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September 26, 2024 37 mins

On today's version of "Don't Call It A Throwback!..Thursday" Doug and the crew feature 2014 in sports and pop culture.  FOX Sports columnist and co-host of the Doomsday Podcast Matt Mosley joins Doug to talk about the Cowboys. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a Thursday edition of "The Press".

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Who came up with this one? I think this is
a j stew idea right, Like, there's no such thing
as bad ideas here in the Doug Gottlieb Show, especially
with our crew. We've had Dan Bayer propose different games.

(01:09):
We've had Jay su with several segments. Occasionally Iowa Sam
gets in Moncy. Obviously she's got name with some ideas
as well. So I think Jasey is this about two
months old?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Just to clarify, I always Sam rarely has anything. He
has cute bump music selections and he's got good drops
and he just played the crowd noise, but he has
yet to deliver to me an idea for a bit.
I'm still waiting on that, but it's it's still early.
He's only he's only been in the business fifteen years now.

(01:41):
Don't throw it. I'm most proud of the title of
this because a lot of people do throw back Thursday,
hashtag throwback Thursday, but I'm the one who came up
with the concept of the title, and it goes back
to us, like these things that happened in sports. You'll like,
I remember what's the name Hopkins of the Titans. I

(02:02):
remember he was coming back from like a gambling or
a drug suspension or something, and he just went on
social media and said, don't call it a comeback, but
he was coming back because it was like six game suspension.
He hadn't played for a year, but it was a comeback.
He's coming back. But it's like been a thing since
Il Cool Jay did the song like, don't call it

(02:23):
a comeback. So I did a little spin off of that,
and this is the name of the segment here.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
You see what I did there, don't throw I call
it a throwback. I want to go back ten years
Doug on a Sunday Night. I think it was Cowboys
versus the Giants on a Sunday Night. Uh, the internet
broke because Odell Beckham Junior made maybe the greatest catch

(02:59):
in the history of the NFL. I think everyone has
seen it if you haven't googled it. But it was
a one handed catch I guess. I think there was
pass interference on the play. The cowboy defender was all
over him. Just a crazy ass catch that frankly made
the guy a bunch of money and has made him

(03:21):
maybe the most overrated player in the NFL the last
five years. Seems like every offseason there's a there's an
o Day Beckham Junior sweepstakes. Who's going to get him?
Who's going to get Odell Beckham?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Because they all wanted to be back to twenty fourteen.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Oh Beckham jun Yeah, and I think he's on the
Dolphins now doing nothing, probably hurt. But I do want
to focus on that night because if you think back
to twenty fourteen Giants and Cowboys, Tony Romo was playing
in his final full season with the Cowboys. Remember the
next season he would get it hurt, and then the
season after that they would draft Dak Prescott and the

(03:58):
rest is history. The Giants lost that game that night,
and they would they would go on to have I
think a six and ten season. I think this was
two years removed from their upset over the Patriots or
second upset over the Patriots and the Super Bowl. But
if you think about the Cowboys and Giants from twenty
fourteen that year, that's kind of where we're at. The

(04:21):
Cowboys won the division, they of course came up short,
I think to the Seahawks, who would go to the
Super Bowl and lose to the Patriots. But twenty fourteen, Doug,
what comes to mind when you think of that year.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
A lot of different things. When I knew you were
doing this year, I look back and I was like, wow,
there really wasn't very good movies that year. That was
one thing that jumped out of my mind. I think
wasn't good movies that year, but it's one of the

(04:58):
great years in the history of the NBA. Do you
remember who won the NBA championship there?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Twenty fourteen, Doug was a year of a lot of
dynasties sort of not necessarily reaching their end, but maybe
being like the middle of it or kind of towards
the end. It was the San Antonio Spurs and was
that their last one so far? Was the last one
with pop Kawhi Leonard?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Kwiland? That was also, Yes, as Quid learned, that was
the one where we did Lebron cramp up in Game
one in San Antonio was so hot. I believe those
Kwi Leonard was the MVP.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
They upset the heat Yeah? Did they?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Was it an upset?

Speaker 6 (05:44):
I'm guessing the heatles? Come on? Were they? Actually? They
were never an underdog in that series? Were they?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Twenty fourteen was the loan time that Mike Trout was
in the playoffs?

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Wait, wasn't it was that? Twenty fourteen?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
That's sad and I'd want to say he got swept
out of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, although that might not be the year because that
was the year Kansas City was in the World Series.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right, twenty fifteen it was the Kansas City World Series winner,
the Royal, the win that went and watched the Giants.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
And then they beat the Mets.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yes, the Royals beat the Mets and the then Yes,
twenty fourteen it was the Giants when it was at
their third and five years.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Was that mad bum.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Oh yeah, speaking of mad the most popular TV show
at that time and it started its final season.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
It was mad Men?

Speaker 7 (06:38):
Oh, mad Madmen?

Speaker 6 (06:40):
One of the greatest TV shows.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
Love never watched it.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh, tremendous.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
Still I should watch it now.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah. Yeah, it's not dated because it was It's set
in the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
Right, yeah, you're.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
Right, you need to watch it. Do you've been shows?

Speaker 7 (06:57):
I do? I love beinging.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Oh you need to find mad Men? Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I'm gonna watch it.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
Then if it's bad, I'm gonna blame you guys.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Fine, well, Don bat then you have bad taste.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Don Draper's one of the greatest characters of all time
on TV. I think the one thing that you'll find uncomfortable.
And Christina has this thing she hates watching shows or
reading books about guys that cheat if you have that
discomfort and you don't want to. I mean, Don Draper's
got a lot of weaknesses and that's that.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
John Hamm, is he in there?

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Don?

Speaker 7 (07:28):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Okay, great show. What do you remember about twenty fourteen, MALSI.

Speaker 8 (07:34):
Twenty fourteen is when I started working for the Dodgers
and I'm still there, so that's good. It's also when
I started working at University Studios as a VIP tour guide.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
So a lot of memories there.

Speaker 8 (07:47):
But what stands out to me in twenty fourteen sports wise?
That was the year that stupid Donald Sterling really derailed
the Clippers' success because of all of the crap that
came out, and he was banned from the league and
you know, we ended up losing to the Thunder and
like it just that's always I will always always think

(08:09):
of that season as the one that got away because
of Donald Sterling.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
And did you watch the show on FX clipped?

Speaker 7 (08:17):
I actually didn't finish it. It's not it's.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
Fine, but you know it's not like it's not like
a documentary. It's obviously for entertainment purposes.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
So I think I got like two episodes left.

Speaker 8 (08:27):
I was watching it when it first came out, and
then I was like, well, I know what happens, and
I found it more funny than anything, the way that
they chose to execute it, like with the casting and everything.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
But you know, I haven't finished it.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
Start of Steve Baumer that year was that it?

Speaker 7 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 8 (08:48):
Toilets, Thank goodness for those toilets.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
My dad died in twenty fourteen. Anybody wanted, like, I'm
not really sure. It's the happy out happy note that
everybody wanted.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
Ten years huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Ten years November wow, ten years.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
November god bless.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah. I used to call him every night. So that
was I started working in August, so right about you
know now a little bit earlier. From New York City,
we moved from California back to Westport, Connecticut. Love Westport,
and UH drive home every night. People ask why I
drive home. I drove home so I could talk to
my dad. And the one night we were gonna we

(09:27):
were going to California in like two days Thanksgiving, and
UH actually ironically had like the whole I have a
brother and a sister. They each have three kids. Like
all nine grandkids are gonna be there whatever. And the
night before I didn't call him. Uh, I don't even
know why. And then he had a brain bleed middle

(09:48):
night and we went out there and he was on
the machines. We turned out the machines.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
So, yeah, ten years ago, it happens, happens, that is rough.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Yeah, yeah, I really.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Really I would love to say I would love to
say it that. I yeah, I mean like I outwardly
get over things really quickly. Inwardly, that one, that one
sent me back a lot.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
And you know, you probably think about it at the
ten year mark, right, You've been thinking about it this
whole time, but once that ten year mark rolls around,
you're reflecting on it, missing him, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, I don't know. If I didn't really up. Maybe
it's this is probably going to piss Jason off. It's
it been ten years.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Already this time.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Okay, I appreciate that, Sam. You got something to lighten
the mood, please?

Speaker 6 (10:42):
Well?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Ten years ago, I was still living in Iowa, working
a bunch of jobs, and I would move out to
California in December of twenty fifteen. Not really lightning the
mood unless you want to laugh at the Iowah Hawkeye
football team, but they had a pretty whole hum year.
They finished seven and five, and I believe that's the
year they got absolutely slayed slayed by Tennessee in the

(11:07):
tax Slayer Gator Bowl, horrible blowout. And they also got
blown out earlier that year by Minnesota, which doesn't happen often,
but it was like fifty one to fourteen.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
It was Uh.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Coach Jerry Kill really had them roll in there for
a little bit before he had to move on because
of health issues. But yeah, it was a seven and
six season for Iowa football and Jarry Kills.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
He's like retired two or three times because of healthings.
Is he is he? I think he's back somewhere.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
He was with New Mexico State and I know, and they.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Won, like won the bowl game last year. I remember that.
And they had some somewhere this.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Year scandals at New Mexico State, both with the basketball
and football programs because of like hazing and stuff. So
I would have to double check if he's still there.
But he's a great coach. He just had the seizure
issue where he you know, got a little too worked
up nervous and then have these seizures on the sideline
at Minnesota, but he really had them humming. He had
a really good culture in place there before he had
to take his health and consideration.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
But yeah, he's a consultant at Vanderbilt.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Okay, so he said Vanderbil and Vannerbil open to the year.
I think two or three and zero before they dropped
one this past weekend. But yeah, great, coach, I'm sure
a boon to have on your staff.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I noticed this and I'm shocked that Monster didn't bring
it up. The Album of the Year was nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Nice of all of her albums for those who don't
know her music, how does nineteen eighty nine rank nineteen?
For me?

Speaker 7 (12:29):
It's probably it's not my favorite. My favorite is Red,
but nineteen eighty nine was a big one.

Speaker 8 (12:35):
I think that's the one that had blank Space, which
was one of her bangers. Even the music video she
like destroys a Car and I love it.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
That's what I wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
You'd ever describe Taylor Shift's song as a banger?

Speaker 8 (12:47):
I know I've said that to you before, and you
said this because they don't have that.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
Baseline like I think.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I think the banger is like put down the windows,
rote down the windows, put down the top right or
everybody just like.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
We got a baseline kick in.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
Yeah, you know what, you're not wrong.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
The fifth got bangers.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
You're not wrong, though. I just I love me.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I will tell you this. Fifteen always made me cry
thinking of my daughters. Yeah, my daughters were like at
the time, twenty fourteen, they were five, no, no six,
they were eight, they were eight, and uh yeah you
just think of them getting their heartbroken when they're fifteen
years old. You don't want that to happen.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
Yeah, that was a that's a great song. You're right,
very emotional.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
But yeah, in nineteen eight nine, I'm looking at the
list because I forget what albums have?

Speaker 7 (13:35):
What songs? Bad Blood? Great song, great song, bad Blood?

Speaker 6 (13:41):
And then speak for yourself. You speak for yourself, though,
can that be.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Great song, great song?

Speaker 7 (13:49):
Banger bang?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
What else happened two thousand?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'll tell you what the pop culture sensation of the year,
and it's a it's a shaker that this didn't work out.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
Kanye and kim Ka got married. Oh joy, Oh but
that my diary. How many kids.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Daggle?

Speaker 7 (14:15):
That many?

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Two or three how many do they?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Apparently that was part of the Ebola epidemic?

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Was that year?

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Oh no, that was a four children? Sorry, that's a
great memory.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Actually, Yeah, North Saint Chicago and Psalm. Shall I repeat that?
North is eleven, Saint is eight, Chicago is six, Psalm
is five. That's Kim K and Kanye's kids.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Nice. A lot of alliteration there. You guys remember the
ice bucket challenge, right?

Speaker 1 (14:47):
That was that was that summer. Yeah, we did it.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
We should go back to a bola.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's actually a lot harder to get ebola than you
might think, Like COVID is way easier to get than ebola,
but it's.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
That was part of the thing with COVID was how
quickly it is.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
But if you get ebola, you are kind of screwed,
kind of screwed.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
What is what what is the uh what's it called rate?

Speaker 6 (15:11):
What's the like what's the word survivability?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Or like mortality rate?

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Mortality rate?

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I think I guess I'll look it up. While
you are what you will you wax poetic on a
Bola because it seems like you want to.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Well, I read I read this book called The Hot
Zone a long time ago by John Krakauer, dude, like
into the Wild, Into thin Air.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, there was also a wasn't there a movie?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I'll break it was sort of like yeah, kind of
about like kind of the Marburg or Ebola virus, but
just fascinating. I want to say, though, like twenty thirty
years ago before, maybe they had more treatment or uh,
you know.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Treatment for ebola.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
I think that the the mortality rate like it would
kill Oh man, I want to say sixty percent of people.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Fifty average averages, fifty case fatator rates have varied from
twenty five to ninety percent.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah. And then here's a weird thing.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
So I've read about people who got over ebola, but
they still had the virus like incubating in their eyeballs.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Very strange.

Speaker 8 (16:12):
Twenty fourth, Sorry that you were done. I thought we
were done talking about Ebola. I'm trust trying to move
on from Ebola. Keep talking about it.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah, it got into the US.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, and we did Kanye and uh impregnating Kim five times,
four times.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Four children, North Saint Chicago.

Speaker 7 (16:30):
She definitely us a surrogate for at least one of them.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Oh yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 7 (16:34):
Yeah, maybe even more of that that was also the
year that I won, because dude, it's a lot on
the body.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yeah, I know, but like, what's the difference, I know, because.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
You don't want to do it anymore.

Speaker 8 (16:45):
She was like, I'll pay somebody, So I don't know.
I just assume she's hard on the body. That was
the year they do.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
You think Kanye got to stop the plane stop? Doug
might be as Hollywood might be part of the deal, right,
get off surrogate? Right? Who wasn't who? Announced last week

(17:13):
David Dave grow right that he has a he had
one out of out of woodlock.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, and then they're gonna they're gonna stay together. I mean,
I'm sure he tried the surguate thing, babe. Let's just
trying the surrogate in right.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
He really tried to get out in front of it.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's not how the surrogate thing works. Not how it works.
And uh, that is throw back Thursday.

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Speaker 5 (18:08):
For you?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I'm better than you as a guy who's broadcasted from
Waco about Baylor football. What was that like to be
a part of last weekend?

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Well, glad you could start with that. It was. It
was not It was not fun and Bears had one
in hand and let it get away from them. So
they'll get that, They'll get that Hill Mary defense short
up and be ready for for the team coming in
on Saturday. That would be BYU and that's a ranked

(18:40):
b YU team, So we'll see if the Bears can respond.
But that was as a rough night. I had to
go on right after that, so you can imagine that
was That was a tough one.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I thought end of the first half was equally bad.
Just people didn't see it right where they couldn't couldn't
tackle running back and I thought he was down, he
runs in for a touchdown, Like totally there's a couple
of plays totally different game. And then what were they
in on that last play? What what do you do.
Why are you? Are you even in man to man?
I don't even get it.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
No, I don't really think they were trying to be.
It certainly looked like that, and I'm with you. I
don't think you shouldn't let somebody, no matter how great
shador is, hurll the ball fifty yards and not get
somebody over there to help. And I think they started
that play with the two safeties in the back of
the end zone and neither one of them seemed to

(19:32):
move off that spot. So I would I've seen NFL
coaches fired for that. Even in the past five years.
You probably remember that somebody somebody fired their defensive coordinator
off something similar where they rushed too many people, they
didn't have enough people back, they lose the game.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I think the Raiders that they'd already I don't know
they've been fired then, but the Raiders went cover zero
against Baker Mayfield and Baker had a game wing touchdown pass.

Speaker 8 (19:59):
It was.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
It was bad.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
If you fired the defensive coordinator at Baylor, you'd be
firing your head coach because he's the play caller and everything.
So we'll see how this goes. But it's just I
just have a lot of coaching issues in my life
because the other team I think we're probably going to
talk about us has some major coaching issues right now,
and that's the Cowboys. So everywhere I turn, you know,

(20:23):
people were talking about hot seats.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Okay, tell me about Is McCarthy the problem?

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Well, I don't know how much of the problem. He's
certainly not the solution. I think one of his problems
is he doesn't His reaction to these things are weird,
like his reactions the bad losses and getting embarrassed or
to say, oh, you know, we weren't going to go

(20:52):
we weren't going to go sixteen to one. Guys, Oh,
it's not so, it's it's there's a real strange Whereas
some coaches would be embarrassed over what's happening and try
to demand change and make fixes, this guy seems to
be the keying of perspective. Oh, I'm going to bring

(21:12):
some context here. No fans or no one wants to
hear about like, oh, we weren't going to go undefeated
this season. Nobody wants to hear that. After you get
your you know, you get your tail handed to, you
buy New Orleans and then what happened last week was
just almost as embarrassing. I mean, I know the Ravens
are we think are a better team, but this team's

(21:34):
this is just total annihilation. And this is different than
what we see from the Cowboys. Cowboys usually wait till
the postseason to do this. And now it's three straight
embarrassments at home. So maybe it's a good thing they're
playing at New York, a team they almost always beat
twelve to the last thirteen Das had twelve straight against them.

(21:54):
But what they've done at home, Doug after it being
two years of being great at home, is utter embarrassment.
And Uh, if this thing goes sideways tonight, I mean
we're talking, I think we would be heading towards from
in the season changes in the coaching department.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
What did you think about Jerry's hey, we couldn't afford
Derick Henry.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
You know, I was the one asking him about it,
and he he tries to keep rolling that out and
then and then when he was asked, when he was
kind of pressed on that, he you know, he gave
some cute answer about how you can't afford man mansion
or something like that. I think Jerry, you know, he

(22:39):
wants credit now for spending all this money on CD
and DAK and see they've got ninety five million dollars
tied up in those in those two players per year
moving forward. But nobody buys what he was talking about
like that, Hey, I can't. They just decided to do
two things going to the season. They just to not

(23:01):
pay anybody at running back and to go into the
season without any running backs. And they decided to start
the season with no defensive tackles. And well, they're paying
a huge price right now, more on the defensive end
than the running game side of it. Honestly, I think
they made that decision based on the fact that Mike

(23:21):
McCarthy doesn't like to run the ball anyway, Like nowhere
in his history, even in Green Bay did he like
leaning on a run game, And so they decided to
go cheap at that area. But they're horrible. I mean,
it's perhaps the worst run game and it's certainly the
worst run defense in the league. So right now, I

(23:44):
mean this there's not doesn't seem to be a lot
of hope for this team.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now they're not, don't. But let's see, Okay, so they
got the Giants coming in Uh, they lose the Giants,
what happens.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
I think the last time something happened like this, they
traded for a first round pick for Amari Cooper to
try to save their season, and they threw somebody overboard
and threw like an O line coach overboard. If they
keep if they lose to the Giants, I could almost
see him McCarthy trying to save his job by like

(24:20):
firing Zimmer in season. Like if let's say they give
up a ton of rushing yards again and get embarrassed
by the Giants tonight, I could I could see some
people starting to get thrown overboard, and the first person
would be Mike Zimmer, and Jerry would hate that. Jerry
does love Zimmer and the Zimmer family means a lot

(24:40):
to him. But the only time Jerry, Jerry does not
like firing coaches during the season. He only did it
that once and it was Wade Phillips team and that
thing was like one in seven and the team had
completely quit on Phillips. So Jerry will try not to
do this, But if they lose to the Giants tonight,
there's gonna be And then they have the Steelers and

(25:03):
Lions coming up. After that. If this thing got to
one in five, I think he'd have to make a
change in the middle of the season. The problem is
he didn't have an interim, Like the interim is Zimmer,
and so the interim's you know, doing horribly. So you
can't turn the thing over to Zimmer. You'd have to
turn it over to your special teams coach, which is

(25:23):
which is Jim Bones, Fossil or Schottenheimer the offensive coordinator.
So it's I mean, you know, happy happy times you're
here again.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, happy times are are here again. So why is
the defense? I mean, you lost Dan Quinn, your playing
with Zimmer. People think Zimmer is a good defense coordinator.
Why have they been so bad?

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Well, so they're just embarrassingly bad against the run. And
think about these teams that start a season, think about
like the worst possible, you know, d line you can
put together. And of course they've got Lawrence at defensive end,
and they basically have Micah Parsons lining up at a

(26:07):
defensive end. But just think of like the worst defensive
tackle rotation you could ever think of for some team
you've covered or followed, Like, this is worse. This is
worse than in anything I've ever been around, like where
they literally just they're like Mazzie Smith, who's been pretty
much a bust so far, former first round back pick

(26:30):
out of Michigan, And then they got out of camp
and they literally just started having to sign people, just
random people, Like they just brought back this Carlos Watkins,
so they have whereas like the Eagles seem to be
a team that year after year have at least a
rotation of like four to six pretty decent tackles right

(26:52):
to go along with Brandon Graham and whoever else they have,
Like the Cowboys don't have a single defensive tackle right now,
so they're just getting crushed at the point of attack.
Guys are getting moved out. And then this is a
perfect stuff to do against Parsons because if you just
run it at the Cowboys constantly, he can't make plays.
He needs to have the quarterback dropping back because he's

(27:16):
maybe the best pass rusher in the game. Like imagine
that through three games the last two weeks, he has
been completely irrelevant. And this is the guy we think
might be the best defensive player of the game, but
he hasn't made a single play or any anything of note.
While the game's competitive. He hasn't done anything, So yeah,

(27:38):
there's a lot of reasons for it. And they also are,
you know, have some deficiencies on the back end. This
is just I mean, this is the worst defense in
the NFL right now. And I just don't think after
that game against Cleveland and knowing Michael Parsons and DeMarcus
Lawrence and some of these people are over there, we
didn't think that was possible. We thought they'd be fine,

(27:59):
you know, we didn't know if they'd be the best
defense in the NFL. But you always see with Parsons,
they got a chance. Now again, they got a chance
tonight because they love that they love playing the Giants.
The Giants can't beat the Cowboys. But I I almost
think this is a loss to the Giants would be
bad enough that somebody would get fired tonight. And I

(28:22):
don't know exactly who it is, but Zimmer would be
the number one candidate that would be.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
That would be crazy, That would be really really crazy.
On the other hand, they win, and all is right
with the world, right and you got to go on
about your business. It's literally, yeah, it doesn't seem that easy,
but it literally is kind of that easy, feels feels
that way. Yeah, uh mos the best. We gotta we
got to catch up sometime really soon. In the meantime,

(28:50):
Thanks so much for joining us. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Okay, I need some hoops gear by the way.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah you can, you can. You can wear You're You're
at the one place where you can wear the green
because you know nobody will nobody will know, so they
will make it. Yeah, we'll get you some, no problem,
You'll love this. I got a quick story. I got
a quick story for you ready.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Ye.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
So uh.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I do the show mostly from my office. We have
the whole kind of set up here, and I have
a couple of my staff's offices around here, and I
have my director of video and analytics. He does our
ordering for our uniforms and so and all our other stuff.
So this is going back like two months ago. He
was ordering things and my boss, my athletic director, Josh Moon,
walks in. He's like, hey, how come you guys are

(29:31):
ordering green? And they're like, coach doesn't like green. And
my point was, I like green as an accent color.
So I walk in. He's like, what do you mean
to wear green? I said? I said, well, you know,
do you remember when Baylor won a national championship in basketball?
He's like yeah. It's like, do you remember what color
they wore? He's like green. He's like nope, it's like

(29:52):
what they wear whether they were antracite yellow, some bright
like neon yellow. I go why, It's like, what's that.
It's like because green's green is not a good main color.
Oregon has fifty uniforms, right. I was like, like, why
do they have one fifty uniform He's like why. It
was because green is not the best main color. It's like,
we're green Bay. I was like, fine, the Bay will

(30:14):
be green in every part of our uniforms. It's like, well,
the packers are green. It's like yeah, but they're the packers.
They have thirteen titles, and you know what, if they
could probably go back to parking, Like there's a lot
of green here. They also don't have green tops and
green bottoms. Right, there's yellow bottoms. If I do you
want me in a mixed mass and maybe a networks
It was a really funny conversation. Anyway, I thought, I
like that.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
I like that you told your ad I'd like you
to mix in a couple of wins before you start
telling them what color they need to do.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
That's okay. W He walked out and he's like, I'm
the boss, make it green. Then he walked out a
couple of SEPs, like I'm the boss, make it accent color.
Thanks both.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
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Speaker 3 (31:17):
The press.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
What do you got?

Speaker 7 (31:25):
I got a lot of stuff for you. Coach.

Speaker 8 (31:27):
We're gonna start in baseball because this is just funny
to me. Sho heeo Tani's fiftieth home run ball you know,
to make a fifty to fifty happened.

Speaker 7 (31:37):
Against the Miami Marlins.

Speaker 8 (31:39):
Will There is a.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
Young lad, eighteen year old Max.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
Mattis, who has filed a lawsuit saying that he actually
was the one who caught the ball and he's trying
to stop it from going into auction, which is supposed
to start this Friday with Golden Auctions. He is saying
that he had sole possession of the ball, but this
gentleman wrongfully and forcefully took the ball from him. An

(32:07):
older gentleman, a muscular older man, says that he trapped
his arms in between his legs and wrangled the fifty
to fifty ball out of his left hand. There is video.
I don't know if you guys have seen the video.
The video to me does not help this young lad
because of course everyone's trying to go for the ball,
and it looks like maybe they both went for it.

(32:29):
He does look like he's trapped under this guy up,
but then he doesn't fight it anymore, and then at
one point it really does look like he even high
fives the guy that takes the ball.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Doug, this is a little ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
No, it's really really ridiculous. And you know the reason
it's taking place. Why money?

Speaker 8 (32:51):
Money?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, over accomplishment that they had nothing to do with. Yeah, yeah,
it's gross.

Speaker 7 (32:59):
The fact that this could even be a thing is
shocking to me.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Uh No, it's always.

Speaker 7 (33:05):
The thing it always. I guess you're right.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah. I mean you think of all these perfect game
and World Series ball and you name it, it always gets ugly.
It's always about money, and generally the person that gets
the money may be caught or grabbed the ball or
whatever had nothing to do with the accomplishment.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 8 (33:21):
People just think that they're entitled to stuff. And it's like,
what are you talking about, Like, come on, get out.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
Of here, all right, let me let me get out
of here.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Hold sir, let me tell you.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
What is annoying me today.

Speaker 8 (33:33):
Okay, So Dodgers Padres are in this three game.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
Series fighting for the division.

Speaker 8 (33:38):
And then a video pops up today for Mooki Betts's
podcast and he's talking to Fernando Tatis Junior. This gets
under my skin so much, Doug. Why are we buddy
buddies with the enemy right now? I don't care if
your friends in real life. Why are you doing this
interview right now when you have not been batting well

(33:59):
Mookie bets at all. In his last six games, He's
had twenty four at bats and he's had five hits.
Come on, man, come on, man, come on man, am
I am I wrong?

Speaker 7 (34:11):
In being upset that this happened.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
It's a bad look. It's a really bad look.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
It's not a great look.

Speaker 7 (34:17):
Like what right now?

Speaker 6 (34:18):
I just don't know right right now, new media.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
I don't care. It's pre planned. Put it off to
the side. Post the video next week.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Come on, man, come on, good idea, that's a good idea.

Speaker 7 (34:33):
Just hold on to it.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
But you're blessing to tell somebody about that idea. That's
a good idea.

Speaker 7 (34:37):
I I'm like, so obset, Well, I get it.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I don't really understand the like you can have friends
in their team, but we're not right, We're not friends
right now.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
We are not friends right now.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I agree. So even somebody as imminently likable as Mookie,
that's not what we're looking for.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
Correct.

Speaker 8 (34:51):
And it's like, I don't have anything against Fernando Tattoos Junior,
Like it's not I don't care. It's just the principle
of a matter of right. He is he is totally,
But get your head in the game, Like this just
me to me. You're like your priorities are not in order,
and it's it's very upsetting, very upsetting. Okay, let's move
on before I start saying bad words on the radio. NBA, NBA,

(35:11):
thank you for that one. Can you delete that?

Speaker 7 (35:13):
I sound like a witch? Okay, I was media Day.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
It's coming up in October. You could be an oh.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
But a pinon that one. Thank you for that.

Speaker 8 (35:22):
Coach Doug Media Day today in the NBA and Nikola
Jokic is just my favorite.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Check this interaction out.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
First and foremost. It is now your tenth media day
of your career. It's ten? Is it's a round number?

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Like what do you remember about maybe your first or
second media day coming around here?

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Just has anything changed at all?

Speaker 1 (35:45):
No?

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Every year is the same thing, and I don't know
why we're doing it every year. Everything is the same,
completely the same thing.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
And you should you should see a space.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
What was that question?

Speaker 7 (35:57):
I know right? Like what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Like?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
How many questions do you think each reporter got with
Nicole okicch And that was the one you came up with.
And that's what nobody's like a Jimmy Jimmy good question.
What's different about this team? What's there about your off season?

Speaker 7 (36:12):
You have Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, at Russell Westbrook. That hasn't worked out for anybody?
Why do you think that's gonna work.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Touchup?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah, but no, that's a terrible, great answer to a
terrible question.

Speaker 8 (36:24):
And you should have seen his face this in Nicola, Guys,
you looked done him like he was stupid.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
He was just like, are you serious right now? Like nothing,
absolutely nothing? Quickly here?

Speaker 8 (36:33):
How about this Dereck Rose sixteen years in the NBA,
retiring first overall pick in two thousand and eight. I
loved Derreck Rose, and it just sucks that he the
injuries kind of didn't let him really, you know, extend
his his success because he hasn't been good for a bid.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
But no, but he made it his way back to
the NBA.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
He did.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
He came a feel good story if he an MVP
and then you know his body falling apart. I will
say I think he was the of the really good memes.
Remember when they would post like a Derrick Rose playoff
uniform and it would be a suit. Yes, yes, that
was like he was the first of the memes.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
Yeah, you're right. I didn't even think of that. And
that's the press.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
Hey, you get out there and pressed.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
That was the press.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Jay stew you gotta pick on tonight.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
I'm gonna take the Giants in the points.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, I get the Giants in the points. As I said,
with the DraftKings thing and the under giants, the points
and DraftKings and the under all right, back tomorrow, we'll
get you ready for a We'll have a football Friday.
Do a little sing with the Gambler, make some picks
as well. It's Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sport Tradio
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