July 31, 2025 • 38 mins
In this week's version of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday", Doug and the crew feature the year 2020. Doug welcomes former NFL quarterback and current commentator Danny Kanell onto the show to talk some college football. Plus, Chris Perfett takes Doug through "The Press".
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What it is Thursday? And you know people do the
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TBT on their Instagram and sometimes on their x accounts.
We do TBT a little bit differently here. We call it.
Don't call it throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
We're not calling a throwback, but we are looking back.
The year was two thousand and twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Jase do Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Thank you, Dog.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I'll take it from here, Doug. I'll take it from here. So.
I don't know if you saw in the news this week,
but I think the Athletic did an entire breakdown on this.
It's been five years since the NBA bubble. What is
the bubble? You say, Well, in twenty twenty, we experienced
(02:19):
a worldwide pandemic called COVID nineteen and sports didn't know
what the hell to do, so at some point somebody
came up with the idea of let's all go into
this very was it a clean environment. I don't even
know what the word is to call it, but yeah, Bubba,
(02:44):
let's call it the bubble. It's in Orlando, I want
to say. And let's play some presis season game Apcot Center,
wasn't it. Let's play some regular season games and then
we'll play some playoffs and it'll all be in this
one sequestered area where nobody's allowed inside. We're gonna play
with no fans. And of course the Lakers won the championship.
(03:06):
I remember most from that whole thing, Kyrie Irving encouraging
people not to go. You know the details better than
I do. Doug.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, Kyrie Ever hopped on a call and was like, yeah,
we we don't need to do anything for them, them
being the league basically trying to get guys to not
go to the bubble. And he did not go with
Kevin Durant, which is crazy and undermined Jock Vaughn, who
(03:36):
at the time was head coach of the Brooklyn Nets.
Now he's associated coach with with with Kansas. The bubble
thing is fascinating. Just that that whole year is going
to be studied for years and years to come. It
has changed how we work, changed how we'd live, change
how we value time time with family. I miss a
good I missed the the quote unquote lockdown time that time.
(04:01):
This is to your point, Jase Stu earlier, was it
did give you unfiltered time with your kids and what
anything going on.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
That was both a blessing and a curse though, Like
if you had to educate your children at home and
maybe they were like three four years old or seven
eight years old, they're probably driving you nuts and you
were miserable.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I think it came at just the right time in
our technology too, Like I don't think most people had
known what zoom is before the pandemic, and stead no
I knew it was now I've been like, yeah, my
grandmother is in a nursing home and we are facetiming
her or zooming with her like all the time. I
feel like that's kind of really standardized our idea of
just remote talking to people. It also started a lot
(04:43):
more work from home. Yeah, I mean I know I
had done some remote work and other jobs in the past,
but this definitely was the start of I think a
lot of people just deciding, Hey, why do I need
to drive an hour into the office that I can
do everything from here. As you said, it really changed
how we kind of went through our whole society.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
If we could go back to that sterile bubble for
a moment, the New Zealand, and not really that's sterile,
just considering how many guys kind of come in and out, Like,
wasn't James Harden at Magic City or something?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, one guy didn't one guy escape?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
It was like it was like the Great Escape, you know,
tunneling under the underground and popped up so he could
get out and go to Magic City. It was some
player that got busted for sneaking out to a strip club.
But I'd like to go back to this, uh, this
not sterile bubble. The New Zealander. Steven Adams, longtime NBA veteran.
I don't know how quotable he is, but I did
(05:35):
pull one drop from the pandemic and Steven Adams when
he was talking about the living arrangements.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
A bloody result, We're living in a bloody result. So
I love that because it's just his accent and bloody result.
I mean, we're living in a bloody resort. What are we?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
What are we doing here? So uh, that was one
little clip there from the great Steven Adams.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It's funny you mentioned that because I right before the
pandemic hit, right before we all started to really learned
what COVID nineteen was. I was actually in Vegas for
what I believe was when the last weekends everything on
the strip was open. My dad and I went to
the Belagio. We were seeing a couple shows over at
at Caesar's and like gambling on some it would have
been the college football basketball conference was I think it
(06:18):
was conference weekend. Yeah, everything was shut down.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Remember, like Fred Heuberg got like the flu, but it
was when everything was starting to shut down during conference tournaments, right,
and everybody thought Fred Heuberg had COVID, but he was
just really like just coming down with something on the
sidelines and looking all rough.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I was working with our friend Bernie Fratto, who does
a game who used to do a gambling show on
the weekend Frustrate out of Vegas, and like I remember
when the last thing on the Vegas boards was William
and Hill had a line for a sumo wrestling tournament
in Japan, which was being held behind closed doors. But
it was that important to the culture that it's like,
we have to have this also much like the bubble,
(06:55):
no spectators, but it was the last thing you could
bet on before there was a whole summer of sports whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'll tell you it's so funny. I have a friend
of mine who just texted me during the break was
the same person who was my boss when I was
doing games for the Big Ten Network and for Compass
Media Network. They did the radio games at the Big Ten.
I was on my way to Lax to fly to
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Chicago to do Big Ten games, and I'm in the
car pool lane and I have the autopilot on. It's
I got one hand on the wheel and I got
one hand on my phone, and the car is driving itself,
and I'm scrolling and my friend text means like, hey,
turn around. That was the text turnaround. So I'm sitting
(07:50):
there in a carpool lane in traffic and I'm turnaround
and I'm looking behind me, looking at my side. I
assumed assumed that she was behind me and saw my car.
We were getting on the same plane I'm like, I
texted back, I don't know where are you? I what
kind of car you in? I don't know what kind
of car you drive. I was like, no, turn around,
(08:11):
the Big Ten Tournament's been canceled, Like oh oh that
it's like like that joke of you know, uh, I
thought this is this had Disneyland left, so I went
home that that sort of joke.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I was so bummed out when the NCAA tournament was
canceled because Luca Garza he would go on to win
Player of the Year and the next year and the
COVID weird like no fans in the stands, but he
was having a heck of a season that year and
I was really excited to seeing him leave in the
first round the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
We were all sitting around watching Korean baseball in that
summertime because it was the only thing that was that
was going on. Nobody else had really figured out yet
how to hold like sports behind closed doors. That bubble
kind of came like as we were, you know, barreling down.
It had been it had been established a couple of times,
but like, yeah, it it was just it was surreal
(09:03):
watching all this stuff. No fans. They were talking about
trying to pump in crowd noise or cover the virtual
fans we had, like virtual fans for like NFL games
or something.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, I was like CGI fans. I was unemployed
for the first time. I got let go by Fox
Sports TV in the middle of the pandemic, and the
first job I got was a contract job for virtual fans,
so the people that you saw on the screen reacting
in real time at NFL games. I was a part
of that production. That was the most random job I've
(09:33):
ever had, and it's a job I can't return to
because that job doesn't exist. There's no more need for
virtual fans at games. I did.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
I think the athletics could really use some virtual fans
once they moved to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I have my my personal story. My second personal story
from twenty to twenty involved somebody we loved a lot
around here. So, uh, my boss is before I got
let go at Fox Sports one, right as the pandemic
was starting to really get serious. Okay, it's probably right
around the time, right before Rudy Gobert or whatever. We
(10:07):
get We get like an email from our bosses saying,
if you see of any anybody talent wise, if you
see any of our talent doing something they shouldn't or
something that's questionable, please let us know. We don't want
to allow talent into our building who may have been exposed.
And then I fire open my Instagram after reading this
(10:27):
this email, and Rob Parker is on the Golden Girls
cruise with his arm around a bunch of aged women.
So I feel if I do that, I felt the
need to escalate that quickly. He's on a cruise, Rob,
get COVID.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
It's all good, Ah, Rob, you thought Tom Brady was
the luckiest of all the time, I'm the luckiest of
all time. By the way, Rob Parker had his arm
around older women, like you know, Rob Parker is actually
sneaky old.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Did I knew that? But these were he was uh.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Girls, Rob loves Golden Girls.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
He was fraternizing with girls in their golden years.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I got it. But again, I don't think he's that
much younger than they are.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I mean, did I No, He's just he just holds
up very well.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's fine. I didn't get COVID.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
How old do you guys think Rob Parker is or
do you guys?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Look? I know how old rob Is and I'm not
going I'm going to be a gentleman. I'm not going
to disclose.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's he's a guy you can disclose.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
How what why are you doing this? His age is
on Wikipedia?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, he didn't turn he's sixty one, I think right,
he turned sixty last year.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Well there, you just gave it away. Now you now
you just aged him. You went you literally flipped.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well Chris Christ shouted at me, So Christmas.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Correct, But I mean you talk like no backbone jays
to like, I am not going to share what sixty old.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
J I'm the one who had no backbone there, jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No, but I'm I'm really I'm looking for j stew
for back aut No.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I agree, Sam, that was very questionable.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You waved the white flag quicker than the French in
World War Two.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
We're good, Get me started on that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I think that the crazy thing was like so as
the bubble started, I saw an interview with famed NBA
player Kevin Durant and they're like, Kevin, what are you
listening to right now on your Phone's what's the song
that's got your interest? And he said this and it
(12:35):
comes with a very sad story, good jam. This is
Maroon five memories. I don't know about you guys, but
I associate this song most with the funeral for Kobe Bryant.
They played this at the services, and of course in
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twenty twenty when we were all making our way to
the Super Bowl, I was at least I got the
news on the plane to Miami that Kobe had passed.
But I always remember this song. I was always associated
with Kobe and them playing at the funeral.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, I mean that was a tough, traumatic time, and
full disclosure. Living in Newport Beach, my daughter had gone
to school with Gigi and basically everybody in that plane,
and her best friend was on that plane, and it
was a hard, hard time. I ward time.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I was with Steve Hartman, Rich Ornberger, your former producer.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Getting the Dream, Living the Dream.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I was with your former producer Gavin Kinsell, former Update
anchor David Gaskin. We were all on the air doing
our Fox Red Zone radio show. When we got word
that Kobe had perished in a helicopter crash. It was
just it was just it was a different world we
were living in in that moment, and that was just
a strange heartbreaking way to start the COVID season. And
(14:04):
so we had we had Kobe kind of you know,
his death starting just sort of this you know year
of just you know, being up ended. I remember the
Big Ten season, like we were all they were trying
to figure out should we have this season? First it
was what canceled right then they're like, now we can't
cancel that, We'd lose so much money. So the Big
Ten started late. I think they played eight games. They're
supposed to, you know, play ten games.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Six Iowa started Western one all of them day is
up is down, day as night as white.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
But you know what you want it, so yes, up,
up is down, days night, black is white. Iowa under
Brian Farrence had the third best scoring offense in the
Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
This that year.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
They started out the Big Ten season the you know,
a shorter season oh to two, losing a couple of
weird games, and then they ripped off six straight wins
and they were just pounding people. And then they were
supposed to play Michigan and they're suppsed to play Missouri
and a bowl game, and then unfortunately those games got canceled.
But I look at that offense, it's just this weird,
I don't. I don't know if it's because there's nobody
in the stands, but they were just pummeling people. Also,
(15:04):
a lot of teams had COVID, Wisconsin, Penn State, all
kinds of disorder, so Iowa was just pouncing on them
right there. That was when the Brian Farrens offense actually worked.
It was a thing of beauty that if I didn't
have Iowa football that year, I would have been just
so much more depressed.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I think my greatest regret from that year sports wise
was I've been to two Olympics in my life, Atlanta
and Sydney. I want to go to more. I love
the Olympics, and I had wanted to go to Japan.
It was my dream to go to Tokyo twenty twenty.
I'd made a bunch of arrangements and COVID blasted them
all to smitherings. It was still going on, but honestly,
like I couldn't be there. There was no one there.
(15:41):
It took a lot of sale out of the Olympics
for me. And I was at home instead of in Japan,
and I was at home watching a bunch of movies
on streaming services because that's what we were doing instead
of the theaters too. It's like everyone got into movies
being streaming at that same time too.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, I remember Joe zat.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
For the Dodgers. The Dodgers win the World Series and
it was on during Halloween.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
I hate the Mickey Mouse talk from these years too,
like just Mickey Mouse Championships, all of that. I hate
that talk.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It just I think it's very different.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Sure, but I think we've had other shortened seasons as
well that just don't get the scene kind of screwtin me.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I feel I've another bloody result. I want to mention
one thing before we leave.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
So Ohio State ended up and Dan it's not gonna
let me bringing this up because it's probably not a
great memory for him. The Buckeyes, though, ended up, you know,
pulling away from Northwestern in the title game. They went
on to play an Alabama team thirteen to zero. They
played a full season pretty much. A lot of people
regard that Alabama team as being like Nick Saban's best
or one of his best, ended up pulling away from
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a very very good Ohio State Buckeyes team fifty two
to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And that is don't call it a cut, don't call
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Speaker 3 (17:00):
A throwback Thursday?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
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our guest. DK is a college football analyst. Of course,
he played at Florida State the nash Football League. Covers
it for a living as well. He got his own
radio show. You see him on TV. He does a
little bit of everything, Dave, Let's start with arch Manning.
I kind of feel like he's the only player that
everybody knows about in college football, right, Like he's the guy.
(18:29):
And especially with transfer portal guys moving here or there,
what do you think of him as a player? Like,
how good is he actually from your perspective?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Boy, that's the million dollar question. I don't think there's
been a player in college football that I can remember.
I mean, maybe Tim Tebow, but even that hype wasn't
at this level that it is with Arch Manning. I mean,
I think Lebron James maybe coming out of high school
when he had a cover of sports illustrators had this
much hype as like a young player, but he's obviously
(18:58):
skipped college. But he's he's got the skill set. I mean,
I get why there's a lot of you know, it
goes past the name. It's not just his uncles and
his dad, who was a great player before he hurt
his back. It really is the flashes that we've seen
as a young player because he didn't get to start
a couple games last year, came in even in relief
a couple times of quinn ewers last year. We saw
(19:21):
him with a mobility that we didn't see from Eli
or Payton like. So that's exciting. But he looks like
the total package. But we truly don't know how he's
going to be like under that cauldron of because it's
a whole other level. Like everyone loved the young talented backup,
even if your name isn't arch Banding, even if you're
just a five star, and you never know how somebody's
going to respond on the bright lights under pressure, and
(19:42):
boy are they going to be pretty bright that open
air opener when he plays in Columbus at the Shoe.
I think he'll be good. I think it might take
some time. Like I think it could be a little
bit bumpy, but I mean bumpy means maybe they're only
ten and two as opposed to twelve and oho. That's
because he's got so much supporting town like Texas has
got to a spot where their roster is so stacked.
(20:04):
Even when they lose players, they're plugging in new ones.
So I don't expect Arch to be a total bust.
I think it just depends on how much do you
think Texas is going to do this year? Probably hinges
on whether he's a superstar in year one or year two,
which I think is probably the more likely scenario.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Uh Klen de Boor, what is what does Alabama look
like this year?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
They've got a really good defense, So that's the thing.
I think Alabama's kind of flying into the radar like
they had a blow stand, you know, blow their standard
blow in Nick saban standard last year. They lost their
bowl game to Michigan, so they got this bad taste
in their mouth. But they also have a quarterback that
I think is going to fit what Kaitlyn de Boor
wants to do at Alabama. Jalen Molro as good as
(20:47):
he was as a college quarterback, and we did see
him get drafted in the third round. I thought he
had some limitations in the passing game really with the
pocket passing stuff. He was really good at the deep ball.
He was an electric runner, but he was very in
consistent in the mid range passing game. I think they're
going to go with ty Simpson, who's been there for
three years. He's been in quarterback battles. I actually appreciate
(21:08):
that he's stuck around and kind of waited for this opportunity.
But I think he's going to be somebody you'll feel
a little bit more of a traditional passer. They have
Ryan Williams too, who I know everyone once talking about
Jeremiah Smith, the unbelievable receiver at Ohio State, but last
year he and Alabama's Ryan Williams, who was another true freshman,
will kind of go in toe to toe with highlight
real plays. I think he's going to be better. They've
(21:29):
got a couple other wide receivers there that are pretty talented,
So I think they're going to get better quarterback next season.
And if their defenses is good what most people think
it's going to be, they're going to be contending for
the SEC championship once again. And Calen de Moore better hope.
So because the word and I talk to a lot
of people in Tuscaloosa that if they don't make the playoffs,
he's going to be on the hot seat already, which
(21:50):
is kind of crazy, but that's the Alabama standard.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah it is. James Franklin has done a great job
at Vanderbilt, a great job Penn State with reception of
when you play people that actually matter, right yep. And
at Vandy you could go, hey, they're Vandy, You're not
supposed to beat the big boys. But at Penn State
it's different. Huge expectations for his team. Can they live
up to them?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I think they can, Like I've really been impressed. You
mentioned against top five teams at Penn State, James Franklin
is one in fifteen. He only has one win over
a top five opponent and that was Ohio State back
in twenty sixteen. He's come up short. Even last year,
as good as they went, they won a couple of
playoff games, they did not get that top five win.
Like they're still looking for it. So but the thing
(22:35):
that I like about him is I think there's a
commonality with the last two national champions. Michigan won it
two years ago, Ohio State won it last year, and
there was almost a team mantra, like you saw guys
pass up the NFL to come back just to win
a national championship. And that's what they have. They've got
both running back Cathron Allen and Nick Singleton both could
(22:56):
have gone to the NFL. They decided to come back. Center.
Who's a really great, you know, offensive lineman, Nick Dawkins.
He's actually Darryl Dawkins's son, the Chocolate Thunder. That's his
son that's still playing. And he's he's he came back.
He could have done the NFL. So you got an
offensive line. Drew Aller is a young quarterback, and I
really think that Drew Aller probably has maybe more pressure
(23:19):
on him than even James Franklin because he's been really good,
but on the biggest stages he's come up short, like
he's just kind of come up flat. If you go
back to that playoff game against Notre Dame, did not
compete complete one pass to a wide receiver, and you know,
the fourth quarter drive, they put it on his shoulders
with a minute to go and he throws an interception.
Notre Dame kicks a field goal and the game's over.
(23:41):
So he's got a ton of pressure on him, but
I talked to all of them. I talked to all
these players last week in Las Vegas. They don't seem
overwhelmed by the pressure. It's more of a challenge for them.
And the thing that I love hearing from James Franklin
is like, this is where most programs wish they could be.
Where you're getting pressure to win a national championship like
ten and two isn't good enough. I think that's probably
(24:02):
the proper mindset, and I think they're like, I love
their mindset. I think they're confident. I think they've got
a veteran team, so I do think they're boys to
sort of break that curse versus the best opponents they face.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Tridio. Danny Canell
is our guest, d Q. Let's we've done a lot
of the South right, We've done some Penn State. What
about Lincoln Riley and USC. First year, obviously they flipped
that thing around. Second year became a lot of disappointment,
(24:36):
and you know, now he's had a lot of staff
turnover as well. What do the Trojans look like?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So they're a team another team I think that's kind
of flying under the radar, Like you know, either it's
Ohio State to repeat, it's Penn State, maybe even Oregon
to go back to back in the Big Ten title,
even though they ask some questions. But USC is a
program that I think the pressure is starting to build
for Lincoln Riley, and you mentioned it, he fired his
strength coach like late this offseason. I think he saw
(25:02):
a deficiency there really in toughness. And you know, the
strength coach is arguably the most important position on a
college football stat staff, especially because you're dealing with young players.
I don't know about you, but like from the time
I was eighteen to twenty two was just a massive
like maturity strength building time when your body really starts
to take shape as an adult, and if you maximize that,
(25:25):
that's when you can get the most out of your team.
And they just have fallen short in that area. A
little bit curious what they did at quarterbacks. So last
year they had Miller Moss and then they benched him
for Jade Mayeva, who was a transfer that came in,
and Lincoln Riley felt good enough about Maeva that he
did not hit the portal. He didn't go out and
try to sign one of the bigger names that was
available in the portal. So he feels pretty good about it.
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And they do have a lot of players returning on
the defensive side of the ball, and they were so
here's and I asked Lincoln Roley this last week because
they were close last year and that's the worst thing
that any fan base wants to hear, right, you don't
want to hear your team is close, want to hear excuses.
But they really were. They had a ton of one
possession games. Penn State comes to mind. They're playing at
the coliseum at home. They have that game, you know,
(26:09):
within a possession, they end up giving it up, losing
overtime to Penn State. Notre Dame is another one couple
pick sixes in that game, totally flips like on a dime.
So I think this is a team that is close,
but nobody wants to hear about close, and it's got
to be about the results for Lincoln Riley and USC.
But I do think the Big ten is so like
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after you get past the top three teams, which really
are Ohio State, Penn State, and Oregon Michigan right behind there.
But I feel like USC should be right in that
conversation is sort of the next man up, and I
do think that being the case, they should be in
that conversation for the playoffs late. And if they're not,
it's another team where I think USC is gonna have
some serious soul search and do what to do at
(26:51):
the head coaching position. I know he's probably got a
massive buyout because it was a super you know, a
super high price tag that Lincoln Riley came with. But
I do think is a critical year that Lincoln Riley's
got to step forward and take this program right back
towards the top of the Big ten.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Stutt Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Tradier Danny Caneo
as our guest. We haven't mentioned any Big twelve teams right,
and Arizona State came from nowhere to somewhere in the
Big twelve miles Mount Oaklama State beats Arkansas, then completely
falls apart, becomes discombobulated. It's a league that before the
(27:27):
season last year, could have gotten two teams locked in
to the playoff, didn't roll the dice and that turned
out to backfire. What do you think with the Big
Twelve this year?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I do so.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Brett Yormark, their commissioner. He loves selling the conference as
the deepest conference in college football, which is I think
it's both a blessing and a curse because you're almost
better served to have one great team and like ACC
might be in a better position because Clenson's a heavy favorite.
They're almost a lock to make the College Football Playoff
(27:58):
and they should be eleven and one or ten and two.
And in that conversation, the Big Twelve is extremely competitive,
but there's not a lot of separation between the top
team and probably the tenth or eleventh team. You know,
there's just a like in it. But even as I
say that, last year, Arizona State was predicted to finish
last and they were supposed to have four and a
half wins, and they go out and win the whole thing.
(28:20):
That's the type of conference it is. I think it's
extremely wide open. They've got probably the most interesting case
study though, in Texas Tech. Because Texas Tech, and I'm
sure you've talked about the story, They've got a booster
out there, Cody Campbell, who played at Texas Tech as
an offensive lineman. He's a young billionaire. He's only in
his forties and he's basically been the te Boone Pickens
(28:40):
or the Phil Knight of you know, famous boosters who
really helped put their programs on the map or put
them back in position for a national championship. They've bought
the best roster in the Big Twelve this offseason. They
have the top portal class in the country, and a
lot of it's on the defensive side of the ball.
But we haven't seen that berimout. You know, just work.
(29:01):
And we see it in baseball, where the highest spending
team doesn't always win. Sometimes they do. But in a
sport like football, it's such a continuity game where you
want chemistry and you want players all doing the same thing,
and execution is so important. With eleven guys, you know,
not one can screw up that. Can they do this
in one year? And the good news is they weren't
(29:21):
awful last year. They were pretty good at eight wins.
But can they push through? And if they do, I
think it could encourage other billionaire boosters. There aren't many
of them to follow the same suit, so it's a
ton of pressure on their head. Coach Joy maguire, But
it's a very interesting case study. But it's filled with teams.
Arizona State I think is going to be right there again. Utah,
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who had a bad first year in the Big twelve
after moving from the PAC twelve. I think they could
be right towards the top. They were at the top
of the pack twelve before they left there. Kansas State failure.
I mean there are legitimately five to six teams that
can make a case for and say yep, I could
see them winning and even saying that it might be
a team that I don't even give you because it is.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That wide open, awesome stuff. Tq DK. Can't wait to
see you on the TV. Love talking football with you.
Let's do it again, really really soon. Thanks for our guest.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
You got it dog. You great catching up all right?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
That's Danny Canell. Good guy, good friend and obviously quarterback
at Florida State in the Nation Football League. He joins
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what do you got up all?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Man?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Well, we got a huge MLB trade deadline right now.
I've been talking about it on these updates for the
last couple of hours. Still about I would say two
hours to go? Do you have any thoughts on some
of the big ones. I mean, just just go over
some of the top names. Carlos care is going back
to the Astros, but the Dodgers are picking There's a
lot of moving parts as far as pictures right now.
I know the Dodgers picked up Brock Stewart from the Twins.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
There's a problem with the Dodgers where he he's never
heard of these guys.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Well, I was just in the back, and I think
uh Brie, one of our sound editors, was kind of
bereft for what the Dodgers had given up to get Hire,
get him.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
But yeah, but A J.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Peler seems to be aggressive. I know, I don't know
how far back the Padres are right now, but they
have made it like five movie B E aggressive.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
A B E A G A G G R E
S E S S I V E aggressive b E aggressive.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
It just feels like this trade deadline in particular, I've
seen a lot of teams a lot more aggressive than
they've usually been.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, that's because there's more teams involved that can make
the playoffs right. That's the whole idea of expanding the
playoffs is what more teams think they got a chance.
More you get a chance, more you're around, more people
putting it in the stadiumre people put in the state,
the more money you make.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I think the Astros have officially told the sports world
they no longer give a crop about that reputation they
have as cheaters. I remember a part of them allowing
Carlos Carrea to go off into that wild free agency
that he did was kind of a that's one person
less that is going to be associated with that twenty
(33:15):
seventeen team. Sure, ol Twove's been there the whole time.
I was caught heckling him at a game. Recently, al
Twove has been the one guy. And then they bring
back Korea and they're like, screw it. So that gives
me one more player to hate on that team this year.
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Just like serious question, is Carlos Korea any good anymore?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Not? Really? No, he hasn't been close to what he
was when he was last an Astro.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, when he knew what pitches were coming, he was
really good.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, when he knew the pitches. That makes it easier,
it really does. But no, that's hey.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
You know when I have when I have the questions
to the test, I'm way better at tests.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
He's right now batting two sixty seven right now with
a OPS of seven oh four.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Here's the problem with what you did. You went from
like batting average, which is like old school stats, to OPS,
which is fairly new schooling.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
And I I feel like there's a lot of stats.
There are a lot more new new schoolly than ops though,
And I think that's my trouble, Like, look, I'm more
of a football guy. I feel like OPS slugging on
base percentage does almost feel like middle aged stats now
because you know there's a lot more status.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You're right they are, But again, you have to give context.
If you say, what's he what's his OPS?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Zero point seven oh four?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay, do you know what most people will driving around think, Chris,
I know that's just numbers. Does that sound good? Is
that good? That sounds good to me?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So it's not. It's not great. It's not great, Bobs,
that is it bad?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Is it good?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I don't know. Well, just just for you say like
he's one of the top ten players in OPS, you
say he's one of the bottom ten players OPS average
sixty seven, and we're like, well, I don't know that
that doesn't sound great. It's batting average. But there are
to sixty seven that we considered to be great players.
Why because they're on base all the time, you know,
or they hit a ton of home runs. So the
(35:08):
people you think, if you're going to provide some form
of new eight, the old statistics don't work because nobody
cares about him anymore except for home runs more than RBI.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Just for a gat new ones.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Go ahead, take it, Doug.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I'll take it from here. Okay, if you if you
hit over eight hundred ops, that's above average. The elite
players Aaron Judge, Shohey et over one thousand. Yeah, so
seven hundred to eight hundred is like average mid mediocre.
He's a mediocre player who makes a lot more than
(35:41):
he should.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Is he mid?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Or is he sus sus?
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I think sus like you were talking about. When he
knew what pitches were coming, he was like a nine
hundred ops.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, well he used to be a star. Now he's
just a guy.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Yeah, just a guy's a jag all right.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Speaking of guys out there, John Harbaugh had a lot
of praise for his quarterback Lamar Jackson. We're getting into
that time of the year, We're starting to get a
lot of hype and getting a lot of teams. But
John was very aggressive with his praise. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Well, there's so many things, and Lamar is a person.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Obviously I appreciate the most, the leader of the person,
the genuine human being that he is, and I just
I love him as a as a person. But I
think from a football standpoint, just go to the most basic,
simple thing. Lamar is a passer. He is a historically
good passer. And that's really quite a statement because of
the of the narrative that's been surrounding him ever since
(36:31):
the beginning. Lamar Jackson can throw the football. He can
throw it every kind of way you make, every kind
of throw, any kind of way you want. He's as
good as any guy, any pastor that has ever been.
And I think now the numbers are proven that. So
that's the thing I'm kind of a little bit proud of,
but also a little bit like, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
What have we learned from that?
Speaker 6 (36:47):
You know, you can take a big picture, you can
say from a society standpoint, football standpoint, what have we
learned from that? What kind of question do we ask ourselves?
But Mar Jackson as a passer is historically great, No,
he's not.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I mean, if he is, then he's a choke artist
in the playoffs. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
I just don't think that that reputation is not there
yet at all for Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Might never be all let me, let me help you
out here. Okay, so here's the falloff last like his
in the regular season. In the regular season, forty one touchdowns,
four interceptions. That's unbelievable. So he's right in that context,
that was Lamar Jackson last year should have been the
MVP in eight career playoff games. That's half of a season. Okay,
(37:37):
they're three and five. Can't put it all on him.
Seventeen hundred yards passing, it's fine, right, it's like thirty
five hundred yards. That's below average. Grated Weather's worse. Ten touchdowns,
seven interceptions. He's also fumbled the ball seven times in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So either he's just a choke artist and not good
in the playoffs. I don't think that's the case, or
in the playoffs people try and make him beat him
with his arm and that's not what he does best.
I think Lamar Jackson is great. I think there's a
he's not as bad a passer. And by the way,
when people said he wasn't a good passer coming out,
myself included He's proved a lot of it wrong. But
no one's like he couldn't throw a football. It was
(38:14):
for the NFL to be a.
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We do TBT a little bit differently here. We call it.
Don't call it throwback Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
We're not calling a throwback, but we are looking back.
The year was two thousand and twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Jase do Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Thank you, Dog.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I'll take it from here, Doug. I'll take it from here. So.
I don't know if you saw in the news this week,
but I think the Athletic did an entire breakdown on this.
It's been five years since the NBA bubble. What is
the bubble? You say, Well, in twenty twenty, we experienced
(02:19):
a worldwide pandemic called COVID nineteen and sports didn't know
what the hell to do, so at some point somebody
came up with the idea of let's all go into
this very was it a clean environment. I don't even
know what the word is to call it, but yeah, Bubba,
(02:44):
let's call it the bubble. It's in Orlando, I want
to say. And let's play some presis season game Apcot Center,
wasn't it. Let's play some regular season games and then
we'll play some playoffs and it'll all be in this
one sequestered area where nobody's allowed inside. We're gonna play
with no fans. And of course the Lakers won the championship.
(03:06):
I remember most from that whole thing, Kyrie Irving encouraging
people not to go. You know the details better than
I do. Doug.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, Kyrie Ever hopped on a call and was like, yeah,
we we don't need to do anything for them, them
being the league basically trying to get guys to not
go to the bubble. And he did not go with
Kevin Durant, which is crazy and undermined Jock Vaughn, who
(03:36):
at the time was head coach of the Brooklyn Nets.
Now he's associated coach with with with Kansas. The bubble
thing is fascinating. Just that that whole year is going
to be studied for years and years to come. It
has changed how we work, changed how we'd live, change
how we value time time with family. I miss a
good I missed the the quote unquote lockdown time that time.
(04:01):
This is to your point, Jase Stu earlier, was it
did give you unfiltered time with your kids and what
anything going on.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
That was both a blessing and a curse though, Like
if you had to educate your children at home and
maybe they were like three four years old or seven
eight years old, they're probably driving you nuts and you
were miserable.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I think it came at just the right time in
our technology too, Like I don't think most people had
known what zoom is before the pandemic, and stead no
I knew it was now I've been like, yeah, my
grandmother is in a nursing home and we are facetiming
her or zooming with her like all the time. I
feel like that's kind of really standardized our idea of
just remote talking to people. It also started a lot
(04:43):
more work from home. Yeah, I mean I know I
had done some remote work and other jobs in the past,
but this definitely was the start of I think a
lot of people just deciding, Hey, why do I need
to drive an hour into the office that I can
do everything from here. As you said, it really changed
how we kind of went through our whole society.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
If we could go back to that sterile bubble for
a moment, the New Zealand, and not really that's sterile,
just considering how many guys kind of come in and out, Like,
wasn't James Harden at Magic City or something?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, one guy didn't one guy escape?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
It was like it was like the Great Escape, you know,
tunneling under the underground and popped up so he could
get out and go to Magic City. It was some
player that got busted for sneaking out to a strip club.
But I'd like to go back to this, uh, this
not sterile bubble. The New Zealander. Steven Adams, longtime NBA veteran.
I don't know how quotable he is, but I did
(05:35):
pull one drop from the pandemic and Steven Adams when
he was talking about the living arrangements.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
A bloody result, We're living in a bloody result. So
I love that because it's just his accent and bloody result.
I mean, we're living in a bloody resort. What are we?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
What are we doing here? So uh, that was one
little clip there from the great Steven Adams.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It's funny you mentioned that because I right before the
pandemic hit, right before we all started to really learned
what COVID nineteen was. I was actually in Vegas for
what I believe was when the last weekends everything on
the strip was open. My dad and I went to
the Belagio. We were seeing a couple shows over at
at Caesar's and like gambling on some it would have
been the college football basketball conference was I think it
(06:18):
was conference weekend. Yeah, everything was shut down.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Remember, like Fred Heuberg got like the flu, but it
was when everything was starting to shut down during conference tournaments, right,
and everybody thought Fred Heuberg had COVID, but he was
just really like just coming down with something on the
sidelines and looking all rough.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I was working with our friend Bernie Fratto, who does
a game who used to do a gambling show on
the weekend Frustrate out of Vegas, and like I remember
when the last thing on the Vegas boards was William
and Hill had a line for a sumo wrestling tournament
in Japan, which was being held behind closed doors. But
it was that important to the culture that it's like,
we have to have this also much like the bubble,
(06:55):
no spectators, but it was the last thing you could
bet on before there was a whole summer of sports whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'll tell you it's so funny. I have a friend
of mine who just texted me during the break was
the same person who was my boss when I was
doing games for the Big Ten Network and for Compass
Media Network. They did the radio games at the Big Ten.
I was on my way to Lax to fly to
(07:26):
Chicago to do Big Ten games, and I'm in the
car pool lane and I have the autopilot on. It's
I got one hand on the wheel and I got
one hand on my phone, and the car is driving itself,
and I'm scrolling and my friend text means like, hey,
turn around. That was the text turnaround. So I'm sitting
(07:50):
there in a carpool lane in traffic and I'm turnaround
and I'm looking behind me, looking at my side. I
assumed assumed that she was behind me and saw my car.
We were getting on the same plane I'm like, I
texted back, I don't know where are you? I what
kind of car you in? I don't know what kind
of car you drive. I was like, no, turn around,
(08:11):
the Big Ten Tournament's been canceled, Like oh oh that
it's like like that joke of you know, uh, I
thought this is this had Disneyland left, so I went
home that that sort of joke.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I was so bummed out when the NCAA tournament was
canceled because Luca Garza he would go on to win
Player of the Year and the next year and the
COVID weird like no fans in the stands, but he
was having a heck of a season that year and
I was really excited to seeing him leave in the
first round the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
We were all sitting around watching Korean baseball in that
summertime because it was the only thing that was that
was going on. Nobody else had really figured out yet
how to hold like sports behind closed doors. That bubble
kind of came like as we were, you know, barreling down.
It had been it had been established a couple of times,
but like, yeah, it it was just it was surreal
(09:03):
watching all this stuff. No fans. They were talking about
trying to pump in crowd noise or cover the virtual
fans we had, like virtual fans for like NFL games
or something.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, I was like CGI fans. I was unemployed
for the first time. I got let go by Fox
Sports TV in the middle of the pandemic, and the
first job I got was a contract job for virtual fans,
so the people that you saw on the screen reacting
in real time at NFL games. I was a part
of that production. That was the most random job I've
(09:33):
ever had, and it's a job I can't return to
because that job doesn't exist. There's no more need for
virtual fans at games. I did.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
I think the athletics could really use some virtual fans
once they moved to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I have my my personal story. My second personal story
from twenty to twenty involved somebody we loved a lot
around here. So, uh, my boss is before I got
let go at Fox Sports one, right as the pandemic
was starting to really get serious. Okay, it's probably right
around the time, right before Rudy Gobert or whatever. We
(10:07):
get We get like an email from our bosses saying,
if you see of any anybody talent wise, if you
see any of our talent doing something they shouldn't or
something that's questionable, please let us know. We don't want
to allow talent into our building who may have been exposed.
And then I fire open my Instagram after reading this
(10:27):
this email, and Rob Parker is on the Golden Girls
cruise with his arm around a bunch of aged women.
So I feel if I do that, I felt the
need to escalate that quickly. He's on a cruise, Rob,
get COVID.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
It's all good, Ah, Rob, you thought Tom Brady was
the luckiest of all the time, I'm the luckiest of
all time. By the way, Rob Parker had his arm
around older women, like you know, Rob Parker is actually
sneaky old.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Did I knew that? But these were he was uh.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Girls, Rob loves Golden Girls.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
He was fraternizing with girls in their golden years.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I got it. But again, I don't think he's that
much younger than they are.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
I mean, did I No, He's just he just holds
up very well.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's fine. I didn't get COVID.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
How old do you guys think Rob Parker is or
do you guys?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Look? I know how old rob Is and I'm not
going I'm going to be a gentleman. I'm not going
to disclose.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's he's a guy you can disclose.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
How what why are you doing this? His age is
on Wikipedia?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah, he didn't turn he's sixty one, I think right,
he turned sixty last year.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Well there, you just gave it away. Now you now
you just aged him. You went you literally flipped.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well Chris Christ shouted at me, So Christmas.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Correct, But I mean you talk like no backbone jays
to like, I am not going to share what sixty old.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
J I'm the one who had no backbone there, jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No, but I'm I'm really I'm looking for j stew
for back aut No.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I agree, Sam, that was very questionable.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You waved the white flag quicker than the French in
World War Two.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
We're good, Get me started on that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I think that the crazy thing was like so as
the bubble started, I saw an interview with famed NBA
player Kevin Durant and they're like, Kevin, what are you
listening to right now on your Phone's what's the song
that's got your interest? And he said this and it
(12:35):
comes with a very sad story, good jam. This is
Maroon five memories. I don't know about you guys, but
I associate this song most with the funeral for Kobe Bryant.
They played this at the services, and of course in
(12:55):
twenty twenty when we were all making our way to
the Super Bowl, I was at least I got the
news on the plane to Miami that Kobe had passed.
But I always remember this song. I was always associated
with Kobe and them playing at the funeral.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, I mean that was a tough, traumatic time, and
full disclosure. Living in Newport Beach, my daughter had gone
to school with Gigi and basically everybody in that plane,
and her best friend was on that plane, and it
was a hard, hard time. I ward time.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
I was with Steve Hartman, Rich Ornberger, your former producer.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Getting the Dream, Living the Dream.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I was with your former producer Gavin Kinsell, former Update
anchor David Gaskin. We were all on the air doing
our Fox Red Zone radio show. When we got word
that Kobe had perished in a helicopter crash. It was
just it was just it was a different world we
were living in in that moment, and that was just
a strange heartbreaking way to start the COVID season. And
(14:04):
so we had we had Kobe kind of you know,
his death starting just sort of this you know year
of just you know, being up ended. I remember the
Big Ten season, like we were all they were trying
to figure out should we have this season? First it
was what canceled right then they're like, now we can't
cancel that, We'd lose so much money. So the Big
Ten started late. I think they played eight games. They're
supposed to, you know, play ten games.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Six Iowa started Western one all of them day is
up is down, day as night as white.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
But you know what you want it, so yes, up,
up is down, days night, black is white. Iowa under
Brian Farrence had the third best scoring offense in the
Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
This that year.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
They started out the Big Ten season the you know,
a shorter season oh to two, losing a couple of
weird games, and then they ripped off six straight wins
and they were just pounding people. And then they were
supposed to play Michigan and they're suppsed to play Missouri
and a bowl game, and then unfortunately those games got canceled.
But I look at that offense, it's just this weird,
I don't. I don't know if it's because there's nobody
in the stands, but they were just pummeling people. Also,
(15:04):
a lot of teams had COVID, Wisconsin, Penn State, all
kinds of disorder, so Iowa was just pouncing on them
right there. That was when the Brian Farrens offense actually worked.
It was a thing of beauty that if I didn't
have Iowa football that year, I would have been just
so much more depressed.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I think my greatest regret from that year sports wise
was I've been to two Olympics in my life, Atlanta
and Sydney. I want to go to more. I love
the Olympics, and I had wanted to go to Japan.
It was my dream to go to Tokyo twenty twenty.
I'd made a bunch of arrangements and COVID blasted them
all to smitherings. It was still going on, but honestly,
like I couldn't be there. There was no one there.
(15:41):
It took a lot of sale out of the Olympics
for me. And I was at home instead of in Japan,
and I was at home watching a bunch of movies
on streaming services because that's what we were doing instead
of the theaters too. It's like everyone got into movies
being streaming at that same time too.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, I remember Joe zat.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
For the Dodgers. The Dodgers win the World Series and
it was on during Halloween.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
I hate the Mickey Mouse talk from these years too,
like just Mickey Mouse Championships, all of that. I hate
that talk.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It just I think it's very different.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Sure, but I think we've had other shortened seasons as
well that just don't get the scene kind of screwtin me.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I feel I've another bloody result. I want to mention
one thing before we leave.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
So Ohio State ended up and Dan it's not gonna
let me bringing this up because it's probably not a
great memory for him. The Buckeyes, though, ended up, you know,
pulling away from Northwestern in the title game. They went
on to play an Alabama team thirteen to zero. They
played a full season pretty much. A lot of people
regard that Alabama team as being like Nick Saban's best
or one of his best, ended up pulling away from
(16:46):
a very very good Ohio State Buckeyes team fifty two
to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And that is don't call it a cut, don't call
it a throwback Thursday?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
A throwback Thursday?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
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(18:08):
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he played at Florida State the nash Football League. Covers
it for a living as well. He got his own
radio show. You see him on TV. He does a
little bit of everything, Dave, Let's start with arch Manning.
I kind of feel like he's the only player that
everybody knows about in college football, right, Like he's the guy.
(18:29):
And especially with transfer portal guys moving here or there,
what do you think of him as a player? Like,
how good is he actually from your perspective?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Boy, that's the million dollar question. I don't think there's
been a player in college football that I can remember.
I mean, maybe Tim Tebow, but even that hype wasn't
at this level that it is with Arch Manning. I mean,
I think Lebron James maybe coming out of high school
when he had a cover of sports illustrators had this
much hype as like a young player, but he's obviously
(18:58):
skipped college. But he's he's got the skill set. I mean,
I get why there's a lot of you know, it
goes past the name. It's not just his uncles and
his dad, who was a great player before he hurt
his back. It really is the flashes that we've seen
as a young player because he didn't get to start
a couple games last year, came in even in relief
a couple times of quinn ewers last year. We saw
(19:21):
him with a mobility that we didn't see from Eli
or Payton like. So that's exciting. But he looks like
the total package. But we truly don't know how he's
going to be like under that cauldron of because it's
a whole other level. Like everyone loved the young talented backup,
even if your name isn't arch Banding, even if you're
just a five star, and you never know how somebody's
going to respond on the bright lights under pressure, and
(19:42):
boy are they going to be pretty bright that open
air opener when he plays in Columbus at the Shoe.
I think he'll be good. I think it might take
some time. Like I think it could be a little
bit bumpy, but I mean bumpy means maybe they're only
ten and two as opposed to twelve and oho. That's
because he's got so much supporting town like Texas has
got to a spot where their roster is so stacked.
(20:04):
Even when they lose players, they're plugging in new ones.
So I don't expect Arch to be a total bust.
I think it just depends on how much do you
think Texas is going to do this year? Probably hinges
on whether he's a superstar in year one or year two,
which I think is probably the more likely scenario.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Uh Klen de Boor, what is what does Alabama look
like this year?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
They've got a really good defense, So that's the thing.
I think Alabama's kind of flying into the radar like
they had a blow stand, you know, blow their standard
blow in Nick saban standard last year. They lost their
bowl game to Michigan, so they got this bad taste
in their mouth. But they also have a quarterback that
I think is going to fit what Kaitlyn de Boor
wants to do at Alabama. Jalen Molro as good as
(20:47):
he was as a college quarterback, and we did see
him get drafted in the third round. I thought he
had some limitations in the passing game really with the
pocket passing stuff. He was really good at the deep ball.
He was an electric runner, but he was very in
consistent in the mid range passing game. I think they're
going to go with ty Simpson, who's been there for
three years. He's been in quarterback battles. I actually appreciate
(21:08):
that he's stuck around and kind of waited for this opportunity.
But I think he's going to be somebody you'll feel
a little bit more of a traditional passer. They have
Ryan Williams too, who I know everyone once talking about
Jeremiah Smith, the unbelievable receiver at Ohio State, but last
year he and Alabama's Ryan Williams, who was another true freshman,
will kind of go in toe to toe with highlight
real plays. I think he's going to be better. They've
(21:29):
got a couple other wide receivers there that are pretty talented,
So I think they're going to get better quarterback next season.
And if their defenses is good what most people think
it's going to be, they're going to be contending for
the SEC championship once again. And Calen de Moore better hope.
So because the word and I talk to a lot
of people in Tuscaloosa that if they don't make the playoffs,
he's going to be on the hot seat already, which
(21:50):
is kind of crazy, but that's the Alabama standard.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah it is. James Franklin has done a great job
at Vanderbilt, a great job Penn State with reception of
when you play people that actually matter, right yep. And
at Vandy you could go, hey, they're Vandy, You're not
supposed to beat the big boys. But at Penn State
it's different. Huge expectations for his team. Can they live
up to them?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I think they can, Like I've really been impressed. You
mentioned against top five teams at Penn State, James Franklin
is one in fifteen. He only has one win over
a top five opponent and that was Ohio State back
in twenty sixteen. He's come up short. Even last year,
as good as they went, they won a couple of
playoff games, they did not get that top five win.
Like they're still looking for it. So but the thing
(22:35):
that I like about him is I think there's a
commonality with the last two national champions. Michigan won it
two years ago, Ohio State won it last year, and
there was almost a team mantra, like you saw guys
pass up the NFL to come back just to win
a national championship. And that's what they have. They've got
both running back Cathron Allen and Nick Singleton both could
(22:56):
have gone to the NFL. They decided to come back. Center.
Who's a really great, you know, offensive lineman, Nick Dawkins.
He's actually Darryl Dawkins's son, the Chocolate Thunder. That's his
son that's still playing. And he's he's he came back.
He could have done the NFL. So you got an
offensive line. Drew Aller is a young quarterback, and I
really think that Drew Aller probably has maybe more pressure
(23:19):
on him than even James Franklin because he's been really good,
but on the biggest stages he's come up short, like
he's just kind of come up flat. If you go
back to that playoff game against Notre Dame, did not
compete complete one pass to a wide receiver, and you know,
the fourth quarter drive, they put it on his shoulders
with a minute to go and he throws an interception.
Notre Dame kicks a field goal and the game's over.
(23:41):
So he's got a ton of pressure on him, but
I talked to all of them. I talked to all
these players last week in Las Vegas. They don't seem
overwhelmed by the pressure. It's more of a challenge for them.
And the thing that I love hearing from James Franklin
is like, this is where most programs wish they could be.
Where you're getting pressure to win a national championship like
ten and two isn't good enough. I think that's probably
(24:02):
the proper mindset, and I think they're like, I love
their mindset. I think they're confident. I think they've got
a veteran team, so I do think they're boys to
sort of break that curse versus the best opponents they face.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Tridio. Danny Canell
is our guest, d Q. Let's we've done a lot
of the South right, We've done some Penn State. What
about Lincoln Riley and USC. First year, obviously they flipped
that thing around. Second year became a lot of disappointment,
(24:36):
and you know, now he's had a lot of staff
turnover as well. What do the Trojans look like?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
So they're a team another team I think that's kind
of flying under the radar, Like you know, either it's
Ohio State to repeat, it's Penn State, maybe even Oregon
to go back to back in the Big Ten title,
even though they ask some questions. But USC is a
program that I think the pressure is starting to build
for Lincoln Riley, and you mentioned it, he fired his
strength coach like late this offseason. I think he saw
(25:02):
a deficiency there really in toughness. And you know, the
strength coach is arguably the most important position on a
college football stat staff, especially because you're dealing with young players.
I don't know about you, but like from the time
I was eighteen to twenty two was just a massive
like maturity strength building time when your body really starts
to take shape as an adult, and if you maximize that,
(25:25):
that's when you can get the most out of your team.
And they just have fallen short in that area. A
little bit curious what they did at quarterbacks. So last
year they had Miller Moss and then they benched him
for Jade Mayeva, who was a transfer that came in,
and Lincoln Riley felt good enough about Maeva that he
did not hit the portal. He didn't go out and
try to sign one of the bigger names that was
available in the portal. So he feels pretty good about it.
(25:47):
And they do have a lot of players returning on
the defensive side of the ball, and they were so
here's and I asked Lincoln Roley this last week because
they were close last year and that's the worst thing
that any fan base wants to hear, right, you don't
want to hear your team is close, want to hear excuses.
But they really were. They had a ton of one
possession games. Penn State comes to mind. They're playing at
the coliseum at home. They have that game, you know,
(26:09):
within a possession, they end up giving it up, losing
overtime to Penn State. Notre Dame is another one couple
pick sixes in that game, totally flips like on a dime.
So I think this is a team that is close,
but nobody wants to hear about close, and it's got
to be about the results for Lincoln Riley and USC.
But I do think the Big ten is so like
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after you get past the top three teams, which really
are Ohio State, Penn State, and Oregon Michigan right behind there.
But I feel like USC should be right in that
conversation is sort of the next man up, and I
do think that being the case, they should be in
that conversation for the playoffs late. And if they're not,
it's another team where I think USC is gonna have
some serious soul search and do what to do at
(26:51):
the head coaching position. I know he's probably got a
massive buyout because it was a super you know, a
super high price tag that Lincoln Riley came with. But
I do think is a critical year that Lincoln Riley's
got to step forward and take this program right back
towards the top of the Big ten.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Stutt Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Tradier Danny Caneo
as our guest. We haven't mentioned any Big twelve teams right,
and Arizona State came from nowhere to somewhere in the
Big twelve miles Mount Oaklama State beats Arkansas, then completely
falls apart, becomes discombobulated. It's a league that before the
(27:27):
season last year, could have gotten two teams locked in
to the playoff, didn't roll the dice and that turned
out to backfire. What do you think with the Big
Twelve this year?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I do so.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Brett Yormark, their commissioner. He loves selling the conference as
the deepest conference in college football, which is I think
it's both a blessing and a curse because you're almost
better served to have one great team and like ACC
might be in a better position because Clenson's a heavy favorite.
They're almost a lock to make the College Football Playoff
(27:58):
and they should be eleven and one or ten and two.
And in that conversation, the Big Twelve is extremely competitive,
but there's not a lot of separation between the top
team and probably the tenth or eleventh team. You know,
there's just a like in it. But even as I
say that, last year, Arizona State was predicted to finish
last and they were supposed to have four and a
half wins, and they go out and win the whole thing.
(28:20):
That's the type of conference it is. I think it's
extremely wide open. They've got probably the most interesting case
study though, in Texas Tech. Because Texas Tech, and I'm
sure you've talked about the story, They've got a booster
out there, Cody Campbell, who played at Texas Tech as
an offensive lineman. He's a young billionaire. He's only in
his forties and he's basically been the te Boone Pickens
(28:40):
or the Phil Knight of you know, famous boosters who
really helped put their programs on the map or put
them back in position for a national championship. They've bought
the best roster in the Big Twelve this offseason. They
have the top portal class in the country, and a
lot of it's on the defensive side of the ball.
But we haven't seen that berimout. You know, just work.
(29:01):
And we see it in baseball, where the highest spending
team doesn't always win. Sometimes they do. But in a
sport like football, it's such a continuity game where you
want chemistry and you want players all doing the same thing,
and execution is so important. With eleven guys, you know,
not one can screw up that. Can they do this
in one year? And the good news is they weren't
(29:21):
awful last year. They were pretty good at eight wins.
But can they push through? And if they do, I
think it could encourage other billionaire boosters. There aren't many
of them to follow the same suit, so it's a
ton of pressure on their head. Coach Joy maguire, But
it's a very interesting case study. But it's filled with teams.
Arizona State I think is going to be right there again. Utah,
(29:41):
who had a bad first year in the Big twelve
after moving from the PAC twelve. I think they could
be right towards the top. They were at the top
of the pack twelve before they left there. Kansas State failure.
I mean there are legitimately five to six teams that
can make a case for and say yep, I could
see them winning and even saying that it might be
a team that I don't even give you because it is.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That wide open, awesome stuff. Tq DK. Can't wait to
see you on the TV. Love talking football with you.
Let's do it again, really really soon. Thanks for our guest.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
You got it dog. You great catching up all right?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
That's Danny Canell. Good guy, good friend and obviously quarterback
at Florida State in the Nation Football League. He joins
us in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio
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what do you got up all?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Man?
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Well, we got a huge MLB trade deadline right now.
I've been talking about it on these updates for the
last couple of hours. Still about I would say two
hours to go? Do you have any thoughts on some
of the big ones. I mean, just just go over
some of the top names. Carlos care is going back
to the Astros, but the Dodgers are picking There's a
lot of moving parts as far as pictures right now.
I know the Dodgers picked up Brock Stewart from the Twins.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
There's a problem with the Dodgers where he he's never
heard of these guys.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Well, I was just in the back, and I think
uh Brie, one of our sound editors, was kind of
bereft for what the Dodgers had given up to get Hire,
get him.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
But yeah, but A J.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Peler seems to be aggressive. I know, I don't know
how far back the Padres are right now, but they
have made it like five movie B E aggressive.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
A B E A G A G G R E
S E S S I V E aggressive b E aggressive.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
It just feels like this trade deadline in particular, I've
seen a lot of teams a lot more aggressive than
they've usually been.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, that's because there's more teams involved that can make
the playoffs right. That's the whole idea of expanding the
playoffs is what more teams think they got a chance.
More you get a chance, more you're around, more people
putting it in the stadiumre people put in the state,
the more money you make.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I think the Astros have officially told the sports world
they no longer give a crop about that reputation they
have as cheaters. I remember a part of them allowing
Carlos Carrea to go off into that wild free agency
that he did was kind of a that's one person
less that is going to be associated with that twenty
(33:15):
seventeen team. Sure, ol Twove's been there the whole time.
I was caught heckling him at a game. Recently, al
Twove has been the one guy. And then they bring
back Korea and they're like, screw it. So that gives
me one more player to hate on that team this year.
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Just like serious question, is Carlos Korea any good anymore?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Not? Really? No, he hasn't been close to what he
was when he was last an Astro.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, when he knew what pitches were coming, he was
really good.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, when he knew the pitches. That makes it easier,
it really does. But no, that's hey.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
You know when I have when I have the questions
to the test, I'm way better at tests.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
He's right now batting two sixty seven right now with
a OPS of seven oh four.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Here's the problem with what you did. You went from
like batting average, which is like old school stats, to OPS,
which is fairly new schooling.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
And I I feel like there's a lot of stats.
There are a lot more new new schoolly than ops though,
And I think that's my trouble, Like, look, I'm more
of a football guy. I feel like OPS slugging on
base percentage does almost feel like middle aged stats now
because you know there's a lot more status.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You're right they are, But again, you have to give context.
If you say, what's he what's his OPS?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Zero point seven oh four?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay, do you know what most people will driving around think, Chris,
I know that's just numbers. Does that sound good? Is
that good? That sounds good to me?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So it's not. It's not great. It's not great, Bobs,
that is it bad?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Is it good?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I don't know. Well, just just for you say like
he's one of the top ten players in OPS, you
say he's one of the bottom ten players OPS average
sixty seven, and we're like, well, I don't know that
that doesn't sound great. It's batting average. But there are
to sixty seven that we considered to be great players.
Why because they're on base all the time, you know,
or they hit a ton of home runs. So the
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people you think, if you're going to provide some form
of new eight, the old statistics don't work because nobody
cares about him anymore except for home runs more than RBI.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Just for a gat new ones.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Go ahead, take it, Doug.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I'll take it from here. Okay, if you if you
hit over eight hundred ops, that's above average. The elite
players Aaron Judge, Shohey et over one thousand. Yeah, so
seven hundred to eight hundred is like average mid mediocre.
He's a mediocre player who makes a lot more than
(35:41):
he should.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Is he mid?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Or is he sus sus?
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I think sus like you were talking about. When he
knew what pitches were coming, he was like a nine
hundred ops.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, well he used to be a star. Now he's
just a guy.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Yeah, just a guy's a jag all right.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Speaking of guys out there, John Harbaugh had a lot
of praise for his quarterback Lamar Jackson. We're getting into
that time of the year, We're starting to get a
lot of hype and getting a lot of teams. But
John was very aggressive with his praise. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Well, there's so many things, and Lamar is a person.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Obviously I appreciate the most, the leader of the person,
the genuine human being that he is, and I just
I love him as a as a person. But I
think from a football standpoint, just go to the most basic,
simple thing. Lamar is a passer. He is a historically
good passer. And that's really quite a statement because of
the of the narrative that's been surrounding him ever since
(36:31):
the beginning. Lamar Jackson can throw the football. He can
throw it every kind of way you make, every kind
of throw, any kind of way you want. He's as
good as any guy, any pastor that has ever been.
And I think now the numbers are proven that. So
that's the thing I'm kind of a little bit proud of,
but also a little bit like, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
What have we learned from that?
Speaker 6 (36:47):
You know, you can take a big picture, you can
say from a society standpoint, football standpoint, what have we
learned from that? What kind of question do we ask ourselves?
But Mar Jackson as a passer is historically great, No,
he's not.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I mean, if he is, then he's a choke artist
in the playoffs. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
I just don't think that that reputation is not there
yet at all for Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Might never be all let me, let me help you
out here. Okay, so here's the falloff last like his
in the regular season. In the regular season, forty one touchdowns,
four interceptions. That's unbelievable. So he's right in that context,
that was Lamar Jackson last year should have been the
MVP in eight career playoff games. That's half of a season. Okay,
(37:37):
they're three and five. Can't put it all on him.
Seventeen hundred yards passing, it's fine, right, it's like thirty
five hundred yards. That's below average. Grated Weather's worse. Ten touchdowns,
seven interceptions. He's also fumbled the ball seven times in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So either he's just a choke artist and not good
in the playoffs. I don't think that's the case, or
in the playoffs people try and make him beat him
with his arm and that's not what he does best.
I think Lamar Jackson is great. I think there's a
he's not as bad a passer. And by the way,
when people said he wasn't a good passer coming out,
myself included He's proved a lot of it wrong. But
no one's like he couldn't throw a football. It was
(38:14):
for the NFL to be a.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Passer, all right, real quick? Last one here, So a
big scrip in the world of can drinks. What speaks
to me My father and grandfather both worked in bottling.
There's a recall notice just posted yesterday by the FDA
that an unspecified number of high Noon cans actually contained
Celsius while several flavors Celsius contain high Noon. Now this
is a big a mix up. Is high Noon is
vodka Seltzer and Celsius's energy drink?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Just to check, hel pass is all caffeine? Yeah, he
non is all is vodka.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
And Burst in the back drinks stuck out.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
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