December 23, 2024 • 37 mins
On this edition of "Love AND Hate", Doug and the crew share what they loved most and hated most from the sports weekend. Doug weighs in on Sam Darnold and what the Vikings do next. Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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taking my son to his first Packers game tonight, Packers Saints.
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It's not currently snowing, but it's supposed to snowmore tonight,
so hopefully we have a little snow globe game. We
got tickets where you can go indoors if it gets
a little cold. But well, he's got we're all, we're
all ready to go. It's not that cold tonight in
Green Bay. Not that cold, Jay Stu, Not that cold
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is just you know, is twenty seven degrees. Twenty seven degrees.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
But that's funny because I was just telling my dad,
who lives in upstate New York, I think there are
two degrees. I said, do you know what, I'm a
little annoyed that we're going to have a little weather
in southern California tomorrow. It might sprinkle and it's going
to be sixty.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Three sixty three degrees and it might sprinkle. Yeah. What's crazy, though,
is when you live in southern California and it gets
below sixty You're like, this is the coldest place on
earth because of what you're used to, Whereas now I've
been here for you know, six and a half months
or so, you know, mid twenties, Like, ah, that's not
that bad. It gets to the single digits and feels
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like negative, Yeah, that's coold, not a human alive. It's like, oh,
this is awesome. We do this every Monday. It's our
way of venting, our way of remembering, our way of
feeling the weekend. We call it love and hate.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
God? I love you?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
These player haters I little love, little hate. Let's uh,
what we love from the weekend, what we hate from
the weekend? Chris prefet I'll start with you.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well, right to me, Okay, I did I actually enjoyed, uh,
Notre Dame's playoff. I think this has been kind of
an interesting year for Notre Dame. And it's always like
you watch over the Dame in playoffs and you just
kind of hold your breath, right, And I feel like
Indiana was kind of even though they performed poorly, it
was still a really good offense versus defense matchup. I
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I thought coming into it, they're gonna have to go
into Georgia without.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
There's a really good offense.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, Notre Dame's got a really good defense. I I've
been scouting with a really good offense.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Indiana.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
They didn't have it in that game, but they've they're
not They've put up tons of points another game.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Games like I'll.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Hold by this either way, Notre Dame. I know a
lot of people Indiana was the trendy pick in the upset,
but like Notre Dame at home has been great and
there's a lot of good NFL prospects on there. It's
a little bit of a tinge because now they I
think Riley Mills we just heard in the update they're
not going to have them for the Georgia game, so
that's tough. I also really like Jaden Daniels from this weekend.
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That was an impressive final drive from that young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, okay, Jay Stu, what's you left on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Doug? I really like it when my instincts are correct.
In other words, I've been doing this for a long time,
and we do sports content for a living, and you
just want things to happen to just confirm that you're
still kind of you still have it. It's still got
my fastball, Doug, and I've got receipts to prove it,
because you know, we do in the bonus podcast after
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the show, and we've done this radio show now for
three and a half years together. When Tom Brady got
a ten year, three hundred and seventy five million dollar
deal from Fox, almost everybody, it's seemingly unanimously he was like, Oh,
he's going to be great at it, great signing. He's
gonna be great because he's the greatest that's ever done it.
I mean, how could you ever question whether or not
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he'll be great at it. And I remember at the
time thinking, how do you know? And I said it
out loud, how do we know? Because I got a
first row. I love witness first hand Magic Johnson for
my Lakers in the eighties, the greatest ever do it.
One of the most intuitive players, smart players, just a
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real leader, and he has been an absolute failure every
time he's gotten a broadcast gick and I fear Tom
Brady has gone more Magic Johnson than Troy Aikman. But
I do like the fact that my instincts are kind
of were a correct on this one.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, let's get to.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I take great offense that j Stu considers the Magic
Hour of failure.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh Man was Sheila. It was funny because Sheila E
was her band leader, and every time Magic would be like,
here's my band leader, Sheila E. Her band would play
O Sheila, but Sheila didn't do oh Sheila debarged at
(05:32):
oh Sheila. So I always thought that was weird contradiction.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
You seem unusually knowledgeable about the Magic Hour. I mean,
I mean, let me tell you, Johnny Cock, I almost said,
Johnny Cochran, Johnny Carson, Johnny Carson was shaking in his boots.
Of course, it was right around the time he retired. Anyway,
I don't remember the timing there, but the Magic Hour.
(05:59):
If that had been a lot to go, more than
eleven episodes would have gone down as the greatest late
night talk show host. Forget Carson, forget Letterman. I'm just saying,
all right, anyway, I'm gonna start with my my worst.
It was the college football playoff. I hated it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
None, hold on a second, we need to explain the
rules to Isaac Duck.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Oh okay, so we're all.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Gonna do it, and then we're gonna reset and do
what we hate.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, okay the first time of the show.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Ye, I'm sorry. All right, So I've got it backwards.
I'm gonna I'm gonna say what I loved, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It's called not hating and love.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
You know me, I I lead with hate and then
come around to love. So here's what I loved. I
was incredibly, extraordinarily amused by the complaining over the college
football playoff and how so many people just took it
way too seriously, and they took themselves too seriously, and
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it got personal, and it got all over social media.
And people are threatening each other all over the college
football platform when we are less than a generation removed
from one year in the BCS where we had the
Pete Carroll Matt Leinert USC Trojans getting robbed of playing
in the National Championship Game between Instead it was Oklahoma
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and LSU, and you had a big tech ceo offering
the NCAA gazillions of dollars to have USC play LSU
in a standalone game. He was the CEO of Gateway Computers.
That's how long it was ago. Gateway. Yeah, so it
was a complaint between two and three. And now everybody
has what they want and they still find a way
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to complain about it, which I found endlessly amusing. Just
keep on popping the popcorn. I'm here for it. If
I coit in one more quick, love, real quick. I
think we're calling it stumble Bum or stumble Rooski from
the Lions game. Just absolutely gem of a play. I
haven't gotten in any of my Lions here, but that
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was that was hilarious. I love the play. I had
no problem with them running it against the Bears. I
have nothing but contempt for that fan base, so I
loved it. Loved the stuffy that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Do you see that. Many people think it was a
copy of an actual fumble that happened with the Packers
against the Bears.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Well, I think they it was partly that it was
partly you remember against the Packers, the Lions, like Jared
Goff kind of stumbled a bit handing off the ball
to David Montgomery on fourth down. I felt like that
was part of the intention as well. And I know
Richard told me. You know, the Packers used to I mean,
the Patriots used to practice like this Danny woodhead play
where they'd snapped to him, but then Tom Brady would
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act like the snap had gone over his head and
turned around and start waving his arms. So tricker ration
wins the day.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah. I don't know why you needed to use to
beat the Bears, but yes, Okay, something I loved. I
love the new Kirkirk Street. Herbie calling out the fringes
of people that are on X, Herbie calling out first take,
Herbie getting swag. Herbie knows this thing like the back
of his head. Herbie even calling out the Ohio State
coaches because none of them called him to congratulate his
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son on signing at Michigan. I don't know what's gotten
into Herbie, but I love it. I love it. He's
been doing this for too long, has too much respect
for everybody to not just call it like he sees it.
And I get that they were tame on selection day
about it, but how he really feels has come out
how everybody feels, and the sport has come out that
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these brackets certain.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
What's your theory, Doug? Is it because he might have
like fu money with the Amazon deal and he's got
a lot of choices and he can say whatever, and
he's like in that unfireable range.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I think so, I think so.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think it's just like the Ohio State people. This
has been going on for years, people calling him a
fake Buckeye.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But again he's even point out those are the fringe people.
Those aren't real people. They don't really matter, they don't
really matter. What's gotten into him? I think it's you
see that now McAfee is on the set. I think
that's been good for him because McAfee's has crazy stuff
and he's like, yeah, I wait, I can say what
I really think? Yeah, you actually get paid for that?
(10:23):
Like all right, I think I'm sure it's been a
little bit of McAfee, a little bit of Saban's been
good for him because Saban says whatever the hell he wants.
You know, he's just surrounded by people who are starting
to just call it like they see it, and everybody's like, yeah,
I know way more that I'm letting on. I'm gonna
gonna let it out. And then yeah, you got two
great jobs. He had tons of money. I'm sure he's
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in a weird space. His dog died, you know, all
the things. So the new Herbie, that's what I love.
Let's get to what we hated from the weekend. Okay, now, Isaac,
now you can tell us what you didn't like.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Are you sure now right? Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Now?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Well I kind of gave it away earlier. But just
across the board, it started great because SMU had a
good opening drive against Penn State. Well, at least the
Saturday games did. SMU had a great opening drive on
against Penn State. They went forward on fourth down, they
had a great play call, but they missed the pass.
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I'm wondering if that's a touchdown, maybe that game maybe
goes differently. But yeah, across the board, man, they were
all awesome. Atmospheres, awesome hype, but the games just not
didn't live up to it. I think you'll see that
start to change as this twelve team college football playoff
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goes on in future years. At least I hope that's
what I hated.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Jay stew you're a great hater.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
What he if we can maybe lower the distortion here.
I'm actually being serious. I hated that we lost Ricky
Henderson Saturday. I want to say Saturday morning, I woke
up to a like an Instagram post from Dave Winfield
that had said that my teammate Ricky Henderson has passed away,
and then I guess all the you know, newsmakers and
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everything went out of their way to confirm it a
couple hours later. I don't know it was something about
that news that hit me hard. I think maybe because
I literally was alive and I watched him his entire
career and I enjoyed him thoroughly. Maybe because Ricky Henderson
was like a superhero on a baseball field and we
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lost him way too soon. Like if anybody was going
to be fit and healthy, and this just goes to
show you that, I guess if you are born with
co morbidities or what have you, that everything's a struggle.
But it really is sad to me. And Ricky represented
much more than a stolen based title. The runs title.
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You know, he won a couple of rings with multiple teams.
But his personality. Everyone loved Ricky Henderson. Everyone had a
funny Ricky Henderson's story. He mastered the art of calling
himself by the third person. He was just a true
like gift from the game of baseball, you know, personality wise,
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and an amazing player. Rip Ricky Henderson. Really sad day.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know what's interesting is, as you know, Jase do,
I host the Harold and Carroll Pump Foundation dinner every
year over at the Beverly Hilton, and one of the
people they honored this year was Ricky Henderson, and I
got to spend some time with him backstage. And first
of all, Ricky was tiny, like just an incredible athlete,
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but I don't know, five.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Eight built like a brick house though.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Absolutely and still even I mean, and I didn't know
he's sixty five, and I had no idea he had
any health issues that he passed away, But he was
so unbelievably gracious, gracious, and you know, the reputation when
you're a third person and talking about Ricky, b Ricky
and all those things, you'd think, but he was just
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because he didn't He clearly wasn't comfortable. I remember he
was standing up there speaking at the podium when he
received this award, and his left foot kept kind of
going up in the air, right, And you only do
that if you're nervous or you're uncomfortable. And yet, you know,
here's a thing that was just honoring him, and Bob
Costas actually introduced him. A one hundred and thirty stolen bases
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is disgusting. How about if I made this statement he
was better at his one great thing in baseball than
anybody has ever been dead good at. Like, there's no
one who is that much better at hitting home runs
than everybody else. There's nobody who's that much better getting
on base to anybody else. There's nobody is that much
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better at striking up but everybody out than anybody else,
more so than Ricky Henderson was as still a stealing basis.
Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's fair? And to go along with that, he had
I think the most loot off home runs of anybody ever.
I think he still has that record, even though the
modern day analytics baseball lineup has your power hitter at
the top of the order. So I'm sure that record
will fall. But he was really kind of way ahead
of his time. He was a powerful guy at the
top of the order. Most guys just batter their fastest
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guys in the top of the order. And he was
a showboat and he got away with it in an
era where if you were a showboat, the next guy
got a ball in the ear. For some reason, it
was forgivable when Ricky Henderson would pimp a home run
and Cadillac around the bases, and people loved Ricky so much.
They're like, Okay, no one else could do it, but
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that guy got Ricky.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But Ricky what I hate from the weekend? I got
to tell you I hated those college football games, Like
we'd waited so long for it, and this is what
we got. This is what we got really and the NFL,
you know, it wasn't like the NFL product was so
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great that you want to watch it, and you're like,
I can't watch these college it's non competitive. Finally got
a playoff and got non competitive games. Couldn't stand it.
That's love and hate. We can't Oh okay, I'm sorry, Prevet,
my bad.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
No, just I think dovetailing off of that my one
of my just two quick hates real quick. I'm gonna
direct it at Tennessee most of all, mostly because I
had to deal with the SEC hanks for most of
the day talking about you know, more SEC teams in
which like, okay, maybe that's true on a paper, but
also like you're being incredibly annoying about it NonStop when
your bylining constantly says SEC network. But more than that,
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you just gave so much ammunition to everyone from big
ten countries like, oh, just wait till these Southern teams
comes out and play in the cold. Tennessee looked cold,
Tennessee looked damn cold in Columbus and they played like it.
They played soft. They were not able to handle that
element at all. So like, congratulations, congratulations, everyone of Columbus
laughed as you were like shaking in the wind there.
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And then since Dan isn't here, I do have to
give a quick hate to man. I just don't see
it with the Seattle Seahawks. I've given them so many
chances over this year. I know people love Geno Smith
for whatever reason, but I feel like that was the
door slamming shot on the Seattle Seahawks yesterday against the
Minnesota Vikings. I just I don't know what this team
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does well at all.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
We have Dan online one. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
No, they're not great.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, and that's love and hate.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's love and hate.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
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Speaker 1 (17:57):
It's The Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to you
from thee diirec dot com studios. I saw this note
I want to share with you. You guys know I've been
on team Donald since before he was drafted. I know
Cowherd's claiming to be like the only guy or the guy.
He actually sold his Donald stock a while back and
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then tried to buy it back when it was no
longer a penny stock. But nonetheless, if he wants to
be captain of the Donald train, that's fine. Just know
that I have at least one train car on that train.
We saw this note. It was really good. No quarterback
has ever switched the team and won fourteen games in
their debut season with a new franchise. Donald has two
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opportunities left to become the first. On Sunday in Seattle,
Donald recorded a one twelve point three pass rating, marked
his twelfth game of the season with the pass rating
have at least one hundred. If Donald gets one more
the next two weeks, he'll join Aaron Rodgers and Pat
Mahomes is the only two quarterbacks ever to have thirteen
games with a one hundred plus rating in a single season.
Should be pointed out, we're in the first couple of
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years of having that additional seventeenth regular season game, so
it gives him an additional opportunity. Nonetheless, unbelievable year from
Sam Donald. Here's Kevin O'Connell talking about the play of
Sam Donald.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Sam's had some huge plays this year, considering the circumstances
and and kind of you know how that play kind
of came to life. For him to move up and
throw the ball really on the move there with that
kind of accuracy and to know where Justin was going
to be in the.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Moment was a remarkable play.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
You know, doesn't get better than that, and you know,
I thought, as I told the team, you know, his
twelfth time being over one hundred rating, which is a
very very significant number in our offense in this system.
What has become Sam's offense making some of the plays
and throws he did.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Here there's
Sam Darnold on Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Felt like I just needed to give him a shot,
you know, put it on his back hip and let
him do the rest. So and then, yeah, obviously, you
know my teammates being pumped up about it, wouldn't wouldn't
expect anything less. And you know I was just telling him, like,
you know, we got to get stop here.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You know, it's not over. So sure enough we did that.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Super proud of theo Jackson man, the way that he
was able to play today and step in when we
need the most.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's a pretty cool story. I don't think anybody would
dispute that, right and now the question is for the Vikings, like,
are you okay saying, hey, we have a first round pick,
we like him. We could have him sit there and
be a backup just in case, or we could trade him.
You know, I don't see I don't see anything wrong
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with keeping him, but I think you definitely have to
pay Sam Darnald and keep him, you know, I just
do uh. The marriage works between quarterback and coach, between players,
and you know, so much of this is about belief.
You know, you have to have your own personal self confidence,
but then everybody has to believe in you. And I
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just don't see how it works with J J. McCarthy.
The second something goes wrong next year, if they were
to move on from Donald and let them get a
big paycheck elsewhere, you'll get questioned about it. It's just
too hard. It's too hard to overcome that, I think personally.
So yeah, I just it's very gonna be very, very interesting.
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They're very interesting to see what happens with the Vikings.
If it's me I resigned Sam Donald, I don't go
top of the market, but you just go, hey, dude,
you made a lot of the money in this league.
You can make a lot of money elsewhere. It works here.
Try and stay in the thirties and keep them both
all right. It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Jase
(21:58):
Dot I do have a question for Yeah, where are
you on Diehard too? Okay, everybody talks about die Hard. Yeah,
and when my kids were lost to tell my son heyes,
you know he he was like, you know, what did
you do when we were asleep on Christmas Eve? I
was like, Wow, get the stockings, get everything ready for
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the big guy. And then I'd always watched Diehard. It
did dawn upon me that I haven't watched Diehard Too
more than like two or three times. I like Diehard Too.
I thought it was a really good sequel, still cheesy
as the first whatever, But where are you on Diehard Too?
It never gets mentioned in either the all the great
Christmas movies, nor does it get mentioned at all, Like
everybody just talks about Diehard as if die Hard Too
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and Annix Skywalk never happened.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I think it hits a lot of the same notes
as the first one. In other words, the director and
movie creators were like, the first one works so well,
and nobody thought that it would. We're just gonna kind
of at the same notes. A lot of explosions, a
lot of cheesy lines from John McClain, the villains from
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some Eastern Bloc country, and it just takes place in
an airport. So yeah, I mean, if you're a fan
of those kind of superficial entertainment movies. It hits the
same notes and you'll be satisfied walking out of it.
But it's just downright cheesy, and you know, the stunts
are just ridiculous things that he can do in that
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movie no human could possibly do. But that's kind of
what Diehard movies are about.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Sure, But again, isn't isn't the first one? Isn't it
just a mirror the first one?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It is? I think intentionally speaking, they created basically the
same movie, but this one's at an airport.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yes, yes, prophet, do you have you ever? But what's
interesting is cheesy, No, not cheesy. It's very easy radio
to do the is Diehard a holiday movie? But I
just I just find it really interesting that no one
even talks about Diehard Too, which is also a holiday
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movie or a holiday season time, and I believe was
released around the holidays.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I prefer to go to Batman Returns the second Michael
Keaton Batman. You've got Christopher Walker at Walkin as a
evil department store villain.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
That's Christmas as well. Danny DeVito, It's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Danny DeVito plays the Penguin Yes, as.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
The Penguin Yes, and Michelle Pfeifer's Contain No.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Christopher Nolan's Batman's were so much better.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I I just like the style of the of the
of the Burton Batman's because it's it's Burton, It's it's
it's doing schlock.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
It's doing this weird noir gothic style.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It's not over the top like Nightmare before Christmas, but
it's God, there's just something to it. And like that
was the batman I first got to see was Michael Keaton,
So it just holds special to me. I understand people
love the Nolan ones, but those Keaton Batmans are good.
And this is a Christmas movie. It's it's all around Christmas.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, So Jay Stu, what is your Do you have
a routine?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You talking about Christmas movies? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, not Christmas movies, just around Christmas with the routine,
like things you always do, things you've always done, or
things you always want to do. Like now, it's kind
of cool now that we're adults and you know that
you have your kids, you don't have your kids or whatever,
But do you have a routine?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean I think you just hit on it, that
last part you being a single dad. I've been a
single dad for a long time, and it's always based
on where he's at and you know which parent does
what and all that stuff. So I wouldn't say there's
a consistent routine. But movie wise, I watched Goonies on
Saturday night. Wow, that movie has not aged well. Goon
(25:44):
I'm sorry, not Goonies. Gremlin's the same Oh my.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Gosh, you're killing I was just like, I think still works.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, same creator, same year. I want to say, uh,
and and Feldman's and both of them, I want to say,
Corey Feldman, Oh my god. Gremlins is not all. I
used to love that movie in the mid eighties and
now it's just ridiculous, like over the top ridiculous, and
it made a ton of money back then.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
It hasn't age well at all, no.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Because I think what made it cool the first time
were all those little little animals, you know, that are
so like technologically you know in you know, thirty forty
years behind that it's just not interesting anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
You know. My kids never liked never liked et IF
when I throw on et like, man, this is a
great movie, Like Dad that's so fake, that's so bad,
that's awful, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Really, but that it's time. When you saw it for
the first time, it blew you away the technology.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah yeah, I mean I got like emotional when Et
when we thought Et was going to die. By the way,
spoiler alert, he doesn't die, right, Just just so people
know who haven't watched ET, if you're going to watch it,
I would say, when I go back and watch eighties movies,
the language is so bad, and you're like, everybody wants
to know why our language is so bad as an adults,
(27:13):
like this is what we watched these kids, this is
totally normal. It's like way more tame now. So yeah,
My my routine used to be, you know, we do
the presence whatever when we were together, and then I
would go and I would when I was when we
were done, I would go and throw on throw on
die Hard and uh, I don't. It's just it was
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like always kind of my thing. And there are so
many good, sort of sappy Christmas movies. What's the one,
what's the one with Hugh Grant? Oh man, Hugh Grant.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Are you talking about my favorite Christmas movie of all time? Love?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Oh yeah, I love that screen.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
G's what's the matter controversial? What's controversial about it?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, because it's if you watch it, there's a lot
of like depressing scenes. It's real sexual, so people are real.
It's a Christmas movie, but.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's a real movie.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Compared though, to the real great Christmas movies out there though, yes, compared.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
To that are like complete fantasies that have nothing to
do with reality.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Give me one, Give me one. I was like, what
are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Bad Santa? Home alone? Watch story?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I watched bad I watch Bad Santa with which one
I can think? With my with my daughter Grace, And
she was like, this is terrible.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I cannot stand Christmas Story. What I cannot toll boy, Doug,
you think you know your co workers?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
You know what I mean? Genuinely cannot stand me.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Can't stand it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
That's just it's not an experience I can relate to
at all, any of it.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Oh my god, I don't know if this is recoverable
for me. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, I'm listening. There's lots of takes out there, there's
lots of bad ones as well. That that's one, But
this is I'm told, I'm told I think my therapyst
Back when I was in therapy, my therapist told me, like, listen,
you gotta you gotta accept and I hear you. I
understand those of your feelings, no matter how wrong I
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think they are. I do hear you.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
So good job there, Doug.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Thank you, good, thank you. But that's a terrible take, Chris,
that's really you should go in the shame box. Go
in the shame box. But wait, so Ilo, you really
don't like love.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Actually, I don't think that's the I don't think that's
the headline here. The headline is that he doesn't like
a Christmas story. Now you're deflecting.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, you're deflecting. You're you're deflecting from something.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
That terrible movie. I'm saying it's a good movie. But
in the context of Christmas movies.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I think it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
It is it is. I mean, what part of it?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Listen, if you're if you're gonna pick apart love actually,
which you're allowed to do, you gotta come a little substance.
What part don't you like?
Speaker 5 (29:53):
It just wasn't. I'm just in comparison, in comparison to
the Great Christmas Story Home Alone, it's a wonderful life,
die Hard.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
What part of the movie do you not like or
does not or.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Just melo dramatic for yourself, it's just the rest of
the Christmas the aforementioned Christmas movies are so good.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I think I think you're you're you're talking about movies
that are like light and lighthearted and fun in a
lot of ways, and you just don't want the seriousness
of Love.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Actually, perhaps perhaps.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, because you haven't actually said any negatives about the
movie other than it's just not you don't like it
as much as you like the other one.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Fair point, fair point. Sorry, sorry to Billy mack.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
So, just to recap here. If you're a listener right
now and you're like, I want to watch Christmas movie
over the next couple of days. I haven't seen Love. Actually,
do not watch it with kids. There's nudity, there's like
it's an R rated movie, and that's what I like
about it because I'm an adult. I'm an adult and
I like adult movies. And the cast is amazing, of
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the performances are amazing, and the soundtrack is like taking
you back to two thousand and two, like all the
great songs that you love from that era are in
this movie.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
You'll love it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
So I very much recommend.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Emma Thompson, Hugh Grant, Colin Firth, Liam Neeson.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Rowan Atkinson. I must say, Rowan Atkinson, mister Bean.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Guy, Alan Rickman, Laura Lenny.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's a who's who of British stalwarts.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
You know, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Plus Rick from Walking Dead If you're.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Billy, Bob Thorton actually is in that movie, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh no, he is much younger Rick from the Walking Dead. Yeah,
he's the guy that does the sign in the iconic scene,
the sign to the.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Cirl heah sign of a great actor. Though watching The
Walking Dead you could never tell that that guy was British.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Oh so, so like the sign? Do you know the
sign he's talking about?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
There? Ilo, No, I don't understand in this so much so.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Kira Knightley is married to what's the guy's name in
the movie, Peter? Okay? And Peter's best friend.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is who is Rick from Walking Dead?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Is Rick from Walking Dead? Right? What's his real name?
Is it? Andrew Lincoln? I think it is his real.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Name, Andrew Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Okay, And so he comes over on Christmas, but his
buddy is his best friend is. He was the best
man in their wedding, and he has a crush on
her right, and he's like it's just eating him alive
that he's in love with his best friend's wife. And
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so he knocks on the door. She opens the door,
and he has a series of signs that please don't
say anything, you know, this is a surprise, it's a secret,
blah blah blah, and basically that I love you. It's
unlike you don't have you can you can be as
macho a dude as you want. Like that's a well,
it's it's it does violate bro code, but it's it's
(33:12):
unbelievably romantic and I kind of feel like masculine in
the same way. I don't know. Chase two is that
is accurately abscribing.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
To fully endorse the movie. No matter what you're saying
about it, sure a masculine, effeminate whatever, it's a great movie.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
No, it's just one of those things where like you're
sitting there, that's I think that's the signature part of
the movie. There's some other part sceneeah, no iconic scene.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
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Speaker 1 (33:50):
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Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah, Christmas Donkey.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Yeah, this is my favorite Christmas song.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
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I I Isaac Longcross. What do you got?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
All right?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Doug dueling Top stories here in this edition of the Press.
The Green Bay Packers activating tight end Luke Musgrave off
injured reserve for tonight's game against the New Orleans Saints.
Musgrave has been out since week three due to ankle surgery,
and simultaneously lambeau Field embracing itself for Doug and his
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son in the house in person tonight in the snow.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, we get snow flours, but I think they'll be
letting up by game time. Unfortunately we wont that snow
globe game. Uh pack big favorite. But it looks like
this the snow is gonna miss just to the south
if I'm looking correctly at the at the internet. What
was the goat?
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Well, no, and we need to flush this out a
little bit. What are your plans to give your son
the true lambeau Field experience besides the game? I mean
brought worst tailgating?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, well, we're gonna do a little tailgating. Our friends
Scott and Kelly Perry, they're gonna there were their guests tonight,
so we're meeting up with them games at seven twenty
Local Kicks. We're gonna meet it like five five fifteen,
and I think we'll walk through some of the tailgates,
but we'll probably do most of it. There's a couple
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they have the atrium is where is where the draft
is going to be this year, and they have all
kinds of stuff indoors as well, So we'll probably do
a lot of our tailgating kind of inside the actual stadium.
They have a terrace up top in one of the
end zones. We're gonna go there. We're just going to
show them all different parts of lambeau Field. So that's
the plan.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Oh, it sounds like a sounds like a night. Well,
looking forward to hearing about it on the show tomorrow. Elsewhere,
the Los Angeles Chargers earlier this afternoon designated their leading
rusher JK. Dobbins to return from injured reserve. Dobbins has
missed the last four games due to a knee injury.
He's averaging nearly five yards per carry this season and
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has scored eight rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, this is a weird one for the Chargers. Usually,
as Charger fans will tell you me and Jay stew
that you have guys that are out and they're like, ah,
they come back and we're not going anywhere anyway. And
then they come back maybe maybe they don't try to
get a bonus. This one's huge for the Chargers as
a run game has suffered dramatically since he's been out.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
And our final item on this edition of the press
that also occurred just a short time ago. The Pittsburgh
Steelers announced that their receiver George Pickens was a full
participant in prior just today, and he had missed the
last three games because of a hamstring injury, and of
course The Steelers will be hosting the Kansas City Chiefs
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on Wednesday, two days from now, on Christmas Day. Pickens,
they're leading receiver on the season, both in terms of
receptions with fifty five and yards with eight hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, I mean he's big time. He didn't play yesterday
and that's such a dramatic change in the Steelers. But
they also got to be able to tackle somebody. That's
the press. Well, that's it for the Doug Gotleb Show.
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taking my son to his first Packers game tonight, Packers Saints.
(00:43):
It's not currently snowing, but it's supposed to snowmore tonight,
so hopefully we have a little snow globe game. We
got tickets where you can go indoors if it gets
a little cold. But well, he's got we're all, we're
all ready to go. It's not that cold tonight in
Green Bay. Not that cold, Jay Stu, Not that cold
(01:04):
is just you know, is twenty seven degrees. Twenty seven degrees.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
But that's funny because I was just telling my dad,
who lives in upstate New York, I think there are
two degrees. I said, do you know what, I'm a
little annoyed that we're going to have a little weather
in southern California tomorrow. It might sprinkle and it's going
to be sixty.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Three sixty three degrees and it might sprinkle. Yeah. What's crazy, though,
is when you live in southern California and it gets
below sixty You're like, this is the coldest place on
earth because of what you're used to, Whereas now I've
been here for you know, six and a half months
or so, you know, mid twenties, Like, ah, that's not
that bad. It gets to the single digits and feels
(01:46):
like negative, Yeah, that's coold, not a human alive. It's like, oh,
this is awesome. We do this every Monday. It's our
way of venting, our way of remembering, our way of
feeling the weekend. We call it love and hate.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
God? I love you?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
These player haters I little love, little hate. Let's uh,
what we love from the weekend, what we hate from
the weekend? Chris prefet I'll start with you.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well, right to me, Okay, I did I actually enjoyed, uh,
Notre Dame's playoff. I think this has been kind of
an interesting year for Notre Dame. And it's always like
you watch over the Dame in playoffs and you just
kind of hold your breath, right, And I feel like
Indiana was kind of even though they performed poorly, it
was still a really good offense versus defense matchup. I
(02:45):
I thought coming into it, they're gonna have to go
into Georgia without.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
There's a really good offense.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, Notre Dame's got a really good defense. I I've
been scouting with a really good offense.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Indiana.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
They didn't have it in that game, but they've they're
not They've put up tons of points another game.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Games like I'll.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Hold by this either way, Notre Dame. I know a
lot of people Indiana was the trendy pick in the upset,
but like Notre Dame at home has been great and
there's a lot of good NFL prospects on there. It's
a little bit of a tinge because now they I
think Riley Mills we just heard in the update they're
not going to have them for the Georgia game, so
that's tough. I also really like Jaden Daniels from this weekend.
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That was an impressive final drive from that young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, okay, Jay Stu, what's you left on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Doug? I really like it when my instincts are correct.
In other words, I've been doing this for a long time,
and we do sports content for a living, and you
just want things to happen to just confirm that you're
still kind of you still have it. It's still got
my fastball, Doug, and I've got receipts to prove it,
because you know, we do in the bonus podcast after
(03:59):
the show, and we've done this radio show now for
three and a half years together. When Tom Brady got
a ten year, three hundred and seventy five million dollar
deal from Fox, almost everybody, it's seemingly unanimously he was like, Oh,
he's going to be great at it, great signing. He's
gonna be great because he's the greatest that's ever done it.
I mean, how could you ever question whether or not
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he'll be great at it. And I remember at the
time thinking, how do you know? And I said it
out loud, how do we know? Because I got a
first row. I love witness first hand Magic Johnson for
my Lakers in the eighties, the greatest ever do it.
One of the most intuitive players, smart players, just a
(04:40):
real leader, and he has been an absolute failure every
time he's gotten a broadcast gick and I fear Tom
Brady has gone more Magic Johnson than Troy Aikman. But
I do like the fact that my instincts are kind
of were a correct on this one.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, let's get to.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I take great offense that j Stu considers the Magic
Hour of failure.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh Man was Sheila. It was funny because Sheila E
was her band leader, and every time Magic would be like,
here's my band leader, Sheila E. Her band would play
O Sheila, but Sheila didn't do oh Sheila debarged at
(05:32):
oh Sheila. So I always thought that was weird contradiction.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
You seem unusually knowledgeable about the Magic Hour. I mean,
I mean, let me tell you, Johnny Cock, I almost said,
Johnny Cochran, Johnny Carson, Johnny Carson was shaking in his boots.
Of course, it was right around the time he retired. Anyway,
I don't remember the timing there, but the Magic Hour.
(05:59):
If that had been a lot to go, more than
eleven episodes would have gone down as the greatest late
night talk show host. Forget Carson, forget Letterman. I'm just saying,
all right, anyway, I'm gonna start with my my worst.
It was the college football playoff. I hated it.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
None, hold on a second, we need to explain the
rules to Isaac Duck.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Oh okay, so we're all.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Gonna do it, and then we're gonna reset and do
what we hate.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, okay the first time of the show.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Ye, I'm sorry. All right, So I've got it backwards.
I'm gonna I'm gonna say what I loved, and then.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It's called not hating and love.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
You know me, I I lead with hate and then
come around to love. So here's what I loved. I
was incredibly, extraordinarily amused by the complaining over the college
football playoff and how so many people just took it
way too seriously, and they took themselves too seriously, and
(07:00):
it got personal, and it got all over social media.
And people are threatening each other all over the college
football platform when we are less than a generation removed
from one year in the BCS where we had the
Pete Carroll Matt Leinert USC Trojans getting robbed of playing
in the National Championship Game between Instead it was Oklahoma
(07:23):
and LSU, and you had a big tech ceo offering
the NCAA gazillions of dollars to have USC play LSU
in a standalone game. He was the CEO of Gateway Computers.
That's how long it was ago. Gateway. Yeah, so it
was a complaint between two and three. And now everybody
has what they want and they still find a way
(07:44):
to complain about it, which I found endlessly amusing. Just
keep on popping the popcorn. I'm here for it. If
I coit in one more quick, love, real quick. I
think we're calling it stumble Bum or stumble Rooski from
the Lions game. Just absolutely gem of a play. I
haven't gotten in any of my Lions here, but that
(08:07):
was that was hilarious. I love the play. I had
no problem with them running it against the Bears. I
have nothing but contempt for that fan base, so I
loved it. Loved the stuffy that.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Do you see that. Many people think it was a
copy of an actual fumble that happened with the Packers
against the Bears.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Well, I think they it was partly that it was
partly you remember against the Packers, the Lions, like Jared
Goff kind of stumbled a bit handing off the ball
to David Montgomery on fourth down. I felt like that
was part of the intention as well. And I know
Richard told me. You know, the Packers used to I mean,
the Patriots used to practice like this Danny woodhead play
where they'd snapped to him, but then Tom Brady would
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act like the snap had gone over his head and
turned around and start waving his arms. So tricker ration
wins the day.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah. I don't know why you needed to use to
beat the Bears, but yes, Okay, something I loved. I
love the new Kirkirk Street. Herbie calling out the fringes
of people that are on X, Herbie calling out first take,
Herbie getting swag. Herbie knows this thing like the back
of his head. Herbie even calling out the Ohio State
coaches because none of them called him to congratulate his
(09:18):
son on signing at Michigan. I don't know what's gotten
into Herbie, but I love it. I love it. He's
been doing this for too long, has too much respect
for everybody to not just call it like he sees it.
And I get that they were tame on selection day
about it, but how he really feels has come out
how everybody feels, and the sport has come out that
(09:39):
these brackets certain.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
What's your theory, Doug? Is it because he might have
like fu money with the Amazon deal and he's got
a lot of choices and he can say whatever, and
he's like in that unfireable range.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I think so, I think so.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think it's just like the Ohio State people. This
has been going on for years, people calling him a
fake Buckeye.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But again he's even point out those are the fringe people.
Those aren't real people. They don't really matter, they don't
really matter. What's gotten into him? I think it's you
see that now McAfee is on the set. I think
that's been good for him because McAfee's has crazy stuff
and he's like, yeah, I wait, I can say what
I really think? Yeah, you actually get paid for that?
(10:23):
Like all right, I think I'm sure it's been a
little bit of McAfee, a little bit of Saban's been
good for him because Saban says whatever the hell he wants.
You know, he's just surrounded by people who are starting
to just call it like they see it, and everybody's like, yeah,
I know way more that I'm letting on. I'm gonna
gonna let it out. And then yeah, you got two
great jobs. He had tons of money. I'm sure he's
(10:46):
in a weird space. His dog died, you know, all
the things. So the new Herbie, that's what I love.
Let's get to what we hated from the weekend. Okay, now, Isaac,
now you can tell us what you didn't like.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Are you sure now right? Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Now?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Well I kind of gave it away earlier. But just
across the board, it started great because SMU had a
good opening drive against Penn State. Well, at least the
Saturday games did. SMU had a great opening drive on
against Penn State. They went forward on fourth down, they
had a great play call, but they missed the pass.
(11:30):
I'm wondering if that's a touchdown, maybe that game maybe
goes differently. But yeah, across the board, man, they were
all awesome. Atmospheres, awesome hype, but the games just not
didn't live up to it. I think you'll see that
start to change as this twelve team college football playoff
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goes on in future years. At least I hope that's
what I hated.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Jay stew you're a great hater.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
What he if we can maybe lower the distortion here.
I'm actually being serious. I hated that we lost Ricky
Henderson Saturday. I want to say Saturday morning, I woke
up to a like an Instagram post from Dave Winfield
that had said that my teammate Ricky Henderson has passed away,
and then I guess all the you know, newsmakers and
(12:21):
everything went out of their way to confirm it a
couple hours later. I don't know it was something about
that news that hit me hard. I think maybe because
I literally was alive and I watched him his entire
career and I enjoyed him thoroughly. Maybe because Ricky Henderson
was like a superhero on a baseball field and we
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lost him way too soon. Like if anybody was going
to be fit and healthy, and this just goes to
show you that, I guess if you are born with
co morbidities or what have you, that everything's a struggle.
But it really is sad to me. And Ricky represented
much more than a stolen based title. The runs title.
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You know, he won a couple of rings with multiple teams.
But his personality. Everyone loved Ricky Henderson. Everyone had a
funny Ricky Henderson's story. He mastered the art of calling
himself by the third person. He was just a true
like gift from the game of baseball, you know, personality wise,
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and an amazing player. Rip Ricky Henderson. Really sad day.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know what's interesting is, as you know, Jase do,
I host the Harold and Carroll Pump Foundation dinner every
year over at the Beverly Hilton, and one of the
people they honored this year was Ricky Henderson, and I
got to spend some time with him backstage. And first
of all, Ricky was tiny, like just an incredible athlete,
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but I don't know, five.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Eight built like a brick house though.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Absolutely and still even I mean, and I didn't know
he's sixty five, and I had no idea he had
any health issues that he passed away, But he was
so unbelievably gracious, gracious, and you know, the reputation when
you're a third person and talking about Ricky, b Ricky
and all those things, you'd think, but he was just
(14:19):
because he didn't He clearly wasn't comfortable. I remember he
was standing up there speaking at the podium when he
received this award, and his left foot kept kind of
going up in the air, right, And you only do
that if you're nervous or you're uncomfortable. And yet, you know,
here's a thing that was just honoring him, and Bob
Costas actually introduced him. A one hundred and thirty stolen bases
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is disgusting. How about if I made this statement he
was better at his one great thing in baseball than
anybody has ever been dead good at. Like, there's no
one who is that much better at hitting home runs
than everybody else. There's nobody who's that much better getting
on base to anybody else. There's nobody is that much
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better at striking up but everybody out than anybody else,
more so than Ricky Henderson was as still a stealing basis.
Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's fair? And to go along with that, he had
I think the most loot off home runs of anybody ever.
I think he still has that record, even though the
modern day analytics baseball lineup has your power hitter at
the top of the order. So I'm sure that record
will fall. But he was really kind of way ahead
of his time. He was a powerful guy at the
top of the order. Most guys just batter their fastest
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guys in the top of the order. And he was
a showboat and he got away with it in an
era where if you were a showboat, the next guy
got a ball in the ear. For some reason, it
was forgivable when Ricky Henderson would pimp a home run
and Cadillac around the bases, and people loved Ricky so much.
They're like, Okay, no one else could do it, but
(15:49):
that guy got Ricky.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But Ricky what I hate from the weekend? I got
to tell you I hated those college football games, Like
we'd waited so long for it, and this is what
we got. This is what we got really and the NFL,
you know, it wasn't like the NFL product was so
(16:11):
great that you want to watch it, and you're like,
I can't watch these college it's non competitive. Finally got
a playoff and got non competitive games. Couldn't stand it.
That's love and hate. We can't Oh okay, I'm sorry, Prevet,
my bad.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
No, just I think dovetailing off of that my one
of my just two quick hates real quick. I'm gonna
direct it at Tennessee most of all, mostly because I
had to deal with the SEC hanks for most of
the day talking about you know, more SEC teams in
which like, okay, maybe that's true on a paper, but
also like you're being incredibly annoying about it NonStop when
your bylining constantly says SEC network. But more than that,
(16:48):
you just gave so much ammunition to everyone from big
ten countries like, oh, just wait till these Southern teams
comes out and play in the cold. Tennessee looked cold,
Tennessee looked damn cold in Columbus and they played like it.
They played soft. They were not able to handle that
element at all. So like, congratulations, congratulations, everyone of Columbus
laughed as you were like shaking in the wind there.
(17:10):
And then since Dan isn't here, I do have to
give a quick hate to man. I just don't see
it with the Seattle Seahawks. I've given them so many
chances over this year. I know people love Geno Smith
for whatever reason, but I feel like that was the
door slamming shot on the Seattle Seahawks yesterday against the
Minnesota Vikings. I just I don't know what this team
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does well at all.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
We have Dan online one. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
No, they're not great.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, and that's love and hate.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's love and hate.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
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Speaker 1 (17:57):
It's The Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to you
from thee diirec dot com studios. I saw this note
I want to share with you. You guys know I've been
on team Donald since before he was drafted. I know
Cowherd's claiming to be like the only guy or the guy.
He actually sold his Donald stock a while back and
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then tried to buy it back when it was no
longer a penny stock. But nonetheless, if he wants to
be captain of the Donald train, that's fine. Just know
that I have at least one train car on that train.
We saw this note. It was really good. No quarterback
has ever switched the team and won fourteen games in
their debut season with a new franchise. Donald has two
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opportunities left to become the first. On Sunday in Seattle,
Donald recorded a one twelve point three pass rating, marked
his twelfth game of the season with the pass rating
have at least one hundred. If Donald gets one more
the next two weeks, he'll join Aaron Rodgers and Pat
Mahomes is the only two quarterbacks ever to have thirteen
games with a one hundred plus rating in a single season.
Should be pointed out, we're in the first couple of
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years of having that additional seventeenth regular season game, so
it gives him an additional opportunity. Nonetheless, unbelievable year from
Sam Donald. Here's Kevin O'Connell talking about the play of
Sam Donald.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Sam's had some huge plays this year, considering the circumstances
and and kind of you know how that play kind
of came to life. For him to move up and
throw the ball really on the move there with that
kind of accuracy and to know where Justin was going
to be in the.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Moment was a remarkable play.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
You know, doesn't get better than that, and you know,
I thought, as I told the team, you know, his
twelfth time being over one hundred rating, which is a
very very significant number in our offense in this system.
What has become Sam's offense making some of the plays
and throws he did.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Here there's
Sam Darnold on Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Felt like I just needed to give him a shot,
you know, put it on his back hip and let
him do the rest. So and then, yeah, obviously, you
know my teammates being pumped up about it, wouldn't wouldn't
expect anything less. And you know I was just telling him, like,
you know, we got to get stop here.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
You know, it's not over. So sure enough we did that.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Super proud of theo Jackson man, the way that he
was able to play today and step in when we
need the most.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's a pretty cool story. I don't think anybody would
dispute that, right and now the question is for the Vikings, like,
are you okay saying, hey, we have a first round pick,
we like him. We could have him sit there and
be a backup just in case, or we could trade him.
You know, I don't see I don't see anything wrong
(20:49):
with keeping him, but I think you definitely have to
pay Sam Darnald and keep him, you know, I just
do uh. The marriage works between quarterback and coach, between players,
and you know, so much of this is about belief.
You know, you have to have your own personal self confidence,
but then everybody has to believe in you. And I
(21:10):
just don't see how it works with J J. McCarthy.
The second something goes wrong next year, if they were
to move on from Donald and let them get a
big paycheck elsewhere, you'll get questioned about it. It's just
too hard. It's too hard to overcome that, I think personally.
So yeah, I just it's very gonna be very, very interesting.
(21:33):
They're very interesting to see what happens with the Vikings.
If it's me I resigned Sam Donald, I don't go
top of the market, but you just go, hey, dude,
you made a lot of the money in this league.
You can make a lot of money elsewhere. It works here.
Try and stay in the thirties and keep them both
all right. It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Jase
(21:58):
Dot I do have a question for Yeah, where are
you on Diehard too? Okay, everybody talks about die Hard. Yeah,
and when my kids were lost to tell my son heyes,
you know he he was like, you know, what did
you do when we were asleep on Christmas Eve? I
was like, Wow, get the stockings, get everything ready for
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the big guy. And then I'd always watched Diehard. It
did dawn upon me that I haven't watched Diehard Too
more than like two or three times. I like Diehard Too.
I thought it was a really good sequel, still cheesy
as the first whatever, But where are you on Diehard Too?
It never gets mentioned in either the all the great
Christmas movies, nor does it get mentioned at all, Like
everybody just talks about Diehard as if die Hard Too
(22:42):
and Annix Skywalk never happened.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I think it hits a lot of the same notes
as the first one. In other words, the director and
movie creators were like, the first one works so well,
and nobody thought that it would. We're just gonna kind
of at the same notes. A lot of explosions, a
lot of cheesy lines from John McClain, the villains from
(23:05):
some Eastern Bloc country, and it just takes place in
an airport. So yeah, I mean, if you're a fan
of those kind of superficial entertainment movies. It hits the
same notes and you'll be satisfied walking out of it.
But it's just downright cheesy, and you know, the stunts
are just ridiculous things that he can do in that
(23:27):
movie no human could possibly do. But that's kind of
what Diehard movies are about.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Sure, But again, isn't isn't the first one? Isn't it
just a mirror the first one?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It is? I think intentionally speaking, they created basically the
same movie, but this one's at an airport.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yes, yes, prophet, do you have you ever? But what's
interesting is cheesy, No, not cheesy. It's very easy radio
to do the is Diehard a holiday movie? But I
just I just find it really interesting that no one
even talks about Diehard Too, which is also a holiday
(24:04):
movie or a holiday season time, and I believe was
released around the holidays.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I prefer to go to Batman Returns the second Michael
Keaton Batman. You've got Christopher Walker at Walkin as a
evil department store villain.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
That's Christmas as well. Danny DeVito, It's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Danny DeVito plays the Penguin Yes, as.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
The Penguin Yes, and Michelle Pfeifer's Contain No.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Christopher Nolan's Batman's were so much better.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I I just like the style of the of the
of the Burton Batman's because it's it's Burton, It's it's
it's doing schlock.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
It's doing this weird noir gothic style.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It's not over the top like Nightmare before Christmas, but
it's God, there's just something to it. And like that
was the batman I first got to see was Michael Keaton,
So it just holds special to me. I understand people
love the Nolan ones, but those Keaton Batmans are good.
And this is a Christmas movie. It's it's all around Christmas.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, So Jay Stu, what is your Do you have
a routine?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You talking about Christmas movies? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, not Christmas movies, just around Christmas with the routine,
like things you always do, things you've always done, or
things you always want to do. Like now, it's kind
of cool now that we're adults and you know that
you have your kids, you don't have your kids or whatever,
But do you have a routine?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean I think you just hit on it, that
last part you being a single dad. I've been a
single dad for a long time, and it's always based
on where he's at and you know which parent does
what and all that stuff. So I wouldn't say there's
a consistent routine. But movie wise, I watched Goonies on
Saturday night. Wow, that movie has not aged well. Goon
(25:44):
I'm sorry, not Goonies. Gremlin's the same Oh my.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Gosh, you're killing I was just like, I think still works.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, same creator, same year. I want to say, uh,
and and Feldman's and both of them, I want to say,
Corey Feldman, Oh my god. Gremlins is not all. I
used to love that movie in the mid eighties and
now it's just ridiculous, like over the top ridiculous, and
it made a ton of money back then.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
It hasn't age well at all, no.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Because I think what made it cool the first time
were all those little little animals, you know, that are
so like technologically you know in you know, thirty forty
years behind that it's just not interesting anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
You know. My kids never liked never liked et IF
when I throw on et like, man, this is a
great movie, Like Dad that's so fake, that's so bad,
that's awful, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Really, but that it's time. When you saw it for
the first time, it blew you away the technology.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah yeah, I mean I got like emotional when Et
when we thought Et was going to die. By the way,
spoiler alert, he doesn't die, right, Just just so people
know who haven't watched ET, if you're going to watch it,
I would say, when I go back and watch eighties movies,
the language is so bad, and you're like, everybody wants
to know why our language is so bad as an adults,
(27:13):
like this is what we watched these kids, this is
totally normal. It's like way more tame now. So yeah,
My my routine used to be, you know, we do
the presence whatever when we were together, and then I
would go and I would when I was when we
were done, I would go and throw on throw on
die Hard and uh, I don't. It's just it was
(27:34):
like always kind of my thing. And there are so
many good, sort of sappy Christmas movies. What's the one,
what's the one with Hugh Grant? Oh man, Hugh Grant.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Are you talking about my favorite Christmas movie of all time? Love?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Oh yeah, I love that screen.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
G's what's the matter controversial? What's controversial about it?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, because it's if you watch it, there's a lot
of like depressing scenes. It's real sexual, so people are real.
It's a Christmas movie, but.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's a real movie.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Compared though, to the real great Christmas movies out there though, yes, compared.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
To that are like complete fantasies that have nothing to
do with reality.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Give me one, Give me one. I was like, what
are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Bad Santa? Home alone? Watch story?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I watched bad I watch Bad Santa with which one
I can think? With my with my daughter Grace, And
she was like, this is terrible.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I cannot stand Christmas Story. What I cannot toll boy, Doug,
you think you know your co workers?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
You know what I mean? Genuinely cannot stand me.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Can't stand it.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
That's just it's not an experience I can relate to
at all, any of it.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Oh my god, I don't know if this is recoverable
for me. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, I'm listening. There's lots of takes out there, there's
lots of bad ones as well. That that's one, But
this is I'm told, I'm told I think my therapyst
Back when I was in therapy, my therapist told me, like, listen,
you gotta you gotta accept and I hear you. I
understand those of your feelings, no matter how wrong I
(29:09):
think they are. I do hear you.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
So good job there, Doug.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Thank you, good, thank you. But that's a terrible take, Chris,
that's really you should go in the shame box. Go
in the shame box. But wait, so Ilo, you really
don't like love.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Actually, I don't think that's the I don't think that's
the headline here. The headline is that he doesn't like
a Christmas story. Now you're deflecting.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, you're deflecting. You're you're deflecting from something.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
That terrible movie. I'm saying it's a good movie. But
in the context of Christmas movies.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I think it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
It is it is. I mean, what part of it?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Listen, if you're if you're gonna pick apart love actually,
which you're allowed to do, you gotta come a little substance.
What part don't you like?
Speaker 5 (29:53):
It just wasn't. I'm just in comparison, in comparison to
the Great Christmas Story Home Alone, it's a wonderful life,
die Hard.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
What part of the movie do you not like or
does not or.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Just melo dramatic for yourself, it's just the rest of
the Christmas the aforementioned Christmas movies are so good.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I think I think you're you're you're talking about movies
that are like light and lighthearted and fun in a
lot of ways, and you just don't want the seriousness
of Love.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Actually, perhaps perhaps.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, because you haven't actually said any negatives about the
movie other than it's just not you don't like it
as much as you like the other one.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Fair point, fair point. Sorry, sorry to Billy mack.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
So, just to recap here. If you're a listener right
now and you're like, I want to watch Christmas movie
over the next couple of days. I haven't seen Love. Actually,
do not watch it with kids. There's nudity, there's like
it's an R rated movie, and that's what I like
about it because I'm an adult. I'm an adult and
I like adult movies. And the cast is amazing, of
(31:03):
the performances are amazing, and the soundtrack is like taking
you back to two thousand and two, like all the
great songs that you love from that era are in
this movie.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
You'll love it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
So I very much recommend.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Emma Thompson, Hugh Grant, Colin Firth, Liam Neeson.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Rowan Atkinson. I must say, Rowan Atkinson, mister Bean.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Guy, Alan Rickman, Laura Lenny.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's a who's who of British stalwarts.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
You know, it's so good.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Plus Rick from Walking Dead If you're.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Billy, Bob Thorton actually is in that movie, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh no, he is much younger Rick from the Walking Dead. Yeah,
he's the guy that does the sign in the iconic scene,
the sign to the.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Cirl heah sign of a great actor. Though watching The
Walking Dead you could never tell that that guy was British.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Oh so, so like the sign? Do you know the
sign he's talking about?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
There? Ilo, No, I don't understand in this so much so.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Kira Knightley is married to what's the guy's name in
the movie, Peter? Okay? And Peter's best friend.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is who is Rick from Walking Dead?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Is Rick from Walking Dead? Right? What's his real name?
Is it? Andrew Lincoln? I think it is his real.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Name, Andrew Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Okay, And so he comes over on Christmas, but his
buddy is his best friend is. He was the best
man in their wedding, and he has a crush on
her right, and he's like it's just eating him alive
that he's in love with his best friend's wife. And
(32:47):
so he knocks on the door. She opens the door,
and he has a series of signs that please don't
say anything, you know, this is a surprise, it's a secret,
blah blah blah, and basically that I love you. It's
unlike you don't have you can you can be as
macho a dude as you want. Like that's a well,
it's it's it does violate bro code, but it's it's
(33:12):
unbelievably romantic and I kind of feel like masculine in
the same way. I don't know. Chase two is that
is accurately abscribing.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
To fully endorse the movie. No matter what you're saying
about it, sure a masculine, effeminate whatever, it's a great movie.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
No, it's just one of those things where like you're
sitting there, that's I think that's the signature part of
the movie. There's some other part sceneeah, no iconic scene.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Start Fox Sports Radio Prevent. I believe you filled the
sin on the Dominic the Donkey last year.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah, Christmas Donkey.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Yeah, this is my favorite Christmas song.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
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(34:25):
I I Isaac Longcross. What do you got?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
All right?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Doug dueling Top stories here in this edition of the Press.
The Green Bay Packers activating tight end Luke Musgrave off
injured reserve for tonight's game against the New Orleans Saints.
Musgrave has been out since week three due to ankle surgery,
and simultaneously lambeau Field embracing itself for Doug and his
(34:48):
son in the house in person tonight in the snow.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Yeah, we get snow flours, but I think they'll be
letting up by game time. Unfortunately we wont that snow
globe game. Uh pack big favorite. But it looks like
this the snow is gonna miss just to the south
if I'm looking correctly at the at the internet. What
was the goat?
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Well, no, and we need to flush this out a
little bit. What are your plans to give your son
the true lambeau Field experience besides the game? I mean
brought worst tailgating?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, well, we're gonna do a little tailgating. Our friends
Scott and Kelly Perry, they're gonna there were their guests tonight,
so we're meeting up with them games at seven twenty
Local Kicks. We're gonna meet it like five five fifteen,
and I think we'll walk through some of the tailgates,
but we'll probably do most of it. There's a couple
(35:44):
they have the atrium is where is where the draft
is going to be this year, and they have all
kinds of stuff indoors as well, So we'll probably do
a lot of our tailgating kind of inside the actual stadium.
They have a terrace up top in one of the
end zones. We're gonna go there. We're just going to
show them all different parts of lambeau Field. So that's
the plan.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Oh, it sounds like a sounds like a night. Well,
looking forward to hearing about it on the show tomorrow. Elsewhere,
the Los Angeles Chargers earlier this afternoon designated their leading
rusher JK. Dobbins to return from injured reserve. Dobbins has
missed the last four games due to a knee injury.
He's averaging nearly five yards per carry this season and
(36:25):
has scored eight rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, this is a weird one for the Chargers. Usually,
as Charger fans will tell you me and Jay stew
that you have guys that are out and they're like, ah,
they come back and we're not going anywhere anyway. And
then they come back maybe maybe they don't try to
get a bonus. This one's huge for the Chargers as
a run game has suffered dramatically since he's been out.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
And our final item on this edition of the press
that also occurred just a short time ago. The Pittsburgh
Steelers announced that their receiver George Pickens was a full
participant in prior just today, and he had missed the
last three games because of a hamstring injury, and of
course The Steelers will be hosting the Kansas City Chiefs
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on Wednesday, two days from now, on Christmas Day. Pickens,
they're leading receiver on the season, both in terms of
receptions with fifty five and yards with eight hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, I mean he's big time. He didn't play yesterday
and that's such a dramatic change in the Steelers. But
they also got to be able to tackle somebody. That's
the press. Well, that's it for the Doug Gotleb Show.
I am actually off tomorrow, so have a merry Christmas.
Enjoy your family, and enjoy the peace on earth and
goodwill toward men. More than anything, I really appreciate you. Listen.
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