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September 1, 2025 • 37 mins

Dan and Monse in for Doug: Dan and Monse talk about the crop of second-year quarterbacks in the NFL before they get into the most recent installment of "Love AND Hate". Dan and Monse share their thoughts on how the Miami-Notre Dame showdown was promoted and presented.Plus, Dan and Monse answer another submitted question about the NFL.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Car, I'm not putting you in a bad spot. It's
just I'm just gonna say it. I just asked Monzi,
you know who Tony Robbins is, and Monzi Gouse is
that the guy from P ninety X? And then I
didn't know the guy form P ninety x his name,
so I had to look it up. That's Tony Horton's

(00:37):
I'm talking about motivational speaker Guide for your Life. Tony Robbins,
Oh yeah, wakes up every morning with a cold plunge
as a cold plunge that is at his house.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
I hear those are really good for you, But I
don't know if I could do it. I've never I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
This is storty ever done a cold plunge?

Speaker 5 (00:57):
Oh yeah, no, I very much recommend.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Like in it like in a like an in and
out or like or do you do like like Brandon
our our editor here, he does cold tub professional confessionals,
do you do a tub or do you just pop
in and pop out? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:12):
I think it's like thirty seconds recommended. Maybe don't never
put your head under. But every time I do like
one of those day sball things with my girlfriend, there's
like a cold plunge. That's the only time I've ever
done it, and I do like thirty seconds, but it
feels wonderful.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
If I take a cold shower, that's as far as
it goes, like a kind of kind of light worm,
you know, that's as far.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
As I go.

Speaker 7 (01:36):
Cold plunge is what happens when you turn on the
shower and no hot water comes out.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Those cold showers are are quick.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
I don't go into the shower until I touch it,
and it's exactly the temperture I want.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
True, But if you don't have hot water, if you
ran on hot water, there is no hot water, yeah,
then you just have to Then that's when that's when
you truly figure out what is what is necessary. I'll
say this in advance of the end NFL season starting
on Thursday with the Eagles and Cowboys. I was fortunate
enough to be at Super Bowl fifty nine and I

(02:07):
completely forgot that it was thirty four to nothing in
the third quarter. Like that's just what happened on the
NFL network, that it was thirty four to nothing in
this Super Bowl. That's how much I don't remember from
the Super Bowl because of the game being such a blowout.
We'll see if the Eagles continue that with the Cowboys
coming up on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
You see what I mean. This is why the Chiefs
are on a revenge tour.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Oh yes, perfect opportunity before we get to love and
hate for me to open up our questions. We have
NFL questions. Throughout today's show, Monty and I are in
for Doug Gottlieb. We're also going to be hanging out
for Covino and Rich later on today on Fox Sports Radio.
We have a hat that we've all thrown three questions
in about the NFL season that we are answering with

(02:51):
our own thoughts. We don't know what the questions are,
So I have a question here which year two quarterback
falls back to Earth or gets worse? Bo Nicks, Jayden Daniels,
Caleb Williams, or Drake May. This is an interesting one.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I have a question before you go on, was did
you read that verbatim? Close to yes, verbatim?

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Why?

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Because I'm pretty sure I asked the exact same question,
did you write did you write?

Speaker 7 (03:22):
Though? This is another one of mine?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
This is this is the reason I knew it was
Chris was because it was folded like origami or like
one of those those paper games where you play four
six red circle. Oh you're dating Tony.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
And you're going to have a mansion.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yes, yeah? And am I dating Tony Horton or Tony Robbins,
which which Tony and I just I just ripped. I'll
say this, I think it's darn near impossible for Jade
and Daniels to match what he did a year ago.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
And I that's the logical answer. Absolutely absolutely. He blew
us out in his that's my question.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
No, I'm kidding. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Go ahead,
go ahead. I was totally busting your jobs.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
He stared at me. I thought it was that.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I just go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
No, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, it's gonna be really tough to match. I love
Michael Pennix, but he didn't play really last year until
the end, so there's you have more of a more
of a piece of work with Caleb Williams and Jayden
Daniels and Bownick.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, No, Michael Penix, we don't. We don't know.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
It's too small of a sample size, so he doesn't count.
But I think that's the right answer that Jayden. It's
gonna be hard for Jayden to top what he did
or even do it.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
We saw CJ. Stroud. We just saw Stroud.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
Because he's gonna have a harder schedule. It's gonna people
are no are going to know how to plan for him.
It's gonna be different.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Think of the games that the Commanders won last oh yeah,
and just on how crazy some of those were. They
they had the game against the Bears obviously that we
remember on the Hail Mary. They also had a game
that I will never forget where the Giants didn't have
a kicker, and so the Commanders won with like seven
field goals because they couldn't get into the end zone.

(05:11):
But the Giants couldn't kick, so they had to go
forward on fourth down all the time, and it ends
up they end up winning a close game in that scenario.
So to answer that question, I'm gonna say, Jayden Daniels
of the Commanders.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Don't you guys think that if if Caleb Williams has
the exact same season so he doesn't digress at all,
that's still gonna be a major step back, right.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
I mostly I mostly opened this up to bow Nicks
as well, because I quietly the Broncos like to have
the turnaround they have, and I don't think a lot
of people are talking about him because right now, like
I think the Chargers and the Chiefs are eating up
a lot of that conversation in that division. But I think,
I mean I personally quietly like, look at the Broncos, like,
all right, I could see them being the team that
takes the step forward. But every year it feels like

(05:56):
this was a really good quarterback class, and I don't
think we really appreciate sheated it last year as being
a really great quarterback two years ago. Excuse me, I
think that's a year and a half if you will, year, Yeah,
two drafts ago. Let's go with that. That But usually
most these guys end up falling off. And yet a
lot of the talk, even besides Jayden Daniels, has been

(06:19):
Drake May looked good in Spurts and bo Nicks took
them to the playoffs and Caleb Williams you can see
their growth there. I'm just curious how many of these
guys really just keep that forward dementum because we usually
see there's usually like maybe one and even then they
might have a slump of a sophomore year two.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
There's going to be a bust there is like I'm sorry,
We're just not We're not going to hit six out
of six from this quarterback class. It's just not going
to happen. And I think that the bow Nick scenario,
he has two things going for him. Number One, I
think we think they're a defensive team, which they are,
but he's still threw twenty nine touchdown passes and through
for thirty seven hundred yards in his rookie season. But
we are also not talking about that. Like the Commanders,

(06:58):
they are on the shoulders of Jade Daniels, the Bears
really are on the shoulders of Caleb Williams and how
far that they go Drake May. I expect great things
from New England, but again, like Pennix, there really wasn't
as much of a sample size that you could talk
about and so in a weird way, I like Bonnicks
working with Sean Payton, and I just think it's difficult
for Jane Daniels to match what he did. All right,

(07:21):
you guys love that answer?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
I agree? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
What else did you love? For the weekend? It's time
for love and hate?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
What did you love? God?

Speaker 4 (07:28):
I love you?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
And what did you hate?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Meet these player haters? We get what we love and
what we hate from the weekend. Bringing it to the
table here, I'm going to just go first because I
think it's pretty obvious the Ohio State's went over Texas.
Great way to start the college football season. In a way,

(07:51):
as long as the bottom doesn't fall out, I feel
it a way like it's go to Ohio State and
the College Football Playoff. It's crazy to say after Week one,
but if you win the games that you're supposed to,
even if you lose at home to a really good
Penn State team, and even if the unthinkable happens that
you fall to Michigan at the end, sorry, Texas is
gonna be there. Texas is gonna be a top five,
top ten team. You're gonna have that on your resume.

(08:13):
Ohio State's win over the Longhorns. Is what I love
from this weekend.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
No surprise there, no surprise at all.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
What did you love?

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Okay, I y'all, I love the Swifties.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
I am not a Swiftie because I think a swifty
would say I'm not a swiftye.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
But I'm a big Taylor Swift fan. All right.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
I went through a concert. We all know that. But
Swifties all you do not mess with them. So the
game was was it the game Friday? Maybe it was
not this weekend, but it just happened at Arrowhead, Nebraska
Cincinnati playing.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah. Yeah, it was Thursday night.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Thursday night. So let me tell you. I got to
bring this up because the Swifties are so good.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
After the game, Nebraska decided to tweet out the picture,
a photoshop picture of it was the engagement photo of
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
But they put the Scott in for Nebraska and said in.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
This photoshop picture after they won, and then the quote
was change of plans because it was their engagement picture
because she was with the mascot.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
The Swifties were not having it. They were so mad.
Nebraska took the post down. That is the power of
the Swifties, and I love it. I love it so
much that fan base. I mean, like they're gonna protect
their girl the whole way. They took down the.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Post because she wouldn't cheat on Travis Kelcey and leave him.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
For FROMSCA and they had from Ascot and they made
a great point in like the comments half of them.
They were like, you had a good picture of Travis
Kelcey being I think, wasn't there like a last minute
interception by Cincinnati and I think he's in the box
and he's like making a face. You could have tweeted
that once you beat them, Sure not Taylor Swift And
that was their point and they took it down.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So I love the Swifties, like Can's off. Yeah yeah,
it was yeah, yeah, Nebraska saving the day because it
looked a little sketchy there against the Bearcats late. All right, Jason,
sort what'd you love from this past weekend?

Speaker 5 (10:10):
I love that the two things that I'm rooting for
in college football this year got off to great starts.
So I'm a casual college football fan. I don't necessarily
pull for a team. I don't really know the sport
that well, but I do root for these two storylines
to fail. I need Dion Sanders to fail without Shador
and Travis Hunter, and I need Arch Manning to fail.

(10:31):
That'll be a more interesting storyline. They're off to great starts.
Friday night, Coach Prime had a controversial time clock issue
at the end of his game, and Arch Manning did
his part as well.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
So I love that. Thank you college football again. I
think the better stories if arch is great, and then
we say does he go to the NFL? Does he
do the Peyton thing and stay in school when he
could have gone, That's what I think is interesting. Jason
differs and that's why he's a happy man this time around.
Chris Purfett, what'd you love from the weekend?

Speaker 7 (11:06):
So two very quick things. First off is we finally
got number sixty five of what is known in the
USC fandom as the perfect Day. I think it's been
almost eight years. Don't crack my math on that. I
believe last time was like twenty eighteen, and it did
take close to twenty four solid hours to get that
because USC and UCLA both played. For those who don't know,

(11:28):
a perfect day from the school broadcaster is basically USC
has to win UCLA loses, Notre Dame loses. Now, Notre
Dame did play on Sunday, but it was in a
twenty four hour window between the USC and UCLA games.
So I'm gonna take it. There's not much for me
to root for elite recently for USC, but hey, they

(11:50):
they look fine in their opener. Ucla did not and
got you know, screwed around pretty hard, and Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (11:57):
I think that Miami pass rush is gonna be really
damn good this year. But I'll take it. I'll take it.
It gets me fired up a little bit. The other
thing I really love from this weekend.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
And by the way, I was just going to say,
before you take two loves on this, you're about to
Iowa Salmon, I mean Missouri State. Just you're not going
to walk into the coliseum. I think you're going to
get a w I mean, seventy three to thirteen. It's
you don't do that. You don't do that in the
Land of Troy. Sorry no, and I'm sorry. Did Iowa

(12:28):
sam this? But I just saw this this morning and
I really wanted to get on it. I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
Not Oakland. The athletics posted yesterday about everyone you know about. Hey,
look all our players coming to the stadium wearing NFL
jerseys were feeling the football mood. Sean Newcombe, recently from
the Boston Red Sox, wore a Patriots jersey with the
number eighty.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
One on it.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
Oh boy, So it was so the team had to
step in just this morning and zoom in on the
poto to show the Mitchell and Ness patch that it
was indeed Randy Moss's number eighty one and not what
everyone perceived was an Aaron Hernandez number eighty one.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh very good.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
By the way, every reply to the athletics still locked.
You still can't actually reply to them. This is all
in quote tweets.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I see, I fell for it. I fell for it
in a way they should have. They should have just
one the back of the jersey. He thought the same thing.
And I forgot that Randy Moss wore eighty one.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
I'm bad with numbers. Wouldn't have thought of that.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
All right, Let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
There was the love. Four of us, five loves. There
cannot be five hates. We can only do four. Resident hater,
he's the resident resident hater. Jason Stewart.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
For a second, I was like, Dan Barr's losing it.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Tongue always calls Jason the resident hater, and it is.
It isn't like embraced by Jason, I would say, so,
I just figured.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
I'd double down. Why not?

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, I don't know if it's embraced. I mean, we
can we can stop the music and I can get
into my entire nuanced opinion of being pigeonholed. A resident.
I like to call it more like a a thoughtful skeptic,
someone who goes out of their way to find Devil's

(14:25):
advocate angles on stories. Anyways, we can go back to
the music. On the weekend, It's time we.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Are hating class with class. We're hating with class.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Thoughtful skeptic. Jason Stewart, thank you, thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Dan.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
So Uh, what I hated from the weekend is that
the Dodgers, my Dodgers have have seemed to regress to
where they were before the Pods. Why is that funny?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Because I told you guys to not freak out.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Why is that funny? Dan? Yeah, I know, they seemingly
have regressed to what they remember I said after they
swept the Podrays that they had forgotten about all of
their flaws. They seem to resolve all of their issues.
What is the word bugaboo? They seem to resolve all
their bugaboos and one one weekend. I could be wrong

(15:24):
on that. Chris is the one with four bears. So
this past weekend against the Diamondbacks are still doing the
same old stuff that frustrated Mansy and me for most
of the season. They just they're not playing up to
what the roster of superstars and overpaid people should be

(15:45):
playing at this juncture. So I'm back to kind of
worrying about us as we enter September.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You you blow a lead and then Will Smith saves
the day, and it's like putting cologne on when you
haven't taken a shower for a week. That is that fair?

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Like Tanner Scott had to blow the lead with two
outs in the eighth. Yeah, for me to feel that way, yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah. I I I huddled under the desk because it
was prior to that Padre series that I said Monci
and Jason are freaking out for no reason whatsoever. That
once you come through the weekend, you sweep that series.
You're two up on San Diego, which they did, and then.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
They lost to the Rockies and it hasn't been immediately
lost to the Rockies after that.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Oh, so annoying. They're so annoying.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
All right, what'd you hate from the weekend? Manzi?

Speaker 6 (16:32):
So this is what I hate right now, is like,
now everybody thinks they're an expert in fantasy football, and
so you I'm annoyed that everyone's like running back, running back,
brunning back, bunning back.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Dab it.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
You're just doing that because you've read about it when
you know now you can't like it's it's frustrating.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
I just did a draft yesterday that I forgot about,
but I did it.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
It's frustrating because I'm like you just you went down
and like dove deep into running backs because you read
that you need to get the running backs early on
in these rounds.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
It's so annoying.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Everybody everybody has the same plan, the same game plan,
when before it wasn't like that. Now everyone's game plan
is the same running.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Backs, running backs, running backs.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
It is interesting. It's annoying because I do think in
fantasy football and when we look at the NFL and
we see the value of receivers right, and we think
that receivers like Jamar Chase is overtaken. There was a
time when in fantasy football the first eight picks would
be running backs. Now it's Jamar Chase is in that mix.
But I think in a weird way, it's made running

(17:38):
backs even more valuable than they were before because you
have to get a good one that can do both
run and catch. So I understand your frustration.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
It's just I just am like annoyed with my all
of my teams. I'm like, this is not the team
I wanted. But it causes a ripple effect. If you
did this, well, I gotta go get this. I gotta
go dive deep into the running backs as well, because
you're all jumping the gun.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
You'll do a draft. You'll end up with Malik Neighbors
and Brian Thomas and you're like, great, that's awesome. I
picked at the back end. And then you get your
graft trade and draft grade is what I tried to say,
And then you're like, c plus what oh greats? Or
d I know she got? She has Caleb Johnson from
the Steelers, the rookie from Iowa. Because she made up

(18:24):
a quarterback earlier and nade Caleb.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
I just thought that was a generic name.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
One thing I'm disappointed with that Monsey. She informed us
before the show that she saw Weapons this weekend. I did,
and weapons is, like, you know, was the rage for
a couple of weeks. It's everywhere on TikTok and Twitter.
And I don't think that you could see weapons and
not either love or hated it. In other words, there

(18:52):
really isn't a middle ground with that movie. It either
offends the senses or you love it and you didn't
include it. So are you in the middle ground here?

Speaker 8 (18:59):
I was to keep it sports related to the sports,
but I would tell you I really liked it, but
I love scary.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I wish it was scarier. I thought it was more
of a horror movie. It's not a horror movie. I don't.
I wouldn't say that was a horror movie.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
Psychological yeah, And I think it was advertised as a
horror movie.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
So I was disappointed on that sense of it. But
I really liked it. I wanted more. I wanted to
know where that lady came from.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Why does she have Did we just become a show
that you know what they're gonna talk about sports, but hey,
they're also gonna talk about pop colors.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
Do a.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Blend check on our new show. You know what, I
got a new show launching next week. It's gonna be
a little bit of this, a little bit. You know,
everybody's happy. I wish I had a weapon when you
guys talk about weapons. Because Jason has sent me like
four or five tiktoks, I've told them I haven't watched
one of them because and I want my algorithm to

(19:57):
be filled with horror flicks.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
It's not horror like I I just want.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
People redoing their lawn and digging out enormous rocks from
those lawns. That's all that I want on TikTok. Guess what,
we found a huge boulder. Now we have to get
all of this equipment out out of the lawn. You
know what I hate? What I hate is when chain
restaurants failed to live up to their expectations. I'll tell
you what. I'll tell you who's having a twenty twenty five.

(20:22):
It is Chili's. Chilies is Yeah, Chilies is on the
bounce back. The Chilies is the place to be right now, right.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Just what they're Veggie burger phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
See, and I'm so mad that they took off the
original chicken crispers from their menu. But now everybody's like
all the mozzarella.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Oh yes, they're like this, like the size of my forehead. Chonky,
they're giant, and yeah they're delicious.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
My luggage got delayed from the flight back from the
Midwest to la on Saturday. There was another flight coming
in two hours later. We said, let's go grab something
to eat. We'll get my bags when they come in
on the flight. The chain restaurant that we went to atrocious.
It was awful. It was bad, doubled up yesterday. Nobody
wanted to cook. It was hot as you know what outside.

(21:07):
Let's just order a pizza. There's not a lot of
Mama popped pizza places around where I live, so you
gotta go with the chains. Went with a chain, completely awful.
No one was happy.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Damn it.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Shack.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, can restaurants be I didn't name the name. I
didn't name the name, but Nazi Yeah, yes, but I'll
tell you, just step up your game like Chili's did,
like it's about time.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yes, yes, I agree with you.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
I've gone to Chili's recently with a friend and I
was like, man, I hadn't been here in years.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Their chips and salsa was phenomenal. Like I was into it.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, they're on the comeback, all right, Chris Burffett, I'm.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
Gonna try to bring this back to sports best I can.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
All Right, Well, we talk about everything here.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Calin Debor is not seeing the light of heaven. He
will never see the light of heaven. And I think
a tarmac episode is absolutely If anyone lost the most
from this weekend, it might be Klin de Bor. There's
no patience in Alabama. And after watching that game, I
totally get it. That was listless. That was awful, and
yet somehow that's still not the thing I hated the

(22:11):
most because this is gonna keep happening as Alabama keeps
falling into being in nothing, which it was nothing between
Saban and Bear Bryant.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Here's a staff from again National Championship. But oh yeah,
sure sure.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Every one of Alabama's last eleven road losses featured a
field storming, and that's exactly what Florida State did. Stormed
the field. We're reaching like Michigan in the two thousands.
Level of this program is listless. You don't need to
storm them, but we're going to storm you anyway, because
you have been a thorn in our pajuxas for over

(22:48):
a decade and a half. Like this is not going
to be an enjoyable fall for Alabama. It's just going
to be annoying.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I think that we will come to appreciate Nick Saban's
legacy in tuscal Loose some more and more and just
how difficult it was and for him to dominate in
a conference that was the top conference in college football
for much of his tenure. It's going to be an
amazing run. And whoever fills killing to Bores shoes that's
going to try to fill Nick Saban's shoes is going

(23:16):
to have a tough time. It is a tough, tough
task for anybody not named Nick Saban. There it is
love and hate from our fawful skeptic Jason Stewart.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
She's mont choking for a second.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm good now, no good. I love that Moncei is
still alive during this show.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
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Speaker 6 (23:47):
Happy Labor Day. I am Monty Bolanos. He is Dan Byer.
We are in for the Doug Gottlieb Show. Hope you're
maybe enjoying some food right now, a cocktail.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Or traveling back or traveling back.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
I guess that's probably more likely what people are doing.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yes, since it's already Monday.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I think that if you're celebrating Labor Day, the bonus
is the Sunday afternoon and Sunday nights, sure, and then
maybe a Monday morning. But by noon on Monday, it's
probably over. Oh I just got an email.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Oh it's exciting.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I think it's probably over saying traffic is slow on
the five. So for those traveling there you go.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
Yes, Well, this weekend a lot of college football, Dan,
as we've been chatting about. There was one game that
I think I am saying things that nobody else is saying.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
We had Notre Dame in Miami.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Carson Beck, Georgia, former Georgia quarterback transfers out, goes to Miami,
taking on Notre Dame and also blanking on the Irish's quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Car thank you, CJ. Car was like it's an easy
one too. CJ.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Carr and Notre Dame loses this game, and I feel
like all I'm wondering is where is the overreaction? Because
we love to overreact, that's all we've been doing this
entire weekend.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Where is the overreaction on Carson Beck.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Reaction?

Speaker 4 (25:19):
There is no reaction.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
When in reality, Carson Beck was a guy that got
her and after he left Georgia, people thought George's success
happened in spite of Carson Beck.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
It happened not because of him, It's just because of
everybody else around him. Then he goes to Miami data.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
Cavender twin for a hot second, and then there's a
story connected of Nico Imliava. I think I said his
name wrong, but it's hard that he also ends up
going leaving Tennessee, going to UCLA because he wants as
much money as Carson Beck is getting anil in Miami.
Carson Beck delivers for his first game for the Hurricanes.

(26:01):
Nikolay mal Yaba does not deliver for Ucla. We see
a lot of quarterbacks that did not deliver in week one,
and here is Carson Beck, who people put off to
the side.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, I wonder if it's more of like a you
did what you were supposed to do sort of thing
with Carson Beck. I don't know if that's the reason
I think that the mark was completely missing on this game.
I love this game because of that storyline. I love
this game because it was six versus ten. It's why
I love preseason rankings for some reason. Manzi, the only
thing that was shoved down our throat was a rivalry

(26:33):
that happened thirty five plus years ago. Like this is like,
that's what I felt missed The mark last night on
Notre Dame Miami is Yeah, I remember those games. I
remember Catholics versus Convicts T shirts. I remember all of those.
You weren't even born yet.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
No, Like there was a sizable amount of the audience
that was watching last night's game that has no recollection
of what happened thirty five years ago. That's what I
felt fell flat last night was how about taking this
game and hyping it up because of Carson, because of
the new Miami Hurricanes who are paying a lot of

(27:10):
players a lot of money and guess what they come
through in the clutch. How about Notre Dame off of
a season where you made it to the National Championship game.
How about that hyping it up? I felt that it
was we lived in the past, the commercial breaks. This
is not meant to be a shot at ESPN and
ABC who had the game last night, but it was

(27:31):
a representative of a weird angle to take on this
game for something that was thirty five years ago. When
you have a quarterback in Carson back to your point,
that looked like he was capable of throwing the football,
which you didn't see tons of in Week one of
the college football season.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Absolutely, and you have storylines right now.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
That's interesting that they took that angle because yeah, that
didn't mean anything to me, you know, the rivalry of
a time when I wasn't around. That was an interesting
side to take to promote that when you had storylines
right in front of your face, yes, that were.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Current and in a bigger picture, Manzi, the right team
won in this. And I'm not a Miami fan and
I'm not anti Notre Dame, but in how we look
at the ACC as a dwindling conference, as a conference
that's in the shadow of the Big Ten in the SEC.
You have a weekend where yeah, Clemson lost to LSU,

(28:28):
but you have Florida State beating Alabama, huge, huge win,
and now Miami as the ACC representative, even though Notre
Dame plays multiple members of the ACC as part of
their scheduling agreement with the league. You have Miami winning it,
which now vaults them higher up. I think that aspect

(28:50):
of it was completely overshadowed because we kept on talking
about what happened in nineteen eighty eight, in nineteen eighty nine,
and listen, I love to reminis, I love to go
on the way back machine, but I did not feel
that that fit what last night's game was about. It's
about Notre Dame today and Marcus Freeman. Doug even tweeted,
He's like, Marcus Freeman's a hard dude to root against. Yeah,

(29:10):
you want to root for him. And I think that's
positive for the Notre Dame, for the future of Notre Dame.
And I think from what we've seen with Miami and
bringing in cam Ward paying him what they did, now
bringing in Carson Beck paying him what they did, this
is the new Miami. This is Mario Christobal, why he
left Oregon. There were so many things to talk about,
aside from living in the past, from thirty five years ago,

(29:31):
and I think we missed the mark.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah, No, and we didn't. They did.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
Yes, they absolutely missed the mark because there's you kept
adding storylines aside from the big ones. There was so
much depth to it that why did you need to
dive back into history?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, and it was a good game. It ended up
being a competitive game, more even exciting than the Ohio.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
State Texas absolute because there was actual scoring.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
And this is again why you need numbers in front
of teams. This is why preseason rankings are so important,
is because if it was just Notre Dame Miami, there
wo'd be even more reason to look back to nineteen
eighty eight, nineteen eighty nine. Instead, this way around, we're
talking about this season. Doesn't matter whether Notre Dame or
Miami is worthy of their preseason ranking at the end

(30:14):
of the season. And I think now with the twelve
team playoff and how the committee will set up, people
say preseason rankings are point less. That's fine, go ahead
and think that. But all of these games, and that's
why Texas and Ohio State was at the level as
it was. If it was just Texas and Ohio State, yeah,
it'd be a great game, but to have the one
versus two or the one versus three makes all the
difference in the world.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
I'm rooting for Carson Beck.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
You are, I am. You're one of eight. Yeah, I know,
you one of eight outside of Miami.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
I think he was so criticized for so long and
people just thought that Miami was doing this stupid decision.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I don't bring him in. I don't want to comment
on Carson Beck, but he's got a sleeve tattoo, so
it feels like that he like opens it up. Yeah.
He I think Carson back reminds me of that record
producer from Denmark that you didn't know was behind all
those hits. Like when you see a picture of Carson Beck,
you're like, oh, that's Carson Beck. Like you're like, oh,

(31:07):
h'es behind all of these bangers and all of these hits. Yeah,
Then when I see Carson Beck, that's what I think.

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Speaker 2 (31:55):
We're going to get a football game on Thursday that counts. Yeah,
Cowboys and Eagles. The last game that counted was Super
Bowl fifty nine, which again is on the NFL Network
being replayed right now.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Look at that score.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
It's forty to twenty two as the Eagles will now
take a bunch of knees. That's my prediction of this
game that's being on. I know you've got bones on
this TV. Like for some reason, this one TV is
stayed on we TV for the entire show time. But
we've got an NFL Network game here where the Eagles
are about to win Super Bowl fifty nine. And Manzi

(32:29):
because the final score was forty to twenty two. Again,
like I remember the Eagles dominating, Oh yeah, but like
to have it be thirty four to nothing and I
was in the dome like that's flex. Yeah, it's crazy
to think that that's how dominant of her performance it was.
It was worse than we even remember.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
It was so bad. It was so bad.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Now, Dan, weren't you spending most of the second half
of this game not thinking that Kendrick Lamar performance was
a big deal?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
That's here. It was different. But again, those performances are
made for TV, so when you're actually at the stadium,
it's not directly meant for you, right, But it did
go on and on for the days after.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
We talked about it for a while.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Yes, after it happened, people were still trying a week later,
I think we were still talking about that.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
It was.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
It truly was, and I think it's one that we
will remember for a while because of because of that,
just because of the not like us performance, not like us,
you know, is he really gonna? Is he really about
to do it? Like that was in my head for weeks.
All right, we are doing our NFL preview question game
where Manzi put three questions in. I put three questions in.

(33:40):
Jason Stewart and Chris Purfett. Well, we have twelve questions
in a hat, and we're drawing out questions to preview
the NFL season. Jason Stewart, the the helmet of questions
is next to you. Why don't you pull out one
of the questions you were Chris and answer it as
we preview this NFL's season. I had won about second

(34:01):
year quarterbacks. You had want about the Chiefs maybe taking
a step back after the Super Bowl loss? Jason, what
is your question? This one reads Dear Jason, who was
the first head coach fired this season? Ooh, I love
the I love the nature of this question.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
I do, too, love the nature of this.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Mike mcga could give you some odds if you'd like.
Oh please, Mike McDaniel of the Dolphins two to one
right now, Brian Dabele of the Giants four to one,
Shane Steichen of the Colts seven to one, while Kevin
Stefanski of the Browns and the Panthers Dave Canalis at
fifteen to two. According to bet online.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
I'm going to pick Shane Stikeen. I like that new ownership,
not necessarily it's in the family, but new people in charge.
And it's a wonky situation with the quarterbacks. Let's start fresh.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
If they lose to the Dolphins, that would give McDaniel
a head start in week one and really put stich
in behind the apol.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
I think McDaniel is in the hot seat Mike the most,
even more than Shane Steichen. To be honest, Meg McDaniel
has has had this, these weapons and this receiver in
this quarterback and then and then, and it's.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Why he's two to one right now, the most likely
right now.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
It makes perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yes, a great question. Whoever wrote that one? Oh, let's
go to Chris Purfett. I think I wrote that. All Right,
here we go. All right, you've got.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
Chris this opening up here. Okay, you're dating Julia Roberts.
Will a team score sixty points or more in a
game this season?

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Do you think? I don't? I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
I think defenses have kind of slowly been inching up
a little bit. We do get some pretty well earned
blowouts here and there, but it just it feels it.
It feels like in general, what happens, we get laid
into a game where there is a blowout, teams start
playing a lot more of their depth because we have
guys get less and less experience in the backups, and

(36:03):
that's so important when we get to you know, to uh.
I think the biggest blowut we had last year was
really that Lions and Cowboys game, and that was really
the Lions taking revenge on the Cowboys because of the
two point conversion run.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
And we aren't We are less than two years removed
from a seventy burger being delivered by the Dolphins to
the Broncos seventy to twenty. That was a very broken team. Yes, yes,
I just think how bad some of the defenses are
with Dallas or Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
Cincinnati, like you could, I it would not surprise me
to see a team reach sixty.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
When the Lions twice got to fifty last year.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I think so as well. Yeah, I think that. I
think that that you could see it. I mean the
seventy again, it's just so absurd. Maybe it would provide
us with score a gami, score a gami. By the way,
that was also my question. So two of my questions
have been picked. Everybody wants a little Yes, hey, Dunk
Show's over, but we're not going there. She's mons Blanos,
I'm in Buyer. We aren't going anywhere. That's what I meant.

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