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May 22, 2025 • 37 mins

In this installment of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday", Doug and the crew feature 1994. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah for his weekly visit to hit on all of the high-level NFL topics this week. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".

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(00:54):
every Thursday. It is definitely a JS two production, although
it's a Dan byer idea we call it. Don't call
it a throwback Thursday.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Ironically, the year is nineteen ninety four. Why is it
ironically nineteen ninety four? Well, that was the last time
the Knicks we're in the NBA Finals. Of course I
know that because that was the year the OJ chase.
That's my most notable nineteen ninety four things. When I
saw JS two you put out the year, I thought,
this makes sense with the exceptions back, the Knicks choked
last night, and I guess they did choke in Game

(01:30):
seven of that of that finals as well.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Thank you, Doug.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
I'll take it from here, and you just sammed up
the feature and try to regurgitate what you just said
in my DJ voice. So nineteen ninety four, I want
all of our listeners and the members of the show
to take yourselves back to nineteen ninety four. I personally
was a junior in college. Yes, that dates me, but

(01:57):
I was very alive and to the fact that the
Knicks and Pacers were playing in the Eastern Conference finals.
That was the finals where Reggie Miller was doing the
famous choke sign to Spike Lee that was mirrored last
night by Tyrese Haliburton. Also, the year that nineteen ninety

(02:19):
four NBA Finals was the Rockets and Knicks, the first
year without Michael Jordan in the league in quite some time.
So it was basically a battle for who could win.
When Jordan was out of the league. The Rockets took
the mantle or maybe took the trophy off the mantle.
I don't even know what the cliche is there. But
nobody remembers that finals because everybody remembers the OJ Simpsons

(02:43):
slow speed Chase and the finals and absolutely what a
year to be alive, Dan, What do you remember most
from that year?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
So?

Speaker 5 (02:52):
And I just I had some other stuff in my ear.
The Knicks also made the finals in ninety nine, the
NBA Finals, so that was correct, just okay, But this
was the Pacers Knicks in the nineteen ninety four Eastern
Conference Finals. Sports Wise, college basketball, Arkansas cut down the Nets,

(03:13):
Scotti Thurman, and the Hogs end up beating Duke in
that national championship game led by Grant Hill in that
scenario then led to an NBA draft where the Milwaukee
Bucks had the number one overall pick and took Glenn
Big Dog Robinson, leaving Jason Kidd to go to the

(03:34):
Mavericks and then the aforementioned Hill to the Detroit Pistons.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
There's your NBA nineteen ninety four, right, People forget nineteen
ninety four weird year for a lot of other sports,
a lot of other things going on.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Wasn't that the year that the Ram and Raiders that
both moved.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
You'd tell me, I think it.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Was Niners won the Super Bowl. But the ninety four season,
ninety four season was maybe the last year of the
Raiders at home. I can't seem or remember which it was,
but again I remember as they're with their franchise that
they were the Oakland Raiders. Yes, last year of the

(04:28):
LA Raiders, the last year of the LA Rams as well.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
The Raiders moved back to Oakland.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Ironically, right, they moved to LA because the Stadium Commission
promised them that they would redo the Colisseum Coliseum was
never redone. Right, they moved back to the Oakland Coliseum
where they were promised this upper deck and all these
new suites, which they got, but it became an absolute

(04:56):
eye sore, never sold in baseball, not great for by
either and ultimately they left Oakland because of That's right,
the stadium that was never up to standards of the
rest of the Nation Football League.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
You're probably thinking, who won Major League Baseball's World Series.
The answer is nobody and it's a shameful act that
baseball canceled the World Series. They canceled most of the
last part of their season. Many things to think about.
During that ninety four season, Remember there had just been
an expansion year of the year before, so the pitching

(05:33):
was deluded. We had Tony Gwynn going after four hundred.
We had Ken Griffy and Mark McGuire and these types
going after sixty home runs, numbers that were being put
up that didn't really have anything to do with steroids,
just the deluded talent. The Expos were the best team
in baseball when everything shut down, and a lot of

(05:54):
people say the Expos are robbed of their only championship
nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Nineteen ninety four e Golf, Dan Barrow, what was it?

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Well, it's funny because that documentary on the OJ chase
and everything that happened that day. It was also highlighted
that it was Arnold Palmer's final round at the US Open,
playing it in Darneer, his backyard, not far from Latrobe, Pennsylvania,
but at Oakmont Country Club just outside of Pittsburgh, which
by the way, is going to host the US Open

(06:28):
coming up again in a couple of weeks, but that
US Open was won by one Ernie Els, So the
first of two US Opens from Ernie Els that year.
That was in nineteen ninety four, the Masters winner, the
first of two Masters championships for Jose Maria Olethabo, one
of the more fun names to say, Fabble Fobblejose Maria Oletabo.

(06:53):
He went again in eighteen ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Wasn't it a dual national? Have what you beer? In
college football? I want to say it.

Speaker 7 (07:03):
Was nineteen ninety four. I believe the Nebraska Cornhuskers reigned supreme.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, that's what I thought. Ninety seven was Michigan in Nebraska?
Isn't it so well? I think he was thinking, were
you thinking Penn State Nebraska? Was that Penn State went
undefeated in the nineteen ninety four fall.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
I believe that Penn State counts their last national championship
in eighty six, something I checked on.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
But that was the Kerrie Collins Kajohna Carter year. And
again that's why, as an Ohio State fan, I do
not like to predict games because I was popping off
at school all that week. I was in high school.
The fall was my senior year of high school nineteen
ninety four. But I was saying that Ohio State was
going to go to Happy Valley and run rough shot

(07:51):
over those Nitney Lions. And the final score from Happy
Valley Penn State sixty three, Ohio State fourteen. Penn State
was a juggernaut that year, unstoppable.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
And the fact checked here at Nebraska defeated Miami and
the Orange Bowl to be the nineteen ninety four college
football champion.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Penn State was undefeated that year. They beat Oregon in
the Rose Bowl on you know, January nineteen ninety five.
But yeah, that was Penn State was that was a
That was a That was the Terry Bowden Auburn year
as well. Oh no, that was nineteen ninety four.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Was that was? That was ninety four? That was okay,
I was supposed to I was supposed to visit Auburn.
They were undefeated, but they were on probation, so they
didn't go right and go to a bowl game.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
And then later on it was like the Jason Campbell
wasn't it like Auburn in like two thousand and four
or something like that, Cadillac Williams, yeah something. Yeah. Running
back Ronny Brown Yep.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
Dan brings up the the OJ Simpson documentary, which I
very much, I very much recommend everybody watched the ESPN one,
the original ESPN one, and in that documentary you are
reminded not only was there a sow speed chase during
the NBA Finals, damn, but I want to say there
was a ticker tape parade for the New York Rangers.
If I'm not mistaken, that's correct. And Mark Messiger was

(09:07):
the big name on that team. And I remember they
asked Mark Messier one day at the locker room, what
do you listen to to get kind of in a
mood for these high level, high leverage games, and he said,
I'm just going to play it for you. Let's go.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
So this is this? That is that is not true.
What I can tell you is this though, in nineteen
ninety four, because I am a huge Tony Braxton, I
know he wasn't listening to it because I was listening
to this as I had tonselitis and then came down
with mono and was stricken into a hotel room in Knoxville, Tennessee.
I touched on college basketball a little bit earlier. I've

(09:49):
told you guys that when I was in high school.
I was lucky enough. My mom is like our spring
break trips would take us to NCAA tournament games. I
got sick before the region final in Knoxville, Tennessee that
had Purdue, as I mentioned, that had Duke. As I
mentioned before, Kansas and Marquette were also in that region.
And I just remember sitting in a bathtub in Knoxville,

(10:11):
Tennessee with this song in my head because I just
again love Tony Braxton, lover music and breathe again just
I think of I go right back to nineteen ninety
four when I hear this song.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
And this was for those listeners thinking is this the
same year that and the same song that broke up
the Mavericks, as Jimmy Jason Kidd and Jimmy Jackson have
thought over Tony Braxton my.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Favorite basketball player brought in to this drama. JJ has
always denied that he was a part of that stooped yes.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Fire, I'm just imagining Dan Byer in a bathtub with
candles lit.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
And bubbles or just sick as a dog, sick.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, I would imagine just man that way. Sam.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I don't hey, you do you booth do you nineteen
ninety four in movies.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well in nineteen ninety four movies? What have I said
my today?

Speaker 7 (11:08):
No?

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Is that mean king?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, there you go, And I know everything. There is
no bunch shrimping business. You can brol it bullets, I'll
tell you or base it right.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Oh, when's that.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Forrest Gump?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
But Forrest Gump?

Speaker 7 (11:26):
Can I have this? I just gotta play it. I'm sorry, Yeah,
I just got to do it. O.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Man, that's good stuff.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
This reminds me. Oh, anybody who calls the latest rendition
of this story the live action version of Lion King.
It's not live action. They don't have animals actually acting
and speaking English. It's not live action.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Flight to tape.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Uh, you guys know, you guys know that. I'm a
huge Tom Clancy guy. Clear and Present Danger was the
top ten movie that year, right, Harrison Ford?

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Was that the one Will and Dafoe in it is
one of the Oh no, I'm thinking of what's the
one whe all the Marines go down to like Columbia.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
That's another Tom Clancy one, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Where Will depos like the chickens in the pot and
then they blow up the.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, that's that one.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, William Devote James Earl Jones is the head of
the CIA, So yeah, that's that's the same one. Dumb
and Dumber that year, Just when I think you couldn't
do anything dumber, you do this and completely reneem yourself.
Oh yeah, Speed also that year, right, it was kind

(12:56):
of the height of Sandra Bullock Speed.

Speaker 7 (12:59):
Oh no, she was just getting her her career started there.
She had a lot of big movies after that.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
That was her launching point, her launch, her launch, would
like so good? Would like Blindside be a part of
her peak?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Didn't know that, that's no, no, I think that sounds
the descent.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
That was her Academy award, That was the piece.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
But that was hers she had, don't you think?

Speaker 5 (13:25):
I have no idea if she went an Oscar it's
kind of a yeah, it's kind of a high point.
I would say.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
She had.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
She had, She had a lot of big movies. I
think that the because she was a relative unknown before Speed.
I remember they like the way they found her. I
read about the making of the movie.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Is she was? She was not? She was not a
big name.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Remember she did Speed, and they got a ton of
money to do a movie called the Net. Oh yeah, yeah,
talk about a movie that doesn't hold up. Don't watch
it right now.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
It's like a psychological thriller about the internet stocking.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
I think this upcoming thing called the Internet al Gore
was talking about it. I can't believe we've gone that
eight movies deep and we haven't mentioned one of the
greatest movies of all time. It's really disappointing that pulp
Fiction has not been mentioned yet one of the greatest.
And if you haven't seen it, shame on you. Dan

(14:17):
Barr I saw it in like three segments.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Oh okay.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
It's kind of how the movie split up into like
little little vignettes.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Right. I'm trying to think of what's on the list
of things we've told Doug our Dan to watch and
how he's prioritized it in his queue and never watched them.
Like correc I got to get to The Godfather, I've
got to get to pulp Fiction.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Pulp Fiction was a movie that was assigned within the
Doug Gottlieb Show. I think it's the only homework that
I've done. I truly believe that there have been other
movies mentioned that have just gone by the Wayside, but
I was able to consume pulp fiction, and I did
consume Top Gun. But it was on CBS, so there

(15:02):
were like eighty seven commercial breaks because they stretched it
out to a three hour window, so it was really long.
That would be the other one. Dan, just please don't
watch pull Fiction around your son. It's not for you.
I've seen it, so I've seen it, but it just
I won't. Yeah, don't do that.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
The There was another movie that happened that year, Doug.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
No, it came out the year before.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
Okay, but yes, this song was the biggest song of
the movie.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Let's Go.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
So so before the before the show we're going over
stuff to do on the show today, and I'm and
I said, let's play this song. And as I'm in
the middle of saying, this is one of the cheesiest
songs ever made. Yes, Sam blurts out, I love the song.
I love this song.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
Sting Sir Rod Stewart and Ryan Adams. They all get
around together around a piano only meet up like on
a Sunday for this music video. And this was The
Three Musketeers, which came out in ninety three. One of
my favorite movies as a kid great cast, Tim Curry.
You know you guys can look it up.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Well, it's also like iconic rap song. Okay, iconic rap song,
but it comes from a movie. What that was the
year that Regulate came out? Right, Warren G. Regulate regulatorss
mount up right? Oh, if you know anything about nineties
rap slash hip hop, that Warren G song is an anthem.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Is an anthem that.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
Was sampled by Jason See what I'm looking at you
Michael McDonald and there I'm looking at.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yes, well, sampled by Warren G. But it was originally
made by man Yeah, Original Brothers or Michael McDonald.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
I'm not sure classic yacht rock because I keep forgetting.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
That is, uh, don't call it a throwback.

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(17:59):
to three the Super Bowl is that the only one
we can like? Where else can we feel like the
game is over and it's just not over like last night?

Speaker 8 (18:07):
Yeah, I mean twenty eight to three is the ultimate.
I can't think of another thing that's that's equivalent from that.
From that standpoint, I guess you can go all the
way back to like, you know, the Frank Reich comeback.
I guess you know, many many, many many moons ago
up there in Buffalo. But yeah, that was h that
was nuts. By the way, listen to that song on
the way in Doug. I was thinking, like the songs

(18:30):
that played in every gym during during the layup line
like like our our era like to me that song
I remember going in every gym played, I've got five
on it, like every single gym you went into that
was in the that was in the warm up mix.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Good good point right, one is about one is about
a bunch of gunman uh mounting up. The other one
is about weed. I got five on a five on
five on that on that dimebag anyway, Uh, not that
I I know the words of those songs or any
think I heard him in layupes. Dana Jeremiah is our
guest on the Doug Gottlieb Show on clock Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Brock perties deal.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, what are your thoughts on how it affects the
Niners moving forward?

Speaker 8 (19:10):
Well, I think it already did. I mean, I think
you saw with the guys that they you know, they
let walk and they picked a handful of guys to
re sign and extend out. But yeah, they've already had
to make some decisions with that, knowing that was coming.
But I also would say this is a you know,
this is a great reminder with this deal when people
were saying how much is he going to get? And
you talk to different agents and they'll give you the
different important numbers. And some think it's not as strong

(19:33):
as it was, you know, listed as, but to me
it was this is Kyle's guy, Like this is one
hundred percent of Kyle's guy. And I think as long
as Kyle is there and they're operating that offense, and
I think Brock is going to operate that, you know,
at a high level, I think this makes a lot
of sense. I do think in some ways Kyle got
himself a lot of security by this contract because it

(19:56):
locks Brock in. And I think Brock is, you know,
at his best when he's in this particular system.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I completely agree.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
And and I think Kyle also likes guys that have
no ego, that just do what the defense determines that
you should do. Trust my offense, And I think Brock
Perry is a perfect example.

Speaker 8 (20:17):
You know what, he got this money that was thinking
about this thug. You know when Brock Purdy got this money.
He got this money before he was even on the team.
He got this money when they were in the Super
Bowl and Kyle bowed up the perfect play and Jimmy
Garoppolo couldn't hit a wide open Emmanuel Sanders on a
post That's what got Rock Purty this contract.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
No question about it.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Doug Otlib show here on Fox Sports Radio, you know,
we haven't talked about it. I'm like, look, you don't
know what speaks ill of the dead, and I know
he's not dead.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
But Derek Carr retires. How would you characterize his career?

Speaker 8 (20:49):
I think he was an over consider him as a
second round pick with what he accomplished as a you know,
a consistently good, not great player. So I mean, I
think that's kind of when you get a few years
removed from it, that'll be what it was. He made
himself a lot of money, never really did a whole
lot in the postseason. But with someone who we'd have

(21:13):
to all agree whatever you think of him, he outplayed
his draft status.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Oh, I don't think there's any question about playing his
draft status. And remember he got hurt that one year
in the before the playoffs with the Raiders.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
Huh he was rolling that year too.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, that was probably peak of his career.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
He was maybe never the same then and then I
think his talent a little bit exceeded what he was
actually making after that.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
So no, I mean his.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
His production, No, his production wasn't as good as what
he was making from that point forward. Yeah, anyway, what
are you hearing as far as the Steelers? Like, it's
kind of getting later early here on Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
Man, I don't get it. I just thought we'd be
done by now, but still nothing. So I mean I
tend to still lean towards thinking this is where it
is and what's going to happen with Aaron Rodgers going there?
But it is getting late man, Like it is again,
I don't get the upside of it. I don't understand

(22:15):
the strategy of it from Aaron's side, like I don't.
I'm just confused by the whole thing, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, what if you want to play football? Why are
you not saying I'm playing football?

Speaker 8 (22:25):
Yeah? I have no idea. I have no earthly idea.
I don't know what the benefit is. So he thinks
differently than a lot of folks. And I can tell
you he definitely thinks differently than me because I haven't
been able to crack or figure it out.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
You and you and you and me both. What do
you think happens with the Browns?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
How does that? How does that play out?

Speaker 8 (22:46):
I think the young guys get a chance to play.
You know, I really think that Joe Flacco is kind
of there in case of emergency break glass. We know
what we have with him, but you'd like to audition
some of these guys. And you know, I think it's
the three and competition between ticket and the two rookies
and see who emerges from that. And I think whoever
that is, I think they get a good little runway here.

(23:08):
You know what that looks like, you know, four six,
eight games, I don't know, but I think they'll get
a chance to see if there's improvement and if they
have something there, and if they don't show those signs,
I think one of the other young guys gets to
pop at it. So, you know, be unusual for them
to break with all four guys. I don't see that happening.
So to me, Kenny Pickett's in a tough spot, even

(23:28):
though they traded for him. I feel like Kenny Pickett's
got to be much better than the two rookies to
be on the team. I just you know, I don't
see his his spot on this team unless he comes
out and is just significantly better than those guys.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, No, I mean it's it's really interesting right now,
he has the experience, he's actually been a starting quarterback
in the NFL, and so you would think you would
have the leg up, but it's a different system, and
I guess we'll just we'll just have to have to
see how it how it plays out. Dereck Henry restructures
his deal. What are your expectations from him at this

(24:05):
point in his career.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
Well, I think he's kind of shattered all expectations, you know,
in terms of how running backs are supposed to age
and slow down. You know, I still think he's a
you know, he's going to be a very valuable player
for them, you know, their offensive line they've invested in.
I think that's big because I do think he needs
a runway to get going. Especially as he gets older,
he's going to probably need more of a runway. But

(24:30):
because you still have to respect and honor Lamar is
a runner. Because they can push the ball, you know,
down the field when they want to. With with Jay
Flowers and company, I think that does give him enough
of a runway where he's a productive player. I don't
think that he's someone that translates to every other scheme,
every other team at this point in his career. But
I do think, you know, Baltimore knows exactly what they're

(24:51):
doing and knows how to use him and get the
most out of him.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, what do they need to do to get
over the hump in your mind?

Speaker 8 (25:00):
And that's a tough one for me. I just I
I I think it's kind of against like their whole thing,
the whole set up there has been kind of against
conventional wisdom when they when they got Lamar and they
got rolling there and then for some reason they've and
Lamar has gotten better as a pastor every year and
he's you know, got the MVPs. But I still think
their best formula to win is to just pound people.

(25:22):
And when you get a chance to have a buy,
you get a chance to be at home, you know,
things like that. The opportunities they've had, I think they've
tried to get a little cute and outside themselves in
the playoffs when they didn't necessarily have to.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, no question, And whereas just playing conservatively shorten the game,
beat you and Seeva Lamar can win it late instead,
they're they're you know, they're trying to beat people, I mean,
and that's why they change off in Squirreners.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
They didn't.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
They didn't like what they were doing, and what they
were doing was really successful. So I find that to
be super super stick. The bills are going to be
on Hard Knocks obviously a ton of pressure because.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
They've gotten there.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Uh do you think that a Hard Knocks has jumped
the shark as it?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Does? It not? Is it not what it used to be?

Speaker 8 (26:07):
I mean, I think they do a tremendous job of
getting the audio and the video and taking people behind
the curtain, and I still think there's you know, there's
credit to be given to them for that, and they
do a very professional job. I just I've kind of
been behind the curtain, so that stuff doesn't really intrigue
me as much. So I'm probably not their target audience,

(26:30):
but I haven't gosh, I haven't watched it in years.
I really haven't, So i'd say that, And I don't
want to make it sound like I don't think they
do a good job and there's that's there's an audience
out there for it. I'm just I'm just not really
the audience.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
No, I get it.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I also think that everybody has their own content now, right,
So it's not nearly as unique as it used to be.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
Every team is micing up all their guys out of
practice and all those things, so it's not Yeah, it's
not as unique as it used to be for sure.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Listen Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Supportraitor. That's the
voice of Daniel Jeremiah. Give me one team that we
should be paying attention to that we're not. Okay, we
always pay attention to Cowboys, We always pay attention to
pay attention to the Niners, brought party Chiefs obviously a
little bit, Eagles a ton, we'll talk some tousch push
the second.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
But one team we should be paying attention to now
that we're not.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
To me, I'm actually pretty interested in the Rams, you know,
to see what it looks like. You know, what do
they get out of Devonte Adams? They've got a really young,
good fast defense. What does that look like another year together?
They're an intriguing one to me to keep an eye
on them, So I would put them in that mix.
And I would also say the team that I saw
in the playoffs last year, Houston. I'd have questions about

(27:40):
the offensive line, But that's another really really talented defense
with some you know, with some really exciting players led
by C. J. Stroud, So that would those would be
two I keep an eye on.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Are you a Are you a toush push guy or
an anti tousch push guy.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
I'm i'm a. I think this is all much to
do about guy. I'm a. You go ahead and ban
that thing. They're still going to figure out ways to
run quarterback sneak with probably the strongest pound for pound
quarterback in NFL his speed. Jalen hurts. I don't know
that the odds would be all that different if they
were doing a different brand of a sneak, if they
were if they were spreading everybody else and run and

(28:17):
running the same thing. But I mean, man, there's passionate
takes on either side of it. I don't even think
it would have been that drastic of a difference if
they banned it.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
To be honest, well, why don't they just ban where
you can't push a guy from or enforced that you
can't push a guy from behind?

Speaker 8 (28:32):
Yeah, I would be fine with that. I don't even
I know. They gave it him passionate plea and they
got it to keep it as it is. But I
they're not dumb in Philadelphia. I think they would have
figured out a way, you know, to still be successful
using the guy who squats six hundred pounds in the
quarterback position.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
Yeah, go ahead, jay Stu, you had something, Yeah, Doug,
I just wanted to let you know, Daniel, he's got
a hard out here pretty quick. He's got to go.
I told him we would specifically not bring up that
there are zero for thirty with runners and scoring position
in their last four games. I totally we wouldn't cover that.
But he's got to get going, Doug.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
But they they did. They did get two of those.
At the end of this game. They're getting ready to
lose in the eleventh inning to the Blue Jay. So
at least we got out of that streak. But we're
getting ready to drop our belief sixth game in a
row something like that. It's caused me to watch more
NBA than I thought I would.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I can tell you that, m yes, yes, uh, DJ
great stuff has always Thanks so much for joining us. Sorry,
bet your padres just choking when they have runners in
the square position.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
Ah, so bad, so bad, All right, buddy, I'll see it.
Jay Stu, You're not a nice person.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
He's really he's really not He's really not just, but
he never never professed to be.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
That's the thing, right, that's true.

Speaker 8 (29:38):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
By the way, I just hope you guys know Angels
six wins in a row, just six wins a row.
No Mike Trout, just telling you. Just put it out there,
put it out how they.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
How his Dodgers did against them.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
By the way, I think we'll be fine, my friend.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I'll think ah, I have some connection issues with dead
with Ja Matte.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Thanks DJ.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
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Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
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Speaker 3 (30:14):
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the show, our podcast be going up. You missay it
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Speaker 2 (30:29):
Let's get to the press.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
The press, Doug. Earlier in this show, I'm sorry, stand
by her here. I just started talking. Earlier in the show,
we did a draft of the worst blown leads and
chokes in sports history, a lot of top level recommendations,
and we also got some feedback on social media. So

(30:56):
all of these nominations could have taken the place of
both of Iowa Sam's answers that which related to Big
Ten specific matchups Illinois coming back from fifteen points down
to meet Arizona and the Elite Eight in two thousand
and five. Sure that from a Preller Forever who also added,
don't forget the Bill's Euler's game that Daniel Jeremiah referenced

(31:21):
and John Van Dervelt at the Open Championship in nineteen
ninety nine. Now, the only thing that I will say
with that, you know those Twitter you've guys seen them,
Jason Sam Dug where they're like, what's the what's the
like the hell you'll die on?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Mine is Van Develt of choking. I think he just
had awful luck, just awful luck in that situation, and
nobody will agree with me, but it's the only one
that I will sit there and stand and say, man,
it just didn't didn't work out. I don't think he choked.
I think he had awful luck. But that's just for me.

(31:59):
EP Workshop also had the Oilers Bills game.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
Yes, great was the contest that you said the biggest
choke jobs of all time in sports, and Sam summarized
both of his picks with the word obscure.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
They were obscure, but they were choke jobs and blown leads.
They wasn't, I wasn't defying the definition of our game.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
They also they also Michigan State games. Yes, right, John L.
Smith reference Jeralds John Smith.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
John L.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Smith lives in a Notre Dame at home with a
big lead. I think that's what Christler is saying. That's
why they're Michigan State.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
So we had that big comeback and then he also
had the big he had He had it two sides
of the coin in the same year, I believe.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
So yeah, crazy. They played a whacky one against Ohio
State as well. He made like some comments running off
the field, right, yeah halftime. But so there's a Michigan
State centric Harry game time. Speaking of college football, the
current format of the College Football Playoff is changing. The
top four seeds in the rankings will now receive the

(33:08):
first round buys. No more, will it be the four
highest ranked conference champions that will go into effect this
upcoming season.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, so we screwed up last year. We'll fix it
for next year. And I would expect even more changes
moving forward.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Like fourteen and sixteen teams possibly.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
That, and like, you know, the idea of the ACC
getting two teams in when it's SMU or Indiana getting in,
you know, as opposed to Morris, I think that, I
think a likelihood is not strong.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
The matchups that would have been if it would have
been the new way would have been Notre Dame Clemson
in the first round, Boise State, Indiana, the Winter getting Oregon.
I think Oregon would have liked that. Ohio State and
Arizona State with the Winter getting Texas and SMU and
Tennessee with the Winter getting Georgia. Penn State would have
gotten the winner of that Clemson Notre Dame game. All right,

(33:59):
Doug Dave Adelman is the new head coach of the
Denver Nuggets. He was the interim now he's the full
time head coach. Getting the gig in Denver.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, and you know he got the he got the
I wasn't knighted or whatever by Jokic, but obviously Jokic
seem to approve and as much as people want to say,
like whoa Jokich is playing, the coaching the team, and
a player led team is your best team. This is
his player led team's best team. And he did a
good job of infusing some life into him. I think

(34:29):
bigger thing is who's their GM. And now Adaman has
to work with a new GM and we'll see because
they have to rebuild that roster and have a greater
depth of talent, just not enough players.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Report from ESPN says they've done the numbers. They crunched
it all in. The Buffalo Bills are the only team
in twenty twenty five to be favored in every one
of their seventeen games. The Buffalo Bills will open the
season at home against the Baltimore Ravens. They also have
a home game against the Chiefs later on in that seas,
but they would be favored, and they're favored in the

(35:02):
Ravens game, and they would be favored in the Chiefs game.
With the line right now, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Problem with that is we don't know who's healthy when,
but it is correct. It does show that the tough
games they have, they have at home, and yes, the
last year in this old stadium too.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
The Chiefs and Ravens are the teams with that would
be favored in sixteen of their seventeen games. The only
games they're underdogs in are to the Buffalo Bills. Jay
Stu and I are planning our Buffalo road trip coming up.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
In Stelliah can't wait.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
So we are going to bid farewell to high Mark
Stadium at least at some point coming up in the fall.
Lion's defensive end. Lions defensive end Aiden Hutchinson told reporters
today he's been fully cleared for football activities after breaking
his leg last season.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Did you see the video of him running?

Speaker 5 (35:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
One great?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
But again, I don't know how how far along he
is and if he could still kind of dragging the
leg a little bit. I mean, look, if he just
comes back to play football, that's a win, because that
was a nasty, nasty broken.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Look.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
This also leads to the point, remember there was the
conversation if he if they make it to the super Bowl,
that he could be cleared. And we're now three months
removed from the Super Bowl and now we're getting word
that he's cleared.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
Yeah, it just doesn't doesn't accurate. It's not accurate. It's
not accurate, all right, And day Baseball Yankee sweep the
Rangers winning one nothing. Jay's down the Padres as we
told you in eleven, seven to six, and Dug your Angels.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Won six in a row. Stop bearing the lead. The
Angels have won six in a row.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
They got a little bit closer still, trellie A's three
to two right now in the fifth inning, and the
Rockies going for the sweep, or excuse me, the Phillies
going for the sweep over the Rockies up to nothing
right now in the seventh.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Have the Rockies won a series so far this year?

Speaker 5 (36:53):
No, They've only won eight games.

Speaker 7 (36:56):
Can I ask are they on par to actually break
the White Sox record that they set last year for
like just in futility?

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Yeah, I mean they could be. I mean, if you
think about it, if there's we're fifty games in they've
only won eight like unreal, Yes, it's atrocious. I'm pretty
sure they haven't won a series. I'm pretty sure. But
that's just because they've only won eight games. That's the press,

(37:23):
by get out there and pressed. That was the press.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
real quick, Dan Buyer, who do you like Tonight Thunder
and Wolves Timberwolves. Wolves are a seven and a half
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