November 12, 2024 • 36 mins
Dan and Aaron in for Doug as they discuss the most interesting aspects of the college football playoff. Dan gives his Beyer's Remorse for the week. Dan shows off his wife's sports knowledge in a feature called "Lisa's Lineup". Plus, Monse Bolanos takes the guys through a Tuesday edition of "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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It's not a new game, Aaron Torres, but it is
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that's coming up in thirty minutes. I don't think you're
gonna want to miss it. But before that, we got
a college football playoff to talk about, because tonight another
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set of rankings comes out as we find out who
would fill out the field of twelve once these rankings.
And it is crazy now that we've got these rankings
coming out, Aaron, because the rankings aren't necessarily telling us
who the twelve teams are. Yes, we have to kind
of figure it out for ourselves when we develop our brackets.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well, that's my first beef, and we'll get into the
big picture ramifications of what we'll learn tonight. And then
just in general, can you just give us the teams
in order of what they would be on the final
day of the season selection Sunday. And I've said this
on all my platforms, including my show on Saturday Nights.
Is I think we just have to change the rankings
from a ranking to bracketology, because that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Is.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
You know, BYU can't be ninth in the rankings, but
they would get that automatic first round by as a
Big twelve champion as the four seed, So just put
them in as the four seed. It's like, that's that's
a small picture issue that is very easy to fix.
And I think as ESPN presents these rankings and you
know whatever, just make it practology. Just give us the
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bracket as it would stand if the season ended today.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Which by the way, is Aaron is talking about. There
is an actual grid of one to sixty eight for
those that may not be familiar with the NCAA tournament.
But the bracket doesn't fall into place one to sixty
eight because of a lot of different things. That is
essentially what's going on here. They are giving us there
one to sixty eight, but as you're saying, you got
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to present it in bracket form so we actually know
what we could see. Telling me that to your point,
BYU is ninth does not state the fact of how
important it is that BYU is the first Big twelve
team in that ranking, whereas Georgia being third correct on
the screen, or Ohio State being second doesn't necessarily show
where they would fall then in that bracket.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, and I think everybody listening knows. But Oregon and
Ohio State we talked, are they the two best teams
in college football? They could be ranked one and two.
Only one of them will get the first round by
as a as a conference champion.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So there is excitement. There's more are more rankings coming
out later tonight. But you're a huge college football guy. Sure,
as he said, you and Jason Martin Saturday nights here
recapping all of the day's action. I've it's actually one
of the great things with my workload here at Fox
Sports Radio. My day off is Saturday, sure, and so
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I get an opportunity to just enjoy college football like
consuming as a fan, like I did for so many years,
and it's it's been a lot of fun. So I
consider myself a college football fan as well. I look
forward to the rankings and then I'll sort everything out,
and I'll look at the bracket like I did every
day last week and be like, oh, this is interesting.
That's interesting. You're saying that there's some drawbacks to what
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we're getting, or maybe some stuff that I don't want
to say nintended unintended consequences? Is that maybe a better phrase.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's the perfect verbiage that I would use. Yes, there's
a couple of things that I think stand out is
and you know, listen, this is new for all of us,
so none of us knew coming in, but I think
we all kind of thought, hey, you know, some years,
we can't even really find four teams that are worthy.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
So if you get to twelve, there's not.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Gonna be any scenario where anybody can complain about thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, whatever,
and that's just not gonna be the case. Now, some
of it is it the committee's fault, isn't whatever. But
the one thing I keep harping on with Jason Martin
imbalanced schedules, because this is the unattended consequence is all
of these conferences are so big now and there are
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so many teams that there's no way for all of
the best teams to play each other. And you put it,
you know, you put it on a schedule, and you
have no idea who's gonna be good and this and that.
But it's like, you know, you look at uh, let's
look at the Big Ten as a perfect example, Ohio State.
You could criticize any Ryan Day whatever They're gonna have
to play Oregon, Penn State, and Indiana, who are right
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now the three best teams outside of Ohio State, Iowa,
Ohio State plays all three. None of the other three
play each other. Like that's kind of crazy to think about.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
UH.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
By the way, the ACC right now SMU of all
s is alone in first place undefeated. Tied for second
place with one loss are Miami and Clemson none of
those three teams play each other BYU Colorado, Iowa State.
In the Big Twelve, none of those teams play each other.
And so that's the first part is you just look
at it big picture. I think it's gonna be really
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hard on selection Sunday, where you take, say, in the SEC,
you take a Georgia that I had to play at
ole Miss, at Texas, at at Alabama versus a team
like ole Miss who missed Alabama, who missed Tennessee, who
missed Texas on the schedule. And I know in that
exact example you have the head to head game. But
I just think it's going to make things so much
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more complicated than people realize, including, by the way, a
very likely scenario where the SEC is just so jumbled
at the top, which we can get into in a second.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But I want your thoughts one.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, no, it flies in the face of what we're
used to in college football. And when you had the
expansion of teams, I remember there was a conversation going
on on would the SEC break into four different potters?
And instead we did the opposite and said let's just
throw everybody in together. And the Big Ten did the same,
And there's no, there's no matchups that you could get
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from two separate divisions back then, even though it was
a year ago. What you were trying to do is
you were trying to put your best foot forward. They
were trying to put your best team there. So if
you could get your top two divisional teams, and even
if the top two teams in the league were in
the same division, like maybe a Michigan and Ohio State,
one of those was gonna win out over the others,
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so then they would have an opportunity to then beat
the opponent from the West and you would move on,
which happened quite a bit in the Big Ten at
the time, but it worked out well for them that
their best foot was put forward. Now with so many spots, Aaron,
it's not about putting your best foot forward. It's about
trying to get as many teams in as you can.
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And I actually think that to your point, you're absolutely correct,
but I almost think that they want it this way.
Like if you're the SEC and you're the Big Ten.
Just look at the rankings, look at where the ACC
and the Big twelve are. And it's so funny because
in the summer when there was talk of expanding to
fourteen schools. Yep, there was a pushback of getting the
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SEC in the big ten buys in those rounds, and
I actually think that you and I may have had
this discussion of you have to take what you can
get if you're the ACC or the Big twelve, because
right now we're seeing a bracket that doesn't include any
of those schools outside of the automatic buys that they
get for winning their conference. And so with all that
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being said, you find it a problem. I think it's
exactly what Tony Pettiti and Greg Sank would want, is
this conversation of all right, yeah, maybe you know Georgia
doesn't play all of these teams whatever, but that's fine
because in the end of the day, that committee's gonna
have to make a decision and we'll see if they'll
put say, pitt ahead of Georgia in that scenario. There's
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like no way that those conference commissioners think that would happen.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
But I think it all sounds great on paper until
you get to a scenario where let's say, let me
give you a very simple scenario. Georgia beats Tennessee this weekend.
Georgia is an eleven point favorite, right, so that seems
very feasible that it could happen, that it probably will happen.
So Georgia now well could finish the season ten and two.
They have a loss to Alabama. Alabama, there are only
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two s. There are only two SEC games are against
Oklahoma and Vandy. We think they're gonna win out. Alabama
finishes ten and two. Well, they have the head to
head and win over Georgia, but they lost to Tennessee,
and then Tennessee of course could finish ten and two
with the win over Bama the loss to Georgia, and
so yeah, it sounds good. And yes, you may get
more bids than anticipated because the ACC and Big twelve
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don't have that competition.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But it is already setting up. I'm already seeing.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It on social media where it's like, you know, I
saw something yesterday. I don't want to criticize the writer
because I don't even think he really thought about it,
but he had a bracket where Alabama was in the
playoff and Tennessee was out, and I saw Tennessee fans
freaking out, saying, how can you leave us out with
the head to head win? And of course his argument
was xyz whatever. I'm not gonna defend or argue whatever.
(09:09):
The point I'm trying to make is, yeah, it sounds good,
you might get that fourth bid as opposed to the
third bid, But especially in the SEC, teams are gonna
get left out, And I think, what's really gonna happen?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I think we're already seeing this as well.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
We thought the Big brand bias was dead because you
know that fourteen playoff. There was always the year where
Alabama didn't win the SEC or Ohio State didn't win
the Big Ten, and did they really deserve to get in?
But they got in anyway, And there was also conversation.
Now it's gonna be extrapolated because there is once you
get past those conference champions, so much just debate. And
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so the school that I'm already seeing Dan hasn't even
lost a game yet, the Indiana Hoosiers, well, wife, they
lose to Ohio State, what's their record gonna look like?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They'll be eleven and one? What will be their best win?
Dah da da da.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Dah this and that, and it's like so, yeah, like
the Big Ten and are still in position to they
have the advantageous pathway.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But I also still.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Don't think it's going to preclude a lot of debate,
a lot of argument teams that believe they should be
in getting in, And I think we're headed towards those
very annoying, you know, Saturday nights, Sunday morning conversations about well,
this team only got in because of the brand bias
and that team got left out.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You know, da da da da, But that no, that
name that.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That is an argument, that is one that previously wasn't
there again because of the four teams. It was still
kind of there even in the Baylor TCU Ohio State
from the first ever college football ranking, in the first
ever playoff that we had, there was the thought that
Ohio State got in because of the bigger brand name
than by than Baylor or TCU. That has always been there.
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But I don't know how you can't look back at
college football and say, yeah, there is a jumbled mess
around the ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen rankings, because there always
has been, like there's two decipher who is who is
who is really the better ten and two team. It
doesn't matter if it's in the SEC. If you ever
separated in the conference in the past, you would have
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a difficulty in trying to figure out, all right, who
is really eleven and who is twelve? Now that's the
cutoff point. And the thing that we would say in
saying we would want a playoff is I would feel
much better leaving out the twelfth best team of the
thirteenth best team that I would leaving the fifth fifth team.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I think we thought we were gonna think that. But
let's use an example. Ole Mis gets left out over
a Georgia team that they beat head to head. That's
a very because remember, if Georgia beats Tennessee, they have
a win over Tennessee, that have a win over Text.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I get it. Hey, listen, I'm not an ol missfan.
I don't really care.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
But I just think that we we all thought the
whole art because listen, you're right. You know what, in
any sport, once you get past number one, number two,
number three, whatever, they're all inherently flawed teams. We all
know there's a difference between the ninth best team in
the NFL and the best team in the NFL. But
I do think that was kind of this belief that, like, well,
I mean, if you get left out at number thirteen,
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there's really not an argument that you should have been in.
And it's like, okay, Tell that to an Indiana fan
that finishes eleven and one with Roy lost to Ohio State.
Tell that to an old misfan that beat Georgia head
to head and sees Georgia get in. Tell that to
a Tennessee fan that beat Alabama and sees Alabama get in.
So I listen, you're right, by the way, we could
have a thirty two team playoff. Do it with basketball.
We get to sixty eight teams and we're still arguing
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about sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
You Andandy get in and out South Carolina.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I mean this is I was fired up about Saint
John's last year, but you know, like so there's always
gonna be argument. But I do think I really believe
and maybe you just feel differently, and that's totally fine.
I think we all thought, well, once you get to thirteen,
I mean, nobody's gonna really have that strong of an argument,
and I think teams.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Will be no. I the SEC in.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
A way, like the Indiana argument is true one hundred percent.
If they lose to Ohio State, their resume and what
they have done is going to be so interesting up
against the SA. Another reason though, why I don't think
people will feel as bad for any SEC school, aside
from the pompous nature that the fan bases have in
that league, is because of the eight conference games. And
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you know, if you add a ninth, half the league
is getting another loss. And honestly, it may separate more
than not. But if they're unwilling to do it, you
have to be willing to accept the chaos.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
The committee will actually factor that in though they should.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It's a good point, but no, I don't know what
the committee is going to factor in. But my point
is if you're Alabama and you're left out, or if
you're all miss and you're left out, you're in a
league again that will only play eight conference games and
so and the reason that I want to do nine
is again, half the league gets another loss, and you're
trying to get as many teams as you can. And
when you see the rankings, by the way, aside from
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Notre Dame and the Independent and the automatic bid from
Boise State and the automatic pies, it's all big ten
in the SEC anyway. That's who made up the at
large bids. That's where I don't feel bad about the
SEC is because that's the BED and Greg ZANKI it
may matter, but it probably doesn't matter as long as
his member institutions get in that number. Maybe you'd rather
have an Alabama ahead of an Ole miss just saying
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on brand wise. But ultimately, if they get five, then
I'm sure they would want six or seven. But I
don't know if he's fighting you know who are you
know who they want in or who they don't want in.
If you're an SEC commissioner.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Here's another interesting variable that probably will be more of
a factor in the SEC than anywhere else. What do
you do about a two loss? Because right now we
have what six teams that all have two losses in
the SEC? Five teams something like that. Somebody's gonna get
in the SEC championship game with two losses. What happens
if they lose and take a third loss? And are
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you put are you are you punting?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Are you punishing them for taking a third loss? Are
you putting them in over over a team that only
has two losses? You know, it's just gonna be I
think it's gonna be a lot murkier and messier than
I think a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I had an idea that I completely threw out and
threw it in the trash because it wouldn't work. But
I thought, how about a Big ten tournament in college football?
You know, if you're having this cross thing, like if
teams aren't playing each other, take your top four teams
and play a tournament. But again, that would add three
more losses to Big ten teams. So there's like no
way that a league would do that, whether it be
the Big Ten, whether it be the ACC, whether it
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be the SEC. That it was such a bad idea,
I didn't even want to bring it up, but I
thought that would at least separate on who is what,
because I do agree that the conference championship game actually
maybe more than a curse than a blessing because of
the added loss. But I hope that I hope because
of the state the status of these leagues without separate divisions,
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that it's not held against them.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's just difficult for me for it it not to be.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, all I'll really add is, you know, divisions felt
weird and they didn't make sense, and they were imbalanced.
In most years, the Big Ten East was so much
better than the Big Ten West.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I do think it kind of cleaned up a lot
of the things that are inevitably going at specifically the SEC,
because the Big Ten is pretty straightforward. If Ohio State
wins out, a bunch of teams will have one loss,
all those losses will be to Ohio State, so Ohio
State will get in. But you know, like the SEC,
there's a very easy scenario. And I'll be quick on
this because I know we got other stuff to get to.
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We could have seven teams all tied atop the SEC
standings when the regular season ends, and it's not that crazy.
All that has to happen is Georgia has to be
Tennessee this weekend, Texas A and M has to be
Texas at home, and all of a sudden, you have
those four schools Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A, and M
Alabama if they went out, Ole miss if they went out,
and I believe Missouri's the seven seven teams. No, And
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it's not like a crazy scenario for it to happen,
and it's just it's gonna be a mess.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Say another game, you know, you want to know what
might you know what my takeaway is when I saw
Georgia lose to Ole Miss, and I know people are
saying it's not the same Georgia team, it's a different
Georgia team.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
They don't believe in Carson Beck. I get all that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But now Georgia is going to go into the playoffs,
you know, sitting there as a a squad that could
be like a ten seed. Yeah, and so if you're
Texas you really want to face Georgia again.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Congrats Notre Dame. You just got in, get your home
playoff game against Georgia.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But I'm even thinking of the top two seats, Like,
if you're Oregon and you're an eight nine, sure in
that matchup, what is your reward getting a Georgia team
because they're in such a mishmash of a mess of
the sec.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Well that's that's That's again another conversation for probably a
different segment. But there's been a hot debate on the
internet about do you actually like, like, if you're Ohio
State and Oregon, is it actually better to lose the
conference championship game get in as the five seed, you
play probably the big the big twelve champ and then it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Would be if you knew that the conference championship game
wasn't going to be held against you, like if that
loss was not gonna you know, drop them down. Because
that's the difficult thing is you don't know if you
lose in that game, if you would still be able.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
To hold on to the number five rating. Fair fair, fair,
fair fair.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So that's but yeah, it absolutely would be I'd much
rather face Boise State and then go up against BYU
and then end up in a se my final, then.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, absolutely, as opposed to Oregon facing the winner of
Alabama whoever.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You know.
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Speaker 3 (18:26):
I appreciate you guys having me.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
You know, I know Doug obviously, you know, as you said,
he was unavailable, so I'm always a pleasure to being
with you guys.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He's on a bus on his way to Western Illinois,
where the green Bay Phoenix will be playing tomorrow. I'm
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We unveiled a couple of weeks ago. It's not for
me to get a little something off my chest. Aaron Torres.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I engage, come.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
On, but there's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I think this is the second time this has happened
this season where I had a Gambler pick that failed.
But there was another game on the slates, and I
have all the games to pick from NBA, college basketball,
college football, the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I could pick all.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Of them, and I've been taking for weeks that I
thought Denver could top Kansas City. I just felt it
was such a trap game for the Chiefs, and it
almost happened if it wasn't for the blackfield goal at
the gun errand I would have.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Been right on my Broncos prediction. The only problem with it.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
For our Gambler segment that we do every Friday, I
picked the Bears for some stupid reason I don't know why,
actually had game a reason why, which was a bad reason.
So if you were any handicapper like Jared Smith who
joins the show every single week, you would be oh, Dan,
that was a pretty stupid pick. But I made it anyway,
and I could have got my gambler right if I
just stuck with believing in the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
They didn't have to win.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They just had to cover the eight and a half
or whatever the point spread was, and they did that
by a mile by only losing by two. Even though
they lost on the blocked field goal. I still would
have won on the pick. I believed in Denver for
all these weeks, and when time came to put my
money on the line, I spaced out and didn't do.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It, and he took the Bears instead. That's the word. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
God, they were never in the game, like, there was
never a point worse. Yeah, where You're like, oh, they've
got an opportunity. Yeah, this could be.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
They were never in a nineteen to three game.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I know it's this is Buyer's remorse, not torres remorse.
But I had a similar situation where I saw the
over under point total in the Alabama LSU game and
instantaneously I was like, there's no way that over is hitting.
Then I look at the stats, I think about it
throughout the week. I took the over and within one possession,
I was like, LSU can't look on l them.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
They just and they did it, and they did it.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I wanted to tweet Nuss Meyers, going to show who
the top quarterback in this game?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Was?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Good thing I didn't? Good thing I did not? Well,
he did show it. I mean he just didn't show
that he was the top. He made it very clear,
very very good point.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
His penalty is coaching us the rest of the season.
That's that's that's an old joke. May not match up
to you know how I met your Soto, but still
all right, he's aeron Torres. I'm Dan Beyer Matzi. Did
you hear that the NFL or the NL and al
MVP finalists were announced yesterday?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yes, yes, yes he did.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Ryan Berschinger, resident producer here on Fox Sports Radio, baseball
expert Jason Stewart as well. So three finalists in the
American League and National League announced. For the National League,
Shoheo Tani appears to be the favorite, but Francisco Lindor
and Ktel Marte of the Arizona Diamonbacks also finalists. Any
(21:55):
problems first with those guys being finalists for the National
League honor?
Speaker 7 (22:00):
No, No, Otani and Lindor were the easy choices there. Sure,
let's throw katel Marte into the bunch. You can get
some third place.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It's like that herb right that you season in just
season a little like like who deserves it? Like they're
gonna finish third, they're gonna get the bronze. But yeah,
all right, so Martine, by the way, voting's already done,
so they know the top three and that's that's actually
how it's done. It's not that they're doing them a
favor that they know who the top three are and
those are the three finalists. As for the American League,
(22:31):
Bobby Wood Junior and then a pair of Yankees in
Juan Soto and Aaron Judge Are we right on those
as well?
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Yes, yeah, Judge should run away with it. But unfortunately
for Bobby Wit. Bobby Wit had an incredible season. He
would easily win MVP in most seasons, but Judge just
had a phenomenal year.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Aaron Torres and I. We love college football, we love
the NFL. We love Aaron obviously, he's passion college hoops,
the whole deal. Baseball not my biggest thing. I would say,
maybe not your biggest thing. Now we need bersh and
Manzi and Jason Stewart here.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, I I was not familiar with Kotel Marte's game
before this segment.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
YEA, what that shack means?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
A perfect lead into what we're gonna get to. Jason Stewart.
Do you agree with Ryan Berschinger's award winners? Are you
happy with the whole process?
Speaker 8 (23:18):
No, I'm not happy. So think so major League Baseball
drops the ball in many aspects of their pr and
trying to outreach to younger audiences and try to be
hip the NFL. We've scrutinized the way they do their
award show on the Thursday night before the Friday, when
we're on Radio Row packed with guests, and stuff. MLB
(23:41):
needs to do an award show on the Monday after
the season and just like completely take advantage of all
the eyes and the attention right before the playoffs start
and do the award show. To have it done in
late November makes no sense. Nobody's thinking baseball or talking
about baseball, especially in our space. It's just an another
example of Major League Baseball shooting themselves in the foot
(24:03):
when it comes to being relevant.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You mean, people aren't gonna get excited at six o'clock
Eastern time on a Wednesday, a week before Thanksgiving that
someone's gonna win the Cy Young Award or the al
MVP on a Thursday, a week out from Thanksgiving.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Unless they tell us where Juan Soto's going.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No, You're absolutely right, And I think it is an
opportunity for baseball if they were to put it within
this window, I guess of relevance, it would resonate a
lot more. I saw a breakdown of who won the
nl MVP last year and the year before, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
I forgot I forgot about that. But we could do
that in the National Football League And I think that's
(24:41):
a problem. But it also allows us to I don't know,
have some content here, because who better to judge the
common person or when it comes to the common sports fan,
or maybe just the common person, as it is not me,
not Aaron Torres, not Ryan Bershing or Jason Stewart, montci
Bell or Iowa Sam. But my wife Lisa. I figured
(25:04):
I would put her to the test and how well
she knew the finalist for the American League and National
League Most Valuable Player. So what I did aarin was
last night and I left it for so when she
got up this morning she saw it. I left her
a sheet and I said, here are six names. And
I did not provide the first names. It was blank Otani,
(25:27):
blank Lindore, blank Marte, blank Judge, blank Soto, blank Witt Junior.
And I put the six names to the right. It
wasn't like she had to come up with them out
of thin air. I figured that would be much too difficult.
Match up, match up the name. See how well, to
Jason's point, if you're not cashing in, my wife was
(25:49):
all in on the Dodgers. We were watching all the games.
She was telling me to turn on the Dodger game.
So let's see how well she knew the finalists for
the American League and National League Most Valuable Player awards,
according to my wife Lisa, your nominees in the National
League Dodgers designated hitter according to my wife sho he Otani.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
All right, she was saying, attention, your.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Second nominee for National League Most Valuable Player Mets second baseman,
Aaron Lindor.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Like Aaron Lindor according to my wife Lisa.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And your final finalist for National League Most Valuable Player
second baseman for the Arizona Diamondbacks, Francisco Martee.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
I get it, though, Francisco Marte, you think.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Latin Latin, you know what.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
I get what she was doing, that's what she was
going for.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Trying to match it up. Let's say you can explain
the American League Marzi manning the outfield for the New
York Yankee Bobby Judge.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Bobby Judge. According to my wife Lisa, I was just
thinking as a perfect care.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Also taking part of the Yankees outfield Juan Soto and
rounding out our finalists royal shortstop to tell what Junior
that According to my wife, Uh, Lisa and knowing sports, Yeah, six,
(27:36):
that's me's pretty good batting average right three for three.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Do you think if Aaron Judge had been better in
the World Series she would have gotten.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Now, Hi, I knew she would get o Tani. I
knew that that was gonna be the one. I thought
Aaron Judge was going to be the other one that
she would get. And then I got the list and
I read him in the order, and I saw Aaron Lindor,
and I'm like, yes, yes, Thank goodness, because it also
sets off the domino effect of there's other you know,
there's other matchup. That's why would you try to predict
(28:04):
an NFL draft. If you get one pick wrong, you
likely have also set off three other picks that have
been wrong. But uh so, yeah, she hit three thirty
three in that A L N N L MVP list.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
It seems like she she did know Jan Soto from
the World Series, but then realized she had left herself
with CATL.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
That's what I was thinking, is like, if she knew
Wan Soto from the World Series, you would have thought
she knew Aaron Judge. But Aaron Judge was so bad
in the World Series until the last couple of games,
but then he had to draft five ball whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That it is. Yeah, he's no Bobby Judge. I'll tell
you that much.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Maybe she thought it was Arson.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
She's like, huh Arson Judge.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
But yes, in an indirect way, your wife just proved
me right. Yes, exactly, know me right? Oh okay, give
me a second on those okay, three three months ago,
something that we discussed quin viral. Remember you and Moncey
were hosting, and I brought up the fact that Kaitlyn
(29:04):
Clark was more famous than Aaron Judck and you weren't
having it right.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
You haven't act. Yes, I think if.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
You put Caitlin Clark's name on there in some meshed way,
Lisa would have gotten it right, and she did not
get Aaron Judge right. So in an indirect way, Lisa
three months later proved me right in the viral discussion
that we had.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Can we erase this on the podcast? Is there a
way to do it? I was even Carrie Rhodes that
day was a Yankees fans like, yeah, Kaitlyn Clark's more popular.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I'm like, get out of here. Yeah. We talked about
it for the whole week. Yeah, we did. We had
a debate.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
The department, you know, loves to steal Topics even saved
it for his show with Moncy on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
We did.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
We had a debate on our show, Kaitlyn Clark is
she the most famous under twenty five basketball player in
the world.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
This was about four or five months ago. Her or
Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
At like the peak of Anthony Edwards might be the
new Michael Jordan And I was like, I still think
it's Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, she would know Caitlyn Clark for sure, But would
you know Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You'd think it's the actor. That's who you would think
of Edward Anthony. Yeah, good one, Sam, it's the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox. Yeah, sitting again for Doug Gottlieb
here live ath tireq dot Com Studios. No, we'd love you, Sam.
Were you impressed? Did you know all the names? Would
you have gone six for six?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, you know what, I'm not gonna lie. I just
confuse Starling Marte with Martes. I'm like, there's two Martes
and yeah, yeah, that's how little I know.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
By the way, where can they get the sick podcast
that you? Manci and bo Benz Find.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
It on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, The Sick Podcast, The
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Speaker 2 (30:39):
Now there it is all right. Get Jason at Jason Stewart.
You can find aeron Torris at Aaron Underscore Torris. You
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Speaker 6 (30:49):
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Speaker 2 (31:00):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's eron Torres.
I'm Dan Byer sitting in for Doug today. Doug in
the Phoenix on their way take on Western Illinois tomorrow.
I'll bus ride today. So yeah, Doug's on the bus.
We're in Fort Doug. Jason Stewarts here, Iowa Sam hanging
out as well as is Monty Belanos, who will bring
us the press.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
The press.
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Speaker 9 (31:43):
Well, the big story of the day in the NFL
was that the Chicago Bears are making moves. They fired
offensive coordinator Shane Woldron and promoted offensive passing coordinator Thomas Brown.
But it looks as though changes won't be happening in Dallas,
especially to AT and T Stadium. We all just saw
ceed Lamby Blinded by the Light.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
In week ten.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Here is Jerry Jones on that stadium, the currents, everything
we're talking about this week.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Of all of the things that we all need to improve,
that is way down the list of improvement. All I
can say is that stadium was built to feel like
it's outdoors when you're indoors. It's the largest air conditioned
space in the world. Every venue has certain things that
(32:35):
at certain ways and times in the contests can create
an advantage that really goes on the category of home
field advantage. It should be an advantage to the home team,
So I don't want to adjust it. For one reason
is because it is an advantage to us. It has
been an advantage for us to know where the sun is.
(32:57):
I don't want to change that.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Fellas thoughts, this is so absurd.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's it's one thing with his unwillingness. But again, my
biggest issue is it was Daylight Savings coming to an end,
and so the Cowboys, instead of figuring out how they're
gonna get a win without Dak Prescott and how to
stop the Philadelphia Eagles in a huge division game, Jerry
Jones wants them to realize that guess what, we fell
(33:24):
back last week and when our first came back, you
should take the coin toss and take this direction of
the field, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Like unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I blame Daylight Savings ending, and I blame Jerry Jones
for this madness.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I was saying, you want to have in I was
just gonna, hey, Jerry, shut.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Up about the sun. Shut up about the sun.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
No one cares about the sun. I know what that is.
It's from the office, right, yes, come on now, ye son?
Oh it's is it a newer office?
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Sure?
Speaker 9 (34:00):
Like towards the later seasons.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, I got to get more of a reaction, but
at least it was pretty good. That's told me to
play that Ryan's the effort. You're you're thought I was.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Gonna say really quick, it's a funny quote. It also
that's the other like it's not Jerry's fault, you know,
and nothing's ever Jerry's fault, and it's like, I'm the GM,
you know, it's it's what he like, and it's just
it's just the same record over and over. I know
all you guys, you know, you and Doug and Jase
do talk about it every single day. But it's like
it's just it's never his fault. It's always somebody else's fault.
(34:37):
He's the GM.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Like it's just I'm just over it, Like I really
he If if.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You were Dak Prescott or Ceedee Lamb or Micah Parsons
and you said to Jerry, you know what we need,
we need USB ports at our lockers in our locker room,
I think Jerry would be like, absolutely, guess what, hey,
media come in. We have brand new lockers for our team.
They include personalized us B reports for these guys to
(35:01):
you know, have their phones. It would be a request
the players that they would show off. Now the players
are saying can we block the sun? And Jerry's like, uh,
I'm not gonna do it, like what owner is like, Sorry,
can't do it. These owners bend over backwards for their team.
Jerry Jones bends over backwards to provide the Cowboys with
the experience that they have with their training facility and whatnot.
(35:21):
But to not change or to put up a curtain
for one quarter of a game, it's just pure hubris
and idiocy. Yeah, all right, I gotta I got a
Shane Waldron thing too as well.
Speaker 9 (35:34):
Go for it.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
The Bears, you had to do it for optics wise,
but they promote Thomas Brown from their passing you know,
passing coordinator. The Bears have the third worst passing game
when it comes to ya in the national.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
Football So well, I don't know how much time we
really have for this, but I'm gonna play you a
little bit of sound from Fran Brown, Syracuse head football coach,
because I think he handles losses differently than we do.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Honestly, I got like a virtual like when we lose,
I ain't even getting a shower it till early this morning.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I'll just be mad. I just brush my teeth. But
it's like I don't deserve soap. I don't deserve to
do all that. I just I'm just focused on, Like guys,
you don't shower.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
He's a shower after losses.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
He don't deserve it.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
He don't deserve it.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I get the wearing the same sort of shirts or
the underwear. You wash it and you wear it. Then
not showering. It's just wrong. The Syracuse Orange rotten oranges,
all right, And that's the press.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That is the press. Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That was the press.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Keys erin Sores, I'm Dan Byer. It's been fun. I
appreciate you guys having me.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Thank you, Catch Aaron Saturday Nights with Jason Martin and
me with Carrie Roades Sunday. We'll talk to you tomorrow
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Bottom of the hour. We're unveiling.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's not a new game, Aaron Torres, but it is
a new segment here on Fox Sports Radio, and we're
gonna have some fun. Okay, we're gonna see how well
my wife knows sports. Oh, that's all right. So that's
that's coming up in thirty minutes. I don't think you're
gonna want to miss it. But before that, we got
a college football playoff to talk about, because tonight another
(01:00):
set of rankings comes out as we find out who
would fill out the field of twelve once these rankings.
And it is crazy now that we've got these rankings
coming out, Aaron, because the rankings aren't necessarily telling us
who the twelve teams are. Yes, we have to kind
of figure it out for ourselves when we develop our brackets.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well, that's my first beef, and we'll get into the
big picture ramifications of what we'll learn tonight. And then
just in general, can you just give us the teams
in order of what they would be on the final
day of the season selection Sunday. And I've said this
on all my platforms, including my show on Saturday Nights.
Is I think we just have to change the rankings
from a ranking to bracketology, because that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Is.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
You know, BYU can't be ninth in the rankings, but
they would get that automatic first round by as a
Big twelve champion as the four seed, So just put
them in as the four seed. It's like, that's that's
a small picture issue that is very easy to fix.
And I think as ESPN presents these rankings and you
know whatever, just make it practology. Just give us the
(02:01):
bracket as it would stand if the season ended today.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Which by the way, is Aaron is talking about. There
is an actual grid of one to sixty eight for
those that may not be familiar with the NCAA tournament.
But the bracket doesn't fall into place one to sixty
eight because of a lot of different things. That is
essentially what's going on here. They are giving us there
one to sixty eight, but as you're saying, you got
(02:25):
to present it in bracket form so we actually know
what we could see. Telling me that to your point,
BYU is ninth does not state the fact of how
important it is that BYU is the first Big twelve
team in that ranking, whereas Georgia being third correct on
the screen, or Ohio State being second doesn't necessarily show
where they would fall then in that bracket.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, and I think everybody listening knows. But Oregon and
Ohio State we talked, are they the two best teams
in college football? They could be ranked one and two.
Only one of them will get the first round by
as a as a conference champion.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So there is excitement. There's more are more rankings coming
out later tonight. But you're a huge college football guy. Sure,
as he said, you and Jason Martin Saturday nights here
recapping all of the day's action. I've it's actually one
of the great things with my workload here at Fox
Sports Radio. My day off is Saturday, sure, and so
(03:18):
I get an opportunity to just enjoy college football like
consuming as a fan, like I did for so many years,
and it's it's been a lot of fun. So I
consider myself a college football fan as well. I look
forward to the rankings and then I'll sort everything out,
and I'll look at the bracket like I did every
day last week and be like, oh, this is interesting.
That's interesting. You're saying that there's some drawbacks to what
(03:40):
we're getting, or maybe some stuff that I don't want
to say nintended unintended consequences? Is that maybe a better phrase.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's the perfect verbiage that I would use. Yes, there's
a couple of things that I think stand out is
and you know, listen, this is new for all of us,
so none of us knew coming in, but I think
we all kind of thought, hey, you know, some years,
we can't even really find four teams that are worthy.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
So if you get to twelve, there's not.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Gonna be any scenario where anybody can complain about thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, whatever,
and that's just not gonna be the case. Now, some
of it is it the committee's fault, isn't whatever. But
the one thing I keep harping on with Jason Martin
imbalanced schedules, because this is the unattended consequence is all
of these conferences are so big now and there are
(04:24):
so many teams that there's no way for all of
the best teams to play each other. And you put it,
you know, you put it on a schedule, and you
have no idea who's gonna be good and this and that.
But it's like, you know, you look at uh, let's
look at the Big Ten as a perfect example, Ohio State.
You could criticize any Ryan Day whatever They're gonna have
to play Oregon, Penn State, and Indiana, who are right
(04:46):
now the three best teams outside of Ohio State, Iowa,
Ohio State plays all three. None of the other three
play each other. Like that's kind of crazy to think about.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
UH.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
By the way, the ACC right now SMU of all
s is alone in first place undefeated. Tied for second
place with one loss are Miami and Clemson none of
those three teams play each other BYU Colorado, Iowa State.
In the Big Twelve, none of those teams play each other.
And so that's the first part is you just look
at it big picture. I think it's gonna be really
(05:18):
hard on selection Sunday, where you take, say, in the SEC,
you take a Georgia that I had to play at
ole Miss, at Texas, at at Alabama versus a team
like ole Miss who missed Alabama, who missed Tennessee, who
missed Texas on the schedule. And I know in that
exact example you have the head to head game. But
I just think it's going to make things so much
(05:41):
more complicated than people realize, including, by the way, a
very likely scenario where the SEC is just so jumbled
at the top, which we can get into in a second.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But I want your thoughts one.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, no, it flies in the face of what we're
used to in college football. And when you had the
expansion of teams, I remember there was a conversation going
on on would the SEC break into four different potters?
And instead we did the opposite and said let's just
throw everybody in together. And the Big Ten did the same,
And there's no, there's no matchups that you could get
(06:12):
from two separate divisions back then, even though it was
a year ago. What you were trying to do is
you were trying to put your best foot forward. They
were trying to put your best team there. So if
you could get your top two divisional teams, and even
if the top two teams in the league were in
the same division, like maybe a Michigan and Ohio State,
one of those was gonna win out over the others,
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so then they would have an opportunity to then beat
the opponent from the West and you would move on,
which happened quite a bit in the Big Ten at
the time, but it worked out well for them that
their best foot was put forward. Now with so many spots, Aaron,
it's not about putting your best foot forward. It's about
trying to get as many teams in as you can.
(06:53):
And I actually think that to your point, you're absolutely correct,
but I almost think that they want it this way.
Like if you're the SEC and you're the Big Ten.
Just look at the rankings, look at where the ACC
and the Big twelve are. And it's so funny because
in the summer when there was talk of expanding to
fourteen schools. Yep, there was a pushback of getting the
(07:13):
SEC in the big ten buys in those rounds, and
I actually think that you and I may have had
this discussion of you have to take what you can
get if you're the ACC or the Big twelve, because
right now we're seeing a bracket that doesn't include any
of those schools outside of the automatic buys that they
get for winning their conference. And so with all that
(07:35):
being said, you find it a problem. I think it's
exactly what Tony Pettiti and Greg Sank would want, is
this conversation of all right, yeah, maybe you know Georgia
doesn't play all of these teams whatever, but that's fine
because in the end of the day, that committee's gonna
have to make a decision and we'll see if they'll
put say, pitt ahead of Georgia in that scenario. There's
(07:55):
like no way that those conference commissioners think that would happen.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
But I think it all sounds great on paper until
you get to a scenario where let's say, let me
give you a very simple scenario. Georgia beats Tennessee this weekend.
Georgia is an eleven point favorite, right, so that seems
very feasible that it could happen, that it probably will happen.
So Georgia now well could finish the season ten and two.
They have a loss to Alabama. Alabama, there are only
(08:21):
two s. There are only two SEC games are against
Oklahoma and Vandy. We think they're gonna win out. Alabama
finishes ten and two. Well, they have the head to
head and win over Georgia, but they lost to Tennessee,
and then Tennessee of course could finish ten and two
with the win over Bama the loss to Georgia, and
so yeah, it sounds good. And yes, you may get
more bids than anticipated because the ACC and Big twelve
(08:42):
don't have that competition.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But it is already setting up. I'm already seeing.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It on social media where it's like, you know, I
saw something yesterday. I don't want to criticize the writer
because I don't even think he really thought about it,
but he had a bracket where Alabama was in the
playoff and Tennessee was out, and I saw Tennessee fans
freaking out, saying, how can you leave us out with
the head to head win? And of course his argument
was xyz whatever. I'm not gonna defend or argue whatever.
(09:09):
The point I'm trying to make is, yeah, it sounds good,
you might get that fourth bid as opposed to the
third bid, But especially in the SEC, teams are gonna
get left out, And I think, what's really gonna happen?
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I think we're already seeing this as well.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
We thought the Big brand bias was dead because you
know that fourteen playoff. There was always the year where
Alabama didn't win the SEC or Ohio State didn't win
the Big Ten, and did they really deserve to get in?
But they got in anyway, And there was also conversation.
Now it's gonna be extrapolated because there is once you
get past those conference champions, so much just debate. And
(09:42):
so the school that I'm already seeing Dan hasn't even
lost a game yet, the Indiana Hoosiers, well, wife, they
lose to Ohio State, what's their record gonna look like?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They'll be eleven and one? What will be their best win?
Dah da da da.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Dah this and that, and it's like so, yeah, like
the Big Ten and are still in position to they
have the advantageous pathway.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But I also still.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Don't think it's going to preclude a lot of debate,
a lot of argument teams that believe they should be
in getting in, And I think we're headed towards those
very annoying, you know, Saturday nights, Sunday morning conversations about well,
this team only got in because of the brand bias
and that team got left out.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You know, da da da da, But that no, that
name that.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That is an argument, that is one that previously wasn't
there again because of the four teams. It was still
kind of there even in the Baylor TCU Ohio State
from the first ever college football ranking, in the first
ever playoff that we had, there was the thought that
Ohio State got in because of the bigger brand name
than by than Baylor or TCU. That has always been there.
(10:49):
But I don't know how you can't look back at
college football and say, yeah, there is a jumbled mess
around the ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen rankings, because there always
has been, like there's two decipher who is who is
who is really the better ten and two team. It
doesn't matter if it's in the SEC. If you ever
separated in the conference in the past, you would have
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a difficulty in trying to figure out, all right, who
is really eleven and who is twelve? Now that's the
cutoff point. And the thing that we would say in
saying we would want a playoff is I would feel
much better leaving out the twelfth best team of the
thirteenth best team that I would leaving the fifth fifth team.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I think we thought we were gonna think that. But
let's use an example. Ole Mis gets left out over
a Georgia team that they beat head to head. That's
a very because remember, if Georgia beats Tennessee, they have
a win over Tennessee, that have a win over Text.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I get it. Hey, listen, I'm not an ol missfan.
I don't really care.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
But I just think that we we all thought the
whole art because listen, you're right. You know what, in
any sport, once you get past number one, number two,
number three, whatever, they're all inherently flawed teams. We all
know there's a difference between the ninth best team in
the NFL and the best team in the NFL. But
I do think that was kind of this belief that, like, well,
I mean, if you get left out at number thirteen,
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there's really not an argument that you should have been in.
And it's like, okay, Tell that to an Indiana fan
that finishes eleven and one with Roy lost to Ohio State.
Tell that to an old misfan that beat Georgia head
to head and sees Georgia get in. Tell that to
a Tennessee fan that beat Alabama and sees Alabama get in.
So I listen, you're right, by the way, we could
have a thirty two team playoff. Do it with basketball.
We get to sixty eight teams and we're still arguing
(12:26):
about sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
You Andandy get in and out South Carolina.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I mean this is I was fired up about Saint
John's last year, but you know, like so there's always
gonna be argument. But I do think I really believe
and maybe you just feel differently, and that's totally fine.
I think we all thought, well, once you get to thirteen,
I mean, nobody's gonna really have that strong of an argument,
and I think teams.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Will be no. I the SEC in.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
A way, like the Indiana argument is true one hundred percent.
If they lose to Ohio State, their resume and what
they have done is going to be so interesting up
against the SA. Another reason though, why I don't think
people will feel as bad for any SEC school, aside
from the pompous nature that the fan bases have in
that league, is because of the eight conference games. And
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you know, if you add a ninth, half the league
is getting another loss. And honestly, it may separate more
than not. But if they're unwilling to do it, you
have to be willing to accept the chaos.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
The committee will actually factor that in though they should.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It's a good point, but no, I don't know what
the committee is going to factor in. But my point
is if you're Alabama and you're left out, or if
you're all miss and you're left out, you're in a
league again that will only play eight conference games and
so and the reason that I want to do nine
is again, half the league gets another loss, and you're
trying to get as many teams as you can. And
when you see the rankings, by the way, aside from
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Notre Dame and the Independent and the automatic bid from
Boise State and the automatic pies, it's all big ten
in the SEC anyway. That's who made up the at
large bids. That's where I don't feel bad about the
SEC is because that's the BED and Greg ZANKI it
may matter, but it probably doesn't matter as long as
his member institutions get in that number. Maybe you'd rather
have an Alabama ahead of an Ole miss just saying
(14:09):
on brand wise. But ultimately, if they get five, then
I'm sure they would want six or seven. But I
don't know if he's fighting you know who are you
know who they want in or who they don't want in.
If you're an SEC commissioner.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Here's another interesting variable that probably will be more of
a factor in the SEC than anywhere else. What do
you do about a two loss? Because right now we
have what six teams that all have two losses in
the SEC? Five teams something like that. Somebody's gonna get
in the SEC championship game with two losses. What happens
if they lose and take a third loss? And are
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you put are you are you punting?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Are you punishing them for taking a third loss? Are
you putting them in over over a team that only
has two losses? You know, it's just gonna be I
think it's gonna be a lot murkier and messier than
I think a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I had an idea that I completely threw out and
threw it in the trash because it wouldn't work. But
I thought, how about a Big ten tournament in college football?
You know, if you're having this cross thing, like if
teams aren't playing each other, take your top four teams
and play a tournament. But again, that would add three
more losses to Big ten teams. So there's like no
way that a league would do that, whether it be
the Big Ten, whether it be the ACC, whether it
(15:17):
be the SEC. That it was such a bad idea,
I didn't even want to bring it up, but I
thought that would at least separate on who is what,
because I do agree that the conference championship game actually
maybe more than a curse than a blessing because of
the added loss. But I hope that I hope because
of the state the status of these leagues without separate divisions,
(15:37):
that it's not held against them.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's just difficult for me for it it not to be.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah, all I'll really add is, you know, divisions felt
weird and they didn't make sense, and they were imbalanced.
In most years, the Big Ten East was so much
better than the Big Ten West.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I do think it kind of cleaned up a lot
of the things that are inevitably going at specifically the SEC,
because the Big Ten is pretty straightforward. If Ohio State
wins out, a bunch of teams will have one loss,
all those losses will be to Ohio State, so Ohio
State will get in. But you know, like the SEC,
there's a very easy scenario. And I'll be quick on
this because I know we got other stuff to get to.
(16:16):
We could have seven teams all tied atop the SEC
standings when the regular season ends, and it's not that crazy.
All that has to happen is Georgia has to be
Tennessee this weekend, Texas A and M has to be
Texas at home, and all of a sudden, you have
those four schools Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A, and M
Alabama if they went out, Ole miss if they went out,
and I believe Missouri's the seven seven teams. No, And
(16:39):
it's not like a crazy scenario for it to happen,
and it's just it's gonna be a mess.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Say another game, you know, you want to know what
might you know what my takeaway is when I saw
Georgia lose to Ole Miss, and I know people are
saying it's not the same Georgia team, it's a different
Georgia team.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
They don't believe in Carson Beck. I get all that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But now Georgia is going to go into the playoffs,
you know, sitting there as a a squad that could
be like a ten seed. Yeah, and so if you're
Texas you really want to face Georgia again.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Congrats Notre Dame. You just got in, get your home
playoff game against Georgia.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But I'm even thinking of the top two seats, Like,
if you're Oregon and you're an eight nine, sure in
that matchup, what is your reward getting a Georgia team
because they're in such a mishmash of a mess of
the sec.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Well that's that's That's again another conversation for probably a
different segment. But there's been a hot debate on the
internet about do you actually like, like, if you're Ohio
State and Oregon, is it actually better to lose the
conference championship game get in as the five seed, you
play probably the big the big twelve champ and then it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Would be if you knew that the conference championship game
wasn't going to be held against you, like if that
loss was not gonna you know, drop them down. Because
that's the difficult thing is you don't know if you
lose in that game, if you would still be able.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
To hold on to the number five rating. Fair fair, fair,
fair fair.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So that's but yeah, it absolutely would be I'd much
rather face Boise State and then go up against BYU
and then end up in a se my final, then.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, absolutely, as opposed to Oregon facing the winner of
Alabama whoever.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You know.
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Speaker 3 (18:26):
I appreciate you guys having me.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
You know, I know Doug obviously, you know, as you said,
he was unavailable, so I'm always a pleasure to being
with you guys.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He's on a bus on his way to Western Illinois,
where the green Bay Phoenix will be playing tomorrow. I'm
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We unveiled a couple of weeks ago. It's not for
me to get a little something off my chest. Aaron Torres.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Some have remorse.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I engage, come.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
On, but there's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I think this is the second time this has happened
this season where I had a Gambler pick that failed.
But there was another game on the slates, and I
have all the games to pick from NBA, college basketball,
college football, the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I could pick all.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Of them, and I've been taking for weeks that I
thought Denver could top Kansas City. I just felt it
was such a trap game for the Chiefs, and it
almost happened if it wasn't for the blackfield goal at
the gun errand I would have.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Been right on my Broncos prediction. The only problem with it.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
For our Gambler segment that we do every Friday, I
picked the Bears for some stupid reason I don't know why,
actually had game a reason why, which was a bad reason.
So if you were any handicapper like Jared Smith who
joins the show every single week, you would be oh, Dan,
that was a pretty stupid pick. But I made it anyway,
and I could have got my gambler right if I
just stuck with believing in the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
They didn't have to win.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They just had to cover the eight and a half
or whatever the point spread was, and they did that
by a mile by only losing by two. Even though
they lost on the blocked field goal. I still would
have won on the pick. I believed in Denver for
all these weeks, and when time came to put my
money on the line, I spaced out and didn't do.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It, and he took the Bears instead. That's the word. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
God, they were never in the game, like, there was
never a point worse. Yeah, where You're like, oh, they've
got an opportunity. Yeah, this could be.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
They were never in a nineteen to three game.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I know it's this is Buyer's remorse, not torres remorse.
But I had a similar situation where I saw the
over under point total in the Alabama LSU game and
instantaneously I was like, there's no way that over is hitting.
Then I look at the stats, I think about it
throughout the week. I took the over and within one possession,
I was like, LSU can't look on l them.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
They just and they did it, and they did it.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I wanted to tweet Nuss Meyers, going to show who
the top quarterback in this game?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Was?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Good thing I didn't? Good thing I did not? Well,
he did show it. I mean he just didn't show
that he was the top. He made it very clear,
very very good point.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
His penalty is coaching us the rest of the season.
That's that's that's an old joke. May not match up
to you know how I met your Soto, but still
all right, he's aeron Torres. I'm Dan Beyer Matzi. Did
you hear that the NFL or the NL and al
MVP finalists were announced yesterday?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yes, yes, yes he did.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Ryan Berschinger, resident producer here on Fox Sports Radio, baseball
expert Jason Stewart as well. So three finalists in the
American League and National League announced. For the National League,
Shoheo Tani appears to be the favorite, but Francisco Lindor
and Ktel Marte of the Arizona Diamonbacks also finalists. Any
(21:55):
problems first with those guys being finalists for the National
League honor?
Speaker 7 (22:00):
No, No, Otani and Lindor were the easy choices there. Sure,
let's throw katel Marte into the bunch. You can get
some third place.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It's like that herb right that you season in just
season a little like like who deserves it? Like they're
gonna finish third, they're gonna get the bronze. But yeah,
all right, so Martine, by the way, voting's already done,
so they know the top three and that's that's actually
how it's done. It's not that they're doing them a
favor that they know who the top three are and
those are the three finalists. As for the American League,
(22:31):
Bobby Wood Junior and then a pair of Yankees in
Juan Soto and Aaron Judge Are we right on those
as well?
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Yes, yeah, Judge should run away with it. But unfortunately
for Bobby Wit. Bobby Wit had an incredible season. He
would easily win MVP in most seasons, but Judge just
had a phenomenal year.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Aaron Torres and I. We love college football, we love
the NFL. We love Aaron obviously, he's passion college hoops,
the whole deal. Baseball not my biggest thing. I would say,
maybe not your biggest thing. Now we need bersh and
Manzi and Jason Stewart here.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, I I was not familiar with Kotel Marte's game
before this segment.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
YEA, what that shack means?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
A perfect lead into what we're gonna get to. Jason Stewart.
Do you agree with Ryan Berschinger's award winners? Are you
happy with the whole process?
Speaker 8 (23:18):
No, I'm not happy. So think so major League Baseball
drops the ball in many aspects of their pr and
trying to outreach to younger audiences and try to be
hip the NFL. We've scrutinized the way they do their
award show on the Thursday night before the Friday, when
we're on Radio Row packed with guests, and stuff. MLB
(23:41):
needs to do an award show on the Monday after
the season and just like completely take advantage of all
the eyes and the attention right before the playoffs start
and do the award show. To have it done in
late November makes no sense. Nobody's thinking baseball or talking
about baseball, especially in our space. It's just an another
example of Major League Baseball shooting themselves in the foot
(24:03):
when it comes to being relevant.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You mean, people aren't gonna get excited at six o'clock
Eastern time on a Wednesday, a week before Thanksgiving that
someone's gonna win the Cy Young Award or the al
MVP on a Thursday, a week out from Thanksgiving.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Unless they tell us where Juan Soto's going.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No, You're absolutely right, And I think it is an
opportunity for baseball if they were to put it within
this window, I guess of relevance, it would resonate a
lot more. I saw a breakdown of who won the
nl MVP last year and the year before, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
I forgot I forgot about that. But we could do
that in the National Football League And I think that's
(24:41):
a problem. But it also allows us to I don't know,
have some content here, because who better to judge the
common person or when it comes to the common sports fan,
or maybe just the common person, as it is not me,
not Aaron Torres, not Ryan Bershing or Jason Stewart, montci
Bell or Iowa Sam. But my wife Lisa. I figured
(25:04):
I would put her to the test and how well
she knew the finalist for the American League and National
League Most Valuable Player. So what I did aarin was
last night and I left it for so when she
got up this morning she saw it. I left her
a sheet and I said, here are six names. And
I did not provide the first names. It was blank Otani,
(25:27):
blank Lindore, blank Marte, blank Judge, blank Soto, blank Witt Junior.
And I put the six names to the right. It
wasn't like she had to come up with them out
of thin air. I figured that would be much too difficult.
Match up, match up the name. See how well, to
Jason's point, if you're not cashing in, my wife was
(25:49):
all in on the Dodgers. We were watching all the games.
She was telling me to turn on the Dodger game.
So let's see how well she knew the finalists for
the American League and National League Most Valuable Player awards,
according to my wife Lisa, your nominees in the National
League Dodgers designated hitter according to my wife sho he Otani.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
All right, she was saying, attention, your.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Second nominee for National League Most Valuable Player Mets second baseman,
Aaron Lindor.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Like Aaron Lindor according to my wife Lisa.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And your final finalist for National League Most Valuable Player
second baseman for the Arizona Diamondbacks, Francisco Martee.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
I get it, though, Francisco Marte, you think.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Latin Latin, you know what.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
I get what she was doing, that's what she was
going for.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Trying to match it up. Let's say you can explain
the American League Marzi manning the outfield for the New
York Yankee Bobby Judge.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Bobby Judge. According to my wife Lisa, I was just
thinking as a perfect care.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Also taking part of the Yankees outfield Juan Soto and
rounding out our finalists royal shortstop to tell what Junior
that According to my wife, Uh, Lisa and knowing sports, Yeah, six,
(27:36):
that's me's pretty good batting average right three for three.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Do you think if Aaron Judge had been better in
the World Series she would have gotten.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Now, Hi, I knew she would get o Tani. I
knew that that was gonna be the one. I thought
Aaron Judge was going to be the other one that
she would get. And then I got the list and
I read him in the order, and I saw Aaron Lindor,
and I'm like, yes, yes, Thank goodness, because it also
sets off the domino effect of there's other you know,
there's other matchup. That's why would you try to predict
(28:04):
an NFL draft. If you get one pick wrong, you
likely have also set off three other picks that have
been wrong. But uh so, yeah, she hit three thirty
three in that A L N N L MVP list.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
It seems like she she did know Jan Soto from
the World Series, but then realized she had left herself
with CATL.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
That's what I was thinking, is like, if she knew
Wan Soto from the World Series, you would have thought
she knew Aaron Judge. But Aaron Judge was so bad
in the World Series until the last couple of games,
but then he had to draft five ball whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That it is. Yeah, he's no Bobby Judge. I'll tell
you that much.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Maybe she thought it was Arson.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
She's like, huh Arson Judge.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
But yes, in an indirect way, your wife just proved
me right. Yes, exactly, know me right? Oh okay, give
me a second on those okay, three three months ago,
something that we discussed quin viral. Remember you and Moncey
were hosting, and I brought up the fact that Kaitlyn
(29:04):
Clark was more famous than Aaron Judck and you weren't
having it right.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
You haven't act. Yes, I think if.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
You put Caitlin Clark's name on there in some meshed way,
Lisa would have gotten it right, and she did not
get Aaron Judge right. So in an indirect way, Lisa
three months later proved me right in the viral discussion
that we had.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Can we erase this on the podcast? Is there a
way to do it? I was even Carrie Rhodes that
day was a Yankees fans like, yeah, Kaitlyn Clark's more popular.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I'm like, get out of here. Yeah. We talked about
it for the whole week. Yeah, we did. We had
a debate.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
The department, you know, loves to steal Topics even saved
it for his show with Moncy on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
We did.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
We had a debate on our show, Kaitlyn Clark is
she the most famous under twenty five basketball player in
the world.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
This was about four or five months ago. Her or
Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
At like the peak of Anthony Edwards might be the
new Michael Jordan And I was like, I still think
it's Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, she would know Caitlyn Clark for sure, But would
you know Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You'd think it's the actor. That's who you would think
of Edward Anthony. Yeah, good one, Sam, it's the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox. Yeah, sitting again for Doug Gottlieb
here live ath tireq dot Com Studios. No, we'd love you, Sam.
Were you impressed? Did you know all the names? Would
you have gone six for six?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, you know what, I'm not gonna lie. I just
confuse Starling Marte with Martes. I'm like, there's two Martes
and yeah, yeah, that's how little I know.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
By the way, where can they get the sick podcast
that you? Manci and bo Benz Find.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
It on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, The Sick Podcast, The
Dodger Zone.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Now there it is all right. Get Jason at Jason Stewart.
You can find aeron Torris at Aaron Underscore Torris. You
can find me at Dan Bayer on Fox. It is
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Speaker 6 (30:49):
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Speaker 2 (31:00):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's eron Torres.
I'm Dan Byer sitting in for Doug today. Doug in
the Phoenix on their way take on Western Illinois tomorrow.
I'll bus ride today. So yeah, Doug's on the bus.
We're in Fort Doug. Jason Stewarts here, Iowa Sam hanging
out as well as is Monty Belanos, who will bring
us the press.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
The press.
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Speaker 9 (31:43):
Well, the big story of the day in the NFL
was that the Chicago Bears are making moves. They fired
offensive coordinator Shane Woldron and promoted offensive passing coordinator Thomas Brown.
But it looks as though changes won't be happening in Dallas,
especially to AT and T Stadium. We all just saw
ceed Lamby Blinded by the Light.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
In week ten.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Here is Jerry Jones on that stadium, the currents, everything
we're talking about this week.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Of all of the things that we all need to improve,
that is way down the list of improvement. All I
can say is that stadium was built to feel like
it's outdoors when you're indoors. It's the largest air conditioned
space in the world. Every venue has certain things that
(32:35):
at certain ways and times in the contests can create
an advantage that really goes on the category of home
field advantage. It should be an advantage to the home team,
So I don't want to adjust it. For one reason
is because it is an advantage to us. It has
been an advantage for us to know where the sun is.
(32:57):
I don't want to change that.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Fellas thoughts, this is so absurd.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's it's one thing with his unwillingness. But again, my
biggest issue is it was Daylight Savings coming to an end,
and so the Cowboys, instead of figuring out how they're
gonna get a win without Dak Prescott and how to
stop the Philadelphia Eagles in a huge division game, Jerry
Jones wants them to realize that guess what, we fell
(33:24):
back last week and when our first came back, you
should take the coin toss and take this direction of
the field, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Like unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I blame Daylight Savings ending, and I blame Jerry Jones
for this madness.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I was saying, you want to have in I was
just gonna, hey, Jerry, shut.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Up about the sun. Shut up about the sun.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
No one cares about the sun. I know what that is.
It's from the office, right, yes, come on now, ye son?
Oh it's is it a newer office?
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Sure?
Speaker 9 (34:00):
Like towards the later seasons.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, I got to get more of a reaction, but
at least it was pretty good. That's told me to
play that Ryan's the effort. You're you're thought I was.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Gonna say really quick, it's a funny quote. It also
that's the other like it's not Jerry's fault, you know,
and nothing's ever Jerry's fault, and it's like, I'm the GM,
you know, it's it's what he like, and it's just
it's just the same record over and over. I know
all you guys, you know, you and Doug and Jase
do talk about it every single day. But it's like
it's just it's never his fault. It's always somebody else's fault.
(34:37):
He's the GM.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Like it's just I'm just over it, Like I really
he If if.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You were Dak Prescott or Ceedee Lamb or Micah Parsons
and you said to Jerry, you know what we need,
we need USB ports at our lockers in our locker room,
I think Jerry would be like, absolutely, guess what, hey,
media come in. We have brand new lockers for our team.
They include personalized us B reports for these guys to
(35:01):
you know, have their phones. It would be a request
the players that they would show off. Now the players
are saying can we block the sun? And Jerry's like, uh,
I'm not gonna do it, like what owner is like, Sorry,
can't do it. These owners bend over backwards for their team.
Jerry Jones bends over backwards to provide the Cowboys with
the experience that they have with their training facility and whatnot.
(35:21):
But to not change or to put up a curtain
for one quarter of a game, it's just pure hubris
and idiocy. Yeah, all right, I gotta I got a
Shane Waldron thing too as well.
Speaker 9 (35:34):
Go for it.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
The Bears, you had to do it for optics wise,
but they promote Thomas Brown from their passing you know,
passing coordinator. The Bears have the third worst passing game
when it comes to ya in the national.
Speaker 9 (35:45):
Football So well, I don't know how much time we
really have for this, but I'm gonna play you a
little bit of sound from Fran Brown, Syracuse head football coach,
because I think he handles losses differently than we do.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Honestly, I got like a virtual like when we lose,
I ain't even getting a shower it till early this morning.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I'll just be mad. I just brush my teeth. But
it's like I don't deserve soap. I don't deserve to
do all that. I just I'm just focused on, Like guys,
you don't shower.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
He's a shower after losses.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
He don't deserve it.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
He don't deserve it.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I get the wearing the same sort of shirts or
the underwear. You wash it and you wear it. Then
not showering. It's just wrong. The Syracuse Orange rotten oranges,
all right, And that's the press.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That is the press. Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That was the press.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Keys erin Sores, I'm Dan Byer. It's been fun. I
appreciate you guys having me.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Thank you, Catch Aaron Saturday Nights with Jason Martin and
me with Carrie Roades Sunday. We'll talk to you tomorrow
here on Fox
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