February 7, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug Gottlieb and Dan Beyer close out the week on Media Row in New Orleans ahead of the Big Game! Former NFL DL Akbar Gbaja-Biamila joins the guys to dive into his successful media career after playing in the league. Legendary Agent Leigh Steinberg gives his thoughts on the ways player contracts have evolved over the years. Plus, the guys share stories from their favorite moments of their week in the Big Easy!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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We have some really really good guests coming up. Tyreek
(00:43):
Hill apparently apologizing. You know, we had Tron Armstrong on
with us yesterday and he basically Armstead sorry Armstrong turn
Armstead basically said, hey, look I talked to him. He
knows what he needs to do, and maybe that's what
he he's doing.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Lee Steinberg's going to join us as we're getting ready
for the upcoming NFL Draft as well. Lee has been
a staple of the NFL draft for thirty years. Really
the quarterback agent, if you will. Jerry McGuire's basically based
upon Lee Steinberg's as a character, actually used his old office.
But I did want to start this hour because Abar
(01:24):
Baja Bi Media is going to join us. And I
don't mean this in any way other than what I'm saying.
I'm so happy for him, so so happy for him.
Akbar was at San Diego State. My brother was coming
up as an assistant coach. He was the director of
ops whatever, and I was at ESPN. This is way
(01:47):
back in the day, and he's like, dude, we got
a football player here who's going to be a TV star.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Just everybody likes him.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
He's got that he's got that magnetic sort of thing
going and and you know, look he American Jine Warrior
obviously was kind of his breakthrough TV show. You talk
about good things happening to good people, and we're in
a business. I think you can attest to this, right,
Maybe tell you what Achbar you are being.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I mean, this is this is eulogy level the way
that dead. He's just a star.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, no, no, this is Achbar knows this.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, we're in a business where my old agent is say, hey,
don't take it personal. Everybody hates everybody. Oh, everybody hates everybody.
And when when Akbar broke through on American Ninjin Warrior,
I've literally never heard anybody say anything bad about it.
Plenty of people crucify me for stuff I had.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Any Well, you know what I will say. Sometimes, you know,
even when you know no one's saying anything bad about you,
maybe in your face, but sometimes people can say stuff
behind your back.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So no doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But I I I can tell you behind your back,
bar nobody's hate none yet I appreciate that. So so
here's here's the question. Though, You're back NFL network, right yep.
And it's not like you haven't been around NFL. I
haven't played in the NFL. Your brother played in the NFL,
but you did, you kind of became a network TV star.
What's it like to circle back to kind of you know,
(03:21):
the wellspring of at all to covering football.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
You know, it's been great, I think, you know, to
be able to go and go back to what kind
of got me into this opportunity of being able to
do the talk and do you know Ninja warrior and
fight to survive. It's been really cool to see that
because I think the one thing that's been true for
me is I absolutely love to see, you know, people
shine and to see the stories that are being told,
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but also too to be able to bring my unique perspective,
which is, you know sometimes that I don't always go
and talk about, you know, the big names, and of
course I've talked about Patrick Mahomes lot this year in
sa kuon Barkley, but I think about in this game.
I think about, you know, the stories of like a
Mike Collendo, you know, and being able to you know,
Joe Tony moves out to the left tackle position. You
talk about Matt Kelly Endo getting that opportunity, you know,
(04:08):
a guy who's you know, on a practice squad and
gets elevated and now playing in the biggest game of
his life. Now does that meet the editorial you know
for standard Maybe not, but it's something that means a
lot to me because why I was a fifty three
man guy, right, I was a guy who's undrafted. I
came into the league and trying to find my way.
I didn't have a big name, but didn't have big
productions or you know, production or anything like that. But
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so those stories mean a lot to me, and so
it gives me great honor to a as a fan of
the game since I was a kid, to be able
to talk about the game, but also talk about it
from a standpoint of you know, I know that fifty
three man guy who's been working his butt off and
now he's here and has his moment.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
NFL Network talent and host of American Ninja Warrior on
NBC ak Barbaja Biamia joining us here. I think it's
fitting to say this, especially for what we saw. We're
seeing so much on social media today and what we
heard last night Shannon and Sterling sharp, Oh, I know
you was Kabir's brother.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, no, no, no, actually I wasn't. Actually I wasn't.
I was Cabar's little brothers. How they refer to me. Yeah,
but that's how I know. I grew up in Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Obviously his great years with with the Packers and such.
When you see a moment like Sterling and Shannon had, yeah,
I cried, you did.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I cried? Yeah, because.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
You think about they was so and I can relate
to it because I have a brother who's an absolute superstar,
and both those guys are superstar.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
But to see the reverence.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
That Shannon Sharp has for for Sterling and what Sterling created,
and it really makes me appreciate what my brother did
for me in a lot of ways, his excellence on
the football field from Crenshaw High School to San Diego
State to the Green Bay Packers, and it allowed people
to give me an opportunity. Now, you know, those guys'
(05:55):
relationships are a little different because they excel. Both of
them excelled at a high level. But I think it's
somebody's setting the being the trail blazer and setting the path,
and my brother set the path. And what people don't
realize for any trail blazer in life, the person who
goes through the door first is probably going to take
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all of the heat and you know a lot of
the stuff that comes with it, how to deal with
family members, how to deal with success, how to deal
with the pressure, and all this other stuff. And then
be able to turn back around and set it as
an example, and also to be able to give that
back to the person who's coming right behind you.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
That's pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
It's absolutely cool, And to me, I'm forever indebted to
the opportunity that my brother set for me just by
his example. He didn't you know, I didn't get into
the league because of him, but he was able to
allow eyes to see you differently. It's just so different
than you know. I think about what Michael Strahan has
done and for me and my career just being able
to be a mentor. But Michael Strahan excelling allow people
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to see me and what I can do outside as.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
A football player. Oh, he can talk about more than
just football.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I think about you know, Nate Burleson, people and executives
and production company could wait.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
He can talk about more than just football.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
So sometimes you need that first person to take all
the heat, all this stereotype and all that take that
first and then everybody else can benefit off of it.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I will point out Nate Burlson's debut on national radio
was on Game Night at ESPN Radio with with me
and Chuck Wilson. It's pretty pretty amazing to watch it.
I want to ask you about Ninja Warrior. Yeah, when
were you pitched on being on the show? When when
did somebody pitch you the show?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
So it was it was so funny because I lied. Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
So, my agent at the time called me and said, hey,
I've got this opportunity for you to audition for the
show Ninja Warrior, and and I'm like, all right, cool,
you ever heard Yeah? Oh yeah, I'll watch it all
the time. I'd never watched it. No, And but by
this time in my career, I was already getting ready
to jump out out of TV altogether. Remember you remember, yeah,
(08:03):
because I just I was it wasn't hitting, and I
remember my wife hit me up with the reality I'm
just keeping it one hundred with you guys. I was
down to my last forty thousand dollars I had, you know,
now married to kids, and things weren't working out. I
started selling turf for the same turf that they have
at the Cowboys Stadium, the same one that they have
in the Vegas AD. I was selling for that company,
(08:23):
and I was going around to USCO everywhere, and I
was like, all right, I'm jumping out of this. I
got to start making money for my family. And I
had heard a thousand no's, and so I get this
call out of nowhere. A I lied and told my
wife I had a sales meeting. I didn't, and I
went out for this audition, and I'm like, you know
what everybody tells me, No, anyway, I don't care. I
really went in with the I don't care, and so
(08:44):
I went into that audition and I acted a straight fool,
and I just went into my version of WWE for
Ninja Warrior because it was very stiff before and now
they used to call it. I'm like, oh my god,
look at this dude. Do all here acting crazy and
it's just like and I walked out was like, thanks, guys.
I didn't think anything of it. And then two weeks later,
I get a phone call, Hey, welcome to Primetime. What
(09:06):
are you talking about? You're gonna be the next host
of American Man. Once again, I found myself crying and
it was cool. So that's how it happened. I really
didn't I didn't even think twice about it. I walked
out of there thinking I hear the same thing, Oh
we love you, you're on our short list whatever, whatever,
blah blah blah. I didn't even care, you know, I
just did it because it was an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
If I would have told you when you did that
audition that not only would you be this huge star
but they have Ninja Warrior classes.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Do they have like stores?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
They have they have birthday parties, like the coolest birthday party.
My son is like ten years ago, like a Ninja
Warrior and the kids love it. It's the Ninja Worrior
thing is kind of crazy, how that's say it is.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I think it's the one show that people can replicate
and have fun. I go to parks and I hear
kids talking about, Oh, I'm Ninja Warrior and now they
have American Ninja Warrior at Venture Parks, which is pretty
cool that they have that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, here's a cool thing I like about it.
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Speaker 7 (10:17):
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Speaker 2 (10:29):
You know? But they show people failing.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's not everything, but his commentary, his commentary.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I believe they record. It's not the commentary isn't live
play by player don't know. I'm not talking about him.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I'm talking about no no, no, no, no, no no,
Just so you know, no, the commentary is not we're
there like this is not like you're talking about wipeout
where they do it, they film it.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I had to wipe out. No, we are there live
in their face, dug our commentary. I didn't know. I
didn't know. You're my bad.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You told I look at body type. I'm always about
body type. But it's like that he's too heavy, arms
aren't long enough, no chance, whatever, It doesn't matter what
their job is. I just like a body tep. You
gotta be like like strong, but like super light, because
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Speaker 5 (11:14):
Once you get over over one hundred and seventy pounds,
it becomes incrementally more difficult to get yourself through. So
anybody who's over one seventy five, so you might hear
a say, oh this guy is a big dude.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Anybody he's not that big.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
He's six one two o five for Ninja Warrior, carrying
two hundred pounds and traversing across all these obstacles, it's
extremely difficult.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
If you tried it, yeah, I did. I back you go,
I tell anybody go YouTube.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
At twenty eighteen, I ran it two hundred and forty
seven pounds, had to lose thirteen pounds just to be
able to run it, and it was one of the
hardest train I did two days to train for it,
but I did it.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I ended up doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Was the hardest obstacle I think all of them.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Because there was in my head I had so much
fear about.
Speaker 8 (11:53):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I even called my brother to give me a hype
you know, hype speech because I'm like, I was a
football dude coming into this world and I wanted to
give it all the respect. But I was like, I'm
telling these dudes, oh, you should be doing that, and
he should be. He messed up in that time. He
should have went with this technique. And I'm like, yeah,
easy for you to say in the booth. So if
I get out there and I follow on the first obstacle,
I lose all my credentials, Like, you know, my cred
(12:15):
is out the window. Like, man, this dude talking, he
couldn't even do it, and I'm doing it on TV.
So I'm like, I was nervous and to hit that buzzer.
First off, I will never try train for it again
because I'm not doing it. That was so hard to do.
I was successful. I'm good, I have it on tape.
I'm good man.
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you know, Tyreek's got some apologize to, He's got he's
got to gotta make right in the locker.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
He knows what he has to do. I believe is
the is the direct quote.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Here's what Tyreek Hill said earlier today on the NFL Network.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
You know, tour, He's my guy.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
I always will be my guy no matter what. Man
and I'm sure like he understands my frustration. Like we
all want to win tour. He's another competitor, he's a winner,
he's consistent. I'm looking forward to just us continuing to
build our relationship. Man even more, this is my public
apology to you too.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
I love you, bro, but take it.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I mean, are you Are you sort of wanting to
say you're sorry to your team?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (15:49):
God?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (15:50):
But I mean but they already know that though, like
they know I'm not that kind of player. Though I'm
not like a lot of people may say, oh, Riecan
is a hot head, he's this, he's that. But all
my teammate is no bro. Like I come to work
every day, I bust my tail, I show up the
means on time, and.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I do what I gotta do.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I will say this, Tyreek Hill is now gotta be
careful because he is. There's gonna be a point in
his career where he's not Tyreek Hill anymore, and he
may have already reached that spot.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I think that one season of off of a what
was a fantastic year of the year before, it's not
enough information. But if twenty twenty five is more of
the same, then this stuff is over with.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well, in my business, in college basketball, we talk about
all the time, is the juice worth the squeeze?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Is the juice worth the squeeze? Or in the NFL
is the production outweighier problems? And throughout his career the
answer is being yeah. But like you said, the second
it doesn't is the second and you go like, yeah,
we're good here, we're good here. Well, you know, so
(17:07):
much of it is has you have to be managed,
And a guy who has managed some of the greats
in the history of the game is our next guest
in terms of you know, there's only a handful of
legendary NFL agents and we're so fortunate to be joined
by one. Lee Steinberg joins us now on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (17:28):
Lee, how are you doing great, Doug? Just feeling peachy.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You know, obviously you have a relationship with Pat Mahomes,
And I think most people think that when you rep
a client, it's a guy comes out of college, agent
comes in, a bunch of different agent comes in, You
make a pitch, he picks one, and that's where it
all kind of takes off.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
How did it actually work with you?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
And Pat?
Speaker 9 (17:54):
So his parents were the first screeners in the agent process,
and his father, Pat Senior, had been a baseball player
and pitching the major.
Speaker 11 (18:05):
Leagues, and he and the mom.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
Were conducting interviews in Grapevine, Texas, and we went in
and fundamentally you get to know each other. I talk
about the fact our practice is all about role modeling
and people players retracing their roots to the high school,
collegiate and professional level and setting up charitable foundations.
Speaker 11 (18:31):
But a lot of that first meeting is listening.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
It's drawing out the parents and then later drawing out
the player to understand what is critically important to them
in life. It's not presuming, but it's asking him short
term economic gain, long term economic security, spiritual values, geography,
being a starter, being on a winning team, endorsements, what
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really is critical to that individual. You can understand their
deepest anxieties and fears and greatest hopes and dreams and
put yourself in their heart and mind and see the
world the way they see it.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So when you're sitting there and Buffalo makes a deal
and you hear Kansas City Chiefs and you're here, Andy Reid.
We know that there's a jackpot with a first round pick,
but all of a sudden, if do you match that
right away with this head coach and this player, does
that stuff become immediate to an agent of all the possibilities.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Absolutely, And as you're looking at the draft, you're hoping
that the team's interested will be teams with superior and
stable ownership, great front office that can do all the
different casts, and a coach with a plan and a vision, and.
Speaker 11 (19:50):
Those organizations win.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
I mean, you saw the effect that a Jim Harbaugh
or a Sean Paydon or Dan Quinn had on their
teams just one year. So the thought of going to
the Hunch who are stable, a good front office with
Brett Veach and then fumble Ruski with Fandy Reid was
(20:15):
really a blessing.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You know, obviously Pat has been able to kind of
walk that fine line with this big contract of making
a lot of money, but also you know they're able
to still at times go out and get other guys. Now, look,
they've gone through a couple kind of lean years here
in terms of the surrounding cast, the shrinding cast with
his offensive talent. What's that like to be his right
(20:42):
hand guy and try and guide him through these things.
When your job as an agent is to get your
player the most money for the most years possible, on
the other hand, you also want to guide him to
a path to success where he can be surrounded by
a really good team.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
No, my job is to try and create situations in
a player's life to fulfill his priorities in his expectation.
I don't want to talk directly about Patrick this way,
so let's use Tom Brady. Tom Brady took less money
over time. And although when we say take less money,
(21:24):
so if tom Brady, if the market was forty two
million dollars and he got thirty seventy dollars, it wasn't
exactly like he was suffering, you know, or taking the
bus to work. But if tom Brady is the obvious
he did to find winning the Super Bowl as the
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metric that would matter in terms of his legacy, then
you're fulfilling him by locking him into the right system
and locking him into a situation. And what you have
to do is realize it's a team game. And if
you don't have those two good tackles protecting you and
(22:07):
you don't have the right weapons.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Good luck.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
And so if you ask in retrospect, would a player
with five million more dollars in his bank quok but
so fabulously wealthy trade positions?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I think they would, so, Patrick Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yesterday a LEAs Steinberg joining us here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show live from Radio Row. At Super Bowl fifty nine,
Joe Burrow goes on Fox Sports One and says, yeah,
I'd consider restructuring my deal to bring back his favorite
targets and help the defense.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is that a conversation that he has with you, the agent.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Beforehand or what damage control or what do you say
to your client after they make with statements like that?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
That's funny. In nineteen seventy five, my first client was
Steve Bartkowski, who was the first pick in the first
round of the draft, and his favorite quote before I
got him was this game so much I'd play for free.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Yes, And so.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
Hopefully you're in sync enough with your client that nothing's
going to happen that surprises you, but you know it's
his life.
Speaker 11 (23:16):
But no, normally you'd have a discussion.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
They can quantify it down to we can sign this
player if you restructure your contract, and remember a contract
can be restructured once a year or so, it's almost
like a lending bank for the team to go back
to for for more.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Kapum Lee, did you ever think you would have to
or think about the fact that NFL prospects could make
as much money as they can now to remain in college.
Did you ever think you have to deal with that?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
This was the.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Consequence of unintended consequences, and all they were trying to
do is get a player a few more spending dollars
on the college campus who came from a disadvantaged background,
you know, who couldn't work during the school year. Five
thousand dollars would have made those players very happy. Instead,
we have a system where a player can commit to
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LSU for four million dollars in o Well, Michigan just
offered fourteens. Off he goes and transfers. This is creating
a situation with hals and have nots where the four
top conferences will pull away from everyone else because they will.
Speaker 11 (24:39):
Sign all the great players and.
Speaker 9 (24:44):
Eventually they'll get rid of the NCAA. They'll negotiate their
own contracts. But we're about to see the haves and
have nots. The consequences on women's sports and on revenue
sports that are not supported by these big football basketball
will be devastating. And the fact that you can do
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the same thing again in free agency and trench or
portal upset the boundary. Doug, We've really had three fundamental
changes in the world of sports gambling, introduction conference, free alignment,
and NILS and it basically changes everything.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
It's awesome, absolutely awesome to catch up you're s. It's
just an incredible have such a incredible depth of knowledge
that I don't think anybody else has considering all the
different big name clients you've had throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We truly appreciate shoing us you on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (25:41):
It's been my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
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Speaker 11 (25:46):
Got the party.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Oh Thanksully, appreciate it alright.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
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Speaker 2 (26:27):
I am Dan Beyer live from Radio Row.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Sitting next to me is Jason Stewart, Doug Gottlieb from
our Fox Sports Radio studios back in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
as we put a bow on Super Bowl Week, and
a lot of people to thank Jason Stewart for putting
this whole thing on here, not only in New Orleans,
(26:51):
but especially back at our home base in southern California.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
I think you have the list there, and I don't
want to leave anybody out, but yes, listeners just don't
quite know what goes into something like this. A lot
of sweat, hard work. Everybody put it in the overtime
to make you talent, Doug and Dan look great.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I think you have the list there. I do thanks
to Tom Engineer Tom on site here to thank you Tom.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Thank you very much. Big thanks to le Mayont book
the what a free agent signing, Yes, huge thing.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Dave Weis.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
Dave Weis is responsible for the entire set over here,
everything that, everything you've seen.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Dave Weis is responsible for Scott Shapiro and Don Martin.
Speaker 11 (27:37):
Gotta thank the bosses.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Gotta thank them, Guy.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Elijah Sebunya and Soccer Patel.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
Digital job on the digital guys. All of our social
media is by those guys. They were putting in what
twenty hour workdays this week.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And now for the crew back in the studio in
Sherman Oaks, ladies and gentlemen, A big thanks to Iowa
sam oh I look at them myself.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Thank you so much. Ryan Burschinger, thank you, great job, Rock,
Thank you big thank you to Bo Benson.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Underrated, underrated Beast of the week both Benson right.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Ian Brandon Free, Shay, Patrick Monsey. Great at the news
desk as always, Isaac Lohing Cron who sat there for
me a couple of days prior. Thank all of you.
Thank you so much. The great week here, that Super
Bowl week on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
When you when you.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Think back to this Super Bowl, Doug, You've done so
many of these. What was your what was the highlight?
What was the big Like? Maybe there was something off air,
somebody ran you down, maybe you had a little conversation.
Will anything stick out in your mind from this twenty
twenty five Super Bowl experience?
Speaker 9 (28:55):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
You know what it was?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
The conversation with Riverboat Ron Rivera. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He talked about we talked a little on air, we
talked a little off air about coaching and culture and
building stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I thought, I thought the Riverboat Ron Rivera stuff.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
He was.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
He was great.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And then I ran into Sean Payton and Sean has
he didn't come on this year our time, at the timing,
and so I was I was literally running back to
do Drew Brees. We had a sales luncheon yesterday and
I look down and you know, I get you get
to talking these things and it's like a quarter mile
(29:34):
walk or run from our hotel to the convention center,
and all of a sudden, like somebody grabs me. And
you know when somebody grabs your shoulder, like your immediate
reaction is to like slap away their arm. But I
spun around and it's Sean, and Sean like just comes
in for a hug and I'm like, damn, I gotta go.
I can't be late for Drew. But a short conversation
(29:55):
with him over a couple of things, and he h
he he was the one who was he grabbed me.
He's like, hey, don't you go apologizing for being you?
And I was like okay, so yeah, that was that
was pretty cool too.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Most disappointing thing of the week, no doubt about it,
Jason and I last night Bourbon Street and you get
to this place and there's a lot of commotion, dug
going on the balcony all dudes, right, would you say
that's probably the most disappointing.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
All dudes on the balcony on Bourbon Street.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Just like.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Here, I noticed that Jason walked in with a bunch
of beads. Were you taking off your shirt there, Jason?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Is that how you get the.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Eagle fan dudes out there? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
There's it's one thing to have all dudes, Okay, a
high density of beat products, right, it's there's right, but
it's the whole thing to have all Eagle fan dudes.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's like the worst of the worst I have.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
I have a story that is the opposite of Doug's story.
So Doug tells a story about how Sean Payton comes
up and he gives him some advice. I'm gonna tell
you a Doug Gottlieb story from the week that's the
opposite of that. So Doug and I are kind of
walking back to our annual luncheon and he stopped by
a guy, Hey, excuse me, can we take you take
(31:19):
a picture? And does like, yeah, sure, you know, take
a picture. No, no, no, me of me and Dominic
Foxworth take a picture of me. And and that's like,
that's such a super Bowl example, Like there are so
many people when you walk the streets.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
You're like, I know who that guy is.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Wait, I've seen that kind of TV like and then
in the moment I think after he had like taken
the picture of the guy's like, wait a minute, I
know who you are.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I thought that was funny.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
Though it was it was it was funny.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I did I kind of stray just because the guy's like, hey,
you want to take a picture.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
We take a picture of us. He didn't think I
didn't think he was taking a picture of me and him.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Oh you know, I did.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I thought that's how he posted it.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
I did not. What about you?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
What about about you? Dan?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Highlight of it.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
It's been a fun week today. It was a lot
of fun talking to all the guests that we were
able to do. Loved our little get together the other night.
It's fun walking the streets of New Orleans for me.
My week, not that it's just started. But I'm here
on Tuesday morning, guys. I got the game coming up
on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Doug, I'll be doing the show from here on Monday
with you, and so I'm excited about that. But a
real good three days. Caught up with my old friends
from back in Wisconsin I used to work in radio with.
He was able to chat with them, so that was
really good too.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
All right, guys, I gotta, I gotta wonder though, I gotta.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I need you guys expound some more on your time
on Bourbon Street. Yeah, a lot of men, so I
just wanted to play. That's so good.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
It's one of those.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
It was a man.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Vegas is the outlier. Vegas is the outline, but generally
the super Bowl is corporate and a bunch of dudes, right,
I think nine of four two Final four is not corporate,
but it's it's some families put a lot of dudes,
a lot of coaching dudes with polo shirts on. I
know we're gonna be in San Antonio this year. It's
one of those like, oh, you're going to the super Bowl,
(33:14):
like it sounds a lot better than it is. Miami
is an exception as well, because Miami you have other
people that are just like in Miami, you want to
go to Miami.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I've never smoked weed, but I think I may have
gotten contact ties last night on Canal That's Street Express.
That was that was that was something you have. It
was like living in a dorm. It was like a
dorm room in college. Like wait a second, my goodness.
Everywhere it's amateur hour anyways.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
That I think.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
I think other than like New Year's Eve and Vegas,
I think Bourbon Street during the Super Bowl is the
biggest amateur hour in the country has to be.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Maybe I was so high that's all I saw were
men up on them. I just I swear, Jason, it
was just all dudes.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh, Doug, you We went to dinner the other night
and I realized when we sat down. I realized when
we sat down, I like, I love New Orleans. I
love New Orleans food, and I also like, there's a
little bit of exotic food at the place Coachean Rhey
went and I sat down, and I remembered Dan was there,
and I forgot. I honest to god, I forgotten. I
(34:17):
was like, because Dan always talks about like, look, basically
I have the diet of an elementary school boy and
he has no apologies for it. Like I like super
basic stuff. And I looked at the menu, was like,
I put Dan in a bad spot.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
But yeah, I talked to me on your back about it.
So it was it was all good. What did you have?
The fish? Literally, it was the only thing there was.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
There was no side, there was no like, there was
a There was mac and cheese, dude, it was really
good with onions what like.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
The mac and cheese was amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
But they put that big thing of oysters in front
of you, and the look on your face was hysterical.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
It was like, I don't do oysters. And then you
had the huh the out gator as.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
The alligator had the oysters, we had liver.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
I had liver.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I tried to live on everything.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, one night in New Orleans. It's like a It's
like a book or movie. I didn't have a reviewing film.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
We should have been coaching and recruiting and reviewing film
instead of going up to each exactly.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Dan ended our night. We ended our night last night,
stopping by the Caesars in town.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Did craps work out better for you?
Speaker 8 (35:30):
So?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
And it did?
Speaker 8 (35:31):
In Vegas and me and you, I could not be
I was drawn to the tables. Daniel, Daniel, he was
my witness. I didn't show up with much money. I
had to go to the ATM to get a bunch
of money to play craps. And I asked if he
wanted to be in on it, like Doug was in Vegas,
and Dan zech no thanks. And that was a very
(35:52):
smart decision. I went through the money like in maybe
ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Right, I'm gonna just say this that this is the
second time. Yes, one was the experience. You said you
had a system.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Oh I do.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Yeah, I've got a system.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Reminds me of the banned system of the Down. Really quickly,
let's kind of go around the room here, Sam.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Let me start with you. What happens on Sunday with
the game.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Eagles fly by two touchdowns, thirty four to twenty. Okay,
how about you there, Jay Stu, I bought interest.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I have the Chiefs minus the points.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So Chiefs, okay, Dann Byer, Doug, I am with Iowa
Sam on this or Philly chief Steaks, Sam, whatever we're
calling them now, Eagles thirty three to twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
We're doing You're doing score and everything over. You know,
It's just like, I think the Eagles have more talent.
I think the Eagles are a better football team. I
think their defense coordiners outstanding, right outstanding. But then I
just I don't know. This is like Kansas basketball in
the Big Twelve. At the end of the day, I'm
(36:57):
taking Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes to win a close game.
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Speaker 2 (37:04):
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We have some really really good guests coming up. Tyreek
(00:43):
Hill apparently apologizing. You know, we had Tron Armstrong on
with us yesterday and he basically Armstead sorry Armstrong turn
Armstead basically said, hey, look I talked to him. He
knows what he needs to do, and maybe that's what
he he's doing.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Lee Steinberg's going to join us as we're getting ready
for the upcoming NFL Draft as well. Lee has been
a staple of the NFL draft for thirty years. Really
the quarterback agent, if you will. Jerry McGuire's basically based
upon Lee Steinberg's as a character, actually used his old office.
But I did want to start this hour because Abar
(01:24):
Baja Bi Media is going to join us. And I
don't mean this in any way other than what I'm saying.
I'm so happy for him, so so happy for him.
Akbar was at San Diego State. My brother was coming
up as an assistant coach. He was the director of
ops whatever, and I was at ESPN. This is way
(01:47):
back in the day, and he's like, dude, we got
a football player here who's going to be a TV star.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Just everybody likes him.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
He's got that he's got that magnetic sort of thing
going and and you know, look he American Jine Warrior
obviously was kind of his breakthrough TV show. You talk
about good things happening to good people, and we're in
a business. I think you can attest to this, right,
Maybe tell you what Achbar you are being.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I mean, this is this is eulogy level the way
that dead. He's just a star.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, no, no, this is Achbar knows this.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, we're in a business where my old agent is say, hey,
don't take it personal. Everybody hates everybody. Oh, everybody hates everybody.
And when when Akbar broke through on American Ninjin Warrior,
I've literally never heard anybody say anything bad about it.
Plenty of people crucify me for stuff I had.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Any Well, you know what I will say. Sometimes, you know,
even when you know no one's saying anything bad about you,
maybe in your face, but sometimes people can say stuff
behind your back.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So no doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But I I I can tell you behind your back,
bar nobody's hate none yet I appreciate that. So so
here's here's the question. Though, You're back NFL network, right yep.
And it's not like you haven't been around NFL. I
haven't played in the NFL. Your brother played in the NFL,
but you did, you kind of became a network TV star.
What's it like to circle back to kind of you know,
(03:21):
the wellspring of at all to covering football.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
You know, it's been great, I think, you know, to
be able to go and go back to what kind
of got me into this opportunity of being able to
do the talk and do you know Ninja warrior and
fight to survive. It's been really cool to see that
because I think the one thing that's been true for
me is I absolutely love to see, you know, people
shine and to see the stories that are being told,
(03:45):
but also too to be able to bring my unique perspective,
which is, you know sometimes that I don't always go
and talk about, you know, the big names, and of
course I've talked about Patrick Mahomes lot this year in
sa kuon Barkley, but I think about in this game.
I think about, you know, the stories of like a
Mike Collendo, you know, and being able to you know,
Joe Tony moves out to the left tackle position. You
talk about Matt Kelly Endo getting that opportunity, you know,
(04:08):
a guy who's you know, on a practice squad and
gets elevated and now playing in the biggest game of
his life. Now does that meet the editorial you know
for standard Maybe not, but it's something that means a
lot to me because why I was a fifty three
man guy, right, I was a guy who's undrafted. I
came into the league and trying to find my way.
I didn't have a big name, but didn't have big
productions or you know, production or anything like that. But
(04:31):
so those stories mean a lot to me, and so
it gives me great honor to a as a fan of
the game since I was a kid, to be able
to talk about the game, but also talk about it
from a standpoint of you know, I know that fifty
three man guy who's been working his butt off and
now he's here and has his moment.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
NFL Network talent and host of American Ninja Warrior on
NBC ak Barbaja Biamia joining us here. I think it's
fitting to say this, especially for what we saw. We're
seeing so much on social media today and what we
heard last night Shannon and Sterling sharp, Oh, I know
you was Kabir's brother.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, no, no, no, actually I wasn't. Actually I wasn't.
I was Cabar's little brothers. How they refer to me. Yeah,
but that's how I know. I grew up in Wisconsin.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Obviously his great years with with the Packers and such.
When you see a moment like Sterling and Shannon had, yeah,
I cried, you did.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I cried? Yeah, because.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
You think about they was so and I can relate
to it because I have a brother who's an absolute superstar,
and both those guys are superstar.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
But to see the reverence.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
That Shannon Sharp has for for Sterling and what Sterling created,
and it really makes me appreciate what my brother did
for me in a lot of ways, his excellence on
the football field from Crenshaw High School to San Diego
State to the Green Bay Packers, and it allowed people
to give me an opportunity. Now, you know, those guys'
(05:55):
relationships are a little different because they excel. Both of
them excelled at a high level. But I think it's
somebody's setting the being the trail blazer and setting the path,
and my brother set the path. And what people don't
realize for any trail blazer in life, the person who
goes through the door first is probably going to take
(06:15):
all of the heat and you know a lot of
the stuff that comes with it, how to deal with
family members, how to deal with success, how to deal
with the pressure, and all this other stuff. And then
be able to turn back around and set it as
an example, and also to be able to give that
back to the person who's coming right behind you.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
That's pretty pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
It's absolutely cool, And to me, I'm forever indebted to
the opportunity that my brother set for me just by
his example. He didn't you know, I didn't get into
the league because of him, but he was able to
allow eyes to see you differently. It's just so different
than you know. I think about what Michael Strahan has
done and for me and my career just being able
to be a mentor. But Michael Strahan excelling allow people
(06:58):
to see me and what I can do outside as.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
A football player. Oh, he can talk about more than
just football.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I think about you know, Nate Burleson, people and executives
and production company could wait.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
He can talk about more than just football.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
So sometimes you need that first person to take all
the heat, all this stereotype and all that take that
first and then everybody else can benefit off of it.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I will point out Nate Burlson's debut on national radio
was on Game Night at ESPN Radio with with me
and Chuck Wilson. It's pretty pretty amazing to watch it.
I want to ask you about Ninja Warrior. Yeah, when
were you pitched on being on the show? When when
did somebody pitch you the show?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
So it was it was so funny because I lied. Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
So, my agent at the time called me and said, hey,
I've got this opportunity for you to audition for the
show Ninja Warrior, and and I'm like, all right, cool,
you ever heard Yeah? Oh yeah, I'll watch it all
the time. I'd never watched it. No, And but by
this time in my career, I was already getting ready
to jump out out of TV altogether. Remember you remember, yeah,
(08:03):
because I just I was it wasn't hitting, and I
remember my wife hit me up with the reality I'm
just keeping it one hundred with you guys. I was
down to my last forty thousand dollars I had, you know,
now married to kids, and things weren't working out. I
started selling turf for the same turf that they have
at the Cowboys Stadium, the same one that they have
in the Vegas AD. I was selling for that company,
(08:23):
and I was going around to USCO everywhere, and I
was like, all right, I'm jumping out of this. I
got to start making money for my family. And I
had heard a thousand no's, and so I get this
call out of nowhere. A I lied and told my
wife I had a sales meeting. I didn't, and I
went out for this audition, and I'm like, you know
what everybody tells me, No, anyway, I don't care. I
really went in with the I don't care, and so
(08:44):
I went into that audition and I acted a straight fool,
and I just went into my version of WWE for
Ninja Warrior because it was very stiff before and now
they used to call it. I'm like, oh my god,
look at this dude. Do all here acting crazy and
it's just like and I walked out was like, thanks, guys.
I didn't think anything of it. And then two weeks later,
I get a phone call, Hey, welcome to Primetime. What
(09:06):
are you talking about? You're gonna be the next host
of American Man. Once again, I found myself crying and
it was cool. So that's how it happened. I really
didn't I didn't even think twice about it. I walked
out of there thinking I hear the same thing, Oh
we love you, you're on our short list whatever, whatever,
blah blah blah. I didn't even care, you know, I
just did it because it was an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
If I would have told you when you did that
audition that not only would you be this huge star
but they have Ninja Warrior classes.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Do they have like stores?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
They have they have birthday parties, like the coolest birthday party.
My son is like ten years ago, like a Ninja
Warrior and the kids love it. It's the Ninja Worrior
thing is kind of crazy, how that's say it is.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I think it's the one show that people can replicate
and have fun. I go to parks and I hear
kids talking about, Oh, I'm Ninja Warrior and now they
have American Ninja Warrior at Venture Parks, which is pretty
cool that they have that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, here's a cool thing I like about it.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
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You guess who's on the starting block, who's going to
do well, and then they're done in two levels and
the person you think this person's done.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Hold on, Hold on, Dan, Dan, Dan, Yes, hold on,
hold on? I par I mean live bro come on
now right?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You know? But they show people failing.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's not everything, but his commentary, his commentary.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I believe they record. It's not the commentary isn't live
play by player don't know. I'm not talking about him.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I'm talking about no no, no, no, no, no no,
Just so you know, no, the commentary is not we're
there like this is not like you're talking about wipeout
where they do it, they film it.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I had to wipe out. No, we are there live
in their face, dug our commentary. I didn't know. I
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You told I look at body type. I'm always about
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their job is. I just like a body tep. You
gotta be like like strong, but like super light, because
so much of it there is.
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it becomes incrementally more difficult to get yourself through. So
anybody who's over one seventy five, so you might hear
a say, oh this guy is a big dude.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
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Because there was in my head I had so much
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Speaker 5 (11:54):
I even called my brother to give me a hype
you know, hype speech because I'm like, I was a
football dude coming into this world and I wanted to
give it all the respect. But I was like, I'm
telling these dudes, oh, you should be doing that, and
he should be. He messed up in that time. He
should have went with this technique. And I'm like, yeah,
easy for you to say in the booth. So if
I get out there and I follow on the first obstacle,
I lose all my credentials, Like, you know, my cred
(12:15):
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couldn't even do it, and I'm doing it on TV.
So I'm like, I was nervous and to hit that buzzer.
First off, I will never try train for it again
because I'm not doing it. That was so hard to do.
I was successful. I'm good, I have it on tape.
I'm good man.
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(15:16):
you know, Tyreek's got some apologize to, He's got he's
got to gotta make right in the locker.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
He knows what he has to do. I believe is
the is the direct quote.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Here's what Tyreek Hill said earlier today on the NFL Network.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
You know, tour, He's my guy.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
I always will be my guy no matter what. Man
and I'm sure like he understands my frustration. Like we
all want to win tour. He's another competitor, he's a winner,
he's consistent. I'm looking forward to just us continuing to
build our relationship. Man even more, this is my public
apology to you too.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
I love you, bro, but take it.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I mean, are you Are you sort of wanting to
say you're sorry to your team?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (15:49):
God?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (15:50):
But I mean but they already know that though, like
they know I'm not that kind of player. Though I'm
not like a lot of people may say, oh, Riecan
is a hot head, he's this, he's that. But all
my teammate is no bro. Like I come to work
every day, I bust my tail, I show up the
means on time, and.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I do what I gotta do.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I will say this, Tyreek Hill is now gotta be
careful because he is. There's gonna be a point in
his career where he's not Tyreek Hill anymore, and he
may have already reached that spot.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I think that one season of off of a what
was a fantastic year of the year before, it's not
enough information. But if twenty twenty five is more of
the same, then this stuff is over with.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well, in my business, in college basketball, we talk about
all the time, is the juice worth the squeeze?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Is the juice worth the squeeze? Or in the NFL
is the production outweighier problems? And throughout his career the
answer is being yeah. But like you said, the second
it doesn't is the second and you go like, yeah,
we're good here, we're good here. Well, you know, so
(17:07):
much of it is has you have to be managed,
And a guy who has managed some of the greats
in the history of the game is our next guest
in terms of you know, there's only a handful of
legendary NFL agents and we're so fortunate to be joined
by one. Lee Steinberg joins us now on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (17:28):
Lee, how are you doing great, Doug? Just feeling peachy.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You know, obviously you have a relationship with Pat Mahomes,
And I think most people think that when you rep
a client, it's a guy comes out of college, agent
comes in, a bunch of different agent comes in, You
make a pitch, he picks one, and that's where it
all kind of takes off.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
How did it actually work with you?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
And Pat?
Speaker 9 (17:54):
So his parents were the first screeners in the agent process,
and his father, Pat Senior, had been a baseball player
and pitching the major.
Speaker 11 (18:05):
Leagues, and he and the mom.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
Were conducting interviews in Grapevine, Texas, and we went in
and fundamentally you get to know each other. I talk
about the fact our practice is all about role modeling
and people players retracing their roots to the high school,
collegiate and professional level and setting up charitable foundations.
Speaker 11 (18:31):
But a lot of that first meeting is listening.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
It's drawing out the parents and then later drawing out
the player to understand what is critically important to them
in life. It's not presuming, but it's asking him short
term economic gain, long term economic security, spiritual values, geography,
being a starter, being on a winning team, endorsements, what
(18:55):
really is critical to that individual. You can understand their
deepest anxieties and fears and greatest hopes and dreams and
put yourself in their heart and mind and see the
world the way they see it.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
So when you're sitting there and Buffalo makes a deal
and you hear Kansas City Chiefs and you're here, Andy Reid.
We know that there's a jackpot with a first round pick,
but all of a sudden, if do you match that
right away with this head coach and this player, does
that stuff become immediate to an agent of all the possibilities.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Absolutely, And as you're looking at the draft, you're hoping
that the team's interested will be teams with superior and
stable ownership, great front office that can do all the
different casts, and a coach with a plan and a vision, and.
Speaker 11 (19:50):
Those organizations win.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
I mean, you saw the effect that a Jim Harbaugh
or a Sean Paydon or Dan Quinn had on their
teams just one year. So the thought of going to
the Hunch who are stable, a good front office with
Brett Veach and then fumble Ruski with Fandy Reid was
(20:15):
really a blessing.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
You know, obviously Pat has been able to kind of
walk that fine line with this big contract of making
a lot of money, but also you know they're able
to still at times go out and get other guys. Now, look,
they've gone through a couple kind of lean years here
in terms of the surrounding cast, the shrinding cast with
his offensive talent. What's that like to be his right
(20:42):
hand guy and try and guide him through these things.
When your job as an agent is to get your
player the most money for the most years possible, on
the other hand, you also want to guide him to
a path to success where he can be surrounded by
a really good team.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
No, my job is to try and create situations in
a player's life to fulfill his priorities in his expectation.
I don't want to talk directly about Patrick this way,
so let's use Tom Brady. Tom Brady took less money
over time. And although when we say take less money,
(21:24):
so if tom Brady, if the market was forty two
million dollars and he got thirty seventy dollars, it wasn't
exactly like he was suffering, you know, or taking the
bus to work. But if tom Brady is the obvious
he did to find winning the Super Bowl as the
(21:44):
metric that would matter in terms of his legacy, then
you're fulfilling him by locking him into the right system
and locking him into a situation. And what you have
to do is realize it's a team game. And if
you don't have those two good tackles protecting you and
(22:07):
you don't have the right weapons.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Good luck.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
And so if you ask in retrospect, would a player
with five million more dollars in his bank quok but
so fabulously wealthy trade positions?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I think they would, so, Patrick Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yesterday a LEAs Steinberg joining us here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show live from Radio Row. At Super Bowl fifty nine,
Joe Burrow goes on Fox Sports One and says, yeah,
I'd consider restructuring my deal to bring back his favorite
targets and help the defense.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is that a conversation that he has with you, the agent.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Beforehand or what damage control or what do you say
to your client after they make with statements like that?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
That's funny. In nineteen seventy five, my first client was
Steve Bartkowski, who was the first pick in the first
round of the draft, and his favorite quote before I
got him was this game so much I'd play for free.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Yes, And so.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
Hopefully you're in sync enough with your client that nothing's
going to happen that surprises you, but you know it's
his life.
Speaker 11 (23:16):
But no, normally you'd have a discussion.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
They can quantify it down to we can sign this
player if you restructure your contract, and remember a contract
can be restructured once a year or so, it's almost
like a lending bank for the team to go back
to for for more.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Kapum Lee, did you ever think you would have to
or think about the fact that NFL prospects could make
as much money as they can now to remain in college.
Did you ever think you have to deal with that?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
This was the.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Consequence of unintended consequences, and all they were trying to
do is get a player a few more spending dollars
on the college campus who came from a disadvantaged background,
you know, who couldn't work during the school year. Five
thousand dollars would have made those players very happy. Instead,
we have a system where a player can commit to
(24:22):
LSU for four million dollars in o Well, Michigan just
offered fourteens. Off he goes and transfers. This is creating
a situation with hals and have nots where the four
top conferences will pull away from everyone else because they will.
Speaker 11 (24:39):
Sign all the great players and.
Speaker 9 (24:44):
Eventually they'll get rid of the NCAA. They'll negotiate their
own contracts. But we're about to see the haves and
have nots. The consequences on women's sports and on revenue
sports that are not supported by these big football basketball
will be devastating. And the fact that you can do
(25:05):
the same thing again in free agency and trench or
portal upset the boundary. Doug, We've really had three fundamental
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Speaker 1 (25:27):
It's awesome, absolutely awesome to catch up you're s. It's
just an incredible have such a incredible depth of knowledge
that I don't think anybody else has considering all the
different big name clients you've had throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We truly appreciate shoing us you on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (25:41):
It's been my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And the party, the party, We've.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
Got the party.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Oh Thanksully, appreciate it alright.
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Speaker 2 (26:27):
I am Dan Beyer live from Radio Row.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Sitting next to me is Jason Stewart, Doug Gottlieb from
our Fox Sports Radio studios back in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
as we put a bow on Super Bowl Week, and
a lot of people to thank Jason Stewart for putting
this whole thing on here, not only in New Orleans,
(26:51):
but especially back at our home base in southern California.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
I think you have the list there, and I don't
want to leave anybody out, but yes, listeners just don't
quite know what goes into something like this. A lot
of sweat, hard work. Everybody put it in the overtime
to make you talent, Doug and Dan look great.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I think you have the list there. I do thanks
to Tom Engineer Tom on site here to thank you Tom.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Thank you very much. Big thanks to le Mayont book
the what a free agent signing, Yes, huge thing.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Dave Weis.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
Dave Weis is responsible for the entire set over here,
everything that, everything you've seen.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Dave Weis is responsible for Scott Shapiro and Don Martin.
Speaker 11 (27:37):
Gotta thank the bosses.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Gotta thank them, Guy.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Elijah Sebunya and Soccer Patel.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
Digital job on the digital guys. All of our social
media is by those guys. They were putting in what
twenty hour workdays this week.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And now for the crew back in the studio in
Sherman Oaks, ladies and gentlemen, A big thanks to Iowa
sam oh I look at them myself.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Thank you so much. Ryan Burschinger, thank you, great job, Rock,
Thank you big thank you to Bo Benson.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Underrated, underrated Beast of the week both Benson right.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Ian Brandon Free, Shay, Patrick Monsey. Great at the news
desk as always, Isaac Lohing Cron who sat there for
me a couple of days prior. Thank all of you.
Thank you so much. The great week here, that Super
Bowl week on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
When you when you.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
Think back to this Super Bowl, Doug, You've done so
many of these. What was your what was the highlight?
What was the big Like? Maybe there was something off air,
somebody ran you down, maybe you had a little conversation.
Will anything stick out in your mind from this twenty
twenty five Super Bowl experience?
Speaker 9 (28:55):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
You know what it was?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
The conversation with Riverboat Ron Rivera. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He talked about we talked a little on air, we
talked a little off air about coaching and culture and
building stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I thought, I thought the Riverboat Ron Rivera stuff.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
He was.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
He was great.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And then I ran into Sean Payton and Sean has
he didn't come on this year our time, at the timing,
and so I was I was literally running back to
do Drew Brees. We had a sales luncheon yesterday and
I look down and you know, I get you get
to talking these things and it's like a quarter mile
(29:34):
walk or run from our hotel to the convention center,
and all of a sudden, like somebody grabs me. And
you know when somebody grabs your shoulder, like your immediate
reaction is to like slap away their arm. But I
spun around and it's Sean, and Sean like just comes
in for a hug and I'm like, damn, I gotta go.
I can't be late for Drew. But a short conversation
(29:55):
with him over a couple of things, and he h
he he was the one who was he grabbed me.
He's like, hey, don't you go apologizing for being you?
And I was like okay, so yeah, that was that
was pretty cool too.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Most disappointing thing of the week, no doubt about it,
Jason and I last night Bourbon Street and you get
to this place and there's a lot of commotion, dug
going on the balcony all dudes, right, would you say
that's probably the most disappointing.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
All dudes on the balcony on Bourbon Street.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Just like.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Here, I noticed that Jason walked in with a bunch
of beads. Were you taking off your shirt there, Jason?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Is that how you get the.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Eagle fan dudes out there? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
There's it's one thing to have all dudes, Okay, a
high density of beat products, right, it's there's right, but
it's the whole thing to have all Eagle fan dudes.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's like the worst of the worst I have.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
I have a story that is the opposite of Doug's story.
So Doug tells a story about how Sean Payton comes
up and he gives him some advice. I'm gonna tell
you a Doug Gottlieb story from the week that's the
opposite of that. So Doug and I are kind of
walking back to our annual luncheon and he stopped by
a guy, Hey, excuse me, can we take you take
(31:19):
a picture? And does like, yeah, sure, you know, take
a picture. No, no, no, me of me and Dominic
Foxworth take a picture of me. And and that's like,
that's such a super Bowl example, Like there are so
many people when you walk the streets.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
You're like, I know who that guy is.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Wait, I've seen that kind of TV like and then
in the moment I think after he had like taken
the picture of the guy's like, wait a minute, I
know who you are.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I thought that was funny.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
Though it was it was it was funny.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I did I kind of stray just because the guy's like, hey,
you want to take a picture.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
We take a picture of us. He didn't think I
didn't think he was taking a picture of me and him.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Oh you know, I did.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I thought that's how he posted it.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
I did not. What about you?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
What about about you? Dan?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Highlight of it.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
It's been a fun week today. It was a lot
of fun talking to all the guests that we were
able to do. Loved our little get together the other night.
It's fun walking the streets of New Orleans for me.
My week, not that it's just started. But I'm here
on Tuesday morning, guys. I got the game coming up
on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Doug, I'll be doing the show from here on Monday
with you, and so I'm excited about that. But a
real good three days. Caught up with my old friends
from back in Wisconsin I used to work in radio with.
He was able to chat with them, so that was
really good too.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
All right, guys, I gotta, I gotta wonder though, I gotta.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I need you guys expound some more on your time
on Bourbon Street. Yeah, a lot of men, so I
just wanted to play. That's so good.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
It's one of those.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
It was a man.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Vegas is the outlier. Vegas is the outline, but generally
the super Bowl is corporate and a bunch of dudes, right,
I think nine of four two Final four is not corporate,
but it's it's some families put a lot of dudes,
a lot of coaching dudes with polo shirts on. I
know we're gonna be in San Antonio this year. It's
one of those like, oh, you're going to the super Bowl,
(33:14):
like it sounds a lot better than it is. Miami
is an exception as well, because Miami you have other
people that are just like in Miami, you want to
go to Miami.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I've never smoked weed, but I think I may have
gotten contact ties last night on Canal That's Street Express.
That was that was that was something you have. It
was like living in a dorm. It was like a
dorm room in college. Like wait a second, my goodness.
Everywhere it's amateur hour anyways.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
That I think.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
I think other than like New Year's Eve and Vegas,
I think Bourbon Street during the Super Bowl is the
biggest amateur hour in the country has to be.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Maybe I was so high that's all I saw were
men up on them. I just I swear, Jason, it
was just all dudes.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh, Doug, you We went to dinner the other night
and I realized when we sat down. I realized when
we sat down, I like, I love New Orleans. I
love New Orleans food, and I also like, there's a
little bit of exotic food at the place Coachean Rhey
went and I sat down, and I remembered Dan was there,
and I forgot. I honest to god, I forgotten. I
(34:17):
was like, because Dan always talks about like, look, basically
I have the diet of an elementary school boy and
he has no apologies for it. Like I like super
basic stuff. And I looked at the menu, was like,
I put Dan in a bad spot.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
But yeah, I talked to me on your back about it.
So it was it was all good. What did you have?
The fish? Literally, it was the only thing there was.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
There was no side, there was no like, there was
a There was mac and cheese, dude, it was really
good with onions what like.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
The mac and cheese was amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
But they put that big thing of oysters in front
of you, and the look on your face was hysterical.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
It was like, I don't do oysters. And then you
had the huh the out gator as.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
The alligator had the oysters, we had liver.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
I had liver.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I tried to live on everything.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, one night in New Orleans. It's like a It's
like a book or movie. I didn't have a reviewing film.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
We should have been coaching and recruiting and reviewing film
instead of going up to each exactly.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
Dan ended our night. We ended our night last night,
stopping by the Caesars in town.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Did craps work out better for you?
Speaker 8 (35:30):
So?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
And it did?
Speaker 8 (35:31):
In Vegas and me and you, I could not be
I was drawn to the tables. Daniel, Daniel, he was
my witness. I didn't show up with much money. I
had to go to the ATM to get a bunch
of money to play craps. And I asked if he
wanted to be in on it, like Doug was in Vegas,
and Dan zech no thanks. And that was a very
(35:52):
smart decision. I went through the money like in maybe
ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Right, I'm gonna just say this that this is the
second time. Yes, one was the experience. You said you
had a system.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Oh I do.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Yeah, I've got a system.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Reminds me of the banned system of the Down. Really quickly,
let's kind of go around the room here, Sam.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Let me start with you. What happens on Sunday with
the game.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Eagles fly by two touchdowns, thirty four to twenty. Okay,
how about you there, Jay Stu, I bought interest.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I have the Chiefs minus the points.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So Chiefs, okay, Dann Byer, Doug, I am with Iowa
Sam on this or Philly chief Steaks, Sam, whatever we're
calling them now, Eagles thirty three to twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
We're doing You're doing score and everything over. You know,
It's just like, I think the Eagles have more talent.
I think the Eagles are a better football team. I
think their defense coordiners outstanding, right outstanding. But then I
just I don't know. This is like Kansas basketball in
the Big Twelve. At the end of the day, I'm
(36:57):
taking Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes to win a close game.
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