October 23, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug and the crew address the newest details in the gambling case involving members of the NBA. Doug welcomes former World Series Champion and current MLB analyst AJ Pierzynski to breakdown the World Series. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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Doug Gottlieb Show, and subscribe. So the big story of
the day, this is a gigantic story. Is this gambling
probe and uh it's got why tapping fraud, racketeering? Here
(01:04):
here's a question, just to question to you guys, Do
you guys know what racketeering is? We use the racketeering
term all the time. Do you know what racketeering is?
Chase two? Are you do?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Are?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Do you know racketeering? What it actually means?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It has something to do with money, an organized crime,
like trying to get money out of people somehow.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, I mean it's basically extortion, right, extortion is another
year for racketeering. It's it's uh uh god, how to
how to describe it?
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Go ahead, Dan Buyer, Yeah, No, I was just gonna say,
why do you do that to us? Like why do
you try to? Why don't you just tell us what
racketeering is as well?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We don't necessarily no, Like I thought, racketeering is rigging
a system. That's what I think of it as it's
a racket, right, That's where the term, ah, it's a
racket comes from. But it's one of those words that
we all use or we all repeat, and I don't
think most of us know it. I'm gonna tell you myself.
(02:06):
Included right, like racketerias I'm looking at up in Wikipedia,
is a type of organized crime in which the perpetrators
set up a coercive fraudulent, extortionary and otherwise the illegal
coordinated scheme or operation. So it's like, when you put
everything together, right, that's racketeering. That's a racket. That's when
(02:28):
the term rigged is. It's when it's all put together.
It's like, Dan, you and I were both aligned on
the part of this story which is the most interesting
is the line that I was reading where where you know,
they use these special card counters right where they can
(02:50):
mark cards, they had X ray poker tables. You're like, what,
And then when they would when people would owe them money,
then they would you know, threaten violence if they didn't pay,
and they would extort them with illegal gambling. All of
that is racketeering. It's like when you put in every
one of those little factors through a grand scheme, that's racketeering.
(03:11):
That's where the term it's a racket comes from. And
I'll bet there's a lot of people going like, hey,
I've used that term, it's a racket. I didn't know,
and I've used racketeering before and I didn't actually truly
knew what it meant. But that's what I was doing
when when we were talking with I was looking at
what racketeering. Is what changes because of this? Dan Byer like,
(03:34):
what what happens? What's the reaction to this story?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Well, I think there's a there's a lot and I'll
even Jason passed along something that Mike Florio had tweeted about,
which is what I said in our first hour. What
did he say that the the trimming down of prop
bets could end up happening from from sports books.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah, he said something like in the states that sports
gambling is legal, they will make prop bets it.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Yeah, I just I don't understand why there are why
there are lines on Terry Rosier stats.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's it comes from fantasy football and fantasy and then
became fantasy basketball that people were basically betting on this
forever and they're like, hey, you know, if people want
to bet on it, let's let's bet on it. And yeah,
it's a complete and abject disaster. Who could have seen
it coming? Everybody? Everybody, because so much of it's so
controllable by the person. And I think the assumption, and
(04:30):
I think it's an arrogant assumption that were like, these
guys make too much money to ever get involved in
this stuff, right, That's the that's the thought. But how
much money you make that it just increases the volume
of what you're gonna do to bet Right, you're trying
to you're trying to unleash that dopamine. You know, this
(04:55):
risky behavior, Jay Stu. Outside of the prop that's what
else changes does it? Does this story change anything?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Probably not. I hope it would. I hope it would.
But you mentioned what's his name, Donahue, Donaghue's story.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, yeah, we all thought that.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Was going to change the world, and it didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I don't know what would like If you were to
ask the average NBA fan or you're going to stop
watching the sport, or you're going to stop going to games,
stop buying the March because of something like this, I
think ninety nine percent of people would say no. That's
the weird thing about this is that the FBI is
taking this very serious and they're going to convict people
that are guilty of crimes, federal crimes. I just don't
(05:38):
know if the consuming public is going to change the
way they consume the sport.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
I do think that when we talk about the Tim
Donahue situation, we look at it like we do the
David Stern frozen envelope deal with Patrick Ewing, where we
think this stuff isn't on the up and up because
it quote benefits the NBA, right, Like, this is what
the NBA wants. The NBA didn't want Sacramento in the
(06:04):
NBA Finals. They wanted the Lakers in the NBA Finals.
So that's where I think that this is. Well, maybe
all under the same umbrella, this is a different portion
of it because I don't know what the motivation is
to where you would keep Sacramento out of an NBA finals.
But if we're betting on Terry Rozier's stats, who is
(06:28):
that really benefiting? Like I always felt that the rig
notion of it was not that we looked at money
but just on teams success. Oh, it's better for the
NBA when the Lakers win NBA titles so they can
make more money. That's how I feel. Generally, we looked
at the NBA being fixed, not in a way that
could screw us or screw other betters. So that's what
(06:50):
I think is unique about this. I think it's different.
I don't know, to your guys point what else can
be done. I just don't think that they're necessarily the same.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Does Chauncey Billups regain his position as head coach of
the port?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Not a chance.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, hold on, yeah, okay, I believe you, and I
genuinely agree with you. But let me pitch something to
you here. Okay, we're reading an indictment, an indictment, we're
reading what they have on him. And so what they're
saying was he was he got people to join this
poker game, which was a rigged poker game. He'd use
(07:26):
this celebrity status, Hey, you should play poker with my guys.
They played this rig poker game, and then they cut
him in on fifty grand from the poker game. That
that's how read to me? Is that how read you?
Dan By? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And then he even took part in some of these games.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Right, Okay, The question becomes did he can they prove
that he knew it was rigged or was this just
a like anything? He's mister big shot, he's Chauncey Billups. Listen,
all you gotta do is play in this poker game.
We're gonna give you fifty grand. That's it. That's all
you gotta do. So that that's there becomes the plausible deniability.
(08:02):
Do I think they would arrest him without like a
text message that shows that he knew. I'm guessing they
probably have some evidence pointing to it. If they don't
have evidence that he knew, he will coach again in
the NBA. If they have evidence that he knew it
was a rigged game, he will never coach again in
the NBA.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Well, he also he also has been connected to There
was some information that he told somebody that the Blazers
were tanking and that they were not going to have
four players play in a game, and there was unusual
betting activity surrounding that. Yeah, yeah, I just I don't
think Johnson Billips is gonna have any friends, at least
(08:42):
the ones that, hey, I wouldn't be able to trust them.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's amazing, amazing stuff. I mean, Terry Rogier will never
play sport together. He's that one's cooked. That one's pretty easy, right.
I can't see any world in which he plays in
an NBA game Big three. Maybe he goes goes Big three, right,
but I don't see it otherwise. It's crazy though that,
(09:07):
Like I almost feel bad for Adam Silver because he's
getting crushed today. Meanwhile, the product last two nights has
been great. Webin Yama had forty last night on twenty
one shots. Looked completely back, completely healthy, and he looked
like the guy that we were told he could become.
(09:29):
And no one is talking about it once the story
drop because the story way more salacious, even though it doesn't.
John Spill's team stinks. Terry Roziers, not a particularly impactful
player in the NBA, doesn't actually have anything to do
with anything that matters, but it's the pr the public perception,
and they are getting just eviscerated because of it.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I'll say, I'll take it a step further, so we
work on the talk space here right, National talk Space.
I'm not talking about your MBA podcast, why not, But
I would venture to say that, like after this first
week bump, we don't really talk MBA in great detail
unless there are major storylines. Yep, you're right until after
the super Bowl. So we're spending this real estate where
(10:14):
we could be talking about, as you say, the positive
on this story.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah. And and by the way, as much as I
would like to talk about Victor webbin Yama, I wouldn't
be doing my job because that's not the big story
of the day. This will lead every newscast everywhere anywhere.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
I don't see anything more people would want to hear
about this stuff than Victor Webbin Yama's night last night.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Of course they weah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Of course, if it bleeds, it leads. We love that.
We love this stuff. But again I actually feel I
actually feel bad, Like even the story about another How
about these college basketball coaches where they're like Izzo yesterday
with the impassioned thing about G League players and be
recruited and Kelvin Samson and then there's another G League
(11:02):
player and guess who's like one of three schools for me?
You guys think Calvin Sampson. Funny how that works, right,
because all of us are in the same boat where
we're like, yeah, this these the lack of rules is
really crazy. We just try and get good players. We
don't like it, but we also want to win and
this is the only way to win. Even that story nothing,
It's going to all be about gambling. And Jason, you
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and I we've been talking about this for years. They
keep making gambling more and more and more accessible to
more and more people. And I understand that the gambling
industry is like, look where a lot of these red
flags come up because we actually monitor all of these bets.
And the more you make it legal, the easier it
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is for us to monitor because the illegal ones go away.
They're they're the non regulated ones. That's how you get
the mafia involved, that's how you get this is how
you get the mafi out of it. But the more
you open up access to it, less people can control
their gambling. It's so accessible. The numbers they start small
and then they build up. My guess is there will
(12:11):
be a lot more of these. I actually think this
has way less impact than people think, even though we're
going to talk about it. Whatever, There's been other gambling
stories NFL players, and all they've done is allow more
access to NFL players to bet on other sports. When
those of us who've been alive long enough, like all
of these stories are the same guy starts out betting
(12:33):
a little bit here, betting a little bit there, then
works their way into debt. Then you get into such
a debt where somebody pops up and goes, hey, you
want to wipe off that debt? Yeah, I can't really
cover it. Okay, if you don't want to cover it
and you can't pay the fig there is another way.
What's the other way?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Just this week? Just this week there you know the
bookie that may that made all the bets for Otani's interpreter.
He's been making the rounds and I, uh, I definitely
would say to listeners, you should find that sound. The
bookie gives in great detail what was going on, and
(13:11):
and he says that, you know, people say that, what's
the big problem that Otani's interpreter was only gambling on soccer,
like ninety five percent of his bets were on soccer.
And the bookie points out, like, that's just the stupidest
betting you're gonna do is on soccer because you lose
on ties. But anyways, so the uh but he's like,
(13:31):
you don't you know, you don't see the forest beyond
the trees. It's not necessarily that Otani can't affect soccer games.
It's what happens when you get in deep and then
you have access to a star player the next thing.
People aren't really seeing what happens next.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, it's what happens next. And I I think the
more we oh, we're gonna take down prop bets, like okay,
so that stops people from gambling on their sport when
they see the lines. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah,
but the problem still exists. It doesn't change the nature
(14:12):
of human beings trying to bet and make money quickly
and then thinking they can cover it up.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
You know what I love about this? Have you guys
seen the shots of Terry Roseier. It is, and I'm
using air quotes, ankle injury. So if a guy gets
hurt in the NBA, what do they do. They put
him at the end of the bench, maybe they take
him in the locker room, team doctors around him, whatever
the deal is. So Rosier goes out of this game,
not a team doctor in sight around him. In fact,
(14:41):
there are open chairs next to him on the bench.
He then is grabbing his ankle like adding to it. Again,
no team doctors around. And then there's another shot where
he has disappeared and gone into the locker room. But
if anybody gets it's hurt in an NBA game, players
(15:02):
are helping them there, helping them walk off, team physician
comes over, somebody's looking at them end of the bench,
take him in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
None of that.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
It was all a great acting job by Terry Rozier,
and I'm saying that facetiously. It was it sticks out
like a sore thumb if you are looking for it.
It was great, It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's really really funny.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Also, did you hear New York NYPD commission Jessica Tish.
She stuck it to Terry Rosier ready for this one.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
As the NBA season tips off, his career is already benched,
not for injury but for integrity.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Whoa betty, they call this operation nothing but net and
royal flush.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Ah play that one again. That was so clever.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Stuck it to him.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
As the NBA season tips off, his career is already benched,
not for injury, but for integrity.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
We got him, book him down. You know, gosh, you
know she went back and she she gave the fist pump.
Yes at Obama fist pump. Huh h you you you.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Rosier had to be shocked when he heard that.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
As the NBA season tips off, his career is already benched,
not for injury, but for integrity.
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Series when they broke the curse with the Chicago White
(17:11):
Sox in two thousand and five. You can now hear
him on Fox Sports. He also has a podcast called
Foul Territory and he joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
I got to ask you about the story of the day, Aj, Like, obviously,
baseball players a lot of time in your hands, a
lot of time together. Card games are you know everybody
(17:33):
knows guys play cards, Guys play cards. Whatever, these gambling
allegations in the NBA, and these stories about like Russian
mafia or just old school Italian mafia guys and see
through cards, X ray X ray tables and glasses whenever,
what's your reaction when you hear this story today?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's insanity, right, It's absolutely insane in saying to me
that this is where we're at in uh, in sports,
in life. I mean didn't. I mean, I'm not saying
any these guys did anything, but man, for as much
as they made in their careers, that they really need
a couple of hundred thousand extra.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, I guess there's there's never enough, or you get
you get in too deep. You know how guys are
they getting too deep? You're like, hey, do you want
to come out of your pocket for this or you
want to make it up to us? And some of
them are helping out there. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, my question, my question for y'all is like you know,
my buddy, am I just asking not long ago, like
did you gamble on other sports when you played? And
I was like no, because even if you lose and
you get too far down and you're like, okay, I'm
a couple of hundred thousand down, and you know, if
you're married, you don't want to write that check right
and have your wife's seat or make that thanks statement.
(18:47):
So if someone came to you and they're like, well,
if you're not paying, we're going to break your arm,
go after your family or throw a game, you know,
just don't put yourself in that position, is the only
thing I can say.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
And again, no, I.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I get I get it. But yeah, yes, that's why
I don't know why they're letting college kids bet on
stuff now can bet on pro sports?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Why wombling every listen? Gambling is everywhere, That's why? And
would you rather listen if it wasn't regulated, Doug, You
know that it wasn't regulated, we'd never know about this.
So thank goodness is regulated, and now we can keep
some sort of an idea of what's happening and try
to police it a little bit if you can, you know,
But like, if it wasn't regulated, we never even know
(19:24):
about this stuff. Same thing about the two guys in baseball,
the two pictures of the guardians that threw the balls,
and there was a big thing on them. If if
we didn't have it regulating and it was just you know,
the old bookkeeper, the old booky way, we never would
have known it, never really would ever had any idea there.
Certain things are being accused, Certain guys were being accused
of doing certain things that are just not good.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Aj Persinski's our guest. He're on the Doug Gottlief Show.
Let's get to Baseball World Series is upon us. It's
very easy for those of us who weren't star players
World Series champions to sit there and go, shay, hey,
tany greatest performance ever? What what did you think when
you were watching Game four?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The greatest performance I've ever seen in my lifetime because
of the stage, because of the moment, like he it
helped him get to the World Series. He pitched, and
I know guys have pitched and hit multiple home runs
before in the regular season, but they've never gotten into
post and you know, had six hittings, ten strikeouts, two
(20:25):
hits and three home runs and one that went out
of the stadium. Like what he seriously is not I mean,
people call me unicorn. He's like an alien. It's like
he's the greatest player, all around player that I've ever
seen as far as hitting and pitching. I didn't c
Bay Bruce, and there's been some other guys that have
tried it, but as far as like just the unicorn alien,
whatever you want to call him, he's all those things
(20:47):
and he's the best. I can't even describe how hard
it is to do what he's doing. Hitting is impossible,
and then to throw the pitching on top of it
is incredible.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox sportrait that's a j
Perzinski And obviously that Fa that famous run in five
started with you guys taking down the Angels. You know five, right,
So we remember Vlad Guerrero as and I was an
Angel fan, but a baseball fan growing up. Going back
to his expo day, says he was like the best
(21:16):
bad ball hitter in baseball. It felt like the best
place to throw it to Vlad Guerrero was right down
the middle because it was at as toes he would
hit it out of the park. It was that his eyes,
he would hit it out of the park, right. And
and I thought, Jason Stewart's my producer AJ and He's like,
I've been so over the NEPO babies or whatever, but
(21:37):
here's the dude who has lived up to it, has
lived up and he's been as much as Shohey was
great in one game, he's been amazing the whole playoffs.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Uh, he's been the best hitter of the entire playoffs.
And why does Jase hate Neo babies? I think, you know,
his kids must not be any good at sports or
some radio. His kids must not be good at any
good at radio, so that I don't know. I mean,
the Bubba Chef's pretty good. Some guys that have been okay,
is Junior, I mean King Griffy Jr.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Right baseball as well. I'm close with the Holiday Boys.
They're awesome. They're awesome as well, awesome kids.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And exact and good players exactly. So I just I
don't know. I mean, if it's been unbelievable, but but
it's the best hitter in baseball right now in the postseason.
What he's cut a strikeout down, he's cut a swing
and miss down, He's locked it in. And he's so
fun to watch. I mean, listen, if you're not a
baseball fan, tune in to watch Blag Guerrero. He's smiling,
he's laughing, he's having a good time. Not in an
(22:37):
off putting way at all either. Like when I say that,
I mean he's literally having a good time at the
right times and handling his strikes out he's like, Okay,
I'll get him next time, knowing that he will, and
it's just he's so fun to watch on defense and
they get turned double players and they get out. You know,
he sees the excitement on his face. He's cheering for
his other team, his teammates.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I mean, this dude is.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Everything you can ask for. Oh yeah, by the way,
he's just signed a five hundred million dollar contract and
he's the face of Canada and baseball in Canada.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Rest versus rust, How do you think it overrated?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I hate this talk. I hate this You know why
because in twenty five, twenty years ago, we had all
kinds of time off and you know what, we just
going out and kicked everyone left. So I'm so sick
of the rust. You know, who complains about the rust
is a too much rest the team that loses. Yankees
and Dodgers both had time off. They were in the
World Series last year right now, the Dodgers had to
play a wild card game, Wildcard round. And you can
argue that it was a scrimmage game, because some people
(23:33):
say that because they played against the Reds. But the
Bluejays had time off and they went out whooped Yankees. Right,
so the Marrors had time off, they beat they beat
the Tigers who came in hot. So I just don't
get this argument. It's just because when you lose, you
have to find the reason. It just can't beat that.
You just got beat And it's always something. This started.
Excuse me, it started in two thousand and six, I
think when the Tigers lost to the Cardinals in that
(23:56):
World Series and they made a bunch of errors on
the mound and they didn't really hit they just that
was when the first tear I ever heard about. Oh,
we had too much rest? What we wanted rest in
the playoffs? Are you kidding me? Because you've got days off,
your beat up, tired, you're worn out like I wanted,
especially for my pitchers. Like we can set a rotation,
we can line up our bullpen, our hitters, get some
(24:17):
days off, we can take some you know, shrimmage game
stuff like I wanted the rest. So I just don't
believe in that, And it's one of my least favorite
excuses in all sports.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. AJ Prazinski
is our guest. Dodgers' bullpen Game one. It was shaky
despite the vact. Snell was amazing. Uh, they survived it,
but they had such incredible starting pitching. So again, rest
is not an issue there. It's just a matter of
what do they do in seven, eight and nine. It
(24:49):
looks like they know who they want in nine. But
you know he couldn't close out Game one. He stopped
trying him back there? Who's been up and down? What's
your level of confidence in the Dodgers' bullpen in the
biggest in baseball?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You don't need a lot if if your starter at
to eight and nine like smelling Uh jong Loto did
in one and two and then Glassdow did what's seven
innings and then show he did six and they had
a lead. Uh, I don't know that. Here's my confidence sector.
I'm confident Rokie, I'm confident in Vestia. After that, I
don't know. And trying to do what he did last year?
(25:23):
Will Kershaw be a factor? Will and she and be
a factor? Bond did to be a factor. Who's it
gonna be that's gonna step up not named Rokie and
not named Vessia and get big outs for him. But
it's the same for the Blue Jays. For me, you
have to have hoffin, you have to have some other people.
But can the lefties get out the lefties of the Dodgers,
meaning show hey Freddie and Max Munsey and can they
(25:43):
can they use their lefties properly to get those guys out.
I don't know, but for me, the biggest those are
the two biggest question marks in this series is can
can't which bullpen handles better? And can the Blue Jays
starting pitchers match the Dodger starting pitchers as far as
zeros an innings and give their both a chance and
give their kidders a chance to finally break through.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What's it
like to catch a World Series game? To win a
World Series and you're catching? What's that like?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's the greatest feeling you can ever have as a player,
because team wise, not individual wise, things happen, but team
wise it's more important because everybody remembers, Like I wasn't
a guy that said any kind of you know, all
time records for home runs or hits or any of
that stuff, but everybody remembers the first question you get.
(26:35):
Nobody nobody ever asked you, Hey, how many hits did
you have? I mean they do, but the first question
you get is do you have a ring? And so
when you get that ring, it's ultimate, like that's you
to everybody, like, yeah, I got my ring. You know,
you can never take it away from me, no matter
how much you want to say this or that about me.
I always have this ring and it's in my back
pocket and I can always pull it out as a
(26:56):
trump card for anything you want, any other thing you
want to lay at me. So it's the greatest feeling.
And when that final outsp I just remember we were
up three oh, and we're winning, and we get to
the ninth inning and I'm just in the back of
my mind, I'm just like, this is really gonna happen.
I'm really gonna win the World Series of Chicago White Sox,
thir team that hasn't won, a city that hasn't won
in eighty eight years, and the party is going to
(27:17):
be unbelievable. And as soon as that final out made
it is, you just think about everybody that ever helped
you along the way and just there's so much emotion
that has led out by everybody. That's why the parties
are so crazy. Yes you're happy, obviously, but it's just
such an outpouring of emotion because of all the things
and all the people and all the steps you think
about that you had to get there. It just makes
it all worth it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
AJ the best man a J. Presientski World Series Champion
O five with those White Sox. Of course, you can
check out his podcast called falla Territory. You see him
on Fox Sports. AJ thanks so much for joining us.
Let's talk as the series rolls on.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
H Right, Doug, who's going to be the coach at OSU.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
At Oklahoma State?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I think either GJ. Kinney who's at Texas who was
a Tulsa quarterback, or Zach Robinson who was a quarterback there.
His mom was a palm there and he's the offensive
coordina with the Falcons. Those would be my two early leans.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I'm not telling me who's going to coach Florida?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Please, man, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I mean, you know, that's one of those. It's so weird.
They just haven't been able to figure out since Urban right. Oh,
I know, Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know
how you do it there? I mean, I look, my
thing would be this when hiring college coaches. Again, this
(28:32):
is from experience now, taking over a basketball program, you
gotta hire. I even think hiring Zach and I love Zach.
He's a great, dude, But if you hire him, you
got to have that plan in place now because when
the portal opens, it's kind of too late. Those guys
are already spoken for, and you gotta have a plan
in place for the portal because you can't just pick players.
(28:55):
You gotta have an identity of, Hey, we're gonna play
this way, and here's the guys who we're gonna get.
So if whoever you hire, they got to have their
staff kind of in place for these last three or
so weeks of the season so that they're up and running,
and then the second the portal hits, they've already have momentum.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
They're smart, Doug. Is anyone ever told you're pretty smart
about this college stuff?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah? Except for I won four games last year, So
what the hell do I What the hell do I know? Hey, Jay,
you're the best man. I appreciate you joining us. It
is a difference, but it's the same thing though. It's
the same thing. Dan, Hey, speaking of portal, did you
hear this is Kelvin Sampson yesterday, head coach of Houston
obviously lost a national championship game. This is this is
Kelvin Samson talking about the transfer portal.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
But at some point somebody's got a step up and
say this is wrong. It's not what we signed up for.
It's not what they signed up for. That's not fair
to them either, it's not fair of their parents. You know,
we're still at an educational institution, but there's nothing educational
about college basketball right now. It's all transactional. And then
we go put our head in the sand in that like,
(29:58):
well it'll change eventually. Think how many ads five years
ago said, ah, this will play out. This won't last.
Same guys are saying it today.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
This won't last.
Speaker 9 (30:08):
It's going to outlast all of us because that toothpaste
is out of the tube and you ain't putting it
back as and ain't them control of it?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
But what can you control? You can control that transfer
for me, and.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
I'm adamant that we are positively impact in lives. If
we tell a kid that he has to set out
for a year, transfer, you get one transfer anywhere you
want with no penalty, transfer and go play right away.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
But you can't do that every year.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Completely agree, Completely agree. You know I don't even love
the play right away, but transfer and and after that
if you have to sit out I guess you could
have him sit out right and you can't hold guy's hostage.
But the multiple transfers is what makes it really really difficult.
(31:00):
It does, I just don't know if it'll hold up
in court, right. That's like kind of the big thing
is you'd have to have all of these things have
to be collectively bargained, and then you have a contract.
The contract has to have a non compete clause, and
there has to be a buyout of those contracts. Most
(31:21):
of the new contracts in college basketball for freshmen high
level freshmen are two year contracts because the expectations are
they don't play their first year and people don't want
to invest money in somebody the first year and then
lose them in the second year.
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Speaker 8 (32:25):
The press.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
All right, Doug.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I don't know if you caught it or others caught it,
but it's started to make its rounds on social media.
The news of the day is the FBI arresting Terry Rozier,
Chauncey Billups, and Damon Jones as part of the scheme
that the FBI uncovered the sports gambling scheme and illegal
poker games that were backed by the mafia. FBI arrested
(32:50):
the three and separate arrests earlier today. Last night, Phillips
was coaching as Trollblazers in their season opening game against
the Timberwolves. Blazers lost that game. This is what Billups
had to say in the post game.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
You know, I don't I don't that pressure thing is
nothing to me. Man, I do the best I can
and let the chips fall what they may You know
that about me? But now quick, oh jeez.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Chips fall? Were they chips? That's a you know, that's
a that's a poker reference.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Just got to play with a hand that you're dealt. Yes,
you do, even if it's rigged, even if it goes
to Have.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You seen the social media posts where people are showing
what those the glasses that can look through cards?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I miss those?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah? Google those pretty good? My my, all my coaches
and players are in there checking it out. They're like
they can't believe this stuff exists.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
And again, if you missed it.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
The person who got this the worst was heat guard
Terry Rosier, who had to hear this from NYPD Commission
Jessica Tish.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
As the NBA season tips off. His career is already benched.
But for integrity.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Oh uh so great. By the way, last night you
talked about what a great night. It was great night
for Victor Webbin Yama. Cooper Flagg doesn't score until the
second half of his debut against the Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
He was the point guard against the assists No assists.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, VJ.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Edgecomb had the huge game for the Sixers, but missed
the free throws late that could have cost them against Boston.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
But it is holy cow good night in the league.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah, yeah, real good night, all right, Doug.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
In other news in the NFL, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson
practiced on a limited basis for the second straight days
he tries to return from his hamstring injury. Ravens had
the Bears coming to town on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Hey, did you say Aaron Jones is playing tonight?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Aaron Jones is expected to play tonight. Activated from IR.
The team opened the practice window for Jones earlier this week,
but he's expected to return from his hamstring injury to
face the Chargers fifteen Eastern.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
If you were a guy that had had a fantasy
team that was in first place and had Aaron Jones
had been sitting there, would you play Aaron Jones tonight?
Do you think you'll get the reps tonight to make
it worth it?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Well, it's all line up based because it is a
sixteen bye week this week in the NFL, so there
are likely gaps on your roster.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I still other running backs. My other running back is
Cam Scattabo Jonathan Taylor, but I think I can play
him over Sean Tucker, who I picked up before.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Although Mike Garofalo just tweeted that the Buccaneers have eighteen
players appearing on their injury practice report this week. That
doesn't even include Mike Evans, who's on ir after fracturing
his collarbone against the Lions on Monday. But eighteen players
on the injury report. The Buccaneers have the Saints coming
up on Sunday. Baker Mayfield was upgraded to fully a
(35:58):
full practice participant, by the way, Doug. Speaking of the Saints,
NFL ins otter Jordan Schultz says that New Orleans could
be shopping wide receivers Chris Olava or Rashid Shahid prior
to the deadline coming up in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Here took some names to.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Watch and the Toronto Blue Jays are going to start
Trey as Savage on the mound for tomorrow night's game
one of the World Series Dodgers countering with Blake Snell.
He was named the starter earlier this week, but it's
Snell against the Savage tomorrow night in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I mean Blake Snell was so good and he's been
so good in World Series. The only question is how
long can he go right? And remember, though this Blue
Jay's team eats up left hand pitching. We'll see if
that plays into the Blue Jays favor or Snell's so
good that hook is amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And finally, Doug, you mentioned the Aaron Jones return.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
I do have to mention uniforms Chargers wearing their Navy
super Charger uniforms.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah, it's tonight's least favorite.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Really, I like this, I like these mixing it up.
I also liked last week's as well. But they'll be
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Doug Gottlieb Show, and subscribe. So the big story of
the day, this is a gigantic story. Is this gambling
probe and uh it's got why tapping fraud, racketeering? Here
(01:04):
here's a question, just to question to you guys, Do
you guys know what racketeering is? We use the racketeering
term all the time. Do you know what racketeering is?
Chase two? Are you do?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Are?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Do you know racketeering? What it actually means?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It has something to do with money, an organized crime,
like trying to get money out of people somehow.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, I mean it's basically extortion, right, extortion is another
year for racketeering. It's it's uh uh god, how to
how to describe it?
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Go ahead, Dan Buyer, Yeah, No, I was just gonna say,
why do you do that to us? Like why do
you try to? Why don't you just tell us what
racketeering is as well?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We don't necessarily no, Like I thought, racketeering is rigging
a system. That's what I think of it as it's
a racket, right, That's where the term, ah, it's a
racket comes from. But it's one of those words that
we all use or we all repeat, and I don't
think most of us know it. I'm gonna tell you myself.
(02:06):
Included right, like racketerias I'm looking at up in Wikipedia,
is a type of organized crime in which the perpetrators
set up a coercive fraudulent, extortionary and otherwise the illegal
coordinated scheme or operation. So it's like, when you put
everything together, right, that's racketeering. That's a racket. That's when
(02:28):
the term rigged is. It's when it's all put together.
It's like, Dan, you and I were both aligned on
the part of this story which is the most interesting
is the line that I was reading where where you know,
they use these special card counters right where they can
(02:50):
mark cards, they had X ray poker tables. You're like, what,
And then when they would when people would owe them money,
then they would you know, threaten violence if they didn't pay,
and they would extort them with illegal gambling. All of
that is racketeering. It's like when you put in every
one of those little factors through a grand scheme, that's racketeering.
(03:11):
That's where the term it's a racket comes from. And
I'll bet there's a lot of people going like, hey,
I've used that term, it's a racket. I didn't know,
and I've used racketeering before and I didn't actually truly
knew what it meant. But that's what I was doing
when when we were talking with I was looking at
what racketeering. Is what changes because of this? Dan Byer like,
(03:34):
what what happens? What's the reaction to this story?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Well, I think there's a there's a lot and I'll
even Jason passed along something that Mike Florio had tweeted about,
which is what I said in our first hour. What
did he say that the the trimming down of prop
bets could end up happening from from sports books.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Yeah, he said something like in the states that sports
gambling is legal, they will make prop bets it.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Yeah, I just I don't understand why there are why
there are lines on Terry Rosier stats.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's it comes from fantasy football and fantasy and then
became fantasy basketball that people were basically betting on this
forever and they're like, hey, you know, if people want
to bet on it, let's let's bet on it. And yeah,
it's a complete and abject disaster. Who could have seen
it coming? Everybody? Everybody, because so much of it's so
controllable by the person. And I think the assumption, and
(04:30):
I think it's an arrogant assumption that were like, these
guys make too much money to ever get involved in
this stuff, right, That's the that's the thought. But how
much money you make that it just increases the volume
of what you're gonna do to bet Right, you're trying
to you're trying to unleash that dopamine. You know, this
(04:55):
risky behavior, Jay Stu. Outside of the prop that's what
else changes does it? Does this story change anything?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Probably not. I hope it would. I hope it would.
But you mentioned what's his name, Donahue, Donaghue's story.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, yeah, we all thought that.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Was going to change the world, and it didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I don't know what would like If you were to
ask the average NBA fan or you're going to stop
watching the sport, or you're going to stop going to games,
stop buying the March because of something like this, I
think ninety nine percent of people would say no. That's
the weird thing about this is that the FBI is
taking this very serious and they're going to convict people
that are guilty of crimes, federal crimes. I just don't
(05:38):
know if the consuming public is going to change the
way they consume the sport.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
I do think that when we talk about the Tim
Donahue situation, we look at it like we do the
David Stern frozen envelope deal with Patrick Ewing, where we
think this stuff isn't on the up and up because
it quote benefits the NBA, right, Like, this is what
the NBA wants. The NBA didn't want Sacramento in the
(06:04):
NBA Finals. They wanted the Lakers in the NBA Finals.
So that's where I think that this is. Well, maybe
all under the same umbrella, this is a different portion
of it because I don't know what the motivation is
to where you would keep Sacramento out of an NBA finals.
But if we're betting on Terry Rozier's stats, who is
(06:28):
that really benefiting? Like I always felt that the rig
notion of it was not that we looked at money
but just on teams success. Oh, it's better for the
NBA when the Lakers win NBA titles so they can
make more money. That's how I feel. Generally, we looked
at the NBA being fixed, not in a way that
could screw us or screw other betters. So that's what
(06:50):
I think is unique about this. I think it's different.
I don't know, to your guys point what else can
be done. I just don't think that they're necessarily the same.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Does Chauncey Billups regain his position as head coach of
the port?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Not a chance.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, hold on, yeah, okay, I believe you, and I
genuinely agree with you. But let me pitch something to
you here. Okay, we're reading an indictment, an indictment, we're
reading what they have on him. And so what they're
saying was he was he got people to join this
poker game, which was a rigged poker game. He'd use
(07:26):
this celebrity status, Hey, you should play poker with my guys.
They played this rig poker game, and then they cut
him in on fifty grand from the poker game. That
that's how read to me? Is that how read you?
Dan By? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And then he even took part in some of these games.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Right, Okay, The question becomes did he can they prove
that he knew it was rigged or was this just
a like anything? He's mister big shot, he's Chauncey Billups. Listen,
all you gotta do is play in this poker game.
We're gonna give you fifty grand. That's it. That's all
you gotta do. So that that's there becomes the plausible deniability.
(08:02):
Do I think they would arrest him without like a
text message that shows that he knew. I'm guessing they
probably have some evidence pointing to it. If they don't
have evidence that he knew, he will coach again in
the NBA. If they have evidence that he knew it
was a rigged game, he will never coach again in
the NBA.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Well, he also he also has been connected to There
was some information that he told somebody that the Blazers
were tanking and that they were not going to have
four players play in a game, and there was unusual
betting activity surrounding that. Yeah, yeah, I just I don't
think Johnson Billips is gonna have any friends, at least
(08:42):
the ones that, hey, I wouldn't be able to trust them.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's amazing, amazing stuff. I mean, Terry Rogier will never
play sport together. He's that one's cooked. That one's pretty easy, right.
I can't see any world in which he plays in
an NBA game Big three. Maybe he goes goes Big three, right,
but I don't see it otherwise. It's crazy though that,
(09:07):
Like I almost feel bad for Adam Silver because he's
getting crushed today. Meanwhile, the product last two nights has
been great. Webin Yama had forty last night on twenty
one shots. Looked completely back, completely healthy, and he looked
like the guy that we were told he could become.
(09:29):
And no one is talking about it once the story
drop because the story way more salacious, even though it doesn't.
John Spill's team stinks. Terry Roziers, not a particularly impactful
player in the NBA, doesn't actually have anything to do
with anything that matters, but it's the pr the public perception,
and they are getting just eviscerated because of it.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I'll say, I'll take it a step further, so we
work on the talk space here right, National talk Space.
I'm not talking about your MBA podcast, why not, But
I would venture to say that, like after this first
week bump, we don't really talk MBA in great detail
unless there are major storylines. Yep, you're right until after
the super Bowl. So we're spending this real estate where
(10:14):
we could be talking about, as you say, the positive
on this story.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah. And and by the way, as much as I
would like to talk about Victor webbin Yama, I wouldn't
be doing my job because that's not the big story
of the day. This will lead every newscast everywhere anywhere.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
I don't see anything more people would want to hear
about this stuff than Victor Webbin Yama's night last night.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Of course they weah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Of course, if it bleeds, it leads. We love that.
We love this stuff. But again I actually feel I
actually feel bad, Like even the story about another How
about these college basketball coaches where they're like Izzo yesterday
with the impassioned thing about G League players and be
recruited and Kelvin Samson and then there's another G League
(11:02):
player and guess who's like one of three schools for me?
You guys think Calvin Sampson. Funny how that works, right,
because all of us are in the same boat where
we're like, yeah, this these the lack of rules is
really crazy. We just try and get good players. We
don't like it, but we also want to win and
this is the only way to win. Even that story nothing,
It's going to all be about gambling. And Jason, you
(11:27):
and I we've been talking about this for years. They
keep making gambling more and more and more accessible to
more and more people. And I understand that the gambling
industry is like, look where a lot of these red
flags come up because we actually monitor all of these bets.
And the more you make it legal, the easier it
(11:48):
is for us to monitor because the illegal ones go away.
They're they're the non regulated ones. That's how you get
the mafia involved, that's how you get this is how
you get the mafi out of it. But the more
you open up access to it, less people can control
their gambling. It's so accessible. The numbers they start small
and then they build up. My guess is there will
(12:11):
be a lot more of these. I actually think this
has way less impact than people think, even though we're
going to talk about it. Whatever, There's been other gambling
stories NFL players, and all they've done is allow more
access to NFL players to bet on other sports. When
those of us who've been alive long enough, like all
of these stories are the same guy starts out betting
(12:33):
a little bit here, betting a little bit there, then
works their way into debt. Then you get into such
a debt where somebody pops up and goes, hey, you
want to wipe off that debt? Yeah, I can't really
cover it. Okay, if you don't want to cover it
and you can't pay the fig there is another way.
What's the other way?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Just this week? Just this week there you know the
bookie that may that made all the bets for Otani's interpreter.
He's been making the rounds and I, uh, I definitely
would say to listeners, you should find that sound. The
bookie gives in great detail what was going on, and
(13:11):
and he says that, you know, people say that, what's
the big problem that Otani's interpreter was only gambling on soccer,
like ninety five percent of his bets were on soccer.
And the bookie points out, like, that's just the stupidest
betting you're gonna do is on soccer because you lose
on ties. But anyways, so the uh but he's like,
(13:31):
you don't you know, you don't see the forest beyond
the trees. It's not necessarily that Otani can't affect soccer games.
It's what happens when you get in deep and then
you have access to a star player the next thing.
People aren't really seeing what happens next.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, it's what happens next. And I I think the
more we oh, we're gonna take down prop bets, like okay,
so that stops people from gambling on their sport when
they see the lines. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah,
but the problem still exists. It doesn't change the nature
(14:12):
of human beings trying to bet and make money quickly
and then thinking they can cover it up.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
You know what I love about this? Have you guys
seen the shots of Terry Roseier. It is, and I'm
using air quotes, ankle injury. So if a guy gets
hurt in the NBA, what do they do. They put
him at the end of the bench, maybe they take
him in the locker room, team doctors around him, whatever
the deal is. So Rosier goes out of this game,
not a team doctor in sight around him. In fact,
(14:41):
there are open chairs next to him on the bench.
He then is grabbing his ankle like adding to it. Again,
no team doctors around. And then there's another shot where
he has disappeared and gone into the locker room. But
if anybody gets it's hurt in an NBA game, players
(15:02):
are helping them there, helping them walk off, team physician
comes over, somebody's looking at them end of the bench,
take him in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
None of that.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
It was all a great acting job by Terry Rozier,
and I'm saying that facetiously. It was it sticks out
like a sore thumb if you are looking for it.
It was great, It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's really really funny.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Also, did you hear New York NYPD commission Jessica Tish.
She stuck it to Terry Rosier ready for this one.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
As the NBA season tips off, his career is already benched,
not for injury but for integrity.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Whoa betty, they call this operation nothing but net and
royal flush.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Ah play that one again. That was so clever.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Stuck it to him.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
As the NBA season tips off, his career is already benched,
not for injury, but for integrity.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
We got him, book him down. You know, gosh, you
know she went back and she she gave the fist pump.
Yes at Obama fist pump. Huh h you you you.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Rosier had to be shocked when he heard that.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
As the NBA season tips off, his career is already benched,
not for injury, but for integrity.
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Series when they broke the curse with the Chicago White
(17:11):
Sox in two thousand and five. You can now hear
him on Fox Sports. He also has a podcast called
Foul Territory and he joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
I got to ask you about the story of the day, Aj, Like, obviously,
baseball players a lot of time in your hands, a
lot of time together. Card games are you know everybody
(17:33):
knows guys play cards, Guys play cards. Whatever, these gambling
allegations in the NBA, and these stories about like Russian
mafia or just old school Italian mafia guys and see
through cards, X ray X ray tables and glasses whenever,
what's your reaction when you hear this story today?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's insanity, right, It's absolutely insane in saying to me
that this is where we're at in uh, in sports,
in life. I mean didn't. I mean, I'm not saying
any these guys did anything, but man, for as much
as they made in their careers, that they really need
a couple of hundred thousand extra.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, I guess there's there's never enough, or you get
you get in too deep. You know how guys are
they getting too deep? You're like, hey, do you want
to come out of your pocket for this or you
want to make it up to us? And some of
them are helping out there. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, my question, my question for y'all is like you know,
my buddy, am I just asking not long ago, like
did you gamble on other sports when you played? And
I was like no, because even if you lose and
you get too far down and you're like, okay, I'm
a couple of hundred thousand down, and you know, if
you're married, you don't want to write that check right
and have your wife's seat or make that thanks statement.
(18:47):
So if someone came to you and they're like, well,
if you're not paying, we're going to break your arm,
go after your family or throw a game, you know,
just don't put yourself in that position, is the only
thing I can say.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
And again, no, I.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I get I get it. But yeah, yes, that's why
I don't know why they're letting college kids bet on
stuff now can bet on pro sports?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Why wombling every listen? Gambling is everywhere, That's why? And
would you rather listen if it wasn't regulated, Doug, You
know that it wasn't regulated, we'd never know about this.
So thank goodness is regulated, and now we can keep
some sort of an idea of what's happening and try
to police it a little bit if you can, you know,
But like, if it wasn't regulated, we never even know
(19:24):
about this stuff. Same thing about the two guys in baseball,
the two pictures of the guardians that threw the balls,
and there was a big thing on them. If if
we didn't have it regulating and it was just you know,
the old bookkeeper, the old booky way, we never would
have known it, never really would ever had any idea there.
Certain things are being accused, Certain guys were being accused
of doing certain things that are just not good.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Aj Persinski's our guest. He're on the Doug Gottlief Show.
Let's get to Baseball World Series is upon us. It's
very easy for those of us who weren't star players
World Series champions to sit there and go, shay, hey,
tany greatest performance ever? What what did you think when
you were watching Game four?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The greatest performance I've ever seen in my lifetime because
of the stage, because of the moment, like he it
helped him get to the World Series. He pitched, and
I know guys have pitched and hit multiple home runs
before in the regular season, but they've never gotten into
post and you know, had six hittings, ten strikeouts, two
(20:25):
hits and three home runs and one that went out
of the stadium. Like what he seriously is not I mean,
people call me unicorn. He's like an alien. It's like
he's the greatest player, all around player that I've ever
seen as far as hitting and pitching. I didn't c
Bay Bruce, and there's been some other guys that have
tried it, but as far as like just the unicorn alien,
whatever you want to call him, he's all those things
(20:47):
and he's the best. I can't even describe how hard
it is to do what he's doing. Hitting is impossible,
and then to throw the pitching on top of it
is incredible.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox sportrait that's a j
Perzinski And obviously that Fa that famous run in five
started with you guys taking down the Angels. You know five, right,
So we remember Vlad Guerrero as and I was an
Angel fan, but a baseball fan growing up. Going back
to his expo day, says he was like the best
(21:16):
bad ball hitter in baseball. It felt like the best
place to throw it to Vlad Guerrero was right down
the middle because it was at as toes he would
hit it out of the park. It was that his eyes,
he would hit it out of the park, right. And
and I thought, Jason Stewart's my producer AJ and He's like,
I've been so over the NEPO babies or whatever, but
(21:37):
here's the dude who has lived up to it, has
lived up and he's been as much as Shohey was
great in one game, he's been amazing the whole playoffs.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Uh, he's been the best hitter of the entire playoffs.
And why does Jase hate Neo babies? I think, you know,
his kids must not be any good at sports or
some radio. His kids must not be good at any
good at radio, so that I don't know. I mean,
the Bubba Chef's pretty good. Some guys that have been okay,
is Junior, I mean King Griffy Jr.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Right baseball as well. I'm close with the Holiday Boys.
They're awesome. They're awesome as well, awesome kids.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And exact and good players exactly. So I just I
don't know. I mean, if it's been unbelievable, but but
it's the best hitter in baseball right now in the postseason.
What he's cut a strikeout down, he's cut a swing
and miss down, He's locked it in. And he's so
fun to watch. I mean, listen, if you're not a
baseball fan, tune in to watch Blag Guerrero. He's smiling,
he's laughing, he's having a good time. Not in an
(22:37):
off putting way at all either. Like when I say that,
I mean he's literally having a good time at the
right times and handling his strikes out he's like, Okay,
I'll get him next time, knowing that he will, and
it's just he's so fun to watch on defense and
they get turned double players and they get out. You know,
he sees the excitement on his face. He's cheering for
his other team, his teammates.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I mean, this dude is.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Everything you can ask for. Oh yeah, by the way,
he's just signed a five hundred million dollar contract and
he's the face of Canada and baseball in Canada.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Rest versus rust, How do you think it overrated?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I hate this talk. I hate this You know why
because in twenty five, twenty years ago, we had all
kinds of time off and you know what, we just
going out and kicked everyone left. So I'm so sick
of the rust. You know, who complains about the rust
is a too much rest the team that loses. Yankees
and Dodgers both had time off. They were in the
World Series last year right now, the Dodgers had to
play a wild card game, Wildcard round. And you can
argue that it was a scrimmage game, because some people
(23:33):
say that because they played against the Reds. But the
Bluejays had time off and they went out whooped Yankees. Right,
so the Marrors had time off, they beat they beat
the Tigers who came in hot. So I just don't
get this argument. It's just because when you lose, you
have to find the reason. It just can't beat that.
You just got beat And it's always something. This started.
Excuse me, it started in two thousand and six, I
think when the Tigers lost to the Cardinals in that
(23:56):
World Series and they made a bunch of errors on
the mound and they didn't really hit they just that
was when the first tear I ever heard about. Oh,
we had too much rest? What we wanted rest in
the playoffs? Are you kidding me? Because you've got days off,
your beat up, tired, you're worn out like I wanted,
especially for my pitchers. Like we can set a rotation,
we can line up our bullpen, our hitters, get some
(24:17):
days off, we can take some you know, shrimmage game
stuff like I wanted the rest. So I just don't
believe in that, And it's one of my least favorite
excuses in all sports.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. AJ Prazinski
is our guest. Dodgers' bullpen Game one. It was shaky
despite the vact. Snell was amazing. Uh, they survived it,
but they had such incredible starting pitching. So again, rest
is not an issue there. It's just a matter of
what do they do in seven, eight and nine. It
(24:49):
looks like they know who they want in nine. But
you know he couldn't close out Game one. He stopped
trying him back there? Who's been up and down? What's
your level of confidence in the Dodgers' bullpen in the
biggest in baseball?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You don't need a lot if if your starter at
to eight and nine like smelling Uh jong Loto did
in one and two and then Glassdow did what's seven
innings and then show he did six and they had
a lead. Uh, I don't know that. Here's my confidence sector.
I'm confident Rokie, I'm confident in Vestia. After that, I
don't know. And trying to do what he did last year?
(25:23):
Will Kershaw be a factor? Will and she and be
a factor? Bond did to be a factor. Who's it
gonna be that's gonna step up not named Rokie and
not named Vessia and get big outs for him. But
it's the same for the Blue Jays. For me, you
have to have hoffin, you have to have some other people.
But can the lefties get out the lefties of the Dodgers,
meaning show hey Freddie and Max Munsey and can they
(25:43):
can they use their lefties properly to get those guys out.
I don't know, but for me, the biggest those are
the two biggest question marks in this series is can
can't which bullpen handles better? And can the Blue Jays
starting pitchers match the Dodger starting pitchers as far as
zeros an innings and give their both a chance and
give their kidders a chance to finally break through.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. What's it
like to catch a World Series game? To win a
World Series and you're catching? What's that like?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's the greatest feeling you can ever have as a player,
because team wise, not individual wise, things happen, but team
wise it's more important because everybody remembers, Like I wasn't
a guy that said any kind of you know, all
time records for home runs or hits or any of
that stuff, but everybody remembers the first question you get.
(26:35):
Nobody nobody ever asked you, Hey, how many hits did
you have? I mean they do, but the first question
you get is do you have a ring? And so
when you get that ring, it's ultimate, like that's you
to everybody, like, yeah, I got my ring. You know,
you can never take it away from me, no matter
how much you want to say this or that about me.
I always have this ring and it's in my back
pocket and I can always pull it out as a
(26:56):
trump card for anything you want, any other thing you
want to lay at me. So it's the greatest feeling.
And when that final outsp I just remember we were
up three oh, and we're winning, and we get to
the ninth inning and I'm just in the back of
my mind, I'm just like, this is really gonna happen.
I'm really gonna win the World Series of Chicago White Sox,
thir team that hasn't won, a city that hasn't won
in eighty eight years, and the party is going to
(27:17):
be unbelievable. And as soon as that final out made
it is, you just think about everybody that ever helped
you along the way and just there's so much emotion
that has led out by everybody. That's why the parties
are so crazy. Yes you're happy, obviously, but it's just
such an outpouring of emotion because of all the things
and all the people and all the steps you think
about that you had to get there. It just makes
it all worth it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
AJ the best man a J. Presientski World Series Champion
O five with those White Sox. Of course, you can
check out his podcast called falla Territory. You see him
on Fox Sports. AJ thanks so much for joining us.
Let's talk as the series rolls on.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
H Right, Doug, who's going to be the coach at OSU.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
At Oklahoma State?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I think either GJ. Kinney who's at Texas who was
a Tulsa quarterback, or Zach Robinson who was a quarterback there.
His mom was a palm there and he's the offensive
coordina with the Falcons. Those would be my two early leans.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I'm not telling me who's going to coach Florida?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Please, man, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I mean, you know, that's one of those. It's so weird.
They just haven't been able to figure out since Urban right. Oh,
I know, Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know
how you do it there? I mean, I look, my
thing would be this when hiring college coaches. Again, this
(28:32):
is from experience now, taking over a basketball program, you
gotta hire. I even think hiring Zach and I love Zach.
He's a great, dude, But if you hire him, you
got to have that plan in place now because when
the portal opens, it's kind of too late. Those guys
are already spoken for, and you gotta have a plan
in place for the portal because you can't just pick players.
(28:55):
You gotta have an identity of, Hey, we're gonna play
this way, and here's the guys who we're gonna get.
So if whoever you hire, they got to have their
staff kind of in place for these last three or
so weeks of the season so that they're up and running,
and then the second the portal hits, they've already have momentum.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
They're smart, Doug. Is anyone ever told you're pretty smart
about this college stuff?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah? Except for I won four games last year, So
what the hell do I What the hell do I know? Hey, Jay,
you're the best man. I appreciate you joining us. It
is a difference, but it's the same thing though. It's
the same thing. Dan, Hey, speaking of portal, did you
hear this is Kelvin Sampson yesterday, head coach of Houston
obviously lost a national championship game. This is this is
Kelvin Samson talking about the transfer portal.
Speaker 9 (29:38):
But at some point somebody's got a step up and
say this is wrong. It's not what we signed up for.
It's not what they signed up for. That's not fair
to them either, it's not fair of their parents. You know,
we're still at an educational institution, but there's nothing educational
about college basketball right now. It's all transactional. And then
we go put our head in the sand in that like,
(29:58):
well it'll change eventually. Think how many ads five years
ago said, ah, this will play out. This won't last.
Same guys are saying it today.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
This won't last.
Speaker 9 (30:08):
It's going to outlast all of us because that toothpaste
is out of the tube and you ain't putting it
back as and ain't them control of it?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
But what can you control? You can control that transfer
for me, and.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
I'm adamant that we are positively impact in lives. If
we tell a kid that he has to set out
for a year, transfer, you get one transfer anywhere you
want with no penalty, transfer and go play right away.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
But you can't do that every year.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Completely agree, Completely agree. You know I don't even love
the play right away, but transfer and and after that
if you have to sit out I guess you could
have him sit out right and you can't hold guy's hostage.
But the multiple transfers is what makes it really really difficult.
(31:00):
It does, I just don't know if it'll hold up
in court, right. That's like kind of the big thing
is you'd have to have all of these things have
to be collectively bargained, and then you have a contract.
The contract has to have a non compete clause, and
there has to be a buyout of those contracts. Most
(31:21):
of the new contracts in college basketball for freshmen high
level freshmen are two year contracts because the expectations are
they don't play their first year and people don't want
to invest money in somebody the first year and then
lose them in the second year.
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to the press.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
The press.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
All right, Doug.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I don't know if you caught it or others caught it,
but it's started to make its rounds on social media.
The news of the day is the FBI arresting Terry Rozier,
Chauncey Billups, and Damon Jones as part of the scheme
that the FBI uncovered the sports gambling scheme and illegal
poker games that were backed by the mafia. FBI arrested
(32:50):
the three and separate arrests earlier today. Last night, Phillips
was coaching as Trollblazers in their season opening game against
the Timberwolves. Blazers lost that game. This is what Billups
had to say in the post game.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
You know, I don't I don't that pressure thing is
nothing to me. Man, I do the best I can
and let the chips fall what they may You know
that about me? But now quick, oh jeez.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Chips fall? Were they chips? That's a you know, that's
a that's a poker reference.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Just got to play with a hand that you're dealt. Yes,
you do, even if it's rigged, even if it goes
to Have.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You seen the social media posts where people are showing
what those the glasses that can look through cards?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No?
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I miss those?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah? Google those pretty good? My my, all my coaches
and players are in there checking it out. They're like
they can't believe this stuff exists.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
And again, if you missed it.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
The person who got this the worst was heat guard
Terry Rosier, who had to hear this from NYPD Commission
Jessica Tish.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
As the NBA season tips off. His career is already benched.
But for integrity.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Oh uh so great. By the way, last night you
talked about what a great night. It was great night
for Victor Webbin Yama. Cooper Flagg doesn't score until the
second half of his debut against the Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
He was the point guard against the assists No assists.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, VJ.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Edgecomb had the huge game for the Sixers, but missed
the free throws late that could have cost them against Boston.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
But it is holy cow good night in the league.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah, yeah, real good night, all right, Doug.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
In other news in the NFL, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson
practiced on a limited basis for the second straight days
he tries to return from his hamstring injury. Ravens had
the Bears coming to town on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Hey, did you say Aaron Jones is playing tonight?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Aaron Jones is expected to play tonight. Activated from IR.
The team opened the practice window for Jones earlier this week,
but he's expected to return from his hamstring injury to
face the Chargers fifteen Eastern.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
If you were a guy that had had a fantasy
team that was in first place and had Aaron Jones
had been sitting there, would you play Aaron Jones tonight?
Do you think you'll get the reps tonight to make
it worth it?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Well, it's all line up based because it is a
sixteen bye week this week in the NFL, so there
are likely gaps on your roster.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I still other running backs. My other running back is
Cam Scattabo Jonathan Taylor, but I think I can play
him over Sean Tucker, who I picked up before.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Although Mike Garofalo just tweeted that the Buccaneers have eighteen
players appearing on their injury practice report this week. That
doesn't even include Mike Evans, who's on ir after fracturing
his collarbone against the Lions on Monday. But eighteen players
on the injury report. The Buccaneers have the Saints coming
up on Sunday. Baker Mayfield was upgraded to fully a
(35:58):
full practice participant, by the way, Doug. Speaking of the Saints,
NFL ins otter Jordan Schultz says that New Orleans could
be shopping wide receivers Chris Olava or Rashid Shahid prior
to the deadline coming up in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Here took some names to.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Watch and the Toronto Blue Jays are going to start
Trey as Savage on the mound for tomorrow night's game
one of the World Series Dodgers countering with Blake Snell.
He was named the starter earlier this week, but it's
Snell against the Savage tomorrow night in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I mean Blake Snell was so good and he's been
so good in World Series. The only question is how
long can he go right? And remember, though this Blue
Jay's team eats up left hand pitching. We'll see if
that plays into the Blue Jays favor or Snell's so
good that hook is amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And finally, Doug, you mentioned the Aaron Jones return.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
I do have to mention uniforms Chargers wearing their Navy
super Charger uniforms.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah, it's tonight's least favorite.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Really, I like this, I like these mixing it up.
I also liked last week's as well. But they'll be
donning the Navy tonight. And that's the press, the get out.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
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Speaker 8 (37:08):
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