February 1, 2022 • 38 mins
Doug reacts to the news that Jerry West is upset with the Lakers after they revoked his lifetime tickets to their games. Doug has thoughts on what new Raiders head coach Josh McDaniels said at his press conference about what he has learned since his last head coaching job. Brian Flores is reportedly filing a lawsuit against the NFL for their hiring practices, and the story has layers and layers of intrigue. Basketball analyst for Stadium Sports Jeff Goodman joins Doug to talk about the intense drama that is taking place behind the scenes of the Texas v Texas Tech game Tuesday night. Plus, Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's and Colin Cowherd's thoughts on Tom Brady as he has announced his retirement.
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Tug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. M M. You know,
this is a great question I have for you. Can
you go home again? It's a great question. Um. I'll
get to josh Vian Daniels in a second, but we're
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gonna be joined by Jeff Goodman up coming in about
twenty five minutes. I'm in Lubbock, UH and for Compass
Media Networks, I'm gonna call the Texas Texas Tech game.
It is an unbelievable game just for college basketball in
need of this sort of energy and excitement. Chris Beard
was the head coach at Texas Tech. Um he took
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them to the brink of a national championship. You know,
had the ball, a chance to win the game and
lost in overtime to Virginia in the National Championship and um,
you know, a couple of years removed. He ends up
leaving Texas Tech for his album Mater Texas, and obviously
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this is the first game where he comes back to Lubbock.
People aren't happy. A crazy scene last night after the practice,
people following the bus, police escort, YadA, YadA. It's gonna
be a zoo tonight. It's always interesting on on what
happens when you work for a coach arrival. Now. Look,
I've told people for years that the one of the
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unspoken negatives of transferring, especially late in your college career,
is you know, you transferred to a new school, it's
for just your senior year. Your old school is not
inviting you back for alumni activities. You're just not If
you grad, you have a year left to play and
you grad transferred to a school at a higher level
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with a bigger profile. Those guys you left behind, they
know you left him behind, and they're not going to
be happy about it. The school is not gonna be
happy about it. The same is true obviously here. Did
you guys see this Jerry West article in Bleacher Report
where he sat down with Sam Amock and, uh, Jason,
you and I were kind of discussing this via text.
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But but basically he was like, look, they took my
my year yearly Laker tickets away. I'm done with them.
He wants nothing to do with the Lakers franchise and
says they're like their relationship is so bad it's not
even reparable. And now part of me does understand the Lakers, like, look,
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you're working for the Clippers. The Clippers are the one
organization in in the sport who they wake up every
morning with two you know, you wake up with two
plans one how do we win into how we how
can we be better than the Lakers? Right, so you're
you're you're you're plotting with the enemy for the demise
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of the Lakers. But he is arguably the greatest Laker
of all time. Are the Lakers wrong for pulling back
their season tickets? Let's ask Dan Buyer. Since he's a
season ticket guy, he's got him to all the different
games courtside if you ever want to see him, Like
next to Rihanna shows up, she's pregnant. Now she's like,
what's up, Dan Buyer? Anyway, what do you think of
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Jerry West having his season tickets pulled? Um? Hi? Yeah,
I don't know, Maybe you have to have a little
thicker skin. I mean, who Jerry or the Lakers are
the Lakers, So I mean I I don't for everything
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that he did with the organization and for the organization, um,
not only as a player, but as an executive. If
they're you know, things that you don't like or things
that happened. I mean sometimes you lot bygones, be bygones. Um. Okay,
what about you there, Jason Stewart, what do you think
about the Lakers pulling his tickets? Yeah? And I don't
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think um. And I know that Jerry has put up
by having the tickets revoked that I think he mentioned
in that article were promised to him like lifetime by
Dr Buss Dr Bus no aga with this's obviously, and
if they revoked his ticket, he also has an issue
with the way they did it, which was kind of
I guess they just sent him his wife a text message. Um.
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And he's basically like, that's the way these Lakers do things. UM.
So I think there is kind of an etiquette and
how you handle these things, especially for the Lakers. And
you know how kind of sensitive if if we know
anything about Jerry West, like he wears his heart on
his sleeve. He'll always, you know, say what he thinks.
It's like you kind of have to know a little better.
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And so I'm kind of disappointing the Lakers or not
having that savvy or maybe they did it intentionally. I
don't know, but yeah, it's a weird story. Um. And
if one guy is gonna get tweaked and talk about it,
it's Jerry West right. Yes, Okay, So I've gotten to
know Jerry pretty well, um for the last ten years
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and the Laker thing, and it started with with Phil Jackson, right,
Phil and Jerry did not fill the nut want any
of Jerry's input. That's when he originally left. And of
course Phil was at the time engaged to Genie Bust.
Now he did make sure to say I thought I
always thought we had a good relationship with Genie Bust.
Maybe I don't. I don't know, maybe I don't, but
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it is interesting on how that that changed. And I
think a lot of it was was was the Genie
bus factor led by led by Phil Jackson. Um. I
do think you have to have a little thicker skin.
I also think though, for Jerry, he needs to understand,
like look, dude, I get you've always um um I
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I I get that you've always had these things, But
how does it look when you run that you helped
the Clippers, the and and like look he did to
call the Lakers and an S show and they're recruiting
Kawhi Leonard that leaked out and we're just gonna keep
giving you tickets. I wouldn't have pulled the tickets. I
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wouldn't have pulled the tickets. I wouldn't have done it.
I wouldn't have threatened to do it, but I would
have said, like, hey, Jerry, could you you know, to
lighting up, could you just be make sure it's not
personal when you're talking about the Lakers. You know, he's
still you still got our statue here, you still have
the name of the in the in the rafters. You're
still a huge part of it. This is just super
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super ugly. And and Jerry has if you've ever read
his book, his autobiography, like look, he battled through depression.
He was abused by his father, um, you know, physically
abused by his father. I mean, that guy has been
through some stuff and he can be rather emotional, but
I do think that that's his home, that's where he played.
He's the greatest front office guy in the history of
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the sport. I can't see away when you pull his tickets,
even if he's working for the Clippers. I can't see it.
All right, I want to get to this. Josh McDaniels
basically echoed what I've been talking about for weeks in
that when you're coaching, and this is no different when
you're leading your business. No matter what business you think
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you're in, we're all in the people business. And Josh
McDaniels was asked what's the difference between how he is
as a coach now and how he was back when
he coached with the Broncos. When I went to Denver,
I knew a little bit of football, I didn't really
know people, uh, And how important that aspect of this
process and maintaining the culture and building the team was
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and um and I and I failed and I didn't
you know, I didn't succeed at it. And so looking
at that experience has been one of the best uh things,
uh in my life in terms of my overall growth
as a as a person, as a coach. What do
I need to do different? How do I need to
handle my role if I have another opportunity, uh and
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do better at it. I love it. We're all in
the same business. We're all in the people business. And
I like this. I like that he said he failed
at Denver. You know so many coaches and we do this.
I'm sure you've done this in your own business, your
own life. If you've been fired before, is you start
making excuses about well this, what this would have happened,
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and that would have happened, then this, then I never
would have been fired, but it didn't. And you get
fired and you failed. It's okay. You know, we all
have to deal with failure. Tell me the guy who
didn't have to deal with failure. So I it doesn't
mean that Josh mcdanns is going to be a great
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head coach. It doesn't mean that Josh M. Daniels is gonna,
you know, run the NFC West and an f C
West and change how we look at Kansas City and
l A and UH Denver against him. But it does
mean that at least he's open to the idea that
he's got to get better. He wasn't great. He didn't
know everything. He doesn't know everything now, But what he
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does know is we're all in the same business, the
people business. Yes, generals. So why did he turn down
the Indianapolis Colts job. I wasn't at the press conference.
I don't know he accepted the job and then changed
his mind. Yeah, so I'm figuring. I'm figured he didn't
He didn't get it there either, then, No, I think supposedly,
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you know, we don't know what he was promised in
New England. We don't know. Remember that was also the
year that Andrew Luck retired after the last preseason game,
so we don't know what he knew about Andrew Luck.
We don't know. I mean, I've been told that it
was kind of a freak out over Jim Ursay and
Jimmer says constant desire to be involved. They had that
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problem now, they had it then, and that's why he
walked from it. I don't know. Otherwise, I don't know otherwise.
All right, coming up next, this is interesting, huh, really
really interesting. Apparently there's a text message from Bill Belichick
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that was intended to go to Brian day Ball but
instead went to Brian Flores. We'll tell you the contact
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this is a weird story, and apparently Brian Flores is
trying to file a class action lawsuit against the NFL
because of their hiring practices. Um his new lawyers tweeted
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out on the first day of Black History Month. Is
our great privilege to represent Brian Flores in his class
action complaint against the NFL. This case seeks to level
the playing field and the hope that future owners and
coaches will be representative of the athletes who are playing
the great game. We fully expect coaches and players of
all races suport. Brian is the arks on his journey
to create positive change. Brian Flores is never gonna be
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a head coach. Ever. Again, the the slash and burn
is unbelievable. Now, look, I I all I can tell
you is what I've seen is I thought he was
a pretty good coach. Clearly he didn't get along with
Chris Greer. Now, just so we're aware, Chris Greer is black. Okay,
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he worked for it. Now his owner was not. But
the owner chose the general manager who had worked with
longer than the head coach, and by all accounts, by
all accounts, uh, there were enough people in that organization
that had a similar feeling in terms of they're dealing
with Brian Flores. But the burn it down is that
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is not that is at first it makes no sense,
makes no sense. And he's using a text where Bill
Belichick mistakenly texted him instead of texting Brian Dable as like, look,
I was only being brought in for the Rooney rule.
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Let's keep in mind Brian Flores already interviewed for the
Jacksonville Jaguars job as well as the Houston Texans job.
So I, it's amazing. So here's the text exchange, buyer,
you want to be Bill Belichick or do you want
to be um? Uh? Brian? I can be Uh. I
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could be Bill Belichick. Okay, I'll be I'll be Brian Flores.
Go okay, hold on, I kind of get the text
messages up because there's a lot of details in this,
in this uh, in this whole thing. So I didn't
realize that we were role playing. Uh here, So all
right here we go. Uh, sounds like you have landed. Congrats.
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Did you hear something I didn't hear Giants I interview
on Thursday. I think I have a shot at it.
Got it. I hear from Buffalo and the Giants that
you are their guy. Hope it works out if you
wanted to. That's definitely what I want. I hope you're right, coach.
Thank you, Coach. Are you talking to Brian Flores or
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Brian dayble just making sure? Sorry I bleep this up.
I double checked and I misread the text. I think
they're naming Dable. Sorry about that, BB. Thanks Bill, but
if you notice, Uh yeah, I mean he thank you
very much. It was a couple hours later, by the way,
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like he left him on red and then got back
to him. So, so Flores is Flora's take is going
to be Well, they already knew it was gonna be
Brian Dable. They just brought me in, you know, so
they fit the Rooney rule. Uh. By the way, I
actually believe that. Hunt go ahead. I was gonna say
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that there's other stuff in addition to this that is
damning to one organization as well. Well. He said that
he said that, um, Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins,
offered to pay him a hundred thousand dollars a loss
in order to tank. Now that was this first year, correct,
that was before they drafted. Right, that's what they're which
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we all thought they were tanking, and they were tanking
for Tua. Correct, that is damning. Is damning. Now he
does not have any proof of that. Right, Unless he
has proof of that, it is hearsay. And but the
idea of losing with the intention of you know, losing
with the intention of losing is not a we talked about.
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Everybody talked about. Everybody knew they were taking. I knew
they were taking. But again, does any of this prove
racism is a part of hiring practice. What it will
do is it will probably make sure that Jacksonville and
that Houston, Okay, they hire black coaches. But I would
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guess for blind Flores this is at least in the
short term. Noway's hiring you to the NFL. Good luck
to you, Good luck to you. Had a job for
three years, interviewed um interviewed for several jobs. File us
for a couple of jobs. And this is what you
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do as a knee jerk. Reaction because you're mad. And
of course Brian Tables, the guy they hired. The assistant
GM guys bring with them people they've worked with previously,
and it it all makes sense. Flora's I believe was
somebody the owner, John Merrill wanted to take a look
at it. And just because you have somebody you want
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to hire doesn't mean that you don't want to at
least talk to Brian Flores and get his perspective on things.
So I my my take is, and look, I I
understand that when you looked at the numbers of who
is getting jobs like in this most recent cycle, it
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hasn't been nearly as good as it should be. It
has been nearly as good as it should be. But
we should also point out that two black gms have
just been hired. Theres nosed numbers can continue to grow.
And by the way, there are two guys from very
different background. Ryan Pulls, a former player who after he
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got out of plane, got right into the front office
and had a minimal paying job and worked his way up.
The other one, uh by or help me on how
I pronounced his name from Minnesota? Uh the new GM,
I don't I don't have it in front of me. Sorry,
I'm trying to go through quasi Adopho Mensa, who is
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by all accounts an absolutely brilliant dude. Right, he was
doing derivatives and then he started working in the Niners,
in with the Niners front office, did some cap stuff,
did some analytics work and whatever. Um quasi quasi excuse
me a Dopho Mensa? And who does he hire? Like
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right now, is he going to hire uh Damiko Ryan's
from San Francisco? Or is he gonna hire Jim Harball
who he worked with when he was in San Francisco.
That's what the two finalists for. But just saying it's
racist when there's no what is he talking about? The
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tanking one is probably the most damning thing the Texan
Bill Belichick like, well, what do you expect to have
happened when they hire the GM from Buffalo and Brian
Dable as the quarterback whisperer and Josh Allen looks completely
different the last two years than he looked previously. Of
course he's gonna get a job. Why shouldn't you get
a job? Stuck got show here on Fox Sports Radio,
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Jeff Goodman joins us and uh Jeff is uh. He
works for Stadium Sports. He is where I am, or
he's across the street from where I am. Texas Tech
take it on Texas tonight. Chris Beard, who was the
head coach at Texas Tech took them to the National
championship game, is now the head coach at Texas And goodman,
you you posted some videos on social media last night.
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What was it like? Remember this is a college basketball
team's practice, the night before a kind of innocuous Big
twelve game, midweek Big twelve game. What was the crowd
outside the arena at practice? Like? Like, these students are insane.
I mean, they hate Chris Bear. They hate him, and
you know, they try to tell me it's it's not
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just that he left Texas Tech for Texas, the in
state rival, the school that you know, obviously everybody gets
probably more credit to than maybe they deserve, based on
what they've done in both basketball and football over the years.
But they can't stand this guy. And they say it's
it's how he laughed, And I can't pinpoint. They can't
really give me a good reason how he laughed. Well,
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he said he was home here in Lubbock. Bottom line
is Listen, he left because he thought Kevin Durant went
to Texas. Kevin Durant was never coming to Texas Tech, Doug.
They can get elite level players to Texas. I know again,
they haven't, you know, one a national title. They got
the resources. He went to school there, and tonight is
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gonna be absolute bed. Look. I mean when they when
he left out of the bus. You saw the video,
It's thousands of students lining up, yelling profanities, chasing down
kind of his boss. They didn't do anything to it,
but they could see him in the front seat and
they're flipping him off and they're yelling you know what
at them. They despised Chris Beard. I've never seen anything
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like it where it flipped so quickly from a love
to a hate relationship. Yeah. So so help help help
me out. Um, have you been like, what's the what's
the most vicious environment you've been in covering college basketball?
I mean probably Louisville, Kentucky, Right, I mean, like people
say Carolina, dude, but that's not a vicious crowd. I
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mean they don't they don't like each other. But Louisville, Kentucky,
especially when kal and Patino absolutely hated each other, and
they would go through verbal sparring sessions like Cal would
say something that I would just call Patino and eggumon
and he would just come back with something one up
in Cal and the fans just absolutely hate each other there.
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So I would say, you know, Kentucky Louisville ten years
ago was elite level. But I'm telling you tonight, I'm scared.
I am scared for Crispy Ard, especially if Texas wins
this game and he walks off the courts. I'm telling
you they've got extra security that they're gonna have thirty
cops in the in the arena, They've got game up
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in front of the students sections. I still don't think
it's gonna be enough. You don't think gates are gonna
be enough. The comb rde over him done. I mean,
you're old. You couldn't have got over these gates. But
these kids are, they're they're agile, they're young. I think
they can get over their agile. They're young, and I'm old. Geez,
what what I put fends like this? I don't, I
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don't I don't need I don't need enemies. Uh. Jeff,
Jeff Good lunch. You did pick a lot of lunch.
I appreciate. I appreciated it. I truly truly do. Okay, Um,
why isn't Texas better? Well, I mean, you had seven
new guys, of which none of which are NBA players,
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and and it's really a group if you look at
it does not one player on this team other than
Christian Bishop has won an n C double a tournament.
You've taken a bunch of them. I talked to him
about this before the season. They're players. They know the
kind of storyline, which is not you guys have wanted anything.
Throw you together under an elite level coach, in my opinion,
and coach Beard. Now, Beard and the staff will say
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like they've come a long way. Now they're a lot
further along, which makes sense because you're not only throwing
seven new guys, you're taking three holdovers that you never
coached in a new spot. Right You're you're not It's
not like Texas Tech. Even if you're bringing in six
or seven new players, you're keeping a few holdovers. The
culture is already there. Well, Beard's got to kind of
build that culture right now. Um, with with everything being new,
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everything Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Jeff Goodman from from Stadium Sports. Um, okay,
who's the best team in the country. Listen, if you're
telling me right now I have to put my house
on the line for one team to win the whole thing.
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I'm going Gonzaga. But I'll tell you what Kentucky think
about this. Like, I know, they didn't be Daubernabern right.
It was. It was a close game, but they were
right there. They were without Ty Shington, They're only lottery pick.
They were without him for thirty minutes. They were without
Severe Wheeler. There are other point guard, their starting point
guard in a huge four minute stretch and when the
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score went from like one to ten, they were down.
I think Kentucky, honestly, you know what it is, Doug.
I always look at it a point guard play, and
almost every team of the last ten years has had
two guys that can run the point. That that's one
at all. Well, who else other than Kentucky right now
has two high level guys that you trust when the
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you know, run the point. So I think Kentucky's in there,
But I still go Gonzaga with them hard as long
as Nolan Hickman can keep coming, like like, he's got
to get better, but you've got You've got chat. Defensively,
he's gonna be much better than what last time we
saw him on the national stage. Timmy's the most probably proven,
accomplished college player in the country. Great coach in mark views,
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So I would go to Gonzaga or Kentucky. Um, okay,
I'm I'm I'm with you. I've seen Kentucky in person
and they're incredibly in terribly impressive. Um. If there was
a draft today and you do what you do draft previews,
do your own mock you talked to everybody in the league,
who would be the number one overall pick. I think
it's Jabari and Jabari Smith. And I don't even know
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if it's that close today. I just think, what is
everybody wanting the league right now? Right? Versatile winks, versatile forwards.
That's kind of the thing right now. And you know
they're worried about Chet's body. Can he put on five
or thirty pounds? Is he gonna hold up? You know,
you look at him, especially in person, and you're like, whoa, Um,
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I love Paolo, but I think Jabari has shown that again,
he's he's an elite level shooter at a similar heights
as Polo Um. He could put on probably pounds and
when he does, he can be He'll be a really
good rebounder. He can do everything. I mean, you can
handle it. He can take a coast to coast. He's
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he's smart, high i Q player, he play, he's hard,
he's a great teammate. There's no holes in his game.
So I just I think with the way the game
is going, I don't know how you pass on Jabari Smith.
I tend to I tend to agree with you. Okay,
so um, you do understand, like what you're wearing is important.
You're going to Texas Tech and Texas and Texas. What
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color of clothing are you wearing tonight? I'm not dumb.
I'm wearing I'm wearing blue. I got I got like, uh,
I think I got like a maybe a pink shirt
or something like that with a blue sport coat and
blue jeans. I'm not dumb. I'm not going black. I'm
not gonna red like I'm I'm I'm very calculated. How
I pulled this one off a good good enough that
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that's very sutral, you know, you gotta be neutral. But
the color is actually the colors of your clothing actually matter.
That's actually, that's actually a real I used to get killed.
I used to get because I'm more of a blue
guy anyway. And I go to like Carolina Duke and
I'd have the like Roy Williams blue and I go
to Durham and they would crush me for it, like
wearing Carolina blow. So once they did that, I started
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being a little bit more aware of what I wore
to each game, just to be smart. But listen to
a you gotta get out there before the game. You
gotta get out and I know, you know you're you're
a little above this, but you've gotta mingle with those
those tech pans. But what you're talking about, I don't
mind me. I don't mind. They're more much more my
people than they are your people. You know, Mr Massachusetts,
that's a good point, good point. But I'm I'm drinking
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with him before the game. So you get out there,
have a beer. Yeah, you gotta have a shiner buck
maybe maybe, why not? Do you know what shiner buck is? Yeah,
some sort of beer. It's a Texas beer. Do you
know why people drink shiner as opposed to drinking the
domestic beers. I do not in certain states, like I
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know in Oklahoma, your beer can only be at three
point two except for Shiner Buck because it's important. Yeah,
I mean I feel the handle sounder box. That's what
you tracked on. It's pretty soft. You're pretty soft. I am.
I am kind of soft. I'm soft enough to leave
two and a half feet of snow and come to
love it and then go to Tucson tomorrow. Very smart, say,
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there's there's a fine line between soft and smart with
that decision. You're making this smart decision. He's you have
good man, good. You'll see you over the game. Thanks
for joining us. You got a duke? Alright, Stug Gotlip
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This is Dan Patrick talking about Tom Brady. I'm old
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their careers with teams other than the ones that you
know they you know, earned their Hall of Fame bust with.
And you just watched him and you just you didn't
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want to see that where you go, oh my gosh,
I'm gonna end with the Rams, gonna end with the Chargers.
It's just, um, he played at a really high level.
I mean, the bar has said so high. You know,
we keep we want Patrick Mahomes maybe to be the
Goaden waiting here. You know, it's a dynasty of one
right now, Brady, you can't ask for anything more. Guys
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who play well and play well in big moments, games
on the line, and to have that moment against the
Rams as your final game, down three, you come back,
you tie it. He scared the hell out of the Rams.
He just ran out of time. This is Colin Carhart
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on Tom Brady. He is the most productive and influential
player in the history of the National Football League. Don't
waste my time arguing he's not. He leaves dynamically with
a sense of timing, not shocking at all. He will
not go into broadcasting. He owns multiple companies. He will
no longer be an employee. Roger Staubach, John Elway and
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Tom Brady all had something magnificent in common. They left
with a lot left timing matters. I wish more people
understood it. Michael Jordan's to the Wizards, Joe Namath to
the Rams, of Lord Ben limping off into the sunset.
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It doesn't have to be that way. When I look
at Brady, it is such a refined, prepared way to leave.
He controlled his ending, just like he controlled the NFL
for twenty two years. And it's not a coincidence that
the most meticulously prepared, the most overwhelmingly detailed, the most
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driven and focused professional athlete of my life left completely
utterly on his terms in great shape at an m
v P level. Hmm, it's interesting. Um, I agree with
both of them. You know, Dan Patrick's one of one.
And and how Tom Brady left like he left, he
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left walking out. No one does that. They don't do that.
And we could say John Elway left as a champion
in and paid Manning left to the champion. They did,
but their production was so far down from what it
had previously been. Brady walks away with gas still in
the tank. You know, gas still in the tank. He
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didn't completely empty it. That's even more impressive what he's
done in terms of taking care of his body, taking
less money, and just generally being a winner. Those are
the things that resonate. And the one eighty of how
we view him after he left to England is not
an accident. I think that's part of why he chose
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to do what he did, and it was mission accomplished.
And you know what, he also because he has something
left in the tank. I think he probably earned some
bonus points at home. Let's just be honest, right, that's
it's about. It's about to keep mama happy and her
knowing that he could still play, and he still walked away.
I think that makes it more palatable that he probably
played a couple of years too long for her taste. Right,
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Giselle wanted him to stop playing a long time ago.
Let's like, let's not kid ourselves. That's why she was
the one who said that he had had a bunch
of concussions that hadn't reported it, right, she wanted to
stop playing a long time ago. But Brady walking away
while he still could play, I think has to earn
him something in terms of some points at home. And
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that's what the Fox I want to get into this lawsuit.
I want to have an open discussion about it, you know,
because I think one of the things that we're doing is,
you know, we're labeling everything racism, and I just it
gets really I'm not gonna sit here and tell you
racism doesn't exist, and I'm not going to tell you
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that there wasn't you know, there wasn't a long, uh
storyline going back forty years ago of of the black
quarterback not being as well regarded in terms of their
ability to be an NFL quarterback. But I have to
tell you, I just think this is an awful look
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for for Brian Flores. Look Brian Flores This is the
god's honest truth. He got hired before the nineteen season,
Is that right? Um? Dan Buyer wasn't It was that right? Okay?
So the year before the year before it was two
thousand eighteen, Um, he had not yet been I don't
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believe the full time defensive coordinator of the Newham Patriots.
He was a linebackers coach. And I know a couple
of teams that brought him in that year, And I
believe one of the reasons he was brought in because,
like he was a young, well regarded guy in his
thirties in New England. People liked him. And I had
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a GM tell me the year before not hiring him,
but man, he's gonna go. He's gonna be a good
head coach somewhere. He just he's got whatever the it
is organization, his personal discipline, his leadership capabilities, his knowledge
of the NFL game. Like he's going to be a dude.
And if somebody wants to spend the time and search
through my hundreds of thousands of tweets, you can see that.
(35:10):
You can find that again, that's Brian Floord is gonna
be a head I put Brian Flord's gonna be head
coached in six months. And that was right when the
seat that season started and he was the he was
the defensive queen. I don't even know if he was
the defensive coordinat I think he was still the linebackers coach.
I think eighteen nineteen he was. He was the defensive coordinator.
So for one years or defensive coordinator, and early on
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that season I tweeted out, it's gonna be a head coach,
and he was. But that's what the Rooney Rule is
intended to for, to give you voices outside of the
ones that you expect. And the perfect example is the
New York Giants. The Giants had once they decided on
a GM, it was a GM that was going along
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with the coach they were. It was a package deal.
And while it may not feel good, it's also you know, like,
how does he know that they had decided on Dable? Dable?
Being the favorite is not every every game you go
in somebody's a favorite. That doesn't mean it doesn't change
every interview goes in. You being the favorite doesn't mean
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it doesn't change. But but the assumption of racism is
so it is so so divisive, so divisive. You know,
it's like the Denver thing, where part of the accusations
are that you know, he's he he does not believe
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he got a um, he does not believe he got
a fair strike or fair shake at being the at
being the Broncos head coach that they they were already
going to hire Vic Fangio? Did does anybody like, Here's
what I want you to realize, was did Vic Fangio?
And I know, I mean, I know some of why.
Vic Fangio started coaching in the nash A Football League
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in night four. He got his first head coaching job
in two thousand nineteen. He'd been he'd been in the
league for twenty five thirty five years before he got
his shot, and is a very well regarded defensive coordinator.
So the point is these jobs are hard to get,
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hard to get, and Florence had one and still might
get another one. I don't think so. I think this
is a really tough pill to swallow, right, Like, man,
we're gonna this guy is calling our whole league racists
when you're interviewing for all these different jobs. Do we
hire him? Oh? All right? Coming up next, we'll say
(37:47):
goodbye to Tom Brady. When I say Tom Brady ten
years from now, what are you gonna think? And the
one part of the the last Tom Brady we've seen
that will resonate most to me, that's the accident Doug
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this is a great question I have for you. Can
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gonna be joined by Jeff Goodman up coming in about
twenty five minutes. I'm in Lubbock, UH and for Compass
Media Networks, I'm gonna call the Texas Texas Tech game.
It is an unbelievable game just for college basketball in
need of this sort of energy and excitement. Chris Beard
was the head coach at Texas Tech. Um he took
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them to the brink of a national championship. You know,
had the ball, a chance to win the game and
lost in overtime to Virginia in the National Championship and um,
you know, a couple of years removed. He ends up
leaving Texas Tech for his album Mater Texas, and obviously
(01:28):
this is the first game where he comes back to Lubbock.
People aren't happy. A crazy scene last night after the practice,
people following the bus, police escort, YadA, YadA. It's gonna
be a zoo tonight. It's always interesting on on what
happens when you work for a coach arrival. Now. Look,
I've told people for years that the one of the
(01:54):
unspoken negatives of transferring, especially late in your college career,
is you know, you transferred to a new school, it's
for just your senior year. Your old school is not
inviting you back for alumni activities. You're just not If
you grad, you have a year left to play and
you grad transferred to a school at a higher level
(02:15):
with a bigger profile. Those guys you left behind, they
know you left him behind, and they're not going to
be happy about it. The school is not gonna be
happy about it. The same is true obviously here. Did
you guys see this Jerry West article in Bleacher Report
where he sat down with Sam Amock and, uh, Jason,
you and I were kind of discussing this via text.
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But but basically he was like, look, they took my
my year yearly Laker tickets away. I'm done with them.
He wants nothing to do with the Lakers franchise and
says they're like their relationship is so bad it's not
even reparable. And now part of me does understand the Lakers, like, look,
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you're working for the Clippers. The Clippers are the one
organization in in the sport who they wake up every
morning with two you know, you wake up with two
plans one how do we win into how we how
can we be better than the Lakers? Right, so you're
you're you're you're plotting with the enemy for the demise
(03:27):
of the Lakers. But he is arguably the greatest Laker
of all time. Are the Lakers wrong for pulling back
their season tickets? Let's ask Dan Buyer. Since he's a
season ticket guy, he's got him to all the different
games courtside if you ever want to see him, Like
next to Rihanna shows up, she's pregnant. Now she's like,
what's up, Dan Buyer? Anyway, what do you think of
(03:50):
Jerry West having his season tickets pulled? Um? Hi? Yeah,
I don't know, Maybe you have to have a little
thicker skin. I mean, who Jerry or the Lakers are
the Lakers, So I mean I I don't for everything
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that he did with the organization and for the organization, um,
not only as a player, but as an executive. If
they're you know, things that you don't like or things
that happened. I mean sometimes you lot bygones, be bygones. Um. Okay,
what about you there, Jason Stewart, what do you think
about the Lakers pulling his tickets? Yeah? And I don't
(04:37):
think um. And I know that Jerry has put up
by having the tickets revoked that I think he mentioned
in that article were promised to him like lifetime by
Dr Buss Dr Bus no aga with this's obviously, and
if they revoked his ticket, he also has an issue
with the way they did it, which was kind of
I guess they just sent him his wife a text message. Um.
(04:59):
And he's basically like, that's the way these Lakers do things. UM.
So I think there is kind of an etiquette and
how you handle these things, especially for the Lakers. And
you know how kind of sensitive if if we know
anything about Jerry West, like he wears his heart on
his sleeve. He'll always, you know, say what he thinks.
It's like you kind of have to know a little better.
(05:20):
And so I'm kind of disappointing the Lakers or not
having that savvy or maybe they did it intentionally. I
don't know, but yeah, it's a weird story. Um. And
if one guy is gonna get tweaked and talk about it,
it's Jerry West right. Yes, Okay, So I've gotten to
know Jerry pretty well, um for the last ten years
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and the Laker thing, and it started with with Phil Jackson, right,
Phil and Jerry did not fill the nut want any
of Jerry's input. That's when he originally left. And of
course Phil was at the time engaged to Genie Bust.
Now he did make sure to say I thought I
always thought we had a good relationship with Genie Bust.
Maybe I don't. I don't know, maybe I don't, but
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it is interesting on how that that changed. And I
think a lot of it was was was the Genie
bus factor led by led by Phil Jackson. Um. I
do think you have to have a little thicker skin.
I also think though, for Jerry, he needs to understand,
like look, dude, I get you've always um um I
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I I get that you've always had these things, But
how does it look when you run that you helped
the Clippers, the and and like look he did to
call the Lakers and an S show and they're recruiting
Kawhi Leonard that leaked out and we're just gonna keep
giving you tickets. I wouldn't have pulled the tickets. I
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wouldn't have pulled the tickets. I wouldn't have done it.
I wouldn't have threatened to do it, but I would
have said, like, hey, Jerry, could you you know, to
lighting up, could you just be make sure it's not
personal when you're talking about the Lakers. You know, he's
still you still got our statue here, you still have
the name of the in the in the rafters. You're
still a huge part of it. This is just super
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super ugly. And and Jerry has if you've ever read
his book, his autobiography, like look, he battled through depression.
He was abused by his father, um, you know, physically
abused by his father. I mean, that guy has been
through some stuff and he can be rather emotional, but
I do think that that's his home, that's where he played.
He's the greatest front office guy in the history of
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the sport. I can't see away when you pull his tickets,
even if he's working for the Clippers. I can't see it.
All right, I want to get to this. Josh McDaniels
basically echoed what I've been talking about for weeks in
that when you're coaching, and this is no different when
you're leading your business. No matter what business you think
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you're in, we're all in the people business. And Josh
McDaniels was asked what's the difference between how he is
as a coach now and how he was back when
he coached with the Broncos. When I went to Denver,
I knew a little bit of football, I didn't really
know people, uh, And how important that aspect of this
process and maintaining the culture and building the team was
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and um and I and I failed and I didn't
you know, I didn't succeed at it. And so looking
at that experience has been one of the best uh things,
uh in my life in terms of my overall growth
as a as a person, as a coach. What do
I need to do different? How do I need to
handle my role if I have another opportunity, uh and
(08:42):
do better at it. I love it. We're all in
the same business. We're all in the people business. And
I like this. I like that he said he failed
at Denver. You know so many coaches and we do this.
I'm sure you've done this in your own business, your
own life. If you've been fired before, is you start
making excuses about well this, what this would have happened,
(09:02):
and that would have happened, then this, then I never
would have been fired, but it didn't. And you get
fired and you failed. It's okay. You know, we all
have to deal with failure. Tell me the guy who
didn't have to deal with failure. So I it doesn't
mean that Josh mcdanns is going to be a great
(09:24):
head coach. It doesn't mean that Josh M. Daniels is gonna,
you know, run the NFC West and an f C
West and change how we look at Kansas City and
l A and UH Denver against him. But it does
mean that at least he's open to the idea that
he's got to get better. He wasn't great. He didn't
know everything. He doesn't know everything now, But what he
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does know is we're all in the same business, the
people business. Yes, generals. So why did he turn down
the Indianapolis Colts job. I wasn't at the press conference.
I don't know he accepted the job and then changed
his mind. Yeah, so I'm figuring. I'm figured he didn't
He didn't get it there either, then, No, I think supposedly,
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you know, we don't know what he was promised in
New England. We don't know. Remember that was also the
year that Andrew Luck retired after the last preseason game,
so we don't know what he knew about Andrew Luck.
We don't know. I mean, I've been told that it
was kind of a freak out over Jim Ursay and
Jimmer says constant desire to be involved. They had that
(10:28):
problem now, they had it then, and that's why he
walked from it. I don't know. Otherwise, I don't know otherwise.
All right, coming up next, this is interesting, huh, really
really interesting. Apparently there's a text message from Bill Belichick
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that was intended to go to Brian day Ball but
instead went to Brian Flores. We'll tell you the contact
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(11:18):
this is a weird story, and apparently Brian Flores is
trying to file a class action lawsuit against the NFL
because of their hiring practices. Um his new lawyers tweeted
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out on the first day of Black History Month. Is
our great privilege to represent Brian Flores in his class
action complaint against the NFL. This case seeks to level
the playing field and the hope that future owners and
coaches will be representative of the athletes who are playing
the great game. We fully expect coaches and players of
all races suport. Brian is the arks on his journey
to create positive change. Brian Flores is never gonna be
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a head coach. Ever. Again, the the slash and burn
is unbelievable. Now, look, I I all I can tell
you is what I've seen is I thought he was
a pretty good coach. Clearly he didn't get along with
Chris Greer. Now, just so we're aware, Chris Greer is black. Okay,
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he worked for it. Now his owner was not. But
the owner chose the general manager who had worked with
longer than the head coach, and by all accounts, by
all accounts, uh, there were enough people in that organization
that had a similar feeling in terms of they're dealing
with Brian Flores. But the burn it down is that
(12:50):
is not that is at first it makes no sense,
makes no sense. And he's using a text where Bill
Belichick mistakenly texted him instead of texting Brian Dable as like, look,
I was only being brought in for the Rooney rule.
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Let's keep in mind Brian Flores already interviewed for the
Jacksonville Jaguars job as well as the Houston Texans job.
So I, it's amazing. So here's the text exchange, buyer,
you want to be Bill Belichick or do you want
to be um? Uh? Brian? I can be Uh. I
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could be Bill Belichick. Okay, I'll be I'll be Brian Flores.
Go okay, hold on, I kind of get the text
messages up because there's a lot of details in this,
in this uh, in this whole thing. So I didn't
realize that we were role playing. Uh here, So all
right here we go. Uh, sounds like you have landed. Congrats.
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Did you hear something I didn't hear Giants I interview
on Thursday. I think I have a shot at it.
Got it. I hear from Buffalo and the Giants that
you are their guy. Hope it works out if you
wanted to. That's definitely what I want. I hope you're right, coach.
Thank you, Coach. Are you talking to Brian Flores or
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Brian dayble just making sure? Sorry I bleep this up.
I double checked and I misread the text. I think
they're naming Dable. Sorry about that, BB. Thanks Bill, but
if you notice, Uh yeah, I mean he thank you
very much. It was a couple hours later, by the way,
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like he left him on red and then got back
to him. So, so Flores is Flora's take is going
to be Well, they already knew it was gonna be
Brian Dable. They just brought me in, you know, so
they fit the Rooney rule. Uh. By the way, I
actually believe that. Hunt go ahead. I was gonna say
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that there's other stuff in addition to this that is
damning to one organization as well. Well. He said that
he said that, um, Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins,
offered to pay him a hundred thousand dollars a loss
in order to tank. Now that was this first year, correct,
that was before they drafted. Right, that's what they're which
(15:26):
we all thought they were tanking, and they were tanking
for Tua. Correct, that is damning. Is damning. Now he
does not have any proof of that. Right, Unless he
has proof of that, it is hearsay. And but the
idea of losing with the intention of you know, losing
with the intention of losing is not a we talked about.
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Everybody talked about. Everybody knew they were taking. I knew
they were taking. But again, does any of this prove
racism is a part of hiring practice. What it will
do is it will probably make sure that Jacksonville and
that Houston, Okay, they hire black coaches. But I would
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guess for blind Flores this is at least in the
short term. Noway's hiring you to the NFL. Good luck
to you, Good luck to you. Had a job for
three years, interviewed um interviewed for several jobs. File us
for a couple of jobs. And this is what you
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do as a knee jerk. Reaction because you're mad. And
of course Brian Tables, the guy they hired. The assistant
GM guys bring with them people they've worked with previously,
and it it all makes sense. Flora's I believe was
somebody the owner, John Merrill wanted to take a look
at it. And just because you have somebody you want
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to hire doesn't mean that you don't want to at
least talk to Brian Flores and get his perspective on things.
So I my my take is, and look, I I
understand that when you looked at the numbers of who
is getting jobs like in this most recent cycle, it
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hasn't been nearly as good as it should be. It
has been nearly as good as it should be. But
we should also point out that two black gms have
just been hired. Theres nosed numbers can continue to grow.
And by the way, there are two guys from very
different background. Ryan Pulls, a former player who after he
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got out of plane, got right into the front office
and had a minimal paying job and worked his way up.
The other one, uh by or help me on how
I pronounced his name from Minnesota? Uh the new GM,
I don't I don't have it in front of me. Sorry,
I'm trying to go through quasi Adopho Mensa, who is
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by all accounts an absolutely brilliant dude. Right, he was
doing derivatives and then he started working in the Niners,
in with the Niners front office, did some cap stuff,
did some analytics work and whatever. Um quasi quasi excuse
me a Dopho Mensa? And who does he hire? Like
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right now, is he going to hire uh Damiko Ryan's
from San Francisco? Or is he gonna hire Jim Harball
who he worked with when he was in San Francisco.
That's what the two finalists for. But just saying it's
racist when there's no what is he talking about? The
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tanking one is probably the most damning thing the Texan
Bill Belichick like, well, what do you expect to have
happened when they hire the GM from Buffalo and Brian
Dable as the quarterback whisperer and Josh Allen looks completely
different the last two years than he looked previously. Of
course he's gonna get a job. Why shouldn't you get
a job? Stuck got show here on Fox Sports Radio,
(19:04):
Jeff Goodman joins us and uh Jeff is uh. He
works for Stadium Sports. He is where I am, or
he's across the street from where I am. Texas Tech
take it on Texas tonight. Chris Beard, who was the
head coach at Texas Tech took them to the National
championship game, is now the head coach at Texas And goodman,
you you posted some videos on social media last night.
(19:27):
What was it like? Remember this is a college basketball
team's practice, the night before a kind of innocuous Big
twelve game, midweek Big twelve game. What was the crowd
outside the arena at practice? Like? Like, these students are insane.
I mean, they hate Chris Bear. They hate him, and
you know, they try to tell me it's it's not
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just that he left Texas Tech for Texas, the in
state rival, the school that you know, obviously everybody gets
probably more credit to than maybe they deserve, based on
what they've done in both basketball and football over the years.
But they can't stand this guy. And they say it's
it's how he laughed, And I can't pinpoint. They can't
really give me a good reason how he laughed. Well,
(20:08):
he said he was home here in Lubbock. Bottom line
is Listen, he left because he thought Kevin Durant went
to Texas. Kevin Durant was never coming to Texas Tech, Doug.
They can get elite level players to Texas. I know again,
they haven't, you know, one a national title. They got
the resources. He went to school there, and tonight is
(20:30):
gonna be absolute bed. Look. I mean when they when
he left out of the bus. You saw the video,
It's thousands of students lining up, yelling profanities, chasing down
kind of his boss. They didn't do anything to it,
but they could see him in the front seat and
they're flipping him off and they're yelling you know what
at them. They despised Chris Beard. I've never seen anything
(20:54):
like it where it flipped so quickly from a love
to a hate relationship. Yeah. So so help help help
me out. Um, have you been like, what's the what's
the most vicious environment you've been in covering college basketball?
I mean probably Louisville, Kentucky, Right, I mean, like people
say Carolina, dude, but that's not a vicious crowd. I
(21:15):
mean they don't they don't like each other. But Louisville, Kentucky,
especially when kal and Patino absolutely hated each other, and
they would go through verbal sparring sessions like Cal would
say something that I would just call Patino and eggumon
and he would just come back with something one up
in Cal and the fans just absolutely hate each other there.
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So I would say, you know, Kentucky Louisville ten years
ago was elite level. But I'm telling you tonight, I'm scared.
I am scared for Crispy Ard, especially if Texas wins
this game and he walks off the courts. I'm telling
you they've got extra security that they're gonna have thirty
cops in the in the arena, They've got game up
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in front of the students sections. I still don't think
it's gonna be enough. You don't think gates are gonna
be enough. The comb rde over him done. I mean,
you're old. You couldn't have got over these gates. But
these kids are, they're they're agile, they're young. I think
they can get over their agile. They're young, and I'm old. Geez,
what what I put fends like this? I don't, I
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don't I don't need I don't need enemies. Uh. Jeff,
Jeff Good lunch. You did pick a lot of lunch.
I appreciate. I appreciated it. I truly truly do. Okay, Um,
why isn't Texas better? Well, I mean, you had seven
new guys, of which none of which are NBA players,
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and and it's really a group if you look at
it does not one player on this team other than
Christian Bishop has won an n C double a tournament.
You've taken a bunch of them. I talked to him
about this before the season. They're players. They know the
kind of storyline, which is not you guys have wanted anything.
Throw you together under an elite level coach, in my opinion,
and coach Beard. Now, Beard and the staff will say
(23:04):
like they've come a long way. Now they're a lot
further along, which makes sense because you're not only throwing
seven new guys, you're taking three holdovers that you never
coached in a new spot. Right You're you're not It's
not like Texas Tech. Even if you're bringing in six
or seven new players, you're keeping a few holdovers. The
culture is already there. Well, Beard's got to kind of
build that culture right now. Um, with with everything being new,
(23:28):
everything Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Jeff Goodman from from Stadium Sports. Um, okay,
who's the best team in the country. Listen, if you're
telling me right now I have to put my house
on the line for one team to win the whole thing.
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I'm going Gonzaga. But I'll tell you what Kentucky think
about this. Like, I know, they didn't be Daubernabern right.
It was. It was a close game, but they were
right there. They were without Ty Shington, They're only lottery pick.
They were without him for thirty minutes. They were without
Severe Wheeler. There are other point guard, their starting point
guard in a huge four minute stretch and when the
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score went from like one to ten, they were down.
I think Kentucky, honestly, you know what it is, Doug.
I always look at it a point guard play, and
almost every team of the last ten years has had
two guys that can run the point. That that's one
at all. Well, who else other than Kentucky right now
has two high level guys that you trust when the
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you know, run the point. So I think Kentucky's in there,
But I still go Gonzaga with them hard as long
as Nolan Hickman can keep coming, like like, he's got
to get better, but you've got You've got chat. Defensively,
he's gonna be much better than what last time we
saw him on the national stage. Timmy's the most probably proven,
accomplished college player in the country. Great coach in mark views,
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So I would go to Gonzaga or Kentucky. Um, okay,
I'm I'm I'm with you. I've seen Kentucky in person
and they're incredibly in terribly impressive. Um. If there was
a draft today and you do what you do draft previews,
do your own mock you talked to everybody in the league,
who would be the number one overall pick. I think
it's Jabari and Jabari Smith. And I don't even know
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if it's that close today. I just think, what is
everybody wanting the league right now? Right? Versatile winks, versatile forwards.
That's kind of the thing right now. And you know
they're worried about Chet's body. Can he put on five
or thirty pounds? Is he gonna hold up? You know,
you look at him, especially in person, and you're like, whoa, Um,
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I love Paolo, but I think Jabari has shown that again,
he's he's an elite level shooter at a similar heights
as Polo Um. He could put on probably pounds and
when he does, he can be He'll be a really
good rebounder. He can do everything. I mean, you can
handle it. He can take a coast to coast. He's
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he's smart, high i Q player, he play, he's hard,
he's a great teammate. There's no holes in his game.
So I just I think with the way the game
is going, I don't know how you pass on Jabari Smith.
I tend to I tend to agree with you. Okay,
so um, you do understand, like what you're wearing is important.
You're going to Texas Tech and Texas and Texas. What
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color of clothing are you wearing tonight? I'm not dumb.
I'm wearing I'm wearing blue. I got I got like, uh,
I think I got like a maybe a pink shirt
or something like that with a blue sport coat and
blue jeans. I'm not dumb. I'm not going black. I'm
not gonna red like I'm I'm I'm very calculated. How
I pulled this one off a good good enough that
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that's very sutral, you know, you gotta be neutral. But
the color is actually the colors of your clothing actually matter.
That's actually, that's actually a real I used to get killed.
I used to get because I'm more of a blue
guy anyway. And I go to like Carolina Duke and
I'd have the like Roy Williams blue and I go
to Durham and they would crush me for it, like
wearing Carolina blow. So once they did that, I started
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being a little bit more aware of what I wore
to each game, just to be smart. But listen to
a you gotta get out there before the game. You
gotta get out and I know, you know you're you're
a little above this, but you've gotta mingle with those
those tech pans. But what you're talking about, I don't
mind me. I don't mind. They're more much more my
people than they are your people. You know, Mr Massachusetts,
that's a good point, good point. But I'm I'm drinking
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with him before the game. So you get out there,
have a beer. Yeah, you gotta have a shiner buck
maybe maybe, why not? Do you know what shiner buck is? Yeah,
some sort of beer. It's a Texas beer. Do you
know why people drink shiner as opposed to drinking the
domestic beers. I do not in certain states, like I
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know in Oklahoma, your beer can only be at three
point two except for Shiner Buck because it's important. Yeah,
I mean I feel the handle sounder box. That's what
you tracked on. It's pretty soft. You're pretty soft. I am.
I am kind of soft. I'm soft enough to leave
two and a half feet of snow and come to
love it and then go to Tucson tomorrow. Very smart, say,
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there's there's a fine line between soft and smart with
that decision. You're making this smart decision. He's you have
good man, good. You'll see you over the game. Thanks
for joining us. You got a duke? Alright, Stug Gotlip
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Let's get to what the Fox said every day at
this time that I got leaby, shall we play for
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your abortion of something said earlier on Fox Sport trader
of Fox Sports on It's called what does the Fox say?
This is Dan Patrick talking about Tom Brady. I'm old
enough to remember when Joe Namath and Johnny Unitis ended
their careers with teams other than the ones that you
know they you know, earned their Hall of Fame bust with.
And you just watched him and you just you didn't
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want to see that where you go, oh my gosh,
I'm gonna end with the Rams, gonna end with the Chargers.
It's just, um, he played at a really high level.
I mean, the bar has said so high. You know,
we keep we want Patrick Mahomes maybe to be the
Goaden waiting here. You know, it's a dynasty of one
right now, Brady, you can't ask for anything more. Guys
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who play well and play well in big moments, games
on the line, and to have that moment against the
Rams as your final game, down three, you come back,
you tie it. He scared the hell out of the Rams.
He just ran out of time. This is Colin Carhart
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on Tom Brady. He is the most productive and influential
player in the history of the National Football League. Don't
waste my time arguing he's not. He leaves dynamically with
a sense of timing, not shocking at all. He will
not go into broadcasting. He owns multiple companies. He will
no longer be an employee. Roger Staubach, John Elway and
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Tom Brady all had something magnificent in common. They left
with a lot left timing matters. I wish more people
understood it. Michael Jordan's to the Wizards, Joe Namath to
the Rams, of Lord Ben limping off into the sunset.
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It doesn't have to be that way. When I look
at Brady, it is such a refined, prepared way to leave.
He controlled his ending, just like he controlled the NFL
for twenty two years. And it's not a coincidence that
the most meticulously prepared, the most overwhelmingly detailed, the most
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driven and focused professional athlete of my life left completely
utterly on his terms in great shape at an m
v P level. Hmm, it's interesting. Um, I agree with
both of them. You know, Dan Patrick's one of one.
And and how Tom Brady left like he left, he
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left walking out. No one does that. They don't do that.
And we could say John Elway left as a champion
in and paid Manning left to the champion. They did,
but their production was so far down from what it
had previously been. Brady walks away with gas still in
the tank. You know, gas still in the tank. He
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didn't completely empty it. That's even more impressive what he's
done in terms of taking care of his body, taking
less money, and just generally being a winner. Those are
the things that resonate. And the one eighty of how
we view him after he left to England is not
an accident. I think that's part of why he chose
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to do what he did, and it was mission accomplished.
And you know what, he also because he has something
left in the tank. I think he probably earned some
bonus points at home. Let's just be honest, right, that's
it's about. It's about to keep mama happy and her
knowing that he could still play, and he still walked away.
I think that makes it more palatable that he probably
played a couple of years too long for her taste. Right,
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Giselle wanted him to stop playing a long time ago.
Let's like, let's not kid ourselves. That's why she was
the one who said that he had had a bunch
of concussions that hadn't reported it, right, she wanted to
stop playing a long time ago. But Brady walking away
while he still could play, I think has to earn
him something in terms of some points at home. And
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that's what the Fox I want to get into this lawsuit.
I want to have an open discussion about it, you know,
because I think one of the things that we're doing is,
you know, we're labeling everything racism, and I just it
gets really I'm not gonna sit here and tell you
racism doesn't exist, and I'm not going to tell you
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that there wasn't you know, there wasn't a long, uh
storyline going back forty years ago of of the black
quarterback not being as well regarded in terms of their
ability to be an NFL quarterback. But I have to
tell you, I just think this is an awful look
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for for Brian Flores. Look Brian Flores This is the
god's honest truth. He got hired before the nineteen season,
Is that right? Um? Dan Buyer wasn't It was that right? Okay?
So the year before the year before it was two
thousand eighteen, Um, he had not yet been I don't
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believe the full time defensive coordinator of the Newham Patriots.
He was a linebackers coach. And I know a couple
of teams that brought him in that year, And I
believe one of the reasons he was brought in because,
like he was a young, well regarded guy in his
thirties in New England. People liked him. And I had
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a GM tell me the year before not hiring him,
but man, he's gonna go. He's gonna be a good
head coach somewhere. He just he's got whatever the it
is organization, his personal discipline, his leadership capabilities, his knowledge
of the NFL game. Like he's going to be a dude.
And if somebody wants to spend the time and search
through my hundreds of thousands of tweets, you can see that.
(35:10):
You can find that again, that's Brian Floord is gonna
be a head I put Brian Flord's gonna be head
coached in six months. And that was right when the
seat that season started and he was the he was
the defensive queen. I don't even know if he was
the defensive coordinat I think he was still the linebackers coach.
I think eighteen nineteen he was. He was the defensive coordinator.
So for one years or defensive coordinator, and early on
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that season I tweeted out, it's gonna be a head coach,
and he was. But that's what the Rooney Rule is
intended to for, to give you voices outside of the
ones that you expect. And the perfect example is the
New York Giants. The Giants had once they decided on
a GM, it was a GM that was going along
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with the coach they were. It was a package deal.
And while it may not feel good, it's also you know, like,
how does he know that they had decided on Dable? Dable?
Being the favorite is not every every game you go
in somebody's a favorite. That doesn't mean it doesn't change
every interview goes in. You being the favorite doesn't mean
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it doesn't change. But but the assumption of racism is
so it is so so divisive, so divisive. You know,
it's like the Denver thing, where part of the accusations
are that you know, he's he he does not believe
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he got a um, he does not believe he got
a fair strike or fair shake at being the at
being the Broncos head coach that they they were already
going to hire Vic Fangio? Did does anybody like, Here's
what I want you to realize, was did Vic Fangio?
And I know, I mean, I know some of why.
Vic Fangio started coaching in the nash A Football League
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in night four. He got his first head coaching job
in two thousand nineteen. He'd been he'd been in the
league for twenty five thirty five years before he got
his shot, and is a very well regarded defensive coordinator.
So the point is these jobs are hard to get,
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hard to get, and Florence had one and still might
get another one. I don't think so. I think this
is a really tough pill to swallow, right, Like, man,
we're gonna this guy is calling our whole league racists
when you're interviewing for all these different jobs. Do we
hire him? Oh? All right? Coming up next, we'll say
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goodbye to Tom Brady. When I say Tom Brady ten
years from now, what are you gonna think? And the
one part of the the last Tom Brady we've seen
that will resonate most to me, that's the accident Doug
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