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July 9, 2025 • 37 mins

Dan and Kerry in for Doug as they discuss the most exciting plays in sports in this edition of The Midway. Dan and Kerry discuss the recent misstep by MLB star Rafael Devers as he stood up Giants legend Will Clark. Chris Perfett takes the guys through "The Press".

 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
It was a piece of history last night, and we
expanded to all sports on a hump Day on The
Doug Gottlieb Show. Find Carrie on x he at Carrie
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on Fox by the way Carry. You can also find
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If you would like to chime in, are you on
Blue Sky? Carrie? Not yet? Nineteen months in running? Carrie

(00:44):
has what do you know? I've got one notification?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
All right? What are they saying? Dan?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It was actually from yesterday's show. I forgot to check in.
But if you want to follow me on Blue Sky
you can as well. Jason Stewart is here, as is
Iowa Sam. Chris Purfettes at the news desk. We're gonna
get everyone involved in the midway in just a second.
But the midway kind of is set up by what
happened last night in San Francisco. And when we say
it was history, we don't mean that it was the

(01:11):
first time in history. But it had been a while
since something like this happened in a Major League Baseball game.
Last night in San Francisco, the Giants were trailing the
Phillies in the bottom of the ninth inning by a
score of three to one, and then this happened.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Patrick hits a.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
High drive deep right center field. This one is off
the top of the wall and.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
It recohetes and it's rolling on the lorning track.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
Two runs around Bailey coming around third, Patrick Bailey.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Storess mids and inside.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
The park walk off home run.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Now we've seen everything.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Canby are in the Giants radio network. I know it
hurts Jason Stewart with the survivor pool. We were having
a rough week in our Major League Baseball survivor polls. Yes,
teams like the Phillies and the Reds and the Astros
just aren't coming through. But last night the Giants come
through get a four to three win as Patrick Bailey
had that inside the park home run. I mentioned Carrie
that it's not the first time that we have seen

(02:17):
this in Major League Baseball. It's the first walk off
inside the park home run since twenty sixteen. It's the
first for the Giants's they had one previously on Helbegan
had won in twenty thirteen, but Patrick Bailey became the
third catcher to accomplish the feat. This is where I
think it's history. Jeff Passing tweeted this last night, but

(02:40):
he was the first catcher to do so since Benny
Tait did so on August eleventh of nineteen twenty six
and prior to that, Pat Morana the Chicago Cubs, as
their catcher, had an inside the park home run August fourth,
nineteen oh seven. So we're talking almost one hundred and
twenty years of Major League baseball and this was the
third time that we had seen that sort of play,

(03:03):
a walk off inside the park home run accomplished by
a catcher, and it happened last night in San Francisco.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, for a catcher to do it, it's obviously rare.
Catchers aren't known for their speed number one, so that's
probably thrown in the equation. But also, I mean, there's
really nothing better than an inside the park home run.
It takes you back to your childhood, right, like you're
playing in the field with your friends and you just
hit the ball far enough where nobody else can catch
it and throw you out, and you run around all

(03:30):
the bases and you get to throw it in their
faces a little bit that they couldn't get to the ball.
Like it brings back that energy for me. But as
a professional team, it almost looks like Keystone Cops. Like
the ball hits off the back of the off the wall,
and Karen's to the left and the guys running to
the right and everybody chasing the ball.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
It's kind of funny. It's kind of cool to.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
See on that aspect. I love it. And that's what
I texted Jason Stewart last night. This is why, this
is why Major League baseball is great, because you have
funky walls, like I love that the Astros had a
hill in center field and the flag pole they took
it out. Neither are no longer there, but the flag
pole was in play and there was a slight incline

(04:12):
in dead center field. I like the angle of what
they have in San Francisco because you get a ricochet
like that, and what it does is it brings into
play my thoughts of what does every player do in
Major League Baseball? And Jason, I don't know if you're
alongside this, but I thought to myself, what is the

(04:34):
left fielder doing? Because in all these plays like you
have backups and this and that, so you have because
the ball was hit to the gap and right center
and so the right fielder's unable to get it. The
center fielder overplayed it because it hit the wall and
ram past him. What are you doing as a left fielder?
Are you doing your job? And it allowed Patrick Bailey
to have that inside the park home run? But I

(04:56):
think that's what made major league baseball unique. And I'm like, Jesus,
they're a lo fielder there to back him up, and
apparently there wasn't.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
I think the I think the fundamental is that the
left fielders should be cruising over he's got literally nothing
else to do. Yeah, right, that's the fundamental, and he
didn't last night.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Did they say that the last catcher to do so
was Benny Tate, Yes, good old Benny Tate. What was
that nineteen twenty six.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Nineteen twenty six.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yeah, I wonder if he knows old Obi won Tait.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Star Wars again. Maybe maybe is Sam is this Star Wars?

Speaker 7 (05:32):
Is this where we're get Yes, it's the old ben
kenobi obi wan hey uh.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Carrie says, it's the most exciting play that you have
in baseball?

Speaker 8 (05:42):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Is it the most exciting play that we have in
sports that brings us our midway? He's not getting.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Middle with you.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's time for.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
The midway.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Let's open those doors talking about exciting plays that have
in sports. Inside the park home run. I will also
say this when you have one in little league, it's
usually because there were three errors committed, right, Like, it
goes through the second baseman's legs, goes all the way
to the gap. Then the right fielder chucks it misses

(06:16):
the cutoff man. They try to throw at the third
and then it goes over the third basement's head and
the kid runs home and he tells all of his friends.
Yet and then seither park home run it was? It
was never home run. It was an E five and
E nine and e you know, or like that's that's
what it ended up being. But most exciting place you

(06:36):
think it's the most exciting play in baseball inside the
park home run?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, I think it's the most exciting.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
I think that the next big the next closest to
that would be if you if you rob a guy
of a home run, you make a crazy catch at
the wall.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I think that's right up there with it.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Interesting. I had never thought that.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Climb that wall. You gotta climb the wall. Remember Mike.

Speaker 9 (06:58):
That was like Mike Trout's first big moment on center
stage where we all knew Mic Trout's name. He went
flying up to rob a home run. In twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Denzel Clark has been doing it for the A's this season.

Speaker 8 (07:10):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know what I like in baseball, the triple play.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
You like the triple play.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I like the triple play because everything has to go right,
or everything has to go wrong for the for the
team that gets caught in the triple play. You know,
runners down first and second, ground balled down the third baseline,
boom boom boom, and it's like, wow, triple play to
in the inning or you run into it and you

(07:35):
know from bad base running. Last night's was crazy like
and there isn't a normal inside the park home run.

Speaker 10 (07:42):
No.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I would put triple play up there, at least to
the sport of baseball. I don't know if it tops
the inside of the park home run.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
I think the the actual like if you if you
took the this whole topic or the inside of the
park are out of it for the past like forty
years or whatever. I think my answer to this question
has always been a triple in baseball is the most
exciting play in sports. And I'm not talking about just
like a triple by anybody. I'm in a triple by
like those like high class speedsters, like remember Dion Sanders

(08:14):
back in the day when he came in. Andrew McCutcheon
was like a sprinter when he came in, seeing them
hit that ball in the gap and get to third
and like record time. I think Elie de la Cruz
is the fastest runner in baseball right now. So my
specific exciting play in baseball it has to be a triple,
a pure triple into the gap by one of the

(08:35):
fastest runners in the game. I don't think he gets
any better than that, especially if you see it in person.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's hayt. So don't get Ricky Henderson now do He's amazing.
I'm out there, He's amazing.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I would say this as well, with a triple, you're
not You're not slow out of the box. Oh you're
right there, You're gone, you know, like because like otherwise
you're not gonna get it. Like to Jason's point, like
you have to go. So it's right from the get go,
and you know that there's an opportunity and that then
puts pressure on the outfielders.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Yeah, those guys who Jason is speaking and speaking of
right now, they know if they make contact and it
goes in the gap, they're sprinting out anyway. They're trying
and to push. There's never a single in their mind.
They're at least pushing for two. So I get it.
I'm curious that there are other baseball scenarios. I think
triple's great. I think the robbing of the home run.

(09:24):
This may not fit our category, but I just want
to bring it up. When someone is just shy of
whatever hit for the cycle and there's an opportunity for it.
Usually if it's usually triple is the one that's the
toughest to get. But if you need a double, triple
or home run and you're watching and there's an opportunity

(09:45):
for it, for that brief moment, it's pretty exciting because
you're like, wow, it could actually happen. Like the easiest
way to do it would be to have the double
triple at home run. Then you get up, you just
slap a single in the right field and have your cycle.
But that's not normally how it is. There is some
drama in trying to complete the cycle when you have
to get that extra base hit. Well, think about it.
You said the hardest thing to achieve would be the triple.

(10:06):
I would say the hardest thing in the league to
get is an inside the park home run. So I
think they're like in the same in the same breath,
because it takes skill to do both. But also there's
a little bit of luck and excitement with that extra
hitting off the wall and carry him to the left
and the team and the guy at scores, you.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Know, and that's what would put it over the top
for me. I mean, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, let's
we can even expand this outside of baseball. I don't
know if you guys love it or not. I don't
know if it's the most exciting, but any end of
a quarter in the NBA game, or any end of
the half, I always watch to see the last the

(10:44):
keep from sixty five feet out, and it's every cameraman's
duty to get that last second shot. If it's just
a throw in to try to see if somebody makes
it from seventy eight feet, I do it. If it's
the end of the quarter, I will watch it, will
not turn away. I want to see if somebody makes
that half court shot or that three quarters court shot.

(11:05):
I love that in basketball. I don't know how many
great amazing plays there are in basketball, the most exciting
plays in basketball, but I love the last second shots
at the end of quarters and a halves.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Did you see earlier in the week the news that
they're not going to count those last second heaves as
individual misses.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
On your feuderal No, don't say that. Let it just
changed the rule.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I was about to bring it up.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
I was thinking, those those those very well known field
goal percentage champions of the past, are they gonna like,
are they gonna put asterisks on the new guys? Yeah,
but they didn't count. They counted the heaves for when
I played.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Barkley and Shaq will be complaining about it at their
new home ESPNR. That's it's terrible. I here's the other
aspect of it. It's just as good when it hits
the shot clock as it is going in, Like when
it's so far off, like not even close. That's even
just funny to me to think, like, really, that's how
far you felt that you needed to throw it, So

(12:03):
what hits the thing that's twenty five feet above the
actual hoop itself? I like that in basket.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You like that in basketball? What about your guys? Nobody
likes the hail mary at all.

Speaker 9 (12:12):
I was gonna say, I've been sitting here racking my
brain on the best play, the best play, what it
would be.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
In football?

Speaker 9 (12:18):
The hail mary is great, don't get me wrong, But
I think the most exciting plays, and it's funny because
I keep seeing people wanting to kill these off. They
all happen on special teams because either it's a punt
for it's either a kickoff return for a touchdown. I
think one of my favorite plays all time was like
the kick six, which is a you know, a missed
field goal getting returned for a touchdown. But I think

(12:40):
I've found one, and I have a specific one in mind,
and it is a blocked punt where the ball is
returned for a touchdown in case we have all forgotten
thanks to ESPN.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
WHOA he has trouble with a.

Speaker 9 (12:55):
Strap and the ball is free hits picked up by
Michigan stakes Una.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
I know you want Sean McDonough love it.

Speaker 9 (13:07):
His voice cracking, But that's fun you get when because
usually it is. It's such a hard thing, right to
set up for a field goal, to set up for
a punt. You're under so much pressure just to do
this one thing, this one thing, and it takes one
guy jumping off the sleds to blow who can blow
it up? Not just blow it up, but then he
takes it the other way for six points. That is

(13:28):
I'm out of my chit. I love about the blocked punt.
You know, it's not necessarily the touchdown portion of it,
but it's the pomp of the block that you hear
from theob Oh. Yeah, you are taking a heavy hit
with that can I uh So.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
It was an Iowa at Penn State two thousand and
nine and they had one of those aerial cameras over
a routine special teams play and Iowa's giant defensive end
Adrian Claiborne. They like follow him as a bird's eye view,
he blocks it himself, gets it on the bounce and
takes it.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
For a blocked punt for us.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, that's the other thing.

Speaker 9 (14:02):
A lot of these guys who are out there, who
are out there to block a punt or to block
a field goal, they are famously not usually they're just
big guys too. They're not being put out there to
be hyper athletic. They're out there to block something with
the mass their body. And if they grab that and
take it the other way, yeah, watch out.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
If you have a blocked field goal. There's also the
possibility of the lateral to the faster guy. Yes, yeah,
you know, that adds something to it, but I think
like the punt is way more, you know, way more rare, hey, Dan,
than that.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Yes, we were, me and Jason were talking about this
and we actually found a very old clip in the system.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Maybe you'd like to hear it.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
Well, Hire's date. Well, they have Brian Hartline and racemall
back to way Jake Kilroy's punt. He is a softbour
from Millersburg, Ohio on the game and he's averaging thirty
eight point two on the season. Gets this punt off
from his thirty seven hangs a nice high one. That
heartline will make a catch at the tenable higher state,
moving backwards to a sixth now turns it right side
to the ten fifteen heartland of the twenty twenty five

(15:00):
thirty thirty five herd line down the right sideline, middle
of meal fifty forty thirty prime heart line behind another blocker,
fifteen ten five touchdown, Bryan heart line.

Speaker 10 (15:11):
That hot cut heart It's just it so beautiful punt return.
This is this is what I like about football things
all the time. It's the countdown forty fifty, forty thirty ten.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
My buddy once said, to the forty to the fifty
fifty five, you could.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Fifty.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
He told me that because you wouldn't believe what I
did tonight he's on the eighty five.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Oh hey, Kerry, have you ever returned a punt for
a kick at any level?

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah? A punt for a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, it's got to be exhilarating.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah. And when I was nine, Oh that didn't count?
Did it? Did it count?

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Levels that I also bought a punt against Army with
my head, which wasn't was fun at all. I got
there so fast that I extended my hands out and
missed the ball and he kicked my head.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm not even joking, Like I was out like a light.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
You got the The ball didn't go far, so I
was good, but I was out the rest of that
game for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I'm going to YouTube Carrier Roads kicked in the head,
watched arm Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Football, You're right,
I think Christy, it's a good point. I would say
that the non special teams, there is something about a safety.
It's a little different. It's not more exciting than an
inside the park home run or a triple or that.
But I do like there is the safety because there

(16:30):
is anticipation. You're backed up, there's something you know, there's
pressure going on. You get the quarterback, there is a
built up anticipation. You're submitting your opponent too. Yeah, sort
of like pushing them.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
It's like a wrestling move, like you're pushing them out
of the ring or you're getting them into a pin
and then they're stuck in the end zone. Then they
have to give you two points or you get two
points out of it, and it's give you the ball
back like a hole in one.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Like if you have a hole in one when you're
playing at the Waste Management Open in Phoenix on the
sixteenth hole, like it's it's absolutely berserk.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, that's very specific.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, just because you have the crowd around you, which
leads up to the point is I've never had a
hole in one in golf in my life. I saw
one a couple of years ago there was a USGA
Girls event at bel Air Country Club and it was
the first time I'd ever seen it. I'd never been
in a group when someone had made a hole in
one in our group, and it was it was a

(17:24):
bit of like shock. But when there were only like
fifteen people around and the person that did it was
one hundred and sixty yards away that they don't necessarily know,
it was really really cool. It was really really neat
to see. But it didn't happen to me, and there
wasn't like that again, there wasn't like there weren't like
five thousand fans around to go crazy. It was I

(17:46):
don't want to say it didn't live up to the excitement,
because it was still very cool to see. Anytime that
a ball goes in, you're like, WHOA, RhoA, But it
was it was a different feat and.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
It was only fifteen people there, so who's to say
you didn't do it. I'm just saying I was watching.
I was watching. I was there as a as a
media member.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
The funny thing was is I was just taking video
of like the course and the pictures and stuff. I
recorded the shot before that just for my own like
records to and I didn't record the next person who
went up and had a hole in one. It was
still really really cool, but it was just a different
feeling than what I thought. I was saying, did you
guys growing up?

Speaker 7 (18:24):
Like in our local newspaper, there would be little blurbs
of like, yes, John Anderson was that brown Deer golf
course and he witnessed Elliott to Yes, you know Elliott
Smith or I don't know, some get a hole in
one and you had to have like a witness, And
then it was in the paper.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes I do. And you do have to have a witness.
You have to have somebody playing with you. Now just
being on your phone and being like I'm playing up
by myself. I think I got a hole in one,
just doesn't doesn't necessarily got it. You need that witness.
Then you also have to buy drinks for someone and
there are a lot of other sports different you know,
things that that can happen in an instance, and I

(19:01):
bring up the hole in one with the specifics of
what that is, but you could have the inside the
park home run at any ballpark. Yeah, that there is
any more that we're leaving on the table.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
I thought of something, so I don't think we could
have done this one even ten years ago. This is
it seems like I could say modern day phenomenon. I
think with analytics and everything, but like the pull up
on a fast break logo three in basketball, that does
something for me, Like I like, I don't know what
that is, especially if it's Kaitlyn Clark or in a
big moment, like it's just I guess because you grow up.

(19:34):
You know, I'm fifty two years old. You grew up.
You're like, oh, that's a horrible shot. Yeah yeah, but
now it's more than acceptable. And then when it goes in,
you're like, heck, yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah. I think that there absolutely is a rush to that.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
I'm also a fast break of the I'm also a
fan of the fast break alleue. I think that can
just get the crowd. Someone mentioned that already I'm sorry,
but that can get really get the crowd going, just
like heaving it down there, and Caitlyn Clark does that too,
and then someone just breakaway.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
In hockey like a penalty shot in hockey. I think
that you know, the anticipation, that build up of it,
and what you have is, you know, breakaway in soccer
the same deal.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's crazy, nocker.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
Has some no one said the game when shot like,
it's the shot clocks winding down and you take the
last shot and win it at the buzzer.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
That doesn't what's the old what's the old tweet? How's
the house?

Speaker 8 (20:23):
It go?

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Like?

Speaker 9 (20:23):
Why watch overtime playoff hockey when you could just simply
snort cocaine and ride a motorcycle out of an out
of a helicopter exactly?

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Well, one of those guys was off for a goalf
for like Game seven.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's like, wow, is every single possession it sounds like
a rush, Yes, sounds like a rush. Yes. I still
like the seventy five footer. You know, you like the heat,
you know, launch it even if it doesn't count. I
don't care.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
It went in man like it is babies and old
women getting hurt by those things that those gonna be
some grenades coming.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Over there over the uh there. It is good midway
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twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer
on Fox. Chris Purfett will give us an update from
the news desk in about eight minutes or so of
what's happening in day baseball and what happened at Wimbledon.
Earlier today, we were just talking about the Giants in
a good way, considering what they did last night to
the Phillies and having the walkoff inside the park home run.
There's another side of what the Giants are dealing with.

(21:58):
They were in the news earlier this season after acquiring
a disgruntled Rafael Devers from the Boston Red Sox and
hoping that everything a change of scenery, everything was going
to be AOKA. That wasn't necessarily the case, as we
are now coming to find out in San Francisco. Even
though Rafael Devers when he was introduced, said through his

(22:19):
interpreter that he's willing to do whatever he wants or
can do to help the Giants play whatever position. Kind
of came to a shock to Red Sox fans. Red
Sox fans probably weren't shocked when they heard Will Clark
explain the most recent situation with Rafael Devers on the
Deuces Wild podcast that he hosts with Eric Burns. Here's
Will Clark talking about what was supposed to happen as

(22:42):
let's you say, Rafael Devers was supposed to get some
tips from Will Clark Friday.

Speaker 11 (22:45):
Saturday Sunday. He did not come out early at all, period,
not at all. Matter of fact, he didn't even hit
on the field. But Rafael Devers. The next time I'm
in San Francisco, you're asked, will be on the field
at first base, Just letting you know that, even if
I got to go grab you but back of the
neck and drag your ass out there, you will.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Be at first base. So Red Sons fans hear that
and go, yes, thank you. This is the Raphael Devors
that we know as a former athlete, how do you
take that of Devers not wanting to learn the first
base craft from one of the greats of the game
in Will Clark?

Speaker 6 (23:27):
It's it just reeks of selfishment, I mean selfishness and entitledments, right, Like,
as a professional athlete, yes, you have your skill set,
you have your trade that you're probably called up to
the Big leagues or any professional sports league you know
to do. That's your job. We get it, You've done
it forever. But the other part of being a professional

(23:50):
is adaptability, being able to be ready to do whatever
is needed for your team to win. You think everybody
was everybody that's played professional has been happy with being
asked to move from from corner to safety, or from
quarterback to safety, or whatever the position change entails. No,

(24:11):
like everybody has an ego, and it's healthy to have that.
But if you're truly a team player and somebody that's
doing something for the greater good, out the greater good
of your team, outside of your own selfish thoughts, you
will be eager to do whatever it takes to win.
Plus you're not being taken off the field, you're being
moved to another position that still helps the team win.
So for me, it's just it just reeks up entitlement

(24:33):
and selfishness. And I hate it for players like this
because later on, when it's ten years down the line
or you're out of the sport and you're looking at
how you could have maximized yourself and maximize your potential
and even maximize your earnings. To put yourself in a
situation to go through something like this and hurt yourself
in the immediacy of right now. It sucks because as

(24:55):
a pro being removed from it and seeing like some
things that I made mistakes at right you would you
would wish that there was somebody in these guys' ears
giving them, giving them the right advice on how to
how to handle these moments right now, who took.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
You under their wing when you were in the NFL
are coming into the NFL.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
Yeah, Curtis Martin right away, like Curtis my favorite Martin
in New York.

Speaker 10 (25:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
You know, I came in like I.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Said, it was it felt easy easy to me, and
like rookie camps and like the mini camps and stuff
like that, where I was like, oh, I can do
I can do this. I was meant to be a
pro blah blah blah. And you kind of walk in
with that type of energy and then you have the
real guys come in, the vets who have done it
for a long time, and you feel how it's different immediately,
and you find yourself wanting to Okay, all right, yes

(25:40):
I have the athletic ability, but now I want to
I want to really learn how it is to be
a pro and to be really good at the craft.
And then you find a guy like Curtis Martin, and
you know, there's nothing bad said about the guy from
anybody that I know. You want to be around guys
like that, and so for me it was it was
a Curtis Martin. So, Curtis Martin is your teammate in
New York. No, Will Clark isn't a teammate of Raphael Devers,

(26:02):
and I hated Will Clark when I was a kid.
I don't know unless you are a San Francisco Giant fan.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I listen, I was. I like the Astros and Brewers
when I was a kid. You know, Brewers home Down team.
Astros were at that time in a different well they
are right now in a different league. They both have
switched leagues. But I couldn't stand Will Clark. I can't
imagine what it was like being a Dodger fan and
watching Will Clark play. But that's where I'm offended with

(26:29):
all of you hated Will Clark to Jason Stewart, I
imagine quite the opposite.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
It's a real It's a weird one for me. So
here's my personal story with Will Clark. I taught myself
how to switchheit, and my left handed swing emulates Will Clark.
I've watched hours and hours of tape of him. The
way he swings the bat maybe the most beautiful thing
in baseball ever. So yeah, no, I had to reconcile

(26:54):
that with him being a Giant, but him as an individual.
That's why this story, maybe it pisses me off a
little bit more that he stood up a guy that
I remember looking up to so much.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And that's where I was going to the place of
Will Clark's not his teammate, Like Rafael Devers is going
to be probably the guy in the clubhouse. He wasn't.
He's not just a rookie being called up right, so
he feels that he's the guy. But you go to
a new team and you disrespect a legend within that team. Now,

(27:25):
I may not be to the level of Willie Mays
and Barry Bonds and Willie McCovey, but he is a
darn good player and a name that was represented with,
you know, in line with the San Francisco Giants. The
San Francisco Giants when I was growing up were Will
Clark and Jeffrey Leonard. Like that's the Giants that I remember,

(27:47):
at least, you know, in the late eighties in them
coming up. And so to have him disrespect Will Clark
a member of the Giants family and do it on
three separate occasions Friday, I'm giving a huge benefit of
the doubt to be like, you know, it's different, blah

(28:08):
blah blah, this happening. You know, I'll be able to
your Saturday and Sunday but to not do it for
three straight games. Yeah, completely disrespectful, and and and Boston
right now seemingly having the last laugh. And now you
look back at all the conversations of how did the
how did the Red Sox deal Rafael Devers? And how
did nobody else know about this? And how why wasn't

(28:30):
there a bidding market from it? Like this may have
been another reflection why of the Red Sox just couldn't
wait to get him out of town because of stuff
like this?

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Yeah, well, I mean just for that instance alone, with
the Will Clark situation, I mean, Raphael Devers doesn't have
to do that, so it's not also a something that's
mandatory that he has to do. Obviously, Will Clark wants to,
you know, give some assistance, help him out. You probably
give him some pointers and do the whole deal. And
you know, graciously you think that Devers would be on

(29:02):
board with that.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
But this isn't something that he has to do.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
So this individual story doesn't irk me as much as
me seeing it from the outside and as a player,
knowing that all these instances add up and people do
keep count.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Just show up. Yeah, you know, it's it's all you
had to do, Like maybe we could have heard stuff
like you know, Will Clark didn't like his attitude, or
Rafael Devers didn't necessarily care. It's a whole completely different
thing than to just blow him off like he did
for three straight days.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Jason Carry, You're right, Like the entitlement also comes with
this too, Right, Yeah, he's in the midst of a
three hundred and thirteen million dollar contract, right, giants are
on their hook for two hundred and fifty million, And
like it speaks to that whole thing of like you
got to know who you're giving money to. Yes, because
he's he's not He's taken that attitude and now he's
empowered with the contract. So he pulled that maneuver in

(29:53):
red with the Red Sox. It was totally selfish that
they traded him away, Right, And then he gets to
the he's in the honeymoon phase and he's pulling the
same thing. And it also speaks to he doesn't have
the self awareness to know his limitations, like the reason
why they said we don't want you to play third
base anymore because we have somebody better. Right, you know,
your limitations as a player, you need to be aware of,

(30:16):
especially with this contract. So there's so much to this
that I'm thinking the other twenty follower guys in that
in that clubhouse have got to be like, what the
hell does this guy's deal?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I had a buddy who shall rename nameless, very very
short marriage, like we're gonna say it didn't last two months.
And so like when he allows me that it's not working,
you know, I'm like, I was just at your wedding,
Like what are you talking about? You know these weeks later,
right all right? And when did you When did you realize?
And he goes he goes on the honeymoon like like

(30:50):
it's like it started like right there, like right after
the wedding, like he felt that she became a different person.
Whether he was at fault, she was at fault, one
of the case was. But he said his first first
like thing was at the honeymoon. And so I'm like, wow,
even at the honeymoon, that happened. So that honeymoon phase
is what you uh, yeah, wow, that happens. Life comes

(31:11):
at you fast.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
It does, it does.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
And then when you get and when you when you're
when you're out of that situation and you have you
don't have the roll with colored glasses on anymore, and
you get to look at some of the mistakes and
choices you made as a as a human, then yeah,
you'll you'll you'll look back and say, I probably wish
I would have done something different the Red Sox.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Do not trade her to my buddy. That could have also,
I thought that next you should have vetted her with
her previous exes.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
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Speaker 9 (32:05):
Chris Hey, Dan Hey, Carrie so Deon Sanders is back
at Big twelve media days after something of a health
scare that he recently went through. Naturally, being back in
the spotlight and being the big issues swirling around the
college ranks, it remains NIL and the possibility of guardrails
and regulations. He was clearly asked about it. Here's what
he had to say.

Speaker 10 (32:25):
How do you believe NIL should be guardrailed now?

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Especially with the revenue sharing era?

Speaker 12 (32:29):
I wish it was a cat, you know, like the
top of the line player makes this, and if you're
not that type of guy, you know you're not gonna
make that.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
That's what the NFL does.

Speaker 12 (32:37):
So the problem is you got a guy that's not
that darn good, but he could go to another school
and they give him a half a million dollars and
you can you can't compete with that.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
That don't make sense.

Speaker 12 (32:47):
And you're talking about equality, not equality like equal I
think to equality. And all you have to do is
look at the playoffs and see what those teams spent.
And you understand during the white end the playoffs, it's
kind of hard to compete with somebody who's giving twenty
five thirty million dollars of during freshman class, right it is.

(33:08):
It's crazy. We're not complaining because all these coaches are here.
In a coach at butts often given the right opportunity
with the right players and play here and there you'll
be there, but it's what's going on right now don't
make sense.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Dianne Sanders. I understand that portion of it, and I
think there has to be a cap somewhere, but I don't.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
The way he explained it was like a tiering of players,
and I just don't. I'd almost rather have somebody overpay
for a kid that isn't as good. You know that
was in my conference.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
Now, that's the point I was going to Dan, So,
I mean, yes, the guardrails need to be there, they
need to figure that out. But if he's not that good,
it doesn't matter. So why you're worry about who pays him?

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
The other portion of this is what Dion says is
something that Doug says a lot here is just when
you're gonna see the Final four and you're gonna see
college football playoffs, it's whoever spends the most that you're
going to see. That's what Dion shares the opinion of.
I do there needs to be some sort of cap
at some point, And I think Brett you or Mark

(34:10):
yesterday and talking about the model he's saying right now,
it doesn't look like this model is good for us.
But if we went with the five plus eleven, it
would be good later on. I think he's expecting bigger
nil proceeds going to their schools and their conference, maybe
even the Texas school schools. We see Texas Tech stepping
up in a lot of ways. Maybe they're on the
rise as a potential program. But I think he's just

(34:33):
worried about the Ohio States and the Alabamas and the others,
you know, completely getting out of hand, all.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Right, guys.

Speaker 9 (34:40):
Major League Baseball announced today that they will be using
the Automated Balls and Strike System in the All Star
Game here in Atlanta. They had tried it out in
spring training and seventy two percent of fans that they
had pulled said it was improvement. But I know from
reading that players are a little more mixed, so some
of them like having the human umpire elements to that game,

(35:00):
the idea of framing a pitch. So but either way,
it seems like we are an expertly heading towards this
ABS system. And I'll just say this, once that's out
of the camp, once that's out of the bottle, it
stays out of the bottle.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
It's kind of hard to put it back.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Well, I'll say this, I think college football perfect segue
to baseball. College football wants humans to decide the polls
and the rankings, and then they don't like it, so
they're like, let's go to computers. Then the computers spit
on a number. They don't like it, Like, let's just
get people who watch football, Let's get people who know football.
I think if you went to an ABS system, I
think at some point there would inevitably be the fallback

(35:35):
to let's just get real people. There is too this
is too borderline. It's that's what I think would ultimately
happen with this. What I do like about this is
it's like, hey, let's just crap on the umpires during
the All Star Game. Let's show how bad they are.
It's a showcase of the players, but it's also a
showcase to show how bad our umpiring has been, especially

(35:57):
behind the plate this season.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
Yeah, the human sub activity to it all is I
think the endearing part of sports in general, right, Like,
humans mess up, Like if you have this thing that's
supposed to be one hundred percent correct, then it's just
it kind of dulls it out for me. So I
would miss the human part of it.

Speaker 9 (36:15):
As a soccer fan the var side of things. Uh again,
once you once you, once the geniees out of the bottle,
there's no going back, and you'll find yourself stimmied by
stuff that's just on the line.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I want to give Jason Stewart, Jason, do you want
to I know you're always vocal about ABS the All
Star Game, for it, against it.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
No, I'm definitely for ABS, and they should have done
it like two years ago. Okay, they've had this slow,
weird rollout where they did it in spring training and
now they're going to do it in an exhibition game.
So you're telling me that your brightest stars are going
to look like a holes if they challenge a ball
striking an exhibition game to make your umpire look bad?
Like who wins in this decision? Like why why put

(36:55):
it out in an All Star Game?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Imagine imagine getting them not I will get the honor
of being the homeplate umpire at the All Star Game
for the world to see, and they can see how
bad I am at my job and see I mean,
I think Nico Horner's taunting that he got tossed for
when he tapped the top of his helmet, which would
instigate a review earlier this year. One of the greatest

(37:18):
taunts that we had seen in Major League basic.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
You know how scard I am. And when you said Nico,
I thought Nico Harrison too. The Meraficks, I thought he
did well.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Man Suppress, great job, Chris Perfepress and Iowa Sham.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Carrie.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
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