November 25, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan and Monse in for Doug as they share the stories that did not hit the radar on Monday in this installment of "Tuesday Morning Quarterback". Dan and Monse test how well they know the famous "Super Bowl Shuffle". Plus, Dan and Monse talk about the Lane Kiffin Situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
A happy Tuesday to you. Yeah, many taking the day
off getting ready for Thanksgiving week.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You know, I enjoying Taco Tuesday. Tequila Tuesday my preference
back home.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You know what it is, it's gun deer season. You
have a week where you can shoot deer with a
rifle with a gun, and so it starts started last
Saturday and goes through next Sunday. It's Thanksgiving week. You
could get a pass if you wanted to miss school
on Monday and Tuesday, you could get a special pass
to say you were hunting and you would be excused
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from school yesterday or today. I think that's still the
case so much. They're gonna die an a lot of
them are. The deer are gonna die anyway, so don't
think of it is a bad thing. They're not gonna
make it through the winter. They're gonna be all over
the place, it's it's actually a good thing. But for
about yes, about nine days, nine days you have an
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opportunity to use a gun to shoot the deer that
are running around the fields in the great state of
Whats going is this? Oh? Yeah, this is an annual
like this is a high point. Like families have their cabins,
they'll stay there for the week at least opening weekend,
which was this past weekend. Rights of passage for many
a youth being able to go on a hunting trip.
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This is why people have land. That's why they purchase
land to go hunting. Io, Sam, you know what I'm
talking about, right, Yeah, to.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
A lesser degree, like I guess because you guys have
more timber up there, so you know, but we have
plenty of deer in Iowa. Do people look at it
as an opportunity to swap out the turkey for venison?
Is like maybe we'll eat venison for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
No, No, not at all, because a lot of what people
do is they'll they'll make venison, they'll make venison jerky,
they'll make venison steaks, They'll do a lot of stuff
with the meat. Some donate at the food banks as well.
It's the whole deal. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Absolutely, there's a lot of deer in Iowa. They almost
like need to be thinned out exactly. I know that
sounds crazy, but it's like they're eating all your hostage.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It really sounds. It sounds I think for where Moncey
grew up and where she's from in the city of
Los Angeles. Sounds very foreign, but it's not when you're
experiencing those sort of things.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Yeah, I really don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
They're cute.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
They're cute, but they will eat all your plants and
they just proliferate.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah. It's also it's going to be winter, like they're Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That's that's so you're putting them out of their misery
ahead of time.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, and you're you can use the meat for other
This is is this. I almost feel like like we
don't really talk politics here, but almost like this is
like as close as you can get to the line
because I feel like Manzi's looking at like on the
other side of things.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Ah, yeah, I just that's just yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
I'm not a hunter myself, but I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I get it. Jason Stewart, you're a Southern California native,
lived your life here, do you find anything odd about
the conversation that we're talking about.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Not odd. I'm not a hunter, I'm not a gun owner.
I don't. I don't really relate to that at all,
having grown up where Monster grew up. And then I
also I was a big, big fan of the Smiths
and my one of my favorite albums by the Smiths
is Meat is Murder. Stephen Morrisey is the lead singer
of the Smiths. He's very vegetarian, like Monsey is. So
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I understand both sides. That's very boring, but I'm not
into it, and I understand the side that thinks it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I think that it's I think that it's just tough
to understand if.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You aren't if you aren't there, absolutely absolutely, it's hard
for me to grasp it.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
But you know, you know, okay, okay, I didn't know
this was a thing.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
But you could get out of school, like you could
get that's the great part about it, like and then go.
They had a special pass that you would be excused
on Monday and Tuesday. Yes, that's the week that we
are in. I feel that this show has taken an
interesting turn.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Let's take your calls.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Yeah, this is brand new information.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But I guess okay, all right, you know that's that's
what happens in places now.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Isaac is trolling us with Bambi gifts.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, you're not. You're not shooting fonds.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
You guys, you're not.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Yeah, And if you remember Bamby, it wasn't Bamby who gets.
Speaker 8 (04:25):
You know, you guys are missing the even more important
issue here. If people in Wisconsin get Monday and Tuesday
off for school, people in California should get Monday and
Tuesday off for school.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
That's the bigger thing here. That's my bigger gripe.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's like the it's like the smoke breaks, you guys
are saying, like, there's if you don't smoke, you don't
get the break. I didn't hunt, so I wasn't off
Monday and Tuesday. I went to school.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I would have pretended to hunt school there.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I think many many of people did. Uh, there are
other teams pretending to be go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So you have to go to school if you didn't
go hunt, and then everybody else that went hunting didn't
have to go to school.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, what if you got a permit you just didn't
go hunt. I think that there are probably kids that
did that. You did take a permit away from someone
else who wanted to hunt.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
We are you the only kid in school for two days?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I didn't play sports so we would have practice. But
there were kids, honestly that got the past that then
came back to practice because after hunting that day. True story. Wow.
But it also gets started around four o'clock, so you
can make it there for after school for practice. The
more you know it is Tuesday, you know what that means. Yes,
(05:38):
Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
To kid, this is Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon.
Mondays could be overwhelming. Tuesdays they're getting to whatever we
didn't get to on Monday. This is Tuesday Morning Quarterback
in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
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Speaker 6 (06:09):
Okay, Dan, you do so. This person just made it
into monsi's Top three MVP candidates. Jackson Smith and Jigbu
and I have a feeling that he's in the top
three of your your rankings because he just after week
eleven through eleven weeks of the Seahawks season, broke the
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Seahawks single season receiving record and own by DK Metcalf.
And that's kind of where I want to take this.
So Jsid is having an amazing year. He's fun to watch.
If you have him on your fantasy team, he's a treat.
But I do think there is a bigger picture thing
here and that it's the decisions made by John Schneider
over the years by the Seahawks. Follows a pattern and
(06:54):
here's how it goes. So they always said that Belichick,
at the height of his personnel years, would always release
a guy a year too soon as opposed to a
year too late. Right, you get the best value you
see it coming, and I think he did with DK
Metcalf on this one. I really do. I mean, Metcalf's
having his worst year. You could say that's the system
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of the Steelers or the quarterback, but Metcalf is having
a bad year, while in Smith and Jigba is having
an amazing year. John Schneider great choice. Another choice that
he made in recent years, he let his quarterback go
a year two early, and we are finding out right
now in Las Vegas how that's working out. With Gino
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Smith and Sam Darnold's having a pretty good year with
the Seahawks. Pete Carroll might be a one and done
with the Las Vegas Raiders. You could say that John
Schneider probably didn't have anything to do with that decision.
Maybe it was an ownership thing. Dan will be able
to fill in the bunks here, but again, a guy
that was probably left the Seahawks and it was a
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good decision.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I will piggyback off of that because I was gonna
talk about Pete Carroll's ten year in Las Vegas. But
to Jason's point, John Schneider didn't make the ultimate call.
Jody Allen did. And that ultimate call, though, was made
with John Schneider's staying put. Pete Carroll always had a
say over personnel decisions. It was the reason they brought
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him into Seattle. It was a coach and GM working together.
But Pete Carroll would say, hey, I want this guy,
and John Schneider would make it work. Now with Pete
Carroll out of the way John Schneider is is cooking
with gas here. Yeah, right. I mean their draft class
is very strong. They're drafting Gray's Abel, who has been
a great left guard for them, and we've always talked
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about how poorly the Seahawks offensive line is. You mentioned
the trades that they've been able to do. Jackson Smith
and Jigbo was a first round pick of theirs. They
drafted Devin Witherspoon, who was a pro bowler in that
same draft because of the Russell Wilson trade. So there's
a lot of things have turned to gold with John
Schneider making the call and with Pete Carroll and others
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being out of.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Russell Wilson another one I totally forgot about that. I
think that was a Pete Carroll decision, but I think
that you could put it on the list under Schneider decisions.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
They didn't want to pay Russell Wilson fifty million dollars.
They didn't want to. They probably could have held on
to him another year and then made the trade, but
they made the trade when they wanted to Gino Smith.
Gino Smith is making slightly more than Sam Donald. I
think it probably about five million dollars a year. I
think that was about the number. Don't quote me on that,
but the point is they said, we're not going to
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pay Gino Smith. We're not going to pay a forty
million dollars. We'll pay Sam Donald thirty three million. And
look at the season that's happening so far.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Now, all the right moves have been made.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I feel like that's what happens when you have less
cooks in the kitchen. Like now, he didn't have to
rely on somebody else's opinion. He just kind of went
with what he wanted to do and it's all worked out.
I mean, not too shabby. The Seahawks are looking really
good and they have a top ten defense.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
We've seen that. So this past week.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I was just impressed with what cam Ward was able
to do against the Seahawks. This is what you're wondering.
Can can your rookie quarterback figure this out? Is their growth?
Can you see something that you pinpoint and you're like,
cam Ward is figuring things out. It was the most
points that they've scored all season. He didn't throw an interception,
he didn't have any any turnovers, He threw a touchdown pass,
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he ran for a touchdown, and the Seahawks were favored
to win I think by thirteen.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Yeah, right, and so they kept it close to the
whole game. The entire game. It's not that you thought
the Titans.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Were gonna pull off the win, but you were just
surprised that the Titans were hanging in there.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
They never went away. They were hanging in there the
whole time. And I thought that was like a really.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Positive thing for Titans fans to see cam Ward actually
come out against a good defense and look like he
knew what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I also think because the start of the show we
talked about Bryce Young, I think the conversation's different than
it is for cam Ward because Bryce Young was taken
in a quarterback class where CJ. Stroud went right after him.
There are other quarterbacks in that class. If cam Ward
doesn't work out, there's something. Daniel Jeremiah, friend of The
Gottlieb Show, had cam Ward either like eighth or eleventh
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in the prospect rankings. Jackson Dart ends up being taken
in late, but there wasn't like a slew of quarterbacks
around him. So if cam Ward didn't work it wasn't
like you were passing on a generational.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Guy, right that you made the wrong pick.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, he just happened to be the best quarterback of
the group, and the team that picked number one needed
a quarterback, so there would be every reason to move
on from cam Ward. They don't have a running game,
they really don't have wide receivers. Kevin Ridley's now hurt.
There's a change with the coaching staff and to be
able to at least flourish, you know, reasonably. So I
(11:51):
think it's a good sign for.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
The time exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
To think that. I just as you guys were going
to talk about the price young thing. I looked at
the twenty three three quarterback class and you're right, CJ. Stroud,
and the jury's still out on that. So the Panthers
haven't didn't necessarily make the wrong move that year because
I looked at the other quarterbacks and to think that
Will Levis was a twenty twenty three back and he's
the backup for the four cam Ward and that tight
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that's just a strange one. And so Moncey's had a
lot to say today about first overall draft picks in
the NFL. I'm waiting for her to have a lot
to say about Caleb Williams before the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You've got forty seven minutes. Yea, Broncey, maybe Iowa. Sam's
gonna take it over. Sam, what you got from Tuesday
Morning Quarterback.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I really thought when the Ravens were what one in five,
that they could I just just couldn't be done, that
they could make the playoffs. And I was just so wrong.
They're six and five now, and uh, I just thought
too many things that go wrong for that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
For that to be possible. I think that there's a
reasonable thought.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
It's not they're not there yet.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
No, they're in the right division. They're in the right division.
They're on their way.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, that because the Ravens aren't as good as they
once were, that there would be a slip up at
some point, Like they were able to navigate the couple
of games when they didn't have Lamar Jackson now that
they do. Lamar is not at one hundred percent, by
the way, but they're in the thick of it. They
got the Bengals on Thursday, they have two games against
the Steelers. Effectively, if you win this weekend and you
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beat the Steelers twice, the division is yours. Like it's
it's it's there for Baltimore. I don't think they're going
to be the threat in the playoffs that we viewed
them the other year. But to be at one in
five and end up not only make, you know, making
the playoffs and winning the division, but maybe having a
winning record at that point crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I mean they have a They don't have an easy
schedule to end. Yeah, they have the Bengals twice, Joe
Burrows supposed to play Steelers twice.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
They also have to face the Patriots and the Packers.
It's not going to be an easy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Tist No, but if you win those, if you beat
the Steelers twice.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Then you're yeah, it's you're solid.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, but yeah, not guaranteed, but that would go a
long way. Y I what stood out to me from
Sunday Jason mentioned his name, and it's Pete Carroll and
the Raiders. We've had such a conversation about Aaron Glenn
and it's Aaron Glenn going to stick around. Aaron Glenn
is trying to instill a culture. But Aaron Glenn isn't
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seventy four years old. He's not. The Raiders have now
fired two of their three coordinators twelve weeks into the season.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
They're paying a lot of people to not work.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And they're paying them a lot of money, like they
gave Chim Kelly six million dollars highest paid offensive coordinator.
You mean to tell me that this is what Pete
Carroll is turning around in Las Vegas. They haven't gone anywhere.
Their entire offensive line is beat up, so you're not
going to get a lot of growth. But Gino Smith
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has not been what you would have hoped.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Not at all, especially what you saw last year with Seattle.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Right, yes, yeah, and in the year's part you would
you would have hoped he would have been an upgrade,
and he hasn't been. You're very likely going to have
to trade Max Crosby. You have to at least figure
out a way to turn things around because this team
is not a year away either. They're not a year
away from winning, So that means Pete Carroll's going to
be seventy six when maybe things start to turn around.
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Do you have that patience? No? I don't think you do,
And I know that the Raiders are making these quick judgments.
They have to though, right, yeah, well you'd handle the
keys to Dave Ziggler and Josh McDaniels and you were
willing to get rid of them after a year and
a half. Then you bring in Antonio Pierce. Then that
doesn't work out. So now you're going to bring in
a stabilizer. But the stabilizer is a coach that really
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wasn't wanted throughout the rest of the league. And Pee
Carroll even said yesterday in talking about the dismissal of
Chip Kelly, talking about how they thrive and they're going
to win games with defense and special teams. That's not
the NFL anymore. And I don't want to say you
can't ignore the offense because by firing chip Kelly you're
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paying attention to it. You have Ashton Genty, you have
Brock powers. But the problem is if nobody's healthy enough
to block and you can't get a good quarterback play,
how are those two star players going to be able
to do anything? And I just don't think that Pete
Carroll is the guy to turn it around. And it
may feel like it's a knee jerk reaction, but you
really just can't afford to wait. You could wait with
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Aaron Glenn, but I don't know why you would wait
with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I don't know why you would wait either. I think
when they brought on Pete Carroll they just thought it
was a safe signing.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yes, the stable, right, it's just safe.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
But they don't.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
They have not looked anywhere near like a competent team.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
This entire season.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
No, they beat the Patriots in Week one. That was
the stabilization, but it was.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Week one where people are figuring things out.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's the one result that we keep on bringing up of,
like how the heck did that happen?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
In twenty twe half.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I was also reading where not only as he fired
his two coordinators, but I guess he's got two sons
on his coaching staff. And the gist of the article
is you probably just for optics, want to fire your
kids too, because keeping the kids and firing them expensive coordinators, it.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Just looks ugly. Yeah, it's not good. Sixty seven percent
of your coordinator's gone, and I wouldn't even sorry, that's
a perfect ending Tuesday morning quarter Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
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Speaker 3 (17:49):
Dodger Stadium when we give tours and we take you know,
people through the Vin Scully press box. Vince Gully was
the voice of the Dodgers for sixty seven seasons. And
so now the kids, oh, kids love it, and we've
been doing group tours for schools.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
They can't. They giggle, they laugh, they do the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's like the funniest thing because when you talk about Vinscoli,
you say sixty seven seasons.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I love the games where kids are at the college
basketball games and they're just cheering for the free throw
to be to make it. Sixty seven.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
No good, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Hit her up at Monzi Bolano sixty seven. No, you
can drop the sixty seven. It's just at Monzi Blanias.
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Iowa Sam ninety nine. It's the fortieth anniversary of a
team of a song of a state of mind. How
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Let's do it. Okay, we'll figure rings being built around
southern California. We just can't do it tonight because tonight
I'll be sitting at home watching the HRD. Oh No,
don't remind my wife that it's Tuesday. It's the finale tonight,
right it is. I'll be watching the special that is
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premiered on HBO, the documentary called The Shuffle. It's gonna
be an HBO HBO Max. It is the fortieth anniversary
of the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears. And we know
about the eighty five Bears and their dominant run to
a Super Bowl title, going fifteen to one in the
regular season, only losing to the Miami Dolphins. But what
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we really know about that team is the Super Bowl Shuffle. Now,
Manzi is not old enough. She was not alive when
the Super Bowl Shuffle was produced. Honestly, Ioa Sam wasn't
even alive when the Super Bowl Shuffle came out. But
it was a big part of my childhood. It was
even the Bears were just a national phenomenon because of
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the personalities and just their dominance in the NFL. I
think it's when you're talking about like twenty seven Yankees
and you're talking about these iconic teams. I think the
eighty five Bears in the NFL would only be challenged
by the seventy two Dolphins. I think for popularity and
for the lasting image that they left. Jason Stewart, would
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you say that that's a fair assessment.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
I think the eighty five Bears probably even had more
traction because of the personalities and this song. And I
don't know if you were going to get to this
or not. I just kind of did a brief surface
level search on the song. It was made and released
in December of eighty five. They were doing a song
called the Super Bowl Shuffle in December with still games
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remaining on the schedule and a franchise that's never won
a Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Correct, the Shuffle.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Isn't there a dance the super Bowl Shuffle?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
No, a different one, the shuff.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Don't no, No, that's a dead end.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
There wasn't a ram.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
There was the Icky Shuffle that was done a few
years later with Ikey Woods of the Cincinnati Bank. But
the Super Bowl Shuffle was a song that, to Jason's point,
they recorded during the regular season where if they don't win, boy,
imagine it. Imagine the Eagles, yeah, releasing a song called
back to Back and they don't they don't win, like.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Sure, okay, yeah, real hockey, real early correct.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Okay, So the Chicago Bears released the Super Bowl Shuffle
it was a hit. He beloved it. I think I
had the forty five record and the video was popular.
It would play on MTV. It was it was, it
was music. It was a Yes. They had a music
video as well.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Stop so is this they hold on?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
They made a music video or out of this they
they put a thing together and made it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
They recorded the song, and then to go with the song,
they made.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
A video stop yes, stop.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And Manzi, you're gonna see the video after you play
our Super Bowl shuffle game. You're going to be tasked, okay,
with trying to complete the line, kind of like the
Shazam game you see on Fox. Isaac Longcrown is at
the judge's desk. If you get the answer correct, you'll
hear a. Okay, you get it wrong, you'll hear a.
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So we're gonna give you the first half of a
line from three different players. All right, we'll give you
the first half of the line. The Jason, Sam and
myself each have a line. Two of those are incorrect,
one of them is correct. To fill out the verse,
you're gonna have to decipher which is correct. First up,
Hall of Fame running back Walter Payton.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
Well, they call me sweetness, and I like the.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Dance to complete that is it? Give me the ball
so I can stomp on these ants.
Speaker 11 (23:44):
Okay, Sam, running the ball is like making romance. Jason,
let's head to the club in my parachute pants.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
No on, Jason's, I don't think that one. I'm gonna
go with yours.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Dan, give me the ball so I can stomp on
the ants. You like that, I do. Well, let's hear it.
Let's hear it. No, let's hear it. No, stop that,
let's hear it.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Sweetness, and I'm like the dance running the ball.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's like, now we need the X.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yes, okay, it was my line running the ball. It's
like making romance. I tried to really get the case.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
He really did. No, that was impressive. I just didn't.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Okay, all right, we're iron out the wrinkles here in romance.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Got it. But but I'm glad that you thought stomping
on the ants because Walter Payton are running back right. Yeah,
they call me sweetness and I like to dance. Give
me the ball so I can stomp on these ants.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Did you just make that up by yourself? Nice?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Nice? Nicely?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Pants is also later would you say, yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Come around yet?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
So, just just in case Mossie didn't know this, So
Walter Peyton's nickname was Sweetness, right and then and he
ran to content act like he he He was the
all time leading rushing yards leader that Emmett Smith broke
many years later. But he ran to contract contact. He
wasn't running away from it. So to say that running
the ball is like making romance makes a lot of sense.
(25:13):
He loved contact, he liked friction, He like.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Got it. Okay, makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The Bears had a quarterback that was a star in
his own right, Jim McMahon. Let's see how you know.
Jim McMahon's verse.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
I'm the.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
McMahon all right, is the following line, Sam.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
I'm better than Marina?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Just ask Dan, is it when I hit the turf
I got no plan?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Or is it I spent last night with Wynn and Diane.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Jim McMahon, Okay, party animal.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Okay, Okay, I am I'm gonna What was your.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Line, Dan?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
My line was, could you just play Jim mcmhon's first
part against Sam.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Yes, I'm the punky cube means McMahon.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
When I hit the turf, I got no plan. Would
you like to hear anybody else?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I want to hear a Jason's one more time.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Let's give a little Jim McMahon heads up to that Sam.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Agan last night with Lynn and Diane.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
All right, I like both of these.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Do you want to hear mini games?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I'm there's no way he doesn't have a prin Dan
the turf.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
I'm gonna go with Jason.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
All right, let's hear from Jim McMahon.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
I'm the punky cube meantys McMahon when I hit the.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Turf incorrect, oh for two?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Oh for two.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
By the way, Lynn and Diane I thought were the
perfect eighties names.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Yes, say where?
Speaker 6 (26:51):
So I saw this this lyric and I'm like, who
is who is the damn byer referring to? And I
thought Princess Diane and somebody else in the eighties that
was relevant, and I couldn't find one. It's either Loretta
Lynn or Lynn Redgrave red Grave. That's a big one.
It was actually just meant to be two groupie random
(27:13):
names that would have been twenty five named Diane and Lynn.
That's crazy, totally.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Isaac long Crown, I know you can't talk but is
any words on Manzi's over two performance so.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Far very enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
All right, well, let's see if you could go one
for three.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
At least try and go for three at this point.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You know, do you know William the refrigerator Perry? Yes, okay,
So Fridge was a phenomenon because of how big he
was a rookie on Clemson scores a touchdown in the
Super Bowl. He also had the finishing line in the
Super Bowl shovel. He had the last verse. All right,
let's hear from the fridge the rich. All right, Jason,
(27:53):
I may be large, but I'm no dumb cookie. You
could bet on the Bears. Just call your bookie.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
We like taball and do it all for the niokie.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
All right, Oh man, guys, this is difficult. This is
Can I hear him? And then you say you're lying? Sam?
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Sure thing, here we go.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
You're looking at the free is Iron the rich.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
We like to ball and do it all for the nookie.
Did Fred Durst steal this from the Super Bowl shuffle?
Is the question? What was your all right? Can I
have the fridge just one more time?
Speaker 10 (28:29):
You're looking at the free is Iron the richet.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You can bet on the Bears. Just call your bookie.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
I would like to go with Sam.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You think it's Sam. I would like to go with
eliminated Jason right away.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Yeah, some eliminating Jason.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, because why would you say you're a dumb cookie? Right?
Let's hear from the fridge.
Speaker 10 (28:44):
You're looking at the free is Iron the rich. I
may be loved, but I'm no dumb cooking for.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Oh struck out.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You're the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of this Super Bowl sho
like there's just nothing You're the opfer.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Yeah, thank you guys for putting this segment in the show.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
But Manci learned some things today. She did specifically three lines.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And during the break, you're gonna get to see the
video It's it and watch the HBO special tonight. It
truly is I.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Now, Yes, now, I will, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I am.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
We're going to create our own shuffle.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Other teams have tried. No, I don't think any sports
franchise or team has been able to match the greatness
of this song.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
What the Giants did the one in eighty six that
nobody remembers, and then the Rams did Ramme Itt in
eighty seven or something.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I even think that the Bengals
had one when they went to the Super Bowl with
the Icky Shuffle and the whole deal, but none of them,
none of it cut off to the level of the
Super Bowl Shuffle and forty year anniversary as the Chicago
Bears ended up winning Super Bowl twenty being the Patriots,
and that song then came to fluish.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Blago, So
I'm Dan Byer in for Doug today. Jason Stewart's the
show Executive producer. Isaai Glowing Crown has been at the
news desk and Iowa sam or technical producer.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
I know what shuffle. I was when you guys brought
this up and I was like, isn't it like a shuffle?
I was thinking of the Cupid shuffle.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
That's what I was thinking of when I was like,
isn't it like a dance or something?
Speaker 5 (30:35):
But yes, no, that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There was the Icky Shuffle, right, Monty was able to
actually see the Super Bowl Shuffle video during the break,
so good.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Also your Spotify shuffle, that's mean more contemporary. Okay, the
word shuffles still around totally.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I remember an iPod shuffle back in the then little
tiny one that was super fun. I'm upset that that's
not a thing teams are all doing.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
That was so fun, right, it was such a part.
I had the record and like they the Walter Payton Verse,
we played the first part of it, but the end
he's like, we're doing it to feed the needy. The
proceeds went to food banks, and yeah, amazing, amazing those
who were hungry in nineteen eighty five. But it was
also such a different time, and that's why I love
(31:21):
that you actually thought Jim McMahon being with two women
in one night was appropriate and they would be Lynn
and Diane.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I did. I thought at the time that was.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
She immediately ruled out a quarterback going on the field
with no plan, which I feel as half the quarterbacking
would get in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Today today, But I didn't think back then, maybe not.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Times were different then like they are now. And you
know who's telling us that Lane Kiffin, the old miss
Head football coach questioned yesterday about the drama that's going
on surrounding his status as the old miss Head coach.
Is he gonna leave? Is he gonna go? Will he
go to LSU? Is he going to Florida? Could he
(32:04):
go to the NFL. We're going to find out, we think,
officially on Saturday, maybe before then, but the schools saying
they were going to make an announcement on Saturday on
what the status of Lane Kiffin was. Well. Lane Kiffin
was asked yesterday about all the drama that's going on
in this situation. Here's what he had to tell reporters
in attendance.
Speaker 12 (32:23):
It's a different generation, guys. I know, it's different than
what we were in when players couldn't leave and players
chose to go play for their home state a lot
and all that. This is a different generation. They all
can leave every year. A lot of that is financially based,
and so they don't think the traditional way that years
ago about their coach and what's going to go on
(32:44):
with him next year. That that's it's not how they
think anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I think it's a magnificent game of misdirection. I just
don't buy it.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Oh no, he's one hundred percent deflecting.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Absolutely trying to explain why he's going to leave All
Miss because I think he's leaving. I think he's he's
whether he's going to the NFL, I don't think so,
but I think he's leaving, and so he's deflecting. So
when he does leave, you kind of feel you feel
for him. You're like, you're right, Like the kids aren't
the same. There's no it's not like you're building these
relationships where you can build a relationship with the player
(33:18):
for two, three, four years. Everyone's moving on. I get
it all that, I get all that, but I do
think he's deflecting. I also agree with what he's saying,
like even though he's deflecting, I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think that there are some kids who will leave,
and there are kids that have left Ole Miss before.
But I don't think you can talk about all eighty
eighty five kids on the roster that are feeling the same.
Not every kid is able to hop in the transfer
portal and go and get hundreds of thousands of dollars
more than they are at that point. There are there
are some top level players that we'll be able to
(33:50):
He's lost top level players previously. But I don't think
that the kid that is within the program. And guess what,
this may be the harsh part, but maybe that kid
doesn't matter. It sounds very harsh, But I just don't
think that everybody feels that way, that, oh great, our
coach is not here, are not gonna be here anymore.
(34:12):
Sure some may be able to leave, but I don't
think all of them.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, the important ones, And that's mean to say, Like
you just said, it's like we don't want But he's
talking about the important ones, the ones that you can
build a program within, and of course you need the
guys that are beyond that.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
But I agree with him.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I just think that with the way it is now, Dan, like,
think about it. When when I was a kid, it
was like I thought I knew everything.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
And I knew nothing.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Had I had access to information the way kids do now.
They think they know more than you, And so I
feel like the kids are thinking they know better than
their situation. And the ones that are on the fringe
of like possibly making money or like staying to school,
they're gonna leave to go and make some money.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
But back then that wasn't a thing.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I see. I think kids have always thought that they
knew more than they did. Now because they have access
to the information, I actually think it's more dangerous because
even though they know more, I think they know less
because they think they know more.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I agree with that that it is more dangerous because
now you have access to all this information. So whatever
you want to believe, you can feed yourself that you're
right right, Like it's like, no, what are you talking about?
I believe this, and I can prove to you that
I'm right. And that's the mentality I think with everybody,
even adults, but with kids now, they definitely think they
(35:26):
know way more than the adults.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I thought that back then, and I didn't know anything.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Jason Stewart, I think that two things can be true
in this specific situation. I think that Lane Kiffen can
be using this as justification to leave and convinced himself
of that. And I also think that kids indeed are
making their own decisions and they don't care. I think
that both things are true. I think that that there
(35:51):
are going to be much fewer what would you say,
heart's broken with Lane Kiffen leading that team than it
was twenty years ago or ten years ago. I just
don't think the investment in the head coach and player
is there as much.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I think that the times have changed. I think that
the situation has changed. I just don't think kids have changed.
I think that the surroundings and everything around it is different.
But I just don't I don't think that. I think
that there are certain generations that look at things. I've
said when I was growing up, to go somewhere and
(36:26):
work twenty thirty forty years was a badge of honor.
And I think that there's a generation now that said,
why would you do that? I want to just stay
at one place. I think that that thinking is different.
But to think that kids are different and not going
to be affected by him leaving, I just I don't
agree with that. Not every kids could, by the way,
but gonna be able to follow him to LSU. Maybe
a couple, maybe three or four maybe, but he may
(36:48):
want to go and take a kid from Texas, nexas
A and m Alabama, Michigan, you know, all these other places.
They come to LSU if that's where he ultimately goes.
And so I don't think everybody's happy. Our colleague gar
tore has quote tweeted that sound bite and said, I
know for a fact that on all players are happy
about this situation. Of course, not.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Because you're having success with this coach. Of course you
don't want to see him go. And it just sucks
because I think I am with Jason, and I feel
like the big thing is like relationships in sports and
college are not the same that they were even just
five years ago. You're building relationships and you're trying to
build a foundation. I don't know if you can do
(37:28):
that anymore. There is no foundation.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
You don't have time.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
You're right, yeah, there's and it's ever changing every year
in college sports. It's different and different. But I think
that I don't want to call it a convenient excuse,
but it feels like that for Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Like both can be true, like Jason said, and.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
We'll find out on Saturday. After the Egg Now teg
with Dancing with the Stars, watch the Super Bowl Shuffle
doc tonight. She's Monty, I'm Dan thanks to Jason, Isaac
and Sam the Gottlib Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (37:55):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
A happy Tuesday to you. Yeah, many taking the day
off getting ready for Thanksgiving week.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You know, I enjoying Taco Tuesday. Tequila Tuesday my preference
back home.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You know what it is, it's gun deer season. You
have a week where you can shoot deer with a
rifle with a gun, and so it starts started last
Saturday and goes through next Sunday. It's Thanksgiving week. You
could get a pass if you wanted to miss school
on Monday and Tuesday, you could get a special pass
to say you were hunting and you would be excused
(00:50):
from school yesterday or today. I think that's still the
case so much. They're gonna die an a lot of
them are. The deer are gonna die anyway, so don't
think of it is a bad thing. They're not gonna
make it through the winter. They're gonna be all over
the place, it's it's actually a good thing. But for
about yes, about nine days, nine days you have an
(01:11):
opportunity to use a gun to shoot the deer that
are running around the fields in the great state of
Whats going is this? Oh? Yeah, this is an annual
like this is a high point. Like families have their cabins,
they'll stay there for the week at least opening weekend,
which was this past weekend. Rights of passage for many
a youth being able to go on a hunting trip.
(01:32):
This is why people have land. That's why they purchase
land to go hunting. Io, Sam, you know what I'm
talking about, right, Yeah, to.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
A lesser degree, like I guess because you guys have
more timber up there, so you know, but we have
plenty of deer in Iowa. Do people look at it
as an opportunity to swap out the turkey for venison?
Is like maybe we'll eat venison for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
No, No, not at all, because a lot of what people
do is they'll they'll make venison, they'll make venison jerky,
they'll make venison steaks, They'll do a lot of stuff
with the meat. Some donate at the food banks as well.
It's the whole deal. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Absolutely, there's a lot of deer in Iowa. They almost
like need to be thinned out exactly. I know that
sounds crazy, but it's like they're eating all your hostage.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It really sounds. It sounds I think for where Moncey
grew up and where she's from in the city of
Los Angeles. Sounds very foreign, but it's not when you're
experiencing those sort of things.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Yeah, I really don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
They're cute.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
They're cute, but they will eat all your plants and
they just proliferate.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah. It's also it's going to be winter, like they're Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That's that's so you're putting them out of their misery
ahead of time.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, and you're you can use the meat for other
This is is this. I almost feel like like we
don't really talk politics here, but almost like this is
like as close as you can get to the line
because I feel like Manzi's looking at like on the
other side of things.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Ah, yeah, I just that's just yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
I'm not a hunter myself, but I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I get it. Jason Stewart, you're a Southern California native,
lived your life here, do you find anything odd about
the conversation that we're talking about.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Not odd. I'm not a hunter, I'm not a gun owner.
I don't. I don't really relate to that at all,
having grown up where Monster grew up. And then I
also I was a big, big fan of the Smiths
and my one of my favorite albums by the Smiths
is Meat is Murder. Stephen Morrisey is the lead singer
of the Smiths. He's very vegetarian, like Monsey is. So
(03:31):
I understand both sides. That's very boring, but I'm not
into it, and I understand the side that thinks it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I think that it's I think that it's just tough
to understand if.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You aren't if you aren't there, absolutely absolutely, it's hard
for me to grasp it.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
But you know, you know, okay, okay, I didn't know
this was a thing.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
But you could get out of school, like you could
get that's the great part about it, like and then go.
They had a special pass that you would be excused
on Monday and Tuesday. Yes, that's the week that we
are in. I feel that this show has taken an
interesting turn.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Let's take your calls.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Yeah, this is brand new information.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But I guess okay, all right, you know that's that's
what happens in places now.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Isaac is trolling us with Bambi gifts.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, you're not. You're not shooting fonds.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
You guys, you're not.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Yeah, And if you remember Bamby, it wasn't Bamby who gets.
Speaker 8 (04:25):
You know, you guys are missing the even more important
issue here. If people in Wisconsin get Monday and Tuesday
off for school, people in California should get Monday and
Tuesday off for school.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
That's the bigger thing here. That's my bigger gripe.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's like the it's like the smoke breaks, you guys
are saying, like, there's if you don't smoke, you don't
get the break. I didn't hunt, so I wasn't off
Monday and Tuesday. I went to school.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I would have pretended to hunt school there.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I think many many of people did. Uh, there are
other teams pretending to be go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So you have to go to school if you didn't
go hunt, and then everybody else that went hunting didn't
have to go to school.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, what if you got a permit you just didn't
go hunt. I think that there are probably kids that
did that. You did take a permit away from someone
else who wanted to hunt.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
We are you the only kid in school for two days?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I didn't play sports so we would have practice. But
there were kids, honestly that got the past that then
came back to practice because after hunting that day. True story. Wow.
But it also gets started around four o'clock, so you
can make it there for after school for practice. The
more you know it is Tuesday, you know what that means. Yes,
(05:38):
Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
To kid, this is Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon.
Mondays could be overwhelming. Tuesdays they're getting to whatever we
didn't get to on Monday. This is Tuesday Morning Quarterback
in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
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Speaker 6 (06:09):
Okay, Dan, you do so. This person just made it
into monsi's Top three MVP candidates. Jackson Smith and Jigbu
and I have a feeling that he's in the top
three of your your rankings because he just after week
eleven through eleven weeks of the Seahawks season, broke the
(06:31):
Seahawks single season receiving record and own by DK Metcalf.
And that's kind of where I want to take this.
So Jsid is having an amazing year. He's fun to watch.
If you have him on your fantasy team, he's a treat.
But I do think there is a bigger picture thing
here and that it's the decisions made by John Schneider
over the years by the Seahawks. Follows a pattern and
(06:54):
here's how it goes. So they always said that Belichick,
at the height of his personnel years, would always release
a guy a year too soon as opposed to a
year too late. Right, you get the best value you
see it coming, and I think he did with DK
Metcalf on this one. I really do. I mean, Metcalf's
having his worst year. You could say that's the system
(07:15):
of the Steelers or the quarterback, but Metcalf is having
a bad year, while in Smith and Jigba is having
an amazing year. John Schneider great choice. Another choice that
he made in recent years, he let his quarterback go
a year two early, and we are finding out right
now in Las Vegas how that's working out. With Gino
(07:39):
Smith and Sam Darnold's having a pretty good year with
the Seahawks. Pete Carroll might be a one and done
with the Las Vegas Raiders. You could say that John
Schneider probably didn't have anything to do with that decision.
Maybe it was an ownership thing. Dan will be able
to fill in the bunks here, but again, a guy
that was probably left the Seahawks and it was a
(08:01):
good decision.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I will piggyback off of that because I was gonna
talk about Pete Carroll's ten year in Las Vegas. But
to Jason's point, John Schneider didn't make the ultimate call.
Jody Allen did. And that ultimate call, though, was made
with John Schneider's staying put. Pete Carroll always had a
say over personnel decisions. It was the reason they brought
(08:24):
him into Seattle. It was a coach and GM working together.
But Pete Carroll would say, hey, I want this guy,
and John Schneider would make it work. Now with Pete
Carroll out of the way John Schneider is is cooking
with gas here. Yeah, right. I mean their draft class
is very strong. They're drafting Gray's Abel, who has been
a great left guard for them, and we've always talked
(08:45):
about how poorly the Seahawks offensive line is. You mentioned
the trades that they've been able to do. Jackson Smith
and Jigbo was a first round pick of theirs. They
drafted Devin Witherspoon, who was a pro bowler in that
same draft because of the Russell Wilson trade. So there's
a lot of things have turned to gold with John
Schneider making the call and with Pete Carroll and others
(09:08):
being out of.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Russell Wilson another one I totally forgot about that. I
think that was a Pete Carroll decision, but I think
that you could put it on the list under Schneider decisions.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
They didn't want to pay Russell Wilson fifty million dollars.
They didn't want to. They probably could have held on
to him another year and then made the trade, but
they made the trade when they wanted to Gino Smith.
Gino Smith is making slightly more than Sam Donald. I
think it probably about five million dollars a year. I
think that was about the number. Don't quote me on that,
but the point is they said, we're not going to
(09:36):
pay Gino Smith. We're not going to pay a forty
million dollars. We'll pay Sam Donald thirty three million. And
look at the season that's happening so far.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Now, all the right moves have been made.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I feel like that's what happens when you have less
cooks in the kitchen. Like now, he didn't have to
rely on somebody else's opinion. He just kind of went
with what he wanted to do and it's all worked out.
I mean, not too shabby. The Seahawks are looking really
good and they have a top ten defense.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
We've seen that. So this past week.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I was just impressed with what cam Ward was able
to do against the Seahawks. This is what you're wondering.
Can can your rookie quarterback figure this out? Is their growth?
Can you see something that you pinpoint and you're like,
cam Ward is figuring things out. It was the most
points that they've scored all season. He didn't throw an interception,
he didn't have any any turnovers, He threw a touchdown pass,
(10:25):
he ran for a touchdown, and the Seahawks were favored
to win I think by thirteen.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Yeah, right, and so they kept it close to the
whole game. The entire game. It's not that you thought
the Titans.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Were gonna pull off the win, but you were just
surprised that the Titans were hanging in there.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
They never went away. They were hanging in there the
whole time. And I thought that was like a really.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Positive thing for Titans fans to see cam Ward actually
come out against a good defense and look like he
knew what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I also think because the start of the show we
talked about Bryce Young, I think the conversation's different than
it is for cam Ward because Bryce Young was taken
in a quarterback class where CJ. Stroud went right after him.
There are other quarterbacks in that class. If cam Ward
doesn't work out, there's something. Daniel Jeremiah, friend of The
Gottlieb Show, had cam Ward either like eighth or eleventh
(11:19):
in the prospect rankings. Jackson Dart ends up being taken
in late, but there wasn't like a slew of quarterbacks
around him. So if cam Ward didn't work it wasn't
like you were passing on a generational.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Guy, right that you made the wrong pick.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, he just happened to be the best quarterback of
the group, and the team that picked number one needed
a quarterback, so there would be every reason to move
on from cam Ward. They don't have a running game,
they really don't have wide receivers. Kevin Ridley's now hurt.
There's a change with the coaching staff and to be
able to at least flourish, you know, reasonably. So I
(11:51):
think it's a good sign for.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
The time exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
To think that. I just as you guys were going
to talk about the price young thing. I looked at
the twenty three three quarterback class and you're right, CJ. Stroud,
and the jury's still out on that. So the Panthers
haven't didn't necessarily make the wrong move that year because
I looked at the other quarterbacks and to think that
Will Levis was a twenty twenty three back and he's
the backup for the four cam Ward and that tight
(12:17):
that's just a strange one. And so Moncey's had a
lot to say today about first overall draft picks in
the NFL. I'm waiting for her to have a lot
to say about Caleb Williams before the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You've got forty seven minutes. Yea, Broncey, maybe Iowa. Sam's
gonna take it over. Sam, what you got from Tuesday
Morning Quarterback.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I really thought when the Ravens were what one in five,
that they could I just just couldn't be done, that
they could make the playoffs. And I was just so wrong.
They're six and five now, and uh, I just thought
too many things that go wrong for that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
For that to be possible. I think that there's a
reasonable thought.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
It's not they're not there yet.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
No, they're in the right division. They're in the right division.
They're on their way.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, that because the Ravens aren't as good as they
once were, that there would be a slip up at
some point, Like they were able to navigate the couple
of games when they didn't have Lamar Jackson now that
they do. Lamar is not at one hundred percent, by
the way, but they're in the thick of it. They
got the Bengals on Thursday, they have two games against
the Steelers. Effectively, if you win this weekend and you
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beat the Steelers twice, the division is yours. Like it's
it's it's there for Baltimore. I don't think they're going
to be the threat in the playoffs that we viewed
them the other year. But to be at one in
five and end up not only make, you know, making
the playoffs and winning the division, but maybe having a
winning record at that point crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I mean they have a They don't have an easy
schedule to end. Yeah, they have the Bengals twice, Joe
Burrows supposed to play Steelers twice.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
They also have to face the Patriots and the Packers.
It's not going to be an easy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Tist No, but if you win those, if you beat
the Steelers twice.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Then you're yeah, it's you're solid.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, but yeah, not guaranteed, but that would go a
long way. Y I what stood out to me from
Sunday Jason mentioned his name, and it's Pete Carroll and
the Raiders. We've had such a conversation about Aaron Glenn
and it's Aaron Glenn going to stick around. Aaron Glenn
is trying to instill a culture. But Aaron Glenn isn't
(14:20):
seventy four years old. He's not. The Raiders have now
fired two of their three coordinators twelve weeks into the season.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
They're paying a lot of people to not work.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And they're paying them a lot of money, like they
gave Chim Kelly six million dollars highest paid offensive coordinator.
You mean to tell me that this is what Pete
Carroll is turning around in Las Vegas. They haven't gone anywhere.
Their entire offensive line is beat up, so you're not
going to get a lot of growth. But Gino Smith
(14:51):
has not been what you would have hoped.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Not at all, especially what you saw last year with Seattle.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Right, yes, yeah, and in the year's part you would
you would have hoped he would have been an upgrade,
and he hasn't been. You're very likely going to have
to trade Max Crosby. You have to at least figure
out a way to turn things around because this team
is not a year away either. They're not a year
away from winning, So that means Pete Carroll's going to
be seventy six when maybe things start to turn around.
(15:20):
Do you have that patience? No? I don't think you do,
And I know that the Raiders are making these quick judgments.
They have to though, right, yeah, well you'd handle the
keys to Dave Ziggler and Josh McDaniels and you were
willing to get rid of them after a year and
a half. Then you bring in Antonio Pierce. Then that
doesn't work out. So now you're going to bring in
a stabilizer. But the stabilizer is a coach that really
(15:44):
wasn't wanted throughout the rest of the league. And Pee
Carroll even said yesterday in talking about the dismissal of
Chip Kelly, talking about how they thrive and they're going
to win games with defense and special teams. That's not
the NFL anymore. And I don't want to say you
can't ignore the offense because by firing chip Kelly you're
(16:05):
paying attention to it. You have Ashton Genty, you have
Brock powers. But the problem is if nobody's healthy enough
to block and you can't get a good quarterback play,
how are those two star players going to be able
to do anything? And I just don't think that Pete
Carroll is the guy to turn it around. And it
may feel like it's a knee jerk reaction, but you
really just can't afford to wait. You could wait with
(16:25):
Aaron Glenn, but I don't know why you would wait
with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I don't know why you would wait either. I think
when they brought on Pete Carroll they just thought it
was a safe signing.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yes, the stable, right, it's just safe.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
But they don't.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
They have not looked anywhere near like a competent team.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
This entire season.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
No, they beat the Patriots in Week one. That was
the stabilization, but it was.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Week one where people are figuring things out.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's the one result that we keep on bringing up of,
like how the heck did that happen?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
In twenty twe half.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I was also reading where not only as he fired
his two coordinators, but I guess he's got two sons
on his coaching staff. And the gist of the article
is you probably just for optics, want to fire your
kids too, because keeping the kids and firing them expensive coordinators, it.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Just looks ugly. Yeah, it's not good. Sixty seven percent
of your coordinator's gone, and I wouldn't even sorry, that's
a perfect ending Tuesday morning quarter Tuesday.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
Here you have it, your Tuesday morning quarterback. In the
afternoon on the Doun DoD Ling.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
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Speaker 3 (17:49):
Dodger Stadium when we give tours and we take you know,
people through the Vin Scully press box. Vince Gully was
the voice of the Dodgers for sixty seven seasons. And
so now the kids, oh, kids love it, and we've
been doing group tours for schools.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
They can't. They giggle, they laugh, they do the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's like the funniest thing because when you talk about Vinscoli,
you say sixty seven seasons.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I love the games where kids are at the college
basketball games and they're just cheering for the free throw
to be to make it. Sixty seven.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
No good, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Hit her up at Monzi Bolano sixty seven. No, you
can drop the sixty seven. It's just at Monzi Blanias.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Isaac
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Speaker 2 (19:44):
Let's do it. Okay, we'll figure rings being built around
southern California. We just can't do it tonight because tonight
I'll be sitting at home watching the HRD. Oh No,
don't remind my wife that it's Tuesday. It's the finale tonight,
right it is. I'll be watching the special that is
(20:04):
premiered on HBO, the documentary called The Shuffle. It's gonna
be an HBO HBO Max. It is the fortieth anniversary
of the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears. And we know
about the eighty five Bears and their dominant run to
a Super Bowl title, going fifteen to one in the
regular season, only losing to the Miami Dolphins. But what
(20:26):
we really know about that team is the Super Bowl Shuffle. Now,
Manzi is not old enough. She was not alive when
the Super Bowl Shuffle was produced. Honestly, Ioa Sam wasn't
even alive when the Super Bowl Shuffle came out. But
it was a big part of my childhood. It was
even the Bears were just a national phenomenon because of
(20:51):
the personalities and just their dominance in the NFL. I
think it's when you're talking about like twenty seven Yankees
and you're talking about these iconic teams. I think the
eighty five Bears in the NFL would only be challenged
by the seventy two Dolphins. I think for popularity and
for the lasting image that they left. Jason Stewart, would
(21:14):
you say that that's a fair assessment.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
I think the eighty five Bears probably even had more
traction because of the personalities and this song. And I
don't know if you were going to get to this
or not. I just kind of did a brief surface
level search on the song. It was made and released
in December of eighty five. They were doing a song
called the Super Bowl Shuffle in December with still games
(21:40):
remaining on the schedule and a franchise that's never won
a Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Correct, the Shuffle.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Isn't there a dance the super Bowl Shuffle?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
No, a different one, the shuff.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Don't no, No, that's a dead end.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
There wasn't a ram.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
There was the Icky Shuffle that was done a few
years later with Ikey Woods of the Cincinnati Bank. But
the Super Bowl Shuffle was a song that, to Jason's point,
they recorded during the regular season where if they don't win, boy,
imagine it. Imagine the Eagles, yeah, releasing a song called
back to Back and they don't they don't win, like.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Sure, okay, yeah, real hockey, real early correct.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Okay, So the Chicago Bears released the Super Bowl Shuffle
it was a hit. He beloved it. I think I
had the forty five record and the video was popular.
It would play on MTV. It was it was, it
was music. It was a Yes. They had a music
video as well.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Stop so is this they hold on?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
They made a music video or out of this they
they put a thing together and made it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
They recorded the song, and then to go with the song,
they made.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
A video stop yes, stop.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And Manzi, you're gonna see the video after you play
our Super Bowl shuffle game. You're going to be tasked, okay,
with trying to complete the line, kind of like the
Shazam game you see on Fox. Isaac Longcrown is at
the judge's desk. If you get the answer correct, you'll
hear a. Okay, you get it wrong, you'll hear a.
(23:12):
So we're gonna give you the first half of a
line from three different players. All right, we'll give you
the first half of the line. The Jason, Sam and
myself each have a line. Two of those are incorrect,
one of them is correct. To fill out the verse,
you're gonna have to decipher which is correct. First up,
Hall of Fame running back Walter Payton.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
Well, they call me sweetness, and I like the.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Dance to complete that is it? Give me the ball
so I can stomp on these ants.
Speaker 11 (23:44):
Okay, Sam, running the ball is like making romance. Jason,
let's head to the club in my parachute pants.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
No on, Jason's, I don't think that one. I'm gonna
go with yours.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Dan, give me the ball so I can stomp on
the ants. You like that, I do. Well, let's hear it.
Let's hear it. No, let's hear it. No, stop that,
let's hear it.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Sweetness, and I'm like the dance running the ball.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's like, now we need the X.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yes, okay, it was my line running the ball. It's
like making romance. I tried to really get the case.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
He really did. No, that was impressive. I just didn't.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Okay, all right, we're iron out the wrinkles here in romance.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Got it. But but I'm glad that you thought stomping
on the ants because Walter Payton are running back right. Yeah,
they call me sweetness and I like to dance. Give
me the ball so I can stomp on these ants.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Did you just make that up by yourself? Nice?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Nice? Nicely?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Pants is also later would you say, yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Come around yet?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
So, just just in case Mossie didn't know this, So
Walter Peyton's nickname was Sweetness, right and then and he
ran to content act like he he He was the
all time leading rushing yards leader that Emmett Smith broke
many years later. But he ran to contract contact. He
wasn't running away from it. So to say that running
the ball is like making romance makes a lot of sense.
(25:13):
He loved contact, he liked friction, He like.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Got it. Okay, makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The Bears had a quarterback that was a star in
his own right, Jim McMahon. Let's see how you know.
Jim McMahon's verse.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
I'm the.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
McMahon all right, is the following line, Sam.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
I'm better than Marina?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Just ask Dan, is it when I hit the turf
I got no plan?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Or is it I spent last night with Wynn and Diane.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Jim McMahon, Okay, party animal.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Okay, Okay, I am I'm gonna What was your.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Line, Dan?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
My line was, could you just play Jim mcmhon's first
part against Sam.
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Yes, I'm the punky cube means McMahon.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
When I hit the turf, I got no plan. Would
you like to hear anybody else?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I want to hear a Jason's one more time.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Let's give a little Jim McMahon heads up to that Sam.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Agan last night with Lynn and Diane.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
All right, I like both of these.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Do you want to hear mini games?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I'm there's no way he doesn't have a prin Dan
the turf.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
I'm gonna go with Jason.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
All right, let's hear from Jim McMahon.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
I'm the punky cube meantys McMahon when I hit the.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Turf incorrect, oh for two?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
Oh for two.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
By the way, Lynn and Diane I thought were the
perfect eighties names.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Yes, say where?
Speaker 6 (26:51):
So I saw this this lyric and I'm like, who
is who is the damn byer referring to? And I
thought Princess Diane and somebody else in the eighties that
was relevant, and I couldn't find one. It's either Loretta
Lynn or Lynn Redgrave red Grave. That's a big one.
It was actually just meant to be two groupie random
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names that would have been twenty five named Diane and Lynn.
That's crazy, totally.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Isaac long Crown, I know you can't talk but is
any words on Manzi's over two performance so.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Far very enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
All right, well, let's see if you could go one
for three.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
At least try and go for three at this point.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You know, do you know William the refrigerator Perry? Yes, okay,
So Fridge was a phenomenon because of how big he
was a rookie on Clemson scores a touchdown in the
Super Bowl. He also had the finishing line in the
Super Bowl shovel. He had the last verse. All right,
let's hear from the fridge the rich. All right, Jason,
(27:53):
I may be large, but I'm no dumb cookie. You
could bet on the Bears. Just call your bookie.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
We like taball and do it all for the niokie.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
All right, Oh man, guys, this is difficult. This is
Can I hear him? And then you say you're lying? Sam?
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Sure thing, here we go.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
You're looking at the free is Iron the rich.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
We like to ball and do it all for the nookie.
Did Fred Durst steal this from the Super Bowl shuffle?
Is the question? What was your all right? Can I
have the fridge just one more time?
Speaker 10 (28:29):
You're looking at the free is Iron the richet.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You can bet on the Bears. Just call your bookie.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
I would like to go with Sam.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You think it's Sam. I would like to go with
eliminated Jason right away.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Yeah, some eliminating Jason.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, because why would you say you're a dumb cookie? Right?
Let's hear from the fridge.
Speaker 10 (28:44):
You're looking at the free is Iron the rich. I
may be loved, but I'm no dumb cooking for.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Oh struck out.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You're the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of this Super Bowl sho
like there's just nothing You're the opfer.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Yeah, thank you guys for putting this segment in the show.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
But Manci learned some things today. She did specifically three lines.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And during the break, you're gonna get to see the
video It's it and watch the HBO special tonight. It
truly is I.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Now, Yes, now, I will, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I am.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
We're going to create our own shuffle.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Other teams have tried. No, I don't think any sports
franchise or team has been able to match the greatness
of this song.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
What the Giants did the one in eighty six that
nobody remembers, and then the Rams did Ramme Itt in
eighty seven or something.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I even think that the Bengals
had one when they went to the Super Bowl with
the Icky Shuffle and the whole deal, but none of them,
none of it cut off to the level of the
Super Bowl Shuffle and forty year anniversary as the Chicago
Bears ended up winning Super Bowl twenty being the Patriots,
and that song then came to fluish.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Blago, So
I'm Dan Byer in for Doug today. Jason Stewart's the
show Executive producer. Isaai Glowing Crown has been at the
news desk and Iowa sam or technical producer.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
I know what shuffle. I was when you guys brought
this up and I was like, isn't it like a shuffle?
I was thinking of the Cupid shuffle.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
That's what I was thinking of when I was like,
isn't it like a dance or something?
Speaker 5 (30:35):
But yes, no, that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There was the Icky Shuffle, right, Monty was able to
actually see the Super Bowl Shuffle video during the break,
so good.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Also your Spotify shuffle, that's mean more contemporary. Okay, the
word shuffles still around totally.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I remember an iPod shuffle back in the then little
tiny one that was super fun. I'm upset that that's
not a thing teams are all doing.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
That was so fun, right, it was such a part.
I had the record and like they the Walter Payton Verse,
we played the first part of it, but the end
he's like, we're doing it to feed the needy. The
proceeds went to food banks, and yeah, amazing, amazing those
who were hungry in nineteen eighty five. But it was
also such a different time, and that's why I love
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that you actually thought Jim McMahon being with two women
in one night was appropriate and they would be Lynn
and Diane.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I did. I thought at the time that was.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
She immediately ruled out a quarterback going on the field
with no plan, which I feel as half the quarterbacking
would get in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Today today, But I didn't think back then, maybe not.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Times were different then like they are now. And you
know who's telling us that Lane Kiffin, the old miss
Head football coach questioned yesterday about the drama that's going
on surrounding his status as the old miss Head coach.
Is he gonna leave? Is he gonna go? Will he
go to LSU? Is he going to Florida? Could he
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go to the NFL. We're going to find out, we think,
officially on Saturday, maybe before then, but the schools saying
they were going to make an announcement on Saturday on
what the status of Lane Kiffin was. Well. Lane Kiffin
was asked yesterday about all the drama that's going on
in this situation. Here's what he had to tell reporters
in attendance.
Speaker 12 (32:23):
It's a different generation, guys. I know, it's different than
what we were in when players couldn't leave and players
chose to go play for their home state a lot
and all that. This is a different generation. They all
can leave every year. A lot of that is financially based,
and so they don't think the traditional way that years
ago about their coach and what's going to go on
(32:44):
with him next year. That that's it's not how they
think anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I think it's a magnificent game of misdirection. I just
don't buy it.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Oh no, he's one hundred percent deflecting.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Absolutely trying to explain why he's going to leave All
Miss because I think he's leaving. I think he's he's
whether he's going to the NFL, I don't think so,
but I think he's leaving, and so he's deflecting. So
when he does leave, you kind of feel you feel
for him. You're like, you're right, Like the kids aren't
the same. There's no it's not like you're building these
relationships where you can build a relationship with the player
(33:18):
for two, three, four years. Everyone's moving on. I get
it all that, I get all that, but I do
think he's deflecting. I also agree with what he's saying,
like even though he's deflecting, I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think that there are some kids who will leave,
and there are kids that have left Ole Miss before.
But I don't think you can talk about all eighty
eighty five kids on the roster that are feeling the same.
Not every kid is able to hop in the transfer
portal and go and get hundreds of thousands of dollars
more than they are at that point. There are there
are some top level players that we'll be able to
(33:50):
He's lost top level players previously. But I don't think
that the kid that is within the program. And guess what,
this may be the harsh part, but maybe that kid
doesn't matter. It sounds very harsh, But I just don't
think that everybody feels that way, that, oh great, our
coach is not here, are not gonna be here anymore.
(34:12):
Sure some may be able to leave, but I don't
think all of them.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, the important ones, And that's mean to say, Like
you just said, it's like we don't want But he's
talking about the important ones, the ones that you can
build a program within, and of course you need the
guys that are beyond that.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
But I agree with him.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I just think that with the way it is now, Dan, like,
think about it. When when I was a kid, it
was like I thought I knew everything.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
And I knew nothing.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Had I had access to information the way kids do now.
They think they know more than you, And so I
feel like the kids are thinking they know better than
their situation. And the ones that are on the fringe
of like possibly making money or like staying to school,
they're gonna leave to go and make some money.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
But back then that wasn't a thing.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I see. I think kids have always thought that they
knew more than they did. Now because they have access
to the information, I actually think it's more dangerous because
even though they know more, I think they know less
because they think they know more.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I agree with that that it is more dangerous because
now you have access to all this information. So whatever
you want to believe, you can feed yourself that you're
right right, Like it's like, no, what are you talking about?
I believe this, and I can prove to you that
I'm right. And that's the mentality I think with everybody,
even adults, but with kids now, they definitely think they
(35:26):
know way more than the adults.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I thought that back then, and I didn't know anything.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Jason Stewart, I think that two things can be true
in this specific situation. I think that Lane Kiffen can
be using this as justification to leave and convinced himself
of that. And I also think that kids indeed are
making their own decisions and they don't care. I think
that both things are true. I think that that there
(35:51):
are going to be much fewer what would you say,
heart's broken with Lane Kiffen leading that team than it
was twenty years ago or ten years ago. I just
don't think the investment in the head coach and player
is there as much.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I think that the times have changed. I think that
the situation has changed. I just don't think kids have changed.
I think that the surroundings and everything around it is different.
But I just don't I don't think that. I think
that there are certain generations that look at things. I've
said when I was growing up, to go somewhere and
(36:26):
work twenty thirty forty years was a badge of honor.
And I think that there's a generation now that said,
why would you do that? I want to just stay
at one place. I think that that thinking is different.
But to think that kids are different and not going
to be affected by him leaving, I just I don't
agree with that. Not every kids could, by the way,
but gonna be able to follow him to LSU. Maybe
a couple, maybe three or four maybe, but he may
(36:48):
want to go and take a kid from Texas, nexas
A and m Alabama, Michigan, you know, all these other places.
They come to LSU if that's where he ultimately goes.
And so I don't think everybody's happy. Our colleague gar
tore has quote tweeted that sound bite and said, I
know for a fact that on all players are happy
about this situation. Of course, not.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Because you're having success with this coach. Of course you
don't want to see him go. And it just sucks
because I think I am with Jason, and I feel
like the big thing is like relationships in sports and
college are not the same that they were even just
five years ago. You're building relationships and you're trying to
build a foundation. I don't know if you can do
(37:28):
that anymore. There is no foundation.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
You don't have time.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
You're right, yeah, there's and it's ever changing every year
in college sports. It's different and different. But I think
that I don't want to call it a convenient excuse,
but it feels like that for Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Like both can be true, like Jason said, and.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
We'll find out on Saturday. After the Egg Now teg
with Dancing with the Stars, watch the Super Bowl Shuffle
doc tonight. She's Monty, I'm Dan thanks to Jason, Isaac
and Sam the Gottlib Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (37:55):
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