June 19, 2025 • 37 mins
In this installment of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday!", Doug and the crew feature the year 2016. Doug previews game six of the NBA Finals. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Mark Medina onto the show to talk about the Finals and the Lakers. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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UH two coasts. Sort of right, We got a lot
to get to today. We're getting ready for a game
six to the NBA Finals. Mark Medina will join us
in twenty four minutes. Can't wait to talk to the
funky cool Mendina plus everything else going on in the NBA.
(00:43):
Dodgers padres walk off home run by you know what
Chase do, I'm gonna give you credit and yeah, as
Dan can tell you, I do a bad job of
following up on some of your guys tweets because they're
really good. But as you pointed out to Chase du
there's lots of catchers that are good hitters. The difference
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to that the Dodgers catcher is he always plays catcher
as a quality hitter. Because Shoheyo Tani is the DH.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
There's a there aren't many catchers in the Hall of
Fame because catchers wear down because their production at the
plate inevitably wears down over the especially as as the
summer moves on and the heat ramps up. You need
to give your catcher's rest. But the problem is, if
you have a guy who's very productive, hitting like three
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point thirty and driving in a bunch of runs, you're
gonna play him every day. The problem is Shohio Tani DHS.
He hogs the DH spot. He is immovable, and Will
Smith is a very productive hitter, so they have to
play him at catcher. And he's doing very well with
a walk off last night, and he should get more
credit for that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Love that we can do the more credit thing we'll
get for tonight's game. We'll give you a couple of
guys that should get more credit. We'll see with Tyre's
haliburt in game time decision. And I just again, I
have my own thoughts on that. But we do this
every Thursday. It's a way of talking sports but doing
the nostalgia thing.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
We call it. Don't call it throwback Thursday.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Dan Bayer.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
What do you have my friend, Doug, I'm not sure
if I can do this.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So I'm right Stewart.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, thanks Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
By the way, why does why why does Jason start it?
Why do you start it that way? Why is this
a you mean?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You mean? Thank you, Doug. I'll take it out here. Yes,
I'm glad you guys, as I'm glad you asked. Nobody's
asked me this. I don't know if he's still living.
Maybe uh Sam could google it and get it wrong.
Beware if the great Paul Moyer is still alive, it's
a tribute to Paul Moyer. Doug knows Paul Moyer. He
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was in this market in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
He was.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He was the greatest news anchor in the history of
Los Angeles. I think he was the first news anchor
to make a million dollars. He moved went fromn ABC
eyewitnessed news over to NBC and he was a six
o'clock news anchor. And Paul Moyer would start his newscast
every single night by taking the baton from the five
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o'clock anchor, and the five o'clock anchor would be mid sentence,
and they'd be for more of the coverage of the fire.
We'll thank you, Nancy. I'll take it from here, and
he would just cut her off and start the broadcast.
And because it's Paul Moyer, the news that you just
got at five is going to be more important and
it's going to be better because I'm delivering it to you.
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I'm the news anchor that's going to give you the
best news. I'm the one making a million bucks. Thank you, Nancy.
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
According to the highly unreliable AI powered Google, Paul Moyer
is still alive.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He's eighty four years old. God bless him.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
He just turned eighty four on June thirteenth. According to
the highly unreliable Google.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Maybe he's listening right now, Hello, Paul Moyer, and I'll
take it from here. That's for you, Paul.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Have you ever googled someone from your past and then
their obituary came up and you're like, oh, my goodness,
they passed away, and then you realize that it was
somebody in Arkansas that was like sixty seven years old.
You're like, oh, okay, good like they didn't they didn't
pass away. Have you ever had that happen. It was
just someone with the same name, Yes, exact same name.
You're like, no, then you're like born in nineteen fifty one.
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You're like, oh, okay, all right, that has happened. Yeah,
all right, sorry, don't be.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You guys know what happened nine years ago today? No clue? Then, well,
the greatest rundown block in the history of NBA basketball happened.
Oh yeah, if that clue isn't enough. The Calves pulled
off the impossible. They completed their comeback of three game
down three games to one against the world beating Golden
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State Warriors won Game seven of the NBA Finals ninety
three to eighty nine. A lot of people give credit
to Lebron for that rundown block, but we all know
who the big star in that game was, Doug That's right,
Kyrie Irving made the Big three at the right time
nine years ago today. Amazing that it's been nine years.
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Do you think of all those Calves that won that championship.
Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson j R. Smith, Richard Jefferson was
on that team. You're gonna see him tonight on the broadcast.
Moe Williams Emon Schumpert, and this was the Warrior team
that had not added KD yet. In fact, it probably
prompted them adding Kevin Durant. If I'm not mistake nine
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years ago today, Dan, can you believe it? What do
you think about when you think about.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Thanks Jason, I'll take it from here. I think it's
one of the greatest. I actually think it's the greatest
NBA Finals of my lifetime that I can remember, and
there have been some good ones. Lakers Celtics won seven
games in twenty ten, but Game seven was just a
bricklaying fest. I think it's the greatest finals of my lifetime,
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which spans forty eight years, and the first NBA Finals
that I remember it was probably eighty five. I don't
know if it was eighty four eighty five, but it
was Celtics Lakers, because I remember in eighty six, I'm like,
what the Lakers aren't in it? It's the Rockets. But
if you go through history and you look at the
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one sided affairs or some that maybe were competitive but
didn't have as much star power, sorry Spurs, Pistons, but
this had everything. It had drama, it had plays, it
had the comeback, It had the new kids on the block,
it had the biggest star in the NBA. It went.
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It was just magnificent. And then to end the way
that it did and then changing the course of the history.
I think it's the greatest NBA Finals of my lifetime Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The least discussed part of it is that, in addition
to the suspension of Draymond Green, Andrew Boga got hurt,
didn't play in five six and seven or didn't play
beyond at the end of game five six and seven,
and just the incredibly underrated part of those early Warriors teams.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Sure he goes.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Down that series change traumatically. It's not an excuse for
the Warriors. It's an explanation.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Draymond obviously got suspended, and I also I think that
was a cumulative suspend. To remember that was when he
stepped over I think was Lebron James on the ground
right or somebody stepped over him and he jumped up
in punched him in the gonads. But that was the
playoff run where multiple times he gotten called for kicking
his leg out and hitting guys in their unmentionables, and
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finally he got suspended but Andrew Boga getting hurt to
me is the least discussed part of the Calves comeback,
because he's a great screener, a tremendous passer, played about
half the game and it changed the dynamics of that
series completely.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It's funny, Doug, you say this because I'm going to
transition to golf here, because I think when you look
back at what JJ spawn did this past Sunday, we're
going to look back and look at that putt on eighteen,
when in reality, it was his drive on seventeen that
won him the championship, because that was the hole that
allowed him to have the one shot lead, where all
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he had to do was two putt the eighteenth put
The putt that he made on eighteen was also aided
which I don't think we'll remember this in history by
Victor Holin having the same exact putt in showing him
the line prior. So I think that there's parallels. And
since we're speaking of golf, won a magnificent year. Twenty
sixteen was for golf. Sure, maybe you're thinking Danny Willett
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winning the Masters isn't the greatest thing in the world,
but then you have Dustin Johnson doing what he did
at Oakmont and striping his drive down the fairway at
eighteen and then striking his second shot just a few
feet from the hole, getting redemption from the previous year.
That was then followed up by you ready for this,
the Mickelson Henrik Stenson showdown at Troon. Golf played at
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the highest level those level. It was basically a two
man tournament. On the final day, Henrik Stenson ends up prevailing.
Then you had an early PGA Championship because the Olympics
made its golf debut, or golf made its debut in
the Olympics. You had Jimmy Walker winning at Baltus Wall
the Baltus Rowl in late July. And then you had
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Justin Was winning the gold medal at the Olympics. And
if that wasn't enough, the US won the Ryder Cup
that year at hazelteen in Minnesota, beating the Europeans, something
that had not happened very often. Their first win. Yeah,
after getting well, they actually won two thousand and eight,
and then they won again in twenty sixteen. So big
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year for golf in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Golf there what a year in sports. The Chicago Cubs
broke a one hundred and eight year championship drought by
beating the Indians in seven games. I think they were
down three to one in that series, weren't they Maybe Okay?
And now they've started on their one hundred and eight
year drought. They are nine years into their one hundred
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and eight year drought. Now, remember after that, Remember after
that World Series, the conversation was, Oh, this team's gonna
win a lot of these very young superstars. Chris Bryant, MVP.
Chris Bryant right now is collecting chucks from the Rockies.
But he's on a milk carton box and Denver, nobody
knows where the hell he is.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
And I'm I'm right now.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I'm playing Sorry to catch you off guard there, Jason
playing little Go Cubs Go, which Jonas knocks one of
our hosts here. He hates this song. He's a Cubs fan.
It's their rallying song. All right, back to your regular
schedule programming. Should we listen to the chorus real quick?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And I'm singing, Go Cubs Go?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's nice? To those nice touch, thank you, thank you.
Uh Dan mentioned that the Olympics were that year. Do
you guys remember anything that happened from the Olympics. That's
something in Rio.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Daja Ryan Locktey didn't he get into some drama.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Oh yeah, that was.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
The That was the the convenience store bathroom Lockedy Gate, Yes,
where they said.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
They were robbed.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Good looking guy though right I picked the the US
men's national swimming team is one of my tea USA
is from a game recently. They had quite the run
there in Rio. But yes, Lockeddygate was where they went
to this convenience store in Brazil and they said they
were robbed and that turned out to like not be true.
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Instead they had like crashed a bathroom and tried to
cover that up.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So twenty sixteen in college football was about Clemson finally
not Clemsoning. All right, Lamar Jackson was your Heisman Trophy winner,
but Clemson winning a national championship, finally getting back since
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nineteen eighty right again, National championshi game was January nine,
twenty seventeen. But that was the story of sixteen. Was
the the Clemson Tigers, not Clemsoning.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
And that was Deshaun Watson hitting Hunter Renfro in the
last play of the game.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Not the baseball player.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
No, the football player. No, it look like Jalen Hurts
and Bama had at one. But not the case.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Right, If you were to say, in twenty sixteen, Doug
just brought up Lamar Jackson, you just brought up Deshaun Watson.
In nine years, Lamar Jackson will be one of the
highest paid quarterbacks in the history of the NFL. Deshaun
Watson would be the highest paid quarterback in the history
of the NFL. But one would be describably worse in
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reputation than the other. Sure, because even at the time,
I don't think Lamar was considered like a great pro
prospect quarterback Deshaun was. It didn't end up that way.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, Lamar that year they played at Clemson, he really
struggled the first half. Second half he played well and
it became a close game. But he had one more
year left to play, if I remember correctly, and again
up and down at Louisville, finished cut poorly in the
bowl game against Mississippi State.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But yeah, you're you're right.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
If you would have said these are the two highest
paid quarterbacks in the NFL at at a period of time,
going back to last year, that would attract if you
would have said that, of the guys who have been disgraced, Uh,
it's the quarterback at Clemson that his own coach called it,
Michael Jordan, and his personal life was beyond reproach. People
would have said, no way, you're you're you're lying. So yeah,
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it's it's fascinating what's happened to Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
That was also your favorite title game in or at
least ending in college hoops. Right, Chris Jenkins sixteen Bang
bang North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I mean, imagine hitting and and what's lost in it
was North Carolina hit a three, unbelievable three to tie it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Right, game was tied.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Marcus Page was Marcus Page double clutch three, Marcus p Yeah,
and Marcus Page hits it. Villanova calls time out and
they come down and run a play and Chris Jenkins
on a pitchback three hits it as the game expires,
And I mean, I don't know how if you're Jay
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Wright you maintain that level of composure, But the watching
the ball in the air and everything in your life
changes as it goes in and all you say is bang.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
That's how you know you're cool.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It's cool, like you can't. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I love how this entire segment has gone full circle.
You got the Oakmont, you got Lamar and DeShawn, You've
got Jay Wright, who would have known nine years later
he'd be turning down a Knicks team with three of
his former players. Amazing how the sports world works. But
I remember seeing a feature on Jay Wright and they
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said what are you listening to nowadays? And I was
surprised by his answer.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
It was this.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
This is Lose Yourself from Justin Bieber at top the
Billboard Charts for twenty sixteen off the album Purpose. Now,
for those music enthusiasts, you'd probably think Justin Bieber was
just a teeny bopper who appealed to one audience teenage girls.
No no, no, I would say Purpose was when he
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made the turn. Purpose was the album where he became
a reputable, respected artist. And he basically he went from
this album to becoming like very respected in the hip
hop community where he would do great features and he
would become like a hip hop artist for the next
nine years. Justin Bieber maybe this was the start of
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his third act, as I like to say, in his career.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Movies in twenty sixteen. Right, you guys know me The Accountant.
The Accountant was a big movie that year, so to
is Rogue one a Star Wars story. I liked Rogue one.
I liked those little tweetterers that started ended, and there
wasn't any any carryover from them.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I just watched Rogue one because we finished the second
season of and Or, which buttons up right to Rogue one.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And what I thought should have won best movie that
year is, without any question the best of the Marvel
or DC Comics movies.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's Deadpool.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And my argument behind Deadpool winning Movie of the Year was,
isn't it supposed to be the thing you like watching
the most?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Right? It was like Handmaid's Tale, Like, come on, dude,
Handmaid's Tale or Deadpool. Deadpool was hysterical.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It was a different way you know what they use meta, Right,
it's a different way of doing a superhero movie, and
they made fun of other superhero movies.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I thought it was hysterical.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well obviously, yeah, I think it's racist to say that
any Marvel movie other than Black Panther wasn't the greatest
of all time. But Deadpool reaches a different audience, right
that was the first rated Marvel movie.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
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Speaker 4 (18:19):
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Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's a Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Mark Ridina
is gonna join us in a couple of moments. But
before we get to that, let's get to Dan Byer.
We're getting ready for Game six tonight, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. So tonight's Game six. Obviously we don't
know about tyres Halburton. My guess is he tries to
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give it a go and we'll see, you know what
type of explosiveness he has off of what's likely a
pulled calf muscle. And anyone who's ever pulled a muscle
or strained a muscle knows that even when it feels
right like you're like, oh, I'm good, you just you're
one year tentative and then two there usually is a point,
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especially if you come back too soon, that it feels
like you pull the thing again. And the question I
would have is are you going to take a shot,
and you know, if you take a shot, well, then
if you take that shot, then I think it's really
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really easy to feel like you're going to be fine
and you're going to play through it. But then in
game seven you'll probably be a wreck because of it,
because whatever you pull, if there's still a strain there,
you run the risk of tearing it and.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You're not going to feel that pain.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But it's not the machismo of sports, the machismo of
and it's just kind of the way I always thought
most guys are wired. I understand. I think Jay stew
maybe Sam. You guys asked me like, isn't that a
selfish thing to play when you're really hurt you're hurting
your team? Yeah, I mean you'd have to really really
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be depleted in order to go, like, yeah, I can't go,
I'm gonna hurt my team. I think you go, and
then if you're hurting your team, it's.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
The coach's job deploya. That's my perspective, like did you
just go?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But you know it's one of those deals where you
can go in warm ups and you'll be fine, you know,
a polled calf you can play through a strained calf.
You can play through there's ways in which you can
kind of navigate it. It's going to hurt it, and
if it's torn torn, then there's nothing you can do.
But then you wouldn't be running. I know there's a
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perception out there. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a
cast specialist Achilles specialist. There is a perception that the
Achilles was the precursor to Kevin durantz Achilles injury. I
don't believe that to actually be the case, but that
is part of why many people think you hold him
out of this game.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I do not, But if he can't play, I don't
think less of him. I think there's no way he
wouldn't want to play if he could play. It's just
they're watching him and like he can't run, he can't move.
You can't run, you can't move. It's a coach's decision
to go like, nah, you can't do it. If you
can run, you can move. Then you play him and
he's not playing effectively, then you pull him. That's the
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way I look at it.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
It's different, too, Doug. If it's Andrew Nemhard, this has
no disrespect to Themhart who's been a key part of it.
But sure, this is Haliburton, you know, their leader of
their team, and if Nemhard can't go, you're like, okay,
we can, we can fill that void variety of ways.
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In the forty eight minutes, there's really no filling his
absence of Halliburton. So then you're just you're up to
the decision, Like I don't think that Rick Carlisle can
pull him because I know they hung with Oklahoma City
with Halliburton not doing anything. That's just not a recipe
for success. You can't expect that. You can't expect TJ
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McConnell to end up taking the load that he took
on in Game five to make up for what Halliburton
couldn't provide. Just doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Let's find out if Tyreus Halburton is going to play,
because again, I don't know if he knows all, but
he definitely knows more than we do. Mark Medina is
our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show, longtime NBA writer,
our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider, and the only NBA
insider to have his own theme song, Fucking I don't
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think he's cold wherever he is. If he's in Oklahoma,
he's definitely not cold, or he's in Indiana, it's not cold.
It's hot today in the midwift.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
What's it like? Tyreus Haliburt in playsnight, Hey.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Doug will real quick, you don't mind me saying I
may not be part of an ownership group that just
sold a franchise for ten million dollars, but at least
I got the intro song of Yeah, Tyres Haliburt. I
think technically game time decision. From what Rick Carlisle says.
My hunches he's going to play because of the obvious
stakes elimination game NBA Finals. He wants to compete and
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give them a chance to still salvage the series. But
I think he's going to be on a very very
tight leash, meaning maybe not a presetment ines restriction, but
Carlisle coaching staff, training staff will watch him very closely.
In any immediate signs of discomfort, they'll say, you know what,
we appreciate your service, but let's sit this one out.
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But we'll see it's always full in these kind of situations.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, my guess is he gives it a go and
then it's up to Carlisle to pull him if he's being.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Ineffective exactly exactly, Yeah, give him, give him a chance
to compete, and you know, obviously defer to him because
he's a competitor, he knows his body as a star player.
It gives himselves the best chance to somehow still keep
this series alive. But if he's showing discomfort clearly making
the team worse, then they go to plan.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
V Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
have the what went so wrong for the Pacers in
Game five?
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Well, obviously, you know, as we allude to, Tyres Alburn,
wasn't the same player. It's not so much that he
went scoreless in the first half that was troublesome. He
wasn't aggressive, he was passing the ball a lot, and
you know, you can understand some of it, at least
how to do with his injury. But they also turned
the ball over a lot, twenty five turnovers and unlike
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or twenty three, but unlike game one when they got
away with a lot of turnovers. A thunder defense really
create instant offense out of that. And then you add
up the fact that Jay Gouldis allixan or playing it
like an MVP. Jaywan Williams forty points, showing that he's
a much more consistent secondary score compared to last season
and has had a good bounce back record during these
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playoffs for the ups and downs. So when you look
at the Thunder, there's just so much that's hard to stop.
And you also compound the fact that India is not
fully one hundred percent, even though they're resilient. They got
TJ McConnell, they got Pascal Siakam, They're a comeback team.
It's really tough sledding to go against a Thunder team
that's now planning their best basketball and just also have
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a lot of Plan A, Plan B, Plan C options.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get
to that Lakers sale.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Why now? And when I say why now, obviously the
number is huge.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, but when you combine it with the Celtics, the Mavericks,
the Blazers, the Hornets, a lot of teams being sold
in the NBA, but you have the two most storied
franchises sold in the last twenty four months.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Why now?
Speaker 7 (25:59):
Yeah, there's a lot of turning points biggest turning point
is when Philip Danshud sold his twenty seven percent share
to Mark Walter in twenty twenty one. At the time,
you know, people, some that I talked to speculate, Okay,
there's a bigger playing here. Doesn't necessarily mean the Bus
family will sell, but Mark Walter has a lot of ambition.
So that was turning point number one. Turning point number
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two is just what you alluded to. The franchise values skyrocketing,
whether it's the Dallas Mavericks with Mark Cuban selling his
majority share for six billion or three billion, the Celtics
going for six there is a time to sell high
right now because of the media rights deal, as well
as the fact that it's just more expensive to run
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an operation in professional sports these days. And as you
have alluded to Doug on your show yesterday, Lakers or
mom and pop organization, they obviously historically have always said
they want to win championships. They spent on the stars,
it's the Lakers brand. But they're very economical, sometimes frugal
when it comes to retaining role players. How they pursue
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head coaches, the resources they put in front office is
you know, analytic departments, support staff, et cetera. So I
think all those things perfectly aligned, as well as Luka
Doncis's acquisition last season, which made the franchise value story
even higher.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Okay, so what does this mean for JJ?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
What does this mean for Polinka? What does this mean
for Lebron? What does this mean for Luca? We can
sit here and go it means nothing. But look at
the Phoenix Sun another another another team that's been sold.
Obviously Cyber probably didn't want to sell at the time,
but we can see new owners come in, put new
people in charge and have new ideas.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
What what what?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
What's the timeline of the change in the Lakers organization?
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Yeah, Doug, to your point, I mean this is fluid,
but my early hunch from this is that if there
are going to be changes, this is more down the line.
So I would be surprised if there's any immediate changes
as soon as the sale is finalized. The most notable
is that it's been emphasized that Genie Boss's role as
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governor right now is still the same, and that means,
you know, managing the business side running that you know,
obviously she had to give approval when it came to
resources and signing players, but she mostly deferred to basketball operations.
So I expect that in the short term that's going
to be the same. They still have a minority stake
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now with that, I don't think anything's going to change
with Lebron James. He's expected to retire a Laker, even
if Mark Walter is a new owner. I don't think
that that'll change. Luka Doncic, I think based off of
his Twitter statement today where he expressed a lot of excite, mean,
it just reaffirmed that he's going to sign an extension
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once he's eligible in August. He didn't say it out loud,
but you connect the dots. I think the changes are
going to be more about how much resources they have
with filling out the rest of the roster, and if
there are front office changes to be made, could happen
down the line, but I don't think immedia. We have
to keep in mind a few things here. Rob Polinka
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was just assigned to an extension last April, so he
does have some legal room as well as the capital
with getting Luca. But you know, keep your eye out
on you know, does Magic Johnson get involved, Maybe not
the same level as basketball operations, but he has a
relationship with Mark Walter with the Dodgers. His time with
Polinka came to a very hasty end the first go round.
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And think of some accomplished front office people right now,
like Bob Myers, that may be available to be part
of that front office. But I think if any of
those changes happen, it's not immediate. It's down the line.
So my guess is that this summer it'll be about
Rob Polink in the existing front office doing what they
can to bolster the roster. Now, the last point I'll
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give you Doug here is even though Mark Walter has
more financial resources, as Jason Stewart JAYSU can attest, the
rules of baseball and basketball are different. It's not a
blank check. There's still second apron limitations. But I think
where the financial angle comes into is how much money
do to vote toward role players? And I think the
bigger thing is just the infrastructure with support, staff, analytics,
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front office, all those things.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Mark Beginaz our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio, what's the first domino to fall
in the offseason regards to trades?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Good question, it's going to be either Kevin Durant Jianna
Founte Decompo. I think both are dominoes. Let's start with
Kevin Durant. You know, I think that the fit is
most best for San Antonio or Houston, but I would
be surprised if either team picks that lane because they
have a good thing going with their young core. Even
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though Kevin Durant played as an elite level when healthy,
the question marks are his injury history an amount of
resources takes to get him. So I've said this on
the show before I affirm it. I truly think that
he's going to end up with Miami. That's going to
require Miami to budge a little with making Tyler Hero available.
But I think at the same time, Kevin Durant or
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the Phoenix Suns are not exactly in a position to
strike because there's a lot of teams that might still
be interested in Kevin Durant, but not enough to commit
to a deal because of what's required. Jannasnstekumpo, I know
what's being said Yiannis publicly, the Bucks publicly that neither
party wants to part ways, and you know, I think
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there's validity to what they're saying. I'm not saying I
don't believe it, but I think that's what's being reflected now.
As an analyst, I truly believe that it's a matter
of when, not if, this partnership ends, whether it's on
draft night or free agency, because of what's happened, three
consuctive first round losses, the questions on Damian Loward's health
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next season with his achilles injury, and just doesn't seem
like a sustainable model to just keep repeating and hoping
for a different result.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Awesome stuff. Mark, enjoy tonight's game.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
We'll see IF's the last NBA game of the year
as we get ready for next week's NBA Draft, or
maybe we're head to a game seven. Thanks so much
for being funky and enjoining us on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Doug, Chase, Danny, guys are the best.
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Speaker 3 (32:42):
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Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's Doug gott Leab Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
All Right, we got a bunch of things to get to,
including our picks for tonight's games. As we load those up,
let's unload news stories with Dan Buyer, Dan.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
The Press, Doug Tyrese Haliburton is expected to play tonight
for the Indiana Pacers. That's according to ESPN, despite that
calf injury and Game six of the Finals that tips
off at eight thirty Eastern.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
H Who do you think wins tonight?
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Pacers? I'm going with the Pacers. I think we'll have
a game. Stating on Sunday, Jase.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I'm gonna flip a coin and go thunder. Sam PACER's
gonna pace whatever that means.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I don't know what it means either.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I got the Pacers Tonight Game seven at pay Come
in Oklahoma City Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Emy Udoka got a contract extension from the Houston Rockets
today makes it one of the highest paid coaches in
the NBA. I apologize if if this was talked about
maybe on the pod that I didn't hear. But Bob
my is the former Warriors GM now on ESPN was
on Sirius XM talking with Frank I Sola and Brian
Scalabrini and they were talking about the Knicks request and
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what the other teams were doing. Here was Bob Meyer's
take on it.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Once they say to you, I.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
Want to talk to your I want to talk to
your coach, I'd be like, okay, before we like just
out of curiosity, like I'm probably gonna say no, but
what for what? And then and if they go, they go,
they go, well, you know we were hoping, And I'd
be like, no, no, no, you called for a guy's
under contract me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'm not telling you not to call call me.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
That's your job, Leon, I'm not upset.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
So what what for what?
Speaker 8 (34:39):
I'd be a little bit like, so you're gonna you're
kind of jacking up my own situation here.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Great call, and you're not offering anything.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
I'm like, because now the world knows you can't keep
anything quiet anymore. So now everyone knows you called on
my coach, So now my coach is going to come
in and want more money.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
So you better offer me.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Any thing about that, Doug.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I think that sounds great, but I don't they're under
no recourse to to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I thought, you know, somebody's going to say, well, because
of what happened in Boston, you know he shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
He shouldn't get this contract.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I again, what happened in Boston cost him the Celtics
job cost him in a Celtics job cost him his
first title. Even they played for one, they probably would
have played in another. So he he paid his penance,
took the year off.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Yeah, but this has nothing to do with Udoka, though
this has This is the second NBA head coach that
has gotten the contract extension because the Knicks were going
around the league wanting to talk to other coaches under contract.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Look, that's what happens in college basketball. Anytime a big
job opens up, everybody gets a new contract. Like that's
that's the business. And if you're if you're willing to
run the risk of the of losing them, then you
don't or you don't offer them extension.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
You go, hey, you're a guy. You got again.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
This is how business is done. When you have a
chance at leverage, you take advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
That's business. It's not personal.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I would, uh, I would call every coach in the
NBA to make them overpay their head coach. Sure than
if I had a vacancy.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
They're allowed to. You're allowed to some.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
A little bit of history quickly. Today in DC one,
all pitch to Wood.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
So you got a high fly ball center field, deep
back goes Hilliard to the warning track at the wall.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's gone, James, what doesn't.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
The long nightmare is over.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Let's win at four to three.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
Sit on the batter's high hill with a soaring home
run the straightaway center field.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
That's Radio Network on the call, Doug. According to Sarah Langs,
James Wood now has eleven home runs at one hundred
and ten miles per hour or more of this season,
tying sho Hey Otani for the most in Major League Baseball.
Old guys, plug your ears. That's new world stats.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Stats exit below exit v low Wood using the wood.
He's got a lot of wood, firm wood.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Speaking of home runs, Jack keg Leon his second for
the Royals today, first to win his career. Yes he
is the Royals lead in Texas and then Jack.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Press Press, Hey it can so, Dan and I and
Sam betting we'll have one more NBA game.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Maybe we won't. We'll cover tomorrow The Doug Outlube Show,
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(00:43):
Dodgers padres walk off home run by you know what
Chase do, I'm gonna give you credit and yeah, as
Dan can tell you, I do a bad job of
following up on some of your guys tweets because they're
really good. But as you pointed out to Chase du
there's lots of catchers that are good hitters. The difference
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to that the Dodgers catcher is he always plays catcher
as a quality hitter. Because Shoheyo Tani is the DH.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
There's a there aren't many catchers in the Hall of
Fame because catchers wear down because their production at the
plate inevitably wears down over the especially as as the
summer moves on and the heat ramps up. You need
to give your catcher's rest. But the problem is, if
you have a guy who's very productive, hitting like three
(01:35):
point thirty and driving in a bunch of runs, you're
gonna play him every day. The problem is Shohio Tani DHS.
He hogs the DH spot. He is immovable, and Will
Smith is a very productive hitter, so they have to
play him at catcher. And he's doing very well with
a walk off last night, and he should get more
credit for that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Love that we can do the more credit thing we'll
get for tonight's game. We'll give you a couple of
guys that should get more credit. We'll see with Tyre's
haliburt in game time decision. And I just again, I
have my own thoughts on that. But we do this
every Thursday. It's a way of talking sports but doing
the nostalgia thing.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
We call it. Don't call it throwback Thursday.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Dan Bayer.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
What do you have my friend, Doug, I'm not sure
if I can do this.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So I'm right Stewart.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, thanks Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
By the way, why does why why does Jason start it?
Why do you start it that way? Why is this
a you mean?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You mean? Thank you, Doug. I'll take it out here. Yes,
I'm glad you guys, as I'm glad you asked. Nobody's
asked me this. I don't know if he's still living.
Maybe uh Sam could google it and get it wrong.
Beware if the great Paul Moyer is still alive, it's
a tribute to Paul Moyer. Doug knows Paul Moyer. He
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was in this market in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
He was.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He was the greatest news anchor in the history of
Los Angeles. I think he was the first news anchor
to make a million dollars. He moved went fromn ABC
eyewitnessed news over to NBC and he was a six
o'clock news anchor. And Paul Moyer would start his newscast
every single night by taking the baton from the five
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o'clock anchor, and the five o'clock anchor would be mid sentence,
and they'd be for more of the coverage of the fire.
We'll thank you, Nancy. I'll take it from here, and
he would just cut her off and start the broadcast.
And because it's Paul Moyer, the news that you just
got at five is going to be more important and
it's going to be better because I'm delivering it to you.
(03:55):
I'm the news anchor that's going to give you the
best news. I'm the one making a million bucks. Thank you, Nancy.
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
According to the highly unreliable AI powered Google, Paul Moyer
is still alive.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He's eighty four years old. God bless him.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
He just turned eighty four on June thirteenth. According to
the highly unreliable Google.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Maybe he's listening right now, Hello, Paul Moyer, and I'll
take it from here. That's for you, Paul.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Have you ever googled someone from your past and then
their obituary came up and you're like, oh, my goodness,
they passed away, and then you realize that it was
somebody in Arkansas that was like sixty seven years old.
You're like, oh, okay, good like they didn't they didn't
pass away. Have you ever had that happen. It was
just someone with the same name, Yes, exact same name.
You're like, no, then you're like born in nineteen fifty one.
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You're like, oh, okay, all right, that has happened. Yeah,
all right, sorry, don't be.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You guys know what happened nine years ago today? No clue? Then, well,
the greatest rundown block in the history of NBA basketball happened.
Oh yeah, if that clue isn't enough. The Calves pulled
off the impossible. They completed their comeback of three game
down three games to one against the world beating Golden
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State Warriors won Game seven of the NBA Finals ninety
three to eighty nine. A lot of people give credit
to Lebron for that rundown block, but we all know
who the big star in that game was, Doug That's right,
Kyrie Irving made the Big three at the right time
nine years ago today. Amazing that it's been nine years.
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Do you think of all those Calves that won that championship.
Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson j R. Smith, Richard Jefferson was
on that team. You're gonna see him tonight on the broadcast.
Moe Williams Emon Schumpert, and this was the Warrior team
that had not added KD yet. In fact, it probably
prompted them adding Kevin Durant. If I'm not mistake nine
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years ago today, Dan, can you believe it? What do
you think about when you think about.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Thanks Jason, I'll take it from here. I think it's
one of the greatest. I actually think it's the greatest
NBA Finals of my lifetime that I can remember, and
there have been some good ones. Lakers Celtics won seven
games in twenty ten, but Game seven was just a
bricklaying fest. I think it's the greatest finals of my lifetime,
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which spans forty eight years, and the first NBA Finals
that I remember it was probably eighty five. I don't
know if it was eighty four eighty five, but it
was Celtics Lakers, because I remember in eighty six, I'm like,
what the Lakers aren't in it? It's the Rockets. But
if you go through history and you look at the
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one sided affairs or some that maybe were competitive but
didn't have as much star power, sorry Spurs, Pistons, but
this had everything. It had drama, it had plays, it
had the comeback, It had the new kids on the block,
it had the biggest star in the NBA. It went.
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It was just magnificent. And then to end the way
that it did and then changing the course of the history.
I think it's the greatest NBA Finals of my lifetime Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The least discussed part of it is that, in addition
to the suspension of Draymond Green, Andrew Boga got hurt,
didn't play in five six and seven or didn't play
beyond at the end of game five six and seven,
and just the incredibly underrated part of those early Warriors teams.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Sure he goes.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Down that series change traumatically. It's not an excuse for
the Warriors. It's an explanation.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Draymond obviously got suspended, and I also I think that
was a cumulative suspend. To remember that was when he
stepped over I think was Lebron James on the ground
right or somebody stepped over him and he jumped up
in punched him in the gonads. But that was the
playoff run where multiple times he gotten called for kicking
his leg out and hitting guys in their unmentionables, and
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finally he got suspended but Andrew Boga getting hurt to
me is the least discussed part of the Calves comeback,
because he's a great screener, a tremendous passer, played about
half the game and it changed the dynamics of that
series completely.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It's funny, Doug, you say this because I'm going to
transition to golf here, because I think when you look
back at what JJ spawn did this past Sunday, we're
going to look back and look at that putt on eighteen,
when in reality, it was his drive on seventeen that
won him the championship, because that was the hole that
allowed him to have the one shot lead, where all
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he had to do was two putt the eighteenth put
The putt that he made on eighteen was also aided
which I don't think we'll remember this in history by
Victor Holin having the same exact putt in showing him
the line prior. So I think that there's parallels. And
since we're speaking of golf, won a magnificent year. Twenty
sixteen was for golf. Sure, maybe you're thinking Danny Willett
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winning the Masters isn't the greatest thing in the world,
but then you have Dustin Johnson doing what he did
at Oakmont and striping his drive down the fairway at
eighteen and then striking his second shot just a few
feet from the hole, getting redemption from the previous year.
That was then followed up by you ready for this,
the Mickelson Henrik Stenson showdown at Troon. Golf played at
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the highest level those level. It was basically a two
man tournament. On the final day, Henrik Stenson ends up prevailing.
Then you had an early PGA Championship because the Olympics
made its golf debut, or golf made its debut in
the Olympics. You had Jimmy Walker winning at Baltus Wall
the Baltus Rowl in late July. And then you had
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Justin Was winning the gold medal at the Olympics. And
if that wasn't enough, the US won the Ryder Cup
that year at hazelteen in Minnesota, beating the Europeans, something
that had not happened very often. Their first win. Yeah,
after getting well, they actually won two thousand and eight,
and then they won again in twenty sixteen. So big
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year for golf in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Golf there what a year in sports. The Chicago Cubs
broke a one hundred and eight year championship drought by
beating the Indians in seven games. I think they were
down three to one in that series, weren't they Maybe Okay?
And now they've started on their one hundred and eight
year drought. They are nine years into their one hundred
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and eight year drought. Now, remember after that, Remember after
that World Series, the conversation was, Oh, this team's gonna
win a lot of these very young superstars. Chris Bryant, MVP.
Chris Bryant right now is collecting chucks from the Rockies.
But he's on a milk carton box and Denver, nobody
knows where the hell he is.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
And I'm I'm right now.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I'm playing Sorry to catch you off guard there, Jason
playing little Go Cubs Go, which Jonas knocks one of
our hosts here. He hates this song. He's a Cubs fan.
It's their rallying song. All right, back to your regular
schedule programming. Should we listen to the chorus real quick?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And I'm singing, Go Cubs Go?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
What do you say?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's nice? To those nice touch, thank you, thank you.
Uh Dan mentioned that the Olympics were that year. Do
you guys remember anything that happened from the Olympics. That's
something in Rio.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Daja Ryan Locktey didn't he get into some drama.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Oh yeah, that was.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
The That was the the convenience store bathroom Lockedy Gate, Yes,
where they said.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
They were robbed.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Good looking guy though right I picked the the US
men's national swimming team is one of my tea USA
is from a game recently. They had quite the run
there in Rio. But yes, Lockeddygate was where they went
to this convenience store in Brazil and they said they
were robbed and that turned out to like not be true.
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Instead they had like crashed a bathroom and tried to
cover that up.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So twenty sixteen in college football was about Clemson finally
not Clemsoning. All right, Lamar Jackson was your Heisman Trophy winner,
but Clemson winning a national championship, finally getting back since
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nineteen eighty right again, National championshi game was January nine,
twenty seventeen. But that was the story of sixteen. Was
the the Clemson Tigers, not Clemsoning.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
And that was Deshaun Watson hitting Hunter Renfro in the
last play of the game.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Not the baseball player.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
No, the football player. No, it look like Jalen Hurts
and Bama had at one. But not the case.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Right, If you were to say, in twenty sixteen, Doug
just brought up Lamar Jackson, you just brought up Deshaun Watson.
In nine years, Lamar Jackson will be one of the
highest paid quarterbacks in the history of the NFL. Deshaun
Watson would be the highest paid quarterback in the history
of the NFL. But one would be describably worse in
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reputation than the other. Sure, because even at the time,
I don't think Lamar was considered like a great pro
prospect quarterback Deshaun was. It didn't end up that way.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, Lamar that year they played at Clemson, he really
struggled the first half. Second half he played well and
it became a close game. But he had one more
year left to play, if I remember correctly, and again
up and down at Louisville, finished cut poorly in the
bowl game against Mississippi State.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But yeah, you're you're right.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
If you would have said these are the two highest
paid quarterbacks in the NFL at at a period of time,
going back to last year, that would attract if you
would have said that, of the guys who have been disgraced, Uh,
it's the quarterback at Clemson that his own coach called it,
Michael Jordan, and his personal life was beyond reproach. People
would have said, no way, you're you're you're lying. So yeah,
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it's it's fascinating what's happened to Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
That was also your favorite title game in or at
least ending in college hoops. Right, Chris Jenkins sixteen Bang
bang North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I mean, imagine hitting and and what's lost in it
was North Carolina hit a three, unbelievable three to tie it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Right, game was tied.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Marcus Page was Marcus Page double clutch three, Marcus p Yeah,
and Marcus Page hits it. Villanova calls time out and
they come down and run a play and Chris Jenkins
on a pitchback three hits it as the game expires,
And I mean, I don't know how if you're Jay
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Wright you maintain that level of composure, But the watching
the ball in the air and everything in your life
changes as it goes in and all you say is bang.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
That's how you know you're cool.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
It's cool, like you can't. That's cool.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I love how this entire segment has gone full circle.
You got the Oakmont, you got Lamar and DeShawn, You've
got Jay Wright, who would have known nine years later
he'd be turning down a Knicks team with three of
his former players. Amazing how the sports world works. But
I remember seeing a feature on Jay Wright and they
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said what are you listening to nowadays? And I was
surprised by his answer.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
It was this.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
This is Lose Yourself from Justin Bieber at top the
Billboard Charts for twenty sixteen off the album Purpose. Now,
for those music enthusiasts, you'd probably think Justin Bieber was
just a teeny bopper who appealed to one audience teenage girls.
No no, no, I would say Purpose was when he
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made the turn. Purpose was the album where he became
a reputable, respected artist. And he basically he went from
this album to becoming like very respected in the hip
hop community where he would do great features and he
would become like a hip hop artist for the next
nine years. Justin Bieber maybe this was the start of
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his third act, as I like to say, in his career.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Movies in twenty sixteen. Right, you guys know me The Accountant.
The Accountant was a big movie that year, so to
is Rogue one a Star Wars story. I liked Rogue one.
I liked those little tweetterers that started ended, and there
wasn't any any carryover from them.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I just watched Rogue one because we finished the second
season of and Or, which buttons up right to Rogue one.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And what I thought should have won best movie that
year is, without any question the best of the Marvel
or DC Comics movies.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's Deadpool.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And my argument behind Deadpool winning Movie of the Year was,
isn't it supposed to be the thing you like watching
the most?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Right? It was like Handmaid's Tale, Like, come on, dude,
Handmaid's Tale or Deadpool. Deadpool was hysterical.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It was a different way you know what they use meta, Right,
it's a different way of doing a superhero movie, and
they made fun of other superhero movies.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I thought it was hysterical.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well obviously, yeah, I think it's racist to say that
any Marvel movie other than Black Panther wasn't the greatest
of all time. But Deadpool reaches a different audience, right
that was the first rated Marvel movie.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Did not know that Wow? Wow Wow? And that is
don't call it a throwback Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's a Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Mark Ridina
is gonna join us in a couple of moments. But
before we get to that, let's get to Dan Byer.
We're getting ready for Game six tonight, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. So tonight's Game six. Obviously we don't
know about tyres Halburton. My guess is he tries to
(18:55):
give it a go and we'll see, you know what
type of explosiveness he has off of what's likely a
pulled calf muscle. And anyone who's ever pulled a muscle
or strained a muscle knows that even when it feels
right like you're like, oh, I'm good, you just you're
one year tentative and then two there usually is a point,
(19:16):
especially if you come back too soon, that it feels
like you pull the thing again. And the question I
would have is are you going to take a shot,
and you know, if you take a shot, well, then
if you take that shot, then I think it's really
(19:38):
really easy to feel like you're going to be fine
and you're going to play through it. But then in
game seven you'll probably be a wreck because of it,
because whatever you pull, if there's still a strain there,
you run the risk of tearing it and.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You're not going to feel that pain.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But it's not the machismo of sports, the machismo of
and it's just kind of the way I always thought
most guys are wired. I understand. I think Jay stew
maybe Sam. You guys asked me like, isn't that a
selfish thing to play when you're really hurt you're hurting
your team? Yeah, I mean you'd have to really really
(20:15):
be depleted in order to go, like, yeah, I can't go,
I'm gonna hurt my team. I think you go, and
then if you're hurting your team, it's.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
The coach's job deploya. That's my perspective, like did you
just go?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But you know it's one of those deals where you
can go in warm ups and you'll be fine, you know,
a polled calf you can play through a strained calf.
You can play through there's ways in which you can
kind of navigate it. It's going to hurt it, and
if it's torn torn, then there's nothing you can do.
But then you wouldn't be running. I know there's a
(20:56):
perception out there. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a
cast specialist Achilles specialist. There is a perception that the
Achilles was the precursor to Kevin durantz Achilles injury. I
don't believe that to actually be the case, but that
is part of why many people think you hold him
out of this game.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I do not, But if he can't play, I don't
think less of him. I think there's no way he
wouldn't want to play if he could play. It's just
they're watching him and like he can't run, he can't move.
You can't run, you can't move. It's a coach's decision
to go like, nah, you can't do it. If you
can run, you can move. Then you play him and
he's not playing effectively, then you pull him. That's the
(21:39):
way I look at it.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
It's different, too, Doug. If it's Andrew Nemhard, this has
no disrespect to Themhart who's been a key part of it.
But sure, this is Haliburton, you know, their leader of
their team, and if Nemhard can't go, you're like, okay,
we can, we can fill that void variety of ways.
(22:01):
In the forty eight minutes, there's really no filling his
absence of Halliburton. So then you're just you're up to
the decision, Like I don't think that Rick Carlisle can
pull him because I know they hung with Oklahoma City
with Halliburton not doing anything. That's just not a recipe
for success. You can't expect that. You can't expect TJ
(22:22):
McConnell to end up taking the load that he took
on in Game five to make up for what Halliburton
couldn't provide. Just doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Let's find out if Tyreus Halburton is going to play,
because again, I don't know if he knows all, but
he definitely knows more than we do. Mark Medina is
our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show, longtime NBA writer,
our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider, and the only NBA
insider to have his own theme song, Fucking I don't
(22:53):
think he's cold wherever he is. If he's in Oklahoma,
he's definitely not cold, or he's in Indiana, it's not cold.
It's hot today in the midwift.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
What's it like? Tyreus Haliburt in playsnight, Hey.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Doug will real quick, you don't mind me saying I
may not be part of an ownership group that just
sold a franchise for ten million dollars, but at least
I got the intro song of Yeah, Tyres Haliburt. I
think technically game time decision. From what Rick Carlisle says.
My hunches he's going to play because of the obvious
stakes elimination game NBA Finals. He wants to compete and
(23:25):
give them a chance to still salvage the series. But
I think he's going to be on a very very
tight leash, meaning maybe not a presetment ines restriction, but
Carlisle coaching staff, training staff will watch him very closely.
In any immediate signs of discomfort, they'll say, you know what,
we appreciate your service, but let's sit this one out.
(23:45):
But we'll see it's always full in these kind of situations.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, my guess is he gives it a go and
then it's up to Carlisle to pull him if he's being.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Ineffective exactly exactly, Yeah, give him, give him a chance
to compete, and you know, obviously defer to him because
he's a competitor, he knows his body as a star player.
It gives himselves the best chance to somehow still keep
this series alive. But if he's showing discomfort clearly making
the team worse, then they go to plan.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
V Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
have the what went so wrong for the Pacers in
Game five?
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Well, obviously, you know, as we allude to, Tyres Alburn,
wasn't the same player. It's not so much that he
went scoreless in the first half that was troublesome. He
wasn't aggressive, he was passing the ball a lot, and
you know, you can understand some of it, at least
how to do with his injury. But they also turned
the ball over a lot, twenty five turnovers and unlike
(24:45):
or twenty three, but unlike game one when they got
away with a lot of turnovers. A thunder defense really
create instant offense out of that. And then you add
up the fact that Jay Gouldis allixan or playing it
like an MVP. Jaywan Williams forty points, showing that he's
a much more consistent secondary score compared to last season
and has had a good bounce back record during these
(25:07):
playoffs for the ups and downs. So when you look
at the Thunder, there's just so much that's hard to stop.
And you also compound the fact that India is not
fully one hundred percent, even though they're resilient. They got
TJ McConnell, they got Pascal Siakam, They're a comeback team.
It's really tough sledding to go against a Thunder team
that's now planning their best basketball and just also have
(25:28):
a lot of Plan A, Plan B, Plan C options.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get
to that Lakers sale.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Why now? And when I say why now, obviously the
number is huge.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, but when you combine it with the Celtics, the Mavericks,
the Blazers, the Hornets, a lot of teams being sold
in the NBA, but you have the two most storied
franchises sold in the last twenty four months.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Why now?
Speaker 7 (25:59):
Yeah, there's a lot of turning points biggest turning point
is when Philip Danshud sold his twenty seven percent share
to Mark Walter in twenty twenty one. At the time,
you know, people, some that I talked to speculate, Okay,
there's a bigger playing here. Doesn't necessarily mean the Bus
family will sell, but Mark Walter has a lot of ambition.
So that was turning point number one. Turning point number
(26:20):
two is just what you alluded to. The franchise values skyrocketing,
whether it's the Dallas Mavericks with Mark Cuban selling his
majority share for six billion or three billion, the Celtics
going for six there is a time to sell high
right now because of the media rights deal, as well
as the fact that it's just more expensive to run
(26:41):
an operation in professional sports these days. And as you
have alluded to Doug on your show yesterday, Lakers or
mom and pop organization, they obviously historically have always said
they want to win championships. They spent on the stars,
it's the Lakers brand. But they're very economical, sometimes frugal
when it comes to retaining role players. How they pursue
(27:02):
head coaches, the resources they put in front office is
you know, analytic departments, support staff, et cetera. So I
think all those things perfectly aligned, as well as Luka
Doncis's acquisition last season, which made the franchise value story
even higher.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Okay, so what does this mean for JJ?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
What does this mean for Polinka? What does this mean
for Lebron? What does this mean for Luca? We can
sit here and go it means nothing. But look at
the Phoenix Sun another another another team that's been sold.
Obviously Cyber probably didn't want to sell at the time,
but we can see new owners come in, put new
people in charge and have new ideas.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
What what what?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
What's the timeline of the change in the Lakers organization?
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Yeah, Doug, to your point, I mean this is fluid,
but my early hunch from this is that if there
are going to be changes, this is more down the line.
So I would be surprised if there's any immediate changes
as soon as the sale is finalized. The most notable
is that it's been emphasized that Genie Boss's role as
(28:11):
governor right now is still the same, and that means,
you know, managing the business side running that you know,
obviously she had to give approval when it came to
resources and signing players, but she mostly deferred to basketball operations.
So I expect that in the short term that's going
to be the same. They still have a minority stake
(28:32):
now with that, I don't think anything's going to change
with Lebron James. He's expected to retire a Laker, even
if Mark Walter is a new owner. I don't think
that that'll change. Luka Doncic, I think based off of
his Twitter statement today where he expressed a lot of excite, mean,
it just reaffirmed that he's going to sign an extension
(28:53):
once he's eligible in August. He didn't say it out loud,
but you connect the dots. I think the changes are
going to be more about how much resources they have
with filling out the rest of the roster, and if
there are front office changes to be made, could happen
down the line, but I don't think immedia. We have
to keep in mind a few things here. Rob Polinka
(29:13):
was just assigned to an extension last April, so he
does have some legal room as well as the capital
with getting Luca. But you know, keep your eye out
on you know, does Magic Johnson get involved, Maybe not
the same level as basketball operations, but he has a
relationship with Mark Walter with the Dodgers. His time with
Polinka came to a very hasty end the first go round.
(29:38):
And think of some accomplished front office people right now,
like Bob Myers, that may be available to be part
of that front office. But I think if any of
those changes happen, it's not immediate. It's down the line.
So my guess is that this summer it'll be about
Rob Polink in the existing front office doing what they
can to bolster the roster. Now, the last point I'll
(30:01):
give you Doug here is even though Mark Walter has
more financial resources, as Jason Stewart JAYSU can attest, the
rules of baseball and basketball are different. It's not a
blank check. There's still second apron limitations. But I think
where the financial angle comes into is how much money
do to vote toward role players? And I think the
bigger thing is just the infrastructure with support, staff, analytics,
(30:26):
front office, all those things.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Mark Beginaz our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio, what's the first domino to fall
in the offseason regards to trades?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Good question, it's going to be either Kevin Durant Jianna
Founte Decompo. I think both are dominoes. Let's start with
Kevin Durant. You know, I think that the fit is
most best for San Antonio or Houston, but I would
be surprised if either team picks that lane because they
have a good thing going with their young core. Even
(30:59):
though Kevin Durant played as an elite level when healthy,
the question marks are his injury history an amount of
resources takes to get him. So I've said this on
the show before I affirm it. I truly think that
he's going to end up with Miami. That's going to
require Miami to budge a little with making Tyler Hero available.
But I think at the same time, Kevin Durant or
(31:21):
the Phoenix Suns are not exactly in a position to
strike because there's a lot of teams that might still
be interested in Kevin Durant, but not enough to commit
to a deal because of what's required. Jannasnstekumpo, I know
what's being said Yiannis publicly, the Bucks publicly that neither
party wants to part ways, and you know, I think
(31:41):
there's validity to what they're saying. I'm not saying I
don't believe it, but I think that's what's being reflected now.
As an analyst, I truly believe that it's a matter
of when, not if, this partnership ends, whether it's on
draft night or free agency, because of what's happened, three
consuctive first round losses, the questions on Damian Loward's health
(32:03):
next season with his achilles injury, and just doesn't seem
like a sustainable model to just keep repeating and hoping
for a different result.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Awesome stuff. Mark, enjoy tonight's game.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
We'll see IF's the last NBA game of the year
as we get ready for next week's NBA Draft, or
maybe we're head to a game seven. Thanks so much
for being funky and enjoining us on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Doug, Chase, Danny, guys are the best.
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Speaker 3 (32:42):
We'll discuss next.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
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Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's Doug gott Leab Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
All Right, we got a bunch of things to get to,
including our picks for tonight's games. As we load those up,
let's unload news stories with Dan Buyer, Dan.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
The Press, Doug Tyrese Haliburton is expected to play tonight
for the Indiana Pacers. That's according to ESPN, despite that
calf injury and Game six of the Finals that tips
off at eight thirty Eastern.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
H Who do you think wins tonight?
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Pacers? I'm going with the Pacers. I think we'll have
a game. Stating on Sunday, Jase.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I'm gonna flip a coin and go thunder. Sam PACER's
gonna pace whatever that means.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I don't know what it means either.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I got the Pacers Tonight Game seven at pay Come
in Oklahoma City Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Emy Udoka got a contract extension from the Houston Rockets
today makes it one of the highest paid coaches in
the NBA. I apologize if if this was talked about
maybe on the pod that I didn't hear. But Bob
my is the former Warriors GM now on ESPN was
on Sirius XM talking with Frank I Sola and Brian
Scalabrini and they were talking about the Knicks request and
(34:10):
what the other teams were doing. Here was Bob Meyer's
take on it.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Once they say to you, I.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
Want to talk to your I want to talk to
your coach, I'd be like, okay, before we like just
out of curiosity, like I'm probably gonna say no, but
what for what? And then and if they go, they go,
they go, well, you know we were hoping, And I'd
be like, no, no, no, you called for a guy's
under contract me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'm not telling you not to call call me.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
That's your job, Leon, I'm not upset.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
So what what for what?
Speaker 8 (34:39):
I'd be a little bit like, so you're gonna you're
kind of jacking up my own situation here.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Great call, and you're not offering anything.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
I'm like, because now the world knows you can't keep
anything quiet anymore. So now everyone knows you called on
my coach, So now my coach is going to come
in and want more money.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
So you better offer me.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Any thing about that, Doug.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I think that sounds great, but I don't they're under
no recourse to to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I thought, you know, somebody's going to say, well, because
of what happened in Boston, you know he shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
He shouldn't get this contract.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I again, what happened in Boston cost him the Celtics
job cost him in a Celtics job cost him his
first title. Even they played for one, they probably would
have played in another. So he he paid his penance,
took the year off.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Yeah, but this has nothing to do with Udoka, though
this has This is the second NBA head coach that
has gotten the contract extension because the Knicks were going
around the league wanting to talk to other coaches under contract.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Look, that's what happens in college basketball. Anytime a big
job opens up, everybody gets a new contract. Like that's
that's the business. And if you're if you're willing to
run the risk of the of losing them, then you
don't or you don't offer them extension.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
You go, hey, you're a guy. You got again.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
This is how business is done. When you have a
chance at leverage, you take advantage of it.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
That's business. It's not personal.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I would, uh, I would call every coach in the
NBA to make them overpay their head coach. Sure than
if I had a vacancy.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
They're allowed to. You're allowed to some.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
A little bit of history quickly. Today in DC one,
all pitch to Wood.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
So you got a high fly ball center field, deep
back goes Hilliard to the warning track at the wall.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
It's gone, James, what doesn't.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
The long nightmare is over.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Let's win at four to three.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
Sit on the batter's high hill with a soaring home
run the straightaway center field.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
That's Radio Network on the call, Doug. According to Sarah Langs,
James Wood now has eleven home runs at one hundred
and ten miles per hour or more of this season,
tying sho Hey Otani for the most in Major League Baseball.
Old guys, plug your ears. That's new world stats.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Stats exit below exit v low Wood using the wood.
He's got a lot of wood, firm wood.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Speaking of home runs, Jack keg Leon his second for
the Royals today, first to win his career. Yes he
is the Royals lead in Texas and then Jack.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Press Press, Hey it can so, Dan and I and
Sam betting we'll have one more NBA game.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Maybe we won't. We'll cover tomorrow The Doug Outlube Show,
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