July 7, 2025 • 45 mins
In this installment of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most from the sports weekend was. Doug reacts to something our President said about the Washington Commanders. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through The Press.
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let's get to our recap of the weekend. Something we
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call love and hate?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
God? I love you?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Need these player, hay is.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Love love, love, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate strong words.
We got a strong show. Let's go to our good
friend Jason Stewart. What'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Jace two, I'd love to go west. That's what I
would have loved to do.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, So let's go to Isaac lowankhn I love what'd
you love for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
So the Friday counts fourth July?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Right? Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It was really actually cool memory. I mentioned this on
Jonas's show and he's got me wanted by the cops now.
But like a block away from our house, there's this
long road and people from outside the neighborhood they set
up shop on this long road and they set off
fireworks all all night long on the fourth of July.
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So me and my kids it was like a fireworks parade.
We walked up and down and got to see like
pro level fireworks. My eight year old was shouting fire
in the hall and I have no idea where you
learn that sound.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Was kind of a nice memory.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, and buy your gods.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Free pizza on Friday, by the way too.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, let's go to Big Ryan Smith. Ryan, what do
you got Well?
Speaker 6 (02:26):
I do love the fourth of July. I love the fireworks,
but I hate it when I'm trying to sleep and
the fireworks are going off. I love the fact that
that didn't happen. There weren't a lot of fireworks going off,
so I got peaceful sleep. And that's what I loved
over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Peaceful sleep. Very very nice that you love for the weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
By the way, the three of us all live in
you know, southern California. Here, guys, when you woke up
on Saturday morning, like where I lived, it was all
like smoky and hazy, like all over Southern California was
like that for you on Saturday morning.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Absolutely out in the burbs it was. And the fireworks
were going off the entire weekend. It was a three
day firework exhibit up in the suburbs.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I kind of a diabolical what I liked.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Did you see the video.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
There's some rapper I've never heard of it, blow off
his hand anybody on social media.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
No, I hadn't heard about this was that this weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, it's JPP. That's what I got to four Extra
You guys ever heard of four Extra boy?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
That's a very ironic name. But okay, no, I don't
google him.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Man boy.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well four Extra some rapper and he was holding two
M E. D's in his hand and he's walking around
saying I'm gonna blow and he dropped an N bomb
up right. Then there's a video of him blowing off
four of his fingers. Oh man, I have not seen
said video, but I'm gonna watch it because that's who
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I am and listen. But again, my point is more like,
don't get me wrong, like when fireworks mistakenly go off,
or you know, if a fuse doesn't work, or you know,
if you have all the safety precautions. But I saw
one where somebody gives a Roman candle to like a
two year old who mistakenly goes and runs into the house.
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This one with this dude four Extra like blowing off
his hand when he talked about blowing other people up, Like,
hey dude, sorry, but you did know you were holding
a quarter stick of dynamite in your hand. That's what
happens when you f around and find out you taste too.
Like am I supposed to feel too much sympathy when
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dudes threatened to blow other people up and then they
blow their own hand off. I do not. Sorry.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Even Lamar Jackson weighed in with his sympathies, posting, damn
for extra y'all be said with them fireworks. Then someone
replied to that, don't play with fireworks. Lamar, you're the
best running back we have, and Lamar replied, when I
started hearing about people's hands and faces being blowed off,
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I stopped that bra So even Lamar Jackson advocating for
fireworks safety, just like you.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, love his on hand. Again, It's not because I
don't feel sympathy for somebody blowing out their own hand.
It's the I'm walking around with twom Med. He's talking
about blowing up other people and then I bluffed bone
Han Jase too. What's you left on the weekend?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
What not?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
To of the Astros came to town and I'll tell
you what on Friday night did or herscheizer cause a
stir so. For those that don't know the history, the
Astros cheated their way to a World Serious championship in
twenty seventeen, and the commissioner didn't hold any players accountable,
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no punishment, and when asked why you didn't vacate the
World Series championship from the Astros, the commissioner said, some
mishmouth thing about slippery slopes. I don't know what is
worse than being caught cheating during a World Series in
which you won a championship in I don't know where
the slippery slope exists. But anyways, Dodger fans never forget
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what happened, and they never forgot that the Astros never
received any punishment. So on Friday Night or a Hersheiser,
much to his credit, God bless him, Bulldog on Friday Night,
I think it was Joe Davis. He said this on
the broadcast.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
It hard the deep center field pot has on the
round A turn of watch this one wedge itself in
the bottom of the round and Cam Smith flying into
second anchoring there with another extra base it for the
Astros double homer, double Philip and third against Casparios. I
have a lot of open hold room, but in some
ways they're swinging at these breaking balls like they know
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what it's coming.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
So orl with a great line and that went viral.
And Astros Twitter really hated it. I retweeted hashtag never
forget hashtag Houston Asterisks and got a crapload from the
Houston Astros of when are you guys going to get
over this? It's been eight years? How about this? If
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you guys were properly punished, we would probably be over
it by now. So I blame Manfred and I blame
Astros for having the lack of character to cheat.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Okay, that's what we love.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Let's get to it. We hated over the weekend. Our
resident hater is nonther than Jason Stewart goes last in
love because he loves the least. First, I hate because
he hates the most. Chase two.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
You hate to see the Astros sweep the Dodgers, ever,
but you definitely hated to see the Astros sweep the
Dodgers this past weekend at Dodger Stadium. And then I
will had a really good seat to see the final
game of that sweep, one in which the what one
holdover from the twenty seventeen squad, Jose al Tuv I
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went to boo him and heckle him personally, and he
launched a home run in the ninth inning. I think
was a direct response to my heckling. He was asked
after the game about this heckling from yours truly.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Is that what twenty seven stances for the number of
pitches you saw coming to the twenty seventeen postseason?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Is that what twenty seventh stance for?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Answer me?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
He never answered me, but he did hit a home
run in the ninth inning. The astro swept. When he
was asked afterwards, he said it rattled him for a
little bit, but he gained his composure for his last
at bat.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That was terrible trash talk, too wordy, and nobody's catching
all those words.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Is it because he's English second language or do you
just think he was too wordy? Anyways?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I just thought it was too wordy. That was short
pointed to the point, like like again, I know the
fan got in trouble for it because he yelled at
the wrong du but like your mom is better than
is twenty seven the number of times you knew a
ball was coming to you back in the previous playoffs,
not last year, or the year before or the year
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before that, but back several years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Is that the number dumb.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Should we send Jason to Robin Thicker for some for
a consultation on proper heckling technique?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Is that the old heckler from the Washington.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Capitals Washington Wizards when they were the Bullets.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But yes, sir, yeah, Washington Bullets. That's right. He used
to like read things to Michael Jordan. It was he
was great.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah when the Jordan the rules came out.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, what did I hate from the weekend? Uh, well,
I'm I hate the fact that people and listen, I
know what's going to happen tonight. Okay. I live on
a lake, so it's really cool on Fourth July. You
look around the lake and there's just everywhere you can
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go fireworks. But like, we've hit the point where it's over.
It was a little bit over last night. Now it's
really over. And I understand. You may not have a dog,
you may not have little kids. I have a dog.
I have three. Actually, one is definitely afraid of fireworks,
really uncomfortable. So for Fourth July, we put them in
the room. We can surround them with blankets. You know,
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it's all his favorite things. Try and get them away
from the noise so he doesn't know what's happening all
that stuff. But once you get past like, hey, we're
a three day weekend, it's over. Stop blowing up the
damn fireworks. Okay, stop stop, it's over for the julye
is over. Move on, I love What do you got.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Both sides of the coin? By the way, what are
the names of your dogs?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
We have Odell Beckham Junior Junior, we have Luca dog Chis,
and we have Vince Lombardi. Well to well, first five, well,
he goes by Odi or Odell, Okay, then uh, Luca
goes by Chomps them chomps, and then uh, Vincent Lombardi
goes by Barty Barty Odie Chumps.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
If you're keeping score at home, within two minutes on
this broadcast, Doug has insulted me for being too wordy
and maybe too nuances.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
It was constructive, constructive feedback.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
More and then he gives the name of those dogs
that are far too nuanced and wordy.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, no, no, listen, that's their full names. Okay, my name
is Douglas Mitchell Gottlieb. I go by Doug. Okay, it
becalls me Doug or dg or Doug Gottlieb. Okay, so
it's not nuanced. He asked the names. I gave him
the names. Then I gave him what we actually call them.
That's okay, you were too wordy. No one would argue otherwise,
like Ryan, was that good trash talk from Jason Stewart
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at live in a baseball game? No? It was pretty bad, right, Ilo, that.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Was a small sample size, but I see ways that
he could have been more effective.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Okay, So the point is that I'm your friend and
I'm telling you it was bad. Do better. And I
have several other baseball friends who are like, Jason's really
heckling jose al tuove, he's such a fan. There's such
a fan. I was like, yeah, he actually is. He's
a real fan, real fan.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
This is a sore subject. But during your first sideline
this past year, would would would you find?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Okay, we were there there terrible?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Were there any that you kind of chuckled to yourself
and said, no, that's that was pretty clever?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes? So what so? So most of them were really
most of you are terrible at it, Like go do
a podcast, Like that's not really trash talk, it's not
really past talk. But there was There was a group
at Cleveland State. And what happened was one of the
guys was got a little bit over the line where
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he was talking to ask him where my daughter.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Harper's where's Harper? Where's Harper? Bring harp right?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So I went in a halftime halftime, I walked over
and I said, hey, look man, okay, that's out of bounds.
My daughter's out of bounds. So mentor again, I'll have
you escort out of the arena, which is my right
as a coach. So we go back to the second
half and they're like, where's Gauge. What Gauge is My
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nephew he's he was a senior high school. Now he's
going to GCU as a manager Grand Canyon, and he's like.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Is Gauge out of bounds?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I thought that was funny. I thought that was funny.
It was a quick adjustment by a Cleveland State student.
Most of them were terrible, though, every got heckled every game.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
So they're actually taking the time to do deep internet research.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
It's kind of.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Group that group did. It's not that deep, but that
group did. Most groups is just like go back to
your podcast or your radio show sucks too. Okay, thanks.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
By the way, that's cool about Gage Grand Canyon is
a great, great environment.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
There you go, great arena down there.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's gonna work for Bryce. Uh Bryce true a riot Smith.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
You know what I really like going to a podcast
that's funny. I'm sorry, it's not meaning, it's just funny.
I was like, it's it's so random, go to a podcast.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Welcome to a podcast.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
H I hated the fact that I had to relive
the Astros beating the Dodgers in that World Series, that
Game seven when the Dodgers lost. That was my birthday.
I was that crushed me and I and this weekend
when we got swept by them. I really hated that.
So that would rely that's what really take me off
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over the weekend, and that is love and hate.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Jay Stu, Jay Stu, you know, you know what that
segment went so much quicker.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Let's see we have Ryan and I lo one here.
Sam's out.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, that's we know our reason.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Right that last part.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yep, we love Sam. But if you think that your
trash talk was wordy, I give you ia. Sam. I'm
making a point.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
He doesn't quite know where the stops on is. You
know that is the over aggressive runner who goes right
through the stops on.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
He reminds me of was it plane trains and automobiles
where John Candy's driving the wrong way down road and uh,
some guy pull He pulls up alongside somebody and Gay goes.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You're going the wrong way, and he goes, you want
to race?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
He reminds me of you want to race?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
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Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. So Clippers
apparently pull off a three. So's a seventeen deal now.
And this is the weird thing about the the Kevin Rant.
Things like the trade, well we thought it was done,
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but it's not done until it actually kind of goes
to the commissioner's off. They end up like everybody want
to move bad contracts and whatever. So the Clippers assume
be the the Rockets. Excuse me, the Rockets end up
being part of the first ever seven team trade. I
I don't even know how you like, do you do
that on a zoom? That means everybody has to have
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an iPhone too, jasetuw. That's what it means. Don't do
the Google thing, you know, the Android thing. I'm so
much cooler than you. I gotta I have a phone
which probably functionality is way better, but nobody else has that.
Don't start with the percentages of worldwide how many people
have iPhones as opposed to androids in the business and sports.
(17:41):
You're like, on a ten percent of business and sports
have have the droid. Anyway, Norman Powell goes to Miami,
the Clippers get John Collins, who's shop blocker, rebounder, dunker,
big guy, right, And uh yeah, that's that's the biggest
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parts of that trade, of the Clippers making that trade. Meanwhile,
Tyrese Haliburton confirms he's gonna miss all of next season,
not a surprise. And then I mentioned the Clippers seventeen trade.
Excuse be the Sun's seventeen trade off the top of
your head, Ilo, how many names of players in that
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seventeen trade can you actually get? Uh?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Can I phone a friend or do fifth?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
No chance? No chance?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, I mean the Warriors got Jemi Mashak Mayshak. I don't,
I don't. I don't know what that is. I don't
know who that is. Uh, there's there's a lot of
different ones just moving around contracts to make it all
make sense so that everybody ends up happy. I guess.
I guess. Clippers though, like they they've they've gotten this
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place to they're like they're they're good, they're whatever. They're
just kind of hanging around being sort of a playoff team,
and yeah, just sort of above just above mediocre, above mediocre.
What a what a weird offseason. It's really strange, Like, yeah,
I think the Rockets got better, but you trade out
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of Jalen Green. Oh, I'm not a huge fan of
but very young for an aging Kevin Ran who's still
really good but not the same guy he used to be.
Is that enough? I don't know. I don't know. The
team most who won in one of the most games
of the regular season seems to be the one that's
gonna be the same. And the East has never truly
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been as strong as the West, although was pretty strong
this year. And now you got the Celtics, the Bucks,
the Pacers looking like, hey, we're gonna press pause and
go for it. The following year, Weird offseason, Weird Mike Grizzo,
Mike Grizzo, Sorry, that's a Jerky Boys. Uh do any
(20:08):
of you guys remember Jerky Boys?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
You bring in a tank, I'll sell the frickin thing.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
You know who is a big fan of the Jerky Boys.
I'm not making this up. Bill Belichick, by the way,
true story.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Really yeah, that tells me he's got great taste. I
spent hours and hours in the nineties memorizing Jerky Boys.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh my, who didn't. I will bring my shoes and
my glasses so I have them. Can I bring my shoes?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
And for people who don't know what the Jerky Boys are,
back when we had cassette tapes, you're like, what is
a cassette tape? Let me google it? Uh. Anyway, these
began circulating and it was what's the there's a prank show,
which I think has gone away that was on True TV.
Was that called whether they pulled pranks and they had
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like an ear piece into their friends and they go
into a grocery store have to say bizarre things to people. Anyway,
it was basically it was a it was a pranker
it was for pranks. You know. You call the local
pizza place and he said, my wife's sick, my daughter
is sick, and you want to give me a free pizza.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm gonna come down there and whoop your ass.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
You're talking about impractical jokers.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Impractical jokers.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yes, different jokers, different deal.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So you're the only person a different deal, but same deal.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Who watches True TV for non NCAA tournament reasons.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I see, Well that's what happens when you watch during
not during the NCAA tournament. Impractical jokers. What's that? Actually
hung out with those guys one year at the Final
four and they were not interesting guys, really one of
those like, man, these guys must be fun, awesome, like
never really kind of arrogant, not that cool. Yeah, just ay,
(21:54):
just just keeping it real, bro, Just keep it real, Okay,
did you guys? See? Well, there's lots of things that
our president has said. But our president said something interesting
about the the nickname change to now the Commanders, right,
because remember the Washington Commanders were they were the Redskins,
(22:15):
they were the football team, and now they're the Commanders.
Here's Potus was asked yesterday about the Commanders on the tarmac,
I see the.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Commander's change the name back to Redskins.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Well, you want going to make a controversial statement, I
would I wouldn't have changed it in But that's Sarah
doesn't have the same It doesn't have the same.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Ring to me.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
But you know, winning can make everything sound good.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So if they win, all of.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
A sudden, the Commanders sounds good. But I wouldn't have
changed in it.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Okay. I actually think in a world in which everybody
this is his strength, right, this is his strength when
he just from the off the cuff what he thinks,
no political thinking behind it. Because his point is, and
this has always been my point, okay, and we'll get
to the the aspect of whether or not it is
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an offense, was an offensive nickname. His point is like
there's value in a name. There's branding and a name,
specifically the Washington Redskins. A matter of fact, I would
tell you that there are Native American people that I
met that I feel like there's they have no value
in the name Commanders, and there was no win in
changing the nickname. Again, I'm not Native American. I can't
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speak to it. I can only tell you that people
who are like, well, that's an offensive name, Like not really,
no one calls a Native American or redskin like. They're
just like, it's not part of popular speech. There are
offensive words, but it's not, especially if it honors the
traditions of Native American warriors in the past. That's my
personal feeling. And they've done studies and obviously they vary
(23:55):
in terms of results, but some have said that those
studies show that the Americans took great pride in it.
But the point is that he just said what he thought,
and I didn't like that. You wanted something controversial, like, well,
why don't you say what you think, regardless whether it's controversial.
But the point at the end was the smart point.
And this is the point I've always believed. Dan Gilbert,
bad guy, bad leader, ran bad franchise. They played in
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a place that is not very old, but it's gonna
get knocked down as a dump. But because how he
treated people, treated fans, Dan seider I said, Dan geber
I apologized to the Gilbert family. Dan Snyder, bad guy,
bad team, bad organization, creepy stuff, right, and uh, but
this goes along the lines of Jim Dolan. Dolan in
(24:40):
the Knicks, right, everybody hated Dolan in the Knicks, everybody
hated them, you know, remember Charles, Look, I'm never coming
back there. Ever, they're all there this year. Why because
they're winning. Regardless of whether or not there's new ownership,
role ownership the Commanders now and even the nickname, they're winning.
They got a trem this young quarterback, they got a
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good coach, like it's fun. So, yeah, did did ownership
change the narrative and the feeling? But nothing changes something
like winning. But the idea of changing the nickname back
is such a pipe dream. Yeah, they had a lot
of equity within the name, and Dan Snyder said that
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for a long time, like we had equity in this name,
whether you like it or don't like it, got equity
in that name. And now that equity's gone. Now, let's
say I don't commanders honestly, Guardians are the same way,
they just are. I mean, you could make a much
stronger argument about the Cleveland Indian nickname than you could
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about the Washington Red excuse me, Cleveland Indian mascot, more
so than the redskin mascot, because the redskin mascot was
looked like a Native American warrior, right.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
But we have a conversation about the word woke real fast.
And I know it's kind of piss off a few
of you people listening right now, But the whole wokeism,
you know, that word that the right co opted, The
word that was had great intentions to begin with, and
the right has changed the meaning of the word and
now it's used against the left. I got out of that.
(26:23):
But part of the I guess one of the reasons
Trump got elected, if you look at the polling, is
that he did stand for this anti wokeism. Whatever wocism
means to you, Wocism I think means to a lot
of people, white people feeling guilty for things that should
offend other cultures, other races. And removing the name Indians,
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removing the name Redskins, I think was seen as a
product of this wocism. The actual people aren't offended, but
white people in charge are going to have to change
out of this kind of white guilt that is grounded
in wocism. Is that is that your assessment of this
as well?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Uh? Yeah, yeah. When people try to establish what's offensive
to somebody else, they have no idea their their culture,
or whatever, like yeah, you know, I you know, I
don't know. I also think we can't look at yesterday
through the lens of today. That's a big one. Can't
(27:28):
look at yesterday through the lens of today. I now,
while I agree with him on Redskins, I disagree with
him on you know, Robbie Lee and Fort Bragg and like,
what are we doing? What? What are we? What are
we doing? I think that that woke Originally, this is
(27:52):
like a lot of things. Originally it was the idea
of being aware of things that have subtle vibes of
race that we've allowed to go on for years. But
then suddenly everything became racist, literally everything, and woke became
really paranoid. That that's because I would Ryan Music and
(28:17):
I have had this discussion a lot. Ryan is now
the producer of Cowhard. He used to be where Jay
Suo sits now, and both of us would have the
same conversation like we grew up fairly liberal, household right,
and now we're made to feel by the far left
like we're you know, we're on the far right, which
(28:38):
we are not. I truly, I want to believe that
all of this stuff is merely a product of media
and social media pushing pushing us further and further away
from each other because it sells right far left versus
far right is anger and fighting. But I would also
tell you that like Trump said, I think it was
(29:00):
like Saturday that he hates Democrats, like what are you
doing like to your fellow man, by the way, you
represent all of them so and honestly, I think that
it's it's been used. This is the point Jason I
made on the podcast last week. Where conservatives or Republicans
(29:22):
win is they can take anything and exploit it and
make it far worse than it possibly is, and they
can take any little victory and celebrate it, whereas democrats
to the left, they apologize for any victory and they're
so afraid of being offensive that they end up offending
(29:45):
a lot more people because they're too accepting of things
that are really really fringe. That's my thoughts. So ends
my ted talk as a radical centrist. This is the
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Speaker 1 (30:32):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. So Clippers
apparently pull off a three. So's the seventeen deal now?
(30:53):
And this is the weird thing about the the Kevin Rant.
Things like the trade, well, we thought it was done,
but it's not done until it actually kind of goes
the commissioner's office. They end up like everybody want to
move bad contracts and whatever. So the Clippers assumde the
the Rockets excuse me. The Rockets end up being part
of the first ever seventeam trade. Like I don't even
(31:16):
know how you like, do you do that on a zoom?
That means everybody has to have an iPhone too, Jay
stew That's what it means. Don't do the Google thing,
you know, the Android thing. I'm so much cooler than you.
I gotta I have a phone which probably functionality is
way better, but nobody else has that. Don't start with
the percentages of worldwide how many people have iPhones as
(31:37):
opposed to androids in the business and sports. You're like
on a ten percent of business and sports have have
the droid. Anyway, Norman Powell goes to Miami, the Clippers
get John Collins, who's shop blocker, rebounder, dunker, big guy, right,
(32:03):
And uh yeah, that's that's the biggest parts of that trade,
of the Clippers making that trade.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Meanwhile, Tyrese Haliburton confirms he's gonna miss all of next season,
not a surprise. And then I mentioned the Clippers seventeen trade.
It excuna be the Sun's seventeen trade off the top
of your head. I loo, how many names of players
in that seventeen trade can you actually get?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Can I phone a friend or do fifth?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
No chance? No chance?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, I mean the Warriors got Jami Mashak Mayshak. I don't,
I don't. I don't know what that is. I don't
know who that is. Uh, there's there's a lot of
different ones just moving around contracts to make it all
make sense so that everybody ends up happy. I guess.
I guess. Clippers though, like they they've they've got this
(33:00):
place to where they're like, they're they're good, they're whatever.
They're just kind of hanging around being sort of a
playoff team, and yeah, just sort of above just above mediocre,
above mediocre. What a what a weird offseason? It's really strange, Like, yeah,
I think the Rockets got better, but you trade out
(33:21):
of Jalen Green, who I'm not a huge fan of
but very young for an aging Kevin Urran who's still
really good but not the same guy he used to be.
Is that enough? I don't know. I don't know. The
team most who won in one of the most games
the regular season seems to be the one that's gonna
be the same. And the East has never truly been
(33:44):
as strong as the West, although was pretty strong this year.
And now you got the Celtics, the Bucks, the Pacers
looking like, Hey, we're gonna press pause and go for it.
The following year, weird offseason with Isaac Loewen Crime before
we talk about a little NFL nickname story. What do
(34:07):
you got out though, Doug?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
We got drama and then heartbreak. Today, in round four
at Wimbledon, nineteen seed Grigor Dimitrov of Bulgaria went up
two sets to none over one seed Yonick Center, but
then in the third set, Dimitrov sustained an apparent right
pectoral injury. Here's how it sounded on Radio Wimbledon.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
How can he swing that army? It really seems very
unlikely that you will.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I know he's having to retire.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
He's come back on the courts water Shane, that is,
he's played so well. He's actually in tears coming back.
But your heart goes out to Grigor Temitrov. He was
leading by two sets to love too all in the
third set. He's getting a heroic ovation, so much sympathy
for him, but yet again his body lets him down
(34:56):
in a ground slam. That's the fifth one in a
row that he's had to retire.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Hurt. You heard that right.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
It was the fifth straight Grand Slam that Dimitrov had
to retire from due to injury earlier. American Ben Shelton
advance to the quarterfinals with a four set win over
Italy's Lorenzo Sonago Novak Djokovic won his fourth round match
over Australia's Alex Demnor. In Major League Baseball, the Washington
Nationals announced today that bench coach Miguel Cairo will take
(35:24):
over as interim manager. Yesterday, the Nationals fired manager Dave
Martinez as well as general manager Mike Rizzo. Dug back to.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
You, Mike Rizzo. Mike Rizzo, Sorry, that's jerky Boys. Do
any of you guys remember Turkey?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You bring in a tank, I'll sell the frickin thing.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
You know who is a big fan of the jerky Boys.
I'm not making this up. Bill Belichick, by the way,
true story.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Really yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
That tells me he's got great taste. I spent hours
and hours in the nineties memorizing jerky Boys.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Oh my, who didn't my shoes and my glasses? So
I have them? Can I bring my shoes? And for
people who don't know what the Jerky Boys are, back
when we had cassette tapes, you're like, what is a
cassette tape google it. Uh. Anyway, these began circulating and
it was what's the there's a a prank show, which
(36:21):
I think has gone away that was on True TV.
Was that called whether they pulled pranks and they had
like an ear piece into their friends and they go
into a grocery store and have to say bizarre things
to people. Anyway, it was basically it was a it
was a pranker. It was for pranks. You know, you
(36:41):
call the local pizza place and he said, my wife's sick,
my daughter is sick, and you want to give me
a free pizza.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I'm gonna come down there and whoop your ass.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
You're talking about impractical jokers.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Impractical jokers.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yes, different jokers, different deal.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
So you're the only person a different deal who watches
True TV for non NCAA tournament reasons.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I see, Well that's what happens when you watch during
not during the NCAA tournament and practical jokers. What's that?
Actually hung out with those guys one year at the
Final four and they were not interesting guys, really one
of those like, man, these guys must be fun awesome,
like not really kind of arrogant, not that cool. Yeah,
(37:26):
just a just just keeping it real, bro, just keep
it real. Okay, did you guys see Well, there's lots
of things that our president has said. Uh, but our
president said something interesting about the the nickname change to
now the Commanders. Right, remember the Washington Commanders were they
(37:47):
were the Redskins, they were the football team, and now
they're the Commanders. Here's potus was asked yesterday about the
Commanders on the tarmac. I see the.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Commanders change the name back to Redskins.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Well, you want going to make a controversial statement. I
would I wouldn't have changed in it, but that Sarah
just doesn't have the same It doesn't have the same.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Ring to me.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
But you know, winning can make everything sound good.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
So if they win, all of.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
A sudden, the commander sounds good. But I wouldn't have
changed in it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Okay. I actually think in a world in which everybody
this is his strength, right, this is his strength when
he just from the off the cuff what he thinks,
no political thinking behind it. Because his point is, and
this has always been my point, okay, And we'll get
to the the aspect of whether or not it is
(38:43):
an offense, was an offensive nick name? His point is like,
there's value in a name. There's branding and a name,
specifically the Washington Redskins. A matter of fact, I would
tell you that there are Native American people that I
met that I feel like there's they have no value
in the name, and there was no win in changing
nick name. Again, I'm not Native American. I can't speak
(39:04):
to it. I can only tell you that people who
are like, well, that's an defensive name, like not really,
no one calls a Native American or redskin like. They're
just like, it's not part of popular speech. There are
offensive words, but it's not, especially if it honors the
traditions of Native American warriors in the past. That's my
personal feeling. And they've done studies and obviously they vary
(39:28):
in terms of results, but some have said that those
studies show that Native Americans took great pride in it.
But the point is that he just said what he thought,
and I didn't like that. You wanted something controversial, like, well,
why don't you say what you think regardless of whether
it's controversial. But the point at the end was the
smart point, And this is the point I've always believed
Dan Gilbert, bad guy, bad leader, ran bad franchise. They
(39:51):
played in a place that is not very old, but
it's gonna get knocked down as a dump. But because
how he treated people, treated fans, Dad sid I said,
dankebber I apologize to the Gilbert family. Dan Snyder bad guy,
bad team, bad organization, creepy stuff, right and uh, but
this goes along the lines of Jim Dolan. Dolan in
(40:12):
the Knicks. Everybody hated Dolan in the Knicks. Everybody hated them.
You know, remember Charles, Look, I'm never coming back there. Ever,
they're all there this year. Why because they're winning. Regardless
of whether or not there's new ownership, role ownership, the
commanders now and even the nickname, they're winning. They got
a tremendous young quarterback, they got a good coach, Like
(40:35):
it's fun. So, yeah, did did ownership change the narrative
and the feeling? But nothing changes something like winning. But
they're the The idea of changing the nickname back is
such a pipe dream. Yeah, they had a lot of
equity within the name, and Dan Snyder said that for
a long time, like, we got equity in this name,
(40:56):
whether you like it or don't like it, got equity
in that name, and now that equity's going. Now, let's
say I don't commanders, honestly, guardians are the same way,
they just are. I mean, you could make a much
stronger argument about the Cleveland Indian nickname than you could
(41:17):
about the Washington red excuse me, Cleveland Indian mascot, more
so than the redskin mascot, because the redskin mascot was
looked like a Native American warrior. Right.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
But we have a conversation about the word woke real fast,
and I know it's just kind of piss off a
few of you people listening right now, but the the
whole woke ism, you know, that word that the right
co opted, The word that was had great intentions to
begin with, and the right has changed the meaning of
the word and now it's chused against the left. I
(41:55):
got out of that. But part of the I guess
one of the reasons Trump got elected, if you look
at the polling, is that he did stand for this
anti wocism. Whatever wocism means to you, Wocism I think
means to a lot of people, white people feeling guilty
for things that should offend other cultures, other races, and
(42:18):
removing the name Indians removing the name Redskins I think
was seen as a product of this wocism. The actual
people aren't offended, but white people in charge are going
to have to change out of this kind of white
guilt that is grounded in wocism. Is that is that
(42:38):
your assessment of this as well?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Uh? Yeah, yeah, when people try to establish what's offensive
to somebody else, they have no idea their culture or whatever,
like yeah, you know, you know, I don't know. I
also think we can't look at yesterday through the lens
of today. That's a big one. Can't look at yesterday
(43:02):
through the lens of today. I now, while I agree
with him on Redskins, I disagree with him on you know,
Robbie Lee and Fort Bragg and like what are we doing?
What are we? What are we doing? I think that
(43:22):
that woke Originally, this is like a lot of things.
Originally it was the idea of being aware of things
that have subtle vibes of racism that we've allowed to
go on for years. But then suddenly everything became racist,
literally everything, and woke became really paranoid. That that's because
(43:47):
I would Ryan Music and I have had this discussion
a lot Ryan is now the producer of Cowhard. He
used to be where Jay su sits now, and both
of us would have the same conversation like we're up
fairly liberal household right, and now we're made to feel
by the far left like we're you know, we're on
(44:10):
the far right, which we are not. I truly, I
want to believe that all of this stuff is merely
a product of media and social media pushing pushing us
further and further away from each other because it sells right.
Far left versus far right is anger and fighting. But
I would also tell you that like Trump said, I
(44:32):
think it was like Saturday that he hates Democrats, Like
what are you doing? Like your fellow man, you by
the way, you represent all of them so and honestly,
I think that it's it's been used. This is this
is the point Jason I made on the podcast last week.
(44:52):
Where conservatives or Republicans win is they can take anything
and exploit it and make it far worse than it
possibly is, and they can take any little victory and
celebrate it, whereas democrats to the left, they apologize for
any victory and they're so afraid of being offensive that
(45:16):
they end up offending a lot more people because they're
too accepting of things that are really, really fringe. That's
my thoughts, So ends my ted talk as a radical centrist.
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he got changed right. We'll get to that, but first
let's get to our recap of the weekend. Something we
(01:07):
call love and hate?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
God? I love you?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Need these player, hay is.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Love love, love, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate strong words.
We got a strong show. Let's go to our good
friend Jason Stewart. What'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Jace two, I'd love to go west. That's what I
would have loved to do.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Okay, So let's go to Isaac lowankhn I love what'd
you love for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
So the Friday counts fourth July?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Right? Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It was really actually cool memory. I mentioned this on
Jonas's show and he's got me wanted by the cops now.
But like a block away from our house, there's this
long road and people from outside the neighborhood they set
up shop on this long road and they set off
fireworks all all night long on the fourth of July.
(02:02):
So me and my kids it was like a fireworks parade.
We walked up and down and got to see like
pro level fireworks. My eight year old was shouting fire
in the hall and I have no idea where you
learn that sound.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Was kind of a nice memory.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
So there we go.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay, and buy your gods.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Free pizza on Friday, by the way too.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, let's go to Big Ryan Smith. Ryan, what do
you got Well?
Speaker 6 (02:26):
I do love the fourth of July. I love the fireworks,
but I hate it when I'm trying to sleep and
the fireworks are going off. I love the fact that
that didn't happen. There weren't a lot of fireworks going off,
so I got peaceful sleep. And that's what I loved
over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Peaceful sleep. Very very nice that you love for the weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
By the way, the three of us all live in
you know, southern California. Here, guys, when you woke up
on Saturday morning, like where I lived, it was all
like smoky and hazy, like all over Southern California was
like that for you on Saturday morning.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Absolutely out in the burbs it was. And the fireworks
were going off the entire weekend. It was a three
day firework exhibit up in the suburbs.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I kind of a diabolical what I liked.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Did you see the video.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
There's some rapper I've never heard of it, blow off
his hand anybody on social media.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
No, I hadn't heard about this was that this weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, it's JPP. That's what I got to four Extra
You guys ever heard of four Extra boy?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
That's a very ironic name. But okay, no, I don't
google him.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Man boy.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well four Extra some rapper and he was holding two
M E. D's in his hand and he's walking around
saying I'm gonna blow and he dropped an N bomb
up right. Then there's a video of him blowing off
four of his fingers. Oh man, I have not seen
said video, but I'm gonna watch it because that's who
(04:11):
I am and listen. But again, my point is more like,
don't get me wrong, like when fireworks mistakenly go off,
or you know, if a fuse doesn't work, or you know,
if you have all the safety precautions. But I saw
one where somebody gives a Roman candle to like a
two year old who mistakenly goes and runs into the house.
(04:31):
This one with this dude four Extra like blowing off
his hand when he talked about blowing other people up, Like,
hey dude, sorry, but you did know you were holding
a quarter stick of dynamite in your hand. That's what
happens when you f around and find out you taste too.
Like am I supposed to feel too much sympathy when
(04:51):
dudes threatened to blow other people up and then they
blow their own hand off. I do not. Sorry.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Even Lamar Jackson weighed in with his sympathies, posting, damn
for extra y'all be said with them fireworks. Then someone
replied to that, don't play with fireworks. Lamar, you're the
best running back we have, and Lamar replied, when I
started hearing about people's hands and faces being blowed off,
(05:17):
I stopped that bra So even Lamar Jackson advocating for
fireworks safety, just like you.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, love his on hand. Again, It's not because I
don't feel sympathy for somebody blowing out their own hand.
It's the I'm walking around with twom Med. He's talking
about blowing up other people and then I bluffed bone
Han Jase too. What's you left on the weekend?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
What not?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
To of the Astros came to town and I'll tell
you what on Friday night did or herscheizer cause a
stir so. For those that don't know the history, the
Astros cheated their way to a World Serious championship in
twenty seventeen, and the commissioner didn't hold any players accountable,
(06:03):
no punishment, and when asked why you didn't vacate the
World Series championship from the Astros, the commissioner said, some
mishmouth thing about slippery slopes. I don't know what is
worse than being caught cheating during a World Series in
which you won a championship in I don't know where
the slippery slope exists. But anyways, Dodger fans never forget
(06:25):
what happened, and they never forgot that the Astros never
received any punishment. So on Friday Night or a Hersheiser,
much to his credit, God bless him, Bulldog on Friday Night,
I think it was Joe Davis. He said this on
the broadcast.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
It hard the deep center field pot has on the
round A turn of watch this one wedge itself in
the bottom of the round and Cam Smith flying into
second anchoring there with another extra base it for the
Astros double homer, double Philip and third against Casparios. I
have a lot of open hold room, but in some
ways they're swinging at these breaking balls like they know
(07:01):
what it's coming.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
So orl with a great line and that went viral.
And Astros Twitter really hated it. I retweeted hashtag never
forget hashtag Houston Asterisks and got a crapload from the
Houston Astros of when are you guys going to get
over this? It's been eight years? How about this? If
(07:26):
you guys were properly punished, we would probably be over
it by now. So I blame Manfred and I blame
Astros for having the lack of character to cheat.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Okay, that's what we love.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Let's get to it. We hated over the weekend. Our
resident hater is nonther than Jason Stewart goes last in
love because he loves the least. First, I hate because
he hates the most. Chase two.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
You hate to see the Astros sweep the Dodgers, ever,
but you definitely hated to see the Astros sweep the
Dodgers this past weekend at Dodger Stadium. And then I
will had a really good seat to see the final
game of that sweep, one in which the what one
holdover from the twenty seventeen squad, Jose al Tuv I
(08:12):
went to boo him and heckle him personally, and he
launched a home run in the ninth inning. I think
was a direct response to my heckling. He was asked
after the game about this heckling from yours truly.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Is that what twenty seven stances for the number of
pitches you saw coming to the twenty seventeen postseason?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Is that what twenty seventh stance for?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Answer me?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
He never answered me, but he did hit a home
run in the ninth inning. The astro swept. When he
was asked afterwards, he said it rattled him for a
little bit, but he gained his composure for his last
at bat.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
That was terrible trash talk, too wordy, and nobody's catching
all those words.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Is it because he's English second language or do you
just think he was too wordy? Anyways?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I just thought it was too wordy. That was short
pointed to the point, like like again, I know the
fan got in trouble for it because he yelled at
the wrong du but like your mom is better than
is twenty seven the number of times you knew a
ball was coming to you back in the previous playoffs,
not last year, or the year before or the year
(09:31):
before that, but back several years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Is that the number dumb.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Should we send Jason to Robin Thicker for some for
a consultation on proper heckling technique?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Is that the old heckler from the Washington.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Capitals Washington Wizards when they were the Bullets.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But yes, sir, yeah, Washington Bullets. That's right. He used
to like read things to Michael Jordan. It was he
was great.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah when the Jordan the rules came out.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, what did I hate from the weekend? Uh, well,
I'm I hate the fact that people and listen, I
know what's going to happen tonight. Okay. I live on
a lake, so it's really cool on Fourth July. You
look around the lake and there's just everywhere you can
(10:24):
go fireworks. But like, we've hit the point where it's over.
It was a little bit over last night. Now it's
really over. And I understand. You may not have a dog,
you may not have little kids. I have a dog.
I have three. Actually, one is definitely afraid of fireworks,
really uncomfortable. So for Fourth July, we put them in
the room. We can surround them with blankets. You know,
(10:46):
it's all his favorite things. Try and get them away
from the noise so he doesn't know what's happening all
that stuff. But once you get past like, hey, we're
a three day weekend, it's over. Stop blowing up the
damn fireworks. Okay, stop stop, it's over for the julye
is over. Move on, I love What do you got.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Both sides of the coin? By the way, what are
the names of your dogs?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
We have Odell Beckham Junior Junior, we have Luca dog Chis,
and we have Vince Lombardi. Well to well, first five, well,
he goes by Odi or Odell, Okay, then uh, Luca
goes by Chomps them chomps, and then uh, Vincent Lombardi
goes by Barty Barty Odie Chumps.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
If you're keeping score at home, within two minutes on
this broadcast, Doug has insulted me for being too wordy
and maybe too nuances.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
It was constructive, constructive feedback.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
More and then he gives the name of those dogs
that are far too nuanced and wordy.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, no, no, listen, that's their full names. Okay, my name
is Douglas Mitchell Gottlieb. I go by Doug. Okay, it
becalls me Doug or dg or Doug Gottlieb. Okay, so
it's not nuanced. He asked the names. I gave him
the names. Then I gave him what we actually call them.
That's okay, you were too wordy. No one would argue otherwise,
like Ryan, was that good trash talk from Jason Stewart
(12:14):
at live in a baseball game? No? It was pretty bad, right, Ilo, that.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Was a small sample size, but I see ways that
he could have been more effective.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Okay, So the point is that I'm your friend and
I'm telling you it was bad. Do better. And I
have several other baseball friends who are like, Jason's really
heckling jose al tuove, he's such a fan. There's such
a fan. I was like, yeah, he actually is. He's
a real fan, real fan.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
This is a sore subject. But during your first sideline
this past year, would would would you find?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Okay, we were there there terrible?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Were there any that you kind of chuckled to yourself
and said, no, that's that was pretty clever?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes? So what so? So most of them were really
most of you are terrible at it, Like go do
a podcast, Like that's not really trash talk, it's not
really past talk. But there was There was a group
at Cleveland State. And what happened was one of the
guys was got a little bit over the line where
(13:19):
he was talking to ask him where my daughter.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Harper's where's Harper? Where's Harper? Bring harp right?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So I went in a halftime halftime, I walked over
and I said, hey, look man, okay, that's out of bounds.
My daughter's out of bounds. So mentor again, I'll have
you escort out of the arena, which is my right
as a coach. So we go back to the second
half and they're like, where's Gauge. What Gauge is My
(13:45):
nephew he's he was a senior high school. Now he's
going to GCU as a manager Grand Canyon, and he's like.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Is Gauge out of bounds?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I thought that was funny. I thought that was funny.
It was a quick adjustment by a Cleveland State student.
Most of them were terrible, though, every got heckled every game.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
So they're actually taking the time to do deep internet research.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
It's kind of.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Group that group did. It's not that deep, but that
group did. Most groups is just like go back to
your podcast or your radio show sucks too. Okay, thanks.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
By the way, that's cool about Gage Grand Canyon is
a great, great environment.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
There you go, great arena down there.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's gonna work for Bryce. Uh Bryce true a riot Smith.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
You know what I really like going to a podcast
that's funny. I'm sorry, it's not meaning, it's just funny.
I was like, it's it's so random, go to a podcast.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Welcome to a podcast.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
H I hated the fact that I had to relive
the Astros beating the Dodgers in that World Series, that
Game seven when the Dodgers lost. That was my birthday.
I was that crushed me and I and this weekend
when we got swept by them. I really hated that.
So that would rely that's what really take me off
(15:09):
over the weekend, and that is love and hate.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Jay Stu, Jay Stu, you know, you know what that
segment went so much quicker.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Let's see we have Ryan and I lo one here.
Sam's out.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, that's we know our reason.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Right that last part.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yep, we love Sam. But if you think that your
trash talk was wordy, I give you ia. Sam. I'm
making a point.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
He doesn't quite know where the stops on is. You
know that is the over aggressive runner who goes right
through the stops on.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
He reminds me of was it plane trains and automobiles
where John Candy's driving the wrong way down road and uh,
some guy pull He pulls up alongside somebody and Gay goes.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You're going the wrong way, and he goes, you want
to race?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
He reminds me of you want to race?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. So Clippers
apparently pull off a three. So's a seventeen deal now.
And this is the weird thing about the the Kevin Rant.
Things like the trade, well we thought it was done,
(16:57):
but it's not done until it actually kind of goes
to the commissioner's off. They end up like everybody want
to move bad contracts and whatever. So the Clippers assume
be the the Rockets. Excuse me, the Rockets end up
being part of the first ever seven team trade. I
I don't even know how you like, do you do
that on a zoom? That means everybody has to have
(17:19):
an iPhone too, jasetuw. That's what it means. Don't do
the Google thing, you know, the Android thing. I'm so
much cooler than you. I gotta I have a phone
which probably functionality is way better, but nobody else has that.
Don't start with the percentages of worldwide how many people
have iPhones as opposed to androids in the business and sports.
(17:41):
You're like, on a ten percent of business and sports
have have the droid. Anyway, Norman Powell goes to Miami,
the Clippers get John Collins, who's shop blocker, rebounder, dunker,
big guy, right, And uh yeah, that's that's the biggest
(18:05):
parts of that trade, of the Clippers making that trade. Meanwhile,
Tyrese Haliburton confirms he's gonna miss all of next season,
not a surprise. And then I mentioned the Clippers seventeen trade.
Excuse be the Sun's seventeen trade off the top of
your head, Ilo, how many names of players in that
(18:28):
seventeen trade can you actually get? Uh?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Can I phone a friend or do fifth?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
No chance? No chance?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, I mean the Warriors got Jemi Mashak Mayshak. I don't,
I don't. I don't know what that is. I don't
know who that is. Uh, there's there's a lot of
different ones just moving around contracts to make it all
make sense so that everybody ends up happy. I guess.
I guess. Clippers though, like they they've they've gotten this
(18:59):
place to they're like they're they're good, they're whatever. They're
just kind of hanging around being sort of a playoff team,
and yeah, just sort of above just above mediocre, above mediocre.
What a what a weird offseason. It's really strange, Like, yeah,
I think the Rockets got better, but you trade out
(19:21):
of Jalen Green. Oh, I'm not a huge fan of
but very young for an aging Kevin Ran who's still
really good but not the same guy he used to be.
Is that enough? I don't know. I don't know. The
team most who won in one of the most games
of the regular season seems to be the one that's
gonna be the same. And the East has never truly
(19:43):
been as strong as the West, although was pretty strong
this year. And now you got the Celtics, the Bucks,
the Pacers looking like, hey, we're gonna press pause and
go for it. The following year, Weird offseason, Weird Mike Grizzo,
Mike Grizzo, Sorry, that's a Jerky Boys. Uh do any
(20:08):
of you guys remember Jerky Boys?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
You bring in a tank, I'll sell the frickin thing.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
You know who is a big fan of the Jerky Boys.
I'm not making this up. Bill Belichick, by the way,
true story.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Really yeah, that tells me he's got great taste. I
spent hours and hours in the nineties memorizing Jerky Boys.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh my, who didn't. I will bring my shoes and
my glasses so I have them. Can I bring my shoes?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
And for people who don't know what the Jerky Boys are,
back when we had cassette tapes, you're like, what is
a cassette tape? Let me google it? Uh. Anyway, these
began circulating and it was what's the there's a prank show,
which I think has gone away that was on True TV.
Was that called whether they pulled pranks and they had
(20:56):
like an ear piece into their friends and they go
into a grocery store have to say bizarre things to people. Anyway,
it was basically it was a it was a pranker
it was for pranks. You know. You call the local
pizza place and he said, my wife's sick, my daughter
is sick, and you want to give me a free pizza.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm gonna come down there and whoop your ass.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
You're talking about impractical jokers.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Impractical jokers.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yes, different jokers, different deal.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So you're the only person a different deal, but same deal.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Who watches True TV for non NCAA tournament reasons.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I see, Well that's what happens when you watch during
not during the NCAA tournament. Impractical jokers. What's that? Actually
hung out with those guys one year at the Final
four and they were not interesting guys, really one of
those like, man, these guys must be fun, awesome, like
never really kind of arrogant, not that cool. Yeah, just ay,
(21:54):
just just keeping it real, bro, Just keep it real, Okay,
did you guys? See? Well, there's lots of things that
our president has said. But our president said something interesting
about the the nickname change to now the Commanders, right,
because remember the Washington Commanders were they were the Redskins,
(22:15):
they were the football team, and now they're the Commanders.
Here's Potus was asked yesterday about the Commanders on the tarmac,
I see the.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Commander's change the name back to Redskins.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Well, you want going to make a controversial statement, I
would I wouldn't have changed it in But that's Sarah
doesn't have the same It doesn't have the same.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Ring to me.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
But you know, winning can make everything sound good.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So if they win, all of.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
A sudden, the Commanders sounds good. But I wouldn't have
changed in it.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Okay. I actually think in a world in which everybody
this is his strength, right, this is his strength when
he just from the off the cuff what he thinks,
no political thinking behind it. Because his point is, and
this has always been my point, okay, and we'll get
to the the aspect of whether or not it is
(23:10):
an offense, was an offensive nickname. His point is like
there's value in a name. There's branding and a name,
specifically the Washington Redskins. A matter of fact, I would
tell you that there are Native American people that I
met that I feel like there's they have no value
in the name Commanders, and there was no win in
changing the nickname. Again, I'm not Native American. I can't
(23:32):
speak to it. I can only tell you that people
who are like, well, that's an offensive name, Like not really,
no one calls a Native American or redskin like. They're
just like, it's not part of popular speech. There are
offensive words, but it's not, especially if it honors the
traditions of Native American warriors in the past. That's my
personal feeling. And they've done studies and obviously they vary
(23:55):
in terms of results, but some have said that those
studies show that the Americans took great pride in it.
But the point is that he just said what he thought,
and I didn't like that. You wanted something controversial, like, well,
why don't you say what you think, regardless whether it's controversial.
But the point at the end was the smart point.
And this is the point I've always believed. Dan Gilbert,
bad guy, bad leader, ran bad franchise. They played in
(24:18):
a place that is not very old, but it's gonna
get knocked down as a dump. But because how he
treated people, treated fans, Dan seider I said, Dan geber
I apologized to the Gilbert family. Dan Snyder, bad guy,
bad team, bad organization, creepy stuff, right, and uh, but
this goes along the lines of Jim Dolan. Dolan in
(24:40):
the Knicks, right, everybody hated Dolan in the Knicks, everybody
hated them, you know, remember Charles, Look, I'm never coming
back there. Ever, they're all there this year. Why because
they're winning. Regardless of whether or not there's new ownership,
role ownership the Commanders now and even the nickname, they're winning.
They got a trem this young quarterback, they got a
(25:01):
good coach, like it's fun. So, yeah, did did ownership
change the narrative and the feeling? But nothing changes something
like winning. But the idea of changing the nickname back
is such a pipe dream. Yeah, they had a lot
of equity within the name, and Dan Snyder said that
(25:21):
for a long time, like we had equity in this name,
whether you like it or don't like it, got equity
in that name. And now that equity's gone. Now, let's
say I don't commanders honestly, Guardians are the same way,
they just are. I mean, you could make a much
stronger argument about the Cleveland Indian nickname than you could
(25:45):
about the Washington Red excuse me, Cleveland Indian mascot, more
so than the redskin mascot, because the redskin mascot was
looked like a Native American warrior, right.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
But we have a conversation about the word woke real fast.
And I know it's kind of piss off a few
of you people listening right now, But the whole wokeism,
you know, that word that the right co opted, The
word that was had great intentions to begin with, and
the right has changed the meaning of the word and
now it's used against the left. I got out of that.
(26:23):
But part of the I guess one of the reasons
Trump got elected, if you look at the polling, is
that he did stand for this anti wokeism. Whatever wocism
means to you, Wocism I think means to a lot
of people, white people feeling guilty for things that should
offend other cultures, other races. And removing the name Indians,
(26:47):
removing the name Redskins, I think was seen as a
product of this wocism. The actual people aren't offended, but
white people in charge are going to have to change
out of this kind of white guilt that is grounded
in wocism. Is that is that your assessment of this
as well?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Uh? Yeah, yeah. When people try to establish what's offensive
to somebody else, they have no idea their their culture,
or whatever, like yeah, you know, I you know, I
don't know. I also think we can't look at yesterday
through the lens of today. That's a big one. Can't
(27:28):
look at yesterday through the lens of today. I now,
while I agree with him on Redskins, I disagree with
him on you know, Robbie Lee and Fort Bragg and like,
what are we doing? What? What are we? What are
we doing? I think that that woke Originally, this is
(27:52):
like a lot of things. Originally it was the idea
of being aware of things that have subtle vibes of
race that we've allowed to go on for years. But
then suddenly everything became racist, literally everything, and woke became
really paranoid. That that's because I would Ryan Music and
(28:17):
I have had this discussion a lot. Ryan is now
the producer of Cowhard. He used to be where Jay
Suo sits now, and both of us would have the
same conversation like we grew up fairly liberal, household right,
and now we're made to feel by the far left
like we're you know, we're on the far right, which
(28:38):
we are not. I truly, I want to believe that
all of this stuff is merely a product of media
and social media pushing pushing us further and further away
from each other because it sells right far left versus
far right is anger and fighting. But I would also
tell you that like Trump said, I think it was
(29:00):
like Saturday that he hates Democrats, like what are you
doing like to your fellow man, by the way, you
represent all of them so and honestly, I think that
it's it's been used. This is the point Jason I
made on the podcast last week. Where conservatives or Republicans
(29:22):
win is they can take anything and exploit it and
make it far worse than it possibly is, and they
can take any little victory and celebrate it, whereas democrats
to the left, they apologize for any victory and they're
so afraid of being offensive that they end up offending
(29:45):
a lot more people because they're too accepting of things
that are really really fringe. That's my thoughts. So ends
my ted talk as a radical centrist. This is the
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A heartbreaking episode at Wimbledon.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
We'll tell you next.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. This
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Speaker 1 (30:32):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. So Clippers
apparently pull off a three. So's the seventeen deal now?
(30:53):
And this is the weird thing about the the Kevin Rant.
Things like the trade, well, we thought it was done,
but it's not done until it actually kind of goes
the commissioner's office. They end up like everybody want to
move bad contracts and whatever. So the Clippers assumde the
the Rockets excuse me. The Rockets end up being part
of the first ever seventeam trade. Like I don't even
(31:16):
know how you like, do you do that on a zoom?
That means everybody has to have an iPhone too, Jay
stew That's what it means. Don't do the Google thing,
you know, the Android thing. I'm so much cooler than you.
I gotta I have a phone which probably functionality is
way better, but nobody else has that. Don't start with
the percentages of worldwide how many people have iPhones as
(31:37):
opposed to androids in the business and sports. You're like
on a ten percent of business and sports have have
the droid. Anyway, Norman Powell goes to Miami, the Clippers
get John Collins, who's shop blocker, rebounder, dunker, big guy, right,
(32:03):
And uh yeah, that's that's the biggest parts of that trade,
of the Clippers making that trade.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Meanwhile, Tyrese Haliburton confirms he's gonna miss all of next season,
not a surprise. And then I mentioned the Clippers seventeen trade.
It excuna be the Sun's seventeen trade off the top
of your head. I loo, how many names of players
in that seventeen trade can you actually get?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Can I phone a friend or do fifth?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
No chance? No chance?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, I mean the Warriors got Jami Mashak Mayshak. I don't,
I don't. I don't know what that is. I don't
know who that is. Uh, there's there's a lot of
different ones just moving around contracts to make it all
make sense so that everybody ends up happy. I guess.
I guess. Clippers though, like they they've they've got this
(33:00):
place to where they're like, they're they're good, they're whatever.
They're just kind of hanging around being sort of a
playoff team, and yeah, just sort of above just above mediocre,
above mediocre. What a what a weird offseason? It's really strange, Like, yeah,
I think the Rockets got better, but you trade out
(33:21):
of Jalen Green, who I'm not a huge fan of
but very young for an aging Kevin Urran who's still
really good but not the same guy he used to be.
Is that enough? I don't know. I don't know. The
team most who won in one of the most games
the regular season seems to be the one that's gonna
be the same. And the East has never truly been
(33:44):
as strong as the West, although was pretty strong this year.
And now you got the Celtics, the Bucks, the Pacers
looking like, Hey, we're gonna press pause and go for it.
The following year, weird offseason with Isaac Loewen Crime before
we talk about a little NFL nickname story. What do
(34:07):
you got out though, Doug?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
We got drama and then heartbreak. Today, in round four
at Wimbledon, nineteen seed Grigor Dimitrov of Bulgaria went up
two sets to none over one seed Yonick Center, but
then in the third set, Dimitrov sustained an apparent right
pectoral injury. Here's how it sounded on Radio Wimbledon.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
How can he swing that army? It really seems very
unlikely that you will.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I know he's having to retire.
Speaker 9 (34:35):
He's come back on the courts water Shane, that is,
he's played so well. He's actually in tears coming back.
But your heart goes out to Grigor Temitrov. He was
leading by two sets to love too all in the
third set. He's getting a heroic ovation, so much sympathy
for him, but yet again his body lets him down
(34:56):
in a ground slam. That's the fifth one in a
row that he's had to retire.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Hurt. You heard that right.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
It was the fifth straight Grand Slam that Dimitrov had
to retire from due to injury earlier. American Ben Shelton
advance to the quarterfinals with a four set win over
Italy's Lorenzo Sonago Novak Djokovic won his fourth round match
over Australia's Alex Demnor. In Major League Baseball, the Washington
Nationals announced today that bench coach Miguel Cairo will take
(35:24):
over as interim manager. Yesterday, the Nationals fired manager Dave
Martinez as well as general manager Mike Rizzo. Dug back to.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
You, Mike Rizzo. Mike Rizzo, Sorry, that's jerky Boys. Do
any of you guys remember Turkey?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You bring in a tank, I'll sell the frickin thing.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
You know who is a big fan of the jerky Boys.
I'm not making this up. Bill Belichick, by the way,
true story.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Really yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
That tells me he's got great taste. I spent hours
and hours in the nineties memorizing jerky Boys.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Oh my, who didn't my shoes and my glasses? So
I have them? Can I bring my shoes? And for
people who don't know what the Jerky Boys are, back
when we had cassette tapes, you're like, what is a
cassette tape google it. Uh. Anyway, these began circulating and
it was what's the there's a a prank show, which
(36:21):
I think has gone away that was on True TV.
Was that called whether they pulled pranks and they had
like an ear piece into their friends and they go
into a grocery store and have to say bizarre things
to people. Anyway, it was basically it was a it
was a pranker. It was for pranks. You know, you
(36:41):
call the local pizza place and he said, my wife's sick,
my daughter is sick, and you want to give me
a free pizza.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I'm gonna come down there and whoop your ass.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
You're talking about impractical jokers.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Impractical jokers.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yes, different jokers, different deal.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
So you're the only person a different deal who watches
True TV for non NCAA tournament reasons.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I see, Well that's what happens when you watch during
not during the NCAA tournament and practical jokers. What's that?
Actually hung out with those guys one year at the
Final four and they were not interesting guys, really one
of those like, man, these guys must be fun awesome,
like not really kind of arrogant, not that cool. Yeah,
(37:26):
just a just just keeping it real, bro, just keep
it real. Okay, did you guys see Well, there's lots
of things that our president has said. Uh, but our
president said something interesting about the the nickname change to
now the Commanders. Right, remember the Washington Commanders were they
(37:47):
were the Redskins, they were the football team, and now
they're the Commanders. Here's potus was asked yesterday about the
Commanders on the tarmac. I see the.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Commanders change the name back to Redskins.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
Well, you want going to make a controversial statement. I
would I wouldn't have changed in it, but that Sarah
just doesn't have the same It doesn't have the same.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Ring to me.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
But you know, winning can make everything sound good.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
So if they win, all of.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
A sudden, the commander sounds good. But I wouldn't have
changed in it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Okay. I actually think in a world in which everybody
this is his strength, right, this is his strength when
he just from the off the cuff what he thinks,
no political thinking behind it. Because his point is, and
this has always been my point, okay, And we'll get
to the the aspect of whether or not it is
(38:43):
an offense, was an offensive nick name? His point is like,
there's value in a name. There's branding and a name,
specifically the Washington Redskins. A matter of fact, I would
tell you that there are Native American people that I
met that I feel like there's they have no value
in the name, and there was no win in changing
nick name. Again, I'm not Native American. I can't speak
(39:04):
to it. I can only tell you that people who
are like, well, that's an defensive name, like not really,
no one calls a Native American or redskin like. They're
just like, it's not part of popular speech. There are
offensive words, but it's not, especially if it honors the
traditions of Native American warriors in the past. That's my
personal feeling. And they've done studies and obviously they vary
(39:28):
in terms of results, but some have said that those
studies show that Native Americans took great pride in it.
But the point is that he just said what he thought,
and I didn't like that. You wanted something controversial, like, well,
why don't you say what you think regardless of whether
it's controversial. But the point at the end was the
smart point, And this is the point I've always believed
Dan Gilbert, bad guy, bad leader, ran bad franchise. They
(39:51):
played in a place that is not very old, but
it's gonna get knocked down as a dump. But because
how he treated people, treated fans, Dad sid I said,
dankebber I apologize to the Gilbert family. Dan Snyder bad guy,
bad team, bad organization, creepy stuff, right and uh, but
this goes along the lines of Jim Dolan. Dolan in
(40:12):
the Knicks. Everybody hated Dolan in the Knicks. Everybody hated them.
You know, remember Charles, Look, I'm never coming back there. Ever,
they're all there this year. Why because they're winning. Regardless
of whether or not there's new ownership, role ownership, the
commanders now and even the nickname, they're winning. They got
a tremendous young quarterback, they got a good coach, Like
(40:35):
it's fun. So, yeah, did did ownership change the narrative
and the feeling? But nothing changes something like winning. But
they're the The idea of changing the nickname back is
such a pipe dream. Yeah, they had a lot of
equity within the name, and Dan Snyder said that for
a long time, like, we got equity in this name,
(40:56):
whether you like it or don't like it, got equity
in that name, and now that equity's going. Now, let's
say I don't commanders, honestly, guardians are the same way,
they just are. I mean, you could make a much
stronger argument about the Cleveland Indian nickname than you could
(41:17):
about the Washington red excuse me, Cleveland Indian mascot, more
so than the redskin mascot, because the redskin mascot was
looked like a Native American warrior. Right.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
But we have a conversation about the word woke real fast,
and I know it's just kind of piss off a
few of you people listening right now, but the the
whole woke ism, you know, that word that the right
co opted, The word that was had great intentions to
begin with, and the right has changed the meaning of
the word and now it's chused against the left. I
(41:55):
got out of that. But part of the I guess
one of the reasons Trump got elected, if you look
at the polling, is that he did stand for this
anti wocism. Whatever wocism means to you, Wocism I think
means to a lot of people, white people feeling guilty
for things that should offend other cultures, other races, and
(42:18):
removing the name Indians removing the name Redskins I think
was seen as a product of this wocism. The actual
people aren't offended, but white people in charge are going
to have to change out of this kind of white
guilt that is grounded in wocism. Is that is that
(42:38):
your assessment of this as well?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Uh? Yeah, yeah, when people try to establish what's offensive
to somebody else, they have no idea their culture or whatever,
like yeah, you know, you know, I don't know. I
also think we can't look at yesterday through the lens
of today. That's a big one. Can't look at yesterday
(43:02):
through the lens of today. I now, while I agree
with him on Redskins, I disagree with him on you know,
Robbie Lee and Fort Bragg and like what are we doing?
What are we? What are we doing? I think that
(43:22):
that woke Originally, this is like a lot of things.
Originally it was the idea of being aware of things
that have subtle vibes of racism that we've allowed to
go on for years. But then suddenly everything became racist,
literally everything, and woke became really paranoid. That that's because
(43:47):
I would Ryan Music and I have had this discussion
a lot Ryan is now the producer of Cowhard. He
used to be where Jay su sits now, and both
of us would have the same conversation like we're up
fairly liberal household right, and now we're made to feel
by the far left like we're you know, we're on
(44:10):
the far right, which we are not. I truly, I
want to believe that all of this stuff is merely
a product of media and social media pushing pushing us
further and further away from each other because it sells right.
Far left versus far right is anger and fighting. But
I would also tell you that like Trump said, I
(44:32):
think it was like Saturday that he hates Democrats, Like
what are you doing? Like your fellow man, you by
the way, you represent all of them so and honestly,
I think that it's it's been used. This is this
is the point Jason I made on the podcast last week.
(44:52):
Where conservatives or Republicans win is they can take anything
and exploit it and make it far worse than it
possibly is, and they can take any little victory and
celebrate it, whereas democrats to the left, they apologize for
any victory and they're so afraid of being offensive that
(45:16):
they end up offending a lot more people because they're
too accepting of things that are really, really fringe. That's
my thoughts, So ends my ted talk as a radical centrist.
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