August 25, 2025 • 39 mins
On this installment of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most from the sports weekend. Doug welcomes former Chargers and Raiders GM Tom Telesco onto the show to talk about Shedeur Sanders, Micah Parsons and all of the headlines around the NFL. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Dough through The Press.
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know you could download, subscribe, rate and listen to your
boy wherever you go. We do this every Monday. It's
a great way of kind of getting different points of
view of the sports weekend. We call it love and hate.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What did you love?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
God? I love you?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
These?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Player?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Hater is.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Love love love hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. Okay,
it's these Let's start with you, Monsie. You're the uh
you love lots of stuff. You love life, especially, tell
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me what you love most of the weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
All right, there's actually a few things and I'm gonna
I'm gonna have to mention it one more time. I
know we've talked about it, but I really really loved
that cal Rawly is able to have a successful second
half of the season after participating in the home run derby,
not just because it is exciting when records are broken,
like that's what we want, just so people feel like, hey,
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there's always an opportunity that we can see history, right,
But in other sports we've seen like the All Star
Game and other sports kind of like continue to fall
and continue to produce a terrible product. And I feel
like baseball still has a fun home run Derby, a good,
you know, all star game that people participate in, but
the home run Derby, a lot of players are afraid
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to participate because we have seen the downfall in the
second half. So aside from records being broken, aside from
seeing cal Rawley do what a lot of people didn't think.
Like Jason, it's nice because now I'm hoping other big players,
other big stars in baseball that have not participated in
the home run Derby when they're hot, that they actually
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do it, that they're not afraid of it. Because if
a catcher can do it, a full time catcher that
is out there putting it in the work with those
legs up and down, squatting constantly, and Jason mentioned it's
not even that many games as a as a designated hitter,
Like now, there's really gonna be less excuses when we
come around for this next you know, home run Derby.
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That's what I really loved about the weekend. I'm excited
for cal Raley and you know what, he's not even done.
I wonder what the final number is going to be.
And that's gonna be another time where I bring this
back up, So until then, go cal Raley, Big Dumper.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Big, big Dumper, big Dumper.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Also the name of the what's the name of that
that country artist that you like? Is it Morgan something Morgan.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
F Morgan Waller?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, this weekend Kyle Rawley to me, will always sound
like a guy who opened for Morgan Walling.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You know, I will say. Also, big Dumper is the
best name that a baby can have on the back
of a Onesie like you know, if you give him
like a cal Raleigh like Onesie says big dump, that's
that's best.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Sorry, it's good, It is good, good, Okay, Jase.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Do thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. I
love the fact that Monsey brought up guys that are
reluctant to do the Home Run Derby because my love
today has to do a show. Hey Otani, who is
never participated Home Run Derby? I don't think you should.
I don't think you should. And yesterday was amazing. So
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I guess a Heckler was wearing them out right next
to the Dodger dugout And what do you do with
a Heckler that's been wearing you out for nine innings. Well,
you hit a home run in the ninth to cap
an eight to two win over your nemesis, and then
show Hey as opposed to most big leaguers who ignore
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the hecklers, and they walked to the dugout, show Hay
went over and gave him high five. That's what you
do to hecklers. You hit a home run, you shove
it in this face, and then you give them a
high five. Something maybe Jose al two they should have
done when a certain heckler did this in a ballgame recently?
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Is that what twenty seven stamps for the number one
pitches you saw coming to the te twenty seventeen postseason?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
H Is that what twenty seventh stamps for?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Answer me, Doug, You said this that wasn't too wordy, right?
It was very concise?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yes, it was. It was sharpest, concisest to the point.
I mean, I think everybody applauded your ability there to
talk trash in a super uncomfortable way. Yes, classic, Ryan,
What do you got? Would you let in the weekend?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
I love train wrecks, Doug, especially when they're self inflicted.
This Brown's quarterback situation is hilarious to me. Quarterbacks on
your roster. There was no reason for them to draft Sanders.
They're not gonna cut them. They're not gonna cut them,
I don't think so. And they're really gonna go into
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the season with four quarterbacks and it's just gonna be
a circus. The Browns just do this to themselves every
single year. There are just a bunch of idiots. And
I'm here for the whole car wreck. I love it.
That's what I love.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I'm with all the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's it's a lot, there's a lot going on there.
I'll tell you what I love. From the weekend, we
had an Elite camp, and you know, you use the
elite camp. You really want to show guys your campus,
your coaching staff, how you do things. And it gave
us a chance to evaluate some of the younger players
in the state. Especially I just there is a portion
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of the sport of college sports which is very much professionalized,
and it's about who can get me the most money?
How do I get the most money and then go
find somewhere else I can get the most money. And
that's again apparently okay by people. There's still something special
about offering a kid a scholarship and have it be
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meaningful to him. And I did that yesterday to two
young guys. It's not for twenty twenty six, and it
just still feels good. It still feels good, and it
still feels bad to not offer a scholarship to somebody
who you know wants to come and is close, but
you're like, you not actually helped me get to You're
not ready to help me get to work the destination
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we need. But still feels really really good. There still
is the kind of organic Hay, I've always wanted to
play at this place. Forget about money. I just love
that part of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
This is a I mean, that was an amazingly touching story.
So I don't want to downplay that, but I was
kind of hoping you would Your love today would be
what you did after that count, which was what I thought.
I saw you and Dan Byer on a course we
played at golf.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh I forgot that. Dan posted that. Yeah, so I
felt bad. So Dan's out there. So Dan's mom lives
like hour and forty minutes from from my country club,
right hour and forty minutes, so he he's like, hey,
you want to play. It's like, yeah, I'm done with camp.
I don't know three. Then I got to talk to parents,
probably done at four. So it was periodically downpouring and
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I'm like, well, there's no way Dan's gonna be year.
He's like no, but still here. So I was like,
all right, well, let's see if we can sneak in nine.
We went out there and I mean we had the
whole course to ourselves. It was it it's gonna warm
back up this weekend. But it was fall. It was beautiful.
We saw ten deer and two other golfers and he
played really well. I played decently well. It was fun.
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So yeah, that was That was a good part too, Ryan,
what'd you got already?
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Went Doug.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh, I'm sorry. Let's get to what we hated from
the weekend, Tilly he hated from the weekend with a
resident hater, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Yes, that is me. Let's see what did I hate
from the weekend? I hadn't locked and loaded. What was
my hate?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Do you remember.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
I'm not Charles Xavier. I can't read your mind.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Sorry, there was something that Joy Taylor said over the
weekend that did want to mention and I just think
that there's like, you know, five years ago, everybody lost
their mind right in twenty twenty, and then all of
a sudden we found out that on air what everybody's
politics was, and it was accepted and no one thought
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twice about it, and then it came and gone, and
it doesn't get enough attention for how unsightly it was.
But you know, Joy was very much a part of
the the liberal left and wokeness. And you know, every
marginalised group in the country needs to be spoken for,
especially people of privileged need to step up and say
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this margin wise group is well, how they look has
nothing to do with them, It's not their fault. And
then she goes on Cam Newton's podcast and calls Jason
Whitlock fat says that she's surprised that he's still alive
and that a coronary hasn't happened yet. I thought that
was a bit hypocritical, you think.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Plus, can you imagine if we said anything about her appearance,
or any woman's appearance, how that would go over that
it would go not well, I have to say this,
and I'll go more into it in the pod, But Monci,
I mean, I think she's done a lot of damage
to women in broadcasting here. She had high profile spots.
(10:52):
I'm not even going to get into the you know,
off Mike, what happened in the you know, the lawsuit stuff.
I wish she has not come out and denied, right.
I don't know enough about it. All I can tell
you is that that's not great for the perception of
women in the in the industry. And then, and here's
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the thing, MANSI, you would be honest and like you're
learning all the time about sports, right yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
If you every weekend went on like a went went
to some different resort and posted pictures and then Monday
came back and wanted to speak on authority about every
sport that was played over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah, you're saying mixed messages, right, Coruct, Yeah, you're saying,
and I totally understand that, and I agree with a
lot of what you're saying. I just it's unfortunate because
it does put a negative light. It does, And I
think it was more that I think she realized that
maybe she had other avenues of success she could dip
her toe in, and it did become like a mixed
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message like, am I am I supposed to go to
you for sports or are you now going to be
you know, a social media And there's nothing wrong with that,
But I just feel like she was just kind of
like trying to do a little bit too much maybe
and then getting mad when she didn't get the respect
that she thought she demanded.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Correct. So that's that's the part. The part is when
you chastise others, yeah, or not treating your opinions with
a proper amount of respect, and yet you clearly don't.
I actually think she's really smart. She knew she used
the sports to get in and she wanted to do
other stuff. Yeah, okay, fine, but don't like chastise us
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for people who not me, you know, people in the
media or whatever, fans who don't take your opinion seriously.
Not because you're a woman. I'm sure there are some
that's because you're a woman, but there's a greater portion
of like, hey, you know, you're putting out there on
social media. It's not like it's a private account and
you're literally never here, never going to sporting events, you know,
except when it's your nephew, Like that's it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Does damage MANSI, what what'd you hate for the weekend?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Oh, let me tell you. I hate is a strong word,
but very annoyed on the verge of hay. Let's say that,
I'm just Lebron James is in this middle of like
the NBA season is starting in two months. I don't
know if he's talked to DeAndre Ayton, Marcus Smart, has
he congratulated Luka Doncic. I don't know, but we know
that things are weird there and this guy thinks that
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we're just gonna see his tweets about golf and forget
the situation. Now, all of a sudden, you like golf
and you want to say, Tommy Fleet his tweet he
doesn't tweet about anything, and if yesterday like five tweets
about golf, and you're just like, why are you? Who
are you to now all of a sudden think we're
gonna go to you for golf or pretend you're he's
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he's pretending, and I'm just so over it. I'm just
so over it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You just don't like him.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Sometimes you just don't like, Yeah, it's like, what do you, Lebron?
Come on, man, don't say anything at all, don't see
anything at all here you are. You don't want us
to talk about you. Oh, let me tweet about Tommy Fleetwood.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Shut up, Lebron such a hater. Okay, what about you there?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Ryan?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
What do you got?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I hate it when people are giving a chance and
they blow the opportunity. Shiloh Sanders, what the hell were
you thinking?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Man?
Speaker 6 (14:34):
The final preseason game and you punch somebody. Dude, you're undrafted.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
They're gonna you Like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Man? That wasn't the worst part though. That wasn't the
worst part. The worst part was uh it was it.
Jordan Schultz was like, how can you throw them out
for this? This is ridiculous? Like, hey, Jordan, it's a
rule punch in the NFL, you get a and he
did it right in front of an official.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Yes, personally, I think they should let them fight. They
have pads on in a helmet. You're not gonna hurt anybody.
The only person that's gonna get hurt is the person
who's who's throwing the punch. But whatever, Chilo Sanders man,
like you ticked me off over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Don't really have to give credit to the guy that
he punched. I have no idea. Who this guy is, I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Going instigated him, kept pushing.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Him, Yeah, yeah, this receiver though.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
No this this seemed like the play was over and
he was still bothering him.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
In the moment he turns back and calls for the
penalty from the from the refs, gets gets the onslaught
of flags and then goes right to the too short
gesture right right away. I thought it was brilliant. It
was actually a really good rub it in gesture. And
then child was coming.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I'm with I'm with ja Jase too. It was a
very good rub it in.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
It was taunting, which was not called by the way.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I didn't like how the weekend. I mean like I
I hated how the weekend went for college football completely
according to plan. And I think, like I watched Fresno State,
and I have friends that are in the cal State system.
For people don't know, the UC system is UCLA Berkeley.
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For the cal State system, there's San Diego State, Long
Beach State, Fresno State, Cal State, Santislaws Fullerton which is
not Fullerton State.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
It'sself Stanislaus. What a deep poll. Cal State Stanislas won, Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But Fresno went and played Kansas. Kansas is not the
most invested in school. They put a bunch of money
into the new David Booth Football whatever Oriial Stadium. It's beautiful,
but they're they're they're trying to compete in the Big twelve,
which is a higher level than Fresno, and Fresno has
no money. And that's what it looked like. And I
think that's what a lot of these non conference games
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are going to look like. The big boys have so
much more money that it's not competitive and I hate it.
I hate it. But it's not that I hate Kansas winning.
It's just it wasn't really a competitive football game. And
that's love and hate.
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LESCo in a second. But look, I think that the
thing with the Micah Parsons deal is it's one thing
to do that I want to be traded. We've seen
that done. It's another thing to do the hold in.
Have seen that done when you start laying on massage
tables or training tables during a game and trying to
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draw attention to yourself because you're so bored. Like Micah
Parsons is a great football player, but that's the kind
of stuff that like a fifteen year old kid does.
Like you're a grown man. You're one of the elite
defensive players in the NFL, and I can tell you
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exactly what your teammates are saying when you're not around,
like wait, he's doing what what? Yeah? So you know,
I just think Parsons, this is part of the story,
not a h It is a bad thing, but it's
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not like a sinister thing. I just think he's super immature.
I just do. He's a great player, he's going to
be a boy. He's gonna sign He's gonna I play
all seventeen games. He's healthy. But that is a really
bad immature. Look. That's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
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Tom to LESCo eleven years GM with the Chargers San
Diego in LA and of course last year with the
Las Vegas Raiders kind of to spend some time with
us every week here on the show. Okay, first, let
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me just get to the actual performance in the game.
We did get the chance to see Flacco look good.
Dylan Gabriel came in, Shador struggled. We saw Snoopuntley before
he got before he got released. What was your assessment
of how the two rookie quarterbacks for the Browns play.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well? I agree with you. Dylan Gabriel looked looked good
for the second game in the row. He just he
can move the team, may quick decisions. He gets the
ball out of his hand quickly. He's got pretty good
zip for for a smaller quarterback. He's got good arm strength,
which you don't see all the time with a smaller quarterback.
But he looked similar to the way he looked in college,
and that was a positive and Shrador you know, didn't
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have his best day. He played much better that the
two games before. You know, he struggled there and and
I can see I think part of this developmental process
with him was not putting him out there for that
two minutes trial, just because some of the body language
coming off the field after two tough series just wasn't
what you'd expect. You don't want your quarterback to just
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walk off the field with his head down. There's there's
there's gonna be adversity, you know, down to down series
the series. You have to handle that as a quarterback.
So on the outside looking in, I was wondering if
this was Kevin Stephanis saying, hey, look this this is
a teaching moment for you as far as how you
handle the lows on the field. And we're gonna let
Snoop take this last drive. But I think you can
tell by the way it lined up. Obviously Flacko was
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the starter Dillan Gabriel. He was drafted above shador for
a reason. They must have had him ranked higher, and
he didn't show anything in the preseason that would lead
you to believe that he would drop in the Ducks charts.
You're looking at him as the two. I guess the three.
Can you take us the wild card? I don't know
how he fits in there right now because he just
didn't play a lot in the preseason.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Is he the two?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Is either three? Is he someone they would move? That
remains to be seen before Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I want to make sure I state I am not
putting it out there. I'll tell you my own feelings
in a second. I have seen other people and now
there are more former players than anything. Saying Stefanski is
basically sabotaging Shadoor right. Put him out there with Lineman
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he was going to cut and didn't let him be
the hero and play the two minutes drow which every
quarterback dreams of. Is there any scenario with it that's
a possibility.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Maybe great for sports talk radio, but not in reality. No,
that's not absolutely not. I mean he's first of all,
he's a very good head coach that has a good
track record on the offensive side of the ball. He
knows what he's looking at. He's also in a situation
where he has four quarterbacks. He's trying to get a
really good look at I know, you don't need as
much a look at Joe Flacco, you still want to
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make sure you know where he is performance level is.
So he had a tough challenge going into training camp.
They get four quarterbacks enough reps, not like to show
what they can do, but to help them develop. So
he knows what he's doing. And yeah, no he's not
out there sabotaging anything. It's just you only get so
many series, and I do think he's just trying to
teach these guys. And he had a rough series, had
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a rough couple of series there. He has some great series.
You know, in the first preseason game, you're going to
have up and downs as a rookie quarterback. That's just
part of life and part of life and professional football
is learning how to deal with that because when you're
the quarterback, not only does everybody out of the fans
and media looking at you, your teammates are looking at you.
So you know, just you don't want to see your
quarterback just walking off the field after a series. You're
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walking off with his head down. That's I think he
was more a teaching moment than anything else.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Does all of this noise surrounding should dour does Does
this make it if the Browns thing doesn't work, Does
it make it less likely somebody else picks him up.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
That's a good point, just because I want to say no.
But then you know he was also drafted in the
fifth round. I think some of that was just due
to the noise people were worried about coming in. But
the bottom line is he has starter talent in the NFL.
Is he ready for prime time? Probably not ready quite yet,
but he has starter talent. He's got good enough arm strength,
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He's got good feel in the pocket that I get
some time more on the inconsistent level, but he can
feel a rush, you can get the ball out of
his hands, and he's ptively accurate. So he has some
skills there. He's put a lot of a lot of
staffs in college football, but he has to adapt to
the NFL game. It's going to take some time. Certainly
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somebody would give an opportunity somewhere else. How many teams would,
I'm not sure just because what I said, Like he
was dropped from the fifth round and really his talent
level said he should have gone higher. So that probably
some teams that may be skirted off by that, but
I think the smarter teams to see a potential, you know,
potential starter down the road. Maybe not right now, but
down the road is something you have to take a
look at.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Is Anthony Richardson done in Indy? Well?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I mean he's had plenty of opportunities there. They say
he's not, and I do believe them. They've been loyal
to their players, They've been loyal to him and give
them opportunities. But he may be a situation that other
first round pick quarterbacks have fallen into, just like Daniel
Jones with the Giants. He may need a change of scenery.
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That's never a bad thing, and that could come up.
And if you look how being Jones handed his process,
he handle it really well. He was released during the
season from the Giants. It just didn't work out. You know,
a lot of options at that point, including me. I
was trying to sign him to come to the active
roster with the Raiders so he'd give us another option
as the starting quarterback. And he decided to sign on
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the practice squad with the Vikings to kind of rehabilitate,
learn a little bit from Kevin O'Connell, kind of get
his kind of settle his career down a little bit,
and then be a free agent at the end of
the year and pick where to go to go compete
for a job. He picked the right spot once the
Colts competed for a job and won the job. So
Richardson could be in that same boat eventually. But I
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do believe it when they say that he'll get another
opportunity there. He's got a lot of talent. His ceilings
really high. It's just the consistency level. It's just really
low right now. And it's no different than what he
showed in college. There were high, very high high and
low lows, and you're seeing the same thing at this level.
And there are also injuries at the college level, so
you're seeing a lot of the same things. But I
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think he'll get another opportunity there to show what he
can do, and I wouldn't be surprised if it comes
this year. With Daniel Jones, we don't know how he's
going to play. He's gonna be the Daniel Jones of
Beables first year or the last couple of years. He's
also had some injury, so there's a good chance at
some point Richardson plays again.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
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Was there anything numbers wise that was so alarming that
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it should have taken this long?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I guess we'll find out down the road. I mean
up to ninety six billion. It could mean a lot
of different things, so we'll see when the numbers come in.
My guess is when it's all said and done, he'll
be right in that top ten range, not necessarily the
top five, but top ten, which I think is a
good spot. You'll get some nice deserved raise. Was it
worth the hold in? I don't know. I don't know
(27:02):
how the negotiations for it back and forth, but he's
gets a pretty good raise and he's got two weeks
to get ready to play. That's the only thing I'm
concerned about. As a receiver, And because he didn't have
a full off season program, he was rehabbing an ankle
injury and then no training camp receivers obviously the high
volume running position, and you know how many staffs will
(27:24):
he be able to play opening day? I mean, certainly
in conditioning shape. It's just a difference between conditioning shape
and football shape. But really glad it got done. This
was the point where, in the same thing with the
Hendrickson deal, they need to get done now to get
ready for opening day. But there's some deadlines coming up
the kind and they can kind of spur that. But
I think the numbers are kind of come in where
(27:44):
we expected, which be right around the top ten toms.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Let's go our guest here on the Doug Gottlib Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What do you do with Micaeh Parsons?
Like it's one thing to ask to be traded and
go through all this sort of thing like laying down
on the massage table during a game, just generally acting
like an ass right, Like, what what do you do there?
(28:08):
If you're in charge of the Cowboys, how do you
how do you handle that?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
This is this is real theater, you know, from the
outside looking in, it's totally different than the McLaurin and
Hendrickson holdouts. Yeah, the laying on the table not the
look you're looking for. Whether you're laying on the table
for thirty seconds or thirty minutes, it's just not the
look you're looking for. First off, They're just you have
to have communication between yourself and the agent. And I
(28:33):
just think in this situation, until the agent is part
of the process, I just don't see the deal getting done.
And I know every team does it different ways. I
know the Cowboys have done in different ways, but in
this situation, until there's direct communications and negotiation with the agent,
I just don't see anything getting done. Now, the big
thing is we move into that cut the fifty three
(28:54):
and get ready for opening Day. You know, if you're
holding out and you're not there any don't play in
the game. Obviously you wouldn't make your your base salaries
for that week. But if you're holding in, you're on
the active roster, and if you don't play in the game,
then the club would still owe you and his you know,
for him it'd be over a million dollars, to be
one point three million dollars for that game. I see
(29:17):
no way the Cowboys are going to pay one point
three million to not play in the game. So something
has to break here, whether it's to get the deal
done or it's there's conduct detrimental for refusing to play,
and then you can either you can find the player,
you can suspend him. Something's going to have to happen
because he's on the active roster. He's due to be
paid week one right now, even though he's not going
(29:38):
to play. So I'd be shocked in the next seven
days if there wasn't some movement one way or another.
But it has to start with communication on both sides,
and you know, more so on the Cowboys side.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
It sounds like, well Stug gotlib show here on Fox
Sports Radio. How far away is Jackson dart Well.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I'm a big Jackson Dark fans from the draft and
then watching the preseason that I haven't changed my mind.
So yeah, I think he could go in and play
right now at what level. He would take some lumps,
I mean just it's natural as a rookie quarterback. But
I think he could play right now. But it's also
not a bad thing that he sits and waits. I mean,
(30:19):
it's different for every quarterback. It's different for every situation.
I think Brian Dable definitely He's going to pick the
quarterback that he feels right now has gives him the
best chance to win opening Day. He feels like, right
now it's Russell Wilson. But I think if the time comes,
whether it's September, October, November, December, I think Jackson'll be
ready to go. I'm ready to play.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Matt Stafford starting to come, Like how do you handle that?
Where you just you have no idea? I mean, I
guess you got Garoppolo, who's you led a team to
a super Bowl? But how do you handle that in
terms of how much you invest in Stafford in real time?
Right Like obviously I'm not talking contractually, but yeah, what what?
(31:04):
How do you how do you handle the Stafford thing?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I for you're the Rams, Well, it's literally going to
be day by day, and it sound like it's getting
better day by day. But as a lot of us know,
with back injuries and that, and if it has effects
to your nerves, you know, sometimes the rehab process and
the strength it comes very slowly, and so they have
(31:27):
to kind of gradually start moving them in. But you
have to also have a plan B with with Garoppolo
in case Stafford is not ready to play, so probably
in practice with your ones, probably the backup quarterback Garppolo
in this case, you probably take more snaps than he
usually would to get him ready in case he has
to play, which is completely fine because Stafford probably you
(31:49):
probably don't want to have him take every snap right
now in practice. So they've got thirteen fourteen days ago
before opening day, still have some time. But essentially, if
you're the coach, you know you really have to get
two quarterbacks ready to play since just you know, back
range back injuries are unpredictable. I know he has missed.
He hasn't missed very much time in his career, but
he's had back injuries in the past, and you know,
(32:11):
the older you get, it doesn't get better. So don't
have a plan for both. But in practice you're certainly
going to work. Both quarterbacks are good amount.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
He's the one and only tom te LESCo. Of course,
what does he know. He's only been in professional football
his entire professional life and been a gentle manager for
twelve years in the National Football League. Last thing, Tommy,
do you like this system where it's basically like one
big cutdown or did you like the old system better?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So I like this better because he gives every player
a chance to compete for a job. The only hard
part about it was administratively releasing thirty seven players over
a day or two.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's just it's just.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
A lot of work. You want to spend enough time
with each player on his way out, just as a
courtesy to talk to him about what he did about
career options moving forward, that sort of things. You want
to make sure you take the right time the head
coach to physician coaches. So there's a lot of time involved.
But I like the one cut because because everybody get
a chance to show what they can do for the
(33:17):
certainly for the third preseason game, you have a really
good chance to play your young guys. If you're a
team that doesn't want to play their starters. It gives
you enough players to play the third preseason game and
give every player, especially college free agents, that when you
sign the MAC for the draft, part of the recruiting
process is we're going to give you the whole offseason program.
We're gona give you all training camp in three preseason
games to show us what you can do. And guys
(33:39):
need that, and so I like this. It's just administratively
over a two day span. It's just a lot of
players to let go of. Now you know, roughly half
will come back on practice squads. But you know, it's
a process. Not fun really from players obviously, but the
process itself of building that initial fifty three is a
very enjoyable process.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
He's time Toe LESCo. He's built the original fifty three
as the Gentleman, as a gentlemnager for twelve twelve different years,
and just love having you on, love soaking up that knowledge. Tom,
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
We'll talk next week, all right, dog done good? Thank you.
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the press, monsie, what you got, all right, coach, We're
gonna start with college football, as Sharon More, who is
the head coach of Michigan, announced today that they're going
to go with true freshman Bryce Underwood to be their
starting quarterback.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Bryce Underwood will be a starting quarterback. I'll confirm that.
You know, he's he's earned the opportunity. It was not
given to him. All the other quarterbacks had a really
good camp as well. You know, really thought Jaydon Davis
has really come along and taken the next steps. He'll
be the two behind him, and he's done a really
good job. But Bryce took the necessary steps and really
(35:28):
took the position, you know, took the ownership of his
abilities and took ownership with the team and became a
leader on the team and a guy that guys looked to.
So you know, just did the things the right way
and used his skill and never tried to do too
much for a young guy, very mature beyond his years
and he's still only eighteen years old.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Now, let's not forget the story of Underwood that he
was supposed to go to LSU and then the story
is that Michigan kind of just stoffered him more money.
The number is that LSU was trying to do about
one point five million a year for about four years,
and it looks like Michigan there's no real number, but
it's about three million. So they kind of doubled it
poached him away from LSU.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So here they are three million a year or three
million total.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Three million a year. They think it's about twelve point five.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, and again these are like Front Office Sports says
it's twelve point five, but that they like this is.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
You know, listen, I'm just gonna tell you Monsie, like,
don't believe anything you're read. No, I'm sure within within scale. Again,
I'm not saying that absolutely positively, No way he's getting
that money. I'm saying that. I just again I wouldn't believe.
It's a lot of money for guys never played a snap. Yeah,
(36:44):
to have that much of a multi year deal, absolutely,
that's a lot of money. And it also is why
like I like Alabama kind of starting sort of a
no name guy's been there for a couple of years,
probably doesn't make a bunch of money. It's like the
Brock party thing right where you're like, well, you don't
spend a bunch of mone quarterback, but everybody else makes money, now,
you know, so you have a better roster. I can
(37:06):
only tell you it's like we have guys. Every one
of my team gets compensated above that of a scholarship
on some level. That's how we've chosen to do it.
But in no way are we in the ballpark of
what people say about other teams or even about my team.
It's just they everybody in plate stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Totally, totally all right. A little fantasy football news here
actually for your show, Doug. The Texans announced that Joe
Mixon is not going to be activated prior to tomorrow's
for PM Eastern deadline, so he's out for at least
the first four games of the regular season. There's not
a lot of information, but he's dealing with an ankle
injury and the rehab hasn't gone exactly the way they thought.
(37:45):
So for those that haven't drafted, I unfortunately have already drafted.
I did to yesterday. This is who the Texans have
for their running back group. Nick Chubb, Damian Pierce, dare
ugumbaal A, Woody Marks, British Brooks and Jehar Jordan. I
don't know who that is, but that is who they have.
So if you have not drafted in your fantasy football
(38:05):
know that Joe mix In will not be available for
at least the first four weeks of the regular season.
And I don't know if I would hold my breath
that he's gonna be back week five. The way I'm
reading into the stories of his ankle in this rehab,
that's not going the way they thought.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Week one is not until what a week September four? Yeah,
but that's not eing gonna be a good game. Cowboys Eagles,
that'll be a stomping. And then Chargers Kansas City that's
down in uh in Brazil. So yeah, did you have
to do the accent thing?
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That does not.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I mean, you're such a show up.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
That's the press, get out there and pressed.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That was, Hey tomorrow, we're gonna do all predictions. I'm kidding, Okay.
Jason's like wait what, Like, We're never ever gonna do predictions.
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know you could download, subscribe, rate and listen to your
boy wherever you go. We do this every Monday. It's
a great way of kind of getting different points of
view of the sports weekend. We call it love and hate.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What did you love?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
God? I love you?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
These?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Player?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Hater is.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Love love love hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. Okay,
it's these Let's start with you, Monsie. You're the uh
you love lots of stuff. You love life, especially, tell
(01:49):
me what you love most of the weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
All right, there's actually a few things and I'm gonna
I'm gonna have to mention it one more time. I
know we've talked about it, but I really really loved
that cal Rawly is able to have a successful second
half of the season after participating in the home run derby,
not just because it is exciting when records are broken,
like that's what we want, just so people feel like, hey,
(02:13):
there's always an opportunity that we can see history, right,
But in other sports we've seen like the All Star
Game and other sports kind of like continue to fall
and continue to produce a terrible product. And I feel
like baseball still has a fun home run Derby, a good,
you know, all star game that people participate in, but
the home run Derby, a lot of players are afraid
(02:34):
to participate because we have seen the downfall in the
second half. So aside from records being broken, aside from
seeing cal Rawley do what a lot of people didn't think.
Like Jason, it's nice because now I'm hoping other big players,
other big stars in baseball that have not participated in
the home run Derby when they're hot, that they actually
(02:54):
do it, that they're not afraid of it. Because if
a catcher can do it, a full time catcher that
is out there putting it in the work with those
legs up and down, squatting constantly, and Jason mentioned it's
not even that many games as a as a designated hitter,
Like now, there's really gonna be less excuses when we
come around for this next you know, home run Derby.
(03:15):
That's what I really loved about the weekend. I'm excited
for cal Raley and you know what, he's not even done.
I wonder what the final number is going to be.
And that's gonna be another time where I bring this
back up, So until then, go cal Raley, Big Dumper.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Big, big Dumper, big Dumper.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Also the name of the what's the name of that
that country artist that you like? Is it Morgan something Morgan.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
F Morgan Waller?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, this weekend Kyle Rawley to me, will always sound
like a guy who opened for Morgan Walling.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You know, I will say. Also, big Dumper is the
best name that a baby can have on the back
of a Onesie like you know, if you give him
like a cal Raleigh like Onesie says big dump, that's
that's best.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Sorry, it's good, It is good, good, Okay, Jase.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Do thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. I
love the fact that Monsey brought up guys that are
reluctant to do the Home Run Derby because my love
today has to do a show. Hey Otani, who is
never participated Home Run Derby? I don't think you should.
I don't think you should. And yesterday was amazing. So
(04:33):
I guess a Heckler was wearing them out right next
to the Dodger dugout And what do you do with
a Heckler that's been wearing you out for nine innings. Well,
you hit a home run in the ninth to cap
an eight to two win over your nemesis, and then
show Hey as opposed to most big leaguers who ignore
(04:54):
the hecklers, and they walked to the dugout, show Hay
went over and gave him high five. That's what you
do to hecklers. You hit a home run, you shove
it in this face, and then you give them a
high five. Something maybe Jose al two they should have
done when a certain heckler did this in a ballgame recently?
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Is that what twenty seven stamps for the number one
pitches you saw coming to the te twenty seventeen postseason?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
H Is that what twenty seventh stamps for?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Answer me, Doug, You said this that wasn't too wordy, right?
It was very concise?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yes, it was. It was sharpest, concisest to the point.
I mean, I think everybody applauded your ability there to
talk trash in a super uncomfortable way. Yes, classic, Ryan,
What do you got? Would you let in the weekend?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
I love train wrecks, Doug, especially when they're self inflicted.
This Brown's quarterback situation is hilarious to me. Quarterbacks on
your roster. There was no reason for them to draft Sanders.
They're not gonna cut them. They're not gonna cut them,
I don't think so. And they're really gonna go into
(06:11):
the season with four quarterbacks and it's just gonna be
a circus. The Browns just do this to themselves every
single year. There are just a bunch of idiots. And
I'm here for the whole car wreck. I love it.
That's what I love.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I'm with all the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's it's a lot, there's a lot going on there.
I'll tell you what I love. From the weekend, we
had an Elite camp, and you know, you use the
elite camp. You really want to show guys your campus,
your coaching staff, how you do things. And it gave
us a chance to evaluate some of the younger players
in the state. Especially I just there is a portion
(06:56):
of the sport of college sports which is very much professionalized,
and it's about who can get me the most money?
How do I get the most money and then go
find somewhere else I can get the most money. And
that's again apparently okay by people. There's still something special
about offering a kid a scholarship and have it be
(07:18):
meaningful to him. And I did that yesterday to two
young guys. It's not for twenty twenty six, and it
just still feels good. It still feels good, and it
still feels bad to not offer a scholarship to somebody
who you know wants to come and is close, but
you're like, you not actually helped me get to You're
not ready to help me get to work the destination
(07:39):
we need. But still feels really really good. There still
is the kind of organic Hay, I've always wanted to
play at this place. Forget about money. I just love
that part of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
This is a I mean, that was an amazingly touching story.
So I don't want to downplay that, but I was
kind of hoping you would Your love today would be
what you did after that count, which was what I thought.
I saw you and Dan Byer on a course we
played at golf.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh I forgot that. Dan posted that. Yeah, so I
felt bad. So Dan's out there. So Dan's mom lives
like hour and forty minutes from from my country club,
right hour and forty minutes, so he he's like, hey,
you want to play. It's like, yeah, I'm done with camp.
I don't know three. Then I got to talk to parents,
probably done at four. So it was periodically downpouring and
(08:31):
I'm like, well, there's no way Dan's gonna be year.
He's like no, but still here. So I was like,
all right, well, let's see if we can sneak in nine.
We went out there and I mean we had the
whole course to ourselves. It was it it's gonna warm
back up this weekend. But it was fall. It was beautiful.
We saw ten deer and two other golfers and he
played really well. I played decently well. It was fun.
(08:53):
So yeah, that was That was a good part too, Ryan,
what'd you got already?
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Went Doug.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Oh, I'm sorry. Let's get to what we hated from
the weekend, Tilly he hated from the weekend with a
resident hater, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Yes, that is me. Let's see what did I hate
from the weekend? I hadn't locked and loaded. What was
my hate?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Do you remember.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
I'm not Charles Xavier. I can't read your mind.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Sorry, there was something that Joy Taylor said over the
weekend that did want to mention and I just think
that there's like, you know, five years ago, everybody lost
their mind right in twenty twenty, and then all of
a sudden we found out that on air what everybody's
politics was, and it was accepted and no one thought
(09:49):
twice about it, and then it came and gone, and
it doesn't get enough attention for how unsightly it was.
But you know, Joy was very much a part of
the the liberal left and wokeness. And you know, every
marginalised group in the country needs to be spoken for,
especially people of privileged need to step up and say
(10:11):
this margin wise group is well, how they look has
nothing to do with them, It's not their fault. And
then she goes on Cam Newton's podcast and calls Jason
Whitlock fat says that she's surprised that he's still alive
and that a coronary hasn't happened yet. I thought that
was a bit hypocritical, you think.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Plus, can you imagine if we said anything about her appearance,
or any woman's appearance, how that would go over that
it would go not well, I have to say this,
and I'll go more into it in the pod, But Monci,
I mean, I think she's done a lot of damage
to women in broadcasting here. She had high profile spots.
(10:52):
I'm not even going to get into the you know,
off Mike, what happened in the you know, the lawsuit stuff.
I wish she has not come out and denied, right.
I don't know enough about it. All I can tell
you is that that's not great for the perception of
women in the in the industry. And then, and here's
(11:14):
the thing, MANSI, you would be honest and like you're
learning all the time about sports, right yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
If you every weekend went on like a went went
to some different resort and posted pictures and then Monday
came back and wanted to speak on authority about every
sport that was played over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah, you're saying mixed messages, right, Coruct, Yeah, you're saying,
and I totally understand that, and I agree with a
lot of what you're saying. I just it's unfortunate because
it does put a negative light. It does, And I
think it was more that I think she realized that
maybe she had other avenues of success she could dip
her toe in, and it did become like a mixed
(12:04):
message like, am I am I supposed to go to
you for sports or are you now going to be
you know, a social media And there's nothing wrong with that,
But I just feel like she was just kind of
like trying to do a little bit too much maybe
and then getting mad when she didn't get the respect
that she thought she demanded.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Correct. So that's that's the part. The part is when
you chastise others, yeah, or not treating your opinions with
a proper amount of respect, and yet you clearly don't.
I actually think she's really smart. She knew she used
the sports to get in and she wanted to do
other stuff. Yeah, okay, fine, but don't like chastise us
(12:44):
for people who not me, you know, people in the
media or whatever, fans who don't take your opinion seriously.
Not because you're a woman. I'm sure there are some
that's because you're a woman, but there's a greater portion
of like, hey, you know, you're putting out there on
social media. It's not like it's a private account and
you're literally never here, never going to sporting events, you know,
except when it's your nephew, Like that's it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Does damage MANSI, what what'd you hate for the weekend?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Oh, let me tell you. I hate is a strong word,
but very annoyed on the verge of hay. Let's say that,
I'm just Lebron James is in this middle of like
the NBA season is starting in two months. I don't
know if he's talked to DeAndre Ayton, Marcus Smart, has
he congratulated Luka Doncic. I don't know, but we know
that things are weird there and this guy thinks that
(13:33):
we're just gonna see his tweets about golf and forget
the situation. Now, all of a sudden, you like golf
and you want to say, Tommy Fleet his tweet he
doesn't tweet about anything, and if yesterday like five tweets
about golf, and you're just like, why are you? Who
are you to now all of a sudden think we're
gonna go to you for golf or pretend you're he's
(13:54):
he's pretending, and I'm just so over it. I'm just
so over it.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You just don't like him.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Sometimes you just don't like, Yeah, it's like, what do you, Lebron?
Come on, man, don't say anything at all, don't see
anything at all here you are. You don't want us
to talk about you. Oh, let me tweet about Tommy Fleetwood.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Shut up, Lebron such a hater. Okay, what about you there?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Ryan?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
What do you got?
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I hate it when people are giving a chance and
they blow the opportunity. Shiloh Sanders, what the hell were
you thinking?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Man?
Speaker 6 (14:34):
The final preseason game and you punch somebody. Dude, you're undrafted.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
They're gonna you Like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Man? That wasn't the worst part though. That wasn't the
worst part. The worst part was uh it was it.
Jordan Schultz was like, how can you throw them out
for this? This is ridiculous? Like, hey, Jordan, it's a
rule punch in the NFL, you get a and he
did it right in front of an official.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Yes, personally, I think they should let them fight. They
have pads on in a helmet. You're not gonna hurt anybody.
The only person that's gonna get hurt is the person
who's who's throwing the punch. But whatever, Chilo Sanders man,
like you ticked me off over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Don't really have to give credit to the guy that
he punched. I have no idea. Who this guy is, I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Going instigated him, kept pushing.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Him, Yeah, yeah, this receiver though.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
No this this seemed like the play was over and
he was still bothering him.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
In the moment he turns back and calls for the
penalty from the from the refs, gets gets the onslaught
of flags and then goes right to the too short
gesture right right away. I thought it was brilliant. It
was actually a really good rub it in gesture. And
then child was coming.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I'm with I'm with ja Jase too. It was a
very good rub it in.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
It was taunting, which was not called by the way.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I didn't like how the weekend. I mean like I
I hated how the weekend went for college football completely
according to plan. And I think, like I watched Fresno State,
and I have friends that are in the cal State system.
For people don't know, the UC system is UCLA Berkeley.
(16:18):
For the cal State system, there's San Diego State, Long
Beach State, Fresno State, Cal State, Santislaws Fullerton which is
not Fullerton State.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
It'sself Stanislaus. What a deep poll. Cal State Stanislas won, Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But Fresno went and played Kansas. Kansas is not the
most invested in school. They put a bunch of money
into the new David Booth Football whatever Oriial Stadium. It's beautiful,
but they're they're they're trying to compete in the Big twelve,
which is a higher level than Fresno, and Fresno has
no money. And that's what it looked like. And I
think that's what a lot of these non conference games
(16:54):
are going to look like. The big boys have so
much more money that it's not competitive and I hate it.
I hate it. But it's not that I hate Kansas winning.
It's just it wasn't really a competitive football game. And
that's love and hate.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
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(17:48):
LESCo in a second. But look, I think that the
thing with the Micah Parsons deal is it's one thing
to do that I want to be traded. We've seen
that done. It's another thing to do the hold in.
Have seen that done when you start laying on massage
tables or training tables during a game and trying to
(18:10):
draw attention to yourself because you're so bored. Like Micah
Parsons is a great football player, but that's the kind
of stuff that like a fifteen year old kid does.
Like you're a grown man. You're one of the elite
defensive players in the NFL, and I can tell you
(18:30):
exactly what your teammates are saying when you're not around,
like wait, he's doing what what? Yeah? So you know,
I just think Parsons, this is part of the story,
not a h It is a bad thing, but it's
(18:51):
not like a sinister thing. I just think he's super immature.
I just do. He's a great player, he's going to
be a boy. He's gonna sign He's gonna I play
all seventeen games. He's healthy. But that is a really
bad immature. Look. That's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. This is the only show that brings
(19:13):
you guys that actually truly know what they're talking about.
Other shows do, but we make sure we have the
most reputable people, especially in football. No one better than
Tom to LESCo eleven years GM with the Chargers San
Diego in LA and of course last year with the
Las Vegas Raiders kind of to spend some time with
us every week here on the show. Okay, first, let
(19:33):
me just get to the actual performance in the game.
We did get the chance to see Flacco look good.
Dylan Gabriel came in, Shador struggled. We saw Snoopuntley before
he got before he got released. What was your assessment
of how the two rookie quarterbacks for the Browns play.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well? I agree with you. Dylan Gabriel looked looked good
for the second game in the row. He just he
can move the team, may quick decisions. He gets the
ball out of his hand quickly. He's got pretty good
zip for for a smaller quarterback. He's got good arm strength,
which you don't see all the time with a smaller quarterback.
But he looked similar to the way he looked in college,
and that was a positive and Shrador you know, didn't
(20:16):
have his best day. He played much better that the
two games before. You know, he struggled there and and
I can see I think part of this developmental process
with him was not putting him out there for that
two minutes trial, just because some of the body language
coming off the field after two tough series just wasn't
what you'd expect. You don't want your quarterback to just
(20:37):
walk off the field with his head down. There's there's
there's gonna be adversity, you know, down to down series
the series. You have to handle that as a quarterback.
So on the outside looking in, I was wondering if
this was Kevin Stephanis saying, hey, look this this is
a teaching moment for you as far as how you
handle the lows on the field. And we're gonna let
Snoop take this last drive. But I think you can
tell by the way it lined up. Obviously Flacko was
(20:59):
the starter Dillan Gabriel. He was drafted above shador for
a reason. They must have had him ranked higher, and
he didn't show anything in the preseason that would lead
you to believe that he would drop in the Ducks charts.
You're looking at him as the two. I guess the three.
Can you take us the wild card? I don't know
how he fits in there right now because he just
didn't play a lot in the preseason.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Is he the two?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Is either three? Is he someone they would move? That
remains to be seen before Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I want to make sure I state I am not
putting it out there. I'll tell you my own feelings
in a second. I have seen other people and now
there are more former players than anything. Saying Stefanski is
basically sabotaging Shadoor right. Put him out there with Lineman
(21:49):
he was going to cut and didn't let him be
the hero and play the two minutes drow which every
quarterback dreams of. Is there any scenario with it that's
a possibility.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Maybe great for sports talk radio, but not in reality. No,
that's not absolutely not. I mean he's first of all,
he's a very good head coach that has a good
track record on the offensive side of the ball. He
knows what he's looking at. He's also in a situation
where he has four quarterbacks. He's trying to get a
really good look at I know, you don't need as
much a look at Joe Flacco, you still want to
(22:23):
make sure you know where he is performance level is.
So he had a tough challenge going into training camp.
They get four quarterbacks enough reps, not like to show
what they can do, but to help them develop. So
he knows what he's doing. And yeah, no he's not
out there sabotaging anything. It's just you only get so
many series, and I do think he's just trying to
teach these guys. And he had a rough series, had
(22:46):
a rough couple of series there. He has some great series.
You know, in the first preseason game, you're going to
have up and downs as a rookie quarterback. That's just
part of life and part of life and professional football
is learning how to deal with that because when you're
the quarterback, not only does everybody out of the fans
and media looking at you, your teammates are looking at you.
So you know, just you don't want to see your
quarterback just walking off the field after a series. You're
(23:08):
walking off with his head down. That's I think he
was more a teaching moment than anything else.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Does all of this noise surrounding should dour does Does
this make it if the Browns thing doesn't work, Does
it make it less likely somebody else picks him up.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
That's a good point, just because I want to say no.
But then you know he was also drafted in the
fifth round. I think some of that was just due
to the noise people were worried about coming in. But
the bottom line is he has starter talent in the NFL.
Is he ready for prime time? Probably not ready quite yet,
but he has starter talent. He's got good enough arm strength,
(23:50):
He's got good feel in the pocket that I get
some time more on the inconsistent level, but he can
feel a rush, you can get the ball out of
his hands, and he's ptively accurate. So he has some
skills there. He's put a lot of a lot of
staffs in college football, but he has to adapt to
the NFL game. It's going to take some time. Certainly
(24:10):
somebody would give an opportunity somewhere else. How many teams would,
I'm not sure just because what I said, Like he
was dropped from the fifth round and really his talent
level said he should have gone higher. So that probably
some teams that may be skirted off by that, but
I think the smarter teams to see a potential, you know,
potential starter down the road. Maybe not right now, but
down the road is something you have to take a
look at.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Is Anthony Richardson done in Indy? Well?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I mean he's had plenty of opportunities there. They say
he's not, and I do believe them. They've been loyal
to their players, They've been loyal to him and give
them opportunities. But he may be a situation that other
first round pick quarterbacks have fallen into, just like Daniel
Jones with the Giants. He may need a change of scenery.
(24:55):
That's never a bad thing, and that could come up.
And if you look how being Jones handed his process,
he handle it really well. He was released during the
season from the Giants. It just didn't work out. You know,
a lot of options at that point, including me. I
was trying to sign him to come to the active
roster with the Raiders so he'd give us another option
as the starting quarterback. And he decided to sign on
(25:16):
the practice squad with the Vikings to kind of rehabilitate,
learn a little bit from Kevin O'Connell, kind of get
his kind of settle his career down a little bit,
and then be a free agent at the end of
the year and pick where to go to go compete
for a job. He picked the right spot once the
Colts competed for a job and won the job. So
Richardson could be in that same boat eventually. But I
(25:37):
do believe it when they say that he'll get another
opportunity there. He's got a lot of talent. His ceilings
really high. It's just the consistency level. It's just really
low right now. And it's no different than what he
showed in college. There were high, very high high and
low lows, and you're seeing the same thing at this level.
And there are also injuries at the college level, so
you're seeing a lot of the same things. But I
(25:59):
think he'll get another opportunity there to show what he
can do, and I wouldn't be surprised if it comes
this year. With Daniel Jones, we don't know how he's
going to play. He's gonna be the Daniel Jones of
Beables first year or the last couple of years. He's
also had some injury, so there's a good chance at
some point Richardson plays again.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of Tom te LESCo, of course, longtime chhot manager
of the La Chargers. Last year show manager of the
Las Vegas Raiders, H Terry McLaurin. That deal finally gets done.
Was there anything numbers wise that was so alarming that
(26:39):
it should have taken this long?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I guess we'll find out down the road. I mean
up to ninety six billion. It could mean a lot
of different things, so we'll see when the numbers come in.
My guess is when it's all said and done, he'll
be right in that top ten range, not necessarily the
top five, but top ten, which I think is a
good spot. You'll get some nice deserved raise. Was it
worth the hold in? I don't know. I don't know
(27:02):
how the negotiations for it back and forth, but he's
gets a pretty good raise and he's got two weeks
to get ready to play. That's the only thing I'm
concerned about. As a receiver, And because he didn't have
a full off season program, he was rehabbing an ankle
injury and then no training camp receivers obviously the high
volume running position, and you know how many staffs will
(27:24):
he be able to play opening day? I mean, certainly
in conditioning shape. It's just a difference between conditioning shape
and football shape. But really glad it got done. This
was the point where, in the same thing with the
Hendrickson deal, they need to get done now to get
ready for opening day. But there's some deadlines coming up
the kind and they can kind of spur that. But
I think the numbers are kind of come in where
(27:44):
we expected, which be right around the top ten toms.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Let's go our guest here on the Doug Gottlib Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What do you do with Micaeh Parsons?
Like it's one thing to ask to be traded and
go through all this sort of thing like laying down
on the massage table during a game, just generally acting
like an ass right, Like, what what do you do there?
(28:08):
If you're in charge of the Cowboys, how do you
how do you handle that?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
This is this is real theater, you know, from the
outside looking in, it's totally different than the McLaurin and
Hendrickson holdouts. Yeah, the laying on the table not the
look you're looking for. Whether you're laying on the table
for thirty seconds or thirty minutes, it's just not the
look you're looking for. First off, They're just you have
to have communication between yourself and the agent. And I
(28:33):
just think in this situation, until the agent is part
of the process, I just don't see the deal getting done.
And I know every team does it different ways. I
know the Cowboys have done in different ways, but in
this situation, until there's direct communications and negotiation with the agent,
I just don't see anything getting done. Now, the big
thing is we move into that cut the fifty three
(28:54):
and get ready for opening Day. You know, if you're
holding out and you're not there any don't play in
the game. Obviously you wouldn't make your your base salaries
for that week. But if you're holding in, you're on
the active roster, and if you don't play in the game,
then the club would still owe you and his you know,
for him it'd be over a million dollars, to be
one point three million dollars for that game. I see
(29:17):
no way the Cowboys are going to pay one point
three million to not play in the game. So something
has to break here, whether it's to get the deal
done or it's there's conduct detrimental for refusing to play,
and then you can either you can find the player,
you can suspend him. Something's going to have to happen
because he's on the active roster. He's due to be
paid week one right now, even though he's not going
(29:38):
to play. So I'd be shocked in the next seven
days if there wasn't some movement one way or another.
But it has to start with communication on both sides,
and you know, more so on the Cowboys side.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
It sounds like, well Stug gotlib show here on Fox
Sports Radio. How far away is Jackson dart Well.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I'm a big Jackson Dark fans from the draft and
then watching the preseason that I haven't changed my mind.
So yeah, I think he could go in and play
right now at what level. He would take some lumps,
I mean just it's natural as a rookie quarterback. But
I think he could play right now. But it's also
not a bad thing that he sits and waits. I mean,
(30:19):
it's different for every quarterback. It's different for every situation.
I think Brian Dable definitely He's going to pick the
quarterback that he feels right now has gives him the
best chance to win opening Day. He feels like, right
now it's Russell Wilson. But I think if the time comes,
whether it's September, October, November, December, I think Jackson'll be
ready to go. I'm ready to play.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Matt Stafford starting to come, Like how do you handle that?
Where you just you have no idea? I mean, I
guess you got Garoppolo, who's you led a team to
a super Bowl? But how do you handle that in
terms of how much you invest in Stafford in real time?
Right Like obviously I'm not talking contractually, but yeah, what what?
(31:04):
How do you how do you handle the Stafford thing?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I for you're the Rams, Well, it's literally going to
be day by day, and it sound like it's getting
better day by day. But as a lot of us know,
with back injuries and that, and if it has effects
to your nerves, you know, sometimes the rehab process and
the strength it comes very slowly, and so they have
(31:27):
to kind of gradually start moving them in. But you
have to also have a plan B with with Garoppolo
in case Stafford is not ready to play, so probably
in practice with your ones, probably the backup quarterback Garppolo
in this case, you probably take more snaps than he
usually would to get him ready in case he has
to play, which is completely fine because Stafford probably you
(31:49):
probably don't want to have him take every snap right
now in practice. So they've got thirteen fourteen days ago
before opening day, still have some time. But essentially, if
you're the coach, you know you really have to get
two quarterbacks ready to play since just you know, back
range back injuries are unpredictable. I know he has missed.
He hasn't missed very much time in his career, but
he's had back injuries in the past, and you know,
(32:11):
the older you get, it doesn't get better. So don't
have a plan for both. But in practice you're certainly
going to work. Both quarterbacks are good amount.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
He's the one and only tom te LESCo. Of course,
what does he know. He's only been in professional football
his entire professional life and been a gentle manager for
twelve years in the National Football League. Last thing, Tommy,
do you like this system where it's basically like one
big cutdown or did you like the old system better?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So I like this better because he gives every player
a chance to compete for a job. The only hard
part about it was administratively releasing thirty seven players over
a day or two.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's just it's just.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
A lot of work. You want to spend enough time
with each player on his way out, just as a
courtesy to talk to him about what he did about
career options moving forward, that sort of things. You want
to make sure you take the right time the head
coach to physician coaches. So there's a lot of time involved.
But I like the one cut because because everybody get
a chance to show what they can do for the
(33:17):
certainly for the third preseason game, you have a really
good chance to play your young guys. If you're a
team that doesn't want to play their starters. It gives
you enough players to play the third preseason game and
give every player, especially college free agents, that when you
sign the MAC for the draft, part of the recruiting
process is we're going to give you the whole offseason program.
We're gona give you all training camp in three preseason
games to show us what you can do. And guys
(33:39):
need that, and so I like this. It's just administratively
over a two day span. It's just a lot of
players to let go of. Now you know, roughly half
will come back on practice squads. But you know, it's
a process. Not fun really from players obviously, but the
process itself of building that initial fifty three is a
very enjoyable process.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
He's time Toe LESCo. He's built the original fifty three
as the Gentleman, as a gentlemnager for twelve twelve different years,
and just love having you on, love soaking up that knowledge. Tom,
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
We'll talk next week, all right, dog done good? Thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
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(34:49):
the press, monsie, what you got, all right, coach, We're
gonna start with college football, as Sharon More, who is
the head coach of Michigan, announced today that they're going
to go with true freshman Bryce Underwood to be their
starting quarterback.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Bryce Underwood will be a starting quarterback. I'll confirm that.
You know, he's he's earned the opportunity. It was not
given to him. All the other quarterbacks had a really
good camp as well. You know, really thought Jaydon Davis
has really come along and taken the next steps. He'll
be the two behind him, and he's done a really
good job. But Bryce took the necessary steps and really
(35:28):
took the position, you know, took the ownership of his
abilities and took ownership with the team and became a
leader on the team and a guy that guys looked to.
So you know, just did the things the right way
and used his skill and never tried to do too
much for a young guy, very mature beyond his years
and he's still only eighteen years old.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Now, let's not forget the story of Underwood that he
was supposed to go to LSU and then the story
is that Michigan kind of just stoffered him more money.
The number is that LSU was trying to do about
one point five million a year for about four years,
and it looks like Michigan there's no real number, but
it's about three million. So they kind of doubled it
poached him away from LSU.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So here they are three million a year or three
million total.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Three million a year. They think it's about twelve point five.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, and again these are like Front Office Sports says
it's twelve point five, but that they like this is.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
You know, listen, I'm just gonna tell you Monsie, like,
don't believe anything you're read. No, I'm sure within within scale. Again,
I'm not saying that absolutely positively, No way he's getting
that money. I'm saying that. I just again I wouldn't believe.
It's a lot of money for guys never played a snap. Yeah,
(36:44):
to have that much of a multi year deal, absolutely,
that's a lot of money. And it also is why
like I like Alabama kind of starting sort of a
no name guy's been there for a couple of years,
probably doesn't make a bunch of money. It's like the
Brock party thing right where you're like, well, you don't
spend a bunch of mone quarterback, but everybody else makes money, now,
you know, so you have a better roster. I can
(37:06):
only tell you it's like we have guys. Every one
of my team gets compensated above that of a scholarship
on some level. That's how we've chosen to do it.
But in no way are we in the ballpark of
what people say about other teams or even about my team.
It's just they everybody in plate stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Totally, totally all right. A little fantasy football news here
actually for your show, Doug. The Texans announced that Joe
Mixon is not going to be activated prior to tomorrow's
for PM Eastern deadline, so he's out for at least
the first four games of the regular season. There's not
a lot of information, but he's dealing with an ankle
injury and the rehab hasn't gone exactly the way they thought.
(37:45):
So for those that haven't drafted, I unfortunately have already drafted.
I did to yesterday. This is who the Texans have
for their running back group. Nick Chubb, Damian Pierce, dare
ugumbaal A, Woody Marks, British Brooks and Jehar Jordan. I
don't know who that is, but that is who they have.
So if you have not drafted in your fantasy football
(38:05):
know that Joe mix In will not be available for
at least the first four weeks of the regular season.
And I don't know if I would hold my breath
that he's gonna be back week five. The way I'm
reading into the stories of his ankle in this rehab,
that's not going the way they thought.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Week one is not until what a week September four? Yeah,
but that's not eing gonna be a good game. Cowboys Eagles,
that'll be a stomping. And then Chargers Kansas City that's
down in uh in Brazil. So yeah, did you have
to do the accent thing?
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
That does not.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I mean, you're such a show up.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
That's the press, get out there and pressed.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That was, Hey tomorrow, we're gonna do all predictions. I'm kidding, Okay.
Jason's like wait what, Like, We're never ever gonna do predictions.
We got a great podcast for you downloaded soon as
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