November 20, 2025 • 37 mins
On this installment of "Don't Throw It A Throwback, Thursday", Dan and the crew feature the sports year of 2013. Dan welcomes Doug Gottlieb onto his own show live from the Virgin Islands, site of the holiday tournament Doug's basketball team is playing in this weekend. Plus, Chris Perfett takes Dan through "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
You can run, but you can't hide from analytics. I'm
telling you, analytics are here to stay, knows no matter
as much as you want to do away with them.
Stick to the old school method saying analytics don't mean everything.
I've got the MPM right here, Sam. Have you heard
of mph miles per hour per hour MPM? We had
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a one we are at a one mistakes per minute
in that last segment. There were at least five mistakes
that we did in that five minute segment. But what
was worse was the carnage that went on during the break.
I mean just Haymakers Levy, back and forth between Chris
and Sane Jason was it was bloodshed during the break.
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It was really fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I like, you know, I like smack talking, and I
don't know if Chris meant it this way, but he
definitely got the best dig in so to set the
table right, I said, by far, the worst mistake made
in the segment was that Sam had said justin fields,
and He's like, who am I supposed to know? For
the piece of crap Jets who's starting? And Chris said
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from the top rope, Yeah, we all knew that on Monday,
and I don't think.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It was Monday. I wasn't even meaning it like that,
but it was a shot. I mean, I said twenty
sixteen instead of twenty twenty six the relevant NFL news date.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Whose brain is actually holding onto that, I guess the
real diehards?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Then, Ah, those Jets have a big showdown with the
the Baltimore Ravens coming up this weekend. In what is
kind of a funky weekend. We're talking about the lackluster
matchups that we've got in college football because of some
of the non conference games that are happening, but then
the name Actional Football League as well with all of
the backup quarterbacks or the replacement quarterbacks that we mentioned
(02:06):
in game time. Another funky week and a week with
team like the Chargers and Broncos on buy in Week twelve.
But it all starts tonight with what I think should
be a pretty good game between the Bills and the Texans.
It is Thursday. We've got that right. It is also
twenty twenty five, and you know what that means.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
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Speaker 2 (02:33):
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Jason Stewart and myself. Jason, take it away, Thank you, Dan.
I'll take it from here. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I want to set the stage. Twelve years ago. Twelve
years ago, Auburn Alabama played in the Iron Bowl and
something remarkable happened. I'll set the stage chairs twenty eight
to twenty eight with a second left for Nick Saban's
Alabama team, and they wanted to kick a long field
goal to beat Auburn in the Iron Bowl, and this happened.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Well, I guess if this thing comes up short, he
can field it and run it out.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
All right, here we go fifty six yard. It's got
no does not have the leg. And when Chris Davis takes.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It in the back of the end zone, he'll run
it out to the ten fifteen, twenty, twenty.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Five, thirty thirty five, forty forty five, fifty forty five.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
There it goes Davis. Oh my god, this is going
run it all the way back. Arvert's gonna win a
football game. Aubert's gonna win a football game. They ran
the best mail go back. They ran it back one
hundred and nine yards. They're not gonna keep him up
the field to night.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Holy cow, Oh.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
My god, Auburn wits. Auburn has won the Iron Bowl.
Awbard has won the Iron Bowl in about unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Fashion you will ever see. I cannot believe it. Over
thirty four twenty eight. Then we thought a miracle of
Jordan Hare was amazing. Oh my Lord and heaven. Chris
Davis has reddit.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
One hundred nine yards and Auburn is going to the
Champions Show.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
All right, So you guys gotta fill in the gaps here.
You guys are all you guys are all college football
of fans. But this is what I know.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I know.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Alabama entered that game undefeated. I know Gus Malzan was
the head coach of Auburn. This was in the post
post cham years. I do know this. I know Florida
State eventually won the BCS title, I think the last
year of the BCS title. So fill in the gaps here?
Who was that? Did Jamis Winston Florida State team?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah? Did Alabama play in the championship game? What happened
after that? No, So Auburn actually ended up when they
talk about going to the championship game. They got to
go to the SEC Championship game where they beat Missouri
and then got a chance to face Florida State the
National Championship game out here in Pasadena. Game that I attended,
a last second victory by Florida State, Jameis Winston hitting
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Calvin Benjamin for a game winning Touchdo I believe those
were the details of the National Championship Game? But I
actually think that the actual play itself. When we look
back at the crazy plays of college football, there's two
that standout. There's the Doug Flutie hellmery against Boston College,
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and that's because of the sensation that Fluti was. But honestly,
the most iconic play in college football history is Stanford
cal The band is on the field. It's the most
iconic playing college football. But it wasn't like a national
championship was on the line. It wasn't like John Elway
told the band to go onto the field. There was
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none of that. This was Nick Saban and an unbeaten
Alabama team that had been dominant in the previous years
deciding to kick a field goal of extreme length and
not only have it backfire by not going through the uprights,
that Auburn had a plan after losing I think four
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straight iron balls at that time to actually set up
a return if the kick was that short. So there's
all of that, and then you take in the national
championship picture, the snapping of Alabama's unbeaten season and their
greatness that all falls in, which probably should make it
the greatest college football play of the modern era. I
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would say, Chris Prophet.
Speaker 8 (07:01):
There are like three things around that play too that
we also have to take in mine. First off, on
the call you heard there, they mentioned the miracle at
Jordan Hare, which was the week prior where Alabama won
on like a last second like deflected pass that went
into the hands of one of their receivers for a
last second touchdown to beat Georgia.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, but it was Auburn for Auburn, for Auburn versus Georgia.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
But then, like earlier in that game for Alabama, I
think the drive before that field goal, there was a
ninety nine yard pass by quarterback aj mccierran that was
declared to be his heisman moment. Auburn ended up answering that.
And then two things happen on that field goal. Number One,
Nick Saban fights to get a single second back on
the clock. They originally had it at Triple zero's and
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they were planning to go to overtime, but he wanted
them to review it. And in kind of shades of
that Big twelve championship between Texas and Nebraska way back
in the day, like they gave him the second, and
then he goes not to the main kicker, who had
missed several field goals in that game. He puts in
a true freshman to take that kick as well, So
like he's getting the second and he's trotting out a
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kicker in probably the biggest moment of that kicker's life
to kick a sixty plus yard field fifty seven to six,
six plus the yard field goal, Like just the hubris
of Nick Saban in that moment to reach for that
and to have apparently the heavens answer him in the
worst way possible.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Just an awful decision. And rarely would you see Nick
Saban look bad in a spot like that, But it happened.
Now it allowed Auburn to go to the National Championship Game,
in which we said with Day would ultimately lose. The
twenty thirteen NFL season which stands out to me two
things in the number one, the Seahawks. It was this
year the Seahawks won the Super Bowl, so they were
thirteen to three. They were the best team in the
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NFC that year. They had ultimately the great win over
the forty nine ers in the NFC Championship Game, and
then they beat the Broncos. But the other part of
the actual twenty thirteen season stood out. Guys. I went
to a Houston Texans game. It was against the Indianapolis
Colts and it was in October, and it was a game.
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You guys, ever have fantasy games where you just remember, man,
I remember when I was down X amount of points
and so and so had that great game. I had
t Y Hilton and Andre Johnson on my team and
I was down by about forty points going into Sunday
Night Football. The final score was Colts win twenty seven
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to twenty four. Just to let you know, t Y
Hilton had seven catches three touchdowns on the game for
the Indianapolis Colts, his passing total one hundred and twenty
one yards. Andre Johnson had nine catches for two hundred
and twenty nine yards in three touchdowns. I came back
from out of nowhere to win a fantasy football game
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because of those two wide receivers and was in the
building to watch it. There is nothing like it that
happened in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's euphoria, pure fantasy euphoria. Now, if you set the
stage a little bit, I think that was Andrew Luck's
rookie season because Peyton Manning was having like a world
beating season for the Broncos before losing to your Seahawks.
If I'm not mistaken, yes, so Andrew Luck. They take
with a top pick, and Andrew Luck delivered your fantasy euphoria.
(10:17):
Uh you, said Matt Schaub. Matt Shopp was quarterback tase Keenum.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I was, Yeah, I was in case Keenum was the quarterback. Yeah,
how about that? How about these names Ben Tate? Remember
Ben Tate? Running back? Donald Brown led the Colts in rushing.
You only had six perries in the Yukon Yes. Was
he a first round draft case? Yes, Hemember when he
got drafted, he was in a living room.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
He was the running back on the Yukon team that
played Oklahoma. I believe in a BCS game when they
somehow back in and they're.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Another great part of BCS history.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
And they got smoked. But Donald Brown, I think he
kind of disappeared after a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But he had a nice little career his career. Yeah, absolutely,
What else happened in twenty thirteen? Pet, you have a
twenty thirteen sports highlight? Iowa say sports highlight?
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Well, I mean, I'm trying to think besides ORB winning
the Kentucky Derby, I was mostly looking at music from
that year, like this was a weird music year that
I think we still have some hits sitting around.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Let's th frill down on that Kentucky Derby for the music. Yes,
what happened that year?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I remember or.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
I've I've been loving getting into like horse horse race history,
but like Orb was the Kentucky Derby winner. Uh, I
just remember it as being like we've had yes, hail
the ORB, ponder the ORB. We've had some incredibly sloppy
Kentucky Derby's and sloppy in meaning like that. It's been wet,
muddy discussing, but I think twenty thirteen might have been
the wettest and most disgusting, just mud flying everywhere in
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that in that race. Just by by the end of it,
everyone's covered in films.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's the perfect transition. He goes from colts to cult right,
like there is that that was just that was there
you go, that was seamless well done. If only Colt
McCoy was the quarterback for the Texans.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
Since well I did you just mentioned Texas in that
Texas Nebraska game front But that wasn't twenty thirteen, It's correct,
I was Colt McCoy there though, Yes.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, he was in the he had been in the
league for several years, right because he was the quarterback
in Texas in like twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I covered a game Colt McCoy won at Nebraska in
two thousand and six in Lincoln. I remember that very well.
You want to know what happened in the year in
golf quickly, let me get that out of the way. Yeah,
it was actually a really good year for golf. Adam
Scott ends up winning the Masters, winning his first major
and his only major, winning in a playoff over on
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Hell Cabrera. Scott had blown the Open Championship the year before,
bogied his final four holes, allowing Ernie Els to win,
so he wins there. Justin Rose wins his only major
of his career in twenty thirteen, winning at Marion. Phil
Mickelson an awful shot on the power three thirteenth really
ended out his hopes of getting that career Grand Slam.
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But he didn't have the Career Grand Slam in his
mind at that point because he had yet to win
an Open champion Chip, something that he did a month
later at Mierfield, and then Jason Duffner won the PGA
Championship at Okhill. But I think most people remember Adam
Scott winning in the rain at the Masters, even more
so than Phil or Justin Rose winning.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I don't think enough attentions given to this that Adam
Scott had a really good golf career and then went
on to star in Severance. Isn't it doesn't get much
attention at all. But as Adam Scott was winning that major.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I loved him in this Boy Meets World role too,
that was very limited.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But Step Brothers very Step Brothers career. He's had great
role in Step Brothers. But he was listening to music
on the on the Pudding Green before that major, really
and a reporter asked him, you know what tunes are
you listening to as you're getting ready to try to
win this major, and Adam Scott said it was this song.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh man, I think she's back with a new album.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
This is Ward Royals top the Billboard one hundred for
five weeks in the year twenty thirteen. Now Lord is
an Australian or New Zealand or somewhere down under. I
want to say she's New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Oh that's what it is. Zee Kiwi. She's a Kiwi.
I want to say.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Her albums since this have been kind of the law
of diminishing returns. This was a massively commercially successful album
and I think she was sixteen years old or something
crazy and then her music sense is kind of tailed
off a little bit for my taste. But this is
Lord Royals. What do you remember best of from Lord
(14:38):
Dan She.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Had this really high tech stainless steel drinking cup that
was like fifty bucks and they call it Lord Stanley Cup.
And that's how the Stanley drink. That's incredible. Yeah, it
became so popular. That's at least that's what I what
I know from it.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Yes, I just realized we're forgetting probably one of the
huge moment from twenty thirteen NBA Finals Miami Heat San
Antonio Spurs Game six, with Miami Heat fans leaving the
arena early and and yeah, well they were down. How
much were they down by at that point? I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't know you brought it up. I can't remember
off off hand.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
It's it was Ray Allen's shot. Yeah, yeah, but I
was just trying to remember. I was just trying to
remember how far down they were. Just but that shot.
I will always remember that shot.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
How about this trick question? Who won the NCAA Tournament
in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That would be a team that later had to have
it taken down the Louisvia Cardinals.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
I thought you were going to say nobody. Nobody did
because it was what it was. It was, uh, what's
the term for vacated? That was a rat. That was
the game, That was the run. But he had suffered
the injury in the regional final, right, okay, but that
was Rick Patino.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
That was Louisville's first national championship since nineteen eighty six,
if my research that is correct.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And they beat they beat who Dan? They beat Michigan?
They did. I bet you liked that. I did at
the time. Absolutely, I'm just glad they didn't elevate Michigan
to be national champions at that point. Just nobody wins. Now.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Did Rick Patino ever acknowledge or accept the fact that
he knew about all these awful things that were happening
under his watcher? Did he deny it straight through? Was
that how that went down? Well?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
There was, I don't want to say, because I can't
remember offhand. Well, I think that there were.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I was just I was just trying to set up
a segue. So Rick Patino was acting like you didn't
know what was going on in his basketball program. Matthew
McConaughey was winning the Best Actor for Dallas Buyer's Club.
Everyone remembers he lost upwards of one hundred pounds to
play that role of some one with Uh. That was
HIV positive great year in movies, to be honest. Uh,
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gravity was that year. Captain Phillips Twelve Years of Slave
brought Home the Oscar.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
But my favorite movie of the year that that keeps
getting better with each watch. Have each of you seen
I know the answer from Dan The Wolf of Wall
Street more than once.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I've only seen it once, so I have seen it
only seen it once? Yes? Did you love it? I did?
I enjoyed it? Yes, I did. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Can I say this about the movie. I saw it
one time in theaters. I love the first half of
the movie, and then the second half was nothing but
partying on yachts and it just kept going and going.
And I love Scorsese, but he's usually his movies are
about three plus hours. The last half of that movie
was just a lot of redundant partying and it just
and screaming a lot of screaming men screaming about making money.
And I was like, you know what, this is gonna
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end up low on the list for me of Scorsese movies.
I know it's you watch it's yeah, I I but
that's kind of the theme, right, like not too much,
not to spoil historical events or something. The whole point
of the movie is these guys all get away with
There is never a moment in in Bellefort's life in
that movie where he is making unlike, you know, stuff
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like Goodfellas, where you know, Henry Hill has to go
live and you know, get egg noodles with ketchup. Like,
there's never a moment that the bark of the film
of Goodfellas that I liked it. I just felt like
Wall Street just went too long, too much partying nats
in the second half, too much men screaming about me.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
That's the point, though, is that little from the that
Wire Street era who did all these crimes, were never
taking a task, never got away with all of it,
and Bellefort came back and started doing this all over again.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It was the excess of of capitalism with no consequences.
That was the theme. But I will say this, watch
it again, you're gonna love it. It's one of those
movies that gets better each time you watch it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
The Quailude scene with the car well, I think that
was the first half of the movie though.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But I remember that last time in my algorithm, this
scene when the FBI agents on the yacht with him,
they did one of those somebody put together what the
script was and what Leo. Yes, I did, and so
that actually popped up in my algorithm yesterday. It's really
really good, just like this segment. And don't call it
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a throwback.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Larry Bird's not walking through that door.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Don't call it a Throwbacktino and Louisville.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
We're in a lawsuit to which you was ultimately settled.
So I think to answer your question, no, I think
that would be the answer.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
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sitting in for Doug. We're gonna hear from the head coach, though.
Doug's gonna join us live in advance of the Paradise
Jam as his Green Bay Phoenix are going to be
competing over the next couple of days the US Virgin Islands.
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end of the show. The head coach of the Green
Bay Phoenix who is live from the US Virgin Islands
in Saint Thomas in advance of their showdown in the
Paradise Jam tomorrow against Yale. It's the coach, Doug Gottlieb,
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appearing on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Hello Doug, how are you?
Speaker 10 (20:34):
No? No, no more my tides. No, I'm good. I
gotta do a radio interview.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
No more?
Speaker 10 (20:39):
Oh, no more drinks? Oh hey, guys, what's up?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I thought this was a work trip. I didn't realize
that this was a vacation. I thought you're there to
go three and O. But drinks are flowing. What's going
on now?
Speaker 10 (20:50):
I'm actually I'm at what is this? Ivana El Dora
teen high school where just stepping out of we're just
shooting at the end of So it definitely is a
work trip and it has been. It has been a
schlep to get down here. You know what's interesting you
find out about the Virgin Downs. First of all, it's
beautiful and everybody's super friendly, but it's like the one
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place that you can't you can't get there's very difficult
to get through on a one stopper from Green Bay. Right,
you can go Charlotte, you can go Houston, you can
go New York, you can go Atlanta, you can go Dallas.
You can't go Chicago, Minneapolis or Detroit, which are so Yeah,
it's it's a bit to get down here, but I
can see why people get down here.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
What was the itinerary? What did you guys? Where'd you
guys go?
Speaker 10 (21:37):
Well, we were supposed to leave at five point thirty
in the morning yesterday, fly through Atlanta and then Atlanta
to hear Our first flight was delayed four hours, so
the guy's got to sleep in. But we flew to
Atlanta and then we practiced at the Hawks facility, stayed
the night in Atlanta, had a good meal, and then
caught up reasonable plight. It was actually not bad, but
again you just kind of burn a day when you
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could have been getting the just dial in time.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and you guys play game number one tomorrow against
the Yale Bulldogs from the IVY League. I am curious,
what is as a coach, what is the advantage of
playing in these holiday games, in these holiday tournaments at
this time?
Speaker 10 (22:17):
Well, I mean again, the first thing is I'm an
inexperienced coach, and if I could do it again, I mean,
talk to me in a week, I probably wouldn't do
it again. So an MTE gives you at least until
next year. Next year it changes an MT. That's what
all these events are. You get one additional game on
your schedule. So this year we can play thirty one games.
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You can play thirty two if you play an MT. Okay,
so gives you an additional game for us, like it
would be nearly impossible the competition we're playing. So we'll
play Yale and win or lose. We play the winner
loser of College to Charleston or UMass. Right, So the
chances of us, the only chance we have of playing
those teams are in a neutral side event or on
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the road. They don't play Green Bay home at home.
Generally they do not unless there's unless there's you know,
trying to bring a coach home or a player home
or whatever. So it gives us a higher level of competition.
The issue for us is like this is everybody's a
higher level than us. There's nobody at our level. So
I think that you can raise money doing it if
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you have a big following, and some of the schools
that do, they make a bunch of money selling these trips.
You can auction off these trips as well. It's great
for the players, right, like we're in Green Bay. I mean,
everybody knows it's frozen tundra. It's eighty five eighty four,
eighty five eighty five. Every day we're here is that.
And again also three and four days, I think you
get to learn about your team because if we're really honest,
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nobody really knows what they have just yet, or what
they want to do, or who they want to play.
And you're forced to play extra guys. You're forced to
play a little left handed in these events. So there
are added things other than just traveling to a tropical
location where you get to hang out and have a
good time.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, Doug Gottlieb joining us on The Doug Gottlieb Show
Live for the Virgin Islands. I'm Dan Byer and Doug's
usual chair. The reason I asked it wasn't because it
was a weighted question of why do you play these
It is what are the advantages and disadvantages. It could
be camaraderie, getting your guys just to hang out for
you know, three to four days, you know, in a
in a different location. I know certain college football programs
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always would like to schedule or try to schedule maybe
a game in Hawaii or Las Vegas to your point,
for their fan base to travel to go and have
something to do. So, you know, there are a lot
of reasons for this, and so that's why I asked them.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
There's another reality of it, Dan, There's another reality of it,
which is it's really hard to get thirty two games
into the into the number of weeks that we have
once when conference play starts in December. So yes, camaraderie
is definitely part of it. And honestly, I pulled my
guys aside last night because they were awesome. You know,
they thought they were going to have to get up
at two and they end up getting We got them
a texta just in time, so they slept in. But
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they all rolled with it. And you know what I
told them is like, hey, but this is going to
serve you well. If you want to do this sports thing,
do you want to do this basketball thing, or do
you want to do this life thing? You got to
learn the role with it, Like what the itinerary is?
It changes, especially when you go to outside the contiguous
United States. So all of those things, and the last
thing is like, look, I have two kids that before
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this year they'd never flown on a plane before. Really
we just we yeah, we forget there. Some of them
ninety years old. I haven't done that much. None of
them been here before. We got one coach has been here.
I haven't been here before. You get all these games
against I mean, we're playing the team that's the everyone.
They got every vote as the favorite for the IVY League.
They're really really good, right, we play a really high
(25:34):
level of competition. We have to figure our team out
with do so in Paradise and yeah, by the way, yeah,
we get to know each other better and we get
to learn about our team a lot better. What we have,
which we're still kind of figuring out.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Doug gottlie began joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. What is the setup considering
you guys just got in the do they have you
up at a resort? I mean, is there? Yeah, you
know their ways to.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
Keep it's a Western It's sweet, okay, I mean you
know we're not Yeah, that's sweet.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You're not roughing it at all.
Speaker 10 (26:04):
No, although we had it's called a Safari bus, right,
so we have one of those buses here thirty minutes
on these lining roads that have no doors or windows.
It's just open air. And let me tell you that stuff.
It was a little harry for a while. So there's
there's a little bit of something there.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Oh, there's also an apparent rooster.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
There's two roosters the practice however, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, uh yeah, that would mean time is up.
Speaker 10 (26:31):
That's all that would that would that would mean time
is up. But anyway, and then tomorrow we're playing when
you guys are broadcasting, so or yeah, I know, we'll
be done right before you guys go on the show,
So I give you a full recap especially we went
I'll definitely give you the full recap, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, Aeron Torres and myself will be in for you
tomorrow as you get set for the Paradise Jam. And
then it's at the Universe.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
I have a really quick funny I have a quick
Green Bay funny story for you.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, let's hear it.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
Okay, as you guys know you and you know and
I think Jase who knows. There was like a year
and a half when I was friends with Aaron Rodgers.
I don't know, like he were I guess I don't
if we're not friends anymore whatever. So his close in
Hobart went for sale and it's kind of been viral, like,
I'm sure you guys have seen it, right, Oh that's
a cool house. So I texted him. I was like, bro,
if you would have just told me like I would
(27:15):
have rented it from you, I'm not buying that I
would occupied it would be easier to sell. So I'm
like texting and I'm getting a couple of like one
word responses, and then finally somebody's like, hey, this is
not Aaron's number anymore. Sorry. But it was literally like
a probably ten text conversation where I got a little capfished. Hey, man,
I hope you're good, been watching you just wanted you know,
(27:36):
if you want somebody to rent the house. I can
find somebody rent the house. You can't sell it. Blah
blah blah blah blah, and all of sudden like yes
on Aaron.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Imagine the text that person gets right like it's oh,
you're just innocently asking about a house after a connection,
Like I'm sure he probably keeps it somewhat private, but
I'm guessing there are a bunch of people who also
haven't talked to him in years that may have reached
out on certain stuff. Man, I would change I would
change the number, and they would have to know did
(28:01):
you just say, hey, what up, Aaron? Or were you
like what up? Like does he know it was just
what up? And just texting yeah?
Speaker 10 (28:08):
And then I was like, is this not a rod
He's like, no.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That's happened on number that's happened to me before, where
my old number was given to someone pretty quickly after
I disconnected that number, and other people have told me
that they found out that they were texting me and
the person was getting annoyed. I couldn't imagine the gravity
of it. Being Aaron Rodgers crazy. All right, well, I
hope you take down the Bulldogs tomorrow. We will be
giving the updates and yeah, you can check in hopefully
(28:32):
after a w how about that?
Speaker 10 (28:34):
Yeah for sure?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
All right, Oh, here we go, Doug Gottlieb live from
the Virgin Islands in Advancity Paradise jammed. They've got Yale tomorrow.
Umask Charleston is the game that will follow, So depending
on how Green Bay fairs, they will face the winner or
loser of that contest. And depending on how they fare,
(28:57):
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Chris Burfett will have the press for us in just
a little bit. But we were talking about this Eagles
Cowboys rivalry and it's one of the marquee games we've
(30:22):
got on the schedule. You'll see it on Fox four
to twenty five Eastern time. Coming up on Sunday in
Week twelve. We know what happened earlier this season with
Jalen Carter and the spinning incident with Dak Prescott in
the season opening game. One of the other notable pieces
of this rivalry was when Michael Irvin suffered his career
ending injury and the Eagles fans cheering as he was
(30:44):
leaving the field and while he was down injured. So
this rivalry runs deep and class is usually thrown out
the window. But prior to even Michael Irvin's injury, Eagles
Cowboys was a rivalry, and it's a rivalry that was
actually fun. Maybe not for the Cowboys, but it was
actually a fun rivalry. At one point when Buddy Ryan
(31:07):
was leading the Philadelphia Eagles and Jimmy Johnson was new
to the Dallas Cowboys. Now these two butted heads and
in nineteen eighty eight, this was Jimmy Johnson after a
game with the response by Buddy Ryan. This is when
the NFL was truly fun. This from nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Said something to Buddy, but he wouldn't stand on the
field long enough. He put his big fat rear in
into the dressing room.
Speaker 12 (31:31):
I resent that I've been on a diet, I lost
a couple of pounds, and I thought I was looking good.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Okay, imagine Jim Harbaugh saying that about Andy Reid, like
that would be like that's what it would be like,
this rivalry, that that would never ever happen in the
National Football League. And then the stakes were raised in
nineteen eighty nine when the Philadelphia Eagles had apparently put
bounties on members of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 11 (31:59):
Winning losing ball game. Of course, concerns me. Might concerns
me more than anything else is when you take away
from the integrity of the game. I mean, having bounties
on opposing players is not the way it's supposed to
be done. I mean, we were told last night by
a coach, and it is confirmed by two different players.
(32:22):
There's a two hundred dollars bounty on Lewis Zendejas, a
five hundred dollars bounty on Troy Aikman. That takes away
from the integrity of the game.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
Johnson and their coach, he's making all kind of excuses
and not preparing his team well to play us. He also,
I don't have any respect for him. Good he got
my college on probation Oklahoma State, and now he's at
the Cowboys and he can't. He doesn't have the guts
to take credit for a loss. He's trying to blame
(32:50):
the Philadelphia Eagles, and I have no respect for the
man at all, and I don't think he is if
his friend hadn't known the club, he with me back
next year. I'm sure the coach and I'm sure those players,
those veteran players he had on that team, don't believe
all at high school Charlie stuff he spreadan Call.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Me unk, call me old school, call me whatever you want.
But when we're talking about what the NFL was like
in the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties, it's not
about the players who now are way faster and stronger.
It is stuff like this to have an actual rivalry
last years between two head coaches saying the things that
they were saying. I mean, Sean Payton got suspended for Bountygate.
(33:29):
They had a three hundred dollars difference between the kicker
and the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. This was
obviously before the Cowboys became the Cowboys and they won
Super Bowls. But Buddy Ryan and Jimmy Johnson the late
Buddy Ryan going head to head in the late nineteen
eighties is something that you would never ever see in
today's National Football League.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
If you think about it now, Jimmy Johnson is a
Hall of Famer or he's going to the Hall of
Fame or whatever. He's by far had the better head
coaching career. But in that moment, Buddy Ryan was speaking
from kind of the place of being the winning NFL
head coach, and Jimmy Johnson was brand new to it.
So Buddy Ryan actually was kind of from a high
ground in each of those exchanges.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, Jimmy Johnson felt like it was punching up, but
then you have the bounty situation and trying to take
out a kicker in the video, by the way, as
grainy as it is, like you could see there was
an obvious point to try to take out some of
these players from the by the Philadelphia Eagles for the
Dallas Cowboys. But that's what we talked about NFL in
the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties. Great sound, what a rivalry,
(34:31):
and it will be renewed again this week in Arlington
between the two teams. Also, the remark by Buddy Ryan
about Jimmy Johnson not having a job unless his buddy
still has a job because his buddy was the owner,
and that buddy he's referring to is Jerry Jones. All right,
let's go to the news desk. Chris Perfett has the press.
(34:52):
The press, Chris, what do you got? All right?
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Jean, Well, one of the things you were talking about
was Eagles. With the Eagles game coming up, Jalen Hurts
did late Wednesday agree with the assessment. When asked about
RecA reports that some of his teammates and coaches have
grown frustrated with his approach, he says, I think it
definitely does hurt. I take a lot of responsibility. I
get a lot of attention went things are going well
and things are not going well. There's been recent reports,
(35:16):
of course, from Diana Rossini and veteran Eagles reporter Derek
Gunn about just how much there's been frustration with Jalen
Hurts's play so far.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'm going to say this about Jalen Hurts. You got
a five year deal in twenty twenty three, so he's
a five year extension two hundred and fifty five million dollars.
But if the Eagles ever wanted to move on from
Jalen Hurts, I actually think it makes it easier that
they've won their Super Bowl. Yeah, because as we see,
like Jalen Hurts isn't necessarily the reason that they won it.
(35:48):
But if you were close every year, you are risking Well,
if we don't have Jalen Hurts, so we don't have
this running game, how do we know if the next
guy's going to come in and be able to take
us to the spot we want to go. You've already
been to the mountain top. I actually think it makes
it easier if Philadelphia in the future ever wanted to
part with Jalen Hurtz. They wanted to make a splash,
(36:10):
they wanted to do a trade in some way. I
think it's actually easier to move on from him than
it would be if they didn't win it last year. Well,
it was a big part of winning it last year,
absolutely well.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
The debussification of the Lakers continues, sham Shimadi reporting that
the Lakers are reorganizing their basketball operations, terminating executives Joey
and Jesse Buss in their respective positions. They had been
with the Lakers for twenty years. They had scouted. They
had been in a lot of scouting roles, finding players
like Austin Reeve, Kyle Kuzma, Jordan Clarkson. But you know,
this is a new ownership here and seems like there's
(36:40):
not gonna be a bus family.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Well, Genie's still in control and as part of the
agreement that they made with Mark Walter, the Genie's going
to be the governor of the Lakers for the next
thirty for the next at least five seasons. And that
tess the press, the press baget out there and press,
that was the press. I want to lead with this, Sam,
did you see that the rise up Red Sea guys
made it to Arizona? The rise up German fans from
(37:05):
Arizona made it to their game this past weekend and
have been spending the week in Arizona wanting to drink
their beer with Trade McBride. One of the highlights of
this twenty twenty five NFL season thanks to Jason Sam
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
You can run, but you can't hide from analytics. I'm
telling you, analytics are here to stay, knows no matter
as much as you want to do away with them.
Stick to the old school method saying analytics don't mean everything.
I've got the MPM right here, Sam. Have you heard
of mph miles per hour per hour MPM? We had
(00:42):
a one we are at a one mistakes per minute
in that last segment. There were at least five mistakes
that we did in that five minute segment. But what
was worse was the carnage that went on during the break.
I mean just Haymakers Levy, back and forth between Chris
and Sane Jason was it was bloodshed during the break.
(01:03):
It was really fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I like, you know, I like smack talking, and I
don't know if Chris meant it this way, but he
definitely got the best dig in so to set the
table right, I said, by far, the worst mistake made
in the segment was that Sam had said justin fields,
and He's like, who am I supposed to know? For
the piece of crap Jets who's starting? And Chris said
(01:25):
from the top rope, Yeah, we all knew that on Monday,
and I don't think.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It was Monday. I wasn't even meaning it like that,
but it was a shot. I mean, I said twenty
sixteen instead of twenty twenty six the relevant NFL news date.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Whose brain is actually holding onto that, I guess the
real diehards?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Then, Ah, those Jets have a big showdown with the
the Baltimore Ravens coming up this weekend. In what is
kind of a funky weekend. We're talking about the lackluster
matchups that we've got in college football because of some
of the non conference games that are happening, but then
the name Actional Football League as well with all of
the backup quarterbacks or the replacement quarterbacks that we mentioned
(02:06):
in game time. Another funky week and a week with
team like the Chargers and Broncos on buy in Week twelve.
But it all starts tonight with what I think should
be a pretty good game between the Bills and the Texans.
It is Thursday. We've got that right. It is also
twenty twenty five, and you know what that means.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Don't call it a throwback th back Thursday.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
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Jason Stewart and myself. Jason, take it away, Thank you, Dan.
I'll take it from here. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I want to set the stage. Twelve years ago. Twelve
years ago, Auburn Alabama played in the Iron Bowl and
something remarkable happened. I'll set the stage chairs twenty eight
to twenty eight with a second left for Nick Saban's
Alabama team, and they wanted to kick a long field
goal to beat Auburn in the Iron Bowl, and this happened.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Well, I guess if this thing comes up short, he
can field it and run it out.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
All right, here we go fifty six yard. It's got
no does not have the leg. And when Chris Davis takes.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It in the back of the end zone, he'll run
it out to the ten fifteen, twenty, twenty.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Five, thirty thirty five, forty forty five, fifty forty five.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
There it goes Davis. Oh my god, this is going
run it all the way back. Arvert's gonna win a
football game. Aubert's gonna win a football game. They ran
the best mail go back. They ran it back one
hundred and nine yards. They're not gonna keep him up
the field to night.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Holy cow, Oh.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
My god, Auburn wits. Auburn has won the Iron Bowl.
Awbard has won the Iron Bowl in about unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Fashion you will ever see. I cannot believe it. Over
thirty four twenty eight. Then we thought a miracle of
Jordan Hare was amazing. Oh my Lord and heaven. Chris
Davis has reddit.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
One hundred nine yards and Auburn is going to the
Champions Show.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
All right, So you guys gotta fill in the gaps here.
You guys are all you guys are all college football
of fans. But this is what I know.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I know.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Alabama entered that game undefeated. I know Gus Malzan was
the head coach of Auburn. This was in the post
post cham years. I do know this. I know Florida
State eventually won the BCS title, I think the last
year of the BCS title. So fill in the gaps here?
Who was that? Did Jamis Winston Florida State team?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah? Did Alabama play in the championship game? What happened
after that? No, So Auburn actually ended up when they
talk about going to the championship game. They got to
go to the SEC Championship game where they beat Missouri
and then got a chance to face Florida State the
National Championship game out here in Pasadena. Game that I attended,
a last second victory by Florida State, Jameis Winston hitting
(05:31):
Calvin Benjamin for a game winning Touchdo I believe those
were the details of the National Championship Game? But I
actually think that the actual play itself. When we look
back at the crazy plays of college football, there's two
that standout. There's the Doug Flutie hellmery against Boston College,
(05:52):
and that's because of the sensation that Fluti was. But honestly,
the most iconic play in college football history is Stanford
cal The band is on the field. It's the most
iconic playing college football. But it wasn't like a national
championship was on the line. It wasn't like John Elway
told the band to go onto the field. There was
(06:14):
none of that. This was Nick Saban and an unbeaten
Alabama team that had been dominant in the previous years
deciding to kick a field goal of extreme length and
not only have it backfire by not going through the uprights,
that Auburn had a plan after losing I think four
(06:35):
straight iron balls at that time to actually set up
a return if the kick was that short. So there's
all of that, and then you take in the national
championship picture, the snapping of Alabama's unbeaten season and their
greatness that all falls in, which probably should make it
the greatest college football play of the modern era. I
(06:59):
would say, Chris Prophet.
Speaker 8 (07:01):
There are like three things around that play too that
we also have to take in mine. First off, on
the call you heard there, they mentioned the miracle at
Jordan Hare, which was the week prior where Alabama won
on like a last second like deflected pass that went
into the hands of one of their receivers for a
last second touchdown to beat Georgia.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, but it was Auburn for Auburn, for Auburn versus Georgia.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
But then, like earlier in that game for Alabama, I
think the drive before that field goal, there was a
ninety nine yard pass by quarterback aj mccierran that was
declared to be his heisman moment. Auburn ended up answering that.
And then two things happen on that field goal. Number One,
Nick Saban fights to get a single second back on
the clock. They originally had it at Triple zero's and
(07:43):
they were planning to go to overtime, but he wanted
them to review it. And in kind of shades of
that Big twelve championship between Texas and Nebraska way back
in the day, like they gave him the second, and
then he goes not to the main kicker, who had
missed several field goals in that game. He puts in
a true freshman to take that kick as well, So
like he's getting the second and he's trotting out a
(08:06):
kicker in probably the biggest moment of that kicker's life
to kick a sixty plus yard field fifty seven to six,
six plus the yard field goal, Like just the hubris
of Nick Saban in that moment to reach for that
and to have apparently the heavens answer him in the
worst way possible.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Just an awful decision. And rarely would you see Nick
Saban look bad in a spot like that, But it happened.
Now it allowed Auburn to go to the National Championship Game,
in which we said with Day would ultimately lose. The
twenty thirteen NFL season which stands out to me two
things in the number one, the Seahawks. It was this
year the Seahawks won the Super Bowl, so they were
thirteen to three. They were the best team in the
(08:47):
NFC that year. They had ultimately the great win over
the forty nine ers in the NFC Championship Game, and
then they beat the Broncos. But the other part of
the actual twenty thirteen season stood out. Guys. I went
to a Houston Texans game. It was against the Indianapolis
Colts and it was in October, and it was a game.
(09:08):
You guys, ever have fantasy games where you just remember, man,
I remember when I was down X amount of points
and so and so had that great game. I had
t Y Hilton and Andre Johnson on my team and
I was down by about forty points going into Sunday
Night Football. The final score was Colts win twenty seven
(09:29):
to twenty four. Just to let you know, t Y
Hilton had seven catches three touchdowns on the game for
the Indianapolis Colts, his passing total one hundred and twenty
one yards. Andre Johnson had nine catches for two hundred
and twenty nine yards in three touchdowns. I came back
from out of nowhere to win a fantasy football game
(09:49):
because of those two wide receivers and was in the
building to watch it. There is nothing like it that
happened in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's euphoria, pure fantasy euphoria. Now, if you set the
stage a little bit, I think that was Andrew Luck's
rookie season because Peyton Manning was having like a world
beating season for the Broncos before losing to your Seahawks.
If I'm not mistaken, yes, so Andrew Luck. They take
with a top pick, and Andrew Luck delivered your fantasy euphoria.
(10:17):
Uh you, said Matt Schaub. Matt Shopp was quarterback tase Keenum.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I was, Yeah, I was in case Keenum was the quarterback. Yeah,
how about that? How about these names Ben Tate? Remember
Ben Tate? Running back? Donald Brown led the Colts in rushing.
You only had six perries in the Yukon Yes. Was
he a first round draft case? Yes, Hemember when he
got drafted, he was in a living room.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
He was the running back on the Yukon team that
played Oklahoma. I believe in a BCS game when they
somehow back in and they're.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Another great part of BCS history.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
And they got smoked. But Donald Brown, I think he
kind of disappeared after a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But he had a nice little career his career. Yeah, absolutely,
What else happened in twenty thirteen? Pet, you have a
twenty thirteen sports highlight? Iowa say sports highlight?
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Well, I mean, I'm trying to think besides ORB winning
the Kentucky Derby, I was mostly looking at music from
that year, like this was a weird music year that
I think we still have some hits sitting around.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Let's th frill down on that Kentucky Derby for the music. Yes,
what happened that year?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I remember or.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
I've I've been loving getting into like horse horse race history,
but like Orb was the Kentucky Derby winner. Uh, I
just remember it as being like we've had yes, hail
the ORB, ponder the ORB. We've had some incredibly sloppy
Kentucky Derby's and sloppy in meaning like that. It's been wet,
muddy discussing, but I think twenty thirteen might have been
the wettest and most disgusting, just mud flying everywhere in
(11:44):
that in that race. Just by by the end of it,
everyone's covered in films.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's the perfect transition. He goes from colts to cult right,
like there is that that was just that was there
you go, that was seamless well done. If only Colt
McCoy was the quarterback for the Texans.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
Since well I did you just mentioned Texas in that
Texas Nebraska game front But that wasn't twenty thirteen, It's correct,
I was Colt McCoy there though, Yes.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, he was in the he had been in the
league for several years, right because he was the quarterback
in Texas in like twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I covered a game Colt McCoy won at Nebraska in
two thousand and six in Lincoln. I remember that very well.
You want to know what happened in the year in
golf quickly, let me get that out of the way. Yeah,
it was actually a really good year for golf. Adam
Scott ends up winning the Masters, winning his first major
and his only major, winning in a playoff over on
(12:33):
Hell Cabrera. Scott had blown the Open Championship the year before,
bogied his final four holes, allowing Ernie Els to win,
so he wins there. Justin Rose wins his only major
of his career in twenty thirteen, winning at Marion. Phil
Mickelson an awful shot on the power three thirteenth really
ended out his hopes of getting that career Grand Slam.
(12:55):
But he didn't have the Career Grand Slam in his
mind at that point because he had yet to win
an Open champion Chip, something that he did a month
later at Mierfield, and then Jason Duffner won the PGA
Championship at Okhill. But I think most people remember Adam
Scott winning in the rain at the Masters, even more
so than Phil or Justin Rose winning.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I don't think enough attentions given to this that Adam
Scott had a really good golf career and then went
on to star in Severance. Isn't it doesn't get much
attention at all. But as Adam Scott was winning that major.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I loved him in this Boy Meets World role too,
that was very limited.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But Step Brothers very Step Brothers career. He's had great
role in Step Brothers. But he was listening to music
on the on the Pudding Green before that major, really
and a reporter asked him, you know what tunes are
you listening to as you're getting ready to try to
win this major, and Adam Scott said it was this song.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh man, I think she's back with a new album.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
This is Ward Royals top the Billboard one hundred for
five weeks in the year twenty thirteen. Now Lord is
an Australian or New Zealand or somewhere down under. I
want to say she's New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Oh that's what it is. Zee Kiwi. She's a Kiwi.
I want to say.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Her albums since this have been kind of the law
of diminishing returns. This was a massively commercially successful album
and I think she was sixteen years old or something
crazy and then her music sense is kind of tailed
off a little bit for my taste. But this is
Lord Royals. What do you remember best of from Lord
(14:38):
Dan She.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Had this really high tech stainless steel drinking cup that
was like fifty bucks and they call it Lord Stanley Cup.
And that's how the Stanley drink. That's incredible. Yeah, it
became so popular. That's at least that's what I what
I know from it.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Yes, I just realized we're forgetting probably one of the
huge moment from twenty thirteen NBA Finals Miami Heat San
Antonio Spurs Game six, with Miami Heat fans leaving the
arena early and and yeah, well they were down. How
much were they down by at that point? I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't know you brought it up. I can't remember
off off hand.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
It's it was Ray Allen's shot. Yeah, yeah, but I
was just trying to remember. I was just trying to
remember how far down they were. Just but that shot.
I will always remember that shot.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
How about this trick question? Who won the NCAA Tournament
in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That would be a team that later had to have
it taken down the Louisvia Cardinals.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
I thought you were going to say nobody. Nobody did
because it was what it was. It was, uh, what's
the term for vacated? That was a rat. That was
the game, That was the run. But he had suffered
the injury in the regional final, right, okay, but that
was Rick Patino.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
That was Louisville's first national championship since nineteen eighty six,
if my research that is correct.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And they beat they beat who Dan? They beat Michigan?
They did. I bet you liked that. I did at
the time. Absolutely, I'm just glad they didn't elevate Michigan
to be national champions at that point. Just nobody wins. Now.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Did Rick Patino ever acknowledge or accept the fact that
he knew about all these awful things that were happening
under his watcher? Did he deny it straight through? Was
that how that went down? Well?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
There was, I don't want to say, because I can't
remember offhand. Well, I think that there were.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I was just I was just trying to set up
a segue. So Rick Patino was acting like you didn't
know what was going on in his basketball program. Matthew
McConaughey was winning the Best Actor for Dallas Buyer's Club.
Everyone remembers he lost upwards of one hundred pounds to
play that role of some one with Uh. That was
HIV positive great year in movies, to be honest. Uh,
(17:05):
gravity was that year. Captain Phillips Twelve Years of Slave
brought Home the Oscar.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
But my favorite movie of the year that that keeps
getting better with each watch. Have each of you seen
I know the answer from Dan The Wolf of Wall
Street more than once.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I've only seen it once, so I have seen it
only seen it once? Yes? Did you love it? I did?
I enjoyed it? Yes, I did. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Can I say this about the movie. I saw it
one time in theaters. I love the first half of
the movie, and then the second half was nothing but
partying on yachts and it just kept going and going.
And I love Scorsese, but he's usually his movies are
about three plus hours. The last half of that movie
was just a lot of redundant partying and it just
and screaming a lot of screaming men screaming about making money.
And I was like, you know what, this is gonna
(17:53):
end up low on the list for me of Scorsese movies.
I know it's you watch it's yeah, I I but
that's kind of the theme, right, like not too much,
not to spoil historical events or something. The whole point
of the movie is these guys all get away with
There is never a moment in in Bellefort's life in
that movie where he is making unlike, you know, stuff
(18:13):
like Goodfellas, where you know, Henry Hill has to go
live and you know, get egg noodles with ketchup. Like,
there's never a moment that the bark of the film
of Goodfellas that I liked it. I just felt like
Wall Street just went too long, too much partying nats
in the second half, too much men screaming about me.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
That's the point, though, is that little from the that
Wire Street era who did all these crimes, were never
taking a task, never got away with all of it,
and Bellefort came back and started doing this all over again.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It was the excess of of capitalism with no consequences.
That was the theme. But I will say this, watch
it again, you're gonna love it. It's one of those
movies that gets better each time you watch it.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
The Quailude scene with the car well, I think that
was the first half of the movie though.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But I remember that last time in my algorithm, this
scene when the FBI agents on the yacht with him,
they did one of those somebody put together what the
script was and what Leo. Yes, I did, and so
that actually popped up in my algorithm yesterday. It's really
really good, just like this segment. And don't call it
(19:16):
a throwback.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Larry Bird's not walking through that door.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Don't call it a Throwbacktino and Louisville.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
We're in a lawsuit to which you was ultimately settled.
So I think to answer your question, no, I think
that would be the answer.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
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Speaker 2 (19:45):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer
sitting in for Doug. We're gonna hear from the head coach, though.
Doug's gonna join us live in advance of the Paradise
Jam as his Green Bay Phoenix are going to be
competing over the next couple of days the US Virgin Islands.
We'll hear from Doug in a second. If you missed
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end of the show. The head coach of the Green
Bay Phoenix who is live from the US Virgin Islands
in Saint Thomas in advance of their showdown in the
Paradise Jam tomorrow against Yale. It's the coach, Doug Gottlieb,
(20:30):
appearing on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Hello Doug, how are you?
Speaker 10 (20:34):
No? No, no more my tides. No, I'm good. I
gotta do a radio interview.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
No more?
Speaker 10 (20:39):
Oh, no more drinks? Oh hey, guys, what's up?
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I thought this was a work trip. I didn't realize
that this was a vacation. I thought you're there to
go three and O. But drinks are flowing. What's going
on now?
Speaker 10 (20:50):
I'm actually I'm at what is this? Ivana El Dora
teen high school where just stepping out of we're just
shooting at the end of So it definitely is a
work trip and it has been. It has been a
schlep to get down here. You know what's interesting you
find out about the Virgin Downs. First of all, it's
beautiful and everybody's super friendly, but it's like the one
(21:12):
place that you can't you can't get there's very difficult
to get through on a one stopper from Green Bay. Right,
you can go Charlotte, you can go Houston, you can
go New York, you can go Atlanta, you can go Dallas.
You can't go Chicago, Minneapolis or Detroit, which are so Yeah,
it's it's a bit to get down here, but I
can see why people get down here.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
What was the itinerary? What did you guys? Where'd you
guys go?
Speaker 10 (21:37):
Well, we were supposed to leave at five point thirty
in the morning yesterday, fly through Atlanta and then Atlanta
to hear Our first flight was delayed four hours, so
the guy's got to sleep in. But we flew to
Atlanta and then we practiced at the Hawks facility, stayed
the night in Atlanta, had a good meal, and then
caught up reasonable plight. It was actually not bad, but
again you just kind of burn a day when you
(21:59):
could have been getting the just dial in time.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, and you guys play game number one tomorrow against
the Yale Bulldogs from the IVY League. I am curious,
what is as a coach, what is the advantage of
playing in these holiday games, in these holiday tournaments at
this time?
Speaker 10 (22:17):
Well, I mean again, the first thing is I'm an
inexperienced coach, and if I could do it again, I mean,
talk to me in a week, I probably wouldn't do
it again. So an MTE gives you at least until
next year. Next year it changes an MT. That's what
all these events are. You get one additional game on
your schedule. So this year we can play thirty one games.
(22:38):
You can play thirty two if you play an MT. Okay,
so gives you an additional game for us, like it
would be nearly impossible the competition we're playing. So we'll
play Yale and win or lose. We play the winner
loser of College to Charleston or UMass. Right, So the
chances of us, the only chance we have of playing
those teams are in a neutral side event or on
(22:59):
the road. They don't play Green Bay home at home.
Generally they do not unless there's unless there's you know,
trying to bring a coach home or a player home
or whatever. So it gives us a higher level of competition.
The issue for us is like this is everybody's a
higher level than us. There's nobody at our level. So
I think that you can raise money doing it if
(23:19):
you have a big following, and some of the schools
that do, they make a bunch of money selling these trips.
You can auction off these trips as well. It's great
for the players, right, like we're in Green Bay. I mean,
everybody knows it's frozen tundra. It's eighty five eighty four,
eighty five eighty five. Every day we're here is that.
And again also three and four days, I think you
get to learn about your team because if we're really honest,
(23:42):
nobody really knows what they have just yet, or what
they want to do, or who they want to play.
And you're forced to play extra guys. You're forced to
play a little left handed in these events. So there
are added things other than just traveling to a tropical
location where you get to hang out and have a
good time.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, Doug Gottlieb joining us on The Doug Gottlieb Show
Live for the Virgin Islands. I'm Dan Byer and Doug's
usual chair. The reason I asked it wasn't because it
was a weighted question of why do you play these
It is what are the advantages and disadvantages. It could
be camaraderie, getting your guys just to hang out for
you know, three to four days, you know, in a
in a different location. I know certain college football programs
(24:17):
always would like to schedule or try to schedule maybe
a game in Hawaii or Las Vegas to your point,
for their fan base to travel to go and have
something to do. So, you know, there are a lot
of reasons for this, and so that's why I asked them.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
There's another reality of it, Dan, There's another reality of it,
which is it's really hard to get thirty two games
into the into the number of weeks that we have
once when conference play starts in December. So yes, camaraderie
is definitely part of it. And honestly, I pulled my
guys aside last night because they were awesome. You know,
they thought they were going to have to get up
at two and they end up getting We got them
a texta just in time, so they slept in. But
(24:51):
they all rolled with it. And you know what I
told them is like, hey, but this is going to
serve you well. If you want to do this sports thing,
do you want to do this basketball thing, or do
you want to do this life thing? You got to
learn the role with it, Like what the itinerary is?
It changes, especially when you go to outside the contiguous
United States. So all of those things, and the last
thing is like, look, I have two kids that before
(25:12):
this year they'd never flown on a plane before. Really
we just we yeah, we forget there. Some of them
ninety years old. I haven't done that much. None of
them been here before. We got one coach has been here.
I haven't been here before. You get all these games
against I mean, we're playing the team that's the everyone.
They got every vote as the favorite for the IVY League.
They're really really good, right, we play a really high
(25:34):
level of competition. We have to figure our team out
with do so in Paradise and yeah, by the way, yeah,
we get to know each other better and we get
to learn about our team a lot better. What we have,
which we're still kind of figuring out.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Doug gottlie began joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. What is the setup considering
you guys just got in the do they have you
up at a resort? I mean, is there? Yeah, you
know their ways to.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
Keep it's a Western It's sweet, okay, I mean you
know we're not Yeah, that's sweet.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You're not roughing it at all.
Speaker 10 (26:04):
No, although we had it's called a Safari bus, right,
so we have one of those buses here thirty minutes
on these lining roads that have no doors or windows.
It's just open air. And let me tell you that stuff.
It was a little harry for a while. So there's
there's a little bit of something there.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Oh, there's also an apparent rooster.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
There's two roosters the practice however, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, uh yeah, that would mean time is up.
Speaker 10 (26:31):
That's all that would that would that would mean time
is up. But anyway, and then tomorrow we're playing when
you guys are broadcasting, so or yeah, I know, we'll
be done right before you guys go on the show,
So I give you a full recap especially we went
I'll definitely give you the full recap, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, Aeron Torres and myself will be in for you
tomorrow as you get set for the Paradise Jam. And
then it's at the Universe.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
I have a really quick funny I have a quick
Green Bay funny story for you.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, let's hear it.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
Okay, as you guys know you and you know and
I think Jase who knows. There was like a year
and a half when I was friends with Aaron Rodgers.
I don't know, like he were I guess I don't
if we're not friends anymore whatever. So his close in
Hobart went for sale and it's kind of been viral, like,
I'm sure you guys have seen it, right, Oh that's
a cool house. So I texted him. I was like, bro,
if you would have just told me like I would
(27:15):
have rented it from you, I'm not buying that I
would occupied it would be easier to sell. So I'm
like texting and I'm getting a couple of like one
word responses, and then finally somebody's like, hey, this is
not Aaron's number anymore. Sorry. But it was literally like
a probably ten text conversation where I got a little capfished. Hey, man,
I hope you're good, been watching you just wanted you know,
(27:36):
if you want somebody to rent the house. I can
find somebody rent the house. You can't sell it. Blah
blah blah blah blah, and all of sudden like yes
on Aaron.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Imagine the text that person gets right like it's oh,
you're just innocently asking about a house after a connection,
Like I'm sure he probably keeps it somewhat private, but
I'm guessing there are a bunch of people who also
haven't talked to him in years that may have reached
out on certain stuff. Man, I would change I would
change the number, and they would have to know did
(28:01):
you just say, hey, what up, Aaron? Or were you
like what up? Like does he know it was just
what up? And just texting yeah?
Speaker 10 (28:08):
And then I was like, is this not a rod
He's like, no.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That's happened on number that's happened to me before, where
my old number was given to someone pretty quickly after
I disconnected that number, and other people have told me
that they found out that they were texting me and
the person was getting annoyed. I couldn't imagine the gravity
of it. Being Aaron Rodgers crazy. All right, well, I
hope you take down the Bulldogs tomorrow. We will be
giving the updates and yeah, you can check in hopefully
(28:32):
after a w how about that?
Speaker 10 (28:34):
Yeah for sure?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
All right, Oh, here we go, Doug Gottlieb live from
the Virgin Islands in Advancity Paradise jammed. They've got Yale tomorrow.
Umask Charleston is the game that will follow, So depending
on how Green Bay fairs, they will face the winner or
loser of that contest. And depending on how they fare,
(28:57):
it'll either be Saturday or Sunday. As you heard me mention,
Doug's going to be out tomorrow because of that game.
So it's me and Aaron Torres with you on Fox
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Speaker 2 (29:41):
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In for Doug. You just heard Doug is He's live.
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Chris Burfett will have the press for us in just
a little bit. But we were talking about this Eagles
Cowboys rivalry and it's one of the marquee games we've
(30:22):
got on the schedule. You'll see it on Fox four
to twenty five Eastern time. Coming up on Sunday in
Week twelve. We know what happened earlier this season with
Jalen Carter and the spinning incident with Dak Prescott in
the season opening game. One of the other notable pieces
of this rivalry was when Michael Irvin suffered his career
ending injury and the Eagles fans cheering as he was
(30:44):
leaving the field and while he was down injured. So
this rivalry runs deep and class is usually thrown out
the window. But prior to even Michael Irvin's injury, Eagles
Cowboys was a rivalry, and it's a rivalry that was
actually fun. Maybe not for the Cowboys, but it was
actually a fun rivalry. At one point when Buddy Ryan
(31:07):
was leading the Philadelphia Eagles and Jimmy Johnson was new
to the Dallas Cowboys. Now these two butted heads and
in nineteen eighty eight, this was Jimmy Johnson after a
game with the response by Buddy Ryan. This is when
the NFL was truly fun. This from nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Said something to Buddy, but he wouldn't stand on the
field long enough. He put his big fat rear in
into the dressing room.
Speaker 12 (31:31):
I resent that I've been on a diet, I lost
a couple of pounds, and I thought I was looking good.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Okay, imagine Jim Harbaugh saying that about Andy Reid, like
that would be like that's what it would be like,
this rivalry, that that would never ever happen in the
National Football League. And then the stakes were raised in
nineteen eighty nine when the Philadelphia Eagles had apparently put
bounties on members of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 11 (31:59):
Winning losing ball game. Of course, concerns me. Might concerns
me more than anything else is when you take away
from the integrity of the game. I mean, having bounties
on opposing players is not the way it's supposed to
be done. I mean, we were told last night by
a coach, and it is confirmed by two different players.
(32:22):
There's a two hundred dollars bounty on Lewis Zendejas, a
five hundred dollars bounty on Troy Aikman. That takes away
from the integrity of the game.
Speaker 12 (32:30):
Johnson and their coach, he's making all kind of excuses
and not preparing his team well to play us. He also,
I don't have any respect for him. Good he got
my college on probation Oklahoma State, and now he's at
the Cowboys and he can't. He doesn't have the guts
to take credit for a loss. He's trying to blame
(32:50):
the Philadelphia Eagles, and I have no respect for the
man at all, and I don't think he is if
his friend hadn't known the club, he with me back
next year. I'm sure the coach and I'm sure those players,
those veteran players he had on that team, don't believe
all at high school Charlie stuff he spreadan Call.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Me unk, call me old school, call me whatever you want.
But when we're talking about what the NFL was like
in the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties, it's not
about the players who now are way faster and stronger.
It is stuff like this to have an actual rivalry
last years between two head coaches saying the things that
they were saying. I mean, Sean Payton got suspended for Bountygate.
(33:29):
They had a three hundred dollars difference between the kicker
and the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. This was
obviously before the Cowboys became the Cowboys and they won
Super Bowls. But Buddy Ryan and Jimmy Johnson the late
Buddy Ryan going head to head in the late nineteen
eighties is something that you would never ever see in
today's National Football League.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
If you think about it now, Jimmy Johnson is a
Hall of Famer or he's going to the Hall of
Fame or whatever. He's by far had the better head
coaching career. But in that moment, Buddy Ryan was speaking
from kind of the place of being the winning NFL
head coach, and Jimmy Johnson was brand new to it.
So Buddy Ryan actually was kind of from a high
ground in each of those exchanges.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, Jimmy Johnson felt like it was punching up, but
then you have the bounty situation and trying to take
out a kicker in the video, by the way, as
grainy as it is, like you could see there was
an obvious point to try to take out some of
these players from the by the Philadelphia Eagles for the
Dallas Cowboys. But that's what we talked about NFL in
the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties. Great sound, what a rivalry,
(34:31):
and it will be renewed again this week in Arlington
between the two teams. Also, the remark by Buddy Ryan
about Jimmy Johnson not having a job unless his buddy
still has a job because his buddy was the owner,
and that buddy he's referring to is Jerry Jones. All right,
let's go to the news desk. Chris Perfett has the press.
(34:52):
The press, Chris, what do you got? All right?
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Jean, Well, one of the things you were talking about
was Eagles. With the Eagles game coming up, Jalen Hurts
did late Wednesday agree with the assessment. When asked about
RecA reports that some of his teammates and coaches have
grown frustrated with his approach, he says, I think it
definitely does hurt. I take a lot of responsibility. I
get a lot of attention went things are going well
and things are not going well. There's been recent reports,
(35:16):
of course, from Diana Rossini and veteran Eagles reporter Derek
Gunn about just how much there's been frustration with Jalen
Hurts's play so far.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'm going to say this about Jalen Hurts. You got
a five year deal in twenty twenty three, so he's
a five year extension two hundred and fifty five million dollars.
But if the Eagles ever wanted to move on from
Jalen Hurts, I actually think it makes it easier that
they've won their Super Bowl. Yeah, because as we see,
like Jalen Hurts isn't necessarily the reason that they won it.
(35:48):
But if you were close every year, you are risking Well,
if we don't have Jalen Hurts, so we don't have
this running game, how do we know if the next
guy's going to come in and be able to take
us to the spot we want to go. You've already
been to the mountain top. I actually think it makes
it easier if Philadelphia in the future ever wanted to
part with Jalen Hurtz. They wanted to make a splash,
(36:10):
they wanted to do a trade in some way. I
think it's actually easier to move on from him than
it would be if they didn't win it last year. Well,
it was a big part of winning it last year,
absolutely well.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
The debussification of the Lakers continues, sham Shimadi reporting that
the Lakers are reorganizing their basketball operations, terminating executives Joey
and Jesse Buss in their respective positions. They had been
with the Lakers for twenty years. They had scouted. They
had been in a lot of scouting roles, finding players
like Austin Reeve, Kyle Kuzma, Jordan Clarkson. But you know,
this is a new ownership here and seems like there's
(36:40):
not gonna be a bus family.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Well, Genie's still in control and as part of the
agreement that they made with Mark Walter, the Genie's going
to be the governor of the Lakers for the next
thirty for the next at least five seasons. And that
tess the press, the press baget out there and press,
that was the press. I want to lead with this, Sam,
did you see that the rise up Red Sea guys
made it to Arizona? The rise up German fans from
(37:05):
Arizona made it to their game this past weekend and
have been spending the week in Arizona wanting to drink
their beer with Trade McBride. One of the highlights of
this twenty twenty five NFL season thanks to Jason Sam
and First Talk to Tomorrow,
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