December 29, 2025 • 35 mins
In this edition of Love AND Hate: Dan, Monse and the crew share what they loved most and hated most from the weekend. Dan and Monse welcome former Chargers GM Tom Telesco onto the show to get his thoughts on some of the major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan and Monse weigh in on Marcus Freeman and his announced decision that he is running it back at Notre Dame.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Happy Monday. If there is such a thing, Welcome in
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Tom te LESCo, former NFL GM's gonna join us in
about twenty five minutes. I want to get his thoughts
on the two point conversion. If he's the GM, if
he's Brandon Bean sitting up there in the cold weather
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of Buffalo where there was a wind, just just a smitch,
just a bit of wind, what do you want us
team to go for two or kick the extra points.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm really glad we have the Weather channel on right
now so we can see the weather in Buffalo and
what you wanted Michael Badgeley to do.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yesterday there was a picture on the shores of Lake
Erie of Buffalo where it looked like there were ninety
mile pro hour winds. Trees were at a ninety degree angle.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Bees were flown over the well.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Jason Stuart agrees with me. Social media agreed with Manzi
in that the bills were right and going for two.
I said they should have tried the extra point to
tie it. Jason agrees, and then when I asked Big
Mike at Fox Sports Radio, he said he didn't care.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Right, so the thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, that's where we are on this. Chrispurhat, are you
kick the extra point or go for two? Sort of
guy in that situation last night.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
I think overtime it is an abomination in the eyes
of God himself. So yes, anything to avoid overtime, I
am good with that. I think that ball is slick.
And I also have some history with Michael Badgeley seeing
him kick in Detroit in the past. I don't think
I would trust his leg even if it was bone dry.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean again again, the OJ number does not bode
well for him, Like Karma's not going to be on
your side, Isaac, go for two, kick the extra point.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
I would have gone for two. One other reason is
because the previous extra point, maybe it was a little low,
but it was blocked.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
The Eagles have.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Had a tradition this year in a history of blocking
kicks place kicks in clutch situations well earlier this season
against the Rams, and had the Eagles gone on to
win the game in overtime, everybody today would have been shouting.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You are josh Alin in a play to win the game?
Why didn't you go for two?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Thank you? Isaac Loan Crime.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, but I'm shouting you lost because you went for two.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Sure, yeah no, but the play was there. The play
was there, and it's it's just I don't disagree with
the call.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
That's that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
We're here discussing it because you disagreed.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I completely disagree, and I.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Hated Red Sox Fan agreed with me. Dan all right,
Red Sox Fan three zero four.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Thank you. Josh Allen was mad. He's throwing his he's
throwing his tablet, he's throwing his helmet, everything that came
with it. But man, that was all on McDermott. All
on McDermott. And it may lead to a road out
of Buffalo. The road to Milan runs through Saint Louis see.
Elia Mallin and Alyssa Lewin Amber Glenn compete at the
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twenty twenty six Privileging US Figure Skating Championships January seventh
through the eleventh. Be there as the twenty twenty sixth
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last Monday of twenty twenty fives. Montsey pointed this out
earlier in the show A Weird Monday. It's our last
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love and hate for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What did you love?
Speaker 9 (03:35):
God? I love you?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Meet these player Hays Jason Stewart, this is your brainchild,
will let you start it out?
Speaker 7 (03:52):
Oh wow, do I have a doozy for you? So
remember earlier in the season, I said that the Aaron
Glenn story with the Jets is becoming my favorite story.
It's officially my favorite story of the season. And this
is my favorite stat maybe of all time, that the
Jests have yet to get an interception in seventeen weeks
sixteen games. The other quarterbacks are thirty four touchdowns, zero interceptions.
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And it wouldn't be that funny if Aaron Glenn was
hired from the Lions as their defensive coordinator. He's a
defensive head coach and he might be the only head
coach to oversee a team having zero interceptions and a season.
I'm rooting for that this season. And also side note
earlier this year and this time slot Dan and Doug
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disagreed with me when I said, I think Aaron Glenn's
handling of the press conferences and being combative with reporters
is going to expedite his exit. If not this season
and right after this season, Dan said no, I think
he comes back next year. I think Woody Johnson gave
him a vote of confidence. This is Aaron Glenn's answer
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when he summed up his team effort yesterday after the game.
Speaker 10 (05:02):
I always talk about how we come out when we
played with effort. Today was probably the one time I
feel like our effort wasn't that's good I would want
to be. And that's just me not bsing you guys,
just being on this. I didn't think the effort was
where it need to be.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
And then this morning he wakes up and he had
a rethinking for reporters about the effort yesterday.
Speaker 10 (05:23):
Effort was not the issue with that game, I thought,
I guys, I thought they played all the way to
the very end.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
So Dan, I want to give you one last chance
before the season ends. Should Aaron Glenn keep his job
for next season?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I got my hate for the week. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Is his name Jason?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
My hate is Jason Stewart. That's really tough. I I
thought there was no way that Aaron Glenn could lose.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
His job, right, I understand that I thought that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
This season was the throwaway and yesterday did not help.
And then changing, So to answer your point, Aaron Glenn
first of all said it was the effort. Well, the
effort is on the head coach.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Then when you come back and say it wasn't the
effort that the guys try hard, that they tried their best,
then you're like, all right, we're thirty nine points worse
than the New England Patriots. Like that's that's what you're
That's what you're essentially saying if you're Aaron Glenn, and
that is also not a good look.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, you're a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It was like my guy, yeah, yeah, and sorry, thirty
two points. It ended forty two to ten. It was forty.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Two to three in there.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's right the touchdown run. I will, Jason, to answer
your question. I will say, gosh, I'm really wavering. I
thought today that Aaron Glenn probably would lose his job,
and now you put me on the spot. So I'm
saying he's gonna stay, He'll be back for year two,
just because of how you who took the bus. Doug
Gottlieb's not here anymore too, he's out coaching basketball. So
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I am the lone one under the bus right now,
getting backed up with that semi.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's true, it is true.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Don't worry. Jason may get his later on in the second.
Chris Purfat, what'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (07:18):
Boy?
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I have a lot more hate in me than love,
So this might be a little bit of a trick.
I'm going to get outside of footballs for a second.
I'm saving all of that for the hate side, all right.
Besides the fact that I love that the cheese grater
is like now a traveling thing to any team that
plays the Green Bay Packers, a proud tradition and other
teams in the NFC and worth I love seeing that.
But I gotta I gotta give this to a team
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that I've always been very hard on, the Athletics over
the weekend. Late in the week he actually gave leftfielder
Tyler Sarderstrom a deal worth eighty six million dollars, a
seven year contract with a club option for an eighth season.
Now with Escalators, this can max out to one hundred
and thirty one million dollar and I bring this up
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because that is the largest contract in athletics history up
until this point.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
And I am very happy to see the the athletics,
the cityless, nameless, wandering athletics, finally live up to the
reputation of having big money bags and actually, you know,
joining the twentieth century of spending money on player. I'm sorry,
it's the twenty first century. Now, that's the twentieth century.
They're still behind the times. But hey, you know, baby steps.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well the Dodgers just on the triple A reliever for
just as much. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, right right, Dodgers.
I think he got pod for baseball. Here's your nineteen
trillion dollar contract that will owe you in twenty seventy five. Sorry,
you guys got to the point that now, Jason, what
do you got? Moncie, what do you got for your love?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
To do it?
Speaker 11 (08:50):
All?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know, it's been a really nice couple of days
being a Clippers.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Fan, because there was rough for a really long time.
And today I.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Didn't hear what no, sorry go on.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And today I said to Dan right now, I was like,
you know what the best part is I didn't have
to worry about what I wanted to wear today.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
I could proudly wear a Clipper shirt.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
They've won four in a row and Kawhi Leonard a
career high fifty five points yesterday into it Dome, beating
the Detroit Pistons in a the way the Clippers have
beat not just the Pistons, but the Rockets, Trailblazers on
the road. They beat the Lakers, but the Lakers were depleted.
But that was the first of this four game winning streak.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
They look a lot better.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Derek Jones's back, and I really did not expect.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
To have.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
A good little moment as a Clippers fan because of
how the season started. So that was my favorite part.
Kawhi Leonard looking good out there. No one can stop
the claw.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Except maybe his knee. But right now he's good.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Right now is good.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Lakers, Rockets, Blazers, Pistons, not.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Too shabby, right, not too shabby.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
And let me tell you what the Rockets, they were
full squad.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Kawhi Leonard shut down both those twins in a matter
of a week, all right, shut them down.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So when we say Thompson twins, do you think n
B A well, yes, yes, what do you think of I?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Think Men without Hats and uh one hit wonders from
the eighties.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Isaac Low and cron Hold me, now, that's what I think?
You know? Do you know Thompson Twins?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Come on, is this a musical artist?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I mean not not by the huh yeah, so that's
the man. Is there a song? I would know that.
I just wouldn't know.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Hold me now, if you heard I heard, I would
know it.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
But just by that the.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Doctor, doctor, doctor?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
All right, Isaac? What you love from the Weekend?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
I love this quote by Philip Rivers. It came after
his Indianapolis Colts lost a technically meaningless game to the
Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 11 (10:57):
That's the thought of meaningless games, which I know that
gets thrown around, and it is in the sense of
it doesn't affect the postseason. There's no impact on the postseason.
But to say a game is meaningless is not in
my DNA, and I don't think it's into these guys.
Obviously what you saw today from an effort standpoint, because
those games we played in the backyard when we were
ten years old weren't meaningless, right, Nobody gave a rip
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about those but you went home crying or you went
home happy.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I think it's been so much fun to watch Philip
Rivers play over these last three weeks, regardless of results
and regardless of stats. And I actually have a theory
I'd like to run by you guys. I think that
over the last three weeks, Philip Rivers coming back has
earned him Hall of Fame votes down the road that
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he might not have gotten initially for perhaps a first
ballot Hall of Fame induction in his first year of eligibility.
That's my theory that he has just added to his
legend and garnered some extra Hall of Fame votes what
he's done coming back over the last three weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I agree wholeheartedly. I think that is going to be
one of the benefits. And his point about meaningless games
is he actually added value to games that maybe we
wouldn't have cared about or cared about from the Colt side. Now,
the Colts have had a juggernaut of opponents with the Seahawks,
forty nine Ers, and Jaguars here in these three weeks here,
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but he made it interesting and gave you a reason
to root for the Colts or to be interested in
the game that they were playing. On their side, of
things despite not being in the playoff picture. So his
point on the meaningless games was a bullseye.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That cold season went down so fast right like they
were in such a high and it completely fell off
the cliff in the blink of an eye. And bringing
in Philip Rivers brought the fan base together again to
like at least end on a positive note.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, masked some of uh huh, some of Yeah the
stink yep I just love my cousin came into town.
Everybody here got to meet him, went to the Chargers
game on Saturday. He had something that he had been
looking forward to for a long time, and we had
a great time. It was the first time I'd been
at so far for an NFL game, and so that
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was unique because usually I'm here on Sundays and haven't
gone to any of the primetime games. But we're able
to do it on a Saturday afternoon, a glorious Saturday afternoon,
with two teams with uh much more than just making
it to the playoff aspirations, playing a football game that
wasn't back and forth, but it was just a really
good and it wasn't even a high level game because
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I don't think the Chargers played their best, but they
had opportunities. It was dramatic, It was a lot of fun.
And I got to ride to the game with Jason Stewarts,
so yes, we had a good time.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Well that's my hate, Can I can I just take
the hate.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
Let I have part of this with you, So let
it out for both of us.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Okay, So, being at the stadium to watch your team
get punched in the face, you feel for the fans
like you don't even take this into consideration, where you're
just watching these games on TV, right, Like just sitting
there next to my son, who's the biggest Chargers fan,
I know, just giving up those two bombs for fourteen
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to nothing, and the Chargers weren't moving the ball. You're like,
people paid really good money, they spent a Saturday trying
to get into this stadium, They're gonna spend hours getting out,
ye and they're just sitting there in the first five
minutes of this game feeling like crap. That was my hate.
I hated that feeling.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
We had seats where Jayden Higgins scored his touchdown. Oh fun,
and so like you see this Stroud pass just going
AND's like Wally's it's gonna score as long as as
long as it's someone on point. And I felt like
the ball was up in the air for about twenty seconds,
but off and running in the Texans never looked back.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Such an emotional game. That Chargers game was everything the
Chargers are. They give you hope, Yeah, take it away.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
That's been a Chargers fan?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
What did you hate from the sweet That's.
Speaker 11 (15:03):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
But I will say can I I did hate that,
but I don't want to double up on that. I
actually I agree with a lot of what Isaac said.
So I hated that the Colts couldn't get a win
at home with Philip Rivers to kind of wrap up
the season. And they were so there, Like the Jaguars
didn't play out of their mind like we've seen.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
The Colts were in it and I was rooting for them.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It was like, there's no way Philip Rivers doesn't win
one game, right, There's no way he comes back there.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
He's gonna win one, win it at home.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And at least wrap up the season for the Colts
in a much lighter way because they're headed to Houston
that's not gonna be pretty. I doubt Philip Rivers plays
that game against Houston. He's fighting, you know, they you
but in the young guy in there, he's gonna.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Handle this a lot better than me.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So I just I hated that Philip Rivers couldn't get
a win, and the last one at home for the Colts,
because what a year they had, just unfair.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
By the way, before that game, they had a local
youth choir or of about one hundred kids sing the
national anthem, and somebody on social media posted a picture
of them and said, hey, look, Philip Rivers kids are
getting them.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Very funny. He had his high school team that right,
he did?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
He did that?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Was I did see that. It's very very funny. Isaac, Isaac,
what'd you hate from the weekend?
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Well, I'm gonna uh Collins looking good these days, by
the way, So I'm on the UCLA broadcast.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Yeah, slim down, Byn.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
So what happens when you stopped spending twenty one hours
a day watching film? Tank that Hollins anyway. It also
has to do with the Chargers Texans game. Let me
take you back to late in the fourth quarter, the Texans,
holding on to a twenty to sixteen lead. Houston has
a third down and nine at its forty six yard line.
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If the Chargers got to stop there, they get the
ball back. C. J. Stroud is sacked by a Dafe
oh Way and day on. However, there's a penalty on
the Chargers for illegal contact. What I hated was that
it was a dubious flag to be thrown in that situation.
Could you make the argument that by the letter of
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the law it's illegal contact, Yes, but I feel that
the receiver also initiated the contact at the same time
as the Chargers defensive back. And I feel in that situation,
if you're gonna make a game decide and call, you
want it to be obvious. You want it to be
a whale and not a minno. If I can put
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it that way, and if I have to rewind it
six hundred times.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
To slow it down and see it to see that.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
It's a penalty, it's just not the flag you throw
in that situation.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Pick up the flag. Pick up the flag. Have some
awareness of what the game situation is. Don't take away
from the excite. Again, You're in the stadium, everyone's going
nuts about this sack, and then there's a flag with
that non consequential flag It's like, what a doubt, right.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's like, if you would have made this call in
the first quarter, we're not having this discussion.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
But what that's when you make this call, and that's
really what upset me.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
But Isaac just expressed it so eloquently.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
We did. I'll tell you what I hated from the
Texans Chargers game, because that's what we're focusing on here,
the Texans coming to Los Angeles and the Chargers saying, yeah,
we'll wear our Supercharger Navy uniforms. So it's Navy on Navy, Like,
what do you like of all the teams that you
could pick to use against thee all the uniform combinations
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or the different teams that came in. This is the
third time that they've worn those uniforms. I wanted to
see some some baby blue, wanted to see some of
the mustard, and instead what I we got the what
I call the Leslie O'Neill era Chargers. Yes, yes, sorry, no,
that's okay. Chris Perfett just has to quick tell us
(18:51):
what he hated from Charges Texans.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
No, well, not from Charges tex Well, we all four
of up. I'm really heated about this. I I was
out of my mind until he until Ilo played at
the top of the hour. I hate Lincoln Riley. I
hate this entire thing of USC Notre Dame being broken up.
I hate it all. I hate every last bit of it.
And I hate USC acting like this is somehow Notre
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Dame's fault. Lincoln Riley's been playing playing foot seas about
dropping this rivalry for years. It sucks. I've listened to
I've listened to Brady Quinn. I've listened to Petros, Papa Dakes,
I've listened to guys close to this rivalry. The only
people in favor of this rivalry going away are short
sighted believing that USC will pick this up somehow in
the Big ten. It's the Big two, Little eight. Most
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of the time, you're not gonna you're not locked in
playing Ohio State Michigan every year. You're going like you're
going to miss this. You're I don't know what other
tradition we have to sacrifice on the altar here.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
This sucks.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
This going away sucks, and Lincoln Riley is a coward
and a liar.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Loven Hates on a Monday, He's the final one of
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
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Speaker 2 (20:07):
The road to Milan runs through Saint Louis see Elia Mallinan,
Alyssa lou and Amber Glenn compete at the twenty twenty
six privag In US Figure Skating Championships January seventh through
the eleventh. Be there as the twenty twenty sixth US
Olympic Figure Skating team is named. Live tickets at US
figure Skating dot Org. She's Monty Belano. So I'm Dan Byer,
i am down three to two. We'll see if our
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next guest will even it up for us, or if
Monty and Crue will leave with a four to two victory.
He's the former general manager of the Chargers and the Raiders,
and he joins us every Monday. Tom Telesco, Welcome back
to Fox Sports Radio. Do you know what this question
is going to be?
Speaker 9 (20:44):
I have no idea. I know I wouldn't think.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Okay either. That's that's all right, don't worry. Last night
Bill's down one. Sean McDermott decides to go for two.
As a former GM, you're Brandon Bean sitting up there
watching how the second half has unfolded. Do you agree
or disagree with Sean McDermott's decision.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
I agreed with the decision. I don't know where that's
going to come out there here we go, I do.
I just think, look, you've got one play from a
two yard line to win the game. Rather than number
one you kick the extra point, which at that point,
with that weather and then Michael Badgley has been a
little bit shaky. You know, that's not a guaranteed kick.
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But even if he makes the kick, you know you
go to overtime. You still have to get stops, at
least one stop in overtime, whether it's the initial kickoff
or after you score, and you got to drive the score.
So I just think taking that, taking one play from
the two yard line with Josh Allen, who you know,
if not, he's one of the best resident quarterbacks in
the league. I'll take that every day of the week.
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They had the right play baled up. He just missed him.
He doesn't miss him very often, but he missed him.
But I like to call, and.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
That's all the time we have for Tom to latch.
Just kidding four two, Jason Stewart and I are outvoted
here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Thank you Tom, because now Dan owes me something Starbucks.
I don't know what it is, but he owes me something.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Let's move on.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
This DK Metcalf situation seems messier and messier every single day.
Jay Glaser comes out and says that there was some
sort of history with this fan prior to this game.
But then we also saw earlier in the year Lamar
Jackson having another incident with the fan when they were
playing the Bills. Did the NFL handle this well with
dk Metcalf suspending him twice obviously putting his hands on
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a fan never?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Never?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Yeah, And that's the issue right there, And it's just
how the player handled it, even though I'm sure it's challenging.
But like every NFL sideline, every team has at least
one and usually more than one, somewhat insecurity, whether it's
your director security, whether it's the system director security. They're
on your sidelines. And then there's NFL security that's on
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the field during the game. So what the players don't
have to be just reminded of is if you do
you see a fan as acting like that, point them
out to either your director's security or the NFL security director.
Let them handle it. The last thing you can do,
because you'll never win, is go up to the fan
and start engaging with them. Football is an emotional game,
you dk metcalf is playing an emotional game, and right
(23:17):
in the middle of the game, can you imagine just
dealing with the fans. So that's why you have people
down there to help you that situation. I don't know
all the specifics behind it, but I just wish he
would have went to his club or the NFL that say, look,
just take care of that fan right there, and then
you never had that situation happen.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Tom zelasco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, former
GM of the Chargers and Raiders. She's Mancy Belanios. I'm
Dan Beyer. I'm sure John Lynch is doing a little
peacocking considering how good that Brock Purty has been playing
as of late, second straight touchdown set, the second straight
game with five touchdowns. Have you seen a different Brock
party when he's obviously been healthy this season. Now that
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the contract stuff is in the rearview mirror, you.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Know he's played like this at other times his career.
So it's not a surprise. It just seems like it's
happened with other players too, and it's just as unfortunate.
But it tends to happen. Is wherever you get drafted,
you just kind of get labeled from where that draft was,
and especially players that get drafted late, you know, rather
than letting your play dictate. Once your career starts and
start playing, well, you know what that kind of dictate
(24:23):
you know what the narrative is around you. And I
think people just have this perception that always that he's
a seventh rong draft pick and he shouldn't be good,
but he is outstanding. And I know, going back, I
guess there's be a couple of years ago when I
was with the with the Raiders, we sat down with
their scouts and just we did a deep dive on
Rock Purty. Not not that we're going to try and
acquire him at the time he was with San Francisco,
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but more like, hey, look we were in the draft
and looking at quarterbacks. They're not all going to be
justin Herbert or Andrew luck where they're a big, strong,
physical rocket arm. There's there's other factors that go into
play in the position to play at a high level.
And we watched a lot of Rock Purty and there
were throws all over the tape of just anticipation, ball placement, accuracy.
His arm strength is plenty good enough. You know, it's
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not a rocket, but it's plenty good enough. And he's
a good athlete and he can move around, so all
those factors have been there. Last year, they had so
many injuries on the offense. I think it's hard for
him to really get going, and he had some injuries himself.
But what you're seeing last night is what he can
do and he's really not a standing player.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Is Todd Bowles in the hot seat?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Boy?
Speaker 9 (25:25):
I wouldn't think so. I just think, you know, people
are so quick to uh, I guess, to put people
in the hot seat. But no, he's an outstanding head
coach and he's proven that year after year, and he's
a really good defensive mind. So what's going on there
right now? I don't understand it, because there's they're just
not playing the way that they're capable and usually how
they play and sometimes thinks snowball and not every year
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is going to be a great year. But I just
think he's a good coach. They have a really good
staff there. I don't I can't put my finger on
exactly what the issue is. I know that was a
tough loss, but they're still in it. But now I
don't see that at all. I think he's a really good,
really good head coach in this league.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Tom Dalaska joining us here on Fox Sports Radio kind
of along those lines, how would you evaluate Aaron Glenn
and the Jets, especially after yesterday's de moralizing loss to
the Patriots and his future with the team.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
Yeah, those are difficult because when you hire a head coach,
you have to be thinking more than one year. There's
a big transition that that goes on, and he's still
he's not you know, he's learning to be a head
coach on the run, which you know, which it happens
when your first time I coach. Obviously, some things you
have to learn on the run. But the last month
or so, it's just been they haven't been competitive, So
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it's it's tough to sit through for a front offeras
or ownership. I know that, but you know, you put
a plan together. There's the reason why you hired him
as a head coach. Obviously, they made some changes in
personnel throughout the year that weakened them for the short term.
Hopefully he was strengthened him for the long term. But
but you know, they sent some pretty good players out
the door, and look, they weren't playing with the quarterback
yesterday and haven't played with the quarterbacks for a couple
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of weeks and really for the year. So it's hard
to put, you know, a really competitive product on the
field when you send out some really good defensive players
and you haven't said a lot a quarterback yet. So
you have to stick with the plan as hard.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
As it is.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
You just can't wait for the season to be over
so you can start working on next year. And that's
what we're both get working on real soon. And they
have a lot of draft picks. I assume they should
have some cap space with the players they sent out
and we get moving next year. But they have to
show some market improvement next year.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Who is your coach of the year?
Speaker 9 (27:28):
You know, there's so many of this. Yeah, I know,
I'm I guess I'm part of the media now, but
I'm not really big on you know, ranking them. But
there's there's so many between Graybull and Cohen and Ben
Johnson and Mike McDonald, Kyle shanahanam you wanted last night?
With what they did and with with what they're dealing with.
I mean, all of these guys could be a coach
of the year. Sean Payton, I know that he could be,
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like not only as a head, as a coach of
the year, but just team building, working with George Peyton,
what they've what they've done in Denver the last couple
of years, and honestly, even Dave Kanals in Carolina with
what they've done, I thought Carolina was still a couple
of years away from competing with their roster and they've
done the outstanding job. So I mean, I'd say there's
you know, six or seven you can make a case
for which is great in the NS League. But you know,
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there's always that recency bias. And he watched San Francisco
last night. It's hard to say that Kylie Shanahan shouldn't
be it shouldn't be the coach of the year.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
See, we aren't always trying to fire head coaches. We're
also trying to lift them up right, and look at
you got the coach of the Year. Tom we appreciate
the time, Happy New Year, best of luck in twenty
twenty six, and can't wait to talk to you again.
Appreciate it sounds good.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
Happy New Year to both of you.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Thank you.
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with us, as is Jason Stewart and Chris Purfett. You
may have heard Isaac mention some news about USC and
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Notre Dame and Lincoln Riley responding to why they aren't
going to continue their rivalry with the Fighting Hours. But
there was other news involving Notre Dame and that's Marcus
Freeman is going to be back with the Fighting Irish
tweeting today I see you in twenty twenty six. I'm paraphrasing,
but Diana Rassini was on with the Herd earlier today.
Now they were talking NFL, talking New York Giants, but
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Marcus Freeman's name came up because Freeman is going to
be staying in South Bend. This was part of that conversation.
Speaker 12 (29:45):
The New York Giants were not the only team who
were interested in Marcus Freeman. There were at least four
other teams I know poking around on Marcus Freeman. And
when I say poking around, because some of those teams
have a coach currently in place right which makes sense
because there's only two available head coaching jobs right now
on the table, that being the New York Giants and
the Tennessee Titans, who you know, both organizations definitely had
(30:07):
plans of bringing Marcus Freeman in.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
So and that's what kind of stood out to me
is when she used the number four right away at
my ears, kind of you know, I figure out the four, yeah,
and who would be looking and who would be considering it. Also, Mancie,
I think that there's more to the Marcus Freeman situation.
And I know this this may change things, but the Giants.
Maybe Arnest committed to Jackson Dart as we thought, you
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never know who's going to come in and be the
next head coach in that scenario. But I also think
that Marcus Freeman maybe looked at New York, the Giants situation,
and actually the Jets situation plays into it as well,
looked at the Tennessee situations that okay, that one's open,
and maybe he heard from through the behind the scenes
on what teams with coaches were looking. But it tells
(30:53):
me that he looked at Tennessee and he looked at
the Giants and said, I'm good, like I don't need
to be a part of that something that like is
it can't miss sort of deal. So you know what
that says to me, I'm wondering about the future of
cam Warden. I'm wondering about the future of Jackson Dart
in New York because Marcus Freeman says, I'd rather just
stay in college.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, but I don't blame Marcus Freeman at all.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
You kind of have unfinished business at Notre Dame and
you should go back. Maybe it's not even it's not
even just that Dan, right, it's beyond the situation that
you can see right now in the NFL with each team,
it's the incoming class of quarterbacks. Like what is who
is the selling point here? Is it location? Is it
a player or is it this? It doesn't sell like
(31:36):
anything is selling, might as well stick where you are,
which is I feel like refreshing to hear that Marcus
Freeman was like, no, I'm just gonna you know, there's nothing.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I haven't finished business over here, Like I'm gonna finish
this out.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
It's not like next year people aren't going to be
interested in Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's also refreshing to hear a restructured contract.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Sure, because that was the only that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It's not like he's you know what, We're good. We
don't have to change any of the numbers. But I'm
happy here. That could have been an option, but it wasn't.
I think it also just gives you the state of
the NFL. And the reason I bring the Jets into
this is because Jason thinks that Aaron Glenn should be gone.
I am admitting that there's a lot of evidence in
considering what happened yesterday and maybe why they do have
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to make a change even after only one year, even
after Glenn was brought in to change the culture. But
that's the reason why, because I think that's what Marcus
Freeman does. Marcus Freeman comes into a place not as
the hot offensive coordinator, not coming in as the defense
that's a top five NFL defense or one that's going
to just give quarterbacks fits around the NFL. Marcus Freeman
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is going to go in with a culture and that's
what Aaron Glenn tried to do. And it may not
even give him a full season. So if you're going
into the NFL and maybe that's one of the jobs
as well, that could have been a possibility for him.
He finds the situation maybe with whoever the ownership is
of those teams, saying if I'm coming in for culture
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and I'm seeing what they're doing with some of these
other head coaches, maybe college is best for me. I
think that probably played a part of it as well.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Absolutely, we've sat here and discussed many different situations with
different coaches where it's not or players or individuals where
it's not always greener on the other side, and I
think that's what he saw. He's like, why what is
out there that is better than what I have here
where things are working for me. Obviously he's mad about
the situation that they didn't get into the College Football
play Off, but I just think he realizes, like, this
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is where I need to be. I have unfinished business.
Let's talk in a couple of years about the NFL again.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, well, Notre Dame didn't go to a bowl game,
so he wasn't at a bull presser like Lincoln Riley
was to talk about the reason why the rivalry is
no longer. Jason Stewart, your thoughts on Marcus Freeman staying
at nd.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Did you guys also get the feeling just by the
word in here or maybe if you just read between
the lines, they're running it back next year. Everything seems
to be at you know, everything seems to be lining
up for next year with Notre Dame, and then we're
going to have the same conversational year from now. Safe
to say, I.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Think we're gonna have the same conversation until he actually
leaves or just gets a deal from Notre Dame that
makes him the highest paid head coach in college football,
or whatever the case may be. But I think that
that I think we are always going to hear his name.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, and I also think that he thinks like next
year they're are for sure into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Well they are because of that and any expansion.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Breck.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
You got what I'm saying, Like he's why, I'm like, no, not,
you're for sure and might as well try this one
more time.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah you do? You do lose. Jeremiah Love is gonna
be a top ten pick, maybe even the top five
pick depending on things shakeout. But Notre Dame gets to
keep Marcus Freeman. Not a huge shock. The road to
Milan runs through Saint Louis See Ilia Mallanin, Alyssa lew
and Amber Glenn compete at the twenty twenty six Privileged
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Tom te LESCo, former NFL GM's gonna join us in
about twenty five minutes. I want to get his thoughts
on the two point conversion. If he's the GM, if
he's Brandon Bean sitting up there in the cold weather
(00:28):
of Buffalo where there was a wind, just just a smitch,
just a bit of wind, what do you want us
team to go for two or kick the extra points.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm really glad we have the Weather channel on right
now so we can see the weather in Buffalo and
what you wanted Michael Badgeley to do.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yesterday there was a picture on the shores of Lake
Erie of Buffalo where it looked like there were ninety
mile pro hour winds. Trees were at a ninety degree angle.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Bees were flown over the well.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Jason Stuart agrees with me. Social media agreed with Manzi
in that the bills were right and going for two.
I said they should have tried the extra point to
tie it. Jason agrees, and then when I asked Big
Mike at Fox Sports Radio, he said he didn't care.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Right, so the thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, that's where we are on this. Chrispurhat, are you
kick the extra point or go for two? Sort of
guy in that situation last night.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
I think overtime it is an abomination in the eyes
of God himself. So yes, anything to avoid overtime, I
am good with that. I think that ball is slick.
And I also have some history with Michael Badgeley seeing
him kick in Detroit in the past. I don't think
I would trust his leg even if it was bone dry.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean again again, the OJ number does not bode
well for him, Like Karma's not going to be on
your side, Isaac, go for two, kick the extra point.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
I would have gone for two. One other reason is
because the previous extra point, maybe it was a little low,
but it was blocked.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
The Eagles have.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Had a tradition this year in a history of blocking
kicks place kicks in clutch situations well earlier this season
against the Rams, and had the Eagles gone on to
win the game in overtime, everybody today would have been shouting.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You are josh Alin in a play to win the game?
Why didn't you go for two?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Thank you? Isaac Loan Crime.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, but I'm shouting you lost because you went for two.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Sure, yeah no, but the play was there. The play
was there, and it's it's just I don't disagree with
the call.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
That's that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
We're here discussing it because you disagreed.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I completely disagree, and I.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Hated Red Sox Fan agreed with me. Dan all right,
Red Sox Fan three zero four.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Thank you. Josh Allen was mad. He's throwing his he's
throwing his tablet, he's throwing his helmet, everything that came
with it. But man, that was all on McDermott. All
on McDermott. And it may lead to a road out
of Buffalo. The road to Milan runs through Saint Louis see.
Elia Mallin and Alyssa Lewin Amber Glenn compete at the
(03:10):
twenty twenty six Privileging US Figure Skating Championships January seventh
through the eleventh. Be there as the twenty twenty sixth
US Olympic Figure Skating team is named Live tickets at
US figure Skating dot Org. It is Monday. It's our
last Monday of twenty twenty fives. Montsey pointed this out
earlier in the show A Weird Monday. It's our last
(03:32):
love and hate for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
What did you love?
Speaker 9 (03:35):
God? I love you?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Meet these player Hays Jason Stewart, this is your brainchild,
will let you start it out?
Speaker 7 (03:52):
Oh wow, do I have a doozy for you? So
remember earlier in the season, I said that the Aaron
Glenn story with the Jets is becoming my favorite story.
It's officially my favorite story of the season. And this
is my favorite stat maybe of all time, that the
Jests have yet to get an interception in seventeen weeks
sixteen games. The other quarterbacks are thirty four touchdowns, zero interceptions.
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And it wouldn't be that funny if Aaron Glenn was
hired from the Lions as their defensive coordinator. He's a
defensive head coach and he might be the only head
coach to oversee a team having zero interceptions and a season.
I'm rooting for that this season. And also side note
earlier this year and this time slot Dan and Doug
(04:36):
disagreed with me when I said, I think Aaron Glenn's
handling of the press conferences and being combative with reporters
is going to expedite his exit. If not this season
and right after this season, Dan said no, I think
he comes back next year. I think Woody Johnson gave
him a vote of confidence. This is Aaron Glenn's answer
(04:58):
when he summed up his team effort yesterday after the game.
Speaker 10 (05:02):
I always talk about how we come out when we
played with effort. Today was probably the one time I
feel like our effort wasn't that's good I would want
to be. And that's just me not bsing you guys,
just being on this. I didn't think the effort was
where it need to be.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
And then this morning he wakes up and he had
a rethinking for reporters about the effort yesterday.
Speaker 10 (05:23):
Effort was not the issue with that game, I thought,
I guys, I thought they played all the way to
the very end.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
So Dan, I want to give you one last chance
before the season ends. Should Aaron Glenn keep his job
for next season?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I got my hate for the week. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Is his name Jason?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
My hate is Jason Stewart. That's really tough. I I
thought there was no way that Aaron Glenn could lose.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
His job, right, I understand that I thought that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
This season was the throwaway and yesterday did not help.
And then changing, So to answer your point, Aaron Glenn
first of all said it was the effort. Well, the
effort is on the head coach.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Then when you come back and say it wasn't the
effort that the guys try hard, that they tried their best,
then you're like, all right, we're thirty nine points worse
than the New England Patriots. Like that's that's what you're
That's what you're essentially saying if you're Aaron Glenn, and
that is also not a good look.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, you're a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It was like my guy, yeah, yeah, and sorry, thirty
two points. It ended forty two to ten. It was forty.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Two to three in there.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's right the touchdown run. I will, Jason, to answer
your question. I will say, gosh, I'm really wavering. I
thought today that Aaron Glenn probably would lose his job,
and now you put me on the spot. So I'm
saying he's gonna stay, He'll be back for year two,
just because of how you who took the bus. Doug
Gottlieb's not here anymore too, he's out coaching basketball. So
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I am the lone one under the bus right now,
getting backed up with that semi.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's true, it is true.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Don't worry. Jason may get his later on in the second.
Chris Purfat, what'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (07:18):
Boy?
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I have a lot more hate in me than love,
So this might be a little bit of a trick.
I'm going to get outside of footballs for a second.
I'm saving all of that for the hate side, all right.
Besides the fact that I love that the cheese grater
is like now a traveling thing to any team that
plays the Green Bay Packers, a proud tradition and other
teams in the NFC and worth I love seeing that.
But I gotta I gotta give this to a team
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that I've always been very hard on, the Athletics over
the weekend. Late in the week he actually gave leftfielder
Tyler Sarderstrom a deal worth eighty six million dollars, a
seven year contract with a club option for an eighth season.
Now with Escalators, this can max out to one hundred
and thirty one million dollar and I bring this up
(08:01):
because that is the largest contract in athletics history up
until this point.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
And I am very happy to see the the athletics,
the cityless, nameless, wandering athletics, finally live up to the
reputation of having big money bags and actually, you know,
joining the twentieth century of spending money on player. I'm sorry,
it's the twenty first century. Now, that's the twentieth century.
They're still behind the times. But hey, you know, baby steps.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well the Dodgers just on the triple A reliever for
just as much. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, right right, Dodgers.
I think he got pod for baseball. Here's your nineteen
trillion dollar contract that will owe you in twenty seventy five. Sorry,
you guys got to the point that now, Jason, what
do you got? Moncie, what do you got for your love?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
To do it?
Speaker 11 (08:50):
All?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know, it's been a really nice couple of days
being a Clippers.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Fan, because there was rough for a really long time.
And today I.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Didn't hear what no, sorry go on.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And today I said to Dan right now, I was like,
you know what the best part is I didn't have
to worry about what I wanted to wear today.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
I could proudly wear a Clipper shirt.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
They've won four in a row and Kawhi Leonard a
career high fifty five points yesterday into it Dome, beating
the Detroit Pistons in a the way the Clippers have
beat not just the Pistons, but the Rockets, Trailblazers on
the road. They beat the Lakers, but the Lakers were depleted.
But that was the first of this four game winning streak.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
They look a lot better.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Derek Jones's back, and I really did not expect.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
To have.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
A good little moment as a Clippers fan because of
how the season started. So that was my favorite part.
Kawhi Leonard looking good out there. No one can stop
the claw.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Except maybe his knee. But right now he's good.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Right now is good.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Lakers, Rockets, Blazers, Pistons, not.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Too shabby, right, not too shabby.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
And let me tell you what the Rockets, they were
full squad.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Kawhi Leonard shut down both those twins in a matter
of a week, all right, shut them down.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So when we say Thompson twins, do you think n
B A well, yes, yes, what do you think of I?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Think Men without Hats and uh one hit wonders from
the eighties.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Isaac Low and cron Hold me, now, that's what I think?
You know? Do you know Thompson Twins?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Come on, is this a musical artist?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I mean not not by the huh yeah, so that's
the man. Is there a song? I would know that.
I just wouldn't know.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Hold me now, if you heard I heard, I would
know it.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
But just by that the.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Doctor, doctor, doctor?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
All right, Isaac? What you love from the Weekend?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
I love this quote by Philip Rivers. It came after
his Indianapolis Colts lost a technically meaningless game to the
Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 11 (10:57):
That's the thought of meaningless games, which I know that
gets thrown around, and it is in the sense of
it doesn't affect the postseason. There's no impact on the postseason.
But to say a game is meaningless is not in
my DNA, and I don't think it's into these guys.
Obviously what you saw today from an effort standpoint, because
those games we played in the backyard when we were
ten years old weren't meaningless, right, Nobody gave a rip
(11:17):
about those but you went home crying or you went
home happy.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I think it's been so much fun to watch Philip
Rivers play over these last three weeks, regardless of results
and regardless of stats. And I actually have a theory
I'd like to run by you guys. I think that
over the last three weeks, Philip Rivers coming back has
earned him Hall of Fame votes down the road that
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he might not have gotten initially for perhaps a first
ballot Hall of Fame induction in his first year of eligibility.
That's my theory that he has just added to his
legend and garnered some extra Hall of Fame votes what
he's done coming back over the last three weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I agree wholeheartedly. I think that is going to be
one of the benefits. And his point about meaningless games
is he actually added value to games that maybe we
wouldn't have cared about or cared about from the Colt side. Now,
the Colts have had a juggernaut of opponents with the Seahawks,
forty nine Ers, and Jaguars here in these three weeks here,
(12:23):
but he made it interesting and gave you a reason
to root for the Colts or to be interested in
the game that they were playing. On their side, of
things despite not being in the playoff picture. So his
point on the meaningless games was a bullseye.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
That cold season went down so fast right like they
were in such a high and it completely fell off
the cliff in the blink of an eye. And bringing
in Philip Rivers brought the fan base together again to
like at least end on a positive note.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, masked some of uh huh, some of Yeah the
stink yep I just love my cousin came into town.
Everybody here got to meet him, went to the Chargers
game on Saturday. He had something that he had been
looking forward to for a long time, and we had
a great time. It was the first time I'd been
at so far for an NFL game, and so that
(13:13):
was unique because usually I'm here on Sundays and haven't
gone to any of the primetime games. But we're able
to do it on a Saturday afternoon, a glorious Saturday afternoon,
with two teams with uh much more than just making
it to the playoff aspirations, playing a football game that
wasn't back and forth, but it was just a really
good and it wasn't even a high level game because
(13:36):
I don't think the Chargers played their best, but they
had opportunities. It was dramatic, It was a lot of fun.
And I got to ride to the game with Jason Stewarts,
so yes, we had a good time.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Well that's my hate, Can I can I just take
the hate.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
Let I have part of this with you, So let
it out for both of us.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Okay, So, being at the stadium to watch your team
get punched in the face, you feel for the fans
like you don't even take this into consideration, where you're
just watching these games on TV, right, Like just sitting
there next to my son, who's the biggest Chargers fan,
I know, just giving up those two bombs for fourteen
(14:16):
to nothing, and the Chargers weren't moving the ball. You're like,
people paid really good money, they spent a Saturday trying
to get into this stadium, They're gonna spend hours getting out,
ye and they're just sitting there in the first five
minutes of this game feeling like crap. That was my hate.
I hated that feeling.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
We had seats where Jayden Higgins scored his touchdown. Oh fun,
and so like you see this Stroud pass just going
AND's like Wally's it's gonna score as long as as
long as it's someone on point. And I felt like
the ball was up in the air for about twenty seconds,
but off and running in the Texans never looked back.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Such an emotional game. That Chargers game was everything the
Chargers are. They give you hope, Yeah, take it away.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
That's been a Chargers fan?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
What did you hate from the sweet That's.
Speaker 11 (15:03):
Part of it.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
But I will say can I I did hate that,
but I don't want to double up on that. I
actually I agree with a lot of what Isaac said.
So I hated that the Colts couldn't get a win
at home with Philip Rivers to kind of wrap up
the season. And they were so there, Like the Jaguars
didn't play out of their mind like we've seen.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
The Colts were in it and I was rooting for them.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It was like, there's no way Philip Rivers doesn't win
one game, right, There's no way he comes back there.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
He's gonna win one, win it at home.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And at least wrap up the season for the Colts
in a much lighter way because they're headed to Houston
that's not gonna be pretty. I doubt Philip Rivers plays
that game against Houston. He's fighting, you know, they you
but in the young guy in there, he's gonna.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Handle this a lot better than me.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So I just I hated that Philip Rivers couldn't get
a win, and the last one at home for the Colts,
because what a year they had, just unfair.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
By the way, before that game, they had a local
youth choir or of about one hundred kids sing the
national anthem, and somebody on social media posted a picture
of them and said, hey, look, Philip Rivers kids are
getting them.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Very funny. He had his high school team that right,
he did?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
He did that?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Was I did see that. It's very very funny. Isaac, Isaac,
what'd you hate from the weekend?
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Well, I'm gonna uh Collins looking good these days, by
the way, So I'm on the UCLA broadcast.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Yeah, slim down, Byn.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
So what happens when you stopped spending twenty one hours
a day watching film? Tank that Hollins anyway. It also
has to do with the Chargers Texans game. Let me
take you back to late in the fourth quarter, the Texans,
holding on to a twenty to sixteen lead. Houston has
a third down and nine at its forty six yard line.
(16:53):
If the Chargers got to stop there, they get the
ball back. C. J. Stroud is sacked by a Dafe
oh Way and day on. However, there's a penalty on
the Chargers for illegal contact. What I hated was that
it was a dubious flag to be thrown in that situation.
Could you make the argument that by the letter of
(17:16):
the law it's illegal contact, Yes, but I feel that
the receiver also initiated the contact at the same time
as the Chargers defensive back. And I feel in that situation,
if you're gonna make a game decide and call, you
want it to be obvious. You want it to be
a whale and not a minno. If I can put
(17:36):
it that way, and if I have to rewind it
six hundred times.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
To slow it down and see it to see that.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
It's a penalty, it's just not the flag you throw
in that situation.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Pick up the flag. Pick up the flag. Have some
awareness of what the game situation is. Don't take away
from the excite. Again, You're in the stadium, everyone's going
nuts about this sack, and then there's a flag with
that non consequential flag It's like, what a doubt, right.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's like, if you would have made this call in
the first quarter, we're not having this discussion.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
But what that's when you make this call, and that's
really what upset me.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
But Isaac just expressed it so eloquently.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
We did. I'll tell you what I hated from the
Texans Chargers game, because that's what we're focusing on here,
the Texans coming to Los Angeles and the Chargers saying, yeah,
we'll wear our Supercharger Navy uniforms. So it's Navy on Navy, Like,
what do you like of all the teams that you
could pick to use against thee all the uniform combinations
(18:30):
or the different teams that came in. This is the
third time that they've worn those uniforms. I wanted to
see some some baby blue, wanted to see some of
the mustard, and instead what I we got the what
I call the Leslie O'Neill era Chargers. Yes, yes, sorry, no,
that's okay. Chris Perfett just has to quick tell us
(18:51):
what he hated from Charges Texans.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
No, well, not from Charges tex Well, we all four
of up. I'm really heated about this. I I was
out of my mind until he until Ilo played at
the top of the hour. I hate Lincoln Riley. I
hate this entire thing of USC Notre Dame being broken up.
I hate it all. I hate every last bit of it.
And I hate USC acting like this is somehow Notre
(19:14):
Dame's fault. Lincoln Riley's been playing playing foot seas about
dropping this rivalry for years. It sucks. I've listened to
I've listened to Brady Quinn. I've listened to Petros, Papa Dakes,
I've listened to guys close to this rivalry. The only
people in favor of this rivalry going away are short
sighted believing that USC will pick this up somehow in
the Big ten. It's the Big two, Little eight. Most
(19:35):
of the time, you're not gonna you're not locked in
playing Ohio State Michigan every year. You're going like you're
going to miss this. You're I don't know what other
tradition we have to sacrifice on the altar here.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
This sucks.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
This going away sucks, and Lincoln Riley is a coward
and a liar.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Loven Hates on a Monday, He's the final one of
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
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Speaker 2 (20:07):
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i am down three to two. We'll see if our
(20:27):
next guest will even it up for us, or if
Monty and Crue will leave with a four to two victory.
He's the former general manager of the Chargers and the Raiders,
and he joins us every Monday. Tom Telesco, Welcome back
to Fox Sports Radio. Do you know what this question
is going to be?
Speaker 9 (20:44):
I have no idea. I know I wouldn't think.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Okay either. That's that's all right, don't worry. Last night
Bill's down one. Sean McDermott decides to go for two.
As a former GM, you're Brandon Bean sitting up there
watching how the second half has unfolded. Do you agree
or disagree with Sean McDermott's decision.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
I agreed with the decision. I don't know where that's
going to come out there here we go, I do.
I just think, look, you've got one play from a
two yard line to win the game. Rather than number
one you kick the extra point, which at that point,
with that weather and then Michael Badgley has been a
little bit shaky. You know, that's not a guaranteed kick.
(21:27):
But even if he makes the kick, you know you
go to overtime. You still have to get stops, at
least one stop in overtime, whether it's the initial kickoff
or after you score, and you got to drive the score.
So I just think taking that, taking one play from
the two yard line with Josh Allen, who you know,
if not, he's one of the best resident quarterbacks in
the league. I'll take that every day of the week.
(21:49):
They had the right play baled up. He just missed him.
He doesn't miss him very often, but he missed him.
But I like to call, and.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
That's all the time we have for Tom to latch.
Just kidding four two, Jason Stewart and I are outvoted
here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Thank you Tom, because now Dan owes me something Starbucks.
I don't know what it is, but he owes me something.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Let's move on.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
This DK Metcalf situation seems messier and messier every single day.
Jay Glaser comes out and says that there was some
sort of history with this fan prior to this game.
But then we also saw earlier in the year Lamar
Jackson having another incident with the fan when they were
playing the Bills. Did the NFL handle this well with
dk Metcalf suspending him twice obviously putting his hands on
(22:32):
a fan never?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Never?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Yeah, And that's the issue right there, And it's just
how the player handled it, even though I'm sure it's challenging.
But like every NFL sideline, every team has at least
one and usually more than one, somewhat insecurity, whether it's
your director security, whether it's the system director security. They're
on your sidelines. And then there's NFL security that's on
(22:55):
the field during the game. So what the players don't
have to be just reminded of is if you do
you see a fan as acting like that, point them
out to either your director's security or the NFL security director.
Let them handle it. The last thing you can do,
because you'll never win, is go up to the fan
and start engaging with them. Football is an emotional game,
you dk metcalf is playing an emotional game, and right
(23:17):
in the middle of the game, can you imagine just
dealing with the fans. So that's why you have people
down there to help you that situation. I don't know
all the specifics behind it, but I just wish he
would have went to his club or the NFL that say, look,
just take care of that fan right there, and then
you never had that situation happen.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Tom zelasco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, former
GM of the Chargers and Raiders. She's Mancy Belanios. I'm
Dan Beyer. I'm sure John Lynch is doing a little
peacocking considering how good that Brock Purty has been playing
as of late, second straight touchdown set, the second straight
game with five touchdowns. Have you seen a different Brock
party when he's obviously been healthy this season. Now that
(23:55):
the contract stuff is in the rearview mirror, you.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Know he's played like this at other times his career.
So it's not a surprise. It just seems like it's
happened with other players too, and it's just as unfortunate.
But it tends to happen. Is wherever you get drafted,
you just kind of get labeled from where that draft was,
and especially players that get drafted late, you know, rather
than letting your play dictate. Once your career starts and
start playing, well, you know what that kind of dictate
(24:23):
you know what the narrative is around you. And I
think people just have this perception that always that he's
a seventh rong draft pick and he shouldn't be good,
but he is outstanding. And I know, going back, I
guess there's be a couple of years ago when I
was with the with the Raiders, we sat down with
their scouts and just we did a deep dive on
Rock Purty. Not not that we're going to try and
acquire him at the time he was with San Francisco,
(24:44):
but more like, hey, look we were in the draft
and looking at quarterbacks. They're not all going to be
justin Herbert or Andrew luck where they're a big, strong,
physical rocket arm. There's there's other factors that go into
play in the position to play at a high level.
And we watched a lot of Rock Purty and there
were throws all over the tape of just anticipation, ball placement, accuracy.
His arm strength is plenty good enough. You know, it's
(25:06):
not a rocket, but it's plenty good enough. And he's
a good athlete and he can move around, so all
those factors have been there. Last year, they had so
many injuries on the offense. I think it's hard for
him to really get going, and he had some injuries himself.
But what you're seeing last night is what he can
do and he's really not a standing player.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Is Todd Bowles in the hot seat?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Boy?
Speaker 9 (25:25):
I wouldn't think so. I just think, you know, people
are so quick to uh, I guess, to put people
in the hot seat. But no, he's an outstanding head
coach and he's proven that year after year, and he's
a really good defensive mind. So what's going on there
right now? I don't understand it, because there's they're just
not playing the way that they're capable and usually how
they play and sometimes thinks snowball and not every year
(25:48):
is going to be a great year. But I just
think he's a good coach. They have a really good
staff there. I don't I can't put my finger on
exactly what the issue is. I know that was a
tough loss, but they're still in it. But now I
don't see that at all. I think he's a really good,
really good head coach in this league.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Tom Dalaska joining us here on Fox Sports Radio kind
of along those lines, how would you evaluate Aaron Glenn
and the Jets, especially after yesterday's de moralizing loss to
the Patriots and his future with the team.
Speaker 9 (26:14):
Yeah, those are difficult because when you hire a head coach,
you have to be thinking more than one year. There's
a big transition that that goes on, and he's still
he's not you know, he's learning to be a head
coach on the run, which you know, which it happens
when your first time I coach. Obviously, some things you
have to learn on the run. But the last month
or so, it's just been they haven't been competitive, So
(26:35):
it's it's tough to sit through for a front offeras
or ownership. I know that, but you know, you put
a plan together. There's the reason why you hired him
as a head coach. Obviously, they made some changes in
personnel throughout the year that weakened them for the short term.
Hopefully he was strengthened him for the long term. But
but you know, they sent some pretty good players out
the door, and look, they weren't playing with the quarterback
yesterday and haven't played with the quarterbacks for a couple
(26:56):
of weeks and really for the year. So it's hard
to put, you know, a really competitive product on the
field when you send out some really good defensive players
and you haven't said a lot a quarterback yet. So
you have to stick with the plan as hard.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
As it is.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
You just can't wait for the season to be over
so you can start working on next year. And that's
what we're both get working on real soon. And they
have a lot of draft picks. I assume they should
have some cap space with the players they sent out
and we get moving next year. But they have to
show some market improvement next year.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Who is your coach of the year?
Speaker 9 (27:28):
You know, there's so many of this. Yeah, I know,
I'm I guess I'm part of the media now, but
I'm not really big on you know, ranking them. But
there's there's so many between Graybull and Cohen and Ben
Johnson and Mike McDonald, Kyle shanahanam you wanted last night?
With what they did and with with what they're dealing with.
I mean, all of these guys could be a coach
of the year. Sean Payton, I know that he could be,
(27:51):
like not only as a head, as a coach of
the year, but just team building, working with George Peyton,
what they've what they've done in Denver the last couple
of years, and honestly, even Dave Kanals in Carolina with
what they've done, I thought Carolina was still a couple
of years away from competing with their roster and they've
done the outstanding job. So I mean, I'd say there's
you know, six or seven you can make a case
for which is great in the NS League. But you know,
(28:15):
there's always that recency bias. And he watched San Francisco
last night. It's hard to say that Kylie Shanahan shouldn't
be it shouldn't be the coach of the year.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
See, we aren't always trying to fire head coaches. We're
also trying to lift them up right, and look at
you got the coach of the Year. Tom we appreciate
the time, Happy New Year, best of luck in twenty
twenty six, and can't wait to talk to you again.
Appreciate it sounds good.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
Happy New Year to both of you.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Thank you.
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with us, as is Jason Stewart and Chris Purfett. You
may have heard Isaac mention some news about USC and
(29:16):
Notre Dame and Lincoln Riley responding to why they aren't
going to continue their rivalry with the Fighting Hours. But
there was other news involving Notre Dame and that's Marcus
Freeman is going to be back with the Fighting Irish
tweeting today I see you in twenty twenty six. I'm paraphrasing,
but Diana Rassini was on with the Herd earlier today.
Now they were talking NFL, talking New York Giants, but
(29:39):
Marcus Freeman's name came up because Freeman is going to
be staying in South Bend. This was part of that conversation.
Speaker 12 (29:45):
The New York Giants were not the only team who
were interested in Marcus Freeman. There were at least four
other teams I know poking around on Marcus Freeman. And
when I say poking around, because some of those teams
have a coach currently in place right which makes sense
because there's only two available head coaching jobs right now
on the table, that being the New York Giants and
the Tennessee Titans, who you know, both organizations definitely had
(30:07):
plans of bringing Marcus Freeman in.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
So and that's what kind of stood out to me
is when she used the number four right away at
my ears, kind of you know, I figure out the four, yeah,
and who would be looking and who would be considering it. Also, Mancie,
I think that there's more to the Marcus Freeman situation.
And I know this this may change things, but the Giants.
Maybe Arnest committed to Jackson Dart as we thought, you
(30:32):
never know who's going to come in and be the
next head coach in that scenario. But I also think
that Marcus Freeman maybe looked at New York, the Giants situation,
and actually the Jets situation plays into it as well,
looked at the Tennessee situations that okay, that one's open,
and maybe he heard from through the behind the scenes
on what teams with coaches were looking. But it tells
(30:53):
me that he looked at Tennessee and he looked at
the Giants and said, I'm good, like I don't need
to be a part of that something that like is
it can't miss sort of deal. So you know what
that says to me, I'm wondering about the future of
cam Warden. I'm wondering about the future of Jackson Dart
in New York because Marcus Freeman says, I'd rather just
stay in college.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, but I don't blame Marcus Freeman at all.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
You kind of have unfinished business at Notre Dame and
you should go back. Maybe it's not even it's not
even just that Dan, right, it's beyond the situation that
you can see right now in the NFL with each team,
it's the incoming class of quarterbacks. Like what is who
is the selling point here? Is it location? Is it
a player or is it this? It doesn't sell like
(31:36):
anything is selling, might as well stick where you are,
which is I feel like refreshing to hear that Marcus
Freeman was like, no, I'm just gonna you know, there's nothing.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I haven't finished business over here, Like I'm gonna finish
this out.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
It's not like next year people aren't going to be
interested in Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's also refreshing to hear a restructured contract.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Sure, because that was the only that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It's not like he's you know what, We're good. We
don't have to change any of the numbers. But I'm
happy here. That could have been an option, but it wasn't.
I think it also just gives you the state of
the NFL. And the reason I bring the Jets into
this is because Jason thinks that Aaron Glenn should be gone.
I am admitting that there's a lot of evidence in
considering what happened yesterday and maybe why they do have
(32:21):
to make a change even after only one year, even
after Glenn was brought in to change the culture. But
that's the reason why, because I think that's what Marcus
Freeman does. Marcus Freeman comes into a place not as
the hot offensive coordinator, not coming in as the defense
that's a top five NFL defense or one that's going
to just give quarterbacks fits around the NFL. Marcus Freeman
(32:43):
is going to go in with a culture and that's
what Aaron Glenn tried to do. And it may not
even give him a full season. So if you're going
into the NFL and maybe that's one of the jobs
as well, that could have been a possibility for him.
He finds the situation maybe with whoever the ownership is
of those teams, saying if I'm coming in for culture
(33:04):
and I'm seeing what they're doing with some of these
other head coaches, maybe college is best for me. I
think that probably played a part of it as well.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Absolutely, we've sat here and discussed many different situations with
different coaches where it's not or players or individuals where
it's not always greener on the other side, and I
think that's what he saw. He's like, why what is
out there that is better than what I have here
where things are working for me. Obviously he's mad about
the situation that they didn't get into the College Football
play Off, but I just think he realizes, like, this
(33:30):
is where I need to be. I have unfinished business.
Let's talk in a couple of years about the NFL again.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, well, Notre Dame didn't go to a bowl game,
so he wasn't at a bull presser like Lincoln Riley
was to talk about the reason why the rivalry is
no longer. Jason Stewart, your thoughts on Marcus Freeman staying
at nd.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Did you guys also get the feeling just by the
word in here or maybe if you just read between
the lines, they're running it back next year. Everything seems
to be at you know, everything seems to be lining
up for next year with Notre Dame, and then we're
going to have the same conversational year from now. Safe
to say, I.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Think we're gonna have the same conversation until he actually
leaves or just gets a deal from Notre Dame that
makes him the highest paid head coach in college football,
or whatever the case may be. But I think that
that I think we are always going to hear his name.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, and I also think that he thinks like next
year they're are for sure into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Well they are because of that and any expansion.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Breck.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
You got what I'm saying, Like he's why, I'm like, no, not,
you're for sure and might as well try this one
more time.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah you do? You do lose. Jeremiah Love is gonna
be a top ten pick, maybe even the top five
pick depending on things shakeout. But Notre Dame gets to
keep Marcus Freeman. Not a huge shock. The road to
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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.