December 27, 2023 • 38 mins
Dan and Kerry in for Doug as they talk about the biggest losers in the history of sports in this week's version of "The Midway". Dan and Kerry talk about the biggest losers in the history of sports in this week's version of "The Midway". Kerry and Dan discuss the Tommy DeVito sensation officially being over in New York.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Happy Wednesday to you getting ready for the new year.
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have a cat. I don't have a dog. Don't have either.
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But if I had a pick, again it was the cat.
But again I don't I don't make these choices. I
got bit by a dog when I was five, so
they kind of made the choice for me. That's why
we went on the cat side of things. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We both have traumatic incidents with the thing that we
don't like, and I think that's kind of part.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Of course, you're just tuning in me getting bit by
a dog has nothing uncarry story of why he's not
a cat person because apparently his cereal at his aunts
was filled with fur balls?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Is that that basically what it is?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I may think just think of like a think of
a cartoon right where you see it's not It wasn't
like a sure there.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Weren't furry flakes and not frosted flakes. Exactly what it was.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It wasn't like a few little pieces of hair. It
was like it was almost like a big fur ball.
Like you said, it was disgusting. It's carved me for life.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh man, listen, I just I know when when anybody
says they're on team cat, everybody just kind of looks
at him as like really, like that's the way that
you chose. By the way, with a two year old,
uh soon to be three this spring, I am resigned
to the fact that we will probably be getting a
dog at some point. Yeah, and you know what, it'll
probably come to that point. I'll be okay with it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'll need if you need some some console and I'm
your guy.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
He's and Carrie Rhodes is on the anti un t
Sean Payton train.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I am.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm actually on the Sean Payton train. I'm all for it,
I am. And you're just thinking it's ego, it's hubris,
it's Sean Payton being Sean Payton, and Russell Wilson's the
one that's got to pay the price for it.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I do, I really do.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I just think he's you know, he's exuding his power
here and he's doing it to the detriment of the team.
I mean, you're not going to win with Jared Stidham
right now, and so if you're saying the season's over,
you know, that's kind of what I feel about what
he's doing, Like the season's over. Somebody has to take
the blame, and you know, Russell's the guy right now.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
If they do win with Jared stiddem, well, they might
win this game. They're playing the Chargers. So the line
dropped two points. It's saying know about the Broncos by three.
It was about five, five and a half, but it
did drop when the news came out that Russell Wilson
was going to be benched. And my whole thought on
it is that this is why you bring in Sean
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Payton because of the investment you made. Not everybody can
make the move to say Russell Wilson, you're not gonna
make it work. The groundwork may have been, let you know,
laid throughout the season. We had heard certain comments, we
had heard certain things. I don't know if the tipping
point was in Detroit, something we'll get into a little
bit later with how bad they played against the Lions
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on that Saturday night and we saw Peyton really give
it to Russell Wilson on the sideline. But again, Russell
Wilson going to be benched. And what you're hearing a
lot of from the insiders is that this is a
smart business decision because it will protect Wilson from injury
and that way the Broncos aren't going to be on
the hook for a salary in twenty twenty four. But
what that also means is that the future of the
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Denver Broncos is not going to include Russell Wilson after
this offseason. So something that we continued to talk about.
But again, just because it's holiday time, it is a Wednesday,
and it's time for it's.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Not getting it's time for.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
The Midway.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Every Wednesday Carrier Roads.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
This idea cooked up by our executive producer, Jason Stewart,
the man and the guy who basically comes up with
all of these topics, presents another one for all of
us to get involved in and just kind of shoot
the bull.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Jason Stewart, the floor is yours.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
A very savvy way of doing this, because Dan came
up with this idea. So I guess I'll deliver your
idea in the segment that I created. Yes, about got
about that?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Usually what happens is Doug says that Doug comes up
with all the ideas, and in the segment that Jason created, Right,
that's usually what happened.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Yes, and give me correct me if I'm wrong. I
think you want to just kind of discuss at a
great topic things associated with losing and bad franchises, or
we just talk about losing or bad franchises. What first
comes to mind?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
How about this? How about losers?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know, like when you're thinking about losers, this on
the heels of the Pistons losing twenty seven in a row,
which I just love going to the NBA standings and
seeing l twenty seven like that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
It's truly awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
If you lose twenty seven in a row. Is that bad?
It's hard to do if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
All the NBA teams that take nights off and stuff,
it's amazing to not just scape by one night.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It takes a level of trying to continue that, right,
sure seems like it.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And again, this streak is amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Not only have they played one one possession game like
one final score ended up being a one possession game,
only two of them were within five points. There were
some six point games, including last night, along the stretch,
but there was never a.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Four point game. There were only two games that.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Were within the Pistons were within five points of winning,
and only one of those a one possession game, and
that was a two point loss to Milwaukee during this stretch.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It's crazy, that's nuts.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So when you think of losers, I'm sorry, and it
still probably win a title, it's going to be this,
But there's just no bigger loser than the Clippers. And
I know that the narrative has changed over the last
decade or so, but when you just think of when
you go really look back and take a step back
and think of all sports there was one thing that
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you could always rely on, and that was the Clippers thinking.
And you may see roller coasters of teams being good
and then being bad, but there was always this given
for so long and I don't think that they've shed
it yet, despite the name brands that they have, the players,
they have, the playoff appearances. I just still think of
the Clippers as that losing organization. And it may be
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because they're in the shadow of the Lakers, But when
I think losing teams, losing franchises losers, I think of
the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That's a pretty pretty bowl statement, Dan, because they've had
some you know, they've been winning here. Obviously they haven't
won the Ultimate Prize yet, but yeah, it's there was
so much built up. Yeah, there was so much built up.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I gottat know.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
If McDonald's is the best fast food restaurant, it is not,
but because there is so much built up, Yeah, you're
just always like, it's always an option, it always is,
no matter what. And I think that I'm not calling
McDonald's losers. That are their special coke or diet coke,
whatever they have.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, you know what, you know, what is a lothing
ingredient or a losing component of McDonald's and I being
mcdonald'sin is probably college. But the ice cream machine never works,
so that's that's a loss. It is always down and
that's a fact. So we want to talk about losers,
let's talking about McDonald's ice cream machine.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It is never in order. That's not on my bingo
cards here. It is out of order. That's what That's
a loser.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Jason Stewart, I'm gonna stick with the NBA just because
we're on this. I think what's worse than the losses,
what's worse than losing on the court is being uninteresting
and boring. And I would I would make an argument
that the most nondescript team in sports is the Washington Wizards.
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I think we did this thing a few weeks ago
where it's like, what is the what is the Siberia
in sports? Like if you ship a guy to wherever,
what is the equivalent to Siberia? And I think it
was on the Jordan Poole thing the Wizards, like nobody
talks about him, nobody cares about them. I'd never known
a Wizards fan.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, you know two facts about what you're saying, right,
now and which would make it true is number one,
they're moving from DC to Virginia, so there, you know,
there's a lot of that going on. There's some truth
to that. I think Washington's tired of them. And then
number two, you have Chris stock porzingis right, had a
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career high season in Washington, a bounced back season where
you should have been an All Star, but nobody watched
the game. And now he's in Boston doing the same thing.
And now he's he's been touted as one of the
best players in the league again.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
So yes, it would ring true there, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And I would think that a team from a market
like that wouldn't be considered a losers because a loser
for their just nondescript and you calling it Siberia. But
maybe because they're in the mix, and because the Commanders
are there and the Nationals are there and the Capitals are.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
There, that they even get lost.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
In the shuffle of that malaise, like whether they're not
even making a dent in you know, in a spot
where I know the Nationals won the World Series four
years ago, it seems like a long four years ago.
Commanders have been irrelevant, you know, for a long time,
so maybe that would be the point. Like I always
thought it would be like Siberia truly would be like
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a one city sport team, but maybe it is from
the team that has multiple multiple major sports franchises.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Let me think about a notorious franchise known for losing.
Is it okay for me top in here?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah? Go ahead, I think it's I think it could.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Could you could lend that to the Cleveland bri And
obviously they're winning right now, have had a real winner
in a while. They've been a franchise known for not
being able to find that franchise quarterback to get them
over the hump. They've had a lot of them come in,
a lot of them blow away through the wind that
on the Cleveland waters and the windy city over there.
(10:18):
I know that Chicago, but it's still windy.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
And Cleveland, so I would say Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I'd say Cleveland has been notorious for losing, and now
they're maybe on the uptick, so hopefully that changes.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I think that this is maybe unfair, and I don't
know if Isaac long Crown wants in on this. Yeah, Isaac,
go ahead, Before I give you mind. Lorena, you're obviously
welcome as well.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Isaac.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Well, you guys are in discussing all these Washington teams,
you missed the most obvious one, the Washington Generals, the
foil of the.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Harlem Globe Trottles.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Trotters are just in.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
The Washington Generals have just defeated the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Jason actually made a great point about you know, it's
actually worse to be boring and non discrire. I would say,
ever since the mid to late eighties when Dominique Wilkins
was starring, when have we ever talked about the Atlanta Hawks?
Now you want to talk about right, well, right, yeah,
you want to talk about nondescript franchises. They're not necessarily great,
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they're not necessarily terrible. They're just not interesting. So I'd
actually go to the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
That's that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's not bad because even when they were good, they
had their their for some of Jeff Tigue and al
will safe Horford.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Yeah, see kind of add something to Terry's I think
that the Browns are probably the best example of this
entire thing, because especially since nineteen ninety nine, because up
until then they were kind of a proud franchise that
had some NFL titles way back in the day, but
ninety nine to now they've just been losers. And the
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even the choice to sign or trade for Deshaun Watson
was a loser move. They had an Owen sixteen season.
By definition, they're loser. I don't know if you could
top that choice.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think that we're a prisoner of the moment, and
we forget about the struggles of the Lions. I know, like, yeah,
you know, because they were truly the first one the
Owen sixteen and they they were the eight Lions. They
were the ones to get Owen sixteen. Sure we had
the Buccaneers with Owen fourteen, but get to that sixteen
Mark Cleveland wasn't even the first one to do it.
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And I think now we look at the Lions because
they are headed to the postseason and we want to
move that, you know, to the side. But again, they're
going to host a playoff game for the first time
in twenty nine seasons coming up this year, so I
think the Lions would be one. I didn't want to
get personal on this, but I do have data to
back it up, and it stays in the NFL. I
did think of Archie Manning and it may not be
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fair because Archie Manning as a person isn't a loser,
but as a quarterback when you think of his playing career,
that was one and then I just wanted to make
sure that my data was correct, and it is correct.
He is the lowest winning percentage of any quarterback in
the National Football League of.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Two sixty two with the Saints.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes, and that's and you know you can put the
Saints as you know, part of that as well. And
it may not be fair. And obviously Archie's legacy is
is Peyton and Eli and and what you've got. But
when you're talking about losing games, no one did it
worse than Archie Manning is a quarterback. Again not personal,
but you think of the Eights, you think of the
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bags over their heads and what they were trying to do.
That was the time during the you know, in the
National Football League that was real and Archie Manning was
the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Then what it all changed with Son Peyton Kane. So yeah,
there it is.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
It all goes back to Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Mora gets a little of the uh, you know, the
cap you know with that one. Lorena you know any
losers in your life and you want to you.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Want to.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Now?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, besides you, guys, I don't have much on my lisz.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
That dude, it wasn't willing to travel thirty minutes to
pick you up for a date. That's that's a loser, right. Yeah, no,
but that hasn't even happened lately. I'm chilling.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
I'm chilling big time right now. Maybe the guy who
broke into my car and stole my stuff, he's a loser.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, was that you?
Speaker 6 (14:17):
I get the car?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Gee?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
We got a company email. That's someone at Fox Sports
Radio at their car bring, and we've now revealed we
revealed that it was Lorena. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to
hear that. I will say you notice one thing. We
didn't mention any baseball teams, because the lovable losers are
no more, you know, with the Cubs and they're winning
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the title. I think that would have been one automatically
that we would have gone to. But the World Series
seven years ago ends up moving that aside. They were
the lovable losers for a reason, and so I think
that that's why we maybe ended up slanting towards football
or slanting towards basketball all of this. Yeah, there's a
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lot of losing college college football. I think Northwestern had
it for a while, but honestly, I think Vanderbilt's probably
the school that you would look because not only in listen,
it's tough enough to win college football games and then
to do it in the SEC when you're so like
when I think of like programs and losing programs, Kansas
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would have been it, but heck they will go and
win the Guaranteed Rate Bowl. Last night against UNLB, they're
on the upswing. I'd give Vandy football. I guess my nomination. Yeah, yeah,
it's that was hard. When college football, it's just so
many teams that you don't you kind of Louisville, Yeah,
lay Ball tonighteenth in the country.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Maybe that is true. All right, that's the midway for
it today. It was fun talking to losers.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
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chills cats over dogs. So that was thank goodness for that.
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moment of silence on radio because it's dead air, but
I should take my hat off in respect that the
Tommy DeVito era in New York is over. Trod Taylor
name the starting quarterback of the New York Giants today
in place of Tommy DeVito. Why do you say it? Yeah?
For good about it. He was gonna be done eventually.
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And you know, I think we talked about it now.
I was like, it's his lisanity moment. It was fun,
it was cute. They weren't playing anybody. They got some wins,
but yeah, I mean, he wasn't the long term answer
there for the Giants. And so you know, Tyrod proven
veteran guy that can play and you know, you know whatever,
move on and give him some snaps.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
This is my thoughts on the deal.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And we talked a little bit about this myself, Jason
and Doug Gottlieb were in for the Dan Patrick Show yesterday.
We didn't get to dive deep into this, but I
do think that it was a real thing. I feel
the Giants became victims of the Tommy DeVito story. And
when you really step back and look at it, was
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Tommy DeVito going to be the long term answer for
the New York Giants. No, he was not going to be.
Was he going to, through his play be able to
replace and injured Daniel Jones, No, that was not going
to happen. The next quarterback of the Giants is probably
not on the roster right now. So the Giants and
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you can look at the Vito's numbers, and while they
are respectable, I don't know if they got to the
point carry where you said to yourself, we want this
more than we want that. And that is the veteran
to Rod Taylor, And when Jones got hurt earlier in
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the season, Taylor ended up filling in for him, and
so Taylor gets hurt and then they have no other options,
so they go to Tommy DeVito and the era starts,
by the way, not in great fashion, like it was
not good. It was not good early. Then as the
season got on and he got more experience, and no
disrespect to Tommy DeVito, he played better, But at no point,
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even in the scenario where they were winning games, should
he have been playing over to Rod Taylor. And that's
why I think that the Giants were victim into the
whole Devido story that we all got wrapped up into,
and the whole hand gesture and the hey and the
Italian stuff and all the craze. Yeah, there was no
point in that whole range where Tommy DeVito is a
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better option than Torod Taylor for winning football games. Way,
and Tarrod Taylor came back from ir and served as
DeVito's backup in a win over the Packers, in a
loss to the Saints, and then last week when they
ended up the de Vito era ends up being over there.
So that's the point, and that would be against the
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egos that we saw on Christmas Day. That's the point
where I just I feel like the Giants made this
move almost in a way to better their draft position
and to continue this story than to actually try to
win football games, because Torod Taylor would have been their
better option.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Tarrod Taylor was a better option leaps and bounds. But again,
we're prisoners of the moment right in today's society. If
it's a cool story, we're all about it. You can
look at Tommy DeVito's stats during those wins and you
could tell it wasn't a out de Vito, right, the
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story was cool, and I'm all about, you know, kids
getting their chance to shine and hopefully being able to
be a backup somewhere else, or even staying in the
Giants and making money and making the living. But you
could see the first game he came in in relief
for Tyrod Taylor, he threw the ball once like it
wasn't you know what I mean, Like there was no
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there was no confidence in what this guy could do
on the field.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And so, you know, to get to where we are now,
it's just it's crazy. And the first game that he
filled in was their loss to the Jets. He went
two of seven for negative one yards. Then against the
Raiders was fifteen of twenty. They were blown out, he
played better at the end of that game, and then
they were destroyed by the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Brian Dable said today that de Vito earned the right
to start from even when Taylor was healthy, based on
his performances against the Patriots and based on his performance
against the Commanders. He was seventeen or twenty five for
one hundred and ninety one yards in one touchdown against
New England. That proves into a very nice passer rating
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of one oh three point nine. Yes the week before
and against Washington again, the Commanders turned the ball over
six times in that game, but still Devido through for
two hundred and forty six yards three touchdowns a passer
rating of one thirty seven point seven. The reason why
these numbers are important is because Brian Dabole can point
to it and say, this is why we started him,
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for sure, this is why we continue to start him.
But the reason that you would continue to start him
would be to either maybe he's got a future as
your quarterback, or maybe this is the best option, well
at least not the best option to Toronto Taylor. So
that's out of the way and he's not going to
be your future quarterback, So that the only way that
they can justify it, but they can't say it is
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that they were playing into everything. And honestly, when the
Giants are having as awful of a year as they
have been, the coaching staff in the front office probably
could use something to take the heat off them. If
you benched during the the Vito craze, you're getting more
heat even though you're making the right decision for sure.
So like, I feel that the Giants caved in having
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Tommy DeVito start these games because of the craze that
was going on, and then they were able to let
it play out, and since the season was lost, they
could allow that to happen. Now they've come back to
their senses and realized that Tarrod Taylor is their best
option to start at quarterback.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, I love that. I love that take. It's it's
true too.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I mean again, you're in the lost season, in a
season where you know, some people thought they had a
chance to be good.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I thought they would miss the playoffs, even with the
healthy Daniel Jones. I said that early on. But when
you get to a point of, like you said, the
era you start having, you know, some clicks, you have
more fans come to the game, you have more people
interested in what you're doing, and so that is a
little mini win.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You have jersey shales. Yeah, you have an agent who's
now a former agent. I mean, heck, one of our
tech producers bought a Tommy DeVito jersey. No way, Yeah, Chris,
it's the Lions fan.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah. Yeah, Chris a Tommy DeVito jersey. And I'll tell
you what, he was not alone. There are other people
that brought it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And there's gonna be a point where we'll look back
and we'll laugh and we'll see the jersey and we'll
remember Tommy DeVito. By the way, none of this meant
to discredit Tommy DeVito, which I know sounds like we're
totally discrediting Tommy DeVito. It's just the fact that I
think that Brian Dabole and the Giants had alterior motives
in continuing the story. They weren't going to make the
playoffs if if they were the ones to bench DeVito,
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they look like the bad guys.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
They look like the grinch.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
They allowed the story to continue and take care of itself,
and now they're doing the right thing with Rod Taylor.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
The only DAVIDO that I acknowledges Danny, So I mean
that's why I am.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Apparently it is with Jason too, because at every rundown
for the last week it was Anny DeVito so much.
Jason can vouch for this. I said it, go, are
you purposely writing Danny DeVito? I said that to you yesterday.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Right, It's like it's it's one of those mind blocks.
I think we all just kind of get stuck on
that one thing that you just either misname or misspell continuously.
And Danny DeVito is my sticking point. By the way,
best Danny DeVito movie was when he was in Twins
with Arnold Great.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I talk about that all the time. A lot of
people don't have to be talking about wat Wins all
the time. I do, because they're doing a new one
that a lot of people don't know about yet, but
they're actually doing a remake.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
And guess who the third?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Should I say this on, guess who the third? Because
there's going to be triplets now, and it's going to
be another person added on to that. And guess who
that person is it is?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah? Wait, so it's it's schwartzene Er and Devido and
and one more.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
And right, now I don't know if they recast it
or not, but at this moment, it's supposed to be
Tracy Morgan because remember, if you're thinking about the concept
of twins, they're not, you know, they were genetically made,
and so the third one could be, you know, a
person of color, and so you talk about.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Actually called twins to triplets.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's gonna be yeah, it's it's gonna be twins right now,
and it's gonna be twins too, but yeah, you're gonna
have the whole doctor concoction thing that happens to be
there's more more of them, so they find more more
of that particular.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I feel like this is et and entertainment today.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'm dropping bomb shales on you guys right now.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
You didn't know that, Uh he's carry roads. I'm Dan Byer.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Joe Flacco has been dropping bombs on opposing defenses, and
the Browns are in the thick of things. I know
you're pumped about it. It's gonna get your thoughts on that.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I got the.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Update, Dan, Sorry, So it would have been called triplets, Jason,
And right now they're saying it's in the holding pattern.
So something happened, but it was it was gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Wow. Yeah, I'm trying to think of which which of
those actors are bigger need of a career resuscitation. Morgan's
actually been been he's cool.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But Schwarzenegger, well, I don't think they need a resascitation
because I think Schwarzenegger is getting a lot of love
off of the Netflix dock.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, and the Vito on you know, It's Always Sunny
is got.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Totally missed out? Serious? Have you guys ever seen an
episode of that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I've watched a few episodes. Yeah, I'm not I'm not
an avid watcher, but yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
You're right, and I think's got what the subway at.
So he's got some money coming.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
This reminds me of the time where I was at
breaking breaking Hollywood news here on Fox Sports Radio. I
may have told this story. I was at the driving
range and I showed up and I broke the news
to everyone that Tom Brady was going to retire, and
so this was a big deal. This was the first time. Okay,
(27:52):
this is the first time I was going to retire.
Not the official but the first time. So, you know,
just was in my car and I was going to
go and hit some golf balls, and so I told
everybody on the range and here in southern California, a
lot of people from a lot of different walks of life,
and there's someone who works, you know, in movies, and
they go, yeah, they're shooting a movie with Brady. And
it's this this plotline where like these four old ladies yeah,
(28:16):
love Tom Brady and then become the biggest fan. And
I'm listening to this and like, this movie really sounds
like it sucks, like there's no like I didn't ever
expect it to come to light. And then Brady unretires
and then we find out later that offseason that it
was breaking news that there was gonna be this whole
movie about Tom Brady, and I felt like I completely
(28:36):
dropped the ball because I didn't realize that from the
synopsis of the movie, which sounded like it's stunk. Then
I would want to put my name on that, to
be like, hey, Tom Brady's going to be filming a
movie with, you know, because I didn't know what the
who the ladies were, you.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Know, at the time.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And then it ends up being pretty popular and you
got you know, big names in the movie and the
whole deal. So I felt like I dropped the ball
on that that breaking news entertainment Tonight style. I could
have been acture up on that. I had, I actually had.
I actually had the audition for that, really, and you
didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I did not want to do Ady for Brady, No,
not a chance.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
But you did audition. I did not.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You did not do the sent me the audition and
I was like, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And you're like, You're gonna play the role of defensive
back burn bribe Brady and you're.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Like, look at this video. I'm good.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Look at this video. Look at me guarding Gronk here
right right. I did not want that at all. No,
it did not sound fun. And I actually sat in
the theater and watched it with my with my girl
at the time, and I was like, no, this is
I could have went to another movement for ship.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Did you're so? Did you face Joe Flacco in your career?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I always forget your your window and I told you
this early. Yeah you're playing window. He was definitely there
when I was playing. But I don't know if I
don't It wasn't memorable enough. How crazy is it that
he's got his team in the thick of things. Uh
and his team. How crazy is it that it's the
Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I love it, And he's about to play his play
its former team, hopefully not.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And not the real former team that we think of,
we think, we think he's there. Yeah, it could be
an opportunity in the playoffs. But then tomorrow night they've
got the Jets, a team that has been looking for
a quarterback all season long and had Flacco on the
fold last year. Flaco is saying today, no ill will towards
the Jets because they didn't reach out to him or
want to bring him back. Probably better because now he's
(30:29):
about to be in the postseason with the Cleveland Browns.
It is crazy being a fantasy football you know, junkie
like I am. And we've got our podcast that I
do with Mike Harmon and Ryan Berschinger, and you know,
Flacco has been a name that we've actually talked about
in the last couple of weeks and now it's winning
time in the playoffs. Who would have thought at the
beginning of the year, let alone at the midway point
of the year, that your fantasy season could be hinging
(30:51):
on whether you play Joe Flacco in Week seventeen against
the New York Jets. But that's where we are just
crazy story. But like the Tommy you know, a story,
like all good things have to come to an end.
I'm curious to see where this comes to it. And
for a Cleveland Brown's squad that could do some damage
for all, Well, Flacco's playing.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Right now, you know how. You know that's one of
my sleeper teams. And that's somebody a team that I
really think can do damage and I think can win
a couple of games in the playoffs. And yeah, I
I mean the thing with Flacco is and what he
has done for them, he he does not care. He's
throwing the ball, he's throwing the ball down the field.
He's trying to make plays. He's not he's not dinking
(31:29):
and duncan. He's trying to trying to win games. And
I think that's what they needed.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
He shouldn't care because if they know. And the reason
I say that is because if you were to put
Dorian Thompson Robinson in Dorrian Thompson Robinson does care about
taking care of the football exactly like that in the
any and he should. He's a young quarterback and you
don't want to make stupid plays. And and and even
though he's dynamic, there's you know, things that you know
you could have done that that that's why they would
(31:55):
have turned to him in that situation, but instead they
turned to Flacco, and Flaccos didn't carry. He was out
a couch three months ago, and that's that's why they
brought him in. He's carry roads. I'm dampire. We Oh,
Jason Stewart is here carry?
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Uh? What were you doing October thirtieth, twenty eleven, because
I see that you played in seven games?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Cardinals played the Ravens on October thirtieth, twenty eleven.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yep, I was out. I fractured my fifth meta tarsal
in my left foot, so I was out. That's probably
why I don't remember the game. There you go, did Flacco?
I was probably flying planes at that time?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Did the flying planes? I got? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I was working on my pilot's license while I was
out with.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
A broken foot. Yes, I was, oh, geez, yeah, does
that matter? Does your foot need to be Is it
okay if it's broken? A fly plane?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Well, I was starting the I think the healing process
at that point.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Love hearing this right now.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
No, they know my defensive coordinator Ray Horton at the
time he was he actually referred referred it to.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, how did Flacco do that game?
Do we have a do you have stats?
Speaker 6 (32:59):
The Ravens one thirty to twenty seven. So it was
a nail bier for sure. Let me get Flacco stats.
Maybe we'll hit it on the other hold on a
second thirty one of fifty one for three thirty six
because now here I was out.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, because Carry was not playing.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
That's why it would have been a different story if
you would have been in Uh. And again he wasn't
in eighty for Brady Carry Roads. Not only was not
in it, he didn't want to audition for it. Hit
him up back Carry twenty five Roads. You can find
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Speaker 4 (34:15):
Gonna be called Triplets.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So Jason was right, it was I didn't see that
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Speaker 3 (35:06):
Would that be one of the biggest accomplishments in sports
history If when John Moran comes back, they just win
the rest of their games, for the rest.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Of their way, it would be It would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
But I there's something to it that just doesn't feel
right that they should get immediate success, Like I still
don't know if John Moran has learned anything from anything
that's going on. And that's the problem that I feel
with this of even just after the game winner and
win number one, you know, the keeping receipts and well,
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you're the one that.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Needed to learn something we didn't.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
It's not you know, it has nothing to do about
anything but that for sure. That's the thing that worries me.
In Denver, they're gonna be worried about who's going to
be the quarterback of the future, because Russell Wilson is
likely not going to be. He's not going to be
their quarterback of the present bench today by head coach
Sean Payton Peyton. We're going to hear from him in
a little while here on Fox Sports Radio. But right
(36:02):
now we're going to hear from one of our great
voices here on FSR in a segment we like to.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Call and now.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Sayahn Cowhard weighing in on the benching of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 9 (36:16):
One of the things I have noticed in this relationship.
Number one, the signing of Stidham was to me bizarre,
but that told me Sean Payton had seen enough, discussed enough,
and knew this was a problematic relationship. The second thing
is when I watch Denver games, and I really noticed
(36:37):
it in the last couple of weeks, as Russell Wilson
has struggled, Russell's smaller TUA has acknowledged honestly, he at
times has trouble seeing over the offensive line. Kyler Murray's
greatest success is often moving outside of the pocket. Russell
Wilson's career is highlighted by rainbow throws up the sideline
(36:58):
and moving around a lot and making plays out of
the pocket. But if you watch Russell Wilson in the pocket,
it is something I would argue that he struggles to
see downfield between the hashmarks. I saw it again this weekend.
Denver's got very few twenty twenty five yard completions. And
they have Courtland Sutton and they have Jerry Judy. Those
(37:19):
are fast guys that can get open. They have very
few middle of the field completions. It's sideline stuff. Russell
escaping the pocket and going it deep. And the Brady's
and the Mannings and the big Bends and the great
ones live in the middle of the field.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Eat it alive.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
Mahomes eats it alive.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I was telling you, Kerry that I look back at
the Saints in those glory days with them of Robert Meetcham,
Deverie Henderson, Marcus Colston getting the ball in the middle
of the field, Colston maybe stopping at fifteen yards getting
a pass enormous targets by the way, Meetscham and Henderson
doing their stuff downfield. I don't think that the person
(38:00):
and no matches up with what the Saints had to
what Denver has had either.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, I agree, And I also think that if you're
a savant at the coaching position or the offensive position,
you give your guy a chance to succeed in a
way that may not fit your mole. You have to
be a little flexible.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You are not flexible in your stance that this is
Sean Payton being Sean Payton. Yes, and that's why we've
got to this point. And I think that Sean Payton
has every reason to be Sean Payton. And I think
that's why Sean Payton was brought in. There are very
few coaches who walk like Sean Payton. That chest is out,
that chest is out. I also think that he probably
(38:37):
does have problems reading, so he's got his little cheaters on.
But I also think it makes him look smarter on
the sidelines as well. Is that why Sean Payton knows
who he is? He's carry rhades. I'm Dan Byer. It's
been the Doug Gottlieb Show. We're going to stick around
and react and hear from Sean Payton and why he
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Happy Wednesday to you getting ready for the new year.
Hit carry up at Carry twenty five Roads. You can
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have a cat. I don't have a dog. Don't have either.
(00:40):
But if I had a pick, again it was the cat.
But again I don't I don't make these choices. I
got bit by a dog when I was five, so
they kind of made the choice for me. That's why
we went on the cat side of things. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We both have traumatic incidents with the thing that we
don't like, and I think that's kind of part.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Of course, you're just tuning in me getting bit by
a dog has nothing uncarry story of why he's not
a cat person because apparently his cereal at his aunts
was filled with fur balls?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Is that that basically what it is?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I may think just think of like a think of
a cartoon right where you see it's not It wasn't
like a sure there.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Weren't furry flakes and not frosted flakes. Exactly what it was.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It wasn't like a few little pieces of hair. It
was like it was almost like a big fur ball.
Like you said, it was disgusting. It's carved me for life.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh man, listen, I just I know when when anybody
says they're on team cat, everybody just kind of looks
at him as like really, like that's the way that
you chose. By the way, with a two year old,
uh soon to be three this spring, I am resigned
to the fact that we will probably be getting a
dog at some point. Yeah, and you know what, it'll
probably come to that point. I'll be okay with it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'll need if you need some some console and I'm
your guy.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
He's and Carrie Rhodes is on the anti un t
Sean Payton train.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I am.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm actually on the Sean Payton train. I'm all for it,
I am. And you're just thinking it's ego, it's hubris,
it's Sean Payton being Sean Payton, and Russell Wilson's the
one that's got to pay the price for it.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I do, I really do.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I just think he's you know, he's exuding his power
here and he's doing it to the detriment of the team.
I mean, you're not going to win with Jared Stidham
right now, and so if you're saying the season's over,
you know, that's kind of what I feel about what
he's doing, Like the season's over. Somebody has to take
the blame, and you know, Russell's the guy right now.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
If they do win with Jared stiddem, well, they might
win this game. They're playing the Chargers. So the line
dropped two points. It's saying know about the Broncos by three.
It was about five, five and a half, but it
did drop when the news came out that Russell Wilson
was going to be benched. And my whole thought on
it is that this is why you bring in Sean
(02:56):
Payton because of the investment you made. Not everybody can
make the move to say Russell Wilson, you're not gonna
make it work. The groundwork may have been, let you know,
laid throughout the season. We had heard certain comments, we
had heard certain things. I don't know if the tipping
point was in Detroit, something we'll get into a little
bit later with how bad they played against the Lions
(03:18):
on that Saturday night and we saw Peyton really give
it to Russell Wilson on the sideline. But again, Russell
Wilson going to be benched. And what you're hearing a
lot of from the insiders is that this is a
smart business decision because it will protect Wilson from injury
and that way the Broncos aren't going to be on
the hook for a salary in twenty twenty four. But
what that also means is that the future of the
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Denver Broncos is not going to include Russell Wilson after
this offseason. So something that we continued to talk about.
But again, just because it's holiday time, it is a Wednesday,
and it's time for it's.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Not getting it's time for.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
The Midway.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Every Wednesday Carrier Roads.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
This idea cooked up by our executive producer, Jason Stewart,
the man and the guy who basically comes up with
all of these topics, presents another one for all of
us to get involved in and just kind of shoot
the bull.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Jason Stewart, the floor is yours.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
A very savvy way of doing this, because Dan came
up with this idea. So I guess I'll deliver your
idea in the segment that I created. Yes, about got
about that?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Usually what happens is Doug says that Doug comes up
with all the ideas, and in the segment that Jason created, Right,
that's usually what happened.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Yes, and give me correct me if I'm wrong. I
think you want to just kind of discuss at a
great topic things associated with losing and bad franchises, or
we just talk about losing or bad franchises. What first
comes to mind?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
How about this? How about losers?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know, like when you're thinking about losers, this on
the heels of the Pistons losing twenty seven in a row,
which I just love going to the NBA standings and
seeing l twenty seven like that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
It's truly awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
If you lose twenty seven in a row. Is that bad?
It's hard to do if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
All the NBA teams that take nights off and stuff,
it's amazing to not just scape by one night.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It takes a level of trying to continue that, right,
sure seems like it.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And again, this streak is amazing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Not only have they played one one possession game like
one final score ended up being a one possession game,
only two of them were within five points. There were
some six point games, including last night, along the stretch,
but there was never a.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Four point game. There were only two games that.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Were within the Pistons were within five points of winning,
and only one of those a one possession game, and
that was a two point loss to Milwaukee during this stretch.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It's crazy, that's nuts.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So when you think of losers, I'm sorry, and it
still probably win a title, it's going to be this,
But there's just no bigger loser than the Clippers. And
I know that the narrative has changed over the last
decade or so, but when you just think of when
you go really look back and take a step back
and think of all sports there was one thing that
(06:17):
you could always rely on, and that was the Clippers thinking.
And you may see roller coasters of teams being good
and then being bad, but there was always this given
for so long and I don't think that they've shed
it yet, despite the name brands that they have, the players,
they have, the playoff appearances. I just still think of
the Clippers as that losing organization. And it may be
(06:38):
because they're in the shadow of the Lakers, But when
I think losing teams, losing franchises losers, I think of
the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That's a pretty pretty bowl statement, Dan, because they've had
some you know, they've been winning here. Obviously they haven't
won the Ultimate Prize yet, but yeah, it's there was
so much built up. Yeah, there was so much built up.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I gottat know.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
If McDonald's is the best fast food restaurant, it is not,
but because there is so much built up, Yeah, you're
just always like, it's always an option, it always is,
no matter what. And I think that I'm not calling
McDonald's losers. That are their special coke or diet coke,
whatever they have.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, you know what, you know, what is a lothing
ingredient or a losing component of McDonald's and I being
mcdonald'sin is probably college. But the ice cream machine never works,
so that's that's a loss. It is always down and
that's a fact. So we want to talk about losers,
let's talking about McDonald's ice cream machine.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It is never in order. That's not on my bingo
cards here. It is out of order. That's what That's
a loser.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Jason Stewart, I'm gonna stick with the NBA just because
we're on this. I think what's worse than the losses,
what's worse than losing on the court is being uninteresting
and boring. And I would I would make an argument
that the most nondescript team in sports is the Washington Wizards.
(08:06):
I think we did this thing a few weeks ago
where it's like, what is the what is the Siberia
in sports? Like if you ship a guy to wherever,
what is the equivalent to Siberia? And I think it
was on the Jordan Poole thing the Wizards, like nobody
talks about him, nobody cares about them. I'd never known
a Wizards fan.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, you know two facts about what you're saying, right,
now and which would make it true is number one,
they're moving from DC to Virginia, so there, you know,
there's a lot of that going on. There's some truth
to that. I think Washington's tired of them. And then
number two, you have Chris stock porzingis right, had a
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career high season in Washington, a bounced back season where
you should have been an All Star, but nobody watched
the game. And now he's in Boston doing the same thing.
And now he's he's been touted as one of the
best players in the league again.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
So yes, it would ring true there, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And I would think that a team from a market
like that wouldn't be considered a losers because a loser
for their just nondescript and you calling it Siberia. But
maybe because they're in the mix, and because the Commanders
are there and the Nationals are there and the Capitals are.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
There, that they even get lost.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
In the shuffle of that malaise, like whether they're not
even making a dent in you know, in a spot
where I know the Nationals won the World Series four
years ago, it seems like a long four years ago.
Commanders have been irrelevant, you know, for a long time,
so maybe that would be the point. Like I always
thought it would be like Siberia truly would be like
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a one city sport team, but maybe it is from
the team that has multiple multiple major sports franchises.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Let me think about a notorious franchise known for losing.
Is it okay for me top in here?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah? Go ahead, I think it's I think it could.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Could you could lend that to the Cleveland bri And
obviously they're winning right now, have had a real winner
in a while. They've been a franchise known for not
being able to find that franchise quarterback to get them
over the hump. They've had a lot of them come in,
a lot of them blow away through the wind that
on the Cleveland waters and the windy city over there.
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I know that Chicago, but it's still windy.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
And Cleveland, so I would say Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I'd say Cleveland has been notorious for losing, and now
they're maybe on the uptick, so hopefully that changes.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I think that this is maybe unfair, and I don't
know if Isaac long Crown wants in on this. Yeah, Isaac,
go ahead, Before I give you mind. Lorena, you're obviously
welcome as well.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Isaac.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Well, you guys are in discussing all these Washington teams,
you missed the most obvious one, the Washington Generals, the
foil of the.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Harlem Globe Trottles.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Trotters are just in.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
The Washington Generals have just defeated the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Jason actually made a great point about you know, it's
actually worse to be boring and non discrire. I would say,
ever since the mid to late eighties when Dominique Wilkins
was starring, when have we ever talked about the Atlanta Hawks?
Now you want to talk about right, well, right, yeah,
you want to talk about nondescript franchises. They're not necessarily great,
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they're not necessarily terrible. They're just not interesting. So I'd
actually go to the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
That's that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's not bad because even when they were good, they
had their their for some of Jeff Tigue and al
will safe Horford.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Yeah, see kind of add something to Terry's I think
that the Browns are probably the best example of this
entire thing, because especially since nineteen ninety nine, because up
until then they were kind of a proud franchise that
had some NFL titles way back in the day, but
ninety nine to now they've just been losers. And the
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even the choice to sign or trade for Deshaun Watson
was a loser move. They had an Owen sixteen season.
By definition, they're loser. I don't know if you could
top that choice.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think that we're a prisoner of the moment, and
we forget about the struggles of the Lions. I know, like, yeah,
you know, because they were truly the first one the
Owen sixteen and they they were the eight Lions. They
were the ones to get Owen sixteen. Sure we had
the Buccaneers with Owen fourteen, but get to that sixteen
Mark Cleveland wasn't even the first one to do it.
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And I think now we look at the Lions because
they are headed to the postseason and we want to
move that, you know, to the side. But again, they're
going to host a playoff game for the first time
in twenty nine seasons coming up this year, so I
think the Lions would be one. I didn't want to
get personal on this, but I do have data to
back it up, and it stays in the NFL. I
did think of Archie Manning and it may not be
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fair because Archie Manning as a person isn't a loser,
but as a quarterback when you think of his playing career,
that was one and then I just wanted to make
sure that my data was correct, and it is correct.
He is the lowest winning percentage of any quarterback in
the National Football League of.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Two sixty two with the Saints.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yes, and that's and you know you can put the
Saints as you know, part of that as well. And
it may not be fair. And obviously Archie's legacy is
is Peyton and Eli and and what you've got. But
when you're talking about losing games, no one did it
worse than Archie Manning is a quarterback. Again not personal,
but you think of the Eights, you think of the
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bags over their heads and what they were trying to do.
That was the time during the you know, in the
National Football League that was real and Archie Manning was
the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Then what it all changed with Son Peyton Kane. So yeah,
there it is.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
It all goes back to Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Mora gets a little of the uh, you know, the
cap you know with that one. Lorena you know any
losers in your life and you want to you.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Want to.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Now?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, besides you, guys, I don't have much on my lisz.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
That dude, it wasn't willing to travel thirty minutes to
pick you up for a date. That's that's a loser, right. Yeah, no,
but that hasn't even happened lately. I'm chilling.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
I'm chilling big time right now. Maybe the guy who
broke into my car and stole my stuff, he's a loser.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, was that you?
Speaker 6 (14:17):
I get the car?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Gee?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
We got a company email. That's someone at Fox Sports
Radio at their car bring, and we've now revealed we
revealed that it was Lorena. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to
hear that. I will say you notice one thing. We
didn't mention any baseball teams, because the lovable losers are
no more, you know, with the Cubs and they're winning
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the title. I think that would have been one automatically
that we would have gone to. But the World Series
seven years ago ends up moving that aside. They were
the lovable losers for a reason, and so I think
that that's why we maybe ended up slanting towards football
or slanting towards basketball all of this. Yeah, there's a
(15:03):
lot of losing college college football. I think Northwestern had
it for a while, but honestly, I think Vanderbilt's probably
the school that you would look because not only in listen,
it's tough enough to win college football games and then
to do it in the SEC when you're so like
when I think of like programs and losing programs, Kansas
(15:25):
would have been it, but heck they will go and
win the Guaranteed Rate Bowl. Last night against UNLB, they're
on the upswing. I'd give Vandy football. I guess my nomination. Yeah, yeah,
it's that was hard. When college football, it's just so
many teams that you don't you kind of Louisville, Yeah,
lay Ball tonighteenth in the country.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Maybe that is true. All right, that's the midway for
it today. It was fun talking to losers.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
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chills cats over dogs. So that was thank goodness for that.
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moment of silence on radio because it's dead air, but
I should take my hat off in respect that the
Tommy DeVito era in New York is over. Trod Taylor
name the starting quarterback of the New York Giants today
in place of Tommy DeVito. Why do you say it? Yeah?
For good about it. He was gonna be done eventually.
(17:49):
And you know, I think we talked about it now.
I was like, it's his lisanity moment. It was fun,
it was cute. They weren't playing anybody. They got some wins,
but yeah, I mean, he wasn't the long term answer
there for the Giants. And so you know, Tyrod proven
veteran guy that can play and you know, you know whatever,
move on and give him some snaps.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
This is my thoughts on the deal.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And we talked a little bit about this myself, Jason
and Doug Gottlieb were in for the Dan Patrick Show yesterday.
We didn't get to dive deep into this, but I
do think that it was a real thing. I feel
the Giants became victims of the Tommy DeVito story. And
when you really step back and look at it, was
(18:34):
Tommy DeVito going to be the long term answer for
the New York Giants. No, he was not going to be.
Was he going to, through his play be able to
replace and injured Daniel Jones, No, that was not going
to happen. The next quarterback of the Giants is probably
not on the roster right now. So the Giants and
(18:55):
you can look at the Vito's numbers, and while they
are respectable, I don't know if they got to the
point carry where you said to yourself, we want this
more than we want that. And that is the veteran
to Rod Taylor, And when Jones got hurt earlier in
(19:16):
the season, Taylor ended up filling in for him, and
so Taylor gets hurt and then they have no other options,
so they go to Tommy DeVito and the era starts,
by the way, not in great fashion, like it was
not good. It was not good early. Then as the
season got on and he got more experience, and no
disrespect to Tommy DeVito, he played better, But at no point,
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even in the scenario where they were winning games, should
he have been playing over to Rod Taylor. And that's
why I think that the Giants were victim into the
whole Devido story that we all got wrapped up into,
and the whole hand gesture and the hey and the
Italian stuff and all the craze. Yeah, there was no
point in that whole range where Tommy DeVito is a
(20:02):
better option than Torod Taylor for winning football games. Way,
and Tarrod Taylor came back from ir and served as
DeVito's backup in a win over the Packers, in a
loss to the Saints, and then last week when they
ended up the de Vito era ends up being over there.
So that's the point, and that would be against the
(20:23):
egos that we saw on Christmas Day. That's the point
where I just I feel like the Giants made this
move almost in a way to better their draft position
and to continue this story than to actually try to
win football games, because Torod Taylor would have been their
better option.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Tarrod Taylor was a better option leaps and bounds. But again,
we're prisoners of the moment right in today's society. If
it's a cool story, we're all about it. You can
look at Tommy DeVito's stats during those wins and you
could tell it wasn't a out de Vito, right, the
(21:03):
story was cool, and I'm all about, you know, kids
getting their chance to shine and hopefully being able to
be a backup somewhere else, or even staying in the
Giants and making money and making the living. But you
could see the first game he came in in relief
for Tyrod Taylor, he threw the ball once like it
wasn't you know what I mean, Like there was no
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there was no confidence in what this guy could do
on the field.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And so, you know, to get to where we are now,
it's just it's crazy. And the first game that he
filled in was their loss to the Jets. He went
two of seven for negative one yards. Then against the
Raiders was fifteen of twenty. They were blown out, he
played better at the end of that game, and then
they were destroyed by the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Brian Dable said today that de Vito earned the right
to start from even when Taylor was healthy, based on
his performances against the Patriots and based on his performance
against the Commanders. He was seventeen or twenty five for
one hundred and ninety one yards in one touchdown against
New England. That proves into a very nice passer rating
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of one oh three point nine. Yes the week before
and against Washington again, the Commanders turned the ball over
six times in that game, but still Devido through for
two hundred and forty six yards three touchdowns a passer
rating of one thirty seven point seven. The reason why
these numbers are important is because Brian Dabole can point
to it and say, this is why we started him,
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for sure, this is why we continue to start him.
But the reason that you would continue to start him
would be to either maybe he's got a future as
your quarterback, or maybe this is the best option, well
at least not the best option to Toronto Taylor. So
that's out of the way and he's not going to
be your future quarterback, So that the only way that
they can justify it, but they can't say it is
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that they were playing into everything. And honestly, when the
Giants are having as awful of a year as they
have been, the coaching staff in the front office probably
could use something to take the heat off them. If
you benched during the the Vito craze, you're getting more
heat even though you're making the right decision for sure.
So like, I feel that the Giants caved in having
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Tommy DeVito start these games because of the craze that
was going on, and then they were able to let
it play out, and since the season was lost, they
could allow that to happen. Now they've come back to
their senses and realized that Tarrod Taylor is their best
option to start at quarterback.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, I love that. I love that take. It's it's
true too.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I mean again, you're in the lost season, in a
season where you know, some people thought they had a
chance to be good.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I thought they would miss the playoffs, even with the
healthy Daniel Jones. I said that early on. But when
you get to a point of, like you said, the
era you start having, you know, some clicks, you have
more fans come to the game, you have more people
interested in what you're doing, and so that is a
little mini win.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You have jersey shales. Yeah, you have an agent who's
now a former agent. I mean, heck, one of our
tech producers bought a Tommy DeVito jersey. No way, Yeah, Chris,
it's the Lions fan.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah. Yeah, Chris a Tommy DeVito jersey. And I'll tell
you what, he was not alone. There are other people
that brought it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And there's gonna be a point where we'll look back
and we'll laugh and we'll see the jersey and we'll
remember Tommy DeVito. By the way, none of this meant
to discredit Tommy DeVito, which I know sounds like we're
totally discrediting Tommy DeVito. It's just the fact that I
think that Brian Dabole and the Giants had alterior motives
in continuing the story. They weren't going to make the
playoffs if if they were the ones to bench DeVito,
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they look like the bad guys.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
They look like the grinch.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
They allowed the story to continue and take care of itself,
and now they're doing the right thing with Rod Taylor.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
The only DAVIDO that I acknowledges Danny, So I mean
that's why I am.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Apparently it is with Jason too, because at every rundown
for the last week it was Anny DeVito so much.
Jason can vouch for this. I said it, go, are
you purposely writing Danny DeVito? I said that to you yesterday.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Right, It's like it's it's one of those mind blocks.
I think we all just kind of get stuck on
that one thing that you just either misname or misspell continuously.
And Danny DeVito is my sticking point. By the way,
best Danny DeVito movie was when he was in Twins
with Arnold Great.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I talk about that all the time. A lot of
people don't have to be talking about wat Wins all
the time. I do, because they're doing a new one
that a lot of people don't know about yet, but
they're actually doing a remake.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
And guess who the third?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Should I say this on, guess who the third? Because
there's going to be triplets now, and it's going to
be another person added on to that. And guess who
that person is it is?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah? Wait, so it's it's schwartzene Er and Devido and
and one more.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
And right, now I don't know if they recast it
or not, but at this moment, it's supposed to be
Tracy Morgan because remember, if you're thinking about the concept
of twins, they're not, you know, they were genetically made,
and so the third one could be, you know, a
person of color, and so you talk about.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Actually called twins to triplets.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's gonna be yeah, it's it's gonna be twins right now,
and it's gonna be twins too, but yeah, you're gonna
have the whole doctor concoction thing that happens to be
there's more more of them, so they find more more
of that particular.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I feel like this is et and entertainment today.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'm dropping bomb shales on you guys right now.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
You didn't know that, Uh he's carry roads. I'm Dan Byer.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Joe Flacco has been dropping bombs on opposing defenses, and
the Browns are in the thick of things. I know
you're pumped about it. It's gonna get your thoughts on that.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I got the.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Update, Dan, Sorry, So it would have been called triplets, Jason,
And right now they're saying it's in the holding pattern.
So something happened, but it was it was gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Wow. Yeah, I'm trying to think of which which of
those actors are bigger need of a career resuscitation. Morgan's
actually been been he's cool.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But Schwarzenegger, well, I don't think they need a resascitation
because I think Schwarzenegger is getting a lot of love
off of the Netflix dock.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, and the Vito on you know, It's Always Sunny
is got.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Totally missed out? Serious? Have you guys ever seen an
episode of that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I've watched a few episodes. Yeah, I'm not I'm not
an avid watcher, but yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
You're right, and I think's got what the subway at.
So he's got some money coming.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
This reminds me of the time where I was at
breaking breaking Hollywood news here on Fox Sports Radio. I
may have told this story. I was at the driving
range and I showed up and I broke the news
to everyone that Tom Brady was going to retire, and
so this was a big deal. This was the first time. Okay,
(27:52):
this is the first time I was going to retire.
Not the official but the first time. So, you know,
just was in my car and I was going to
go and hit some golf balls, and so I told
everybody on the range and here in southern California, a
lot of people from a lot of different walks of life,
and there's someone who works, you know, in movies, and
they go, yeah, they're shooting a movie with Brady. And
it's this this plotline where like these four old ladies yeah,
(28:16):
love Tom Brady and then become the biggest fan. And
I'm listening to this and like, this movie really sounds
like it sucks, like there's no like I didn't ever
expect it to come to light. And then Brady unretires
and then we find out later that offseason that it
was breaking news that there was gonna be this whole
movie about Tom Brady, and I felt like I completely
(28:36):
dropped the ball because I didn't realize that from the
synopsis of the movie, which sounded like it's stunk. Then
I would want to put my name on that, to
be like, hey, Tom Brady's going to be filming a
movie with, you know, because I didn't know what the
who the ladies were, you.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Know, at the time.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And then it ends up being pretty popular and you
got you know, big names in the movie and the
whole deal. So I felt like I dropped the ball
on that that breaking news entertainment Tonight style. I could
have been acture up on that. I had, I actually had.
I actually had the audition for that, really, and you
didn't get it.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I did not want to do Ady for Brady, No,
not a chance.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
But you did audition. I did not.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You did not do the sent me the audition and
I was like, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And you're like, You're gonna play the role of defensive
back burn bribe Brady and you're.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Like, look at this video. I'm good.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
Look at this video. Look at me guarding Gronk here
right right. I did not want that at all. No,
it did not sound fun. And I actually sat in
the theater and watched it with my with my girl
at the time, and I was like, no, this is
I could have went to another movement for ship.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Did you're so? Did you face Joe Flacco in your career?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I always forget your your window and I told you
this early. Yeah you're playing window. He was definitely there
when I was playing. But I don't know if I
don't It wasn't memorable enough. How crazy is it that
he's got his team in the thick of things. Uh
and his team. How crazy is it that it's the
Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I love it, And he's about to play his play
its former team, hopefully not.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And not the real former team that we think of,
we think, we think he's there. Yeah, it could be
an opportunity in the playoffs. But then tomorrow night they've
got the Jets, a team that has been looking for
a quarterback all season long and had Flacco on the
fold last year. Flaco is saying today, no ill will towards
the Jets because they didn't reach out to him or
want to bring him back. Probably better because now he's
(30:29):
about to be in the postseason with the Cleveland Browns.
It is crazy being a fantasy football you know, junkie
like I am. And we've got our podcast that I
do with Mike Harmon and Ryan Berschinger, and you know,
Flacco has been a name that we've actually talked about
in the last couple of weeks and now it's winning
time in the playoffs. Who would have thought at the
beginning of the year, let alone at the midway point
of the year, that your fantasy season could be hinging
(30:51):
on whether you play Joe Flacco in Week seventeen against
the New York Jets. But that's where we are just
crazy story. But like the Tommy you know, a story,
like all good things have to come to an end.
I'm curious to see where this comes to it. And
for a Cleveland Brown's squad that could do some damage
for all, Well, Flacco's playing.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Right now, you know how. You know that's one of
my sleeper teams. And that's somebody a team that I
really think can do damage and I think can win
a couple of games in the playoffs. And yeah, I
I mean the thing with Flacco is and what he
has done for them, he he does not care. He's
throwing the ball, he's throwing the ball down the field.
He's trying to make plays. He's not he's not dinking
(31:29):
and duncan. He's trying to trying to win games. And
I think that's what they needed.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
He shouldn't care because if they know. And the reason
I say that is because if you were to put
Dorian Thompson Robinson in Dorrian Thompson Robinson does care about
taking care of the football exactly like that in the
any and he should. He's a young quarterback and you
don't want to make stupid plays. And and and even
though he's dynamic, there's you know, things that you know
you could have done that that that's why they would
(31:55):
have turned to him in that situation, but instead they
turned to Flacco, and Flaccos didn't carry. He was out
a couch three months ago, and that's that's why they
brought him in. He's carry roads. I'm dampire. We Oh,
Jason Stewart is here carry?
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Uh? What were you doing October thirtieth, twenty eleven, because
I see that you played in seven games?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Cardinals played the Ravens on October thirtieth, twenty eleven.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yep, I was out. I fractured my fifth meta tarsal
in my left foot, so I was out. That's probably
why I don't remember the game. There you go, did Flacco?
I was probably flying planes at that time?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Did the flying planes? I got? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I was working on my pilot's license while I was
out with.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
A broken foot. Yes, I was, oh, geez, yeah, does
that matter? Does your foot need to be Is it
okay if it's broken? A fly plane?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Well, I was starting the I think the healing process
at that point.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Love hearing this right now.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
No, they know my defensive coordinator Ray Horton at the
time he was he actually referred referred it to.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, how did Flacco do that game?
Do we have a do you have stats?
Speaker 6 (32:59):
The Ravens one thirty to twenty seven. So it was
a nail bier for sure. Let me get Flacco stats.
Maybe we'll hit it on the other hold on a
second thirty one of fifty one for three thirty six
because now here I was out.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah, because Carry was not playing.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
That's why it would have been a different story if
you would have been in Uh. And again he wasn't
in eighty for Brady Carry Roads. Not only was not
in it, he didn't want to audition for it. Hit
him up back Carry twenty five Roads. You can find
me at Dan Byer on Fox coming up next to
the Doug Gottlieb Shield live from the Tirak dot Com studios.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
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Speaker 2 (33:41):
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Dan Byer sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today and carry
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Gonna be called Triplets.
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So Jason was right, it was I didn't see that
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Speaker 3 (35:06):
Would that be one of the biggest accomplishments in sports
history If when John Moran comes back, they just win
the rest of their games, for the rest.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Of their way, it would be It would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
But I there's something to it that just doesn't feel
right that they should get immediate success, Like I still
don't know if John Moran has learned anything from anything
that's going on. And that's the problem that I feel
with this of even just after the game winner and
win number one, you know, the keeping receipts and well,
(35:39):
you're the one that.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Needed to learn something we didn't.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
It's not you know, it has nothing to do about
anything but that for sure. That's the thing that worries me.
In Denver, they're gonna be worried about who's going to
be the quarterback of the future, because Russell Wilson is
likely not going to be. He's not going to be
their quarterback of the present bench today by head coach
Sean Payton Peyton. We're going to hear from him in
a little while here on Fox Sports Radio. But right
(36:02):
now we're going to hear from one of our great
voices here on FSR in a segment we like to.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Call and now.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Sayahn Cowhard weighing in on the benching of Russell Wilson.
Speaker 9 (36:16):
One of the things I have noticed in this relationship.
Number one, the signing of Stidham was to me bizarre,
but that told me Sean Payton had seen enough, discussed enough,
and knew this was a problematic relationship. The second thing
is when I watch Denver games, and I really noticed
(36:37):
it in the last couple of weeks, as Russell Wilson
has struggled, Russell's smaller TUA has acknowledged honestly, he at
times has trouble seeing over the offensive line. Kyler Murray's
greatest success is often moving outside of the pocket. Russell
Wilson's career is highlighted by rainbow throws up the sideline
(36:58):
and moving around a lot and making plays out of
the pocket. But if you watch Russell Wilson in the pocket,
it is something I would argue that he struggles to
see downfield between the hashmarks. I saw it again this weekend.
Denver's got very few twenty twenty five yard completions. And
they have Courtland Sutton and they have Jerry Judy. Those
(37:19):
are fast guys that can get open. They have very
few middle of the field completions. It's sideline stuff. Russell
escaping the pocket and going it deep. And the Brady's
and the Mannings and the big Bends and the great
ones live in the middle of the field.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Eat it alive.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
Mahomes eats it alive.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I was telling you, Kerry that I look back at
the Saints in those glory days with them of Robert Meetcham,
Deverie Henderson, Marcus Colston getting the ball in the middle
of the field, Colston maybe stopping at fifteen yards getting
a pass enormous targets by the way, Meetscham and Henderson
doing their stuff downfield. I don't think that the person
(38:00):
and no matches up with what the Saints had to
what Denver has had either.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, I agree, And I also think that if you're
a savant at the coaching position or the offensive position,
you give your guy a chance to succeed in a
way that may not fit your mole. You have to
be a little flexible.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You are not flexible in your stance that this is
Sean Payton being Sean Payton. Yes, and that's why we've
got to this point. And I think that Sean Payton
has every reason to be Sean Payton. And I think
that's why Sean Payton was brought in. There are very
few coaches who walk like Sean Payton. That chest is out,
that chest is out. I also think that he probably
(38:37):
does have problems reading, so he's got his little cheaters on.
But I also think it makes him look smarter on
the sidelines as well. Is that why Sean Payton knows
who he is? He's carry rhades. I'm Dan Byer. It's
been the Doug Gottlieb Show. We're going to stick around
and react and hear from Sean Payton and why he
made the decision. That's next here on Fox Sports Radio.
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