
any heat on Todd Bulls. They could go seven and
ten and I think Todd Bowles is completely safe. I
don't see it change there for at least two years,
if it's even at all.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Mark Dominik's our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Frank ragnow retires tires. You've been
having to rebuild rosters forever. How big a loss is
that for the Lions in in addition to the coordinator
losses than any other personnel they've lost the offseason.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, I mean, you're you're you're kind of when your
captain's on your team walks away, and that's fine, that's
his prerogative. I think there's a couple of things. They
signed Tristan Coloone who has been a very good journeyman
offensive lineman who continues to get you know, he goes
to Baltimore the draft Trevor with limb Debaum and he's,
you know, moved out to the Jets, and they draft
Joe Tittman. This guy's I think he's gonna have a
chance to be the starting center there and I think
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he's got enough experience where I think they'll be okay
if not. I think it's big news for Christian Mahogany,
a player that Detroit Lions fans probably know who is
that most fans don't. That's a he's a guard that
came in from Boston College last year and absolutely played
spectacular down the stretch for them, and so I think
they got would sign interest in Cologne having Christian Mahogany
being the guy that I think can step up. Yes,
it hurts, but I don't think it's just shattering. I
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think the coordinator loss is more significant anytime every time,
and you know that's a hard thing to replace. But
you know, I think the Frank Rag now, I think
it's okay. I think they can overcome it, and I
don't think it's can be impact in their offense.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Okay, got leave show Fox Sports Trader that that's Mark Dominic.
He's joining us here on the show as he does
every week. I was, I was looking at this and
I was I was just kind of interested by it
that Richardson's hurt. Anthony Richardson's hurt with his shoulder, and look,
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his performance hasn't been good enough. And you can say, well,
maybe it's because he's been banged up, but it's hard
for him to even get the off season work in
because he's been hurting. Some of these off seasons they
bring in Daniel Jones, give me your sense of going
on in Indie in terms of their planning for this season. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I mean they've got to find out what richards can do,
and if Richardson can't stay healthy for another season, they
know they've got to make a change. But it's Richardson's job.
I don't think Chris Ballard's going to pull the plug
on Anthony Richardson, even if mister Ersay was the one
who really wanted Richardson worse than anybody. I think Chris
Ballard's had a lot of opportunity here with quarterbacks. I
mean he's basically have a new starter almost every year
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he's been That's a hard thing to do and keep
your job. Chris is doing that because he's a good evaluator.
But this is the Euro I think it's a fisher
cut bait for Anthony Richardson and possibly the front office.
So I think it's Richardson's job, and I think you're right, Doug.
I mean, and this is something people were worried about
when he's coming out, is can you stay healthy? Can
he stay on the field? And his body is just
not letting him do that because it's a hard game,
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and so this is a very frustrating time. They're thankful
to have Daniel Jones. Maybe that's why Daniel Jones chose
the Colts over stain in like a Minnesota because he
thought he could get to the field sooner because of
the injury history. And that's probably the reason why Daniel
Jones is on that roster.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, probably is. If you look at the internet, Shador
Sanders is killing it in this min in the the
mini camp. What's the reality of what you hear is
going on in Cleveland?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Well, you know, I have a feeling Shador is playing well.
You know again, I think so far, it feels like
for the most part, he's handling everything you can the
right way since the post draft slide or drop or whatever.
And I think that's been good news. And certainly Dion's
been a lot quieter and a little more humbled up.
And I think it's all what they need to do.
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They just need to pen their ears back and go
to work. And I think he's been doing that. I've
said all along. I think he's better than Gabriel. I
think he's going to be a better quarterback. I think
he was, you know, higher rated quarterback in most teams boards.
You know, can he beat out Joe Flacco? I don't
think he will. Week one. I think Joe Flacko will
hold the job just because of the experience and it's
a you know, an important year obviously for Cleveland. But
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I think if Joe Flacco's slips, I think Schador can
find his way to the field very quickly, even I
think faster than maybe Kenny Pickett can, just because of
the fact that if he continues to flash in minicamp,
he's got to carry that over once they put the
real pads on. So it's hard. You know, when you
see a young guy flashing midiamp, especially quarterback, you take
that with a grain of salt, Doug because you realize
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it's right now, it's sugarcoated. It's it's not real. You
can't touch the quarterback. They know that, so they can
sit back there and pick people apart and not be worried.
It's a little as you can imagine, it's a lot
different when we get to the preseason and things really fly.
So it sounds good. We'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, what do you think about salabing back in San Francisco.
Some of the personnel is different. He's bringing back some
personnel that he coached in New York. Does that work right?
Where you bring a guy back who had been there
previously in that position after being a head coach.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
I think it works fantastic and I think it's a
huge hire for Sanrancisco and they're very fortunate to get
Robert solid back. He's extremely bright, he knows what he's doing.
He's been there, he's worked with the staff before, so
they know him. You know, it's a gentleman. So it's
very fluid, very smooth, and I think it's a great
sign for the forty nine ers who are going to
need help this year a little bit more because of,
you know, some of the decisions they had to make
to be able to get Brock pretty under a contract.
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So from the defensive standpoint, you are very thankful if
you're John Lynch and Coach Sanahan to be able to
have a Robert Sahl available back right into where he
used to be. I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Okay, last thing, Derek Carr has kind of taking a
victory lap over. Hey, you know, could have held out
on this thing, could a rehabbed turned back in my
signing bonus, what's the reality to the the kind of
victory lap over not taking every last dime that he
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feels like he could have taken from the Saints.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
I think if you've ever met Derek Carr and you
get a chance to spend time around him, I have,
he's a special person, like he's a great guy, and
it just goes right in line. I mean, it's huge
for the Saints. It's huge for the organization, you know,
you know, because they're a team that was obviously just
dramatic cap problems and still, you know, technically are I
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think he should take a victory lap, and yet you know,
it's a lot of money, but he understands he's made
over two hundred million dollars in his career. He's going
to be just fine. And you know, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Again, most people aren't going to do that. Most people
don't do that. It's his prerogative. But that does go
in line with the character of the guy that I've
always met. And I wouldn't never tell a player to
walk away from money. I think it's just that's his
own personal You fellows, you can't play, it can't earn,
it doesn't isn't owde It good for him, Again, huge
for the Saints, but that does fall in line with
the character of the guy that I've met.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, that's why, and that's why you sign guys like that.
You even give those guys a little bit more money
because you feel like you're going to get the most
out of those guys. Hey, Mark a great, have a
great weekend. Thanks so much for joining us. Let's talk
next week.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Enjoy the finals.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah we will. Doug Smart Dominic join us on The
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, coming up next?
Will history be made in sports this weekend? What sport
you'll find out next?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
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Speaker 1 (29:36):
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I was told not to sing along with the buffer
music because on the podcast you can't hear it, which
allows me to tell you to download the podcast. Whoever
you download podcast, type in Doug Godleyb. We take the
show with you wherever you go. I'm just type in,
Doug Godly, maybe download podcasts, follow right, review, like us,
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or you don't have to like us, but if you
like us, that would be that would be grand, That
would be wonderful, That would be wonderful. Okay, I'm trying
to think we have any business to clean up here. Nope,
let's get to the press. The press, Dan Byer, tell
(30:41):
me everything that you can going on in sports.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, I'll try, Doug. It's a Friday, it's summertime. We're
down to the NBA finals. They get a couple of
days off. Stanley Cup final is tonight. There's other news
in hockey that we'll touch on, but we start in tennis,
where the match is just completed at the French Open.
Top seed Yonixon, a winner over six seed Novak Djokovic
in straight sets to advance to the French Open final.
(31:05):
For Djokovic, trying to get Grand Slam title number twenty five,
which would be the most of any man or woman,
falls two rounds short. In fact, Doug, the stat that
was put up on the broadcast on TNT stated that
Djokovic had not been beaten in a Grand Slam event
in straight sets since Wimbledon of twenty ten, but today
(31:26):
ousted losing the third set in a tiebreaker. T Onic
Centner who will face Carlos aal Karez coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
And First Take Tomorrow special edition on Saturday. Is Novak
Djokovic done? Put him out the past year? Why not
just eliminate him from competition?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'll say this, It's funny when we look back at
the greatest and you and I have talked about the
trio of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, and ultimately aw Djokovic
may be considered the best because he played in this
era with Nadal and Federer, where when Federer came on,
Federer was the first win. I started racking up titles
(32:04):
Nadal and Djokovic about the same age. But now it's
a guy like Yannick Sinner, who's a multi time Grand
Slam Award winner looking for his first title in Paris
that could be standing in the way. He and Alkaaz
could be the ones to prevent Djokovic from that. So
everything that comes full circle.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, I hear you on Federer, I would say Djokovic
also had a lot of success as the other two
aged out right and Nadal had success the middle mostly
most of it was at Rolin Garrows, but also suffered
more injuries than the other two. So it's a really
you know what this discussion is.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's complicated by the way, speaking of upsets, complete upset
that Sam did not bump back, speaking of bumper music
with Avril Levine's complicated. When you brought up the Aaron
Rodgers story and we were coming back from the four
to twenty eastern one twenty Pacific time break, that was
quite the upset you went, I think with the outfield
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instead instead of complicated by Avril Levine.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Is that correct? Sam?
Speaker 6 (33:06):
I can confirm that Sam did ponder using complicated because
he sang it loudly to himself at one point when
when Aaron U and when when the topic came up,
So it was under consideration for bump back. I will
give him credit there. But yes, he did bounce bounce
back with the outfield instead.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I did.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
I went with a song off my wall. I just thought,
I don't know how Doug would react to some Avril
VN on the air, so I I took it. I
took the safe path.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
When have you ever.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Thought of me when playing bumper music all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
You did not realize like Sam is when if you
if you give a nod to his bumper music makes
his day.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I understand, But like in terms of stuff, I don't like.
I didn't know that that that you actually cared about stuff.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
I don't like w W d W What would Doug
w W d D What would Doug do there? You
go wwds? What would Doug say about that? I don't
think you would have taken kindly to Avrilvin www.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
It would have made sense with the complicated I like
when you that mean shows you're paying attention.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Is the fake radio station that you use when you're
breaking in to get your w's. So so you don't
say ww you got to say wwwwww. All right, So
the French Open was on TNT. Doug, You're going to
see more college football on TNT because ESPN is going
to sub license some of their college football playoffs semi
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final games to the network in twenty twenty six, twenty
twenty seven, and twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, it's really interesting, right, Like TNT actually doing more
sports now they're not doing the one sports show that
everybody knew them for Yes, it's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
No more NBA. No, we're inside the NBA. Lots of
other sports. None of it haven't do with the NBA.
They still have the show, but they SUBLICNSE that back
to ESPN.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
In a perfect segue, because tonight on TNT you could
see Game two of the Stanley Cup Final between the
Florida Panthers and Edmonton Oilers. Is Iowa, Sam and I
can continue our quest for hoping that a Canadian team
wins the Stanley Cup. Right now, Edmonton, so far, so good,
up one game to none.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Right, Yes, did they stand aside that
by each that's the more the French side, that's not that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Berda, that's ways away.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
They still say ozer olser it's more in.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
My neck of the woods up in the maybe maybe
that part of yeah, the up and up in Canada.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
By the way, one of the things that state.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
By the way, one of the.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Things I loved about watching the Oilers win the other
night is we're getting close to the summer solstice. We're
just about two weeks or so away, so the days
are getting really long. It was nine to fifty local
time in Edmonton when the oilers won and it was
still daylight.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yes, right outside, people walk on the shirt off.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like now the sun may not have been up at
that point, it was twilight. It was significant, like you
could get by if you didn't have your your your
lights on, Like if you were driving and someone didn't
have their lights on, you'd be like, Okay, I see that.
You know, five more minutes later, maybe a flashier lights
to turn them on, but yeah, still daylight at nine
point fifty in Edmonton.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
The other night parts of North America and Alaska. You
go farther north, you go, you tend to get like
really long, really long days.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, well there's that.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
There's an island again, I got I got caught in
some it was either TikTok or Instagram reels thing whether
there's an island in northern Norway where it's daylight all
summer and then so there's like like time stops and
then dark all winter, and it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
There's there's I've seen stuff on Norway towns as well
that are kind of in between the fjords, so the
sun in the winter doesn't rise up, so they have
mirrors that reflect the sun into the town in the
winter months. True story, to help it give at least
some light when there wouldn't be a lot in those
winter months.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
ESPN reports that Texas Tech pitcher Najari Kennedy signed another
nil deal to stay with the Red Raiders. She played
two seasons at Stanford, then got a lot of cash
to play at Texas Tech. Kennedy's going to get another
million dollars at least to play for the Red Raiders.
According to ESPN, Texas Tech tonight faces Texas and the
(37:29):
Winner take all Game three of the Women's College World Series.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I wish I could tell you you don't have to
follow the money to follow who's a good team, but
you have to follow the money to find out who's
a good team.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
With Texas Tech and finally Doug, the Knicks are expecting
to make a formal request to interview Mavericks head coach
Jason Kidd for their coaching vacancy.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Hmm. And remember he was a Nick when he last
played in the NBA. Then he was the Nets head
coach that next year. And that, my friends, is the
press bag.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Okay, let's prep you a little bit for Sunday because
Dan will be on air, right be on air before
the game on Sunday. But the thunder are an eleven
point favorite, eleven point favorite. The Pacers are up one
game to none right now, Dan, who would you take
with that eleven points?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Indiana?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, I mean, I just it's screaming at you to
take Indiana.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, even in the other comebacks, they haven't been blown
out in those other games.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, I do think they'll be a blowout at some
point in the series. I don't think it's Sunday. Enjoy
your weekend from The Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb Show podcast. Be
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Fox Sports Radio coming to you from Uh, We're sort
(00:23):
of by coast. I'm on the coast of Wisconsin. Dan
Byer's close to the close coast of California, so too
is Ryan Burschinger and our guy Iowa. Sam's Doug Gottlieb
Show broadcasting every day here on Fox Sports Radio. Do
doo doo, doo doo doo. So the way I look
(00:44):
at it with with sports radio is, let's not over
complicate it. Hey, it's two stories today and only two
that matter. We addressed the first one, which is unbelievable
come back by the Pacers and when what happens down
in Oklahoma City all those things, and we'll get to
some of that too in in hour two. But the
other thing is Aaron Rodgers is a Pittsburgh Steeler. He's
(01:08):
a Pittsburgh Steeler. That happened yesterday, And I do think
it's funny that Aaron Rodgers was kind of shown up
by the President Elon Musk going at it yesterday, you're like, hey, hey,
I signed, I'm going to Pittsburgh. Not official, but released,
(01:30):
and everybody knows what's going to happen. But because Elon
is tweeting about Potis and then Potus is apparently giving
back the tesla that he got that he received on
the White House lawn, that's amazing theater and it out
shown Aaron Rodgers back into the Nation Football League. But
(01:56):
I just I don't know how anyone thinks this is
not a great thing outside of for Mason Rudolf, and
even Mason Rudolf, you're sitting there going like, yeah, this sucks,
but you would have to think that Mason and the
Steelers knew a long time ago. And oh yeah, by
the way, there's no definite that Aaron Rodgers plays every
(02:17):
game or that Aaron Rodgers finishes the season because he
has had health issues and he is older. But outside
of Mason Rudolf, who wouldn't be crazy excited about this?
Not because it makes the Steelers great it makes the
Steelers really interesting. And you can say whatever you want
to say about Rogers. You don't like his appearances on McAfee,
you don't like his defiance on that in vaccines or
(02:42):
some of the things he says. You're entitled to your opinion.
You're entitled in your opinion about how good he was,
how good he is now. You are entitled to that.
What you're not entitled to do is say, yeah, I'd
prefer to see Mason Rudolph play to Aaron Rodgers play again.
Mason's a friend of mine, literally hung out text whatever.
(03:05):
He's good dude, And I told him and I tell everybody, like,
I want to see Aaron Rodgers play. It's one of
the best quarterbacks to ever play football, and he's trying
to defy so many of the odds. Age still off
of injury. The Jets get that off me. I mean,
(03:28):
took Sam darvald a couple of years to get that
Jets muck off him. Geno Smith, he had to get
that Jets off him, Like I got Jets on me?
Is that Jets on your shirt? I got Jets? Oh? Oh?
Having Jets on your resume as a quarterback outside probably
of Brett Favre. It's kind of like stepping in dog poopy,
(03:50):
like poop again, you ever have the like like and
you have just like a little speck on your shoes.
You're like checking your shoes like I'm good, I'm good,
and then there's this little tiny in the crevice of
(04:10):
your shoe. You're like, oh god, that's what it is.
Then you hose it down and you're like, I'm good.
That's the Jets you got. I gotta get that Jets
off me. Todd Bowles took him a couple of years
to get the Jets off him working with the Buccaneers.
Now he's their head coach, right, So I just again,
(04:34):
you don't have to like Aaron Rodgers. Dan Byer doesn't
like Aaron Rodgers. I know he doesn't. It's not personal.
He's just never been a Rogers guy. He's never one
of these just he just kind of Dan. Is it
fair to say you were over Aaron Rodgers a good
while ago?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yes, that's fair, okay, fair nothing nothing personal, but no, yeah,
there's just as hard to be extra.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
There's always something extra.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, yes, yes, with Aaron it's it's a lot like
the West Side of Los Angeles. It's a lot like
midtown Manhattan, right where it's not bad, but god, it's
a lot. It's just a lot, seemingly unnecessarily, so unnecessarily,
(05:19):
and that's Aaron Rodgers, Like, look, dude, it's quarterback. This
is not that harder. Gate get a lot of money,
try to win games, work with your guys, be the representative,
essentially the mayor of the city. Do it again, do
it again, do it again and again, and it just
got increasingly difficult, or at least outward appearances, it's just
a difficult. I think I thought Mark Murphy had the
(05:41):
best way to express how most people view Aaron Rodgers.
Do you remember what he said by her?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I can't remember the exact word, but so I'm going
to say no, because there were a couple in my mind,
but I can't remember the exactly I think he said.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
He's a complicated fellow.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I didn't think it was complicated. I didn't think it
was difficult. I thought it was complicated.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Right, which is a complicated is such a great word
because it doesn't actually mean what it's defined as meaning.
It's not like mediocre like people say mediocre and they
always mean bad, but mediocre is average? Is average? An
average by definition is not bad, it's average, it's average.
(06:30):
How is your dinner mediocre? If you say mediocre, be like, wow,
what was wrong with it? Like nothing, it was mediocre,
it was average. But mediocre has a negative connotation, Is
that fair, Dan?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, So I think complicated, same thing, like complicated is
just well, it's complicated. But the truth is it's a
great code word for he's a pain in the ass,
right right? How is she like, I want to set
you up with this girl? Like ash? Tell me better, better,
(07:04):
ten better? Her dating history? It's complicated? Whoa red flags?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
What's going on with you guys? Right now? Wow? It's complicated?
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Complicated? Yes, yes, yes, there is. There has never been
a healthy relationship that anyone has ever described as complicated. Fair?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Fair, okay, agreed, second motion carries.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So the point is that when Mark when Mark Murphy,
the outgoing president of the Green Bay Packers a couple
of years ago, said it's a complicated fella, everybody's like,
got it, He's a pain in the ass, really talented,
but God, just take the snap, throw the ball, score
(07:52):
the touchdown, shake the shake the hands, kiss, the baby
signed the autographs. Not that hard, but it just again
everything sort of complicated, and again complicated by dictionary definition
means just that, hey, it's not an easy year. There's
no one easy word to define somebody super bright, super engaging,
super charming, super talented. There are people that really, really
(08:15):
really really like and appreciate him. There are people that don't.
But again, the complicated by dictionary definition is, hey, it's
not good. It's not bad. It's just there's there's layers
to it. Complicated in urban terms, in normal discussion is
oh YoY, it is complicated, which is it's a lot.
(08:38):
So again, my challenge is for anybody to reasonably say
the reason we say, I'm not going to pay attention
and like, look, this is one of those for the
Pittsburgh Steelers, I would say that not the last year
of Ben Roethlisberger, the next to last year of Ben
Roethsberger was the last year they had competent quarterback play.
(09:02):
And look, Mason I thought did a good job a
couple of years ago of getting them to the playoffs.
That was probably his, you know, his best year. But
it was really like, hey, let's just let's just do
the best we can. And maybe that was coordinator. I
don't know. They've changed coordinators since then. But Ben Roethlisberger
(09:22):
really probably you go back to twenty eighteen, right, so
we're talking twenty eighteen, which is seven eight years ago, right,
he threw for five thousand yards. I mean, he was
a he was a star. I mean, if you go
to twenty twenty, like he was still they were twelve
(09:43):
and three, he was thirty three touchdowns, ten interceptions, I'd
be willing to say twenty ten, twenty twenty, so even
that is five seasons ago. This was the last time
they had competent quarterback play.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yes, dam yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
And I would even say even before that, like I
think the five thousand season, and twenty eighteen is the
one that's probably best. Because his elbow injury forced him
to miss most of twenty nineteen, he played a game again.
He only played two games that year, one of itch
was Week two against the Seahawks. It was also, by
the way, the infamous game where the pass interference penalty
kind of where you could call replay on pass interference
(10:16):
and remember that after the Rams Saints debacle. But Roethlisberger's
elbow kind of was shot in that Week two game
and didn't return that year. And I don't think that
he was the same in twenty twenty, even though the numbers,
you know, are respectable. But yeah, that last season was
not good.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, and you probably even could go back to seventeen
when they're twelve and three, twenty eight, fourteen, four thousand
yards balanced attack, really really good. Right, So we're talking
about more than half a decade since the Pittsburgh Steelers
had had competent quarterback play, probably Hall of Fame quarterback player.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, and dougd even just make the point about Kenny Pickett.
Just when they took Kenny Pickett, which I think was
around nineteen somewhere in that ballpark, in the first round,
that's not addressing your quarterback situation.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's just it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
If Kenny Pickett was that sought after, that much of
a solution, he would have been picked way earlier in
that draft. So like, even to that point of them
taking Kenny Pickett first round, I don't think they ever
then really truly addressed their situation. But it felt like, hey,
went to pitt that's the right deal. He's still there.
Look at what he did. Steelers need a quarterback, let's
(11:28):
make it work. But I don't think that that was
a really viable solution as a general rule. I don't
think it's a viable solution that you're addressing your quarterback
play if you're taking him outside the top fifteen.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
A general rule. Although, like Jordan Love Aaron Rodgers, right,
I think that was the model they tried to. Hey,
we got a guy that maybe slipped through the cracks
and co and Kenny Pickett remember played in the same stadium.
They felt like they had a better working knowledge of
him than anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Else know, which actually makes it worse.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I get it. You know, yes, you should have known.
There's no surprise.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You should have known.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You should have known twentieth you could have filmed every
practice and it wouldn't have been illegal, And yet you
you did not, and you still swung and missed. This
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Speaker 1 (12:39):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to
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Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So I'm a big believer
(13:01):
in this. Right that ESPN when I worked there and
even since gets a lot of criticism from people for
promoting their own stuff Right now, they do so too much.
I thought the did anybody hear Bayer? Did you hear
(13:23):
any of that Ringer podcast where or it was actually on?
It was they posted posted on x as well where
Rissillo was talking about was talking about inside the NBA
coming to ESPN and he's like, hey, unless they do
one of those crossovers where they add men at Kimes
and did so like super super dead pan, do you
(13:44):
have to hear any of that?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I just heard about the clip I didn't hear the
podcast or actually listen to the clip.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I just heard about it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, I mean, Ryan delivers it in a Jason Stewart like,
very very dry fashion, so you're like, wait, is he serious,
And what he was saying is he's just making fun
of the fact that ESPN they just somewhere in I
think it was building for was the management when I
was there. I haven't been there in a long time,
someone building for or some emails like hey, we have
(14:13):
this new, bright, shiny object, let's find a way to
get them involved. Right, That's what Charles Barkley wants to avoid, like,
don't put me on something where I'm destined to fail,
you know, just because we want to promote that. And
obviously they love Mina Kimes, So what he was just
joking about their infatuation for men. To Kimes, she hadn't
played football, while she can talk about basketball, she hadn't
(14:34):
played basketball either, So he's just kind of poking the
bear a little bit, tongue planted firmly in chic. But
so I do think though that one of the things
I learned to you, So I don't like that part
of ESPN having been there is like why are we
putting this person on? But I do like the idea
of why do you promote your own stuff? Because if
(14:56):
you don't think like anybody else's right. If I don't
promote what Dan said yesterday as absolutely brilliant, Okay, do
I think anybody else, even on our own network, is
going to right? Is Colin Coward gonna go well, he's
on vacation, But is Dan Patrick gonna go? Hey? I
was listening to Gottlieb Show, and I know Dan does
listen because he'll text me and listen to show that
(15:18):
at Buyer he nailed it and replay it. No, And
that's why you have to if you do something good,
tell people about it. If something good's coming up, tell
you about it. And if you don't like that as
a listener, just understand if we don't tell you, no
one else is going to. So here's Dan Bayer and
(15:38):
I talking about last night's game. Before last night's game happened.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The thing I'm most watching for tonight is what happens
in the final six minutes of this game, where I
believe at some point Oklahoma City will have a lead.
And we saw it in the Bucks series. We saw
it in the Cavs series, We saw it in the
Nick series. Do the Pace have that ability to come
(16:03):
back from a deficit and do what they did so
the previous three teams? Is Oklahoma City immune to that?
And it's not that I'm going to tune in at
the six minute mark of the game, but it's just
the fact of does this magical run continue for the
Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I mean, it's I mean, you couldn't really get any
better than that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Dan, Well, thank you, and and I appreciate you pointing
it out because it was not meant to be a
hot take it all. You just asked, what are you
going to watch tonight? Like what is the point? Where
does it come down to? And that's what it came
down to. And not only I mean the Bucks game
is tricky because it was Game five and it closed
(16:47):
out the series, but the other comebacks in the Cavs
series and the Knicks series were ones that I just
felt changed the entire direction or tilted the series into
the Pacers favor. And that's why last night was I
had so much gravity and it was heavy because Oklahoma
City was the overwhelming favorite. But if the Pacers do
(17:09):
it again, then things switch, and twenty four hours later,
here we are. I thought your points afterwards, which we
didn't include in the clip, were also interesting on how
the Pacers planned for this stuff so for us to
think it's it's a lucky sort of deal, it isn't.
And I've argued that I thought other teams would usually
throw in the towel if they had older players, because
(17:30):
they would be like, oh, we're down by double digits
a minute ago, let's save everybody. That's kind of been
my point when they had their earlier comebacks. But that's
not how Indiana does things. And what do you know,
they're up one zero in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
No. I mean interesting that I've actually most of our
games last year against the bigger opponents, the by games
guarantee games. One was a close game anyway, but the
other Ohio State, Oakland State, Providence, like we did the
same thing. We played hard the whole time. And guys,
because you have to train people to do that, you
can't ever wait. Once you waved the white flag, you're
(18:04):
waving the white flag for the year, I believe. But
it's also the other parts we talked about is the
three point shooting and how they just kind of specifically
target trying to get threes when they have, but good
smart threes, not just chuck up threes late.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleeb Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three
to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for The Dougatleep Show at Foxsports
Tradio dot com, or stream us live every day on
the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Let's welcome in Mark
domin I form NFL GM with the Tampay Buccaneers and
he joins us a weekly as talking about Hey, I
(18:43):
do want to ask again? And I talked about this
on somebody else's podcast earlier. It's like sports guys are
sports guys, right, if you've been in high level sports,
there's generally respect that's carried. I take it you watched
the NBA Finals last night. I did, what'd you think
of the Pacers comeback?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I thought it was amazing. I mean it's a team
that every thought. Okay, see he was going to sweep
the series. And that's why you play the game and
you get to watch all the way to the end. Uh,
you know, I love it. I love it an upset
or an underdog. Certainly in that situation when we went
a Super Bowl, we were the underdog, so I'm always
kind of rooting that way.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah. No, it's it, it's it's it's it's a great point.
And I also love the just the idea that it's
never over, like stop, it's just not over. I hate
the white flag, even when the white flag should should,
in fact be be waived. We find out this week
Aaron Rodgers is going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. Okay,
what are what are your expectations as a guy who's
(19:41):
been in around this league for over a quarter century.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yeah, it's kind of what we talked about, right, Doug.
I think we both thought, if he's going to show up,
he's got a sign before the you know, the veteran
mini camp, and he does exactly that, And I think
that's all I had to do. This guy's played so
much football. You know, Steelers fans can uh. I think
they should actually rejoice. I know Aaron Rodgers in the
last couple of years has not created much of a
happy spot for anybody, including himself, But I just think
(20:06):
it's going to be a good fit for him in Pittsburgh.
Mike Tomlin and just his demeanor I think is going
to be a good fit for Aaron Rodgers and the
way he handles things. And I think what you're gonna
expect is a guy that's gonna be ready to go
Week one of the regular season without a doubt. He's
going to get through the you know this veteran mini camp.
He'll have to playbook for a month, he can work
with the coaches on the side if he needs to,
and he'll be ready to go. I don't think there's
going to be any hiccup here in terms of Aaron
(20:28):
Rodgers being the starting quarterback Week one for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
and I think he will continue to streak for the
Steelers to win you know, tenor or at least be
five hundred, and certainly gives the Steelers in the division
that's brutal, I still a chance to very much compete.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, okay, so what does it do to that division?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah? I think the hard thing in the division is
I think it's going to be where maybe two teams
can come out of there because they're going to beat
each other up, and then you sit around and look
at you know, the Miami Dolphins and the Buffalo Bills,
and certainly you know South with the Chargers and the
Chiefs and where Denver is, and so I think what's
going to happen in the central is. I think it's
going to be too hard to get three teams out
of there. I think it's going to be luckily two teams,
(21:09):
max that are going to make it through. But I
do think two teams will come out of there. But
it's you know, since they certainly feels like a team
should be good. Pittsburgh. You know, Baltimore is going to
be good, and it's whether Pittsburgh can get to that magic.
I think eleven wins because I think that's what's going
to take in the AFC this year.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Stug Ot Leave show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark
Dominic is our guest of course, all things football is.
He's a guy who's worked in NFL front offices, scouting
you name, and of course been the been the gentlem
manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I did read an
article where hey there's some heat on Todd Bowles.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Why that's a hard one, you know, I think there's
I feel like there's always heat on Todd Bowles and
he's been able to, you know, pivot around it and
work through it. And you know, in the last couple
of years, I mean, the Bucks have made the playoffs
now what four straight?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, That's why it's surprising to me when I read that.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Why you know, to Todd's a nice and everybody likes
Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles may not be the most dynamic leader,
might not be the most triumphant kind of guy, but
the Glaziers have a brand around Tony Dungee and they
know a smart guy when they see one, And you know,
I think of that way. I think it's like, you know,
Todd Bowles might not be the John Gruden when I
was a John. He's going to be a little bit
(22:24):
more mild and not as boisterous. But I don't think
the Glaziers they're not quick to move and change when
you've got four years of success. And I don't expect
any heat on Todd Bulls. They could go seven and
ten and I think Todd Bowles is completely safe. I
don't see it change there for at least two years,
if it's even at all.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Mark Dominik's our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Frank ragnow retires tires. You've been
having to rebuild rosters forever. How big a loss is
that for the Lions in in addition to the coordinator
losses than any other personnel they've lost the offseason.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, I mean, you're you're you're kind of when your
captain's on your team walks away, and that's fine, that's
his prerogative. I think there's a couple of things. They
signed Tristan Coloone who has been a very good journeyman
offensive lineman who continues to get you know, he goes
to Baltimore the draft Trevor with limb Debaum and he's,
you know, moved out to the Jets, and they draft
Joe Tittman. This guy's I think he's gonna have a
chance to be the starting center there and I think
(23:24):
he's got enough experience where I think they'll be okay
if not. I think it's big news for Christian Mahogany,
a player that Detroit Lions fans probably know who is
that most fans don't. That's a he's a guard that
came in from Boston College last year and absolutely played
spectacular down the stretch for them, and so I think
they got would sign interest in Cologne having Christian Mahogany
being the guy that I think can step up. Yes,
it hurts, but I don't think it's just shattering. I
(23:47):
think the coordinator loss is more significant anytime every time,
and you know that's a hard thing to replace. But
you know, I think the Frank Rag now, I think
it's okay. I think they can overcome it, and I
don't think it's can be impact in their offense.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Okay, got leave show Fox Sports Trader that that's Mark Dominic.
He's joining us here on the show as he does
every week. I was, I was looking at this and
I was I was just kind of interested by it
that Richardson's hurt. Anthony Richardson's hurt with his shoulder, and look,
(24:20):
his performance hasn't been good enough. And you can say, well,
maybe it's because he's been banged up, but it's hard
for him to even get the off season work in
because he's been hurting. Some of these off seasons they
bring in Daniel Jones, give me your sense of going
on in Indie in terms of their planning for this season. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I mean they've got to find out what richards can do,
and if Richardson can't stay healthy for another season, they
know they've got to make a change. But it's Richardson's job.
I don't think Chris Ballard's going to pull the plug
on Anthony Richardson, even if mister Ersay was the one
who really wanted Richardson worse than anybody. I think Chris
Ballard's had a lot of opportunity here with quarterbacks. I
mean he's basically have a new starter almost every year
(24:59):
he's been That's a hard thing to do and keep
your job. Chris is doing that because he's a good evaluator.
But this is the Euro I think it's a fisher
cut bait for Anthony Richardson and possibly the front office.
So I think it's Richardson's job, and I think you're right, Doug.
I mean, and this is something people were worried about
when he's coming out, is can you stay healthy? Can
he stay on the field? And his body is just
not letting him do that because it's a hard game,
(25:19):
and so this is a very frustrating time. They're thankful
to have Daniel Jones. Maybe that's why Daniel Jones chose
the Colts over stain in like a Minnesota because he
thought he could get to the field sooner because of
the injury history. And that's probably the reason why Daniel
Jones is on that roster.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, probably is. If you look at the internet, Shador
Sanders is killing it in this min in the the
mini camp. What's the reality of what you hear is
going on in Cleveland?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Well, you know, I have a feeling Shador is playing well.
You know again, I think so far, it feels like
for the most part, he's handling everything you can the
right way since the post draft slide or drop or whatever.
And I think that's been good news. And certainly Dion's
been a lot quieter and a little more humbled up.
And I think it's all what they need to do.
(26:06):
They just need to pen their ears back and go
to work. And I think he's been doing that. I've
said all along. I think he's better than Gabriel. I
think he's going to be a better quarterback. I think
he was, you know, higher rated quarterback in most teams boards.
You know, can he beat out Joe Flacco? I don't
think he will. Week one. I think Joe Flacko will
hold the job just because of the experience and it's
a you know, an important year obviously for Cleveland. But
(26:27):
I think if Joe Flacco's slips, I think Schador can
find his way to the field very quickly, even I
think faster than maybe Kenny Pickett can, just because of
the fact that if he continues to flash in minicamp,
he's got to carry that over once they put the
real pads on. So it's hard. You know, when you
see a young guy flashing midiamp, especially quarterback, you take
that with a grain of salt, Doug because you realize
(26:47):
it's right now, it's sugarcoated. It's it's not real. You
can't touch the quarterback. They know that, so they can
sit back there and pick people apart and not be worried.
It's a little as you can imagine, it's a lot
different when we get to the preseason and things really fly.
So it sounds good. We'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, what do you think about salabing back in San Francisco.
Some of the personnel is different. He's bringing back some
personnel that he coached in New York. Does that work right?
Where you bring a guy back who had been there
previously in that position after being a head coach.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
I think it works fantastic and I think it's a
huge hire for Sanrancisco and they're very fortunate to get
Robert solid back. He's extremely bright, he knows what he's doing.
He's been there, he's worked with the staff before, so
they know him. You know, it's a gentleman. So it's
very fluid, very smooth, and I think it's a great
sign for the forty nine ers who are going to
need help this year a little bit more because of,
you know, some of the decisions they had to make
to be able to get Brock pretty under a contract.
(27:41):
So from the defensive standpoint, you are very thankful if
you're John Lynch and Coach Sanahan to be able to
have a Robert Sahl available back right into where he
used to be. I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Okay, last thing, Derek Carr has kind of taking a
victory lap over. Hey, you know, could have held out
on this thing, could a rehabbed turned back in my
signing bonus, what's the reality to the the kind of
victory lap over not taking every last dime that he
(28:16):
feels like he could have taken from the Saints.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
I think if you've ever met Derek Carr and you
get a chance to spend time around him, I have,
he's a special person, like he's a great guy, and
it just goes right in line. I mean, it's huge
for the Saints. It's huge for the organization, you know,
you know, because they're a team that was obviously just
dramatic cap problems and still, you know, technically are I
(28:39):
think he should take a victory lap, and yet you know,
it's a lot of money, but he understands he's made
over two hundred million dollars in his career. He's going
to be just fine. And you know, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Again, most people aren't going to do that. Most people
don't do that. It's his prerogative. But that does go
in line with the character of the guy that I've
always met. And I wouldn't never tell a player to
walk away from money. I think it's just that's his
own personal You fellows, you can't play, it can't earn,
it doesn't isn't owde It good for him, Again, huge
for the Saints, but that does fall in line with
the character of the guy that I've met.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, that's why, and that's why you sign guys like that.
You even give those guys a little bit more money
because you feel like you're going to get the most
out of those guys. Hey, Mark a great, have a
great weekend. Thanks so much for joining us. Let's talk
next week.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Enjoy the finals.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah we will. Doug Smart Dominic join us on The
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, coming up next?
Will history be made in sports this weekend? What sport
you'll find out next?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gottleb Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to
five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find
your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports
Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on
the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
Sports Radio. Oh mean YoY in for the fishco Baite.
(30:00):
I was told not to sing along with the buffer
music because on the podcast you can't hear it, which
allows me to tell you to download the podcast. Whoever
you download podcast, type in Doug Godleyb. We take the
show with you wherever you go. I'm just type in,
Doug Godly, maybe download podcasts, follow right, review, like us,
(30:21):
or you don't have to like us, but if you
like us, that would be that would be grand, That
would be wonderful, That would be wonderful. Okay, I'm trying
to think we have any business to clean up here. Nope,
let's get to the press. The press, Dan Byer, tell
(30:41):
me everything that you can going on in sports.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, I'll try, Doug. It's a Friday, it's summertime. We're
down to the NBA finals. They get a couple of
days off. Stanley Cup final is tonight. There's other news
in hockey that we'll touch on, but we start in tennis,
where the match is just completed at the French Open.
Top seed Yonixon, a winner over six seed Novak Djokovic
in straight sets to advance to the French Open final.
(31:05):
For Djokovic, trying to get Grand Slam title number twenty five,
which would be the most of any man or woman,
falls two rounds short. In fact, Doug, the stat that
was put up on the broadcast on TNT stated that
Djokovic had not been beaten in a Grand Slam event
in straight sets since Wimbledon of twenty ten, but today
(31:26):
ousted losing the third set in a tiebreaker. T Onic
Centner who will face Carlos aal Karez coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
And First Take Tomorrow special edition on Saturday. Is Novak
Djokovic done? Put him out the past year? Why not
just eliminate him from competition?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'll say this, It's funny when we look back at
the greatest and you and I have talked about the
trio of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, and ultimately aw Djokovic
may be considered the best because he played in this
era with Nadal and Federer, where when Federer came on,
Federer was the first win. I started racking up titles
(32:04):
Nadal and Djokovic about the same age. But now it's
a guy like Yannick Sinner, who's a multi time Grand
Slam Award winner looking for his first title in Paris
that could be standing in the way. He and Alkaaz
could be the ones to prevent Djokovic from that. So
everything that comes full circle.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, I hear you on Federer, I would say Djokovic
also had a lot of success as the other two
aged out right and Nadal had success the middle mostly
most of it was at Rolin Garrows, but also suffered
more injuries than the other two. So it's a really
you know what this discussion is.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's complicated by the way, speaking of upsets, complete upset
that Sam did not bump back, speaking of bumper music
with Avril Levine's complicated. When you brought up the Aaron
Rodgers story and we were coming back from the four
to twenty eastern one twenty Pacific time break, that was
quite the upset you went, I think with the outfield
(33:01):
instead instead of complicated by Avril Levine.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Is that correct? Sam?
Speaker 6 (33:06):
I can confirm that Sam did ponder using complicated because
he sang it loudly to himself at one point when
when Aaron U and when when the topic came up,
So it was under consideration for bump back. I will
give him credit there. But yes, he did bounce bounce
back with the outfield instead.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I did.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
I went with a song off my wall. I just thought,
I don't know how Doug would react to some Avril
VN on the air, so I I took it. I
took the safe path.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
When have you ever.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Thought of me when playing bumper music all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
You did not realize like Sam is when if you
if you give a nod to his bumper music makes
his day.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I understand, But like in terms of stuff, I don't like.
I didn't know that that that you actually cared about stuff.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
I don't like w W d W What would Doug
w W d D What would Doug do there? You
go wwds? What would Doug say about that? I don't
think you would have taken kindly to Avrilvin www.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
It would have made sense with the complicated I like
when you that mean shows you're paying attention.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Is the fake radio station that you use when you're
breaking in to get your w's. So so you don't
say ww you got to say wwwwww. All right, So
the French Open was on TNT. Doug, You're going to
see more college football on TNT because ESPN is going
to sub license some of their college football playoffs semi
(34:32):
final games to the network in twenty twenty six, twenty
twenty seven, and twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, it's really interesting, right, Like TNT actually doing more
sports now they're not doing the one sports show that
everybody knew them for Yes, it's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
No more NBA. No, we're inside the NBA. Lots of
other sports. None of it haven't do with the NBA.
They still have the show, but they SUBLICNSE that back
to ESPN.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
In a perfect segue, because tonight on TNT you could
see Game two of the Stanley Cup Final between the
Florida Panthers and Edmonton Oilers. Is Iowa, Sam and I
can continue our quest for hoping that a Canadian team
wins the Stanley Cup. Right now, Edmonton, so far, so good,
up one game to none.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Right, Yes, did they stand aside that
by each that's the more the French side, that's not that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Berda, that's ways away.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
They still say ozer olser it's more in.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
My neck of the woods up in the maybe maybe
that part of yeah, the up and up in Canada.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
By the way, one of the things that state.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
By the way, one of the.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Things I loved about watching the Oilers win the other
night is we're getting close to the summer solstice. We're
just about two weeks or so away, so the days
are getting really long. It was nine to fifty local
time in Edmonton when the oilers won and it was
still daylight.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yes, right outside, people walk on the shirt off.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like now the sun may not have been up at
that point, it was twilight. It was significant, like you
could get by if you didn't have your your your
lights on, Like if you were driving and someone didn't
have their lights on, you'd be like, Okay, I see that.
You know, five more minutes later, maybe a flashier lights
to turn them on, but yeah, still daylight at nine
point fifty in Edmonton.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
The other night parts of North America and Alaska. You
go farther north, you go, you tend to get like
really long, really long days.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, well there's that.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
There's an island again, I got I got caught in
some it was either TikTok or Instagram reels thing whether
there's an island in northern Norway where it's daylight all
summer and then so there's like like time stops and
then dark all winter, and it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
There's there's I've seen stuff on Norway towns as well
that are kind of in between the fjords, so the
sun in the winter doesn't rise up, so they have
mirrors that reflect the sun into the town in the
winter months. True story, to help it give at least
some light when there wouldn't be a lot in those
winter months.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
ESPN reports that Texas Tech pitcher Najari Kennedy signed another
nil deal to stay with the Red Raiders. She played
two seasons at Stanford, then got a lot of cash
to play at Texas Tech. Kennedy's going to get another
million dollars at least to play for the Red Raiders.
According to ESPN, Texas Tech tonight faces Texas and the
(37:29):
Winner take all Game three of the Women's College World Series.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I wish I could tell you you don't have to
follow the money to follow who's a good team, but
you have to follow the money to find out who's
a good team.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
With Texas Tech and finally Doug, the Knicks are expecting
to make a formal request to interview Mavericks head coach
Jason Kidd for their coaching vacancy.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Hmm. And remember he was a Nick when he last
played in the NBA. Then he was the Nets head
coach that next year. And that, my friends, is the
press bag.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Okay, let's prep you a little bit for Sunday because
Dan will be on air, right be on air before
the game on Sunday. But the thunder are an eleven
point favorite, eleven point favorite. The Pacers are up one
game to none right now, Dan, who would you take
with that eleven points?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Indiana?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, I mean, I just it's screaming at you to
take Indiana.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, even in the other comebacks, they haven't been blown
out in those other games.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, I do think they'll be a blowout at some
point in the series. I don't think it's Sunday. Enjoy
your weekend from The Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,
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