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June 9, 2025 • 39 mins

Doug and the crew share what they loved most from the weekend and what they hated most from the weekend in this edition of "Love and Hate". Doug and the crew address Mardy Fish's assertion that tennis is the most difficult sport in the world. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
What do you love? What do you hate?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
It was a long weekend and Buyer's got You know,
he wasn't with us most of the last week, so
I'm sure he's got things that in travel he loved,
in travel he hated. He may double up on this thing.
I don't know. I don't know. Jay stew he went
out to Big Bear last Friday. Maybe he's got stuff
he loved he hated. And Ryan well, he hates my
taste in music, movies and shows. And there's lots of

(00:45):
cavetching there. Let's start on the positive though, boys. Something
you love from the weekend. I'll start with Dan Byer Doug.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yesterday was a huge turning points in the world of
men's tennis. See but Ton was pasted from the Federer,
Nadal Djokovic era onto what is now the Ciner Alcarez
era in tennis, five and a half hours of magnificent
tennis at Roland Garros, with ultimately Carlos Alcarez becoming the

(01:16):
now back to back champion of the French Open, needing
five and a half hours to complete a comeback that
saw him break three championship points at one point in
the match from center. He was down forty love in
the fourth set and was able to bounce back and

(01:38):
win the French Open title in magnificent fashion. Just a classic,
epic match. Alcarez in Ciner just put on a show
yesterday and it was great and I know the East
Coast people probably started watching it in the morning and
it went into the afternoon. It lasted during my entire

(01:58):
show that I do with Mikeman. We were only on
for two hours as opposed to the five and a
half that Sinner and Alcaaz were on the court, but
ending up with three tie breaks. Just a classic, classic match,
and I think that it truly does symbolize the baton passing,
the passing of the torch you will, from that era
to this era, because I think that yesterday's match, if

(02:21):
they hadn't been already really put Janick Sinner and Alcaaz
into a class by themselves in this current era.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Okay, can I just want to I want.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
To piggyback on that. My love for the weekend was
that Alcarez one because it gave me a chance to
use my copy copyrighted phrase. Now, I've used this phrase
on this show, and it typically goes on laughed at,
It typically goes yeah, pretty good, not a bad ponnd whatever.
But I put it on Twitter yesterday and it was

(02:55):
so reactive. I got so many compliments. None of the
three here that are doing the show saw it, because
I didn't see you share it or like it. So
I just assume he didn't see it. So Alcarez finishes
his five set win over Center and I put as
my tweet. In other words, Yanick Sinner could not escape

(03:17):
from Alcarez.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I did not see it. I knew it was coming today.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I knew it was going to arrive today, but I
didn't realize that it was delivered a day early and
had been sitting in all of our mailboxes. The amazing
thing about when he was down, when Alcaraz was down,
Love forty was he was down in the set five
to three. Yeah, so he comes back and wins the set.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Then Cinner can.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Serve for the match, which had the French Open a
little more difficult because of the slower surface. It's not
like you're always going to hold serve. But then breaks
him again, ends up going into a tiebreaker and then
he that way. So just amazing, amazing yesterday.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
And the only thing about the escape from Alcarez is
that has been his line since Carlos Akarez won the
French Open last year.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
I know it's probably gonna be here for the next
ten years, fifteen years as well, as long as Carlos
Alcarez continues on.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Are you saying that I'll go to jokes over and
over and over again. That's one of the tools of
my humor that I repeatedly say things.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Mike Harmon had one to the effect of yesterday during
our show that a sinner couldn't be saved on Sunday,
which I thought was and I'm paraphrasing for what Mike said.
I thought that that was really well done.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Okay, Jay Stu, something you love from the weekend.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
I love being able to use my copyrighted my copyrighted
phrase escape from Alcarez after he won yesterday.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay, I guess that I loved. Have you guys ever
heard Daniel Tasha's lying about jet skis?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I told it to you, did you?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
What about you buy er? If you ever heard it?

Speaker 5 (05:08):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
The line goes a little something like this. People say
money can buy you happiness, but money can buy you
jet skis. And have you ever seen anyone on a
jet ski not be happy?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Right? So you guess what I did Saturday?

Speaker 5 (05:27):
You bought a jet ski?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Not one too? Your damn right? I did?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, I live on a lake, right, So it's like,
you know, do you need a boat?

Speaker 6 (05:34):
Like?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I got friends with boats. I don't even friends with
any jet skis. I'm telling you one day out there
like it's the best. Like again, probably a terrible purchase
in some people's mind, right. I don't spend money on
lots of things whatever, But jet ski that you can
wake wake wakeboard behind get several people on got a

(05:56):
sound system on it. Chammed out to uh, I forget
what it's called long something. It's like a like a
little beach out in the middle of the Green Bay
where everybody ties up their boats. Thet a little anchor down,
hung out. You know what, Tash's right. Money can't buy
you happiness, but I can't buy you jets key. And

(06:16):
there ain't never been anybody in a jets key.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's not happy.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
I suppose Hayes love that.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Oh he was animal on it. Uh, Ryan, what do
you got?

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Well?

Speaker 7 (06:25):
I've been enjoying these these NBA playoffs, not because some
of the games have been really, really good, but because
do you notice whenever the NBA tries to make someone
the face of the league, they lose or it just
doesn't work. They try and force all this first is
the face of the league. No, they're not. That's why
I'm rooting for the Pacers. I want I want chaos.

(06:46):
So when they won, game won, I was laughing my
tail off. So that's what makes me happy. That's what
I love.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Okay, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
Don Doom Doom.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
We all start with Jason Stewart, So let's do that again.
Jay Stu, you are a resident hater. Would you hate
for the weekend?

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I think in general, I don't hate like Angel Rees.
I don't hate her. I don't know her, so I
can't say I hate her, but I do hate what
she represents. Case in point, I think Dan mentioned this
last hour. Angel rescored four points, got twelve rebounds in
the lopsided lost of the Fever on Saturday. Now we

(07:29):
don't know how many of those twelve rebounds were me bounds.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, I love I love that it's been called a
me bound. I think that's the funniest thing I've ever
heard that people now call it a me bound.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
It's incredible. It's incredible. And and by the way, whoever
the person is or people are that are dedicated to
that social media site that only does her missus and
then shows like barstools uh, people that are betting on
how many games they need to consecutive games with her
not scoring or first shot. All that stuff is really funny.

(08:03):
But maybe the most funny person on social media right
now is the guy that does fake press conferences. I
think it's the dangerous to AI two. Maybe he's just
one of many. Now, I do understand that there is
this sentiment against celebrating the AI fake press conferences. There's

(08:25):
a sentiment against sharing that if you keep sharing these,
they're going to be more empowered, and it's going to
muddy the waters as far as what we consume, what's real,
what's fake. My point to that is if you don't
have the due diligence to first know that this isn't real,
or second like double check it to make sure it's
not real, then that's on you, that is not on

(08:48):
the creator. So this guy puts together this press conference
of Angel rees. The visual really sells it, so I
want to encourage the listeners to find it. But it's
basically somebody asking Angel Reese a question and the answer
is priceless. Go ahead, run, Do you have any damn shame?

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Angel? Thank you?

Speaker 8 (09:09):
Three dollars is actually a fair price because everyone knows
without Kaitlin Clark, nobody cared about tonight's game. Kitlyn Clark
runs this league, and we still managed to get clapped
up by thirty even without her playing. Thank god she
didn't play, or else we might have lost by fifty.
But I don't sell tickets, I sell victimhood. So the
reason we lost tonight is because of racism. Kaitlyn Clark

(09:30):
mocked me when I traveled, and that's very racist. That's
why we lost tonight.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Oh Man, priceless content. Props to whoever does that. I
love it. I laughed out.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Wild again fake fake, completely, AI.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Don't share it. It's fake.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I just posted a tweet on the heels of what
Jason was saying, and it was amazing. If you look
on ESPN's page, I encourage you to look at my
tweet instead at Dan Byer on Fox. ESPN didn't even
and put her point total in the stat page. You
know what they'll say, like Kelsey Mitchell seventeen points, like
as the leading scorer, it just says Angell Reis twelve rebounds.

(10:11):
This skuy didn't have a player in double figures in
that game. I don't know they didn't want to put
her point total. But I looked and I wait a second,
I'm like, is that just rebounds? And sure enough, they
didn't even bother putting Angel Rees's point total up for
that game.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Hilarious.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I got something I hate it from the weekend. So
Lebron James now doing his podcast with Steve Nash, right,
and we know that Lebron James, even with a new
commercial kind of making fun of himself, he has a
tendency to fib a little, right, like the what's your

(10:46):
favorite quote from the God Bothered?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Too Many? What's your favorite?

Speaker 8 (10:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Was your favorite passage from the Muhammad Ali autobiography?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Oh? Just too many? Right?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
But take a listen to Lebron James talking about his
sons and how he handled them being coached in youth
and AAU basketball.

Speaker 9 (11:09):
I've never got involved with my kids coaches I know
from from from Briannie growing up to where he is
now and Bryce you know, on his way to Tucson, Arizona.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
I've never got involved.

Speaker 9 (11:22):
I've never went to a practice and sat through practice
the whole time and see how my son was being utilized.
I never got on the phone with the coaches. Listen,
he's there, coach my son, coach from however you want to.
And I think you need to hold him accountable. I
hope you hold him more accountable than any other kid here,
you know, and say what the fuck you need to say?

Speaker 1 (11:41):
No, Okay, but here's here's the here's the issue with that.
Here's what I hate about it. Okay, what I hate about.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
It is it's just not true. Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
There's video of Lebron coaching his kid in AAU basketball
and then he had Rondo helping him out. And oh yeah,
by the way, like Bronni's AAU team, who do you
think started it, created it, handpicked the actual coach that
would be Lebron James. And even that doesn't matter because

(12:22):
no matter what your kid did or didn't do in
high school, you got them drafted to the Lakers anyway.
So I mean, it's just like these are it's laughable,
how much of a series of lies it is.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
But like what, why why why? Oh yeah, by the way, Lebron,
like I didn even bring this up.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
And again, I think in terms of good human bad human,
I think we can agree that Lebron James has never
done anything that you go like he's a bad human being.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Okay, Like the.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Whole thing with the Suns, it's very very similar to
a lot of men with their sons, a lot of
foreigner players with their sons, their current players with their sons.
I get it, I do understand, okay, but just don't
lie to us, don't patronize us.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's it doesn't feel good.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, I never pulled anybody's side, no, but you got
into layup lines and were dunking in layup lines with
your kid that doesn't put very much pressure on the
coach to play your kid when you're Lebron and you're
sitting there court side, right, none of it that you hired,
AAU team you created and you're like, yeah, I just

(13:30):
coach my kid, coach them harder than anybody else.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't care. Okay, sure, right, right again? And he
did the pass so aggressive thing with Bryce.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Bryce wasn't gonna play it at at Sierra Canyon, so
he pulled for a summer. He pulled him out of
Sierra Cannon, then he put him at Campbell Hall. Then
I think he was gonna put him either Crespy or
Notre Dame. And then he moved him back to Sierra
Cannon when he got what he wanted. So just stop lying.
Why you're the all time lead has scored in NBA history.

(14:06):
There's a good percentage of people that think you're the
greatest player ever. Hey, you committed no crimes, you're married
to the same woman. There's a million wonderful things about you.
But why are you gonna just lie to us and
act like you're the super dad when it doesn't mean
you're a bad parent, It just means don't just.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Don't bs US. We saw you coach your kid. I've
never I've never been in a practice. Well you haven't
a practice, but you coach team in games. I never
had any.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
You started the team, you hired the coaches. Sorry, I
just fired up about it, all right? What you got there,
Dann Bier? What you hate from the.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Weekend, Doug, What I hate is actually happening today and
will actually last throughout the week. Guys, I got a
huge case of fomo fear of missing out, but it's
actually missing out. Open at Oakmont this week, my favorite
course that is in augusta National. I've been able to

(15:07):
been fortunate enough to attend the last two US opens
at Oakmont in two thousand and seven, twenty sixteen, the
silver Lining, Dug. Maybe you get to watch more golf
when you just watch it on TV, Like, don't go
to a golf tournament to watch golf. However, just seeing
even the social media clips over the weekend and now
that practice rounds are taking place and there's action out

(15:30):
at Oakmont just outside of Pittsburgh, just complete fomo of
not being on the grounds.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Are they are they really cutting the grass with pushmowers
right now?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Because the rough is two things.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yes, but that will also it will grow over the
next three days. It will probably be thicker to that point. Yes,
there were videos a lot of the dropping of the
golf balls in the rough to see on how deep
the rough is. But to me, that's not the story.
The story at Oakmon is the greens and I can
watch over and over balls landing on the green and

(16:07):
just watching them roll off. I was fortunate enough Doug
to play Oakmount the day after the Open in twenty sixteen.
The first hole I putted it off the first green,
I just did not like. I got my medicine right there,
rolled off into the rough. And I absolutely love the place.
It should be a great, great weekend for golf coming up.

(16:28):
But I hate that I'm not there checking it out.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's my hate, all right, Ryan, what do you hate?

Speaker 7 (16:36):
I'm a huge, huge Dodger fan, and what is wrong
with my Dodgers. They spend almost money, their pitchers can't
stay healthy. You would think, well, with a huge payroll
that they have, they would like, you know, win some games.
That's what's ticking me off, and that's what I hate,
because I don't think the Dodgers are gonna win, win it
all this year, and that's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
The thing that really tops my list of things that
I really can't stand about the Dodgers right now is
just how they utilize their pictures. Example, there is something
about how they're utilizing this rotation that over the past
two years they've had a horrible rash of injuries, and
we can't put it off to bad luck anymore. We

(17:19):
have to put it off to how they're being utilized.
And I'm not saying they're overused. I'm saying that they're
being used in a way that's not comfortable. Yamamoto went
on the IL as soon as he came over from Japan.
Last year. Their newest rookie over from Japan went on
the IL two weeks in a start into his Dodger career.
Blake Snell goes on the on the shelf. Tony Goswin

(17:41):
is going to need surgery, I'm sure again on his
arm this past weekend. I don't know what's going on,
but I'm gonna blame the administration. I don't think it's
the coaching staff. I think it's the analytics and how
they're being used.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, I guess my only pushback on that for both
of you guys, is like, what's the control group? Doesn't
this happen in all of baseball?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Right?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Isn't it like they're not good because they don't have
their pictures. The pictures are hurt because it's baseball. Guys
seem to get hurt all the time. Now that's my take. Anyway,
everybody get everything off their chest. Dan, anything else you want,
because you did have some time to ruminate over there.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, No, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm good, okay, And that, my friends, is our version
of eleven eight.

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Speaker 1 (18:47):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So I
want to discuss something I heard when I was watching
the French Open yesterday. We'll do that in a second. First,
so let me get shit. Dan Bayer gets you a
quick update and then we'll discuss Dan.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Doug will start in the NBA No Game three tonight.
We're gonna have to wait till Wednesday. In Indianapolis for
that contest between the Thunder and Pacers.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Cavaliers guard Darius.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Garland, who saw his team get eliminated by Indiana, it's
gonna have toast surgery, need four to five months to recover,
so he missed the start of the twenty twenty five
twenty six campaign.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
That's according to ESPN.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
ESPN also says the Hawks are hiring Pelicans GM Bryce
and Graham to be their senior VP of basketball operations.
Indiana fever at coach Stephanie White said today that they're
going to be cautious when it comes to Caitlin Clark's
return from her strained quad. Clark is not going to
play tomorrow against the Atlanta Dream, the fifth straight game
she's missed because of that quad issue. Falcons quarterback Kirk

(19:45):
Cousins expected to attend the team's mini camp despite wanting
to play elsewhere. That's according to The Athletic. If Cousins
was a no show, head coach him Morris said that
he would be fined for his absence. Packers are releasing
corner Jayi Alexander. The Bengals are letting go of linebacker
jerm Main Pratt tonight on the ice, Game three of
the Stanley Cup Final, Oilers and Panthers eight o'clock Eastern time.

(20:06):
That series is tied up at one apiece and the
Red Sox are calling up top prospect outfielder Roman Anthony Doug.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Back to you, all right, stuck gotleab show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Marty Fish just a he was he
and his brother we were doubles champions, right they were.
He was better in doubles than he was I think
in singles. But obviously currently a tennis analyst. And on
Twitter when watching the I think the finals of the

(20:35):
French Open, which was awesome. I mean it was a
great match, he tweeted this, okay, And can I just
make an aside here, guys. The problem with renaming Twitter
X is you have to say he wrote this or
he xed this or something. The one thing about Twitter

(20:55):
is tweeted became a is that a verb?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
It just worked.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
It all worked, and X sort of doesn't work anyway.
He tweeted, toughest sport in the world. No clock to
run out, no timeouts to call, no subs to come
in for you, no one to sit there and tell
you what to do. This is as good as it gets, guys,
that's the Marty Fish.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
So no clock to run out, that's fair. Baseball doesn't
have a clock, no timeout. Baseball does have timeouts. No
subs to come in for you, that's very true. No
one to sit there and tell you what to do.
There's supposed to be no coaching, although most people believe
their coaches.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Coach from the stands. Sometimes their parents do. This is
as good as it gets, guys. Cliche.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
So do we agree? Do we disagree? Let's throw it
around the room here. I'm gonna give you my opinion
in a second. Jason, you were most bothered by this,
so I'll let you have the floor.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Just to clarify, I was most interested in it. I
saw the tweet, and I said, Marty Fish is creating
sports talk segments on Monday, which is what you love.
I like content creators.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
He throws this out here as if there is no
discussion or arguments. That's that's what I hate about it.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
It's grenade there. Yep.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah. He says it a matter of factly, as if
there is no other side to the argument.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
And I will say this, I suck at this sport,
so maybe I am uniquely qualified to say this. I
think golf mentally is the most difficult sport there is
for all of the reasons he posted, except the goal
is to hit a little ball and fight the mental

(22:46):
aspect of having mishit that little ball five minutes ago,
and what are you going to do about it?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, you are going against the course and against yourself
and golf scoreboard, going against other people.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's fair, buyer. Give me your immediate reaction.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, I thought it was interesting. I love it when
players who have played at the.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Highest level share a love of their sport with the
masses in something about it. Now, Marty Fish has transitioned
not to playing competitive golf, but he is a pretty
darn good uh player of the game of golf. And
I agree with Jason Stewart with this. I still think

(23:30):
that there is something with the opponent that you're facing.
And Doug your point about the course and the ball,
but it's just it's just sitting there and in reality
it is against yourself and that is that's what I
think is makes it the toughest sport. There's also this

(23:53):
this fulfillment.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
You think golf is the toughest sport yeah, yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yes, yes, So so I agree with Jason in that aspect.
I like that Marty Fish said that and gave that insight.
But I would put. I would put golf because I
just think it's it's one of those things. That's why
I think like deal or no deal is so awesome
because it's so simple and it's just but it's not simple.
It doesn't take any knowledge, and the better you do earlier,

(24:21):
the more difficult it's likely going to be later, and
vice versa. There's something that I love about that, and
I just feel like the same. It's there's a little
bit of that with golf where it's, to Jason's point,
you hit a bad shot, and you hit another bad shot,
and you hit another bad shot, and then you come
to eighteen and you smoke a drive and you're like, yes,
I can't wait to play tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
That's that's what I think is amazing.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Ryan, what do you think?

Speaker 7 (24:46):
Well, I'm about the hugest golf expert, but it just
sounds like he's just trying to pound his chest.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
He's hit former tennis player, he's talking about tennis.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Just showere.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Sorry, Now he's a golfer, but former professional tennis PLA.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yeah, I just I just think he's just trying to
start some controversy, that's all.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's just I just think it's kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Are you doing, Michael Jackson? Want to be starting something
exactly something?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
All right, So I'll kind of give you a bunch
of thoughts. First of all, tennis is unbelievably hard. Unbelievably
are the reason that pickleball has become so gigantic so fast.
Is one, it's pretty fun kind of anybody can play it, right,

(25:32):
But the bigger thing is it's like an easier form
of tennis because tennis is so hard. And it's so
hard because yes, you had the opponent and those balls
are whizzing at you. It comes really really fast, right,
and it's just hard. I mean, it takes years upon
years to control your stroke. And then you have the

(25:53):
different surfaces you have, you know, are you outside or
your inside with There's a lot to it and not
and coaching yourself. If you've ever played tennis that I have, right,
you're sitting there muttering at the racket, you're fixing the
strings or whatever. And I think there's a lot like
that in golf. Where it's you against you, there is
the opponent. I think of tennis. I think it's basically

(26:16):
boxing with rackets.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
There's that sort of movement feat matter, everything matters. There's
I think a lot more endurance, a lot more conditioning.
I think a lot more that kind of goes into it.
It's a game kind of like basketball. Start and stop.
You know, you're you're hitting, you know, ground strokes. Then
all of a sudden, the ball is the net boom.
You got to take off and you got to get it.
I don't think there's the need. This is when you go.

(26:39):
It's the hardest sport period. We have to diminish all
these other sports. Like did you guys watch UFC three
sixteen on Saturday night?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Anybody watch?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
I did not?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Negative, Okay, the main event.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
The main event was this little dude with a he's
from the Republic of Georgia, and I mean the guys
probably looks like he's probably like five three five four,
But and Sugar Shawn's out there. You know, he's got
all these tats and he's and he's trying to move away,
and this dude just kept coming. I that one. No
matter what they're coaching you on, Like all of a sudden,

(27:17):
you have another human being trying to choke you out.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I think that's pretty tough, pretty difficult as well.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I think golf is more of a game, a game
of skill, a game of you have to have you
have to have an amount of confidence and calmness all
at the same time. You don't have to have elsewhere.
I do think you have to have that. In tennis,
I do think you have that. I think the opponent
makes it harder. I do think two people in a ring,

(27:48):
two people on a tennis surface, you know, two people
in a boxing I think all of those are difficult.
But I do think there's a world there where you're like, man,
this is an awesome, awesome sport.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't know what the toughest is.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I do think though, that we have a tendency, especially
as Americans, to think toughness and something tough has to
do with physicality.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Ah, right, football top be the toughest, cud you goeta hit.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
The hardest, like yeah, but not everybody in the football
field get gets hit that hard. And there's ways to
you know, and it's not like it used to be.
Whereas I think the endurance of no timeouts, five set match.
You're out there in the heat of the summer, you know,
and you're just you know, especially at Roland Garros for
you're just dusty as hell. Like I think it's a lot.

(28:31):
So my point is, I don't think you have the
need to put it above. We could do the sports hierarchy,
but hockey's unbelievable. I'm watching the I'm watching was that
Friday night was the Stanley Cup. Then that you went
to overtime was great, okay, but remember those guys are
out in the ice for a couple minutes. It doesn't
mean they're not tougher. It's just the endurance is quite

(28:53):
is different. You know, golf, I mean those matches can
imere around, can last you know, five six hours, and
you're sitting there walking And anyone who's ever played any
sort of sport, let atone high level sport, like when
your brain is somewhere else. You can't do it in
golf like I've done it, I'd like, I'm not a
good golfer, but I'm not a terrible golfer. But when

(29:14):
I now, I go out there and I go play
golf of my club, when my brain is somewhere else.
I can't do it, and you're walking eighteen holes, or
if you have to play extras, even more holes, and
your brain is sitting there telling you all these things
that take you away from a club. So I think
golf is really hard. I think baseball is hitting a
baseball guy throwing ninety miles an hour with late movement,

(29:36):
Like are you a kid in me where you fail?
You know, six times in ten you fail and you're.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
A Hall of Famer. So they're all hard.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
But I would actually stand up and say, I think
tennis is as hard as any of them, requires as
much toughness as any of them. And I think of anything,
it's been undersold by most people for a long time.
Then what happens is it's a country club sport. You know,
growing up in southern California, Jay s Dou, you know
this right, it's suburban white kids and Asian kids. That's

(30:10):
the only people that play tennis in California. Those numbers
are diminishing some, but they're all usually well to do families.
But they're out there grueling, hitting balls every day, just
like guys are shooting hoops every day, just like golfers
are out there playing and working their swing every day.
It's not for a lack of effort, lack of work ethic,
lack of toughness in that you have to go and
do it every day.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Here's the crazy thing that I look back on in
my childhood and growing up. My town was about nine
ninety five hundred people in north central Wisconsin, and Staying's
Park had two tennis courts. Atts Park had about I
don't know, four tennis courts. The high school or junior
high at the time had about six tennis courts and
that's where the high school team would compete. Those were

(30:53):
kept up a little. There were tennis courts everywhere to play.
Now they weren't kept up, and maybe that start to
be the decline of it. But now when I go home,
tennis court no longer at Staying's Park, the high school.
It's been moved to another spot. Tennis courts at a
different park. Gone your point about pick a ball now,

(31:16):
but I would even say that it's been maybe ten
to fifteen twenty years since those courts even existed. Sure,
and I think there are so many parks where tennis
courts are just a run down tennis court and it's
too bad. I wanted to know when the boom was
where they're like, we need tennis courts in these parks,
because I was curious to what it was like. But

(31:37):
they weren't used a ton. I remember going to tennis
courts growing up, but it's not like we would have
competitive matches going to play that playing them.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
And I think most people will notice, like, hey, Doug,
you didn't say basketball like I didn't. But basketball, I
think requires an incredible amount of toughness but super hard
sport to play.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
But as you're going on record here you agree with
Marty Fisher, you don't.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I'm going to do the classic Mike Greenberg and say
he's got a point again, like, okay, so I'm gonna
do both. I agree with the general premise that tennis
is an unbelievably tough and grueling sport, and that because
it's a country club sport, people have a tendency to go, well,

(32:24):
it's country cub sport, must be easy. I do not
think it's easy. I think it's grueling, especially at the
highest level. But I also think that there's lots of
other sports. I think soccer, first of all, the most
one of the most physical sports that you ever find
is soccer. People think of soccer guys because they flop,
but I mean they're banging into each other and super physical.

(32:45):
So maybe this is a cop out Jay stew but
I both agree and disagree with him.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
I'll just say this the sorry.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Again, the Jason point of like golf, I just I
feel that to not go against the competitor, like you
truly are competing with yourself, against the course and your
own swing. Yesterday the PGA Tour, the RBC Canadian Open,
they needed five playoff holes to settle who won between

(33:15):
Ryan Fox ended up winning and Sam Burns was the
other one. And it's just the point of Fox had
to hit this amazing shot on eighteen. Otherwise they were
just trading blows like it was just back and forth.
But what separated him was his shot was better, not
that Sam Burns missed a backhand or Sam Burns was

(33:35):
long on a volley, because that would have been sam
Burns's fault. It was Ryan Fox ended up hitting the
shot that was needed. Two guys playing at the top
of their game, and sure Sam Burns could have hit
one in the water and could have ended it. But
there's just something about playing that ball in your swing
basically against yourself that I think is unmatched.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
When they moved to Canadian Open to this time of.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Year, They've had the move it around the schedule for
a bunch of different stuff. Yeah, especially now with the
PGA Championship, and yeah, it used to not be this early.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, September, September. It's a great discussion. It's probably a
really good podcast. We get into it. I think you
guys were under selling how tough tennis is. But again
we're also and I understand you're talking about the respect
for golf. I think there's a lot of sports we
could sit and go like, that's a really hard one.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I just think that it's in the spotlight of how
great yesterday's match was that one five and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Sure, it's a classic. What's the Hyperbolee statement? In an
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Speaker 3 (35:50):
Prompts to a Mark Storm, who tweeted in saying that
those tennis courts were legacies of the sixties and seventies
when tennis was a pretty popular as a recreational sport. Sure,
so sad in the eighties it went away And I
grew up in the eighties and that's why I never
really saw people playing tennis at those courts, yet they
were there. All right, we won't be seeing Caitlin Clark

(36:12):
playing tomorrow night against the Atlanta Dream. The Fever Guard's
going to miss her fifth straight game because of a
quad injury. She had hinted that she's going to be
racking up her ramping up her activity and could possibly
play tomorrow night, but head coach Stephanie White said that
it's not the case. In fact, they're actually going to
be very cautious in Clark's return to action.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean again, there's there's the only people who want
to rush her is ESPN.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Everybody else is like.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Yeah, yeah, CBS, I think they had.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
The game, CBS's game down.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean it's smart and as we
talked about with the win over Chicago, they're actually good.
Now it's not just her, They've they put a good
team around her one that can survive without her.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Falcons have yet the deal quarterback Kirk Cousins, so he
remains on their roster and apparently he's going to be
at the team's mandatory mini camp tomorrow. That was the
message from Diana Russini of The Athletic. The backup to
Michael Pennix Junior will show up to mandatory mini camp
despite staying away most offseason because he wanted to be traded.
Head coach rahiem Moore said that if Cousins didn't show

(37:14):
up tomorrow, he would be fined.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I'm just heous so I don't get fined.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Z apropos in this situation. Packers released corner JayR Alexander today.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
That's obviously making all the news. There was thoughts that
he would come back and maybe a new deal. Obviously,
the whole off season people thought he'd be traded. Now
you're just like, eh, start over. Interesting end to the relationship.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yes, in the forty nine Ers right now have the
shortest odds to land Alexander according to bet Online nine
to two. Then it's the Dolphins at five to one,
Eagles six to one, Rams at thirteen to two. In
the Bills who had trade talks with the Packers about Alexander.
They're listed at eight to one. In other news, in

(38:01):
the NBA, Cavaliers guard Darius Garland's going to miss four
to five months. He need surgery to repair a toe
injury suffered in March.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, his seargeant Holka, his seargeant big toe was in
four to five months for a toe.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah, it's going to miss the start of the of
next season. And Doug Tonight Game three Stanley Cup Final,
Oilers and Panthers eight o'clock Eastern time. We've had overtime
in the first two games. We'll see what we get
tonight with the series tied up at a game apiece.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
I mean so random though, game too right, Like it's yeah,
a one goalie. They pulled the goalie I think like
twelve seconds left or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
They end up scoring was.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Twice crazy, and Marshan's goal to win it was kind
of random as well, so just ended up going right
between that.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
That's my issue with with with hockey is the randomness
of it. You can thoroughly outplay a team and then
lose on some.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Random Yeah, he had a breakaway but didn't have complete control.
But somehow it's still slid in and even the series
up at a game of piece as it goes to
Florida tonight.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
And that's the press.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
They get out there and pressed.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
That was the press.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
All right, kiddos.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Tomorrow we may recap or we may not the Stanley
Cup in the meantime, Thanks for listening, Doug Ott Leap Show.
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