December 12, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug shares the story of his Thursday night win with his team and the fun trip home. Doug and Dan Beyer discuss the latest with the Sherrone Moore scandal. Doug welcomes FSR MLB Insider Jon Morosi onto the show to give the latest from the MLB Hot Stove. Plus, Dan takes Doug through "The Press".
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Uh got a road wind. Last night, boys beat IU
Indy the Jaguars. They play a style called the System.
They press trap the whole game. We were down three
at the half, not playing poorly. They were playing well
and big set and a half fifty two in the
second half and still a lot of meat left on
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the bone where we felt like we could have played
even better. But it doesn't matter, just one more point
than the opponent. But byer I was I was definitely
thinking of you last night because you're a Midwest guy.
Same thing with you, Sam and One continue to think
we had this. We had a seven hour bus ride
on the way home, which is a long time, and
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it's one of those things that we're in your head.
You go, okay, well to fly to Indianapolis from Green Bay, Wisconsin,
if you don't have a charter. We didn't have charters.
You you gotta go to the airport. Now, I can
make a flight that leaves thirty minutes after our show's done,
because it takes fifteen minutes to get there, and you
only have to be in your flight really fifteen twenty
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minutes before it takes off if you're not checking backs.
But when you have a group, you got to get.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
There like an hour early pre check. Dug.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, but again, you haven't been to Green Bay. A
green Bay, there's there is a pre check, but you don't.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
There's no line right right right, so you can get
through it even faster at other airports if you're your TC.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
TAN, I do clear, and now clear offers clear and
pre check, so I'll do the I'll do both, and
then I got my kids on it as well. It's
clear as awesome. But yeah, you can get them both
now and just see which one's shorter. On those big airports,
I'd just choose clear. And it's super simple anyway. So
again you factor in your mind. Okay, well, if you
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fly commercial, it's you leave at say, even if you
lived at four thirty, you got to get there at
three thirty. If you're flying with a group, right, even
if you're not checking your checking like you know, the
basketballs or we don't bring basketball's, the uniforms and all
the medical equipment whatever. So you got to get to
the three thirty. We didn't let you would have landed
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until nine thirty. And again you're going through Chicago. There's
always usually delays. Could have been ten could have been
ten thirty. Now remember you lose an hour, so it's like,
you know, roughly an hour less time to do it
on flights. If the flights, if there's not a long
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layover and everything works out right, we bust down, bust back.
Seven hours is a long bust ride.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's that was especially at night. But you a lot.
You gain an hour going back, right.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It still took seven hours. I mean, I just want
to want to point that out. We did get an
hour back. We still took seven hours, now when you
it was, it's really six hours, but six six and
a half or so six maybe six fifteen. But we
stopped at a truck stop midway, got a bunch of snacks,
took a picture, you know, it's kind of like a
little tradish whatever. But and we were listening to we
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had great conversations, listened to a bunch of I was
I had the ox playing mostly country music and and
some slow jams on the way. And it's great when
you win buyer. When's what's the longest bus ride you've
ever been on.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The longest probably about four hours.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, I mean, listen, the buses are great now, like
that one wasn't a brand new one, but it has
the new ones. They have Wi Fi. You know, you
can want and and and the fact they have screens
doesn't really matter because everybody watches on their phones now
their iPads. But you have Wi Fi, you can do whatever.
You can get up and go to the bathroom and
can walk around. But yeah, that was a long bus ride.
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That was That was That was long. That was long.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Could have been much longer if you left with an Now.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh my gosh, we lose that game. Image can imagine
seven hours you losing a game.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I appreciate uh IU Indianapolis's efforts to honor the home city,
but those were some of the worst uniforms that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
They look like every guy got run over by a car. Checker,
check your flag, but looked a little bit like skid
like skid marks. And when I say skid marks, I
don't mean the.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The skyline of Indianapolis. Tire tread marks.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, tire tread marks.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yes, that's what it looked like, skid marks whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No, skid marks are just when you break though.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, that's when you break. Yeah, but also skid marks break.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Or there's other the double on done, yeah as well
the other part to it. Here's some some stuff you
should know. My least favorite uniforms. You guys know which
our four uniforms are. At least five uniforms are our
least favorite.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The one I don't know, the ones who were last.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Night, Yeah, the green ones. We've never I've never We've
never won in the Green ones. Now, granted we didn't
win very many games last year. We haven't won very
many games overall. But my my director of bass Woaps
came and the captain. He kind of snucked those in
under the wire. Usually asked me, what do you want
to wear? And I always go like, when we're black
or we're white. If not, we'll wear the gray. And well,
I walk out, I walk out for pre game and
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I look in the locker room and all the green uniforms,
Like you snuck it in there, didn't you. So now,
of course next road game we have to wear the
green again. Have to. Now I'm stuck my least favorite ones.
They're my least favorite ones because I haven't redesigned them.
We just kept the old We redesigned the white ones
last year, the black ones this year. The green ones
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are supposed to be next year. So we're trying to
do you'll love this buyer. We're trying to do Title
Town uniforms where the green would say Title Town USA,
and the logo instead of the GB logo would be
the Green Bay logo.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
The Packers are like cool with it. Then the league,
the NFL is like no, that's no, that's Nike. Can
do no, can't do it, can't do it. I'm telling you,
the renderings of these uniforms are so sweet. You're like dude,
those would sell like hotcakes. Those are really cool. Apparently
too cool. Apparently too cool. All right, let's get the
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latest in the Sharon Moore investigation. He was a Rain
facing one felony charge, third degree home invasion, two misdemeanors stalking,
a domestic relationship, and breaking the enery. So Bayer, give
me the give me the what we what we've been
able to put together as the story from Monday.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, so there was a lot leading up to it.
Wall Street Journal had a piece about this relationship. But
what prosecutors said today was that the victim, the woman,
ended the relationship with Sharon Moore on Monday morning. She
then was harassed by More that day continuously, and then
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Monday afternoon, after dealing with More and his alleged harassment,
she went to the school to give the information or
investigators and reveal their relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And so they so they didn't know in September and
it was investigation.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yes, so they both denied it. That's what was reported.
But that's the This is the thing about this portion
of it is there's the court case that is dealing
with what happened on Wednesday. Everything else is kind of
behind that. In trying to fill in the gaps and
who knew what. But there were reports over the last
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twenty four hours that the school had done an investigation
and had asked both parties whether they were in a relationship.
Both denied it, so it didn't go anywhere. But then
on Monday, after feeling whatever feeling she felt following the breakup, decided,
all right, I'm going to I'm going to reveal what
actually did happen. It was then on Wednesday, when he
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was fired, that he went over to the alleged victim's
place and then made the threats that he's actually facing
in court. So that's what has happened this week according
to prosecutors.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, the quote that's going around, and it's a good one,
is from Nick Saban's book, You've heard the Centurion. You
can't what he says book, you can't sleep with anybody
who has less to lose than you do. And so
for him, the only one you know his when in
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his mind Hillary Clinton was like the only one who
could could uh could lose more than he would lose.
I think that was the parallel drawn. And this is
the perfect example why because the young woman ends the relationship,
it gets public she'll get some public shame and aliation,
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but her professional life isn't over her personal life. While
a mess isn't as messy as his is. I do think,
I do think what's interesting about it is everyone operates
under the assumption and we don't know. There'll be emails
that we text if there's an investigation with when these
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things go to court, they'll be disclosure and we'll find out.
But people do operate in the assumption that Michigan knew
about this all the time, sat on it, waited til
the season was over, and only after the season is
over then they executed it because they want to fire
Sharon Moore. Right, that's the diabolical We found a way
to get rid of Sharon more and here's what happened.
Sort of thing again, still could be possible, but that's
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where so many people's brain went. And this story does
contradict that on some level. It does contradict. They may
have been alerted to it, but they investigated it and
both people said that not happening. Just people just think
that's happening, but it ain't. And you do come to
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a stalemate, and if no one, if there's no one
else with firsthand information he said and she said, are
both the same. It does. The investigation does die, It
really does.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, that's the that's the point that and there were
different reports on when this happened. Some said in the summer,
some said in October. But ultimately, to your point, Doug,
if Sharon Moore wasn't cooperating and this then now alleged
victim wasn't cooperating at the time, that's kind of been
the statement is there wasn't anything that they could go
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on or had anything or had any evidence that there
was a relationship between the two.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
What is also needs clarifying is because and I've mentioned
it in reports and you may have talked about it earlier,
but in the alleged incident on Wednesday, More never threatened
the woman. But he did say my blood is on
your hands, where he did threaten to take his own life,
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So he did threaten to take his own life, but
he did not threaten the woman, you know, with her life.
If that's any clarification.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think all of those things again and yeah, I
mean I don't need to preface this, but I will
just again so people understand, none of these things are okay, right,
Stalking showing up, harassing or any sorts of threats to
yourself or to others are okay. But if it is
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the desperation of, Hey, I just lost my entire life
after we, you know, came to a conclusion we weren't
going to tell anybody to say nothing to nobody about nothing,
and then all of a sudden you go and tell
everybody something and the whole world comes crashing down. You know.
I think it ends up being a misdemeanor and sort
of going away. What it does, though, is it just
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cast a completely ugly light on torn More and makes it.
It shows you the desperation in what happened, what transpired
over those three days or ever how long those days were. Yeah,
I mean, like I do I think he's going to jail.
I don't, but I do think that this point, I mean, there's.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Been a lot said, There's been a lot to talk
about his mental health and whether or not he goes
to jail or not, or how permissible that will be
a trial or if this goes a trial. But I
think that that's like the classic, that's the classic. I
guess legal they probably talk about this in law schools. Yep,
does he did he have mental issues and did this
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this episode trigger those mental issues, or as Doug just said,
he just received news that his life was devastated and
he had this episode. Is it a one time deal.
Was he fully aware of his actions or does he
have a mental health issue that could be proven in court?
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And then you gotta obviously lit up on the guy.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, I mean again, I'm with you, Dan, I mean
with you Jason, Like, we don't know what's interesting about
the mental health issues. And yes, obviously lawyers do go
to that and feels like they go to it way
too easily, so right, what is interesting is if you've
ever been around somebody that has legitimate depression and mental
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health issues, you actually get for me, you get offended
at people who have mental breakdowns because their life is
spiraling because of their own deciding. These are two different things,
as we're both pointing out, and that's really hard. It's
hard to not feel like you're empathetic towards mental health
issues when you're saying that. But I think we all
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know that there is a there is a distinct and
unique difference.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Also, just to add on separately, the Wall Street Journal,
in their reporting said that there were two other women
who did tell university officials that more made unwanted advances
to them online. That's a report, but that was not
mentioned with the in the court case today. So when
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we're talking about did the university know, I think those
allegations are are something that are going to be under
the microscope on did people bring this up to the
university and they didn't look or was it just part
of the investigation into that relationship or what. But that
was brought up by the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well what did you know? When did you know? What
did you do about it? That's any of these investigations.
That's what it has to do with. By the way,
my boy Pat listening to the show. Thanks so much. Pat.
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spark the check or flag, but it did look like
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did somebody run them over? What is that tire marks
on them? That was weird.
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think we have semi breaking news. Let's get to Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, Doug, Let's just do the whole update from here,
because there is news just in. It's not surprising, but
it is just in Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham announcing
that the Las Vegas Ball will be his last game
as the head coach of the Utah football program. Stepping
down is Winningham, So when they play in the Las
Vegas Bowl, it will be Kyle Whittingham's the last game.
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He was a friend of the show for a while here,
probably still a friend. We just haven't been in his
touch anymore. But it also seemed like in the last
game that they had at Rice Echos that the writing
was on the wall that it was probably winning Aham's
last game that he was going to be coaching in
the home stadium.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
But that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Wait what makes you say that, Dan? It was just
a lot of when you heard his press conference in
the way that he that he spoke and uh, just
in the uh because I think they didn't they lose
their last game. It was very emotional in uh in
that conversation. So are they playing Nebraska coming up in
the Las Vegas Bowl which is on New Year's Eve
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this year.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
A couple of things about Las Vegas Bowl. The highest
population of Mormons in the city is in Salt Lake City.
Second highest population is in uh, Las Vegas, So that'll
be a celebration. Here's a guy that played at b
YU and is an absolute legend at Utah, an incredibly
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well respected football coach. And those are gigantic shoes to
fall to fill, gigantic shoes.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
To fill in a nice year too.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Tenant, they were kind of an outside looking in playoff
tension playoff team ten and two.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, and then the last game at Rice Ecles was
a win against Kansas State. But there was a crazy
game where they came back and I think that was
part of the emotions as well at that point.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Now and he was the second longest tenured coach. Now
is Kirk Farence is the dean of college football is
by a mile because it was Gundy, Whittingham and Farence
and now they're both gone or will be both of
those will be gone. Guys will be gone. So it's
ference still sitting there as going into year twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
They'd game. Yeah, they've had a succession plan. They're like
in place where Morgan Scaley, their defensive coordinator, will take over.
I assume that that is the plan. I don't know
if there'll be a passing of the torch at the
Las Vegas bull or or what it is, but it'll be.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They actually had a physical torch.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
They Hey, they got one at the stadium from the
from the Olympics back in the day.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So yeah, and there's kind of a torch in Vegas too, right,
isn't there?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Ye oh yeah, there is caldron really Cata cauldron. Yes, absolutely.
So that news just in with college football, the big
news of.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
The Dan and I are like the only two people
who know that because we've actually been to the stadium
and watched and paid attention to the game. We look
at the quirky stuff that other people don't look at.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And I've been I've been to a Utes game and
it's been a little while. It's been about fifteen years
since I was there. About one of the neat things
was checking out all the Winter Olympics stuff that they
at least had at the stadium. It's where the opening
closing ceremonies took place, and whatnot. Beautiful Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
And what's what's really interesting about this time of year is,
you know, so much of our focus now college fall playoff.
We got a week here to prep. You don't only
have the bowl games that people care about anymore, but
the playoff because it's twelve teams, Like, there's plenty to
think about. NFL football, We're getting ready for the playoffs.
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NBA basketball still hasn't really captured our attention. And this
used to be the time which the Hot Stove League
was just on fire. But last couple of years, for
a myriad of reasons, there hasn't been the amount of
movement or the volume of signings that there were in
years past. Oftentimes guys got grinded to the last moment.
Let's catch up with John Morosi. JP Morossi joins us
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year on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radios
are Fox Sports Radio MLB Insider And what about this year?
What it feels a little different in the Hot Stove
League in terms of the volume of high level deals
being done at this point in time.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Well, Doug, good afternoon. You're right, it's an interesting dynamic
to watch unfold because we were at the Winter Meetings
this week in Orlando and we had a number of
fairly significant deals happened. I think most importantly the Mets
losing Edwin Diaz to the Dodgers and then losing Pete
Alonzo to the Orioles. That was two significant bits of news.
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And as you know, Doug, Mets fans are always very
very patient and understanding and no one is feeling and
the overreactions to they asked you this, of course, son
and cheek, because Mets fans are very fired up about this.
And then Kyle Swarber going back to the Philadelphia Phillies,
Robert Suatez going to the Brave. So there's been enough
of a significant rush of news that I think we
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have the table set quite nicely. Still some some big
ticket items out there, Kyle Tucker, bobashett, A lot of
the pitching is still out there, Fumber Valdez and Rangers
Suatez as well. So there are enough other moves still
to come that I feel like we're at a really
nice point. Well, I think we're very much on pace, Doug.
With what I like to see from the timing of
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an MLB offseason.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Okay, let's start with the Mets. Uh, losing Pete Alonzo,
you know, losing your closer as well. You know this
last year they went out and got who they wanted
to get. Uh, What's what's your read on how they
what the roster looks like when things settle.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
It's the great question, Doug, because I allude to this.
The Mets fans really want to see some action here,
and they're not used to losing free agents of this profile.
Of course, it was just a year ago they signed
Juan Soto and it looked like they were going to
be the team that won every big free agent and
of course now that's no longer the case, and David
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Stearns clearly wants to do things a little bit differently.
Steve Cohen, we know, will spend big. He has done that.
But David Stearns, of course, he has the small market
roots there in Milwaukee, and he is willing to go
on a little bit more of a limited spending basis.
He likes to build in teams with a little more
athleticism that are a little better at run prevention. That
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was a hallmark of his teams in Milwaukee. And it's
probably going to take some time. And yet it's hard
to say that they are retrenching or in anything of
a rebuild mode. They're not, because they've already got Soto,
they already have Lindor was one of the highest paid player,
and the Geese. They still have a very expensive roster.
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Marcus Semon, who they acquired, is making a lot of money.
But the picture right now is incomplete, and I wonder
who the first basement's going to be. Will it be
Wilson contraras will it be someone else they acquire in trade.
But the reality is they've lost two of the most
popular players from the team, a team that, admittedly, in
David Stearns's defense, missed the playoffs. They've finished behind the
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Cincinnati read and a lot of other smaller market teams.
So it might take a little bit of time for
David Stearns's full vision to come into focus. And indeed,
we're still fairly early in the off season. You know,
one one arm that has been mentioned, actually mentioned too here,
Freddy Peralta in a trade or Trek Scoobel in a trade.
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He knows David Stearns does Peralta, he had him in Milwaukee,
he has one year left on his contract before free agency.
And then in Detroit, Trek Scoobel is there, and the
Mets do have a very healthy group of pros. I'm
of the mind that for the Tigers to move Trek
Scoogle that Nolan McClain would have to be in the deal.
The Mets probably say, no, way, no, how, it's too expensive.
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Well that's what would cost to bring in the best
pitcher in baseball. So I do think the Mets in
many ways, Doug, they are the team to watch carefully
right now, with still a lot of moves to be made.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's a Gottlieb show here on Fox Swarts Radio. What
about the Dodgers.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
The Dodgers, Doug, They've already brought in. Of course, as
we alluded to it, Edwin Diaz, they don't have to
do as much. I think their outfield is the spot
of their club that they will likely do the most
work on now that they've already addressed the bullpen with Daz.
I like their starting rotation a lot, and there's been
some conversation about them potentially moving Tyler Glass. Now maybe
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you gauge little interest on him and see see if
the team is going to overwhelm you. But by and large,
I like the way their roster sets up. I think
they've got I think the right amount of relief pitching
already in house. They've got some guys like River Ryan
Emmitt Sheen who are posed to have poised to have
a better and more complete confusions to their rotation this year.
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So if they make a move in the outfield again,
we've heard a little bit about Kyle Tucker. I tend
to think Tucker is going to go elsewhere, that he's
not going to be a Dodger. But I think the Dodgers,
the way they are doing business now is almost like
the way the Yankees used to doug which is, go ahead,
free agent, do your shopping, make your decision almost and
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then right before you finally decide where you're going to go,
call us back and see if we will match the
price that you already have. That was famously how the
Yankees got Mark kishera years ago. It appears that's how
the Dodgers got got Edwin Diaz just a few days ago.
And that, to me, Doug just speaks to what an
absolute financial colossus this Los Angeles Dodgers team is. They
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simply have zero limitations and they are very much in
a rich, get richer phase of their existence.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Stutg Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Who's the
sneaky team that has signed a couple of guys that
is that people around the league are not in going?
Speaker 7 (26:12):
That makes sense the Alana Braves, and we talked about
it off the top. Robert swat has added to their bullpen.
Now they have Swatez and Iglesias to help out what's
going to be a new first year manager and Walt Weiss.
They've already signed Mike Strumsky, who I think is a
very valuable contributor as well. They traded for Budyshield Dubond
from Houston and they still might actually make one more move,
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And the move that I have in my mind is
could they potentially pry Boba shut away from the Toronto
Blue Jays. That would be I think, a really big
time move if they're able to do it. I do
think that they have wherewithal two make a play like that,
I think from a financial spending standpoint, and I think
he would fit in that ballpark, in that lineup really
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really well. So I think the Braves have already had
a really great start. I like their rotation if they
get Schwellenbach healthy, which I expect they will, and Strider
as well. So I think the Braves right now have
a lot of rotation depth. I like the way they're looking,
and I think they have very quietly put themselves right
back in the conversation for a postseason birth.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Okay, the opposite question, who's a team that has people
scratching their heads? What are they doing?
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Well?
Speaker 7 (27:27):
The Mets first and foremost, but we've already talked about them.
I think that they're the team that I want to
see a little more from. But I think elsewhere, the
New York Yankees they have some work to do as well,
with how things have gone for them so far. Yes,
and they bring me back Trent Grisham is a good move,
but they still need Cody Bellinger. The Detroit Tigers are
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a team that I think has a lot of questions
to answer about how they are planning on arranging their lineup.
There's a little bit of redundancy there, and I think
they've been a little passive in terms of the fact
that they have Scooble, Mize, and Flaherty all but just
one year to go before free agency. So we're waiting
for that big time splash for the Tigers who really
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show their series about winning a championship while they still
have Schooble. And then I think on the selling side,
the team that we're waiting really waiting to see what
they're gonna do, the Saint Louis Cardinals, Doug. They have
a ton of prospects that they're trying to build up
from within, and they'll augment that group by trading their
controllable veteran players Brendan Donovan, Nolan Gorman, Lars newtbar Alec Burlison.
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They've got one year left of Nolan Arnado. They have
Wilson Contreras as I mentioned before, so of all the sellers,
the Saint Louis Cardinals, Doug, they are the team that
I believe could do the most to furnish other teams
with their offensive needs and then continue to build up
that prospect group that's already gotten stronger by their earlier
trade of Sonny Gray to Boston.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
John, you're the best man. Always great information, great pass forward.
I do want to ask you about Michigan. We talked
about Michigan hoops, we talk about mission football with you
as a Michigan guy. When the Sharon story, Sharon Moore
story has played out, what's your reaction.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Well, it really gets to the question of leadership. And
this is not the first issue that has happened under
Ward Manual, So there has to be a lot of
questions that they asked about what his vision is going
forward and will he be the person to make the
choices going forward. The other thing is now the timing
of this, So it's almost as though the interim president
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who has a very difficult job. You're the interim president
and now you have to make a decision. First and foremost,
is Ward Manual the right person to make this decision?
And then you have to make that relatively quickly, and
if he's not the right person, you have to find
the right person. And then you have to make the
most important hire in the athletic department, which is who
is the next football coach. Now, I've heard de Boor's
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name and all the names we've all heard, but it
seems to me that that there has been for a
long time around this university the notion Doug that oh,
you've got to be a Michigan man to lead Michigan.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
The way that this, the internal politics of this have
played out in recent years would suggest to me that
it's probably time for some fresh leadership and that there
needs to be a real thorough examination of how things
have been done. Obviously, under Harbaugh they had some success
the results of the science stealing scandal, and then even
in the midst of the science stealing scandal and penalties
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that have had to have been paid out which are numerous,
and suspensions that have happened, and show cause penalties that
have been handed out, they just promoted from within to
have a Heron Morby the head coach, which obviously now
we can see did not work out. So it seems
to me for an athletic department that has always prized
continuity and tradition and the notions of integrity. They may
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need to have someone else's ideas of integrity to help
them relearn what that's all about. And I think that
probably means bringing someone who has add a lot of
accomplishments from the outside. But also, let's not forget squeaky
clean Doug. What the what they're doing here with Bryce Underwood?
All the money that they had to spend there on
the nil, how do you now handle that young man
entering just his second season on campus. Big decisions ahead
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here at UM, No.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Question, JP is the best man. Thanks for joining us.
Mery Christmas to you. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Thanks Doug, happy holladays all the best of the season.
Really appreciate it.
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The Press.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
The Press, Dann, What do you got, Bud?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Doug. We'll get to some details on the Sharon Moore
court hearing, but former Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh, who
had more on his staff, had more takeover for him
while Harball was serving suspensions. Well, Harbaugh now the head
coach of the Los Angeles Charger, asked today about Sharon
Moore's situation in Ann Arbor.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
Still processing that that.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Heard that.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Chad Jessup told me one of our equipment guys when
we're coming off the field on Thursday. So it still
processing that like a lot of people, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
So that was the Chargers head coach. Now. As for
Sharon Moore, charged with three counts today fell into charge
of home invasion and misdemeanor charges of stalking and breaking
and entering Wednesday's alleged incidents. Prosecutors say that he threatened
to kill himself while in the presence of the victim
while grabbing a butter knife and scissors. Also, bond was
said for twenty five thousand dollars as more, will be
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required to wear a GPS device and cannot leave the
state of Michigan. He's due back in court on the
three Chargers in January.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Wow, I actually like Jim Harbaugh's response right where he's
just he said nothing thing, but he said nothing in
a way in which it bought him time. Still processing.
In other words, I got to find out, like I
don't want to say something stupid because I just don't
know what to say here. That's really what it comes
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down to. Sometimes I wish I would do that. I
need to do that. When I get to what I'm
gonna say something, I still processing, Still still processing.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
We just talked a little bit earlier about the news
with Utah football coach Kyle Whittingham stepping down after twenty
one seasons. He'll coach in the Las Vegas Ball for
the Utes. The Athletic points out in breaking the story
that Whittingham is not done coaching. This is not a retirement.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, And there's also the story that private equity is
now going to have a stake in Utah athletics, right, Yeah,
So you do wonder if Whitningham's like, yeah, I used
to work for people that were in sports, and I
don't want to work for private equity, and for that reason,
I'm out. I don't know. So sounds like Kyle Whitningham
(34:59):
was forced out. Right, You're still going to keep coaching,
and you've been the longest, the longest tender head coach
in the history of the school, the second longest tender
head coach in the nation, and you still want to
keep coaching. But you're not going to coach at Utah,
doesn't that mean you were fired?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah? Maybe it's we look at fired as someone not
meaning expectations, but it's tough to think that. You know,
he didn't meet expectations at Utah. I know he said
he didn't want to go out last year. They had
a tough year last year, that he didn't want to
go out like that, and now we'll do so. After
the Las Vegas Bowl against Nebraska, the Chiefs will be
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down three offensive linemen and wide receiver Hollywood Brown when
they faced the Chargers coming up in week fifteen on Sunday,
Kansas City banged up, but playing the home game is
Remember the first meeting between these two teams was in
Brazil in Week one.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mean it's not like the Charges are healthy, right,
they lost their book end tackles for the year. But yeah,
when you're a Charger Van, you're like, ah, finally somebody
else's as or more banged up than we are.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
So Tejit TJ. Watt. He is banged up because of
a dry needling procedure that collapsed is lung on Wednesday,
had a procedure done and is not likely to face
the Dolphins on Monday. He has not been ruled out
for the season for the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I mean they were doing needling and the collapse is lung.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I think it was kind of I guess that's that
was the report.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's basically actually sure that that trainers can do. You
don't have to be an acupuncturist to do. But yeah,
the needles don't go in that far or that area.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Sir am So Shane Steiken says that no decision has
been made on who will start a quarterback for them
the Colts matchup against the Seahawks coming up in week fifteen.
I would think, Doug that we would probably know if
there's announcement today within the next few hours, because it's
almost Rivers bedtime and so he wouldn't find out until
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Saturday morning if a decision was made. I think that
would only be fair.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Where's the where's the rim shot?
Speaker 8 (37:07):
There?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Iowa Sam So that Jason wants Jason wants the halo,
But I think that is just as damaging as the
the fake little after that Sam plays. I think played.
I didn't play fake. I know, I know, but that
was the argument that we had at well, thank you
very much. So I thought that that was I think
that was very appropriate.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
I thought it lessened it a little. I thought like
it like it was, like, yeah, it was. It was funny,
it was. But anyways, I.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Was I thought you guys had planned it. I thought
the rim shot was coming. I just did.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Riley Leonard off the practice report. He has a chance
to start instead of rivers. That's the press. They get
out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
We do hope it's trailer rivers, don't we I sure do.
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Uh got a road wind. Last night, boys beat IU
Indy the Jaguars. They play a style called the System.
They press trap the whole game. We were down three
at the half, not playing poorly. They were playing well
and big set and a half fifty two in the
second half and still a lot of meat left on
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the bone where we felt like we could have played
even better. But it doesn't matter, just one more point
than the opponent. But byer I was I was definitely
thinking of you last night because you're a Midwest guy.
Same thing with you, Sam and One continue to think
we had this. We had a seven hour bus ride
on the way home, which is a long time, and
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it's one of those things that we're in your head.
You go, okay, well to fly to Indianapolis from Green Bay, Wisconsin,
if you don't have a charter. We didn't have charters.
You you gotta go to the airport. Now, I can
make a flight that leaves thirty minutes after our show's done,
because it takes fifteen minutes to get there, and you
only have to be in your flight really fifteen twenty
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minutes before it takes off if you're not checking backs.
But when you have a group, you got to get.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
There like an hour early pre check. Dug.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, but again, you haven't been to Green Bay. A
green Bay, there's there is a pre check, but you don't.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
There's no line right right right, so you can get
through it even faster at other airports if you're your TC.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
TAN, I do clear, and now clear offers clear and
pre check, so I'll do the I'll do both, and
then I got my kids on it as well. It's
clear as awesome. But yeah, you can get them both
now and just see which one's shorter. On those big airports,
I'd just choose clear. And it's super simple anyway. So
again you factor in your mind. Okay, well, if you
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fly commercial, it's you leave at say, even if you
lived at four thirty, you got to get there at
three thirty. If you're flying with a group, right, even
if you're not checking your checking like you know, the
basketballs or we don't bring basketball's, the uniforms and all
the medical equipment whatever. So you got to get to
the three thirty. We didn't let you would have landed
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until nine thirty. And again you're going through Chicago. There's
always usually delays. Could have been ten could have been
ten thirty. Now remember you lose an hour, so it's like,
you know, roughly an hour less time to do it
on flights. If the flights, if there's not a long
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layover and everything works out right, we bust down, bust back.
Seven hours is a long bust ride.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's that was especially at night. But you a lot.
You gain an hour going back, right.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It still took seven hours. I mean, I just want
to want to point that out. We did get an
hour back. We still took seven hours, now when you
it was, it's really six hours, but six six and
a half or so six maybe six fifteen. But we
stopped at a truck stop midway, got a bunch of snacks,
took a picture, you know, it's kind of like a
little tradish whatever. But and we were listening to we
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had great conversations, listened to a bunch of I was
I had the ox playing mostly country music and and
some slow jams on the way. And it's great when
you win buyer. When's what's the longest bus ride you've
ever been on.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
The longest probably about four hours.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, I mean, listen, the buses are great now, like
that one wasn't a brand new one, but it has
the new ones. They have Wi Fi. You know, you
can want and and and the fact they have screens
doesn't really matter because everybody watches on their phones now
their iPads. But you have Wi Fi, you can do whatever.
You can get up and go to the bathroom and
can walk around. But yeah, that was a long bus ride.
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That was That was That was long. That was long.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Could have been much longer if you left with an Now.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh my gosh, we lose that game. Image can imagine
seven hours you losing a game.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I appreciate uh IU Indianapolis's efforts to honor the home city,
but those were some of the worst uniforms that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
They look like every guy got run over by a car. Checker,
check your flag, but looked a little bit like skid
like skid marks. And when I say skid marks, I
don't mean the.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The skyline of Indianapolis. Tire tread marks.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, tire tread marks.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yes, that's what it looked like, skid marks whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No, skid marks are just when you break though.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, that's when you break. Yeah, but also skid marks break.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Or there's other the double on done, yeah as well
the other part to it. Here's some some stuff you
should know. My least favorite uniforms. You guys know which
our four uniforms are. At least five uniforms are our
least favorite.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The one I don't know, the ones who were last.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Night, Yeah, the green ones. We've never I've never We've
never won in the Green ones. Now, granted we didn't
win very many games last year. We haven't won very
many games overall. But my my director of bass Woaps
came and the captain. He kind of snucked those in
under the wire. Usually asked me, what do you want
to wear? And I always go like, when we're black
or we're white. If not, we'll wear the gray. And well,
I walk out, I walk out for pre game and
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I look in the locker room and all the green uniforms,
Like you snuck it in there, didn't you. So now,
of course next road game we have to wear the
green again. Have to. Now I'm stuck my least favorite ones.
They're my least favorite ones because I haven't redesigned them.
We just kept the old We redesigned the white ones
last year, the black ones this year. The green ones
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are supposed to be next year. So we're trying to
do you'll love this buyer. We're trying to do Title
Town uniforms where the green would say Title Town USA,
and the logo instead of the GB logo would be
the Green Bay logo.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
The Packers are like cool with it. Then the league,
the NFL is like no, that's no, that's Nike. Can
do no, can't do it, can't do it. I'm telling you,
the renderings of these uniforms are so sweet. You're like dude,
those would sell like hotcakes. Those are really cool. Apparently
too cool. Apparently too cool. All right, let's get the
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latest in the Sharon Moore investigation. He was a Rain
facing one felony charge, third degree home invasion, two misdemeanors stalking,
a domestic relationship, and breaking the enery. So Bayer, give
me the give me the what we what we've been
able to put together as the story from Monday.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, so there was a lot leading up to it.
Wall Street Journal had a piece about this relationship. But
what prosecutors said today was that the victim, the woman,
ended the relationship with Sharon Moore on Monday morning. She
then was harassed by More that day continuously, and then
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Monday afternoon, after dealing with More and his alleged harassment,
she went to the school to give the information or
investigators and reveal their relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And so they so they didn't know in September and
it was investigation.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yes, so they both denied it. That's what was reported.
But that's the This is the thing about this portion
of it is there's the court case that is dealing
with what happened on Wednesday. Everything else is kind of
behind that. In trying to fill in the gaps and
who knew what. But there were reports over the last
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twenty four hours that the school had done an investigation
and had asked both parties whether they were in a relationship.
Both denied it, so it didn't go anywhere. But then
on Monday, after feeling whatever feeling she felt following the breakup, decided,
all right, I'm going to I'm going to reveal what
actually did happen. It was then on Wednesday, when he
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was fired, that he went over to the alleged victim's
place and then made the threats that he's actually facing
in court. So that's what has happened this week according
to prosecutors.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, the quote that's going around, and it's a good one,
is from Nick Saban's book, You've heard the Centurion. You
can't what he says book, you can't sleep with anybody
who has less to lose than you do. And so
for him, the only one you know his when in
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his mind Hillary Clinton was like the only one who
could could uh could lose more than he would lose.
I think that was the parallel drawn. And this is
the perfect example why because the young woman ends the relationship,
it gets public she'll get some public shame and aliation,
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but her professional life isn't over her personal life. While
a mess isn't as messy as his is. I do think,
I do think what's interesting about it is everyone operates
under the assumption and we don't know. There'll be emails
that we text if there's an investigation with when these
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things go to court, they'll be disclosure and we'll find out.
But people do operate in the assumption that Michigan knew
about this all the time, sat on it, waited til
the season was over, and only after the season is
over then they executed it because they want to fire
Sharon Moore. Right, that's the diabolical We found a way
to get rid of Sharon more and here's what happened.
Sort of thing again, still could be possible, but that's
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where so many people's brain went. And this story does
contradict that on some level. It does contradict. They may
have been alerted to it, but they investigated it and
both people said that not happening. Just people just think
that's happening, but it ain't. And you do come to
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a stalemate, and if no one, if there's no one
else with firsthand information he said and she said, are
both the same. It does. The investigation does die, It
really does.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, that's the that's the point that and there were
different reports on when this happened. Some said in the summer,
some said in October. But ultimately, to your point, Doug,
if Sharon Moore wasn't cooperating and this then now alleged
victim wasn't cooperating at the time, that's kind of been
the statement is there wasn't anything that they could go
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on or had anything or had any evidence that there
was a relationship between the two.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
What is also needs clarifying is because and I've mentioned
it in reports and you may have talked about it earlier,
but in the alleged incident on Wednesday, More never threatened
the woman. But he did say my blood is on
your hands, where he did threaten to take his own life,
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So he did threaten to take his own life, but
he did not threaten the woman, you know, with her life.
If that's any clarification.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think all of those things again and yeah, I
mean I don't need to preface this, but I will
just again so people understand, none of these things are okay, right,
Stalking showing up, harassing or any sorts of threats to
yourself or to others are okay. But if it is
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the desperation of, Hey, I just lost my entire life
after we, you know, came to a conclusion we weren't
going to tell anybody to say nothing to nobody about nothing,
and then all of a sudden you go and tell
everybody something and the whole world comes crashing down. You know.
I think it ends up being a misdemeanor and sort
of going away. What it does, though, is it just
(12:36):
cast a completely ugly light on torn More and makes it.
It shows you the desperation in what happened, what transpired
over those three days or ever how long those days were. Yeah,
I mean, like I do I think he's going to jail.
I don't, but I do think that this point, I mean, there's.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Been a lot said, There's been a lot to talk
about his mental health and whether or not he goes
to jail or not, or how permissible that will be
a trial or if this goes a trial. But I
think that that's like the classic, that's the classic. I
guess legal they probably talk about this in law schools. Yep,
does he did he have mental issues and did this
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this episode trigger those mental issues, or as Doug just said,
he just received news that his life was devastated and
he had this episode. Is it a one time deal.
Was he fully aware of his actions or does he
have a mental health issue that could be proven in court?
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And then you gotta obviously lit up on the guy.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, I mean again, I'm with you, Dan, I mean
with you Jason, Like, we don't know what's interesting about
the mental health issues. And yes, obviously lawyers do go
to that and feels like they go to it way
too easily, so right, what is interesting is if you've
ever been around somebody that has legitimate depression and mental
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health issues, you actually get for me, you get offended
at people who have mental breakdowns because their life is
spiraling because of their own deciding. These are two different things,
as we're both pointing out, and that's really hard. It's
hard to not feel like you're empathetic towards mental health
issues when you're saying that. But I think we all
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know that there is a there is a distinct and
unique difference.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Also, just to add on separately, the Wall Street Journal,
in their reporting said that there were two other women
who did tell university officials that more made unwanted advances
to them online. That's a report, but that was not
mentioned with the in the court case today. So when
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we're talking about did the university know, I think those
allegations are are something that are going to be under
the microscope on did people bring this up to the
university and they didn't look or was it just part
of the investigation into that relationship or what. But that
was brought up by the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well what did you know? When did you know? What
did you do about it? That's any of these investigations.
That's what it has to do with. By the way,
my boy Pat listening to the show. Thanks so much. Pat.
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did somebody run them over? What is that tire marks
on them? That was weird.
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think we have semi breaking news. Let's get to Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, Doug, Let's just do the whole update from here,
because there is news just in. It's not surprising, but
it is just in Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham announcing
that the Las Vegas Ball will be his last game
as the head coach of the Utah football program. Stepping
down is Winningham, So when they play in the Las
Vegas Bowl, it will be Kyle Whittingham's the last game.
(16:46):
He was a friend of the show for a while here,
probably still a friend. We just haven't been in his
touch anymore. But it also seemed like in the last
game that they had at Rice Echos that the writing
was on the wall that it was probably winning Aham's
last game that he was going to be coaching in
the home stadium.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
But that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Wait what makes you say that, Dan? It was just
a lot of when you heard his press conference in
the way that he that he spoke and uh, just
in the uh because I think they didn't they lose
their last game. It was very emotional in uh in
that conversation. So are they playing Nebraska coming up in
the Las Vegas Bowl which is on New Year's Eve
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this year.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
A couple of things about Las Vegas Bowl. The highest
population of Mormons in the city is in Salt Lake City.
Second highest population is in uh, Las Vegas, So that'll
be a celebration. Here's a guy that played at b
YU and is an absolute legend at Utah, an incredibly
(17:49):
well respected football coach. And those are gigantic shoes to
fall to fill, gigantic shoes.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
To fill in a nice year too.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Tenant, they were kind of an outside looking in playoff
tension playoff team ten and two.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, and then the last game at Rice Ecles was
a win against Kansas State. But there was a crazy
game where they came back and I think that was
part of the emotions as well at that point.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Now and he was the second longest tenured coach. Now
is Kirk Farence is the dean of college football is
by a mile because it was Gundy, Whittingham and Farence
and now they're both gone or will be both of
those will be gone. Guys will be gone. So it's
ference still sitting there as going into year twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
They'd game. Yeah, they've had a succession plan. They're like
in place where Morgan Scaley, their defensive coordinator, will take over.
I assume that that is the plan. I don't know
if there'll be a passing of the torch at the
Las Vegas bull or or what it is, but it'll be.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They actually had a physical torch.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
They Hey, they got one at the stadium from the
from the Olympics back in the day.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So yeah, and there's kind of a torch in Vegas too, right,
isn't there?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Ye oh yeah, there is caldron really Cata cauldron. Yes, absolutely.
So that news just in with college football, the big
news of.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
The Dan and I are like the only two people
who know that because we've actually been to the stadium
and watched and paid attention to the game. We look
at the quirky stuff that other people don't look at.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And I've been I've been to a Utes game and
it's been a little while. It's been about fifteen years
since I was there. About one of the neat things
was checking out all the Winter Olympics stuff that they
at least had at the stadium. It's where the opening
closing ceremonies took place, and whatnot. Beautiful Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
And what's what's really interesting about this time of year is,
you know, so much of our focus now college fall playoff.
We got a week here to prep. You don't only
have the bowl games that people care about anymore, but
the playoff because it's twelve teams, Like, there's plenty to
think about. NFL football, We're getting ready for the playoffs.
(19:55):
NBA basketball still hasn't really captured our attention. And this
used to be the time which the Hot Stove League
was just on fire. But last couple of years, for
a myriad of reasons, there hasn't been the amount of
movement or the volume of signings that there were in
years past. Oftentimes guys got grinded to the last moment.
Let's catch up with John Morosi. JP Morossi joins us
(20:16):
year on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radios
are Fox Sports Radio MLB Insider And what about this year?
What it feels a little different in the Hot Stove
League in terms of the volume of high level deals
being done at this point in time.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Well, Doug, good afternoon. You're right, it's an interesting dynamic
to watch unfold because we were at the Winter Meetings
this week in Orlando and we had a number of
fairly significant deals happened. I think most importantly the Mets
losing Edwin Diaz to the Dodgers and then losing Pete
Alonzo to the Orioles. That was two significant bits of news.
(20:52):
And as you know, Doug, Mets fans are always very
very patient and understanding and no one is feeling and
the overreactions to they asked you this, of course, son
and cheek, because Mets fans are very fired up about this.
And then Kyle Swarber going back to the Philadelphia Phillies,
Robert Suatez going to the Brave. So there's been enough
of a significant rush of news that I think we
(21:15):
have the table set quite nicely. Still some some big
ticket items out there, Kyle Tucker, bobashett, A lot of
the pitching is still out there, Fumber Valdez and Rangers
Suatez as well. So there are enough other moves still
to come that I feel like we're at a really
nice point. Well, I think we're very much on pace, Doug.
With what I like to see from the timing of
(21:38):
an MLB offseason.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Okay, let's start with the Mets. Uh, losing Pete Alonzo,
you know, losing your closer as well. You know this
last year they went out and got who they wanted
to get. Uh, What's what's your read on how they
what the roster looks like when things settle.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
It's the great question, Doug, because I allude to this.
The Mets fans really want to see some action here,
and they're not used to losing free agents of this profile.
Of course, it was just a year ago they signed
Juan Soto and it looked like they were going to
be the team that won every big free agent and
of course now that's no longer the case, and David
(22:20):
Stearns clearly wants to do things a little bit differently.
Steve Cohen, we know, will spend big. He has done that.
But David Stearns, of course, he has the small market
roots there in Milwaukee, and he is willing to go
on a little bit more of a limited spending basis.
He likes to build in teams with a little more
athleticism that are a little better at run prevention. That
(22:42):
was a hallmark of his teams in Milwaukee. And it's
probably going to take some time. And yet it's hard
to say that they are retrenching or in anything of
a rebuild mode. They're not, because they've already got Soto,
they already have Lindor was one of the highest paid player,
and the Geese. They still have a very expensive roster.
(23:02):
Marcus Semon, who they acquired, is making a lot of money.
But the picture right now is incomplete, and I wonder
who the first basement's going to be. Will it be
Wilson contraras will it be someone else they acquire in trade.
But the reality is they've lost two of the most
popular players from the team, a team that, admittedly, in
David Stearns's defense, missed the playoffs. They've finished behind the
(23:26):
Cincinnati read and a lot of other smaller market teams.
So it might take a little bit of time for
David Stearns's full vision to come into focus. And indeed,
we're still fairly early in the off season. You know,
one one arm that has been mentioned, actually mentioned too here,
Freddy Peralta in a trade or Trek Scoobel in a trade.
(23:46):
He knows David Stearns does Peralta, he had him in Milwaukee,
he has one year left on his contract before free agency.
And then in Detroit, Trek Scoobel is there, and the
Mets do have a very healthy group of pros. I'm
of the mind that for the Tigers to move Trek
Scoogle that Nolan McClain would have to be in the deal.
The Mets probably say, no, way, no, how, it's too expensive.
(24:09):
Well that's what would cost to bring in the best
pitcher in baseball. So I do think the Mets in
many ways, Doug, they are the team to watch carefully
right now, with still a lot of moves to be made.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's a Gottlieb show here on Fox Swarts Radio. What
about the Dodgers.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
The Dodgers, Doug, They've already brought in. Of course, as
we alluded to it, Edwin Diaz, they don't have to
do as much. I think their outfield is the spot
of their club that they will likely do the most
work on now that they've already addressed the bullpen with Daz.
I like their starting rotation a lot, and there's been
some conversation about them potentially moving Tyler Glass. Now maybe
(24:48):
you gauge little interest on him and see see if
the team is going to overwhelm you. But by and large,
I like the way their roster sets up. I think
they've got I think the right amount of relief pitching
already in house. They've got some guys like River Ryan
Emmitt Sheen who are posed to have poised to have
a better and more complete confusions to their rotation this year.
(25:09):
So if they make a move in the outfield again,
we've heard a little bit about Kyle Tucker. I tend
to think Tucker is going to go elsewhere, that he's
not going to be a Dodger. But I think the Dodgers,
the way they are doing business now is almost like
the way the Yankees used to doug which is, go ahead,
free agent, do your shopping, make your decision almost and
(25:29):
then right before you finally decide where you're going to go,
call us back and see if we will match the
price that you already have. That was famously how the
Yankees got Mark kishera years ago. It appears that's how
the Dodgers got got Edwin Diaz just a few days ago.
And that, to me, Doug just speaks to what an
absolute financial colossus this Los Angeles Dodgers team is. They
(25:55):
simply have zero limitations and they are very much in
a rich, get richer phase of their existence.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Stutg Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Who's the
sneaky team that has signed a couple of guys that
is that people around the league are not in going?
Speaker 7 (26:12):
That makes sense the Alana Braves, and we talked about
it off the top. Robert swat has added to their bullpen.
Now they have Swatez and Iglesias to help out what's
going to be a new first year manager and Walt Weiss.
They've already signed Mike Strumsky, who I think is a
very valuable contributor as well. They traded for Budyshield Dubond
from Houston and they still might actually make one more move,
(26:34):
And the move that I have in my mind is
could they potentially pry Boba shut away from the Toronto
Blue Jays. That would be I think, a really big
time move if they're able to do it. I do
think that they have wherewithal two make a play like that,
I think from a financial spending standpoint, and I think
he would fit in that ballpark, in that lineup really
(26:58):
really well. So I think the Braves have already had
a really great start. I like their rotation if they
get Schwellenbach healthy, which I expect they will, and Strider
as well. So I think the Braves right now have
a lot of rotation depth. I like the way they're looking,
and I think they have very quietly put themselves right
back in the conversation for a postseason birth.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Okay, the opposite question, who's a team that has people
scratching their heads? What are they doing?
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Well?
Speaker 7 (27:27):
The Mets first and foremost, but we've already talked about them.
I think that they're the team that I want to
see a little more from. But I think elsewhere, the
New York Yankees they have some work to do as well,
with how things have gone for them so far. Yes,
and they bring me back Trent Grisham is a good move,
but they still need Cody Bellinger. The Detroit Tigers are
(27:48):
a team that I think has a lot of questions
to answer about how they are planning on arranging their lineup.
There's a little bit of redundancy there, and I think
they've been a little passive in terms of the fact
that they have Scooble, Mize, and Flaherty all but just
one year to go before free agency. So we're waiting
for that big time splash for the Tigers who really
(28:10):
show their series about winning a championship while they still
have Schooble. And then I think on the selling side,
the team that we're waiting really waiting to see what
they're gonna do, the Saint Louis Cardinals, Doug. They have
a ton of prospects that they're trying to build up
from within, and they'll augment that group by trading their
controllable veteran players Brendan Donovan, Nolan Gorman, Lars newtbar Alec Burlison.
(28:34):
They've got one year left of Nolan Arnado. They have
Wilson Contreras as I mentioned before, so of all the sellers,
the Saint Louis Cardinals, Doug, they are the team that
I believe could do the most to furnish other teams
with their offensive needs and then continue to build up
that prospect group that's already gotten stronger by their earlier
trade of Sonny Gray to Boston.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
John, you're the best man. Always great information, great pass forward.
I do want to ask you about Michigan. We talked
about Michigan hoops, we talk about mission football with you
as a Michigan guy. When the Sharon story, Sharon Moore
story has played out, what's your reaction.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Well, it really gets to the question of leadership. And
this is not the first issue that has happened under
Ward Manual, So there has to be a lot of
questions that they asked about what his vision is going
forward and will he be the person to make the
choices going forward. The other thing is now the timing
of this, So it's almost as though the interim president
(29:37):
who has a very difficult job. You're the interim president
and now you have to make a decision. First and foremost,
is Ward Manual the right person to make this decision?
And then you have to make that relatively quickly, and
if he's not the right person, you have to find
the right person. And then you have to make the
most important hire in the athletic department, which is who
is the next football coach. Now, I've heard de Boor's
(29:59):
name and all the names we've all heard, but it
seems to me that that there has been for a
long time around this university the notion Doug that oh,
you've got to be a Michigan man to lead Michigan.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
The way that this, the internal politics of this have
played out in recent years would suggest to me that
it's probably time for some fresh leadership and that there
needs to be a real thorough examination of how things
have been done. Obviously, under Harbaugh they had some success
the results of the science stealing scandal, and then even
in the midst of the science stealing scandal and penalties
(30:34):
that have had to have been paid out which are numerous,
and suspensions that have happened, and show cause penalties that
have been handed out, they just promoted from within to
have a Heron Morby the head coach, which obviously now
we can see did not work out. So it seems
to me for an athletic department that has always prized
continuity and tradition and the notions of integrity. They may
(30:59):
need to have someone else's ideas of integrity to help
them relearn what that's all about. And I think that
probably means bringing someone who has add a lot of
accomplishments from the outside. But also, let's not forget squeaky
clean Doug. What the what they're doing here with Bryce Underwood?
All the money that they had to spend there on
the nil, how do you now handle that young man
entering just his second season on campus. Big decisions ahead
(31:22):
here at UM, No.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Question, JP is the best man. Thanks for joining us.
Mery Christmas to you. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Thanks Doug, happy holladays all the best of the season.
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
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Speaker 3 (32:35):
The Press.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
The Press, Dann, What do you got, Bud?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Doug. We'll get to some details on the Sharon Moore
court hearing, but former Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh, who
had more on his staff, had more takeover for him
while Harball was serving suspensions. Well, Harbaugh now the head
coach of the Los Angeles Charger, asked today about Sharon
Moore's situation in Ann Arbor.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
Still processing that that.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Heard that.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Chad Jessup told me one of our equipment guys when
we're coming off the field on Thursday. So it still
processing that like a lot of people, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
So that was the Chargers head coach. Now. As for
Sharon Moore, charged with three counts today fell into charge
of home invasion and misdemeanor charges of stalking and breaking
and entering Wednesday's alleged incidents. Prosecutors say that he threatened
to kill himself while in the presence of the victim
while grabbing a butter knife and scissors. Also, bond was
said for twenty five thousand dollars as more, will be
(33:44):
required to wear a GPS device and cannot leave the
state of Michigan. He's due back in court on the
three Chargers in January.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Wow, I actually like Jim Harbaugh's response right where he's
just he said nothing thing, but he said nothing in
a way in which it bought him time. Still processing.
In other words, I got to find out, like I
don't want to say something stupid because I just don't
know what to say here. That's really what it comes
(34:13):
down to. Sometimes I wish I would do that. I
need to do that. When I get to what I'm
gonna say something, I still processing, Still still processing.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
We just talked a little bit earlier about the news
with Utah football coach Kyle Whittingham stepping down after twenty
one seasons. He'll coach in the Las Vegas Ball for
the Utes. The Athletic points out in breaking the story
that Whittingham is not done coaching. This is not a retirement.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, And there's also the story that private equity is
now going to have a stake in Utah athletics, right, Yeah,
So you do wonder if Whitningham's like, yeah, I used
to work for people that were in sports, and I
don't want to work for private equity, and for that reason,
I'm out. I don't know. So sounds like Kyle Whitningham
(34:59):
was forced out. Right, You're still going to keep coaching,
and you've been the longest, the longest tender head coach
in the history of the school, the second longest tender
head coach in the nation, and you still want to
keep coaching. But you're not going to coach at Utah,
doesn't that mean you were fired?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah? Maybe it's we look at fired as someone not
meaning expectations, but it's tough to think that. You know,
he didn't meet expectations at Utah. I know he said
he didn't want to go out last year. They had
a tough year last year, that he didn't want to
go out like that, and now we'll do so. After
the Las Vegas Bowl against Nebraska, the Chiefs will be
(35:36):
down three offensive linemen and wide receiver Hollywood Brown when
they faced the Chargers coming up in week fifteen on Sunday,
Kansas City banged up, but playing the home game is
Remember the first meeting between these two teams was in
Brazil in Week one.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mean it's not like the Charges are healthy, right,
they lost their book end tackles for the year. But yeah,
when you're a Charger Van, you're like, ah, finally somebody
else's as or more banged up than we are.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
So Tejit TJ. Watt. He is banged up because of
a dry needling procedure that collapsed is lung on Wednesday,
had a procedure done and is not likely to face
the Dolphins on Monday. He has not been ruled out
for the season for the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I mean they were doing needling and the collapse is lung.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
I think it was kind of I guess that's that
was the report.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's basically actually sure that that trainers can do. You
don't have to be an acupuncturist to do. But yeah,
the needles don't go in that far or that area.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Sir am So Shane Steiken says that no decision has
been made on who will start a quarterback for them
the Colts matchup against the Seahawks coming up in week fifteen.
I would think, Doug that we would probably know if
there's announcement today within the next few hours, because it's
almost Rivers bedtime and so he wouldn't find out until
(37:00):
Saturday morning if a decision was made. I think that
would only be fair.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Where's the where's the rim shot?
Speaker 8 (37:07):
There?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Iowa Sam So that Jason wants Jason wants the halo,
But I think that is just as damaging as the
the fake little after that Sam plays. I think played.
I didn't play fake. I know, I know, but that
was the argument that we had at well, thank you
very much. So I thought that that was I think
that was very appropriate.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
I thought it lessened it a little. I thought like
it like it was, like, yeah, it was. It was funny,
it was. But anyways, I.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Was I thought you guys had planned it. I thought
the rim shot was coming. I just did.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Riley Leonard off the practice report. He has a chance
to start instead of rivers. That's the press. They get
out there and pressed.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
That was the press.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
We do hope it's trailer rivers, don't we I sure do.
I'll be watching back Monday. Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports
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