August 22, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug questions why Jerry Jones has approached the negotiations with Micah Parsons and what might be behind all of his publicity this week. A debate is spawned between Doug and Dan Beyer as Urban Meyer clears up something about Jim Harbaugh. Doug welcomes co-host of "The Solid Verbal" college football podcast Ty Hildenbrandt onto the show to preview the season. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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and it feels a little bit like Jerry Jones is
trying to do a presidential weave. And by weave, I
don't mean your hair. I mean it's the it's the
you know, uh President Trump. How he goes, He kind
of winds on the road, but generally brings it back
into some direction. Some point at the end of it.
You know, Jerry's got so many different little things going
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the docuseries that that's playing out right now you can watch.
And then you got the Michael Parsons thing. You have
Ryan Schottenheimer as a coach, who I mean, you know,
I don't think very many people thought was gonna be
the head coach of the Cowboys, especially when you had
Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl and done a pretty
good job when he's there, seemed to be tied to
(01:35):
hip to Dak Prescott. But nonetheless he did it right.
He fired him, and uh feels like there was some
really kind of intentional moves that may turn out well,
may turn out poorly, but you have you have, you
have the story that that Jerry Jones tells everybody Micah
Parsons was the deal they agreed to that the agent
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knixed was to make him the high paid non quarterback
in the league. And yet it hasn't been signed. And
yet you know they're asking for like four first round picks.
I've told you it just he's gonna be a Cowboy.
And as much as you could say, well, he's going
on this tour to fource of I want to be
traded and using social media for it. Look no further
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than Cleveland. We've talked about this with Miles Garrett, who
wrote an pen to letter saying goodbye to Cleveland, and
yet he resigns He's a Cleveland Brown. Doesn't matter, it's
playing the game. But the Jerry game feels different. The
Jerry game feels like one big dramatic pr move Or
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is that too complex? Is that too conspiracy theory? Esque?
Jay stud that that's what you think it is, right,
you think it's all calculated.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, I'm gonna I'm gonna set the record straight, or
I need to say it's straight. Matt Moseley, the host
of the Doomsday podcast I Think He's a Fox Sports columnist,
was on with Dan Byer yesterday and Monzy Bonios Buyer
could back me up on this. Dan asked him about
the negotiation with Michaeh Parson, and Moseley said that I
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think Jerry is waiting for everybody to watch all eight
episodes of the Netflix docu series before he signs Micah Parsons.
He said it fully tongue in cheek, but it's first
of all, it's funny, and secondly, I think there is
some truth into that because he keep Jerry Jones keeps
agreeing to do an interviews this week and talk about
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the negotiation, and at the end of each interview, the
host is saying, now catch Jerry on his docu series
on Netflix, The Gambler and His Cowboys. It all seems
like a pr move to me. But Matt Mosley was
the guy with the line. I gotta give him credit.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Jay Stude, do you think that the two work hand
in hand?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I wish I had thought of it. I think
it's a thing. It's brilliant. It definitely feels like it
feels coordinated. He's agreeing to doing all the interviews. His
docu series is like the talk of the Internet right now.
It's the hot thing. So he's just feeding that monster.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know, Uh, what about you there, Dan Bayer, are
you you buying in defeeding the monster? Because the one
thing about talking about the docu series at the end
of an interview is that's the plug, right And we
have guys on all the time, and the big hope
when you have a guy on that has a plug
is he just talks about what we want to talk
about and then gets in the plug or skips the plug.
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We read the plug at the end byer. Do you
think this is, as Moseley said, you know, all part
of Jerry's plan.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I think it's it's convenient for Jerry. I don't think
that he sought out to not give Micah Parsons the
deal that Parsons won it just to hype the Netflix thing,
the Netflix documentary, and then drag it out over to
this point where it finally debuted this week. I don't
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think it got to that point. I think the reason
why we're hearing more from Jerry this week is obviously
because of that documentary, but also then he's talking about this,
but the whole documentary is rooted in c I may
have messed up, but in the end I was right,
and that's what That's what I think he wants us
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to believe about this Micah Parsons situation is in the end,
it gets done and everything's okay. And so I think
that's where he's trying to protect his legacy in trying
to show people that in the end, it always works
out in a good way.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
For Jerry Jones, well, I mean he's gonna get his player.
I don't know if it works out in a good
way in terms of of how much he's gonna spend,
going to spend a lot of money, but he wouldn't
spend a lot of money in it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I would say that the DAK contract did not work
out well for Jerry Jones, but I think Jerry Jones
would disagree with that. I think that whatever Jerry does,
he thinks it's a great idea. I mean, in this documentary,
his dad had to talk him out of not buying
the Chargers with the help of the mafia, Like right, right,
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Jimmy Hoffo's a part of this deal, and his dad
had to be like, yeah, you may not want to
get into you may not want to get involved in that.
But in the end, that's all right because guess why
Doug he owns the Dallas Cowboys the most valuable franchise
in sports.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
This is true and win or lose the value. That
thing's only going up, only going up.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But did I give a spoiler out too soon? Did
I give a spoiler? I mean, because it just came
out on Tuesday. I just want to clarify this.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
What episode was that? Was it episode two or three?
I think it was two because I think the rules
are in the especially in Netflix that releases the entire thing.
I think you can spoil it with Netflix. I think
you can. I mean, if you're a sports fan, you're
listening to this show, and if you're a sports fan,
you've got FOMO this week and you're watching that Cowboys documentary? Well,
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how many episodes have you done, Doug?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I haven't had any. I've been watching The Chiefs Kingdom one?
What else else? Watching? There's something else I've been watching.
That's that's a docuseries. Uh, it was a non sports
one that I fell asleep to the other night. I
haven't watched Cowboys one. And part of the reason I've
watched Cowboys one is everybody says Cowboys one it's not
very good.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's like infomercial, so you have no curiosity to find
out for yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I just again, I struggle with multiple sports documentaries, this
docuseries same time.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
This sounds familiar. I think you said that you didn't
watch Aby Gilmore two because everyone said it sucked.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Accurate accurate. I was curious was it good.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I liked it more than I think others did. Happy
Gilmour too. But I'm in the golf, and so there
were some golf things that I thought were funny and
stuff that would resonate with me.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I liked the golf. I've watched some of the golf
on Netflix. I've watched some of the tennis on Netflix.
You know. And again part of my mistake there, Jase
Douo is you know, went the Red Sox one. I
felt like it was just okay. But the golf and
the tennis one and the f one one are great.
But again that's when I start crossing all my docutionaries,
(08:37):
like wow. So that's where I got to The Chiefs
Kingdom one. I'm like, all right, I watched this thing
all the way through, Like I just watched the Super
Bowl one, and I think I'm good.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And it's Gilmore has a Rotten Tomatoes of sixty one.
So that's like sixty percent of the consumers of that
movie liked it. Now, you could easily go in to
the rabbit hole of how dumb is this country? How
dumb are people? Yes, and that would explain it. But man,
I thought Foma would catch up to you on that one.
(09:10):
That everyone was talking.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
About it really by everyone, you mean you.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, our industry in the week after that movie came out.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Oh the No, I didn't cause I had friends that
watched it. They were like it was bad and there
was there's no bitterness over not getting a cameo. But
I literally feel like I'm the only guy I had
to get a cameo in that one. I do so,
but no, I just had no desire for it. I
mean tell me that, you know thought I did think
that Sandler's movie was that last summer Summer before when
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he was the Scout. Like I thought that one was good,
but that was a real movie. Like there's there's no
part of me that goes like, you know, what they
should do, it should make happy Gilmour two dog, I'll
take it through where that part does work. That part
does work.
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and they had this exchange about Jim Harbaugh and the
Michigan cheating scandal.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
There was a quote I saw that you said that,
you know, maybe Harbor should be suspended in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
So clarify that.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Where are you right now on Michigan Harborn?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
What transpired?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, friends sent me that quote. I never said that.
That was a typical media guy saying that. No. I
on the podcast, we talked about the penalty and I
brought up I said, do you realize that when Jim
Tressel was fired from Ohio State, he was suspended I
want to say six games. He went on to be
suspended by the Indianapolis Colts. Now, did I say that Jim, No,
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of course not. I didn't say that, and I actually
even said that, you know, I don't think it will.
But I threw that out there because that's a fact.
And it was made clear throughout the that the NFL
wanted to at least respect the decisions made by the NCAA.
So no, I neft answer your question. I never said that,
But that's typical someone's going to put something in the
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headline here Callen and I are talking about that was
never said.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I actually you know when I I tried to scour
the internet for it, Jase, dude, did you see a
quote where he actually said that? Because I did not,
I saw the headline. I did not see the actual quote.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, Buyer and Montsi talked about and you were talking
about he mentioned something about an elephant in the room.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yes, which is the point that he was saying. Was
because I think that there's this the background on this
and why Doug, you and I have gone back and
forth and on the whole Michigan thing is there are
Ohio State fans like myself that feel that the tattoo
Gate scandal that Costume Trussell his job is not as
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far in the rear view mirror as it is for
every other fan base. And so I think that still
sticks out that there was severe punishments that were handed down,
and I think that Urban on the Triple Option podcast
was kind of speaking as the former head coach at
Ohio State, and then when he came on with Colin
(12:48):
I think he was being Urban Meyer, former head coach,
maybe Fox Big Noon kickoff analyst. Yes, and so that's
where I think that. And I think Urban did hit
because he did use the phrase is just mentioned. The
elephant in the room is the Jim Tressel suspension.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, this is the elephant in the room comment from
that podcast.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
There's an elephant in the room here, boys, though, that
no one's talking about. When Jim Trussell was fired at
Ohio State and he was given a suspension, Roger Goodell,
commissioner of the National Football League, came out and said
that we're going to honor that violate. They're going to
honor that suspension. And you remember he went to Indianapolis
Colts to work in the replay room or something. The
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Colts because the respect they had for the NCAA and
the suspension. Do you realize suspended Jim Trussel so he
was unable to perform his duties for the first six
games of the year for the Indianapolis Colts. I think
we all know the answer. Yeah, any chance that Roger
Goodell and the NFL, of course not.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, there's a bunch of things to it. Okay, you
want the elephant in the room. You Ohio State people
are annoying, You're obnoxious. It just stated Ohio State was
cheating their brains out. Okay, they were using the gold
pants thing. And then there was others. You know what
was the quarterback who he played some tight end the NFL.
(14:15):
I'm and forgetting Dan uh the kid from West Virginia.
He was a basketball player too, and you know he
got a brand new car. Like, what are we doing?
We're really gonna do this. Jim Trustle was directly Yes,
Jim trust was directly involved in buying players. Okay, that's
what it was, and in covering stuff up. This is
Jim Harbaugh and a and stealing signs. It's not the
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same thing. Stop it. It's so disingenuous. And what this
is is this is how obnoxious to the rest of
US college football rivalries are. It just is It's like, dude, really,
we're gonna go back to Jim Trestle, that's what we're
gonna do. You just won a national championship. You know,
like what what what do we what are we actually
(15:00):
doing here? And again it's like Iran Mago, like Jim
Trussell was, don't know he wasn't stop it. Do you
want to go back and you want to relitigate, feel free,
you'll find out Ohio State was cheating their brains out.
My dad was Ohio State alum. Everybody knew it. Okay,
what comes out as a fraction of what really happened,
but it was. It was revealed in there. There was
a lot more going on, and Trussell was directly involved,
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whereas this is Jim Harbaugh and it's a football thing.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
He was completely innocent. He was cleared of all this. Yeah,
you didn't have a role in this at all, Doug.
He didn't try to stop the investigation. He totally cooperated
and was no, you're but.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Again, you want to really compare, you want to compare
sins for stealing signs and buying players. Okay, fine, do that,
do that, but nobody, nobody actually real life.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Because because there's no value in it, because they listen,
here's what here's why they learned the information that here's hedn't.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Beat Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So here's what the whole thing, Doug, this is, this
is the then you do the what about is?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
This is what about it? It's always cheating.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
They were always cheating you're just like all of the
other ones. Just move on from this. You know why,
because Jim Harbaugh gives us a good funny sound bite
every now and then. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
No, here's the thing. Stealing signs when it was a
year before the actual season. There's been like, let's suspend,
then let's suspend again, then let's suspend again. Oh my gosh, Hey,
you know what. And here's the other thing again, here's
here's Urban Meyer being disingenuous. Yes, Tressell ended up losing
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his job. There's other reasons he lost his job other
than just paying players in the golden pants that they
sold off. Hey, that's that's only a fraction of it.
But Harbaugh has he'd already been punished. This is like
double triple quadruple.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Jeopardy, Like, what how is he already punished?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He was suspended, but he was three.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Games from the Big ten.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah that was all that That Is that a punishment? Yes? Yes?
Is that a punishment? Yeah? It's yes. Okay, three there
you go, there, there you go. And he's got a
show cause.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Right, which he was never going to come back to
college football again. That's what that's what Urban is getting
at is. So Jim Harborough's gonna leave basically Scott free
in all of this without any punishment because he's not
going to be coaching in college football. In twenty thirty eight,
Jim Tressel lost his job and never any then he was.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Then he was like a would then he get president
of Youngstown.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
No, he's yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Now he's fine. He's the lieutenant governor of Ohio and
so he's come out fine in all of this.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Of course, of course, I just like we.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I I'm sitting here.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I feel like we're really relitigating. And then you go like, well,
that's what about is No, this is all Ohio State's doing. Hey,
what about here's why Michigan didn't cooperate. Okay, I'll just
use my own monitor ocal mistake. Mike Boyden gets the
job and like a couple months in, one of his
assistant coaches got got caught skimming off the top on
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on trying to recruit a player. They cooperated and still
got extra punishment. And so everyone has learned there's no
value in cooperating with an NCAA investigation. They don't take
it easy on you. If you do, they just don't.
If anything you can use Ohio State as that. I'm
sure Ohio State probably cooperated, still got hammered by it.
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(19:08):
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Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Thank Doug. Good to be here.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
This is such an interesting year, right, Like we've had
nil before, we've had payers players essentially get paid, but
now this is like a full true cycle where uh,
dudes are getting paid. You have the revshare, you still
have massive transfer transfer numbers. What what to you is
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the biggest storyline of the season heading in?
Speaker 7 (19:51):
The biggest storyline for me heading in is there is
a lot new kind of the dovetail. With what you
were just saying, there's a lot new. There's so programs
that have like over eighty new players this year. How
are we supposed to predict any of this when so
much is new And it's not just like the big
number at the very top of the conversation, it's there's
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also a bunch of new quarterbacks across college football. So
you've got a really interesting mix of guys who have
been there before, veteran names that we know and love
and are getting paid like in some cases millions of dollars.
But in other cases you've got an interesting transfer or
in the case of Notre Dame, a recruit who has
been there a while just sort of waiting for his
opportunity to step into the limelight. So I think quarterback
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plays where I go first. If I'm looking at the
twenty twenty five season, I think it's going to be
just a really interesting mix of guys that might hit,
might not hit, and like, just that variability across the
board is going to make things pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Okay, So let's let's get to quarterbacks, because all the
big ones and some of the smaller ones has some
interesting ones. Let's start with Texas Manning on the back
of the jersey, his name is Art. There's a ton
of hype only he's started three games. What are your
expectations for arch Banning.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
My expectations for arch Manning is that, as we saw
a little bit last season, he's definitely more mobile than
his predecessor, Quinnewers, and I think they're going to use that,
especially in some of the situations that Texas found itself
in a lot last season down in the red zone
when they're trying to get the hard yards. They couldn't
put Quinn on the move because that just really wasn't
Quinn's game. But arch can do that. So I think
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we're going to see a lot more of that this season,
and that makes Texas better and more dynamic on offense.
Where I'm a little bit concerned is they're rebuilding their
entire offensive line. So what kind of protection is arch
Manning going to get in a very very difficult sec
where everybody's defensive line is loaded. What is that ground
game going to look like around arch Manning to give
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him a little bit more support so it's not all
on his shoulder. And furthermore, bigger picture with respect to Texas,
it's not the easiest schedule in the end, They've got
some tough road spots on that schedule. What is arch
Manning going to do when he's on the road in
a big spot. A lot remains to be seen. He's
got the pedigree. I think we expect that there's going
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to be a base level of pretty good competency there.
But I am stopping short of penciling him in as
like a Heisman front runner as many have, just because
there's a lot new on that Texas side that we
at least need to mention if we're being honest about
the Longhorns this year.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, Alabama, they have Ty Simpson program. Guy strikes me
as there's a little bit of rock party there where
Alabama didn't go out and lay out a ton of
money to get a Shore fire starter. Here's a guy
who's been in the program and you know they have
all the talent around him. How do you think that
plays out?
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I really like Alabama. I really like Ty Simpson, and
I really like the setup that he steps into now
with Klein de Borr being reunited with his longtime deputy,
former offensive coordinator who is now back, they've gotten the
band back together, Ryan Grubb. So that combo at the
top with the coaching staff is a pretty good start.
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Ty Simpson I think fits the Alabama the Kaylin de
Boer system better than Jalen Milroe last season. He's clearly
not as mobile. You can't say anybody's as mobile as
Jalen Milroe, but he won't be as mistake prone as
I think Milroe was. He's definitely mobile enough where he
can move around the pocket. He's had some big runs
over the course of his career, just in very limited action,
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and I think he gives them a little bit more
consistency with intermediate thros working the ball down the field vertically.
So in terms of good situations, this is a pretty
good one for ty Simpson to step into. And if
it doesn't work for Ty Simpson, they've got Austin Mack,
who they like came with Kayln de Boor from Washington.
They've also got Keilon Russell, who comes in one of
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the highest rated quarterbacks this most recent recruiting cycle. So
it's a smart coaching staff. It's a really good supporting
cast that brings back more this season than we're used
to from any Alabama team I can remember in recent memory.
And so if it doesn't work with Simpson, it's gonna
work with one of the other guys. I think Alabama
is going to be just fine.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Okay, let's go to Oklahoma. You know, Oklahoma had had
the savior last year, an artold, and he lasted three games.
Now you're bringing a proven commodity and his offensive coordinator
from Washington State. But it's a as we see with
people trolling his Venmo account, it's a completely different world
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when you get to the SEC. How does how does
how does that work?
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Yeah? I heard your spot talking about JOm Matier and
the Venmo and it's it's a wild world, man, It's
just you step into the SEC and uh, you know,
the gloves come up. I listen. I like Jommettir, I
like Ben Arbuckle. I like the fact that friend Vannables
is bringing them down as a tandem. I think that's
a good situation. My only hesitation. I guess there's two
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of them on the Materier front. The first is played
basically a Mountain West schedule last season, Like, let's just
call it what it is. It was a Mountain West
schedule last year for Washington State. He was really good.
But what does it look like now? Does that game
translate to the SEC with just a murderer's row of
a schedule for Oklahoma this year. I don't know the
answer to that. I don't know if anybody does. We're
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just sort of assuming that he's going to click and
that he's better than what they had, But I don't
know if anybody can necessarily say that for certain. The
second thing that I'm really curious about John Mattier is
a crazy good runner of the football. I mean, he
is electric when he's got the ball in his hands.
When he's running. As a passer, there's a lot of inconsistency.
There's a lot of inconsistency there that I think he's
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got some rough edges to his passing game. He's going
to need to shore that up again against a really,
really difficult schedule. Now again, he would have been the
leading rusher if you just look at his numbers from
a year ago, he would have been the leading rusher
on Oklahoma all last season. Oklahoma had no ground game whatsoever.
They went out, they hit the portal hard. They're trying
to make things. I think Brent Vannables understood the asignment
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to saw season. They needed to get better in a
hurry in a bunch of different places. The tier gives
them that. But I am not ready to fully commit
to the fact that this is just going to be
the second coming of Baker Mayfield that some have professed,
because you need to see him against better competition, you
need to see if he can improve as a passer.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Then you have Penn State, where everybody loves Drew Aller
but like again, and twenty four touchdowns is great, it's
it's not otherworldly, but really really good. But you have
James Franklin, who doesn't beat the top ten teams. Right,
that's the narrative, and it's it's a fair narrative because
we have enough, we have a big enough sample size.
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They play Oregon at home, they go to Ohio State,
Nebraska at home, and the potentially a Big ten championship game.
Is this the year that Penn State finally wins those
big ones?
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I think they'll win one of the big ones. So
I'm a Penn State grad and I've been hearing this
all off season, and it's a really interesting conversation when
you start layering on top of everything, this playoff pipe,
this National championship pipe, with what I think the undercurrent
has been for the last couple of seasons, which is
exactly what you mentioned. Can they win the big one?
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I think they can beat Oregon at home. That's a
white out game at night. That's pretty advantageous. Oregon's got
a lot new including a quarterback. More to the point
than I made earlier, that's a setup for them that
I like on the road against Ohio State. By that
point in the year, it's later on, it's going to
be a much more veteran Ohio State team than it
is right now. I'm not sure they win that game, Doug.
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They've had a real hard time against Ohio State. They've
been close, but again, getting over that hump I think
is job won for Penn State this season. So I
think they beat Oregon. I think they lose to Ohio State.
I think there's a good opportunity for them to get
revenge over Ohio State in a potential Big Ten championship game.
But we got to go one step at a time
here in the Penn State universe. Got to get one
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of these monkeys off their back. Beat Oregon, beat Ohio State,
beat one of those two teams to at least give
us a proof of concept that you can win a
game of that magnitude before we start talking up big
ten titles, before we start talking up national championships. I
like Drew Aller. They've got so much back. It's hard
not to like this team. Full disclosure, I've got him
as my national champ. Maybe there's a little bit of
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homersm there because I graduated from there, but alas, it's
hard to look at this team and feel differently. There's
a lot back. If ever there were a year for Franklin,
this would be it. So we'll see. I don't know.
All I can say is we'll see, and I'll give
you a shrug.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Speak speaking of a lot back at Clemson played the
playoff last year, open up with LSU, and they've been
the anti portal. They've been the team retention right that,
that's been their narrative. Does it work this year?
Speaker 7 (28:45):
I think so. I mean third year for cade club
Nick in the offense. We saw him take big strides
last season. This is a team I believe that leads
the nation in returning production. They've got a schedule that
features some interesting bookends, right with the LSU game that
you mentioned, and they close out against South Carolina. But
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you'd be hard pressed to find many teams in the
schedule that you don't look at, at least at first
blush and say, oh, yeah, that team's better than Clemson.
That's just not the case. Clemson's going to be better than
most of the teams that they play this year. They've
got so much back. I've got him as my preseason
number one. I've got him playing for the national championship.
I think really highly of this team. I think the
counterpoint with Clemson is, well, look at what they did
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last year. There was a lot of inconsistency. There's still
a lot that they need to clean up. But to
the point, Dablo's got guys in the system now that
have been there a while. We started to see his
wide receiver corp grow up a little bit last season.
They had been lacking that element of their game. They
brought in a big time running back via the high
school ranks. I think all of the ingredients are there
(29:51):
for Clemson, provided they can get a little bit more
consistent and clean up some of what woe done last year.
I feel pretty good about the Tigers and their chances.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Twenty twenty five, Ty Hilderbridge our guest You's co host
of Solid Verbal by the way when you guys came
up with solid verbal was that when solid verbal commitments
actually meant something, it.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Was Yeah, we've got a bunch of emails about that, like, hey,
you guys gonna like change the name now, I mean
we're we've been doing this since so eight, we're many
years into it, probably too many at this point to
change the name. But yeah, it doesn't mean as much
as it used to, does it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
No, No, honestly, now you can sign the national letter
in tenant doesn't seem to be binding. It's it's it's
it's crazy, it's crazy. How's Bill Belichick do your one?
In college football?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
That's like the big question, right if you're not talking
about Arch Manning, you're talking about Bill Belichick. A lot
new at UNC, including a quarterback coaching staff. I mean,
you name it, new narratives too. With some of what
we heard in the off season, it's I don't know
if UNC is fully prepared for what it got so
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far out of Bill Belichick. But look, I mean, I
think you expect base level competence on defense. I think
you expect base level competence when it comes to the
operational stuff. Sometimes the boring process driven stuff that we
know he was really good at with New England. I
think he will find ways to at least get them
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running more efficiently, get them on schedule, on time. Fundamentally,
they will be much sounder than I think they've been recently.
So as the starting point in the ACC, which is
always wide open, that feels like a pretty good place
to be beyond that, though, like I don't mean to punt,
but there again, this is another situation where there is
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so much new with this school and with this roster
that to expect it all to come together right away
is probably a bridge too far. I think they'll be
improved on defense. They haven't played defense in three years,
so he's going to make them better on that front,
and that's going to go a long way, and that's
I think going to keep them at least somewhat in
the conversation in the ACC. The other thing I'd add
(32:04):
about your one for Bill Belichick, it's a really advantageous schedule.
Like if you're in the ACC, you kind of want
that UNC schedule right now. So it's going to be
set up well for him. He's got a tough opening
act against TCU on the Monday night, it's on Labor Day,
so he'll have kind of the attention of the college
football watching world on him to see what he can do.
(32:27):
I expect they'll be better. I expect they'll be fundamentally sound,
and I think as a product of their schedule, they
will probably open some eyes. But I would stop short
of saying like eight wins, like seven eight wins, that
nothing more than that in my book.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
He's Ty Hilierbrant, the co host of Solid Verbal. It's
an iHeartMedia podcast. You should download it, rate it, review it,
put it in your queue, and listen to it. And
we'll just beg him every week to come on and
talk some college ball with us. Kicks off this weekend
Week zero. Still super weird, but whatever.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
It's back.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Ty, thanks so much for join us.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Thanks Doug have it going.
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Dan Doug free Agent, NBA guard Malik Beasley no longer
the target of the FBI's investigation into gambling on NBA games.
That was the message from his attorneys, who spoke with
ESPN earlier today. Beasley was never charged in the investigation. However,
negotiations on a potential deal for him to return to
the Pistons were pulled put on hold as he was
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involved in the early portions of this probe.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
HM, so is he innocent, yes, evidence yes, Wow.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Stunner not be charged and now teams can sign Malik Beasley,
but he was on the verge of re upping with
the Pistons. Had a good year for a team that
made the playoffs and could even go higher this year
considering where the Eastern Conferences right now.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I was looking online, tried to check the odds for
where he landed next.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Sure, yeah, he was fruit Sorry he a forty two
million dollars. Oh there you go, right over my head.
Forty two million dollar deal. I think to go back
to Detroit. Was was one of the numbers, but second
place in voting for the sixth Man of the Year
last year.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
How about an.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Other basketball news Indiana Fever guard Caitlyn Clark dealing with
a bone bruise on her left ankle suffered during a
workout earlier this month. That's according to ESPN. She's still
been out with that groin injury. She hasn't played since July.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So Sophia cunning M's out for the year and she's
out for most of the year. And by the way,
when Kaitlyn Clark returns the NFL people being played in
college football, like, yeah, it's a miss for the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
It was Sam, you want to wait.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's been a bit of a cursed year for the Fever.
They also lost Sidney Coulson and.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Uh Airy McDonald and so they've lost a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's it's been a struggle.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
But second year, Jordan's second year, you know, he missed
most of the year. The broken foot came back at
sixty three in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Did you guys see that?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
They're still in position to get to the playoffs, So
maybe they get Katelyn.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry, do you see what?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Did you see that Sports Center tweet yesterday? Oh so
bad with the Did you see this Jason the artists
rendition of like two hundred faces. I'm guessing all icons,
all the icons, all the moments, all of ESPN all
in one place, this and the launching of their direct
(36:47):
to consumer, and.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It was almost thought there was a ton of w
NBA players Nobody.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Caitlyn Clark, Sabrinni and Escu, Asia Wilson, Brianna Stewart, Angel
Reyes Page, Becker's the Juju Watkins How not to Sell
an app? The FSA Collier How not to sell an app?
The studio show for the w NBA. No, they truly
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were on there.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I know, yes, I know how not to sell an app?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Not pictured Tiger Woods, Scotti Scheffler, Steve Rory mccarroy, Andy Scotty.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Shffler had a decent year. He was running that. Now listen,
here's my here's my guess on it just a guess, okay,
that they told some artists, Hey, we want you to
watch ESPN for a month and tell us that you
see the most. And that's probably what you saw, to
(37:44):
be totally honest, right to Scotti Seffler, No, the majors
are on on, so you're watching the programming or it's like,
what's important to us? I guess, I don't know. I
I just think it's got to be an artist that
knows nothing about sports. Because the lack of Scheffler, the
lack of more NFL, the lack of more NBA, lack
of more Major League Baseball, lack of the bigger stars
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in the world is stunning. They pulled it down, by.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
The way, Yes, the tweet has been deleted. And that's
the press they.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Get out there and pressed.
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That was the press.
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I think I would take Kansas State the only one
that matters this weekend, right college football, Kansas play as
well Kansas new stadium, well, the half of the new stadium, right,
half of It's still fun.
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and it feels a little bit like Jerry Jones is
trying to do a presidential weave. And by weave, I
don't mean your hair. I mean it's the it's the
you know, uh President Trump. How he goes, He kind
of winds on the road, but generally brings it back
into some direction. Some point at the end of it.
You know, Jerry's got so many different little things going
(01:14):
the docuseries that that's playing out right now you can watch.
And then you got the Michael Parsons thing. You have
Ryan Schottenheimer as a coach, who I mean, you know,
I don't think very many people thought was gonna be
the head coach of the Cowboys, especially when you had
Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl and done a pretty
good job when he's there, seemed to be tied to
(01:35):
hip to Dak Prescott. But nonetheless he did it right.
He fired him, and uh feels like there was some
really kind of intentional moves that may turn out well,
may turn out poorly, but you have you have, you
have the story that that Jerry Jones tells everybody Micah
Parsons was the deal they agreed to that the agent
(01:57):
knixed was to make him the high paid non quarterback
in the league. And yet it hasn't been signed. And
yet you know they're asking for like four first round picks.
I've told you it just he's gonna be a Cowboy.
And as much as you could say, well, he's going
on this tour to fource of I want to be
traded and using social media for it. Look no further
(02:21):
than Cleveland. We've talked about this with Miles Garrett, who
wrote an pen to letter saying goodbye to Cleveland, and
yet he resigns He's a Cleveland Brown. Doesn't matter, it's
playing the game. But the Jerry game feels different. The
Jerry game feels like one big dramatic pr move Or
(02:47):
is that too complex? Is that too conspiracy theory? Esque?
Jay stud that that's what you think it is, right,
you think it's all calculated.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, I'm gonna I'm gonna set the record straight, or
I need to say it's straight. Matt Moseley, the host
of the Doomsday podcast I Think He's a Fox Sports columnist,
was on with Dan Byer yesterday and Monzy Bonios Buyer
could back me up on this. Dan asked him about
the negotiation with Michaeh Parson, and Moseley said that I
(03:20):
think Jerry is waiting for everybody to watch all eight
episodes of the Netflix docu series before he signs Micah Parsons.
He said it fully tongue in cheek, but it's first
of all, it's funny, and secondly, I think there is
some truth into that because he keep Jerry Jones keeps
agreeing to do an interviews this week and talk about
(03:42):
the negotiation, and at the end of each interview, the
host is saying, now catch Jerry on his docu series
on Netflix, The Gambler and His Cowboys. It all seems
like a pr move to me. But Matt Mosley was
the guy with the line. I gotta give him credit.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Jay Stude, do you think that the two work hand
in hand?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I wish I had thought of it. I think
it's a thing. It's brilliant. It definitely feels like it
feels coordinated. He's agreeing to doing all the interviews. His
docu series is like the talk of the Internet right now.
It's the hot thing. So he's just feeding that monster.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know, Uh, what about you there, Dan Bayer, are
you you buying in defeeding the monster? Because the one
thing about talking about the docu series at the end
of an interview is that's the plug, right And we
have guys on all the time, and the big hope
when you have a guy on that has a plug
is he just talks about what we want to talk
about and then gets in the plug or skips the plug.
(04:42):
We read the plug at the end byer. Do you
think this is, as Moseley said, you know, all part
of Jerry's plan.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I think it's it's convenient for Jerry. I don't think
that he sought out to not give Micah Parsons the
deal that Parsons won it just to hype the Netflix thing,
the Netflix documentary, and then drag it out over to
this point where it finally debuted this week. I don't
(05:11):
think it got to that point. I think the reason
why we're hearing more from Jerry this week is obviously
because of that documentary, but also then he's talking about this,
but the whole documentary is rooted in c I may
have messed up, but in the end I was right,
and that's what That's what I think he wants us
(05:33):
to believe about this Micah Parsons situation is in the end,
it gets done and everything's okay. And so I think
that's where he's trying to protect his legacy in trying
to show people that in the end, it always works
out in a good way.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
For Jerry Jones, well, I mean he's gonna get his player.
I don't know if it works out in a good
way in terms of of how much he's gonna spend,
going to spend a lot of money, but he wouldn't
spend a lot of money in it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I would say that the DAK contract did not work
out well for Jerry Jones, but I think Jerry Jones
would disagree with that. I think that whatever Jerry does,
he thinks it's a great idea. I mean, in this documentary,
his dad had to talk him out of not buying
the Chargers with the help of the mafia, Like right, right,
(06:25):
Jimmy Hoffo's a part of this deal, and his dad
had to be like, yeah, you may not want to
get into you may not want to get involved in that.
But in the end, that's all right because guess why
Doug he owns the Dallas Cowboys the most valuable franchise
in sports.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
This is true and win or lose the value. That
thing's only going up, only going up.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But did I give a spoiler out too soon? Did
I give a spoiler? I mean, because it just came
out on Tuesday. I just want to clarify this.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
What episode was that? Was it episode two or three?
I think it was two because I think the rules
are in the especially in Netflix that releases the entire thing.
I think you can spoil it with Netflix. I think
you can. I mean, if you're a sports fan, you're
listening to this show, and if you're a sports fan,
you've got FOMO this week and you're watching that Cowboys documentary? Well,
(07:15):
how many episodes have you done, Doug?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I haven't had any. I've been watching The Chiefs Kingdom one?
What else else? Watching? There's something else I've been watching.
That's that's a docuseries. Uh, it was a non sports
one that I fell asleep to the other night. I
haven't watched Cowboys one. And part of the reason I've
watched Cowboys one is everybody says Cowboys one it's not
very good.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's like infomercial, so you have no curiosity to find
out for yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I just again, I struggle with multiple sports documentaries, this
docuseries same time.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
This sounds familiar. I think you said that you didn't
watch Aby Gilmore two because everyone said it sucked.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Accurate accurate. I was curious was it good.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I liked it more than I think others did. Happy
Gilmour too. But I'm in the golf, and so there
were some golf things that I thought were funny and
stuff that would resonate with me.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I liked the golf. I've watched some of the golf
on Netflix. I've watched some of the tennis on Netflix.
You know. And again part of my mistake there, Jase
Douo is you know, went the Red Sox one. I
felt like it was just okay. But the golf and
the tennis one and the f one one are great.
But again that's when I start crossing all my docutionaries,
(08:37):
like wow. So that's where I got to The Chiefs
Kingdom one. I'm like, all right, I watched this thing
all the way through, Like I just watched the Super
Bowl one, and I think I'm good.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And it's Gilmore has a Rotten Tomatoes of sixty one.
So that's like sixty percent of the consumers of that
movie liked it. Now, you could easily go in to
the rabbit hole of how dumb is this country? How
dumb are people? Yes, and that would explain it. But man,
I thought Foma would catch up to you on that one.
(09:10):
That everyone was talking.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
About it really by everyone, you mean you.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, our industry in the week after that movie came out.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Oh the No, I didn't cause I had friends that
watched it. They were like it was bad and there
was there's no bitterness over not getting a cameo. But
I literally feel like I'm the only guy I had
to get a cameo in that one. I do so,
but no, I just had no desire for it. I
mean tell me that, you know thought I did think
that Sandler's movie was that last summer Summer before when
(09:44):
he was the Scout. Like I thought that one was good,
but that was a real movie. Like there's there's no
part of me that goes like, you know, what they
should do, it should make happy Gilmour two dog, I'll
take it through where that part does work. That part
does work.
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and they had this exchange about Jim Harbaugh and the
Michigan cheating scandal.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
There was a quote I saw that you said that,
you know, maybe Harbor should be suspended in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
So clarify that.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Where are you right now on Michigan Harborn?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
What transpired?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, friends sent me that quote. I never said that.
That was a typical media guy saying that. No. I
on the podcast, we talked about the penalty and I
brought up I said, do you realize that when Jim
Tressel was fired from Ohio State, he was suspended I
want to say six games. He went on to be
suspended by the Indianapolis Colts. Now, did I say that Jim, No,
(11:17):
of course not. I didn't say that, and I actually
even said that, you know, I don't think it will.
But I threw that out there because that's a fact.
And it was made clear throughout the that the NFL
wanted to at least respect the decisions made by the NCAA.
So no, I neft answer your question. I never said that,
But that's typical someone's going to put something in the
(11:39):
headline here Callen and I are talking about that was
never said.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I actually you know when I I tried to scour
the internet for it, Jase, dude, did you see a
quote where he actually said that? Because I did not,
I saw the headline. I did not see the actual quote.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, Buyer and Montsi talked about and you were talking
about he mentioned something about an elephant in the room.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yes, which is the point that he was saying. Was
because I think that there's this the background on this
and why Doug, you and I have gone back and
forth and on the whole Michigan thing is there are
Ohio State fans like myself that feel that the tattoo
Gate scandal that Costume Trussell his job is not as
(12:26):
far in the rear view mirror as it is for
every other fan base. And so I think that still
sticks out that there was severe punishments that were handed down,
and I think that Urban on the Triple Option podcast
was kind of speaking as the former head coach at
Ohio State, and then when he came on with Colin
(12:48):
I think he was being Urban Meyer, former head coach,
maybe Fox Big Noon kickoff analyst. Yes, and so that's
where I think that. And I think Urban did hit
because he did use the phrase is just mentioned. The
elephant in the room is the Jim Tressel suspension.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, this is the elephant in the room comment from
that podcast.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
There's an elephant in the room here, boys, though, that
no one's talking about. When Jim Trussell was fired at
Ohio State and he was given a suspension, Roger Goodell,
commissioner of the National Football League, came out and said
that we're going to honor that violate. They're going to
honor that suspension. And you remember he went to Indianapolis
Colts to work in the replay room or something. The
(13:32):
Colts because the respect they had for the NCAA and
the suspension. Do you realize suspended Jim Trussel so he
was unable to perform his duties for the first six
games of the year for the Indianapolis Colts. I think
we all know the answer. Yeah, any chance that Roger
Goodell and the NFL, of course not.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, there's a bunch of things to it. Okay, you
want the elephant in the room. You Ohio State people
are annoying, You're obnoxious. It just stated Ohio State was
cheating their brains out. Okay, they were using the gold
pants thing. And then there was others. You know what
was the quarterback who he played some tight end the NFL.
(14:15):
I'm and forgetting Dan uh the kid from West Virginia.
He was a basketball player too, and you know he
got a brand new car. Like, what are we doing?
We're really gonna do this. Jim Trustle was directly Yes,
Jim trust was directly involved in buying players. Okay, that's
what it was, and in covering stuff up. This is
Jim Harbaugh and a and stealing signs. It's not the
(14:39):
same thing. Stop it. It's so disingenuous. And what this
is is this is how obnoxious to the rest of
US college football rivalries are. It just is It's like, dude, really,
we're gonna go back to Jim Trestle, that's what we're
gonna do. You just won a national championship. You know,
like what what what do we what are we actually
(15:00):
doing here? And again it's like Iran Mago, like Jim
Trussell was, don't know he wasn't stop it. Do you
want to go back and you want to relitigate, feel free,
you'll find out Ohio State was cheating their brains out.
My dad was Ohio State alum. Everybody knew it. Okay,
what comes out as a fraction of what really happened,
but it was. It was revealed in there. There was
a lot more going on, and Trussell was directly involved,
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whereas this is Jim Harbaugh and it's a football thing.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
He was completely innocent. He was cleared of all this. Yeah,
you didn't have a role in this at all, Doug.
He didn't try to stop the investigation. He totally cooperated
and was no, you're but.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Again, you want to really compare, you want to compare
sins for stealing signs and buying players. Okay, fine, do that,
do that, but nobody, nobody actually real life.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Because because there's no value in it, because they listen,
here's what here's why they learned the information that here's hedn't.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Beat Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So here's what the whole thing, Doug, this is, this
is the then you do the what about is?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
This is what about it? It's always cheating.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
They were always cheating you're just like all of the
other ones. Just move on from this. You know why,
because Jim Harbaugh gives us a good funny sound bite
every now and then. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
No, here's the thing. Stealing signs when it was a
year before the actual season. There's been like, let's suspend,
then let's suspend again, then let's suspend again. Oh my gosh, Hey,
you know what. And here's the other thing again, here's
here's Urban Meyer being disingenuous. Yes, Tressell ended up losing
(16:58):
his job. There's other reasons he lost his job other
than just paying players in the golden pants that they
sold off. Hey, that's that's only a fraction of it.
But Harbaugh has he'd already been punished. This is like
double triple quadruple.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Jeopardy, Like, what how is he already punished?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He was suspended, but he was three.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Games from the Big ten.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah that was all that That Is that a punishment? Yes? Yes?
Is that a punishment? Yeah? It's yes. Okay, three there
you go, there, there you go. And he's got a
show cause.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Right, which he was never going to come back to
college football again. That's what that's what Urban is getting
at is. So Jim Harborough's gonna leave basically Scott free
in all of this without any punishment because he's not
going to be coaching in college football. In twenty thirty eight,
Jim Tressel lost his job and never any then he was.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Then he was like a would then he get president
of Youngstown.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
No, he's yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Now he's fine. He's the lieutenant governor of Ohio and
so he's come out fine in all of this.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Of course, of course, I just like we.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I I'm sitting here.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I feel like we're really relitigating. And then you go like, well,
that's what about is No, this is all Ohio State's doing. Hey,
what about here's why Michigan didn't cooperate. Okay, I'll just
use my own monitor ocal mistake. Mike Boyden gets the
job and like a couple months in, one of his
assistant coaches got got caught skimming off the top on
(18:24):
on trying to recruit a player. They cooperated and still
got extra punishment. And so everyone has learned there's no
value in cooperating with an NCAA investigation. They don't take
it easy on you. If you do, they just don't.
If anything you can use Ohio State as that. I'm
sure Ohio State probably cooperated, still got hammered by it.
(18:47):
So yeah, there's your The what about is? It's the
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, and uh
we're excited to be joined by Ty Hildebrant, who's the
co host of the Solid Verbal podcast, the largest independent
college faball podcast on the net. Uh. It continues through
the regular season, postseason, off season because you know you
(19:08):
just love college football. You live it, right. It's an
iHeartMedia podcast and you can find it on the iHeart
app wherever you get your podcast. Tie first, Welcome in,
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Thank Doug. Good to be here.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
This is such an interesting year, right, Like we've had
nil before, we've had payers players essentially get paid, but
now this is like a full true cycle where uh,
dudes are getting paid. You have the revshare, you still
have massive transfer transfer numbers. What what to you is
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the biggest storyline of the season heading in?
Speaker 7 (19:51):
The biggest storyline for me heading in is there is
a lot new kind of the dovetail. With what you
were just saying, there's a lot new. There's so programs
that have like over eighty new players this year. How
are we supposed to predict any of this when so
much is new And it's not just like the big
number at the very top of the conversation, it's there's
(20:12):
also a bunch of new quarterbacks across college football. So
you've got a really interesting mix of guys who have
been there before, veteran names that we know and love
and are getting paid like in some cases millions of dollars.
But in other cases you've got an interesting transfer or
in the case of Notre Dame, a recruit who has
been there a while just sort of waiting for his
opportunity to step into the limelight. So I think quarterback
(20:35):
plays where I go first. If I'm looking at the
twenty twenty five season, I think it's going to be
just a really interesting mix of guys that might hit,
might not hit, and like, just that variability across the
board is going to make things pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Okay, So let's let's get to quarterbacks, because all the
big ones and some of the smaller ones has some
interesting ones. Let's start with Texas Manning on the back
of the jersey, his name is Art. There's a ton
of hype only he's started three games. What are your
expectations for arch Banning.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
My expectations for arch Manning is that, as we saw
a little bit last season, he's definitely more mobile than
his predecessor, Quinnewers, and I think they're going to use that,
especially in some of the situations that Texas found itself
in a lot last season down in the red zone
when they're trying to get the hard yards. They couldn't
put Quinn on the move because that just really wasn't
Quinn's game. But arch can do that. So I think
(21:31):
we're going to see a lot more of that this season,
and that makes Texas better and more dynamic on offense.
Where I'm a little bit concerned is they're rebuilding their
entire offensive line. So what kind of protection is arch
Manning going to get in a very very difficult sec
where everybody's defensive line is loaded. What is that ground
game going to look like around arch Manning to give
(21:51):
him a little bit more support so it's not all
on his shoulder. And furthermore, bigger picture with respect to Texas,
it's not the easiest schedule in the end, They've got
some tough road spots on that schedule. What is arch
Manning going to do when he's on the road in
a big spot. A lot remains to be seen. He's
got the pedigree. I think we expect that there's going
(22:11):
to be a base level of pretty good competency there.
But I am stopping short of penciling him in as
like a Heisman front runner as many have, just because
there's a lot new on that Texas side that we
at least need to mention if we're being honest about
the Longhorns this year.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, Alabama, they have Ty Simpson program. Guy strikes me
as there's a little bit of rock party there where
Alabama didn't go out and lay out a ton of
money to get a Shore fire starter. Here's a guy
who's been in the program and you know they have
all the talent around him. How do you think that
plays out?
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I really like Alabama. I really like Ty Simpson, and
I really like the setup that he steps into now
with Klein de Borr being reunited with his longtime deputy,
former offensive coordinator who is now back, they've gotten the
band back together, Ryan Grubb. So that combo at the
top with the coaching staff is a pretty good start.
(23:08):
Ty Simpson I think fits the Alabama the Kaylin de
Boer system better than Jalen Milroe last season. He's clearly
not as mobile. You can't say anybody's as mobile as
Jalen Milroe, but he won't be as mistake prone as
I think Milroe was. He's definitely mobile enough where he
can move around the pocket. He's had some big runs
over the course of his career, just in very limited action,
(23:31):
and I think he gives them a little bit more
consistency with intermediate thros working the ball down the field vertically.
So in terms of good situations, this is a pretty
good one for ty Simpson to step into. And if
it doesn't work for Ty Simpson, they've got Austin Mack,
who they like came with Kayln de Boor from Washington.
They've also got Keilon Russell, who comes in one of
(23:52):
the highest rated quarterbacks this most recent recruiting cycle. So
it's a smart coaching staff. It's a really good supporting
cast that brings back more this season than we're used
to from any Alabama team I can remember in recent memory.
And so if it doesn't work with Simpson, it's gonna
work with one of the other guys. I think Alabama
is going to be just fine.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Okay, let's go to Oklahoma. You know, Oklahoma had had
the savior last year, an artold, and he lasted three games.
Now you're bringing a proven commodity and his offensive coordinator
from Washington State. But it's a as we see with
people trolling his Venmo account, it's a completely different world
(24:30):
when you get to the SEC. How does how does
how does that work?
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Yeah? I heard your spot talking about JOm Matier and
the Venmo and it's it's a wild world, man, It's
just you step into the SEC and uh, you know,
the gloves come up. I listen. I like Jommettir, I
like Ben Arbuckle. I like the fact that friend Vannables
is bringing them down as a tandem. I think that's
a good situation. My only hesitation. I guess there's two
(24:56):
of them on the Materier front. The first is played
basically a Mountain West schedule last season, Like, let's just
call it what it is. It was a Mountain West
schedule last year for Washington State. He was really good.
But what does it look like now? Does that game
translate to the SEC with just a murderer's row of
a schedule for Oklahoma this year. I don't know the
answer to that. I don't know if anybody does. We're
(25:18):
just sort of assuming that he's going to click and
that he's better than what they had, But I don't
know if anybody can necessarily say that for certain. The
second thing that I'm really curious about John Mattier is
a crazy good runner of the football. I mean, he
is electric when he's got the ball in his hands.
When he's running. As a passer, there's a lot of inconsistency.
There's a lot of inconsistency there that I think he's
(25:38):
got some rough edges to his passing game. He's going
to need to shore that up again against a really,
really difficult schedule. Now again, he would have been the
leading rusher if you just look at his numbers from
a year ago, he would have been the leading rusher
on Oklahoma all last season. Oklahoma had no ground game whatsoever.
They went out, they hit the portal hard. They're trying
to make things. I think Brent Vannables understood the asignment
(25:59):
to saw season. They needed to get better in a
hurry in a bunch of different places. The tier gives
them that. But I am not ready to fully commit
to the fact that this is just going to be
the second coming of Baker Mayfield that some have professed,
because you need to see him against better competition, you
need to see if he can improve as a passer.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Then you have Penn State, where everybody loves Drew Aller
but like again, and twenty four touchdowns is great, it's
it's not otherworldly, but really really good. But you have
James Franklin, who doesn't beat the top ten teams. Right,
that's the narrative, and it's it's a fair narrative because
we have enough, we have a big enough sample size.
(26:39):
They play Oregon at home, they go to Ohio State,
Nebraska at home, and the potentially a Big ten championship game.
Is this the year that Penn State finally wins those
big ones?
Speaker 7 (26:52):
I think they'll win one of the big ones. So
I'm a Penn State grad and I've been hearing this
all off season, and it's a really interesting conversation when
you start layering on top of everything, this playoff pipe,
this National championship pipe, with what I think the undercurrent
has been for the last couple of seasons, which is
exactly what you mentioned. Can they win the big one?
(27:13):
I think they can beat Oregon at home. That's a
white out game at night. That's pretty advantageous. Oregon's got
a lot new including a quarterback. More to the point
than I made earlier, that's a setup for them that
I like on the road against Ohio State. By that
point in the year, it's later on, it's going to
be a much more veteran Ohio State team than it
is right now. I'm not sure they win that game, Doug.
(27:34):
They've had a real hard time against Ohio State. They've
been close, but again, getting over that hump I think
is job won for Penn State this season. So I
think they beat Oregon. I think they lose to Ohio State.
I think there's a good opportunity for them to get
revenge over Ohio State in a potential Big Ten championship game.
But we got to go one step at a time
here in the Penn State universe. Got to get one
(27:55):
of these monkeys off their back. Beat Oregon, beat Ohio State,
beat one of those two teams to at least give
us a proof of concept that you can win a
game of that magnitude before we start talking up big
ten titles, before we start talking up national championships. I
like Drew Aller. They've got so much back. It's hard
not to like this team. Full disclosure, I've got him
as my national champ. Maybe there's a little bit of
(28:16):
homersm there because I graduated from there, but alas, it's
hard to look at this team and feel differently. There's
a lot back. If ever there were a year for Franklin,
this would be it. So we'll see. I don't know.
All I can say is we'll see, and I'll give
you a shrug.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Speak speaking of a lot back at Clemson played the
playoff last year, open up with LSU, and they've been
the anti portal. They've been the team retention right that,
that's been their narrative. Does it work this year?
Speaker 7 (28:45):
I think so. I mean third year for cade club
Nick in the offense. We saw him take big strides
last season. This is a team I believe that leads
the nation in returning production. They've got a schedule that
features some interesting bookends, right with the LSU game that
you mentioned, and they close out against South Carolina. But
(29:06):
you'd be hard pressed to find many teams in the
schedule that you don't look at, at least at first
blush and say, oh, yeah, that team's better than Clemson.
That's just not the case. Clemson's going to be better than
most of the teams that they play this year. They've
got so much back. I've got him as my preseason
number one. I've got him playing for the national championship.
I think really highly of this team. I think the
counterpoint with Clemson is, well, look at what they did
(29:29):
last year. There was a lot of inconsistency. There's still
a lot that they need to clean up. But to
the point, Dablo's got guys in the system now that
have been there a while. We started to see his
wide receiver corp grow up a little bit last season.
They had been lacking that element of their game. They
brought in a big time running back via the high
school ranks. I think all of the ingredients are there
(29:51):
for Clemson, provided they can get a little bit more
consistent and clean up some of what woe done last year.
I feel pretty good about the Tigers and their chances.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Twenty twenty five, Ty Hilderbridge our guest You's co host
of Solid Verbal by the way when you guys came
up with solid verbal was that when solid verbal commitments
actually meant something, it.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Was Yeah, we've got a bunch of emails about that, like, hey,
you guys gonna like change the name now, I mean
we're we've been doing this since so eight, we're many
years into it, probably too many at this point to
change the name. But yeah, it doesn't mean as much
as it used to, does it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
No, No, honestly, now you can sign the national letter
in tenant doesn't seem to be binding. It's it's it's
it's crazy, it's crazy. How's Bill Belichick do your one?
In college football?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
That's like the big question, right if you're not talking
about Arch Manning, you're talking about Bill Belichick. A lot
new at UNC, including a quarterback coaching staff. I mean,
you name it, new narratives too. With some of what
we heard in the off season, it's I don't know
if UNC is fully prepared for what it got so
(31:00):
far out of Bill Belichick. But look, I mean, I
think you expect base level competence on defense. I think
you expect base level competence when it comes to the
operational stuff. Sometimes the boring process driven stuff that we
know he was really good at with New England. I
think he will find ways to at least get them
(31:20):
running more efficiently, get them on schedule, on time. Fundamentally,
they will be much sounder than I think they've been recently.
So as the starting point in the ACC, which is
always wide open, that feels like a pretty good place
to be beyond that, though, like I don't mean to punt,
but there again, this is another situation where there is
(31:41):
so much new with this school and with this roster
that to expect it all to come together right away
is probably a bridge too far. I think they'll be
improved on defense. They haven't played defense in three years,
so he's going to make them better on that front,
and that's going to go a long way, and that's
I think going to keep them at least somewhat in
the conversation in the ACC. The other thing I'd add
(32:04):
about your one for Bill Belichick, it's a really advantageous schedule.
Like if you're in the ACC, you kind of want
that UNC schedule right now. So it's going to be
set up well for him. He's got a tough opening
act against TCU on the Monday night, it's on Labor Day,
so he'll have kind of the attention of the college
football watching world on him to see what he can do.
(32:27):
I expect they'll be better. I expect they'll be fundamentally sound,
and I think as a product of their schedule, they
will probably open some eyes. But I would stop short
of saying like eight wins, like seven eight wins, that
nothing more than that in my book.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
He's Ty Hilierbrant, the co host of Solid Verbal. It's
an iHeartMedia podcast. You should download it, rate it, review it,
put it in your queue, and listen to it. And
we'll just beg him every week to come on and
talk some college ball with us. Kicks off this weekend
Week zero. Still super weird, but whatever.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
It's back.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Ty, thanks so much for join us.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Thanks Doug have it going.
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Dan Doug free Agent, NBA guard Malik Beasley no longer
the target of the FBI's investigation into gambling on NBA games.
That was the message from his attorneys, who spoke with
ESPN earlier today. Beasley was never charged in the investigation. However,
negotiations on a potential deal for him to return to
the Pistons were pulled put on hold as he was
(34:43):
involved in the early portions of this probe.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
HM, so is he innocent, yes, evidence yes, Wow.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Stunner not be charged and now teams can sign Malik Beasley,
but he was on the verge of re upping with
the Pistons. Had a good year for a team that
made the playoffs and could even go higher this year
considering where the Eastern Conferences right now.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I was looking online, tried to check the odds for
where he landed next.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Sure, yeah, he was fruit Sorry he a forty two
million dollars. Oh there you go, right over my head.
Forty two million dollar deal. I think to go back
to Detroit. Was was one of the numbers, but second
place in voting for the sixth Man of the Year
last year.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
How about an.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Other basketball news Indiana Fever guard Caitlyn Clark dealing with
a bone bruise on her left ankle suffered during a
workout earlier this month. That's according to ESPN. She's still
been out with that groin injury. She hasn't played since July.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So Sophia cunning M's out for the year and she's
out for most of the year. And by the way,
when Kaitlyn Clark returns the NFL people being played in
college football, like, yeah, it's a miss for the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
It was Sam, you want to wait.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's been a bit of a cursed year for the Fever.
They also lost Sidney Coulson and.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Uh Airy McDonald and so they've lost a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's it's been a struggle.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
But second year, Jordan's second year, you know, he missed
most of the year. The broken foot came back at
sixty three in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Did you guys see that?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
They're still in position to get to the playoffs, So
maybe they get Katelyn.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry, do you see what?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Did you see that Sports Center tweet yesterday? Oh so
bad with the Did you see this Jason the artists
rendition of like two hundred faces. I'm guessing all icons,
all the icons, all the moments, all of ESPN all
in one place, this and the launching of their direct
(36:47):
to consumer, and.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It was almost thought there was a ton of w
NBA players Nobody.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Caitlyn Clark, Sabrinni and Escu, Asia Wilson, Brianna Stewart, Angel
Reyes Page, Becker's the Juju Watkins How not to Sell
an app? The FSA Collier How not to sell an app?
The studio show for the w NBA. No, they truly
(37:13):
were on there.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I know, yes, I know how not to sell an app?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Not pictured Tiger Woods, Scotti Scheffler, Steve Rory mccarroy, Andy Scotty.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Shffler had a decent year. He was running that. Now listen,
here's my here's my guess on it just a guess, okay,
that they told some artists, Hey, we want you to
watch ESPN for a month and tell us that you
see the most. And that's probably what you saw, to
(37:44):
be totally honest, right to Scotti Seffler, No, the majors
are on on, so you're watching the programming or it's like,
what's important to us? I guess, I don't know. I
I just think it's got to be an artist that
knows nothing about sports. Because the lack of Scheffler, the
lack of more NFL, the lack of more NBA, lack
of more Major League Baseball, lack of the bigger stars
(38:06):
in the world is stunning. They pulled it down, by.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
The way, Yes, the tweet has been deleted. And that's
the press they.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Get out there and pressed.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I think I would take Kansas State the only one
that matters this weekend, right college football, Kansas play as
well Kansas new stadium, well, the half of the new stadium, right,
half of It's still fun.
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