June 13, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug reacts to Danny Hurley's candid answer about what might entice him to take a job away from his current one at UConn, and how everyone has a number. Former NBA champion and current NBA analyst Antonio Daniels joins Doug to break down the calls made on Luka Doncic in game three and to discuss other NBA Finals headlines. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a Thursday edition of "The Press".
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but I invite the crew to go to my U.
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I guess my ex page is that what it is?
There is twitter page. I just posted something that I
just saw on social media. I want to make sure
I send it to all of you guys. Are you
guys watching this? It's it's a red Bull guy Okay,
and he's right, it looks like it's Dubai. Yeah, that's
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why I am big number one, number one. Wichita absolutely
shout out to Wichita. So he's being pulled on a
wakeboard by a drone and he's wakeboarding and it looks
like a small piece of water. Then you realize it's
a pool on top, like an infinity pool on top
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of a skyscraper. And then he goes off a jump
and you realize it's a skyscraper. Then he's free falling,
then he he does the parachute, and then he's walking
on a beach. There are so many levels of to
this which I would never and could never do, but
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just the idea of like how many times do you
do it before you fill to see if you can
do it sort of thing? Ready mean, like is this
the first take? Is this the fifth take? What happened
if it didn't work on the first take? I guess
is my question. That's like one of the most amazing
things I've ever seen. J Jay Stu, you are a
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resident thrill seeker? Could you pull this off?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I think it's really kick ass, and I think the
I think the one part that probably took the most
takes is him navigating that infinity pool to get to
a ramp that's not straight ahead, it's kind of off
to the side. Yeah, I'm guessing he had to do
that many times, which tells me he probably had to
open a shoot a few times to get to the
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bottom to get back up. No, but this is a
pretty kick ass. I encourage anybody to go to Gottlieb
Show on X right now.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Dan, are you? How are you with heights?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I'm fine with heights. I'm just not good on motion sickness.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, I mean would it Would you ever jump out
of a plane?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I thought that the rush of it, like the head
over heels stuff, I don't think that that would I'd
be pretty good at.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That, Sam, What about you? Where are you with heights
and jumping off of things and bungee jumping in parachuting
and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I would definitely try out skydiving.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I'm okay with heights as long as there's like a
barrier around me. One time, I had to do this
thing at summer camp where like I climbed this really
tall pole and had to jump off of it. I
was like hooked onto a wire and I had to
hit a bell. I had to like jump off it
and like hit a bell that was like maybe eight
feet away, And I was just petrified.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, I mean I think you guys, remember Jason, I
think you were with us last summer I went to
I took my son to Montana. And when we went
to Montana, we did ah not a ropes course. What's
it called? Where you where you sipline zipline right? And
I never get We got up there in the very first,
very first one, and you know, my son has zero
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fear of heights or anything. He's up there walking back
and forth and he's laughing at me, and then all
of a sudden there's a crackle of thunder and lightning,
which was a little bit too close. We had to
get down, and like his eyes got super big. So
what I determined was he wasn't scared of heights, but
he had a healthy respect for thunderstorms. But it actually,
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like you know, I was like, hey, if a little
kid can do it, I can do it. Push me
kind of over the threshold, and I do that even
I like roller coasters. But a lot of my you know,
we go to six Flags once a year, and a
lot of a lot of my desire or my ability
to get over that fear of heights and sometimes of
that motion is the fact that I'm with my son
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and you know, wanting to appear to be a wool
sweeter son, but also like he helps me kind of
get over that threshold. But this one, there's so many
levels to it to which I would never do. I
just can't imagine, you know, just even bailing out before,
like if you're if you're if you don't get the
angle of that jump, Like do you bail out early
and sink in the water? Do you go off the
edge and pull the pair? Shoot?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Stuff that could go wrong?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But by so many things that could go wrong.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
So it wasn't he wasn't being pulled by the drone
was following this guy right now?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
He's being pulled by the drone?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But also like what is he's being recorded by? I
would think a very fast drone?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Right correct?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
How are they following him through all this?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's crazy with a drone.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's two drones. One drone is pulling him and one
drone is following him.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
We have drones that are big and fast and strong
enough to pull humans.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, wow, I mean they have drones that can kill humans.
Two you do you do realize that right?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Those are war with this new technology, it kind of
erases this. But I always thought the crazy thing was
like when Bear Grills would go on his adventures, that
there would be a cameraman with him.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, so the cameraan just give him a sandwich. That
wasn't Wasn't that The whole thing with the Bear Grills
is like, yeah, it's really not that dire. He's got
camera people with it.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Well, now the other point was how about doing everything
he does and carrying a camera like that's actually, you know,
more difficult than actually what Bear Girls is doing.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Did you guys ever see the documentary Free Saul.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well, so it's about this guy that goes up Al
Capitan without any kind of equipment. Okay, so he just
goes up bare feet. And that's the crazy thing. The
whole documentary, you're thinking, who's the poor guy that has
to be in the camera getting the footage? You don't
even think about it. You just think it's just like
reality TV or something. But there's somebody who has to
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execute the camera.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Anyway, go to the Twitter. I just I'm still I
keep staring at over over again and go like, how
do you have the balls to do that? I just
I don't have that. That's not who I am I
want to play for you something from earlier today. Danny
Hurley's done kind of the media rounds. He was cool.
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He sent me a text We're into a pod upcoming.
But Danny was on. He did Lebotard show. I know
he did I think Matt Norlander who does college basketball
pod for CBS, and he did Colin Cowherd show and
he talked about, you know, the Laker job. And I
first of all, kudos to Danny. You know, so many
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people when they go through those sort of processes, they
don't want to talk about it. It's like, what's the
I don't know, what's the downside of talking about I
don't know. I was explaining to my son actually yesterday
or the day before, what the greatest disinfectant in the
world is, Sam, Do you know what the greatest disinfect
in the world does? Nope?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Oh, okay, Dah Buyer, I don't know, all.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Right, Jason Stewart, nothing for you. Sunlight. Sunlight the greatest
disinfecting the world. And uh, it's a it's both a
metaphor and a real thing too. Write that sunlights the
world's greatest disinfectant, and it's an expression used. But I
believe by a Supreme Court justice at at one point
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in time, which has kind of been quoted a phrase,
and that's what Danny did, was like Danny's like, you know,
like why do I have to lie about things? I
can just kind of tell the truth. And there's a
lot of takeaways from it, but the number one thing
is that there's always a number, right, and it's it
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goes back to the what was the movie about Las Vegas?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Indecent proposal? Do you remember you guys remember to do
some proposal?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Robert Redford Woody Harrelson to me Moore?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
M so de me Moore and Woody Harrelson go to
Las Vegas and if I remember correctly, like Woody Harrelson
is a terrible gambler, correct and uh kind of down
on the lock, need the money, and they're in a
casino and Robert Redford makes eyes at Demi Moore and
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at some point in time the movie and I probably
have to refresh on watch the movie. But when I
saw this story, he offered and again as at the time,
what a million dollars to sleep with? To me more
to Woody Harrelson, right, And it's one of those where
don't ever, ever ever take your wife or girlfriend to
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this movie or watch it or throw it. Don't ever
do it because it always begs the question like what
would you do? Baby? Baby? There's not a dollar amount
in the world, but there's always a number, right. Guys
do this all the time with different sorts of things.
And to some things maybe there's not a number, but
to many things there is a number. There is a number.
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And I think especially to this particular deal, where do
I think Danny knew he wanted a Laker job, like
you felt like if you listened to him, he tucked
himself into it, like, yeah, it's the Lakers, but he's
leaving behind a really good situation, a really good contract.
But we told you this yesterday. Go back and look
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at all the tweets, right Woe's tweet and the tweets
where the the expectations were, the the offer would be
in the one hundred million dollar range. And then when
he turned it down, he turned down six years, seventy
million dollars. What that said to me was that Hurley's
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people said, if you want to get this done, one
hundred million dollars is the number. Hit that number. There's
your coach, don't hit that number. And I don't know.
Here's Danny Hurley when asked if there was a number to.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Leave a place at any moment in your life.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
I think that to say that it's not a motivating
factor the finances to leave a place is definitely a
thing to stay at a place. I don't think it's
ever going to be a thing like to stay somewhere
like Yukon. If there wasn't, it would never have been.
I think a financial thing. Like Again, this wasn't like
some like pressure tactic to make me the highest paid
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college coach like that, that was already done.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
But to leave a place, to leave a place.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
That you feel the way we do, and the family
connection with my wife, my son's, my mother in law,
my brother, my father, you know who, Like I know
how much it means to my dad to go to
the Big East Tournament to leave all that behind.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
There probably is a number. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's not many dollars, Yes you do, that's the only
part to where eh And then a hundred million dollars
was it a guarantee that you do it? It's a lot.
That's a lot of money. You know, because then you
look and you're like, I don't know, Like what's hundred
million dollars? But there's the hundred million dollars. There's always
a number. And I think that's actually a fair way
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to look at things, Like he's a human being. It's
the liquors. It's a great job. Why do you take it?
They didn't hit the number. And when people have that
with their house, you have that with your car. You know,
do you want to move? Zillo has that right to
make me move? You can put on Zillo what it
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costs to make you move. I am not selling. This
house is my forever home. You want to give me
how much? And there's a comedian I don't remember his name.
I gotta look up, I gotta google it. Or he
did this thing on Sean Connery being the Dragon and
dragon Heart. You know, can you imagine the pitch of
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when they asked Sean Connery about being the dragon? This is,
sir Shorton Cornery. You want me to pray a dragon
or the voice of a dragon. I'm knighted. I'm how
much you know? And sure not? He played the voice
of a dragon. Everybody's got a number, and even Dan Hurley.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I think of that in commercials lately, of who was
willing to lend their song to the commercial. And now
there was even a there was even a commercial where
I can't remember the company, and I didn't want to
throw them under the bus, but there were three like
popular musicians that you would be like, Wow, these musicians
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really felt like they were anti establishment, and now they're not.
Only is it the music that's appearing in the commercial,
like they are actually appearing in the commercial sure, which
I was pretty that was pretty surprised about, right.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I mean, it's just it's so different than than Ben
Afflack and who's in the Duncan commercial? Tom Brady and
who else is Matt Damon? Right, Like they're really going
to get dressed up in there. So everybody's got a number.
I will not do that? Wait how much? Yeah, I'll
do whatever. Right, I'll do whatever. I think that's reasonable.
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Jay Stude, Do you have a number that would make
you move from from from Santa Clarita?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Of course no, No, I'm easily old. I work on radio,
so I any kind of money, this is.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's not choice numero uno?
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
This is that's where your girlfriend's from?
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
She from there.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, she's from there originally.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Okay, so does she have a number?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, she does too. Yeah, we've talked about this.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
The number for you for her is not very high though.
Let's just be honest, right you always talked about her,
her your super hot girlfriend. But if somebody said, hey,
if you have to ditch Jason, I mean know, we
even we get three figures.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Or four, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I already told her that you offered us your your
place in Newport for Freid.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah I did until yeah, until I move out. Yes, yeah,
I said you can. You absolutely could. You gotta come
visit the bank? Interesting, Well, they were going down, totally.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Cool, totally cool.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
No, No, he was hold on, I realize how close
Jason and I actually do live from each other.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I understand. Hold On, this is.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
To the point when Jason had his surgery that you
went over to his house and visited him but made
no reference to me even being in the area.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Did you have a surgical procedure where you know where you.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Had two birds with one stone, like, we aren't how
far apart are we? Fifteen minutes?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Jason?
Speaker 7 (15:26):
Would you say? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
But he makes a good point. You need to have
something awful happen to you, try to work on that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You do, you do make it, you do make a
really good point. Okay, I should have done the red
I did do the rounds. I had a there was
a birthday party and Jason's deal and I hadn't seen
Jason and I need.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
To sing it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Don't worry about it. Almost day however, I just but
I'm dumb, the worst of the worst. The how thing.
Thank you Jason for pointia. The house thing was he
was going down weren't you going to Newport or going
to Orange County? And I was like, why don't you
to stay at my house? I'm not even there, right?
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That was the conversation, was it, Jason? Sure?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Don't mean to say sure yet. I don't blow it.
Brush it aside, be honest about it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
No, No, I think that was the conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
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(17:01):
and let let's just start with the We'll work backwards
in terms of the rest of the game. But what
are your thoughts on the last couple of calls on
Luca dodgek.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
What do you mean by what were my thoughts? I
thought that Lucas should have been smarter. There are certain
situations where you have to understand how important you are
to the overall success of this team. And those two
last plays, the one on the baseline with him kind
of hooking Jalen Brown and then the one out top
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with him trying to take a charge, you have to
remove yourself in that situation. To remove yourself, it's not
even worth the risk to even put yourself out there.
And I thought they were both correct calls. I didn't
think either one of those calls was debatable. Mike for me,
I don't have any skin in the game. I could
care less who wins the NBA Championship. But the fact
of the matter is when you watch those, if not
like either one of those were poor officiated calls on Luca,
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those are situation since Luca have to understand how important
he is and remove himself from them.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Okay, well, so hold on on. I understand, and on
some levels there's a level of agreement there right where
you're like, dude, you're taking a charge there, But what
are you supposed to do? Like what do you like?
He gets you in the post? Well, he gets you
in the post, okay, and he attacks your body okay,
And Jalen Brown's clearly the aggressor there and goes right
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out his body, Like what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Like, listen, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be completely honest
with you, Doug. This may not be a popular answer,
but it wouldn't make time in this series that Luca's
been blown by.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I got I got I got, I got it. But
like do you I mean you literally open the gate
and let him go? Like I I disagree.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
With him both cold times? How many times in these
three games, has Luca opened the gate and let guys
go without him having four or five outs?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Uh? Too often? Too often? I mean, I look, there
are times in which Lively is behind him and that's
why he does it, right, Like Lively, Livelier, Gaffert or
safety nets or whatever, and let him do it. Whereas
that time it's series.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Not in this series, maybe in the Minnesota series, but
in this particular series, that's a huge difference because Lively
and Gafford aren't at the rim defensively, no doubt, they
have the honor for Zingis and they have to honor
Al Horford, sure, no question him being him being blown
by in this series stands out more because they're not
guarding Rudy Gobert, right, they're not arms with away from
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him to contest Anthony Edwards at the ram. Now you're
guarding the Celtics are the only team in this league
that they're top eight guys on legitimate three point shooters
that you have to honor. So now Lively and Gafford,
their defensive impact is much less than this series because
a lot of the time that they're spending defensively is
out at that three point line, chasing a legitimate three
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point shooter.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
No, no, no, listen, you and I have, of course completely
agree on that, right. That's the difference in the matchups
that have been created by the personnel that the Celtics have.
My point is more like, again, some of that stuff
is and there are times which Lively is there, right
and they kick it out to the corner and then
they kind of rotate around. But I just I don't
understand what like when you're he got one on one
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in transition, like the sixth foul, and you know you're
sitting there in some sort of stance, like you just
let him go. He went to his body, He went
right to his body. Should he remain on his feet? Yeah,
probably remained on your feet or whatever, But like, what
are you supposed to do there?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
No, we both know this. There are ways to play
through that. As much contact is allowed in the NBA
post All Star break, there are ways to play yourself
through that play where you can literally take a stand.
You can literally take a stand, take a bump without falling,
and the officials allow you to play on. I already
I got it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
But look, I'm just tell him, I'm gonna like you.
That's should be a no call in an NBA Finals
fourth quarter game when a guy drives in your body
you fall. No call.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
No, it's not a no call because Lucas tried to
draw a charge. He literally tried to draw a charge.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I got it. But again, you just do that, just
get you know, it's like that. You know, officials do that.
Get up. I can get up. I'm not giving you
that call, right, what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
And I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you.
We both know, and I think sometimes this is very
easy to forget that officials are human, right, use you're
always barking at the officials. If you're constantly barking at
the officials at all times, do you know what that means?
When there is a fifty to fifty call, you're not
going to receive the benefit of it.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Okay, you play, You played for it. Now, the era
of Spurs you played for, they weren't that bad, right,
you played for that was more goal. But when the
Spurs were the dominant team and Duncan was a little
bit older, no one could play more than Duncan like
Jim Duggan is never But this is different.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Come on, man, what we're seeing right now with all
duver spake, all doer spake, And it's amazing to me
how people as opposed to calling this what it is
are deflecting it to something or someone else. I have
talked about this with Luca all year long, all year Luke,
he is a fantastic talent, easily top five in the league,
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easily top five in the league. But what takes you
away from that talent is he complains almost every single
time down the floor. If he scores, he complains. If
he doesn't score, he complains. If he gets found, he complained.
If he doesn't get found, he complains. That wears officials down.
It wears him down. Now, I have played with guys
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that do complain. I've never played with a guy that
complains like that, though I have. It not even close.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
We're gonna next time we're together, we're gonna pull a
tape where you watch prime Duncan and you're Duncan was
in all time like all time great player. But man,
did he complain.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
All lot man?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And also point this out hold on. I also point out,
if you watched last night, those first couple of fouls
when he got called for foul, he stuck his hand up,
and so yeah, that's mean.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I agree, Yeah, but that's okay. But but here's the thing.
It's not those that's not the problem. But I end
up saying, I found it's not the problem. It's all
the other times when you shoot and you flail and
then you stay on the ground. And here's the thing,
it's not even about me. It's not even about me.
Let's look at the bigger picture here. The bigger picture
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here does is when you flail and you're on the
ground and you're talking to the officials, you are putting
your defense now in jeopardy now five on four Gordon
the other way, which eventually ends up in a wide
open three point shot for a excellent three point shooting
basketball team. So it's not just about me and how
much the constant complaining and bickering gets to me. It's
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the fact that he is putting his team at a
disadvantage every time he does it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Almost Antenna Dan is our guest here in the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's not let's
not take away from the Celtics, right right, I mean,
let's let let's not take away from from the Celtics.
There are so many parts of the Celtics team that
I like. Obviously, I think people are starting to understand
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Drew Holiday's value, But do people in the league understand
up until now how special that guy is.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I think so. I do think so. I am not
gonna lie to you, I think so. But I think
it's the fact that this league now honors and appreciates
offense more than the death defense. That's why J'm Milwaukee.
You try it way through how to day for Dame
Luller's They value Dame Luller's offense more than they did
Drew Holliday's professionalism, versatility, and defense. And that's that's today's NBA.
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I get it, that's today's NBA. But the thing about Drew,
what we're realizing about Drew Holliday now is no different
than what those of us that have known Drew have
always known about Drew. It doesn't He's a plug and
play player. It doesn't matter where you put him. He
is going to fit now. His role matters. His role matters,
and the difference with him with the Milwaukee the difference
(25:32):
with him now with the Boston Celtics is he's not
asked to do what he was asked to do in
New Orleans. He doesn't have to be Robins and then
sometimes Batman when Anthony Davis isn't available. He can be
a third option, he can be a fourth option, he
can be a fifth option, and you always know what
you're going to get on him from him on the
defensive side of the basketball. These are great roles for Drew.
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You can't win championships without guys like Derek White, and
without guys like Drew Holliday, you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
And I as well Al Holdeford as well. Yeah, yeah,
Now they can't be your Drew can't be your second
best player if you want to win a championship. But
if he's your third or worth best player, he can't.
And that's that's a really hard thing for fans to understand.
I think basketball people understand. They're like, well, how come
like if you take him here, It's like, no, he's
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if he's got to play both ends, great, if he
can add if you score you know, fourteen to seventeen
the game, great, If you got to have twenty five
from him, he does not have that. That is not
the best version of him.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
And in me being in New Orleans, me being the
Colorados for New Orleans. I hear this all the time
from Pelicans Chance like oh Man, Like, how come Drew
couldn't do that here? Well, the difference was Drew Howard.
They didn't have Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. He didn't
have Giannis, Anton Dagopo and Chris Middleton and Bobby Porter,
Bobby Porters, you know what I mean. So he had
to be the second best player in Boston. He doesn't
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have to be Batman, Robin or Alfred. He doesn't have
to be any of them. Because when he shows up
like he did in Game two, of course twenty nine,
it's fantast because Jason Tatum can go out and get
sixteen and Damon Brown can go out and go twenty three.
But now in Game three, when Drew Holiday only scores nine,
no one's tripping on it. So the lack of responsibility offensively,
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it's completely different. But this is the perfect role for him.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, your opinion
on JJ and the Lakers job. You've obviously know JJ,
You've covered JJ, you played against JJ. How hard in
assimilation will that be from player to analysts to coach.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
I don't think it'd be. I think the situation is
what matters more than anything else. And for me, it's
not about JJ Reddick. It's about the Los Angeles Lakers.
For me, for I don't and let me know if
I'm missing something here, Okay, but I don't understand hiring
a rookie head coach into a championship or bus situation
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because there's nothing he can do to succeed outside of
winning an NBA championship. Adrian Grifford, he goes to Milwaukee
in a championship er bus situation. You know what he
makes it halfway through the season. Darvin Ham gets hired
in La, goes the first season, loses to the eventual
NBA champions right then next season falls to that same
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team again and he's out. Because I just don't understand
the purpose of hiring a rookie head coach into a
championship er bus situation. But they weren't championship or bus
not like that. They were a good team. But it's
not like if they didn't win that they were going
to fire everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I don't think the Lakers don't win a championship. They're
gonna fire everybody.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Then then tell me, Okay, so here's the thing. What
are the Lakers looking for?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's a great question. I think somebody, somebody who can
coach Lebron is a big thing. I think, you know, look,
they're looking for something. Darvin was remarkably unimpressive in a
lot of different phases that people didn't.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Isn't what coach isn't though, That's the thing. Like, you
know what's funny is like when we talk about Anthony Edwards, Right,
he's twenty two years old. He's twenty two years old,
and when he has mistakes along the way, what do
we say about players?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
You tell me, I always say lots of well, right now,
he's young, so he gets away with well here you go,
there you go.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Thank's what we say about players. We give them the
grease to grow, we give them time to grow. But
with coaches, we don't offer them that same grace. Like
I can remember Greg Popovich. I can remember Greg Popovich
playing for Pop and him almost being fired, right, but
then them sticking with Pops for all these years, and
if he would have been fired, it would have changed,
of course, the NBA history. What I'm saying here is
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this does with coaches. I don't know why we expect
young head coaches to have it all figured out, like, oh, well,
Darvin Ham was unimpressive in a lot of areas. There
are a lot of young rookie players, throw a lot
of second year players. But we give players grace in
room to grow, but for some reason, we don't give
coaches that same grace.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I'm going to disagree. I agree with the statement in
this specific instance. I'm going to disagree only that the
same reason Frank got fired in Phoenix is the same
reason that Darvin got fired in LA And it's the
it's a bad fit for the locker room, right for Frank.
Frank is Frank is like an over prepare a basketball nerd,
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and he didn't have the relatability. He felt like he
was stand office in coaching Devin Booker. Right. Plus they
had you know, Kevin Young, who is like Devin Booker
loved and no one else liked the offense like it
was a weird mix. Right, But it was more that
Frank's style fit with Lebron. Frank loves the film room,
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loves the prep, loves to know everything everybody does, is
more of a hey, let's just go out and play
hard guy, and Lebron, especially Lebron especially likes that. But
Austin Reeves couldn't stand Darvin Ham like they had no
relationship at all. So I think it was a fit
for the locker room. And I don't know if JJ
is a fit for the locker room, but I think
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that's what they're looking for, is somebody who can fit
with whatever Lebron, Anthony Davis, and Austin Reeves they think
they need needs.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
And but here's the thing you just said, Frank Vogel
is more of a Lebron guy. Yes, he wanted Stambiasima
got fired. Yeah, so think about it. So what works?
What works? Like if I over prepare, if I overpare,
prepare and I win, then I get fired. Right if
i'm if I'm a tough guy and the whole guy's accountable,
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then I get fired. My question about the Los Angeles Lakers, Doug,
is what is their identity? Because how can you know
who to bring in when you don't know who you are?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
That's a great point. You can't, right, you can't, You
absolutely can't. I mean, like, look, there's there's there's a
million different ways to do this right, you can find
you know, Finch was that you got a lot of
G League guys, you know, for whatever reason, the Lakers
don't want a G League guy. You know, Brego was
an assistant, he's been doing it for a while, he's
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been a head coach, right, And then of course you
got JJ who I think, I think what they think
they have in JJ is pat Riley. That's what they
think they got, you know, And I don't I don't
know if that's who JJ is, and I don't know
if that's the fit with this group, but that's what
the Lakers seem to be searching for. And look, the
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Lakers are a mess. They don't have, you know yet,
you have you have an owner who has no idea
about the sport. You got you got Kurt Rambis and
and Rob Polinka, and that's it. They don't have the
layers of support that everybody else has in the league.
And so I think that's why they're kind of searching
for something in Rambis is probably sitting there going like, hey,
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this guy's like pat Riley. Pat Riley coach does to
all those championships.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Let's do that Okay, So so you said, you said
a minute ago, somebody who can coach Lebron? What does
that look like?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I don't know. I don't know. I mean, Tyler's the guy.
Tyler's the guy, but Tyler's under contract, right, And they
spread up.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
The question I would ask if I'm if I'm coming
in the coach the Lakers, if Lebron wants me to
challenge a call and I don't challenge it, it's my
job on the line, Like, how can I coach like that?
How can I possibly coach like that? When I understand
this league it's all about stars. I get it. And
the word that you hear thrown about from organization the
organization is accountability. How do I do this? How do
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I do this? How do I hold guys accountable while
implementing my culture right, being successful and still keeping the
star players within grasps of them not wanting to get
rid of me? How do I do this?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I don't know. It's a great question. It's one of
those jobs that you gotta take, but you know you're
ultimately gonna get fired.
Speaker 9 (34:06):
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Speaker 4 (34:44):
Damn fire Doug News just In And this involves a
former college basketball players headed to the NBA Draft. Former
Illinois hoopstar and draft prospect Terrence Shannon Junr found not
guilty on all charges of rape and aggravated sexual battery
stemming I'm an alleged incident last September in Laurence, Kansas.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, a really weird story. You went out time to
get into the details of it, but I do remember,
like I just I remember when he came back and played,
and I just remember the viciousness on social media and
the idea that do you really think Bret Underwood would
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play a player if he felt like there wasn't a
complete lack of evidence or some exonerating evidence, and when
people if you actually read the story and the accusations,
you'd be like, wow, this doesn't pass the sniff test.
So look again, I'm somebody who will continue to fight
for the rights of women and they should never be abused,
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but we also have to be really, really careful with
convicting somebody in the court of public opinion when there
has to be evidence in court to convict them.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I will say this, and I know I'm talking to
an active Division I college basketball coach, but I do
think to the first part, and it's nothing against Brad Underwood.
It's just the nature of the business that people do
think coaches will do anything to win in that scenario
about reading you know, the documents, and I don't think
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a lot of people did that.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
No, they didn't do any of it. I just tell you,
like I'll tell you personally. I can't speak for everybody,
but I do know Brad well enough, like, come on, man,
like we all want to win. But that's the type
of that's the type of heinous crime that if you
got any any doubts, you gotta stay with you.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
No, I totally understand. I just think that there are
people out there who do believe that. I'm not saying
that they're right or correct. You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I agree with you. That's I've said this before. If
you say you're a college basketball coach, there are people
that will put that below used car salesman. Right, sure,
oh boy? Like really anyway, I've.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Been keeping tabs on the US Open. Patrick Canleys at
five under. Rory McElroy is making a push. He's currently
three under part through twelve, as is Bryson Deshamba. Scotty
Scheffler's won over part through twelve. Tiger Woods, he is
currently plus four and nine shots back of the lead.
But there's this little nugget that came out from a
golf reporter, Sean Zach who said that the PGA Tour
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Policy Board is expected to vote next week to give
Tiger a lifetime exemption into all signature events on the
PGA Tour. Obviously, the signature events have been a topic
of conversation because of the loaded fields, but only with
seventy players. But Tiger could get a lifetime exemption into that,
which could help him play more events throughout the.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Year as well. He should, Right, the PGA Tour does
what the US women's national team has no idea of doing.
Tiger is good for business, just like Caitlin Clark is
good for business. With that, we better do the press
I get out there in press.
Speaker 9 (37:57):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
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Not excusing those calls, which I felt like took us
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but I invite the crew to go to my U.
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I guess my ex page is that what it is?
There is twitter page. I just posted something that I
just saw on social media. I want to make sure
I send it to all of you guys. Are you
guys watching this? It's it's a red Bull guy Okay,
and he's right, it looks like it's Dubai. Yeah, that's
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why I am big number one, number one. Wichita absolutely
shout out to Wichita. So he's being pulled on a
wakeboard by a drone and he's wakeboarding and it looks
like a small piece of water. Then you realize it's
a pool on top, like an infinity pool on top
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of a skyscraper. And then he goes off a jump
and you realize it's a skyscraper. Then he's free falling,
then he he does the parachute, and then he's walking
on a beach. There are so many levels of to
this which I would never and could never do, but
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just the idea of like how many times do you
do it before you fill to see if you can
do it sort of thing? Ready mean, like is this
the first take? Is this the fifth take? What happened
if it didn't work on the first take? I guess
is my question. That's like one of the most amazing
things I've ever seen. J Jay Stu, you are a
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resident thrill seeker? Could you pull this off?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I think it's really kick ass, and I think the
I think the one part that probably took the most
takes is him navigating that infinity pool to get to
a ramp that's not straight ahead, it's kind of off
to the side. Yeah, I'm guessing he had to do
that many times, which tells me he probably had to
open a shoot a few times to get to the
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bottom to get back up. No, but this is a
pretty kick ass. I encourage anybody to go to Gottlieb
Show on X right now.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Dan, are you? How are you with heights?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I'm fine with heights. I'm just not good on motion sickness.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, I mean would it Would you ever jump out
of a plane?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I thought that the rush of it, like the head
over heels stuff, I don't think that that would I'd
be pretty good at.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
That, Sam, What about you? Where are you with heights
and jumping off of things and bungee jumping in parachuting
and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I would definitely try out skydiving.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I'm okay with heights as long as there's like a
barrier around me. One time, I had to do this
thing at summer camp where like I climbed this really
tall pole and had to jump off of it. I
was like hooked onto a wire and I had to
hit a bell. I had to like jump off it
and like hit a bell that was like maybe eight
feet away, And I was just petrified.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, I mean I think you guys, remember Jason, I
think you were with us last summer I went to
I took my son to Montana. And when we went
to Montana, we did ah not a ropes course. What's
it called? Where you where you sipline zipline right? And
I never get We got up there in the very first,
very first one, and you know, my son has zero
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fear of heights or anything. He's up there walking back
and forth and he's laughing at me, and then all
of a sudden there's a crackle of thunder and lightning,
which was a little bit too close. We had to
get down, and like his eyes got super big. So
what I determined was he wasn't scared of heights, but
he had a healthy respect for thunderstorms. But it actually,
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like you know, I was like, hey, if a little
kid can do it, I can do it. Push me
kind of over the threshold, and I do that even
I like roller coasters. But a lot of my you know,
we go to six Flags once a year, and a
lot of a lot of my desire or my ability
to get over that fear of heights and sometimes of
that motion is the fact that I'm with my son
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and you know, wanting to appear to be a wool
sweeter son, but also like he helps me kind of
get over that threshold. But this one, there's so many
levels to it to which I would never do. I
just can't imagine, you know, just even bailing out before,
like if you're if you're if you don't get the
angle of that jump, Like do you bail out early
and sink in the water? Do you go off the
edge and pull the pair? Shoot?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Stuff that could go wrong?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But by so many things that could go wrong.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
So it wasn't he wasn't being pulled by the drone
was following this guy right now?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
He's being pulled by the drone?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But also like what is he's being recorded by? I
would think a very fast drone?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Right correct?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
How are they following him through all this?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's crazy with a drone.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's two drones. One drone is pulling him and one
drone is following him.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
We have drones that are big and fast and strong
enough to pull humans.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, wow, I mean they have drones that can kill humans.
Two you do you do realize that right?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Those are war with this new technology, it kind of
erases this. But I always thought the crazy thing was
like when Bear Grills would go on his adventures, that
there would be a cameraman with him.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, so the cameraan just give him a sandwich. That
wasn't Wasn't that The whole thing with the Bear Grills
is like, yeah, it's really not that dire. He's got
camera people with it.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Well, now the other point was how about doing everything
he does and carrying a camera like that's actually, you know,
more difficult than actually what Bear Girls is doing.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Did you guys ever see the documentary Free Saul.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well, so it's about this guy that goes up Al
Capitan without any kind of equipment. Okay, so he just
goes up bare feet. And that's the crazy thing. The
whole documentary, you're thinking, who's the poor guy that has
to be in the camera getting the footage? You don't
even think about it. You just think it's just like
reality TV or something. But there's somebody who has to
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execute the camera.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Anyway, go to the Twitter. I just I'm still I
keep staring at over over again and go like, how
do you have the balls to do that? I just
I don't have that. That's not who I am I
want to play for you something from earlier today. Danny
Hurley's done kind of the media rounds. He was cool.
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He sent me a text We're into a pod upcoming.
But Danny was on. He did Lebotard show. I know
he did I think Matt Norlander who does college basketball
pod for CBS, and he did Colin Cowherd show and
he talked about, you know, the Laker job. And I
first of all, kudos to Danny. You know, so many
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people when they go through those sort of processes, they
don't want to talk about it. It's like, what's the
I don't know, what's the downside of talking about I
don't know. I was explaining to my son actually yesterday
or the day before, what the greatest disinfectant in the
world is, Sam, Do you know what the greatest disinfect
in the world does? Nope?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Oh, okay, Dah Buyer, I don't know, all.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Right, Jason Stewart, nothing for you. Sunlight. Sunlight the greatest
disinfecting the world. And uh, it's a it's both a
metaphor and a real thing too. Write that sunlights the
world's greatest disinfectant, and it's an expression used. But I
believe by a Supreme Court justice at at one point
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in time, which has kind of been quoted a phrase,
and that's what Danny did, was like Danny's like, you know,
like why do I have to lie about things? I
can just kind of tell the truth. And there's a
lot of takeaways from it, but the number one thing
is that there's always a number, right, and it's it
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goes back to the what was the movie about Las Vegas?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Indecent proposal? Do you remember you guys remember to do
some proposal?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Robert Redford Woody Harrelson to me Moore?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
M so de me Moore and Woody Harrelson go to
Las Vegas and if I remember correctly, like Woody Harrelson
is a terrible gambler, correct and uh kind of down
on the lock, need the money, and they're in a
casino and Robert Redford makes eyes at Demi Moore and
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at some point in time the movie and I probably
have to refresh on watch the movie. But when I
saw this story, he offered and again as at the time,
what a million dollars to sleep with? To me more
to Woody Harrelson, right, And it's one of those where
don't ever, ever ever take your wife or girlfriend to
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this movie or watch it or throw it. Don't ever
do it because it always begs the question like what
would you do? Baby? Baby? There's not a dollar amount
in the world, but there's always a number, right. Guys
do this all the time with different sorts of things.
And to some things maybe there's not a number, but
to many things there is a number. There is a number.
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And I think especially to this particular deal, where do
I think Danny knew he wanted a Laker job, like
you felt like if you listened to him, he tucked
himself into it, like, yeah, it's the Lakers, but he's
leaving behind a really good situation, a really good contract.
But we told you this yesterday. Go back and look
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at all the tweets, right Woe's tweet and the tweets
where the the expectations were, the the offer would be
in the one hundred million dollar range. And then when
he turned it down, he turned down six years, seventy
million dollars. What that said to me was that Hurley's
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people said, if you want to get this done, one
hundred million dollars is the number. Hit that number. There's
your coach, don't hit that number. And I don't know.
Here's Danny Hurley when asked if there was a number to.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Leave a place at any moment in your life.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
I think that to say that it's not a motivating
factor the finances to leave a place is definitely a
thing to stay at a place. I don't think it's
ever going to be a thing like to stay somewhere
like Yukon. If there wasn't, it would never have been.
I think a financial thing. Like Again, this wasn't like
some like pressure tactic to make me the highest paid
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college coach like that, that was already done.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
But to leave a place, to leave a place.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
That you feel the way we do, and the family
connection with my wife, my son's, my mother in law,
my brother, my father, you know who, Like I know
how much it means to my dad to go to
the Big East Tournament to leave all that behind.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
There probably is a number. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's not many dollars, Yes you do, that's the only
part to where eh And then a hundred million dollars
was it a guarantee that you do it? It's a lot.
That's a lot of money. You know, because then you
look and you're like, I don't know, Like what's hundred
million dollars? But there's the hundred million dollars. There's always
a number. And I think that's actually a fair way
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to look at things, Like he's a human being. It's
the liquors. It's a great job. Why do you take it?
They didn't hit the number. And when people have that
with their house, you have that with your car. You know,
do you want to move? Zillo has that right to
make me move? You can put on Zillo what it
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costs to make you move. I am not selling. This
house is my forever home. You want to give me
how much? And there's a comedian I don't remember his name.
I gotta look up, I gotta google it. Or he
did this thing on Sean Connery being the Dragon and
dragon Heart. You know, can you imagine the pitch of
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when they asked Sean Connery about being the dragon? This is,
sir Shorton Cornery. You want me to pray a dragon
or the voice of a dragon. I'm knighted. I'm how
much you know? And sure not? He played the voice
of a dragon. Everybody's got a number, and even Dan Hurley.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I think of that in commercials lately, of who was
willing to lend their song to the commercial. And now
there was even a there was even a commercial where
I can't remember the company, and I didn't want to
throw them under the bus, but there were three like
popular musicians that you would be like, Wow, these musicians
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really felt like they were anti establishment, and now they're not.
Only is it the music that's appearing in the commercial,
like they are actually appearing in the commercial sure, which
I was pretty that was pretty surprised about, right.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I mean, it's just it's so different than than Ben
Afflack and who's in the Duncan commercial? Tom Brady and
who else is Matt Damon? Right, Like they're really going
to get dressed up in there. So everybody's got a number.
I will not do that? Wait how much? Yeah, I'll
do whatever. Right, I'll do whatever. I think that's reasonable.
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Jay Stude, Do you have a number that would make
you move from from from Santa Clarita?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Of course no, No, I'm easily old. I work on radio,
so I any kind of money, this is.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's not choice numero uno?
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
This is that's where your girlfriend's from?
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
She from there.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, she's from there originally.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Okay, so does she have a number?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, she does too. Yeah, we've talked about this.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
The number for you for her is not very high though.
Let's just be honest, right you always talked about her,
her your super hot girlfriend. But if somebody said, hey,
if you have to ditch Jason, I mean know, we
even we get three figures.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Or four, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I already told her that you offered us your your
place in Newport for Freid.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah I did until yeah, until I move out. Yes, yeah,
I said you can. You absolutely could. You gotta come
visit the bank? Interesting, Well, they were going down, totally.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Cool, totally cool.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
No, No, he was hold on, I realize how close
Jason and I actually do live from each other.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I understand. Hold On, this is.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
To the point when Jason had his surgery that you
went over to his house and visited him but made
no reference to me even being in the area.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Did you have a surgical procedure where you know where you.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Had two birds with one stone, like, we aren't how
far apart are we? Fifteen minutes?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Jason?
Speaker 7 (15:26):
Would you say? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
But he makes a good point. You need to have
something awful happen to you, try to work on that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You do, you do make it, you do make a
really good point. Okay, I should have done the red
I did do the rounds. I had a there was
a birthday party and Jason's deal and I hadn't seen
Jason and I need.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
To sing it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Don't worry about it. Almost day however, I just but
I'm dumb, the worst of the worst. The how thing.
Thank you Jason for pointia. The house thing was he
was going down weren't you going to Newport or going
to Orange County? And I was like, why don't you
to stay at my house? I'm not even there, right?
(16:10):
That was the conversation, was it, Jason? Sure?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Don't mean to say sure yet. I don't blow it.
Brush it aside, be honest about it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
No, No, I think that was the conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I know it was the conversation, but boy, you're really
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and let let's just start with the We'll work backwards
in terms of the rest of the game. But what
are your thoughts on the last couple of calls on
Luca dodgek.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
What do you mean by what were my thoughts? I
thought that Lucas should have been smarter. There are certain
situations where you have to understand how important you are
to the overall success of this team. And those two
last plays, the one on the baseline with him kind
of hooking Jalen Brown and then the one out top
(17:36):
with him trying to take a charge, you have to
remove yourself in that situation. To remove yourself, it's not
even worth the risk to even put yourself out there.
And I thought they were both correct calls. I didn't
think either one of those calls was debatable. Mike for me,
I don't have any skin in the game. I could
care less who wins the NBA Championship. But the fact
of the matter is when you watch those, if not
like either one of those were poor officiated calls on Luca,
(17:59):
those are situation since Luca have to understand how important
he is and remove himself from them.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Okay, well, so hold on on. I understand, and on
some levels there's a level of agreement there right where
you're like, dude, you're taking a charge there, But what
are you supposed to do? Like what do you like?
He gets you in the post? Well, he gets you
in the post, okay, and he attacks your body okay,
And Jalen Brown's clearly the aggressor there and goes right
(18:26):
out his body, Like what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Like, listen, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be completely honest
with you, Doug. This may not be a popular answer,
but it wouldn't make time in this series that Luca's
been blown by.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I got I got I got, I got it. But
like do you I mean you literally open the gate
and let him go? Like I I disagree.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
With him both cold times? How many times in these
three games, has Luca opened the gate and let guys
go without him having four or five outs?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Uh? Too often? Too often? I mean, I look, there
are times in which Lively is behind him and that's
why he does it, right, Like Lively, Livelier, Gaffert or
safety nets or whatever, and let him do it. Whereas
that time it's series.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Not in this series, maybe in the Minnesota series, but
in this particular series, that's a huge difference because Lively
and Gafford aren't at the rim defensively, no doubt, they
have the honor for Zingis and they have to honor
Al Horford, sure, no question him being him being blown
by in this series stands out more because they're not
guarding Rudy Gobert, right, they're not arms with away from
(19:36):
him to contest Anthony Edwards at the ram. Now you're
guarding the Celtics are the only team in this league
that they're top eight guys on legitimate three point shooters
that you have to honor. So now Lively and Gafford,
their defensive impact is much less than this series because
a lot of the time that they're spending defensively is
out at that three point line, chasing a legitimate three
(19:57):
point shooter.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
No, no, no, listen, you and I have, of course completely
agree on that, right. That's the difference in the matchups
that have been created by the personnel that the Celtics have.
My point is more like, again, some of that stuff
is and there are times which Lively is there, right
and they kick it out to the corner and then
they kind of rotate around. But I just I don't
understand what like when you're he got one on one
(20:18):
in transition, like the sixth foul, and you know you're
sitting there in some sort of stance, like you just
let him go. He went to his body, He went
right to his body. Should he remain on his feet? Yeah,
probably remained on your feet or whatever, But like, what
are you supposed to do there?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
No, we both know this. There are ways to play
through that. As much contact is allowed in the NBA
post All Star break, there are ways to play yourself
through that play where you can literally take a stand.
You can literally take a stand, take a bump without falling,
and the officials allow you to play on. I already
I got it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
But look, I'm just tell him, I'm gonna like you.
That's should be a no call in an NBA Finals
fourth quarter game when a guy drives in your body
you fall. No call.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
No, it's not a no call because Lucas tried to
draw a charge. He literally tried to draw a charge.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I got it. But again, you just do that, just
get you know, it's like that. You know, officials do that.
Get up. I can get up. I'm not giving you
that call, right, what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
And I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you.
We both know, and I think sometimes this is very
easy to forget that officials are human, right, use you're
always barking at the officials. If you're constantly barking at
the officials at all times, do you know what that means?
When there is a fifty to fifty call, you're not
going to receive the benefit of it.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Okay, you play, You played for it. Now, the era
of Spurs you played for, they weren't that bad, right,
you played for that was more goal. But when the
Spurs were the dominant team and Duncan was a little
bit older, no one could play more than Duncan like
Jim Duggan is never But this is different.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Come on, man, what we're seeing right now with all
duver spake, all doer spake, And it's amazing to me
how people as opposed to calling this what it is
are deflecting it to something or someone else. I have
talked about this with Luca all year long, all year Luke,
he is a fantastic talent, easily top five in the league,
(22:28):
easily top five in the league. But what takes you
away from that talent is he complains almost every single
time down the floor. If he scores, he complains. If
he doesn't score, he complains. If he gets found, he complained.
If he doesn't get found, he complains. That wears officials down.
It wears him down. Now, I have played with guys
(22:50):
that do complain. I've never played with a guy that
complains like that, though I have. It not even close.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
We're gonna next time we're together, we're gonna pull a
tape where you watch prime Duncan and you're Duncan was
in all time like all time great player. But man,
did he complain.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
All lot man?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And also point this out hold on. I also point out,
if you watched last night, those first couple of fouls
when he got called for foul, he stuck his hand up,
and so yeah, that's mean.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I agree, Yeah, but that's okay. But but here's the thing.
It's not those that's not the problem. But I end
up saying, I found it's not the problem. It's all
the other times when you shoot and you flail and
then you stay on the ground. And here's the thing,
it's not even about me. It's not even about me.
Let's look at the bigger picture here. The bigger picture
(23:47):
here does is when you flail and you're on the
ground and you're talking to the officials, you are putting
your defense now in jeopardy now five on four Gordon
the other way, which eventually ends up in a wide
open three point shot for a excellent three point shooting
basketball team. So it's not just about me and how
much the constant complaining and bickering gets to me. It's
(24:08):
the fact that he is putting his team at a
disadvantage every time he does it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Almost Antenna Dan is our guest here in the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's not let's
not take away from the Celtics, right right, I mean,
let's let let's not take away from from the Celtics.
There are so many parts of the Celtics team that
I like. Obviously, I think people are starting to understand
(24:34):
Drew Holiday's value, But do people in the league understand
up until now how special that guy is.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I think so. I do think so. I am not
gonna lie to you, I think so. But I think
it's the fact that this league now honors and appreciates
offense more than the death defense. That's why J'm Milwaukee.
You try it way through how to day for Dame
Luller's They value Dame Luller's offense more than they did
Drew Holliday's professionalism, versatility, and defense. And that's that's today's NBA.
(25:09):
I get it, that's today's NBA. But the thing about Drew,
what we're realizing about Drew Holliday now is no different
than what those of us that have known Drew have
always known about Drew. It doesn't He's a plug and
play player. It doesn't matter where you put him. He
is going to fit now. His role matters. His role matters,
and the difference with him with the Milwaukee the difference
(25:32):
with him now with the Boston Celtics is he's not
asked to do what he was asked to do in
New Orleans. He doesn't have to be Robins and then
sometimes Batman when Anthony Davis isn't available. He can be
a third option, he can be a fourth option, he
can be a fifth option, and you always know what
you're going to get on him from him on the
defensive side of the basketball. These are great roles for Drew.
(25:53):
You can't win championships without guys like Derek White, and
without guys like Drew Holliday, you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
And I as well Al Holdeford as well. Yeah, yeah,
Now they can't be your Drew can't be your second
best player if you want to win a championship. But
if he's your third or worth best player, he can't.
And that's that's a really hard thing for fans to understand.
I think basketball people understand. They're like, well, how come
like if you take him here, It's like, no, he's
(26:20):
if he's got to play both ends, great, if he
can add if you score you know, fourteen to seventeen
the game, great, If you got to have twenty five
from him, he does not have that. That is not
the best version of him.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
And in me being in New Orleans, me being the
Colorados for New Orleans. I hear this all the time
from Pelicans Chance like oh Man, Like, how come Drew
couldn't do that here? Well, the difference was Drew Howard.
They didn't have Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. He didn't
have Giannis, Anton Dagopo and Chris Middleton and Bobby Porter,
Bobby Porters, you know what I mean. So he had
to be the second best player in Boston. He doesn't
(26:51):
have to be Batman, Robin or Alfred. He doesn't have
to be any of them. Because when he shows up
like he did in Game two, of course twenty nine,
it's fantast because Jason Tatum can go out and get
sixteen and Damon Brown can go out and go twenty three.
But now in Game three, when Drew Holiday only scores nine,
no one's tripping on it. So the lack of responsibility offensively,
(27:14):
it's completely different. But this is the perfect role for him.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, your opinion
on JJ and the Lakers job. You've obviously know JJ,
You've covered JJ, you played against JJ. How hard in
assimilation will that be from player to analysts to coach.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
I don't think it'd be. I think the situation is
what matters more than anything else. And for me, it's
not about JJ Reddick. It's about the Los Angeles Lakers.
For me, for I don't and let me know if
I'm missing something here, Okay, but I don't understand hiring
a rookie head coach into a championship or bus situation
(28:00):
because there's nothing he can do to succeed outside of
winning an NBA championship. Adrian Grifford, he goes to Milwaukee
in a championship er bus situation. You know what he
makes it halfway through the season. Darvin Ham gets hired
in La, goes the first season, loses to the eventual
NBA champions right then next season falls to that same
(28:20):
team again and he's out. Because I just don't understand
the purpose of hiring a rookie head coach into a
championship er bus situation. But they weren't championship or bus
not like that. They were a good team. But it's
not like if they didn't win that they were going
to fire everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I don't think the Lakers don't win a championship. They're
gonna fire everybody.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Then then tell me, Okay, so here's the thing. What
are the Lakers looking for?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's a great question. I think somebody, somebody who can
coach Lebron is a big thing. I think, you know, look,
they're looking for something. Darvin was remarkably unimpressive in a
lot of different phases that people didn't.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Isn't what coach isn't though, That's the thing. Like, you
know what's funny is like when we talk about Anthony Edwards, Right,
he's twenty two years old. He's twenty two years old,
and when he has mistakes along the way, what do
we say about players?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
You tell me, I always say lots of well, right now,
he's young, so he gets away with well here you go,
there you go.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Thank's what we say about players. We give them the
grease to grow, we give them time to grow. But
with coaches, we don't offer them that same grace. Like
I can remember Greg Popovich. I can remember Greg Popovich
playing for Pop and him almost being fired, right, but
then them sticking with Pops for all these years, and
if he would have been fired, it would have changed,
of course, the NBA history. What I'm saying here is
(29:51):
this does with coaches. I don't know why we expect
young head coaches to have it all figured out, like, oh, well,
Darvin Ham was unimpressive in a lot of areas. There
are a lot of young rookie players, throw a lot
of second year players. But we give players grace in
room to grow, but for some reason, we don't give
coaches that same grace.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I'm going to disagree. I agree with the statement in
this specific instance. I'm going to disagree only that the
same reason Frank got fired in Phoenix is the same
reason that Darvin got fired in LA And it's the
it's a bad fit for the locker room, right for Frank.
Frank is Frank is like an over prepare a basketball nerd,
(30:35):
and he didn't have the relatability. He felt like he
was stand office in coaching Devin Booker. Right. Plus they
had you know, Kevin Young, who is like Devin Booker
loved and no one else liked the offense like it
was a weird mix. Right, But it was more that
Frank's style fit with Lebron. Frank loves the film room,
(30:56):
loves the prep, loves to know everything everybody does, is
more of a hey, let's just go out and play
hard guy, and Lebron, especially Lebron especially likes that. But
Austin Reeves couldn't stand Darvin Ham like they had no
relationship at all. So I think it was a fit
for the locker room. And I don't know if JJ
is a fit for the locker room, but I think
(31:17):
that's what they're looking for, is somebody who can fit
with whatever Lebron, Anthony Davis, and Austin Reeves they think
they need needs.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
And but here's the thing you just said, Frank Vogel
is more of a Lebron guy. Yes, he wanted Stambiasima
got fired. Yeah, so think about it. So what works?
What works? Like if I over prepare, if I overpare,
prepare and I win, then I get fired. Right if
i'm if I'm a tough guy and the whole guy's accountable,
(31:46):
then I get fired. My question about the Los Angeles Lakers, Doug,
is what is their identity? Because how can you know
who to bring in when you don't know who you are?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
That's a great point. You can't, right, you can't, You
absolutely can't. I mean, like, look, there's there's there's a
million different ways to do this right, you can find
you know, Finch was that you got a lot of
G League guys, you know, for whatever reason, the Lakers
don't want a G League guy. You know, Brego was
an assistant, he's been doing it for a while, he's
(32:17):
been a head coach, right, And then of course you
got JJ who I think, I think what they think
they have in JJ is pat Riley. That's what they
think they got, you know, And I don't I don't
know if that's who JJ is, and I don't know
if that's the fit with this group, but that's what
the Lakers seem to be searching for. And look, the
(32:38):
Lakers are a mess. They don't have, you know yet,
you have you have an owner who has no idea
about the sport. You got you got Kurt Rambis and
and Rob Polinka, and that's it. They don't have the
layers of support that everybody else has in the league.
And so I think that's why they're kind of searching
for something in Rambis is probably sitting there going like, hey,
(32:59):
this guy's like pat Riley. Pat Riley coach does to
all those championships.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Let's do that Okay, So so you said, you said
a minute ago, somebody who can coach Lebron? What does
that look like?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I don't know. I don't know. I mean, Tyler's the guy.
Tyler's the guy, but Tyler's under contract, right, And they
spread up.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
The question I would ask if I'm if I'm coming
in the coach the Lakers, if Lebron wants me to
challenge a call and I don't challenge it, it's my
job on the line, Like, how can I coach like that?
How can I possibly coach like that? When I understand
this league it's all about stars. I get it. And
the word that you hear thrown about from organization the
organization is accountability. How do I do this? How do
(33:45):
I do this? How do I hold guys accountable while
implementing my culture right, being successful and still keeping the
star players within grasps of them not wanting to get
rid of me? How do I do this?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I don't know. It's a great question. It's one of
those jobs that you gotta take, but you know you're
ultimately gonna get fired.
Speaker 9 (34:06):
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Speaker 1 (34:17):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio come to you from
the tyrack dot com studios. Let's get to the press,
the press. What do you got there?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Damn fire Doug News just In And this involves a
former college basketball players headed to the NBA Draft. Former
Illinois hoopstar and draft prospect Terrence Shannon Junr found not
guilty on all charges of rape and aggravated sexual battery
stemming I'm an alleged incident last September in Laurence, Kansas.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, a really weird story. You went out time to
get into the details of it, but I do remember,
like I just I remember when he came back and played,
and I just remember the viciousness on social media and
the idea that do you really think Bret Underwood would
(35:27):
play a player if he felt like there wasn't a
complete lack of evidence or some exonerating evidence, and when
people if you actually read the story and the accusations,
you'd be like, wow, this doesn't pass the sniff test.
So look again, I'm somebody who will continue to fight
for the rights of women and they should never be abused,
(35:49):
but we also have to be really, really careful with
convicting somebody in the court of public opinion when there
has to be evidence in court to convict them.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I will say this, and I know I'm talking to
an active Division I college basketball coach, but I do
think to the first part, and it's nothing against Brad Underwood.
It's just the nature of the business that people do
think coaches will do anything to win in that scenario
about reading you know, the documents, and I don't think
(36:21):
a lot of people did that.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
No, they didn't do any of it. I just tell you,
like I'll tell you personally. I can't speak for everybody,
but I do know Brad well enough, like, come on, man,
like we all want to win. But that's the type
of that's the type of heinous crime that if you
got any any doubts, you gotta stay with you.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
No, I totally understand. I just think that there are
people out there who do believe that. I'm not saying
that they're right or correct. You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I agree with you. That's I've said this before. If
you say you're a college basketball coach, there are people
that will put that below used car salesman. Right, sure,
oh boy? Like really anyway, I've.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Been keeping tabs on the US Open. Patrick Canleys at
five under. Rory McElroy is making a push. He's currently
three under part through twelve, as is Bryson Deshamba. Scotty
Scheffler's won over part through twelve. Tiger Woods, he is
currently plus four and nine shots back of the lead.
But there's this little nugget that came out from a
golf reporter, Sean Zach who said that the PGA Tour
(37:19):
Policy Board is expected to vote next week to give
Tiger a lifetime exemption into all signature events on the
PGA Tour. Obviously, the signature events have been a topic
of conversation because of the loaded fields, but only with
seventy players. But Tiger could get a lifetime exemption into that,
which could help him play more events throughout the.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Year as well. He should, Right, the PGA Tour does
what the US women's national team has no idea of doing.
Tiger is good for business, just like Caitlin Clark is
good for business. With that, we better do the press
I get out there in press.
Speaker 9 (37:57):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm not excusing Lucas lack of defense. But I'm not EXKILLEDO.
Not excusing those calls, which I felt like took us
away from a great finish. Check out the podcast, it's
available now. It's Doug Gatlib Show, Fox Sports Radio
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