July 22, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug weighs in on a recent report that Lebron entertained playing with the Mavericks before deciding to pick up his player option with the Lakers. Doug welcomes columnist and Doomsday Podcast host Matt Mosley onto the show to discuss the latest with Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through The Press.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
I just thought of one. How about Moncey's meanderings?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
M hm hm, Moncy, what.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Am I doing here?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's It's a new segment of our show called Moncey's Meanderings.
Meander So think about that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
What is meanderinge entering.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Is like, have you ever been shopping and you have
no purpose and you go asle the isle of the island,
You're like, oh that looks good, Oh this looks good,
and just keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, I do that all the time, wandering.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay, all the time you have.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
If she's ever been shopping, that's like, is that it's
not even rhetorical question it all day?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, except except it would sound exceptionally chauvinus to go like, Manci,
you're a woman, you go shopping all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Right, ladies be shopping the I be shopping all day?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I do. I actually really enjoy grocery shopping. Uh, not
poorly kept secret that that's one of my favorite pastimes.
But I also right, so the idea, I'm actually a
little bit more focused, like I know what I want
and I have it, Like I have the whole strategy
of what I get when I get it, and I go,
i'll iis, I'll skip the aisle, I'll, i'll i'll you know.
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I do the same thing with with when I go
to a gas station. Obviously, my main vehicle at home
is electric, so I don't have to do that when
I don't like I actually, does anybody else do this
where I try and act like it's a pit stop
and see how fast I can fill up the tank?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yes, hmmm.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I always like if I have a rental car, like
one of my kids with me, like time me, Like
what time me? See how fast I can do this?
Like why is that important? Like I don't know, because
it is anyway, Mansi's meanderings and I'm just again just
flushing out here. We should do this off, you know,
outside of the show. But that's okay, It's better this way,
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is Jase, Dude, tell me what you're thinking. Like she
just goes to all of her different thoughts and they
can be movies, they can be music, they can be basketball,
foot ball, soccer, wrestling, anything you want. Yeah, we just
kind of put it all together. It's Monzi's meanderings.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's you know, meandering is basically just taking a winding
course to things so you just don't get right to
the point and you just It's basically what Iowa Sam
does on the air every day on Fox Corse Radio.
I get to the point eventually, but his name doesn't
start with an M, so it would be Manzy's me
hundreds by Sam.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
You're in Wisconsin, Doug. A lot of meandering creeks and
rivers and streams. That's kind of I think of the
word meandering. I think of like rivers meandering around Ben's
and yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think of meandering as when you're at a party
and you don't really know anybody at the party and
you just kind of walk around and do you do
the lap around the room, and you're like, you're trying
to not make eye contact with anybody because you get
pulled into a conversation you don't know who that person is,
and you want to go like, hey man, how are
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you dude? So you're just kind of meandering and weave ye,
get your beverage, sort of meander back, standoff, ash, Oh,
I know somebody. Now I'm going in and I'm having
a conversation.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, it's just you know, doing something in a rudderless way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Rudderless one was really good. I like that. So I
saw this story and I wanted to discuss with you guys.
Lebron James picked up his player option to remain with
the Lakers, but it represents a calculated decision that did
not come without considering a move elsewhere, according to John
Hollinger of The Athletic. In fact, there were whispers in
the league circles about Lebron James having an eye for
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Dallas reports, but the four time NBA champion was not
willing to pass on a fifty two point six million
dollar contract with the Lakers for a non taxpayer mid
level exceptions sign in Dallas, James would have reunited with
Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis, also having an opportunity to
play alongside number one overall pick Cooper Flag. James express
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belief that Flag will be amazing with the Mavericks. So,
uh yeah, let's let's dive in here. I call bull crap, right,
I mean, look, we do this in college basketball. It's like, oh,
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I could have had this guy, could have had that guy,
and not taking this guy. It was never an option
if you weren't if you were going to opt in. Ever, well,
Lebron James ever played for less than top down? Would
he ever play for less than ten million dollars or
fifteen million dollars? Jay su any chance?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
That's not that's not him.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay, Sam, any chance, no moncy, any chance you believe
Lebron James had ever played. Let's just say, I don't
even know what the mid level exception is at less
than fifteen million dollars. No, okay, so it's not an option.
It's not an option. Right. This is the guy going like, yeah,
I could have think it around, like she wouldn't have
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gone out with you? What are we even though its
whispers round league circles like, no, there weren't. And again,
I'm not telling you that John Hollinger is full of it.
I'm telling the people that are calling John Holling like
you know he thought about it. Here's the conversation of it. Rich,
Can I go play in Dallas? Like? Yeah, but you
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had to play for the mid level? A hell no.
Can we make it uncomfortable enough for the Lakers that
they have to trade us? We can try, right, we
can try. You know there was a player who again
I was just during one of the breaks, I got
a text from a guy who's helped me with a
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player who's from Belgium. I really liked him. I wanted
to have him, but they were asking for way too
much money. He ended up signing with another friend of mine,
and I think it would be really good there for
less than half the money that he was asking for me.
I can't sit here and go like, hey, he should
be on my team. I should have him. At the time,
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he was working with a different agency and they were
asking for like two three x of what we wanted
to pay him. So it's not really an option. It
doesn't mean I don't think it's true that he'd prefer
to play. He thinks that Kyrie and Anthony Davis that's
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much more his jam, right, But it also proves what
I've said time and again, which is like, here's a
dude who they hired a coach, and do I think
JJ is bringing a coach? I do. But do we
think for one second JJ would have gotten the Lakers
job had he not been doing a podcast with Lebron James, No,
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we don't. So you hired somebody that he respects, that
he works with, that he likes. That's kind of a contemporary.
As the head coach, you draft his son, you've done
everything in your power to make him and his people
feel comfortable, and then you make a trade where everybody
and I feel like I'm the only voice for reason,
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Like I don't think it was as pronounced a slam
dunk dominant trade for the Lakers, as as the world
would leged you to believe. But ninety nine percent of
the people think the Lakers won that trade. Maybe even
one hundred think the Lakers won the trade. It's a
question of how much did they Did they win it
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by a point or do they win it by twenty five?
And yet Lebron James is like, yeah, I mean, he
wants it out there. He'd rather play for the Mavericks
than play for the Lakers. That's what he's saying. He's saying,
if all things were equal, he would rather play for
the Mavericks. They're not equal, so he doesn't really want
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He's not willing to sacrifice to play for the Mavericks,
but he wants. He'd rather play for them Averacks, then
play for the then play for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yet again, it seems like every single story that comes
out of the Rich Paul camp is we don't care
about your the Laker fans. I mean no, this is no.
The only reason I'm playing in front of you fans
is for the money. I would much rather be somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, yep. And as we've said on this show, which
is that they should have they should have jettison Lebron
James a couple of years ago. They didn't because one,
there was a value. They felt like there was value
in having him break the all time scoring mark in
their uniform. But two, they were just all in on Lebron. Hey,
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this is where he's gonna end his career. We're gonna
have his son here. Do whatever it takes to get
the most out of Lebron, and the repayment is, Hey,
I Luca gets the ball more than me, he gets
to make decisions. I'd prefer to go do it somewhere else.
No thought of every Laker fan buying a Lebron jersey,
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swallowing their pride as Kobe guys to buy Lebron jersey,
doesn't care, doesn't care, literally only staying in LA because
he has to because that's where he makes the most money.
So I also think this is one of those stories
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that is the It's kind of classic Rich Paul trying
to create this. He'd rather be somewhere else. Is there
a way in which we can get him traded? That's
a great question. I don't know the answer to that one.
I don't think the answer is yes, but it wouldn't
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be crazy this late in his career. Remember, he played
Jason Kidd was the assistant coach when they won a championship.
Anthony Davis is also wrapped by Lebron, by Rich Paul,
and though he and Kyrie had a falling out, they
fell back in and there was talk of Kyrie coming
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to LA before he ultimately went to Dallas. But I
love this post mortem story of a contract that was
agreed to two months ago. Hey, if it wasn't for
forty five million dollars or forty million dollars in difference
for a guy who's worth a billion dollars, he totally
would have come play for the Dallas Mavericks. I actually
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think it looks bad on a multiple on a bunch
of fronts. It looks bad towards his relationship with the Lakers,
towards his amount of respect for Laker fans and accepting him,
And it even looks bad upon Lebron. Don't tell me
you want to play for somebody. Don't tell me you
want to play for championships, and then you're not willing
to sacrifice forty million dollars when you're worth thirty forty
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x that that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
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Speaker 1 (12:18):
Doug Gotlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Obviously you're playing some
Ozzie because Ozzy Osbourne passed away today at the age
of seventy six years old. It's good run, it's good run,
you know, Jay Stu, what's your what's what do you
think is the over runner on what's a good run
(12:38):
for you? Or can he not? Because right now it's
still you know, like, by the way, congrats to Jacob
your son got was that last week he engaged?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Was he engagement?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Right? So now you're like, all right, well, I mean
I've done a lot, but I haven't been a grandpa yet.
That sounds super dope, right, I'm sure there's lots of
there's lots of tall bridges that you want to jump
off in bungee jump, right, So what's the number that
you're like, Yeah, if I may get to that, it's
a go.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I'm good that's a good question. I haven't really thought
about that, but it would be probably best. The frugal
part of me says, if I can go before the
bill for the wedding.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Comes, Oh that is that's an amazing one, right there.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So experience the wedding, enjoy the wedding. But then when
the bill comes, you're gone.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, like like literally they're coming out to give the bill,
although a lot of times the bride's parents pay for it. Right,
you pay for the honeymoon, maybe just a little credit
you can run on your credit card, credit card debt,
and then you go and then crazy hot girlfriend has
to take care of it. But if she's still your girlfriend,
I don't know if she has to take care of
it because you'd be common law. But would she accept
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your bills? There's a lot to that.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'll just have everyone could work it out and probate.
It's not my problem. That's not my problem.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You're nuts.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's not your problem because you're dead.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, it is not my problem.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Very little to worry about, is that my problem?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Jason brought this to my attention. It's really good. So
Cam Newton doesn't think Jalen Hurts is the top ten quarterback,
and you're like, it does feel a little Spider Man
me me right, guy who's not a crazy accurate thrower,
unbelievable runner. Uh, you know he's a leader, but some
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outside of the building, we don't know how good a
leader he is. Like Cam had a lot going on there.
He remember he wanted to be an icon. Jalen Hurts.
Its kind of a different way about him. He always
appears to be so thoughtful. It's like almost it almost
seems artificial of some of the way. But whatever, here's
Cam Newton talking about why he doesn't think Jalen Hurts
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is a top ten quarterback.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Now, I know everybody's gonna get mad at this.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Cam Haten on Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
It's hard for me to grade Jalen Hurts with the
talent that he has around him. Jalen Hurts is a
great quarterback, but if we're talking about what they bring
to the table holistically, it's hard to judge what Jalen
Hurts can do. When you're throwing to a guy like
aj Brown Davonte Smith. We have tight end skill set,
you have a dominant defense, the best running back in
the game. Download Madden and see how many stars is
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on the offensive side of Philly like you got King, Henry,
Jay Flowers, Mark Andrews, and Isaiah Likely those guys. That's cool,
But when you're comparing to compare Lamar Jackson, Steel shows
you why he's an elite player. Josh Allen has to
play elite in order for them to play. Lamar Jackson
has to play at a high level for the Baltimore
Ravens even though that they have a dominant defense.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Patrick Mahomes, he got a lot of talent.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
But boy, oh boy, you can't put no John Doe
and Patrick Mahomes and think that they still gonna win
the way they win it. I understand that Jalen Hurts
does not have to play elite for the Philadelphia Eagles
to win. He has to play good, but he doesn't
have to play elite. We're not asking you to win
the game. We're just asking you not to lose a
goin you asked that question, are we winning because of you?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Solely because of you?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Or is it the resources around you?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
So game changer, game manager, those are the things that
you have to ask yourself, and those are the metrics
that I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Going off of.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
It's like, Bro, even when the just push, you got
five people pushing you. Bro, you got a solid group
around you. Dog and man. The man who Jalen Hurts
is Bro. I respect him. I take my hat off
to him. But just because he's a great guy, that
don't mean I can't critique his game.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think there's a lot of things that are super
fair about his critique of Jalen Hurts. I wouldn't reference Madden,
you know, that wouldn't be my thing with like, hey,
you look at the Madden rankings and they're great, Like, yeah,
that's you lost me for a second there. You lost
me for a second there. But I do understand the
point is that he plays on the most loaded roster.
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It's really hard to determine how good he is because
he doesn't have to play great in order for them
to win. I actually think he does. I think he
has to play well for them to win. And I
also think that without intending to do so, he sort
of levels off some of the praise given towards Lamar
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Jackson because Lamar Jackson hasn't won anything, and he does
have to play well in order for them to win anything.
So there's some critique there without attempting to. But I
find it fascinating that he says these things about Jalen Hurtswin,
the way he plays who he was surrounded by. Steve
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Smith was elite. They had elite running backs, great offensive line,
unbelievable defense, Cam Newton calling his own credentials in the question,
HM Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Yeah, I got
a bunch of things here to get to with. Matt
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Mosley joins us in Doomsday Podcast. Matt helped me out
Jerry Jones when he was asked about if he'd ever
let somebody else be the gentle manager, He goes into
a winding thing and then says, well, maybe I've thought
about it for a little bit. Do you think that
would ever happen?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Doug, I think that his next joke was the one
that was probably he was telling the truth, which is
maybe it was just a fraction of a second he
thought about it. I think occasionally and he thinks it
appeases the fans, it actually makes them even angrier. He'll
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sort of act like I've thought about this over the
years or something. But the truth of the matter is,
while he certainly has had some very down moments to me,
he was doing a bit and doing kind of a thing.
It is kind of odd and rare for him to
at least, you know, think about how much time he
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spends talking about why he does it this way, how
he he paid the money so he gets to do this,
and so that's really how he feels. But he thought
in that moment that he would kind of like say, yeah,
I've actually had a few moments where I thought about
giving the GM up. That's totally that's like Landman stuff.
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That's like the actor in Jerry, a man who while
he was from state of Arkansas, he actually was born
out in Los Angeles, and he kind of has some
acting chops. And so yet, no, don't I wouldn't believe
him for a second any thought of him saying he's
ever really given serious thought to giving up his GM duties.
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It's never in fact that he was for him to
even there's no way he was being genuine that was
even a momentary time that there's there's nothing genuine about
that comment.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, so let me let me ask you, let me
try and figure this thing out. How come there's it
feels like the Micah Parsons Steel isn't done because Dak
Prescott got hurt after signing a new deal. That's what
feels like. And he right and based upon what he said,
but they're different players in different states in their career.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, he he likes to say these things and in
some ways he you know, it's kind of like on
one hand he said, and again, if you give him
enough time, he's going to contradict himself. He did take
the time to compliment mikeh as you heard in Sandy's
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or the savviest business from a player standpoint when it
comes to contract with the savviest guys he's ever been around.
And I do think Mike is pretty savvy because, like,
I don't know, this is interesting. This is a different
kind of lockout. You've got one guy in Cincinnati who's
been very public about how this is going, and he's
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in a different state. And if you look at the
footage today, which is actually accurate. I know some people
got fooled by some fake coverage, but he was actually
out there in his uniform, in his helmet. I mean,
this is not a true So Jerry's in an interesting
spot here because he's got a player who's kind of
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trying to let Jerry have the leverage, but Jerry truly
doesn't have any leverage. This player is reporting to camp
and in a time when he's he's he's you know,
I think his agent wants him to hold out, and
so the whole thing's a little awkward. So I don't
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he won't sign a contract until it kind of like CD,
it'll be it'll be, uh, it'll be you know, a
week or so before the season, and he'll sign it.
But unlike c D, unlike Zeke, this guy doesn't have
the stomach to hold out. So you know, this is
the awkward no contract, But he's going to show up
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at camp anyway, and that's where this thing stands.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Stull gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. How good
are they? Assuming an amazing play anyway, but how good
are they?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Well, they're They're way more explosive, I think in the
passing game, and I think they have a chance to
honestly take a step up and the run game, because
their old line could end up there's a lot of
there's some question marks, but could be a lot better.
But the truth is, with as good as the Eagles
and Commanders appear to be, they could really be much
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much better and only win like ten games. Like ten
games seems like the ceiling on this thing. So I don't,
you know, I just I don't you know. For many
many years, as you remember, they were able to feast
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on a bad division, and you know, you say, what
about the Eagles. They won a Super Bowl and then
they won another Super Bowl, but in between those were
some down seasons and during all that time, the Commanders
were not good, and the Giants have been bad for years,
so they could count on at least four to five
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wins every year from that division, and that's no longer
the case. So you might find three wins in that
division and then you got to go hunting for wins elsewhere.
So you got to have a really good, good rest
of the season and find seven more wins, and that's
it's extremely hard to find. So again, it's very rare
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when you have this this deep of a division. It's
been I mean, think about how long it's been since
the Commanders were good. They got good last season. Before that,
they'd gone seemingly two decades without being good.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, but you go back a couple years, was it
two years ago? Giants were in the playoffs or two
years giants from the playoffs joke.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
You know, they backdoored their way in because everybody else
was horrible, and I think they won nine games or something.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, okay, but I mean again, like three teams in
the playoffs is still a deep division, right, which is
still potentially you have here?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think they could make the playoffs. Yeah,
but I'm just saying that I don't really see a
scenario like, there's not I heard you talking about herds.
I mean, there's just not. There's not a lot of
holes in Quinn seems to have done it, you know,
extremely good job there. I mean, I just don't I
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don't think the Cowboys are deep enough on either side
of the ball to really compete with those two teams.
That doesn't mean they can't steal one at home. Yeah,
but but I don't, you know, I don't. I mean,
the best they could possibly hope for, I could see
them splitting with the Commanders right now. I don't feel
like I still don't feel like they're anywhere close to
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the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Matt Mosley John is here on the Doug Ottleib Show
on Fox Port. Trader has the Doomsday Podcast, but before
I let you go, I did, I did want to
talk a little college football only from this standpoint? How
does July feel to you? And I say it because
you know you follow Baylor the whole Big Twelve? Obviously,
now SEC is invaded Texas, like considering the stakes are
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higher with all these kids getting paid, but there's there's
fewer and fewer players that remain at one school. So
you don't like, how many quarterbacks can you name in
the Big twelve? Starting quarterbacks?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Oh, if you gave me a moment, I could get
you play eight of them right right away. You could
get to keep Yeah, but I mean this is what
I live. I don't Yeah, yeah, but I mean, you
know this is my Sawyer Robinson from Baylor, Avery Johnson
from k State. I mean, has any from your alma
mater form Ocloma State. Yeah, I mean I could do.
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I might even get you ten, but that's just me.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I mean, I'm kind of a You're kind of a
kind of a stud that way, But that's that's maybe
eight again. Also, some of it is you're guessing because
some of these teams still don't know who their quarterback
is going to because they haven't actually put pads on
with their new players. Yeah, I guess again, question is
maybe it is the same to you? Does it feel this?
How does it feel to you in prepping for a
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college football season?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Oh yeah, I mean okay. I And by the way,
the Big twelve is a little interesting because they actually
do have some They had some great quarterbacks for returning
that Sam Levit's great Arizona State. And of course the
rets laugh thing is a weird story at BYU, and
he's ended up in Tulane for interesting, you know, for
a lot of for some reasons that we won't get into.
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It does feel weird in the sense here's what's weird
to me. And I think you would understand this obviously
watching well, you understand most anything I say. But the
Oklahoma situation, for instance, think about how crazy they are
about their football and this Jackson Arnold just flatlined and
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was awful there, lost his job bad. This guy Venables
may have more one more year. And yet what's so
weird about college football now is he shows up in
Auburn and somehow we convince like everybody, even at SEC
media days, even people that should know better, are like,
I think he might be one of the best quarterbacks
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in the SEC. It's like, wait, wait, well we just
saw this guy. This guy was playing last year at
OU and he lost his job to a freshman who's
not any good and and and you know, so yeah,
from year to year it is. It's very very strange.
And I will tell you that Sawyer Robertson at Baylor.
(28:22):
And you know, of course this sounds like a huge
bias thing, and you'll accuse me of that, and that's
probably appropriate. But if but your friend Bruce Feldman was
just all with me the other day echoing this thought,
if Baylor takes a step forward and wins nine or
ten games, this guy will be in the Heisman race.
Like so anyway, I just thought I would give you
off of that nugget.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
That was that was that was a hell of a
setup for a for a captain. Obvious nugget. That's that's
what it was.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
That it was not that obvious, not that many you're
just telling you're telling me, I couldn't people can't name
the quarterback the big quote. I don't think America knows
all your Robertson yet.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
They don't, they don't. But if Baylor goes and starts
winning nine or ten games and their quarterbacks is going
to get a lot of acclaim and he'll be in
the discussion.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Well, generally that wouldn't have been true with Baylor, but
I think at this time it might. And we do
have a Heisman Trophy winner in our past now that
is now a broadcaster, but it continues, sir.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
That's it. I think I'm good. I love our TX
most he's Matt Mosley. It's the Doomsday podcast care of
Fox Sports. Most are the best thanks to spare our guests.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Okay, I think I'm good too.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
By He's he's got that playfully awkward thing going. That's
that's very, very very funny. I The point is a
pretty solid one, though, right, I mean again, part of
it is maybe it's being on this side of it.
Maybe it's all the transfers. Maybe it's that. And I
(30:03):
don't know how Jay you were and ever this guy, Sam?
Were you ever the guy that would buy like you
go on a flight in the summer, you buy the
Athlons preview? Absolutely for the Big ten? You know? Or
what was what was the guy's name?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
There was Athon, Lindy Street and Smith Sporting News.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, but there's the one guy.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Oh Phil Steel, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Phil steels like Phil Steele's like the Bible.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Last year, I couldn't I couldn't even finish it. It
was just it was so thorough and immersive.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's thorough and immersive, but also is like it it's
a lot of guessing. You know, I did the I
think athlons called me, and you know, they don't know.
It's impossible for them to know, especially of college basketball.
You know we have foreign players. You're like, everybody looks
(30:50):
good in these highlight tapes. I could show you the
worst player in uh in our league, and you put
together highlight tape like that guy is awesome? Why didn't
you sign him? It's very, very difficult. Uh, I don't know.
It just feels different when you can't pick up an
Athon's and know who the quarterback is of school because
(31:11):
he was there as freshman. There's a sophomore now senior year.
Or you've seen guys matriculate and they just haven't. So
nobody knows how good anybody is because they don't know
how good they are.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
And Phil Steele, I believe, does a digital copy of
his publication now to keep things super updated. Yeah, yeah,
because yeah, it's just it's a it's a revolving door
of players.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's this is not unfair. This is completely fair to say.
If you don't know Phil Steele's college football preview, then
you're not really college football fan.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Right, Yeah, he's still relevant. I mean some of those
other publications I know I mentioned a minute ago.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I don't even know if right, whether or not it's
whether or not it's super relevant or needed now, because
you can get everything in your fingertips. But over the
last twenty years, like if you have never picked up
a Phil Steeles, then like you're not really fall fan.
Come up. On The Doug Gottlieb Show, Tyrese Haliburton tries
to explain the rash of Achilles injuries. What's behind him?
You hear from from Holly Next.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
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E Radio network five Central on Fox affiliates throughout Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas,
and oh Glahoma. Let's get to the press, the press.
(33:03):
What do you have there, coach?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I got a lot of good stuff here for you.
We're gonna start with Tyree Saliver and he was on
the Pat McAfee show today and had a lot of
things to say about his injury, including that Kevin Durant
has visited him and that he and Jason Tatum are
bonding over it. But he also mentioned what he thinks
is behind all of these Achilles injuries.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
There's like a notion when guys get injured, or when
this has happened so many times, that everybody thinks that
they have the answer as to why this is happening.
Everybody thinks we play too many games, play too many minutes.
All those things could be true, but I don't think
that that is what is causing these injuries. Last season,
if I'm not mistaken, I don't think there was a
single achilles tear last season, and it was the same
(33:49):
amount of minutes, same amount of games, right, Guys didn't
suddenly get larger in the course of a year. So
I don't think that anybody has necessarily the answer. I
think injuries are just bad luck times and that's just
what happened. But I think that that's just what happens
in sports sometimes, you know, I think there's no way
to really control it. But everybody has the answer.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
It seems like bad luck.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, that's a terrible explanation. You don't agree.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You think there's something with the minutes, the numbers, the training.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I don't think it has anything to do with the
minutes zero they play the same number of games guys
have been that they've always played, and guys play in
less of those games.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
M h.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I just it just doesn't And we've seen it, and
it's not just a basketball thing. We've seen it in football.
Way more people were tearing their achilles in football, we've
seen baseball. I think it's it's a coupleful. I think
I think it's it's a way and people are training,
and then more of a guess would be also in
(34:57):
it relates to it is in you know, sport, so
much of the training is sports specific, which once you
start specializing and you're doing sports specific, you're not building
the whole body. Yeah, but I think a lot of
it is just guys are bigger and stronger, but they're
also not trained and their muscles aren't working together with
the tenons and ligaments.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, I think Halliburn is just trying to say for me,
he feels he wants to believe it's bad luck. But
I hear you. All right, let's move on here.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Well, it's also he's not huge and muscular whatever. But
I mean same thing with Kevin Durant, not a huge
muscular guy. I get it. But again, the guess is
that in so much of the training that guys are doing,
and they're doing advanced stuff, but there has to be
something that's coming up short in terms of that specific
(35:45):
part of the body.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Right, all right, let's move on here. If you are
gonna sit in on a press conference with Mike Rabel,
you better pay attention, coach. This is what he had
to say today to a reporter who was not paying attention.
Speaker 9 (36:00):
I mean, whether you were in a coma when I
answered Tom's question, or typing on your phone or tweeting
I don't know. But I spent five minutes answering that question,
and I can go back through it, but.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
I'd rather not.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Ah, so good, pay attention, not asking that much, huh,
not asking much.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Just pay attention.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Just pay attention, all right, coach, moving on?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Sometimes you have to realize that the people you're talking
to in the media aren't They don't know what you're
talking about.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Right, so, right, all right. So Texas coach Steve Sarkisian
spoke to the Texas High School Coaches Association and he
implored high school coaches to not back down as things
continued to change. Part of his quote said, the game
is changing, not the game on the field, the game
off the field, nil, revenue sharing, publicity rights, whatever you
(36:56):
want to call it. Agents have gotten involved. Trainers have
been more involved, and I'm imploring upon you to not
throw your hands in the air and just say, hey,
it's out of our control. We can't do that. Agents
are new to us. I've got to deal with agents.
That's real. You as a coach, now, how do you
feel about his message to high school coaches and deal
(37:19):
with agents and just the change and for them to
not lose sight of you know, I think he's trying
to say, like, don't don't just sit back and let
things happen. Still be involved.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, I mean I can I echo it. I mean,
I think a lot of we make this out to
be the big bed wolf and stuff, but most of
the agents are pretty good dudes. There's always the occasional
Looney tunesky and not all the kids have agents. You
just got to find the right player for your program
and hopefully they embrace what you're doing. And that is
the press. That's right, they get out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
I just thought of one. How about Moncey's meanderings?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
M hm hm, Moncy, what.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Am I doing here?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's It's a new segment of our show called Moncey's Meanderings.
Meander So think about that.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
What is meanderinge entering.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Is like, have you ever been shopping and you have
no purpose and you go asle the isle of the island,
You're like, oh that looks good, Oh this looks good,
and just keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, I do that all the time, wandering.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Okay, all the time you have.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
If she's ever been shopping, that's like, is that it's
not even rhetorical question it all day?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, except except it would sound exceptionally chauvinus to go like, Manci,
you're a woman, you go shopping all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Right, ladies be shopping the I be shopping all day?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I do. I actually really enjoy grocery shopping. Uh, not
poorly kept secret that that's one of my favorite pastimes.
But I also right, so the idea, I'm actually a
little bit more focused, like I know what I want
and I have it, Like I have the whole strategy
of what I get when I get it, and I go,
i'll iis, I'll skip the aisle, I'll, i'll i'll you know.
(02:15):
I do the same thing with with when I go
to a gas station. Obviously, my main vehicle at home
is electric, so I don't have to do that when
I don't like I actually, does anybody else do this
where I try and act like it's a pit stop
and see how fast I can fill up the tank?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yes, hmmm.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I always like if I have a rental car, like
one of my kids with me, like time me, Like
what time me? See how fast I can do this?
Like why is that important? Like I don't know, because
it is anyway, Mansi's meanderings and I'm just again just
flushing out here. We should do this off, you know,
outside of the show. But that's okay, It's better this way,
(02:52):
is Jase, Dude, tell me what you're thinking. Like she
just goes to all of her different thoughts and they
can be movies, they can be music, they can be basketball,
foot ball, soccer, wrestling, anything you want. Yeah, we just
kind of put it all together. It's Monzi's meanderings.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's you know, meandering is basically just taking a winding
course to things so you just don't get right to
the point and you just It's basically what Iowa Sam
does on the air every day on Fox Corse Radio.
I get to the point eventually, but his name doesn't
start with an M, so it would be Manzy's me
hundreds by Sam.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
You're in Wisconsin, Doug. A lot of meandering creeks and
rivers and streams. That's kind of I think of the
word meandering. I think of like rivers meandering around Ben's
and yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think of meandering as when you're at a party
and you don't really know anybody at the party and
you just kind of walk around and do you do
the lap around the room, and you're like, you're trying
to not make eye contact with anybody because you get
pulled into a conversation you don't know who that person is,
and you want to go like, hey man, how are
(03:55):
you dude? So you're just kind of meandering and weave ye,
get your beverage, sort of meander back, standoff, ash, Oh,
I know somebody. Now I'm going in and I'm having
a conversation.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, it's just you know, doing something in a rudderless way,
you know.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Rudderless one was really good. I like that. So I
saw this story and I wanted to discuss with you guys.
Lebron James picked up his player option to remain with
the Lakers, but it represents a calculated decision that did
not come without considering a move elsewhere, according to John
Hollinger of The Athletic. In fact, there were whispers in
the league circles about Lebron James having an eye for
(04:35):
Dallas reports, but the four time NBA champion was not
willing to pass on a fifty two point six million
dollar contract with the Lakers for a non taxpayer mid
level exceptions sign in Dallas, James would have reunited with
Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis, also having an opportunity to
play alongside number one overall pick Cooper Flag. James express
(04:56):
belief that Flag will be amazing with the Mavericks. So,
uh yeah, let's let's dive in here. I call bull crap, right,
I mean, look, we do this in college basketball. It's like, oh,
(05:17):
I could have had this guy, could have had that guy,
and not taking this guy. It was never an option
if you weren't if you were going to opt in. Ever, well,
Lebron James ever played for less than top down? Would
he ever play for less than ten million dollars or
fifteen million dollars? Jay su any chance?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
That's not that's not him.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay, Sam, any chance, no moncy, any chance you believe
Lebron James had ever played. Let's just say, I don't
even know what the mid level exception is at less
than fifteen million dollars. No, okay, so it's not an option.
It's not an option. Right. This is the guy going like, yeah,
I could have think it around, like she wouldn't have
(06:00):
gone out with you? What are we even though its
whispers round league circles like, no, there weren't. And again,
I'm not telling you that John Hollinger is full of it.
I'm telling the people that are calling John Holling like
you know he thought about it. Here's the conversation of it. Rich,
Can I go play in Dallas? Like? Yeah, but you
(06:22):
had to play for the mid level? A hell no.
Can we make it uncomfortable enough for the Lakers that
they have to trade us? We can try, right, we
can try. You know there was a player who again
I was just during one of the breaks, I got
a text from a guy who's helped me with a
(06:43):
player who's from Belgium. I really liked him. I wanted
to have him, but they were asking for way too
much money. He ended up signing with another friend of mine,
and I think it would be really good there for
less than half the money that he was asking for me.
I can't sit here and go like, hey, he should
be on my team. I should have him. At the time,
(07:06):
he was working with a different agency and they were
asking for like two three x of what we wanted
to pay him. So it's not really an option. It
doesn't mean I don't think it's true that he'd prefer
to play. He thinks that Kyrie and Anthony Davis that's
(07:28):
much more his jam, right, But it also proves what
I've said time and again, which is like, here's a
dude who they hired a coach, and do I think
JJ is bringing a coach? I do. But do we
think for one second JJ would have gotten the Lakers
job had he not been doing a podcast with Lebron James, No,
(07:53):
we don't. So you hired somebody that he respects, that
he works with, that he likes. That's kind of a contemporary.
As the head coach, you draft his son, you've done
everything in your power to make him and his people
feel comfortable, and then you make a trade where everybody
and I feel like I'm the only voice for reason,
(08:14):
Like I don't think it was as pronounced a slam
dunk dominant trade for the Lakers, as as the world
would leged you to believe. But ninety nine percent of
the people think the Lakers won that trade. Maybe even
one hundred think the Lakers won the trade. It's a
question of how much did they Did they win it
(08:35):
by a point or do they win it by twenty five?
And yet Lebron James is like, yeah, I mean, he
wants it out there. He'd rather play for the Mavericks
than play for the Lakers. That's what he's saying. He's saying,
if all things were equal, he would rather play for
the Mavericks. They're not equal, so he doesn't really want
(08:56):
He's not willing to sacrifice to play for the Mavericks,
but he wants. He'd rather play for them Averacks, then
play for the then play for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yet again, it seems like every single story that comes
out of the Rich Paul camp is we don't care
about your the Laker fans. I mean no, this is no.
The only reason I'm playing in front of you fans
is for the money. I would much rather be somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, yep. And as we've said on this show, which
is that they should have they should have jettison Lebron
James a couple of years ago. They didn't because one,
there was a value. They felt like there was value
in having him break the all time scoring mark in
their uniform. But two, they were just all in on Lebron. Hey,
(09:43):
this is where he's gonna end his career. We're gonna
have his son here. Do whatever it takes to get
the most out of Lebron, and the repayment is, Hey,
I Luca gets the ball more than me, he gets
to make decisions. I'd prefer to go do it somewhere else.
No thought of every Laker fan buying a Lebron jersey,
(10:05):
swallowing their pride as Kobe guys to buy Lebron jersey,
doesn't care, doesn't care, literally only staying in LA because
he has to because that's where he makes the most money.
So I also think this is one of those stories
(10:27):
that is the It's kind of classic Rich Paul trying
to create this. He'd rather be somewhere else. Is there
a way in which we can get him traded? That's
a great question. I don't know the answer to that one.
I don't think the answer is yes, but it wouldn't
(10:50):
be crazy this late in his career. Remember, he played
Jason Kidd was the assistant coach when they won a championship.
Anthony Davis is also wrapped by Lebron, by Rich Paul,
and though he and Kyrie had a falling out, they
fell back in and there was talk of Kyrie coming
(11:12):
to LA before he ultimately went to Dallas. But I
love this post mortem story of a contract that was
agreed to two months ago. Hey, if it wasn't for
forty five million dollars or forty million dollars in difference
for a guy who's worth a billion dollars, he totally
would have come play for the Dallas Mavericks. I actually
(11:36):
think it looks bad on a multiple on a bunch
of fronts. It looks bad towards his relationship with the Lakers,
towards his amount of respect for Laker fans and accepting him,
And it even looks bad upon Lebron. Don't tell me
you want to play for somebody. Don't tell me you
want to play for championships, and then you're not willing
to sacrifice forty million dollars when you're worth thirty forty
(12:00):
x that that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
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Ozzie because Ozzy Osbourne passed away today at the age
of seventy six years old. It's good run, it's good run,
you know, Jay Stu, what's your what's what do you
think is the over runner on what's a good run
(12:38):
for you? Or can he not? Because right now it's
still you know, like, by the way, congrats to Jacob
your son got was that last week he engaged?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Was he engagement?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Right? So now you're like, all right, well, I mean
I've done a lot, but I haven't been a grandpa yet.
That sounds super dope, right, I'm sure there's lots of
there's lots of tall bridges that you want to jump
off in bungee jump, right, So what's the number that
you're like, Yeah, if I may get to that, it's
a go.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I'm good that's a good question. I haven't really thought
about that, but it would be probably best. The frugal
part of me says, if I can go before the
bill for the wedding.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Comes, Oh that is that's an amazing one, right there.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So experience the wedding, enjoy the wedding. But then when
the bill comes, you're gone.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, like like literally they're coming out to give the bill,
although a lot of times the bride's parents pay for it. Right,
you pay for the honeymoon, maybe just a little credit
you can run on your credit card, credit card debt,
and then you go and then crazy hot girlfriend has
to take care of it. But if she's still your girlfriend,
I don't know if she has to take care of
it because you'd be common law. But would she accept
(13:58):
your bills? There's a lot to that.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I'll just have everyone could work it out and probate.
It's not my problem. That's not my problem.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You're nuts.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's not your problem because you're dead.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, it is not my problem.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Very little to worry about, is that my problem?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Jason brought this to my attention. It's really good. So
Cam Newton doesn't think Jalen Hurts is the top ten quarterback,
and you're like, it does feel a little Spider Man
me me right, guy who's not a crazy accurate thrower,
unbelievable runner. Uh, you know he's a leader, but some
(14:47):
outside of the building, we don't know how good a
leader he is. Like Cam had a lot going on there.
He remember he wanted to be an icon. Jalen Hurts.
Its kind of a different way about him. He always
appears to be so thoughtful. It's like almost it almost
seems artificial of some of the way. But whatever, here's
Cam Newton talking about why he doesn't think Jalen Hurts
(15:10):
is a top ten quarterback.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Now, I know everybody's gonna get mad at this.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Cam Haten on Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
It's hard for me to grade Jalen Hurts with the
talent that he has around him. Jalen Hurts is a
great quarterback, but if we're talking about what they bring
to the table holistically, it's hard to judge what Jalen
Hurts can do. When you're throwing to a guy like
aj Brown Davonte Smith. We have tight end skill set,
you have a dominant defense, the best running back in
the game. Download Madden and see how many stars is
(15:37):
on the offensive side of Philly like you got King, Henry,
Jay Flowers, Mark Andrews, and Isaiah Likely those guys. That's cool,
But when you're comparing to compare Lamar Jackson, Steel shows
you why he's an elite player. Josh Allen has to
play elite in order for them to play. Lamar Jackson
has to play at a high level for the Baltimore
Ravens even though that they have a dominant defense.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Patrick Mahomes, he got a lot of talent.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
But boy, oh boy, you can't put no John Doe
and Patrick Mahomes and think that they still gonna win
the way they win it. I understand that Jalen Hurts
does not have to play elite for the Philadelphia Eagles
to win. He has to play good, but he doesn't
have to play elite. We're not asking you to win
the game. We're just asking you not to lose a
goin you asked that question, are we winning because of you?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Solely because of you?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Or is it the resources around you?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
So game changer, game manager, those are the things that
you have to ask yourself, and those are the metrics
that I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Going off of.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
It's like, Bro, even when the just push, you got
five people pushing you. Bro, you got a solid group
around you. Dog and man. The man who Jalen Hurts
is Bro. I respect him. I take my hat off
to him. But just because he's a great guy, that
don't mean I can't critique his game.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think there's a lot of things that are super
fair about his critique of Jalen Hurts. I wouldn't reference Madden,
you know, that wouldn't be my thing with like, hey,
you look at the Madden rankings and they're great, Like, yeah,
that's you lost me for a second there. You lost
me for a second there. But I do understand the
point is that he plays on the most loaded roster.
(17:08):
It's really hard to determine how good he is because
he doesn't have to play great in order for them
to win. I actually think he does. I think he
has to play well for them to win. And I
also think that without intending to do so, he sort
of levels off some of the praise given towards Lamar
(17:29):
Jackson because Lamar Jackson hasn't won anything, and he does
have to play well in order for them to win anything.
So there's some critique there without attempting to. But I
find it fascinating that he says these things about Jalen Hurtswin,
the way he plays who he was surrounded by. Steve
(17:50):
Smith was elite. They had elite running backs, great offensive line,
unbelievable defense, Cam Newton calling his own credentials in the question,
HM Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Yeah, I got
a bunch of things here to get to with. Matt
(18:11):
Mosley joins us in Doomsday Podcast. Matt helped me out
Jerry Jones when he was asked about if he'd ever
let somebody else be the gentle manager, He goes into
a winding thing and then says, well, maybe I've thought
about it for a little bit. Do you think that
would ever happen?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Doug, I think that his next joke was the one
that was probably he was telling the truth, which is
maybe it was just a fraction of a second he
thought about it. I think occasionally and he thinks it
appeases the fans, it actually makes them even angrier. He'll
(18:54):
sort of act like I've thought about this over the
years or something. But the truth of the matter is,
while he certainly has had some very down moments to me,
he was doing a bit and doing kind of a thing.
It is kind of odd and rare for him to
at least, you know, think about how much time he
(19:15):
spends talking about why he does it this way, how
he he paid the money so he gets to do this,
and so that's really how he feels. But he thought
in that moment that he would kind of like say, yeah,
I've actually had a few moments where I thought about
giving the GM up. That's totally that's like Landman stuff.
(19:41):
That's like the actor in Jerry, a man who while
he was from state of Arkansas, he actually was born
out in Los Angeles, and he kind of has some
acting chops. And so yet, no, don't I wouldn't believe
him for a second any thought of him saying he's
ever really given serious thought to giving up his GM duties.
(20:03):
It's never in fact that he was for him to
even there's no way he was being genuine that was
even a momentary time that there's there's nothing genuine about
that comment.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, so let me let me ask you, let me
try and figure this thing out. How come there's it
feels like the Micah Parsons Steel isn't done because Dak
Prescott got hurt after signing a new deal. That's what
feels like. And he right and based upon what he said,
but they're different players in different states in their career.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yeah, he he likes to say these things and in
some ways he you know, it's kind of like on
one hand he said, and again, if you give him
enough time, he's going to contradict himself. He did take
the time to compliment mikeh as you heard in Sandy's
(21:04):
or the savviest business from a player standpoint when it
comes to contract with the savviest guys he's ever been around.
And I do think Mike is pretty savvy because, like,
I don't know, this is interesting. This is a different
kind of lockout. You've got one guy in Cincinnati who's
been very public about how this is going, and he's
(21:27):
in a different state. And if you look at the
footage today, which is actually accurate. I know some people
got fooled by some fake coverage, but he was actually
out there in his uniform, in his helmet. I mean,
this is not a true So Jerry's in an interesting
spot here because he's got a player who's kind of
(21:48):
trying to let Jerry have the leverage, but Jerry truly
doesn't have any leverage. This player is reporting to camp
and in a time when he's he's he's you know,
I think his agent wants him to hold out, and
so the whole thing's a little awkward. So I don't
(22:10):
he won't sign a contract until it kind of like CD,
it'll be it'll be, uh, it'll be you know, a
week or so before the season, and he'll sign it.
But unlike c D, unlike Zeke, this guy doesn't have
the stomach to hold out. So you know, this is
the awkward no contract, But he's going to show up
(22:30):
at camp anyway, and that's where this thing stands.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Stull gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. How good
are they? Assuming an amazing play anyway, but how good
are they?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Well, they're They're way more explosive, I think in the
passing game, and I think they have a chance to
honestly take a step up and the run game, because
their old line could end up there's a lot of
there's some question marks, but could be a lot better.
But the truth is, with as good as the Eagles
and Commanders appear to be, they could really be much
(23:07):
much better and only win like ten games. Like ten
games seems like the ceiling on this thing. So I don't,
you know, I just I don't you know. For many
many years, as you remember, they were able to feast
(23:27):
on a bad division, and you know, you say, what
about the Eagles. They won a Super Bowl and then
they won another Super Bowl, but in between those were
some down seasons and during all that time, the Commanders
were not good, and the Giants have been bad for years,
so they could count on at least four to five
(23:47):
wins every year from that division, and that's no longer
the case. So you might find three wins in that
division and then you got to go hunting for wins elsewhere.
So you got to have a really good, good rest
of the season and find seven more wins, and that's
it's extremely hard to find. So again, it's very rare
(24:09):
when you have this this deep of a division. It's
been I mean, think about how long it's been since
the Commanders were good. They got good last season. Before that,
they'd gone seemingly two decades without being good.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, but you go back a couple years, was it
two years ago? Giants were in the playoffs or two
years giants from the playoffs joke.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
You know, they backdoored their way in because everybody else
was horrible, and I think they won nine games or something.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, okay, but I mean again, like three teams in
the playoffs is still a deep division, right, which is
still potentially you have here?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think they could make the playoffs. Yeah,
but I'm just saying that I don't really see a
scenario like, there's not I heard you talking about herds.
I mean, there's just not. There's not a lot of
holes in Quinn seems to have done it, you know,
extremely good job there. I mean, I just don't I
(25:07):
don't think the Cowboys are deep enough on either side
of the ball to really compete with those two teams.
That doesn't mean they can't steal one at home. Yeah,
but but I don't, you know, I don't. I mean,
the best they could possibly hope for, I could see
them splitting with the Commanders right now. I don't feel
like I still don't feel like they're anywhere close to
(25:29):
the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Matt Mosley John is here on the Doug Ottleib Show
on Fox Port. Trader has the Doomsday Podcast, but before
I let you go, I did, I did want to
talk a little college football only from this standpoint? How
does July feel to you? And I say it because
you know you follow Baylor the whole Big Twelve? Obviously,
now SEC is invaded Texas, like considering the stakes are
(25:56):
higher with all these kids getting paid, but there's there's
fewer and fewer players that remain at one school. So
you don't like, how many quarterbacks can you name in
the Big twelve? Starting quarterbacks?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Oh, if you gave me a moment, I could get
you play eight of them right right away. You could
get to keep Yeah, but I mean this is what
I live. I don't Yeah, yeah, but I mean, you
know this is my Sawyer Robinson from Baylor, Avery Johnson
from k State. I mean, has any from your alma
mater form Ocloma State. Yeah, I mean I could do.
(26:32):
I might even get you ten, but that's just me.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I mean, I'm kind of a You're kind of a
kind of a stud that way, But that's that's maybe
eight again. Also, some of it is you're guessing because
some of these teams still don't know who their quarterback
is going to because they haven't actually put pads on
with their new players. Yeah, I guess again, question is
maybe it is the same to you? Does it feel this?
How does it feel to you in prepping for a
(26:55):
college football season?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Oh yeah, I mean okay. I And by the way,
the Big twelve is a little interesting because they actually
do have some They had some great quarterbacks for returning
that Sam Levit's great Arizona State. And of course the
rets laugh thing is a weird story at BYU, and
he's ended up in Tulane for interesting, you know, for
a lot of for some reasons that we won't get into.
(27:19):
It does feel weird in the sense here's what's weird
to me. And I think you would understand this obviously
watching well, you understand most anything I say. But the
Oklahoma situation, for instance, think about how crazy they are
about their football and this Jackson Arnold just flatlined and
(27:41):
was awful there, lost his job bad. This guy Venables
may have more one more year. And yet what's so
weird about college football now is he shows up in
Auburn and somehow we convince like everybody, even at SEC
media days, even people that should know better, are like,
I think he might be one of the best quarterbacks
(28:01):
in the SEC. It's like, wait, wait, well we just
saw this guy. This guy was playing last year at
OU and he lost his job to a freshman who's
not any good and and and you know, so yeah,
from year to year it is. It's very very strange.
And I will tell you that Sawyer Robertson at Baylor.
(28:22):
And you know, of course this sounds like a huge
bias thing, and you'll accuse me of that, and that's
probably appropriate. But if but your friend Bruce Feldman was
just all with me the other day echoing this thought,
if Baylor takes a step forward and wins nine or
ten games, this guy will be in the Heisman race.
Like so anyway, I just thought I would give you
off of that nugget.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
That was that was that was a hell of a
setup for a for a captain. Obvious nugget. That's that's
what it was.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
That it was not that obvious, not that many you're
just telling you're telling me, I couldn't people can't name
the quarterback the big quote. I don't think America knows
all your Robertson yet.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
They don't, they don't. But if Baylor goes and starts
winning nine or ten games and their quarterbacks is going
to get a lot of acclaim and he'll be in
the discussion.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Well, generally that wouldn't have been true with Baylor, but
I think at this time it might. And we do
have a Heisman Trophy winner in our past now that
is now a broadcaster, but it continues, sir.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
That's it. I think I'm good. I love our TX
most he's Matt Mosley. It's the Doomsday podcast care of
Fox Sports. Most are the best thanks to spare our guests.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Okay, I think I'm good too.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
By He's he's got that playfully awkward thing going. That's
that's very, very very funny. I The point is a
pretty solid one, though, right, I mean again, part of
it is maybe it's being on this side of it.
Maybe it's all the transfers. Maybe it's that. And I
(30:03):
don't know how Jay you were and ever this guy, Sam?
Were you ever the guy that would buy like you
go on a flight in the summer, you buy the
Athlons preview? Absolutely for the Big ten? You know? Or
what was what was the guy's name?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
There was Athon, Lindy Street and Smith Sporting News.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, but there's the one guy.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Oh Phil Steel, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Phil steels like Phil Steele's like the Bible.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Last year, I couldn't I couldn't even finish it. It
was just it was so thorough and immersive.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's thorough and immersive, but also is like it it's
a lot of guessing. You know, I did the I
think athlons called me, and you know, they don't know.
It's impossible for them to know, especially of college basketball.
You know we have foreign players. You're like, everybody looks
(30:50):
good in these highlight tapes. I could show you the
worst player in uh in our league, and you put
together highlight tape like that guy is awesome? Why didn't
you sign him? It's very, very difficult. Uh, I don't know.
It just feels different when you can't pick up an
Athon's and know who the quarterback is of school because
(31:11):
he was there as freshman. There's a sophomore now senior year.
Or you've seen guys matriculate and they just haven't. So
nobody knows how good anybody is because they don't know
how good they are.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
And Phil Steele, I believe, does a digital copy of
his publication now to keep things super updated. Yeah, yeah,
because yeah, it's just it's a it's a revolving door
of players.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's this is not unfair. This is completely fair to say.
If you don't know Phil Steele's college football preview, then
you're not really college football fan.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Right, Yeah, he's still relevant. I mean some of those
other publications I know I mentioned a minute ago.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I don't even know if right, whether or not it's
whether or not it's super relevant or needed now, because
you can get everything in your fingertips. But over the
last twenty years, like if you have never picked up
a Phil Steeles, then like you're not really fall fan.
Come up. On The Doug Gottlieb Show, Tyrese Haliburton tries
to explain the rash of Achilles injuries. What's behind him?
You hear from from Holly Next.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
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Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
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By the way, the Matt Moseley Show is on the
(32:42):
E Radio network five Central on Fox affiliates throughout Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas,
and oh Glahoma. Let's get to the press, the press.
(33:03):
What do you have there, coach?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I got a lot of good stuff here for you.
We're gonna start with Tyree Saliver and he was on
the Pat McAfee show today and had a lot of
things to say about his injury, including that Kevin Durant
has visited him and that he and Jason Tatum are
bonding over it. But he also mentioned what he thinks
is behind all of these Achilles injuries.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
There's like a notion when guys get injured, or when
this has happened so many times, that everybody thinks that
they have the answer as to why this is happening.
Everybody thinks we play too many games, play too many minutes.
All those things could be true, but I don't think
that that is what is causing these injuries. Last season,
if I'm not mistaken, I don't think there was a
single achilles tear last season, and it was the same
(33:49):
amount of minutes, same amount of games, right, Guys didn't
suddenly get larger in the course of a year. So
I don't think that anybody has necessarily the answer. I
think injuries are just bad luck times and that's just
what happened. But I think that that's just what happens
in sports sometimes, you know, I think there's no way
to really control it. But everybody has the answer.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
It seems like bad luck.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, that's a terrible explanation. You don't agree.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You think there's something with the minutes, the numbers, the training.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I don't think it has anything to do with the
minutes zero they play the same number of games guys
have been that they've always played, and guys play in
less of those games.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
M h.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I just it just doesn't And we've seen it, and
it's not just a basketball thing. We've seen it in football.
Way more people were tearing their achilles in football, we've
seen baseball. I think it's it's a coupleful. I think
I think it's it's a way and people are training,
and then more of a guess would be also in
(34:57):
it relates to it is in you know, sport, so
much of the training is sports specific, which once you
start specializing and you're doing sports specific, you're not building
the whole body. Yeah, but I think a lot of
it is just guys are bigger and stronger, but they're
also not trained and their muscles aren't working together with
the tenons and ligaments.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, I think Halliburn is just trying to say for me,
he feels he wants to believe it's bad luck. But
I hear you. All right, let's move on here.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Well, it's also he's not huge and muscular whatever. But
I mean same thing with Kevin Durant, not a huge
muscular guy. I get it. But again, the guess is
that in so much of the training that guys are doing,
and they're doing advanced stuff, but there has to be
something that's coming up short in terms of that specific
(35:45):
part of the body.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Right, all right, let's move on here. If you are
gonna sit in on a press conference with Mike Rabel,
you better pay attention, coach. This is what he had
to say today to a reporter who was not paying attention.
Speaker 9 (36:00):
I mean, whether you were in a coma when I
answered Tom's question, or typing on your phone or tweeting
I don't know. But I spent five minutes answering that question,
and I can go back through it, but.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
I'd rather not.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Ah, so good, pay attention, not asking that much, huh,
not asking much.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Just pay attention.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Just pay attention, all right, coach, moving on?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Sometimes you have to realize that the people you're talking
to in the media aren't They don't know what you're
talking about.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Right, so, right, all right. So Texas coach Steve Sarkisian
spoke to the Texas High School Coaches Association and he
implored high school coaches to not back down as things
continued to change. Part of his quote said, the game
is changing, not the game on the field, the game
off the field, nil, revenue sharing, publicity rights, whatever you
(36:56):
want to call it. Agents have gotten involved. Trainers have
been more involved, and I'm imploring upon you to not
throw your hands in the air and just say, hey,
it's out of our control. We can't do that. Agents
are new to us. I've got to deal with agents.
That's real. You as a coach, now, how do you
feel about his message to high school coaches and deal
(37:19):
with agents and just the change and for them to
not lose sight of you know, I think he's trying
to say, like, don't don't just sit back and let
things happen. Still be involved.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, I mean I can I echo it. I mean,
I think a lot of we make this out to
be the big bed wolf and stuff, but most of
the agents are pretty good dudes. There's always the occasional
Looney tunesky and not all the kids have agents. You
just got to find the right player for your program
and hopefully they embrace what you're doing. And that is
the press. That's right, they get out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Doug out the show, Fox Sports Trading. You missed any
today's show, check out the podcast. We'll see if the
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