October 6, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug and the crew share what they loved most and hated most about the sports weekend in this installment of "Love AND Hate". Doug talks about the disturbing story involving Mark Sanchez. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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lot of l's taken this weekend by your boys in
the studio here at fed Fox Sports Radio. Didn't hurt
Sammy that Iowa State lost right, we don't know love
lost for the Clones as they go in where the
loose to the Bearcats.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Although I did have Iowa State winning as my gambler pick,
so please nobody listen to my gambler pick.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Ever home Dogs getting a big get in the mark.
We do this every Monday. It's a great way to
uh sprinkle around different thoughts about different sports because there's
a bunch from the weekend. We do both the positive
and the negative. On the doug Outleeb Show. We call
it love and hate.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
What did you love?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
God?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I love you? And what did you hate?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Need these player haters?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Love love love love love love Do do doo? Do
do do do m I love UCLA's win over Penn State.
Now I've heard people say I actually heard one of
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our hosts say, like, oh, can you imagine being the
ad at UCLA where nobody shows up? Hey, look again,
let's just cut the brass tacks. Ucla started school last week.
First week of full week of school was last week.
They'd already fired their coach. Right, you start out zero
to four, you've fired your coach, which means the whole
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team is not going to be there next year. It's
already an hour from campus. It's hard enough to get
people there anyway. So again I UCLA in the Big
Ten makes sense and that they'll fill that stadium, just
don't fire the head coach three weeks in.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
But what I loved about it is.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Uh, I'm sympathetic towards Jamie Franklin because a lot of
the record versus ranked teams was when he was at Vanderbilt,
and when he was at Vanderbilt it wasn't a fair fight.
Even now, Vanderbilt back to heights that they haven't seen
in my lifetime. Vanderbilt now is pretty well funded, not
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to the Alabama level, not to the Georgia level, but
they got some alums, they got some money. Nashville is huge.
When James Franklin got there, that wasn't the case. He
did a really good job at a time in which
it was very difficult for Vanderbilt to compete in the SEC.
So I've always been sympathetic. But there's a certain amount
of aloofness to him, which is has has become part
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of his persona. There's also like Big Ten schools, the
good ones, the Penn States, the Michigan's, the Ohio States,
they have an aloofness to them as well, and I'm
sure they thought, ah, we'll get in the plane, UCLA rollover,
nobody's gonna be there, we'll get out with a win.
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Funny thing happened on the way back into the top ten.
They got popped by the Bruins.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I love it. It's what sports is about.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And we saw some of this last year where when
you're the last place team, teams don't always come in prepared.
They may be prepared by their coaching staff, but emotionally prepared.
I think when you factor in James Franklin's newfound confidence,
boardline arrogance to Penn State coming off of a devastating
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loss to Oregon, and just those UCLA kids finding a
way to win a game, I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Help me out here, guys, because you guys follow college
football more than I do, so this was off my radar.
Could you just tell me how a team and a
major conference can somehow get twenty six points at home
to start a game. How does any they were down
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as many as twenty right, Penn State, Yes, and they
were giving twenty six. Yes, at some point in that game.
There was a discrepancy. If you added the spread of
fifty points. Yes, Like, how how do lines makers make
that big a mistake?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, lines makers are interesting. They only get credit. They
never get blame. Right when a game ends up close
and like one point pass the spread either way, we
all do the same thing. Vegas, how do they know,
the sharps, Ah, that's Vegas.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
How do they know? You know? The truth is Jase
do They don't?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Now they get closer on a higher percentage, but they
don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
But that'll only.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I think reiterates my point, which is everyone thought this
game is going to be non competitive.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Except you see it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, yeah, I think that the book makers, the sharps
there in Vegas, thought Penn State would get off, would
go far west.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And let him have it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
We're mad, yeah, and play mad and beat UCLA, you
know by twenty six. But the opposite happened. They went west,
the time change, maybe the time zones. They weren't locked
in the Oregon Ducks were still living rent free in
their head. And if I may seamlessly transition to my love,
it was watching assistant Jerry Neuheisel being carried off, carried
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off on guy's shoulders, off of the field, they're at
the Rose Bowl. Jerry Neuhaisel, of course, son of former
UCLA coach Rick new Heisel, who never really got it
going there in Westwood. He's been on the staff since
twenty eighteen in various roles, and just to see him,
he probably, you know, helped cook up the scheme, the
game plan to beat beat the Penn State Nitti Lions.
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And you got a quarterback in Nico Amaliava. I don't
even know if I said that right, but very talented guy.
I'm sure he didn't think that oh to four was
going to be in his future with the Bruin or
a coach. Let go, so for them to get that win,
and Jerry Newheisel carried off the field. That was my
love of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Dan Byer, Nico just wanted zeros and fours and commas
in his paycheck. You didn't care necessarily on the record.
There you go. I'm gonna have a little bit about
this in my hate Actually it's gonna be a lot
about this, but I will stay in college football and
I will just say I love how no one is
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paying attention to Ohio State right now. Yeah, the number
one team of the country. And they won last week
at Washington, which was a solid win. But heard a
few people chirping on how they're not opening it up
with Julian Saying as their quarterback, and why not just
let a guy drop back fifty times in his first
ever start on the road. Why not just do that? No,
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they're they're bringing him along and I really think like
it cannot be understated on how good Jerremia Smith and
Carnel Tate went completely off this past weekend because Minnesota
was so obsessed with trying to stop Jeremiah Smith, by
the way, still got his eighty yards and a touchdown.
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It is he may not win the Heisman, but there
is no doubt when you talk about the best player
in college football, it is him. He affects the game
so much. But nobody is talking about Ohio State at all.
Maybe they will. They're at Illinois coming up this weekend,
they got Wisconsin, then they have Penn State coming to town,
so maybe at that point they'll start talking about him again.
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But everything is the current underneath talking a lot about Miami,
talking about Penn State and the others. But Buckeys dominated
Minnesota on Saturday and are still number one.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Jason singing, Doug, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
I'm gonna make it four for four.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Where's the drop, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
None of our loves are going to be about anything.
NFL rewaited because my love is Japanese people. I love
Japanese people. Anything you ever read about Japanese people, and
I'm sorry if I'm giving into stereotypes or tropes is
that they are friendly, clean, and filled with a sense
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of duty. Each of those things are extreme positive human conditions,
and if it's a stereotype, then I apologize. I especially
love Japanese people when they are bookend pitchers on a
team that I root for. To win a playoff game,
I was convinced they would lose. Sho Halo Tani struck
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out nine Phillies and six innings to get the win
on Saturday. More importantly, he kept the Phillies one of
the best hitting teams in baseball. They're top four hitters
to one for thirteen, one hit thirteen at bats. Sho
Hao Tani gets the when Roki Sasaki comes in and
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gets the save. I love Japanese people. Let's go tod.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I want to come back for.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Let's get to those are all true, even through stereotypes.
They're positive ones, they're true.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Let's get to the other side of the pillow, the
hate side of the pillow. Dan, you felt like you
got some something boiling up in there, let it out.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Well, I just the Penn State Texas conversation. I'm not
trying to give a break to arch Manning and trying
to give one to Sark, but I just think that
they are two completely different conversations. And losing at Florida,
no matter what you think Florida is, is not even
close to losing to an zero to four u c
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L a team that has gone through what they have
gone through. And I don't think that Texas was in
the position that Penn State was, where everybody was coming
back this year to right the wrongs of what happened
last year and to have those these two outcomes, to
have them fall like that, we're grouping Texas in with
Penn State, where I think the Penn State situation is
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completely separate. I just I have no idea how you
get down twenty points. To Jason's point in that game,
like they had to rally to even be competitive in
the contest. There was a point late in the UCLA
game where I just thought the forces were on Penn
State side where the UCLA kid catches the ball out
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of the backfield. Do you remember this third down play?
No one's in front of him. Somehow he loses his
footing and falls down at like the twenty nine and
a half or thirty four and a half yard line
and is short of a first down. And then the
UCLA goes for it out of the shotgun, doesn't get
it and turns the ball over, and you're like, Okay,
it's Penn State's day, But then again it wasn't, and
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those losses. Jims Franklin was only at Vanderbilt for three years,
so the record against the top ten teams it is
foreign twenty one when he's been at Penn State. And
now you have this team that comes in again where
we're gonna, let's win a national championship. Drew Aller the
first overall pick. They know anything like it, and I
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know last week may have taken something out of him.
There's no excuse to lose to UCLA the way that
they did. So it's I hate that Texas and Penn
State are put in this group because they were both
top ten teams and lost on the road. But the
Penn State situation is so much further down the road
for me on what is you know, just what has
been a disappointing couple of weeks where Penn State. Not
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that I'm giving Texas and out, I just think Penn
State's is much much worse.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Add one thing onto there too. Probably not an empty
seat at the Swamp, many empty seats at the Rose Bowl.
So you're going to a place where Texas loses and
it's a very very hard place to play.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
UCLA does a blue out with a play that's they're
going to try to make the Rose Bowl blue to
intimidate Penn State coming out. A lot of that blue
was tarp, yes, and the other was probably Navy for
the for the ninty Lions as well.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But hey, thank maybe it worked. Thank you for saying
it heart later that all right? Uh, Jay Steel, you're
kind of a resident hater. Why don't you go ahead?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I hate when Survivor picks and Fantasy teams lose because
of a decision by one player. His name is Amare
Dame Mercado de Mercado in uh in Spanish.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh, man, I had a deve Marcado from Starbucks. It's
really good.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I think in Spanish I means of the market. I
think amare should be in the market, as in on
the waiver market and free agent market of the waiver market.
Uh So, for those that didn't see this, guy took
a uh took a run what sixty plus yards and
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dropped the ball before the end zone, costing the Cardinals
the game, costing a lot of people their survivor picks,
as the Cardinals were a popular choice yesterday, and it
cost me my fantasy week. So Amari de Maccardo. John
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Gannon Jonathan Gannon, the head coach of the Cardinals, was
asked after the game about that play.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
As a coach, what do you say to him? It's
never about one play.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
We have coaching points that I'm not going to tell
you guys now now that contradicts the video that all
of us have seen. Right, Gannon walked up to him
and gave him an earful, which he should have. While
he was getting an earful, he was getting consoled by
a teammate, and Calherd made this point this morning. If
I'm a teammate, I'm not consoling the guy. I'm a teammate.
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I'm saying you're letting us down. We practice hard, we
go to work every day, and you're showboting your need
to show off in that home. It just costs us
a game. Why would I console you. I hate Amarri
day Mercado. I hate losing Survivor picks, and I hate
losing my with my fantasy football team.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Jason did lose by less than six points with a
Mario de Mercado on his roster.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I hate.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
So you know what, there's I'm sorry Dan real fast.
So on the on the podcast that comes up at
the top of the hour, I asked, I asked, uh,
Doug and Sam this, I'm going to ask you. Remember
last December when we went around the room and I said,
do you think these guys are dropping the ball on
purpose to show off or are they doing it accidentally?
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And we were split down the middle. Sam and Doug
thinks that it's an accident thing or something they're too
excited about carelessness. You and I think it's on purpose.
Have you changed your take on that?
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Not at all? Absolutely not. It's and you need to
start developing end zone celebrations with the football involved because
that means you'll hold on to it into the end zone.
So that's like a baby. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, do
something like that. I go make a make a baseball thing.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You were we talked about this earlier.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
You were you were doing, you were actually working when
we were just talking, and I said, I think part
of it is coaching, though, is we we you can
talk about it, but you actually have to do it,
and you have to make it every time we go
into the end zone. Guys, you two hands on the
football until you are all the way and then hand
the ball. We're gonna be the team that hands the
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ball to the official. Or you can even do the
Australian rules thing. Or you can plant the ball down
on the field, but only in the back of the
end zone, the white of the end zone. That way
you've cleared, like make it like the finish line, you
go through a run through the finish line. But I
think it's something you gotta practice. Like we actually practice,
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and I took this from coach Sutton. We practice how
to save the basketball. Why does that matter how many
times you watch a basketball game, ball goes going out
of bounds underneath somebody's own basket and they throw it
underneath their own basket, and you're like, don't throw it
undneath throw a basket. Yeah, but did you actually practice that?
And you're like, well, he's twenty years old, he should know,
but has he ever actually practiced it? We practice it,
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so to me, again, I can't be critical of coaches
when players make these sorts of dumb ass plays. They're
gonna make dumb ass plays. But in this one, how
many times have we seen it already this year? Three
or four, beeen, College of Pro?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Well, we've seen it in back to back weeks in
the National Football League, Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And I've seen it in college at least once or twice.
So we've seen it again. Practice it. Everybody's watching practice it. Hey, guys,
we're gonna practice every day we go through the end zone.
We're gonna run over and hand the ball to that cause.
I think I still think the Florida State catch. I
even think I may have changed in the What was
the guy for the Colts last week? Ad N I Mitchell, Yeah,
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ad N I Mitchell. I do think ad N I Mitchell. Well,
he was trying to show the ball like I don't
think he was trying to show. But I think he
was trying to show the ball and it slipped out
of his hands.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And I thought that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
At Florida State, the wide receiver who babbled it, babbled it,
babbled it all ten year yards finally caught it but
was out of bounds. I thought it was the ball
move because he was trying to secure it. They're taught
to when you get it secured in your strong hand, right,
I thought he's trying to secure it. That's where the
ball movement took place. So I think that actually was coached.
I think these had to be coached.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I will say something to Jason's point about the video
clip that maybe not everybody has scene of Jonathan Gannon
ripping into De Marcado and the player consoling him. And
I just used Romandre Stevenson as the example. We see
the Patriots last night beat the Bills, and some people
were surprised. My teammate on Sunday, Carry Rhods picked it
a week a ghostays, New England's going to go to
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Buffalo and win.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
They turned the ball over five times in that loss
to the Pittsburgh Steelers. New England did and Ramondre Stevenson
had a fumble at the goal line. In fact, in
this game again Buffalo, Romandre Stevenson fumbled in the first quarter.
But Romondre Stevenson wasn't showboating into the end zone when
he fumbled. So if you want to go to romondre
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Stevenson and say, dude, we're gonna need you in this game.
You're our physical runner. Yeah, get your head in the game,
I'm totally cool with that. And I think that's what
the Patriots did because romondre Stevenson scores two touchdowns later
in the game for New England. Here, if you're Jonathan Gannon,
you said you aren't going to play anymore. I don't
think anybody would have a problem with that. Like, there's
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physical mistakes, there's mental mistakes, and then there's the mistakes
of showboating. And I think players shouldn't have gone up
to de Marcado like he bleeped up big time. If
you want to do it to Romondre Stevenson, go right ahead.
But that in Arizona last you know, yesterday cost him
a game and may just may cost people their jobs
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because of.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
No question, I'm with you, Sanny Send me hated.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I could go with the boring hate that I was
sort of thinking about, of refs letting the play clock
go down to zero and then minus one before calling
a delay of game. And I just see this way
too often, where like they're giving quarterbacks and offenses an
extra beat. But I'm not gonna talk about that. I
somehow found a way to wedge it in there. I'm
gonna talk about shrink flation. I went to the grocery
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store yesterday and I thought, you know what, I'd really
love to have a stuffed crust pizza. But I'm not
gonna do delivery. I'm gonna do blank. Okay, so I
bought the pizza. It was on sale, but you know,
it still will go back to its normal price at
some point. I opened this baby up, and it's a
straight medium.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
It is.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It is not a large.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Have you ever tried on a shoe, especially in your kid,
and the shoe is just so much bigger than your foot,
and then you go feel your toe and you're like, oh,
look at all that space, And the pizza was like
the toe in there, and then the box was the shoe,
and I'm like, open this thing up and I'm like,
I paid twelve bucks for this medium, and I'm like, man,
we are still not out of the woods here with
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inflation and shrink flation. And sometimes I'd rather just pay
more but get the same size pizza because that was
a bummer.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That irritated me. You know, it's not delivery, it's something else. Yeah,
well maybe I should have gotten pizza Hutter Domino's stuff crust.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
On your first part. I was going to say this
last week in the Packers Cowboys game. It's why we
need tens of a second on game clocks. Maybe you
need them on the play clock. I'm not sure, but
there's there's an absolute need for the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Are you noticing this too, that these guys get an
extra beat on Well, that's the rule, that's what they're
allowed to Yes, you are allowed to get an extra beat. Yes,
but then when do you actually call the penalty correct?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
So yeah, a lot of times they don't make calls
now because they're worried about the replay overturning them. Lots
of things they're done with NFL officiating.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I'm seeing zeros though, and I'm like, yes, you can
snap it at zero. They give you that pause.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But I'm even seeing like I think it was during
the Chargers Commanders game, it just felt like there was
a it should have been a blatant and even talked
about a latent violation there. And I just don't get
it. It feels a little abstract. But I'd rather I'm a
little bit more steamed over shrink flation.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Okay, I I I hated where people went to score
political points on the Mark Sanchez thing. Whether the story
came out as it has been, which is the exact
opposite of what people thought initially, However it came out
like these are news stories. Why do we have to
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score political points the moment that something happens, if somebody
can help me like and and some of these people
are my friends that I like. But it's when you
live in this world where ooh I can score, I
can say I was Basically, it's like I was right,
my point was right, my side is right. And one
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you don't have all the facts. Two, even when you
do have all the facts, there's a lot of stuff.
There's a lot of nuance to it. And I just
I don't know how we've gotten to this place where
human interest stories stories of crimes that are individual based
are used to make a bigger point immediately. And it
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also causes something that I learned from Jays two, which
is what about ism. Right, we can take one story
from either side and use it to make a bigger story.
I just not every story requires you to one hop
on board before the story comes out, too, which we're
learning with the Mark Sanchez story. And two, you don't
need to use every story, or even most stories, to
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make some political stance. Let the politicians make it. They'll
make asses of themselves. That's their job for you. Wait
till the whole story comes out, and if you want
to reference it in the future, you can always go
back to referencing.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It and using an anecdote to try to prove a
larger point that something generally is happening. It's just not
the good way to go. And it turns out that
that anecdote was If the anecdote was the Mark Sanchez case,
all the details were wrong. This was between two people
and it was seemingly Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And some parking Weston too. Yeah, it was probably like
what did I just walk into? Yeah, And that's loving hate.
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Speaker 4 (24:31):
Okay, let's.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Let let's first talk about the Mark Sanchez thing. Okay,
when you saw the story, Dan Byer, you woke up
Saturday morning, and I think most of us do the
same thing. We get to social media just to see
what's going on. And he saw Mark Sanchez is stabbed
in in the hospital.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
What was your immediate.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Thought and me, you've gotten jumped or robbed?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Yeah, yeah, didn't Schefter say that in his report that
it was a robbery burglary?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, burglary. Yeah, but burglary.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
That didn't help them.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
That's why I thought it. Yeah, I read it.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
No not, I don't know. I just saw.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I just saw that he was in the hospital. Jace,
you saw the same thing, or what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Main like, no, no, no.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
My first thought was the uh, you know, I have
a pet peeve against people who just put thoughts on prayers.
So all the blue check marks people in our industry
who think they know Mark because he's got a big
smile and he played quarterback is on TV. Thoughts and prayers,
Thoughts and prayers, and I always roll my eyes with
all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Sam.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, when I first heard about it, I just I
thought that, you know, yeah, like you said, it seems
like a nice guy, Uh, works for Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Doesn't seem like a criminal.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
But dr Antenna didn't go up. Well my no.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
When I when I saw the first news, you know,
news come across my screen, I'm like he was attacked
by somebody. He was the victim of some kind of crime. Yes, yeah,
that's what I thought. Sure, sure, because we I had
no Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And then then this was but then the summer political
pun in some are others. I mean Dan Dockash was
a friend of the show. I thought blatantly racist tweet
where he talked about how this is what's happening in Indye.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You know, I'm from it. I live in India. I
know that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Young black men descending upon the city taking over and
this is like what happens like without any factual knowledge
of it. Then it kind of insequential order, like I
would say, twenty five minutes later and this is again
after I woke up and it was, uh, this is
central time, right, YEA it was Central time, So I
woke up it's beend morning, and I saw a police
report that had a completely different story where the man
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was in self defense, it was attacked, and I was like,
what the hell is going on? And it was at
that moment where suddenly, in his forties, Doug was like
the smartest Doug that there's ever been.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
This is not normal.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Was just like, don't tweet anything, don't retweet anything. Let's
just wait. There's something weird going on here that I
don't know about.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Right where.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
The first story is he was attacked and he was
you know, robbed or mugged or whatever. The second story
is he goes after a guy over some parking spot.
Then the more it comes out, then he gets arrested.
Then the video comes out. Now there's a new video
of him kind of stumbling down the street bleeding after
getting stabbed, and he's charged with He was charged with
(27:30):
the felony today, right yep.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Level five felony carries a one to six year prison sentence.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Again, I don't know what happens.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
He has no criminal record, so you know, he could
probably plead out and doesn't go to jail. But I mean,
this is a that's a crazy story. Crazy story.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yes, I think I was one of the people who
kind of jumped the gun when we found out about
Gene Hackman and his wife passing away. I was like, well,
either that someone burglarized their home and killed them, or
she killed him. And it was when the facts finally
did come out, the forensics were done, it was a
completely different story where she died of this rare virus
and then he had Alzheimer's and just died on his own.
(28:09):
And at first I was like, Wow, that must be
some you know, someone broke into their home and killed them,
or or she killed him, and it was nothing like that,
and people just jumped to these assumptions.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, Jasey, you've had more interaction now with Mark with
his brother. You have a there's something interesting. I don't
know if you said it on air.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Have you said yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think you said on air where you think everyone
You assume everyone's on something.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Right.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
The more the order I get and the more I
look around, especially since the drug walls here in California
have waxed, I just assume everybody's on something prescribed or not.
And I am definitely in the minority. And then I'm
never on something. And the only thing when you take
a look at the details and the police report, the
only thing that makes sense in the story is that
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he was on something or a combination of something.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Right.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Nothing else explains a fit guy in his thirties seemingly
trying to badly hurt a sixty nine year old senior citizen.
So I just assume there's chemicals in play here. Obviously
I don't know anything, but that's my sign.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I wanted to say that I think alcohol alone can
make you do crazy stuff, so maybe he was not
that well. I told you this before the show, Doug.
There was this really sad story from Iowa City when
I'm about the same age as this guy. It was
two thousand and eight. His name is Curtis Frye, and
he had never drank alcohol before in his life, and
he went out with his friends his twenty first birthday
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in downtown Iowa City and he got blackout drunk, and
he ended up breaking into an apartment that he thought
was his own, and he beat a seventy five year
old man to death because he thought the man was
an intruder. And that was just from alcohol and brain
had never experienced alcohol before he blacks out and he
does something awful like that. So I'm not speculing what
Mark Santanza, something like that can happen.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Well, I I have a friend who I'm not gonna
name names.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I do think people in broadcasting will know who he is, right,
who famously walked into the wrong hotel room or something
in the New England area whatever years ago. And look,
I know him, and he's a guy who when he drinks,
he does not get violent in any way. He just
kind of gets dark and really quiet and actually likes
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to be alone. Like that's actually you know, it's that,
That's how. And one of the things that's interesting about
drinking is, uh, there's no proverb. I know, it's a
Hebrew proverb about who when Who you are when you
drink is who you really are. But the level of violence.
I know guys that want to get in fights when
they drink. Everybody had a friend like that that wants
to fight when they drink. This one feels like there
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had to be something else.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Well.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
The first the first thing that the old guy thought
to do was pepper spray that would usually temper a
human being, and supposedly it didn't enough to where the
guy felt so frightened for his wife that he's stabbed
him multiple times.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
It's the weirdest story ever.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
The situation is whatever went down in Indianapolis is crazy
the angle that I look at it, and not to
make it lighter, but it is the need for people
to always comment on social media, like it blows my
mind that you can have friends that will You'll post
(31:27):
something on Instagram, I don't know. Let's just say Harper's
doing something to Questrian Wiser, Jacob did something. They won't
like your post, but Lebron James will put something up
and they'll like it, okay. And the reason that I'm
saying this is there are people out there who are
coming out and saying things, jumping to conclusions when they
have no idea what is going on, but doing it
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for their own self and their own image. If you
knew Mark Sanchez, you would have reached out via text
and wished him well or not knowing the details. But
it is. There's also this social media craze of people
always wanting to attach themselves or have some sort of
connection without even knowing the facts, and it drives me
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up the wall, Like I can't stand.
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Let's get Dan Bayer before we all make picks on
tonight's two big games.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
The press, all right, Doug in Cincinnati, the Bengals are
sitting there at two and three after a loss to
the Lions yesterday. The Bengals right now with a point
differential of negative seventy one, that's the worst in the
entire NFL. And now maybe a change under center. You
see Jake starting on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
We'll see where he goes. You know, it's I think,
like all personnel decisions, we got to evaluate it. Jake's
been very accountable for how the game went for him.
I've got to be accountable for how the game went
for me as well. And so we'll continue to progress
here through the days.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
So if it's not Jake Browning against the Packers, it's
likely Brett Rippen would get the start against Green Bay
in Week six.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Former Boise State start, Yes Rippin. And that's a look.
That's one for the Packers. You're coming off of bye
week now gative team, potentially a third string quarterback afternoon
game at Lambeau.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
They have to get back on track, to have to
have to as they get healthier.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
And Cincinnati again, Joe Burrow is not expected back until
mid December. Yes, but that division right now is for
the taking because the Ravens stink in the and the
the Browns, yeah they hurt. So there is such a
unique spot where if you can now.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Be yeah, just be decent, Just be decent. What else?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Omar and Hampton going on injured reserve, gonna miss at
least the next four weeks for the Chargers running back
after suffering that ankle injury yesterday against the Commanders. That
was the message from Jim Harbaugh, IR for Omar and Hampton.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
And it's bad right.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
You lose your top two running backs, You've lost your
book end tackles as Joe out didn't play yesterday. But
running backs you can find on the street. Offensive tackles
you cannot. I love Amrio, Hampton's gonna have a great career,
but running backs you can find on the street.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
TMZ is reporting that the other party, the sixty nine
year old man in that altercation with Mark Sanchez over
the weekend, is now filing a lawsuit against Sanchez. That's,
according to tm.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Gonna be expensive weekend in Indy, Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
How about this one? YUEFA has approved La Liga's request
to host a league match between Barcelona and Villarial in Miami.
On December twentieth, YUEFA approved the request, despite their opposition
to domestic league matches being played outside of their country.
The only reason I bring this up is because we're
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in the midst of the London games in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, they're saying, hey, that's a great idea. We're going
to do that to you. Great idea. But by the way,
here's how UEFA works. You cannot do it. You can't
how much? Okay, just one time. I can't do it,
just one time, just one time.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I thought it was I just thought it was interesting
that that they were against it. But they're allowing them
to do it. And that's the press.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
They get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
My quick picks tonight Monday Night football, Kansas City at
Jacksonville Jacksonville three and a half point dog at home.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Buyer.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I took Kansas City minus the three and a half. Sam,
I'm gonna take the Jacks here to win this game.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What about you there?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Uh decline, I'm gonna take Jacksonville getting three and a half,
three and a half at at at home. Okay, Dodgers Phillies,
you decline that one as well.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Jays do, Yes, please.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Okay, what do you get, Buyer.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
I'll take phillies.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
When you got phillies, I'm gonna go phillies as well.
I think it even it up. Uh, Brewers Cubs in Milhawaukee.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Buyer, give me the Brewers.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Jayce, do you want to recuse please? Yep, Okay, I'm
gonna take the Brewers as well. I'm gonna go Uh,
I'm gonna go Cubs. I'm gonna go Cubs to even
it up. Should be a great night in sports.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Enjoy. We'll be back with tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
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Bills lost, Eagles lost, Penn State lost a lot, a
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lot of l's taken this weekend by your boys in
the studio here at fed Fox Sports Radio. Didn't hurt
Sammy that Iowa State lost right, we don't know love
lost for the Clones as they go in where the
loose to the Bearcats.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Although I did have Iowa State winning as my gambler pick,
so please nobody listen to my gambler pick.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Ever home Dogs getting a big get in the mark.
We do this every Monday. It's a great way to
uh sprinkle around different thoughts about different sports because there's
a bunch from the weekend. We do both the positive
and the negative. On the doug Outleeb Show. We call
it love and hate.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
What did you love?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
God?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I love you? And what did you hate?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Need these player haters?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Love love love love love love Do do doo? Do
do do do m I love UCLA's win over Penn State.
Now I've heard people say I actually heard one of
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our hosts say, like, oh, can you imagine being the
ad at UCLA where nobody shows up? Hey, look again,
let's just cut the brass tacks. Ucla started school last week.
First week of full week of school was last week.
They'd already fired their coach. Right, you start out zero
to four, you've fired your coach, which means the whole
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team is not going to be there next year. It's
already an hour from campus. It's hard enough to get
people there anyway. So again I UCLA in the Big
Ten makes sense and that they'll fill that stadium, just
don't fire the head coach three weeks in.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
But what I loved about it is.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Uh, I'm sympathetic towards Jamie Franklin because a lot of
the record versus ranked teams was when he was at Vanderbilt,
and when he was at Vanderbilt it wasn't a fair fight.
Even now, Vanderbilt back to heights that they haven't seen
in my lifetime. Vanderbilt now is pretty well funded, not
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to the Alabama level, not to the Georgia level, but
they got some alums, they got some money. Nashville is huge.
When James Franklin got there, that wasn't the case. He
did a really good job at a time in which
it was very difficult for Vanderbilt to compete in the SEC.
So I've always been sympathetic. But there's a certain amount
of aloofness to him, which is has has become part
(03:42):
of his persona. There's also like Big Ten schools, the
good ones, the Penn States, the Michigan's, the Ohio States,
they have an aloofness to them as well, and I'm
sure they thought, ah, we'll get in the plane, UCLA rollover,
nobody's gonna be there, we'll get out with a win.
(04:04):
Funny thing happened on the way back into the top ten.
They got popped by the Bruins.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I love it. It's what sports is about.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And we saw some of this last year where when
you're the last place team, teams don't always come in prepared.
They may be prepared by their coaching staff, but emotionally prepared.
I think when you factor in James Franklin's newfound confidence,
boardline arrogance to Penn State coming off of a devastating
(04:35):
loss to Oregon, and just those UCLA kids finding a
way to win a game, I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Help me out here, guys, because you guys follow college
football more than I do, so this was off my radar.
Could you just tell me how a team and a
major conference can somehow get twenty six points at home
to start a game. How does any they were down
(05:01):
as many as twenty right, Penn State, Yes, and they
were giving twenty six. Yes, at some point in that game.
There was a discrepancy. If you added the spread of
fifty points. Yes, Like, how how do lines makers make
that big a mistake?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, lines makers are interesting. They only get credit. They
never get blame. Right when a game ends up close
and like one point pass the spread either way, we
all do the same thing. Vegas, how do they know,
the sharps, Ah, that's Vegas.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
How do they know? You know? The truth is Jase
do They don't?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Now they get closer on a higher percentage, but they
don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
But that'll only.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I think reiterates my point, which is everyone thought this
game is going to be non competitive.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Except you see it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, yeah, I think that the book makers, the sharps
there in Vegas, thought Penn State would get off, would
go far west.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And let him have it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
We're mad, yeah, and play mad and beat UCLA, you
know by twenty six. But the opposite happened. They went west,
the time change, maybe the time zones. They weren't locked
in the Oregon Ducks were still living rent free in
their head. And if I may seamlessly transition to my love,
it was watching assistant Jerry Neuheisel being carried off, carried
(06:30):
off on guy's shoulders, off of the field, they're at
the Rose Bowl. Jerry Neuhaisel, of course, son of former
UCLA coach Rick new Heisel, who never really got it
going there in Westwood. He's been on the staff since
twenty eighteen in various roles, and just to see him,
he probably, you know, helped cook up the scheme, the
game plan to beat beat the Penn State Nitti Lions.
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And you got a quarterback in Nico Amaliava. I don't
even know if I said that right, but very talented guy.
I'm sure he didn't think that oh to four was
going to be in his future with the Bruin or
a coach. Let go, so for them to get that win,
and Jerry Newheisel carried off the field. That was my
love of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Dan Byer, Nico just wanted zeros and fours and commas
in his paycheck. You didn't care necessarily on the record.
There you go. I'm gonna have a little bit about
this in my hate Actually it's gonna be a lot
about this, but I will stay in college football and
I will just say I love how no one is
(07:30):
paying attention to Ohio State right now. Yeah, the number
one team of the country. And they won last week
at Washington, which was a solid win. But heard a
few people chirping on how they're not opening it up
with Julian Saying as their quarterback, and why not just
let a guy drop back fifty times in his first
ever start on the road. Why not just do that? No,
(07:52):
they're they're bringing him along and I really think like
it cannot be understated on how good Jerremia Smith and
Carnel Tate went completely off this past weekend because Minnesota
was so obsessed with trying to stop Jeremiah Smith, by
the way, still got his eighty yards and a touchdown.
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It is he may not win the Heisman, but there
is no doubt when you talk about the best player
in college football, it is him. He affects the game
so much. But nobody is talking about Ohio State at all.
Maybe they will. They're at Illinois coming up this weekend,
they got Wisconsin, then they have Penn State coming to town,
so maybe at that point they'll start talking about him again.
(08:33):
But everything is the current underneath talking a lot about Miami,
talking about Penn State and the others. But Buckeys dominated
Minnesota on Saturday and are still number one.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Jason singing, Doug, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
I'm gonna make it four for four.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Where's the drop, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
None of our loves are going to be about anything.
NFL rewaited because my love is Japanese people. I love
Japanese people. Anything you ever read about Japanese people, and
I'm sorry if I'm giving into stereotypes or tropes is
that they are friendly, clean, and filled with a sense
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of duty. Each of those things are extreme positive human conditions,
and if it's a stereotype, then I apologize. I especially
love Japanese people when they are bookend pitchers on a
team that I root for. To win a playoff game,
I was convinced they would lose. Sho Halo Tani struck
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out nine Phillies and six innings to get the win
on Saturday. More importantly, he kept the Phillies one of
the best hitting teams in baseball. They're top four hitters
to one for thirteen, one hit thirteen at bats. Sho
Hao Tani gets the when Roki Sasaki comes in and
(10:02):
gets the save. I love Japanese people. Let's go tod.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I want to come back for.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Let's get to those are all true, even through stereotypes.
They're positive ones, they're true.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Let's get to the other side of the pillow, the
hate side of the pillow. Dan, you felt like you
got some something boiling up in there, let it out.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Well, I just the Penn State Texas conversation. I'm not
trying to give a break to arch Manning and trying
to give one to Sark, but I just think that
they are two completely different conversations. And losing at Florida,
no matter what you think Florida is, is not even
close to losing to an zero to four u c
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L a team that has gone through what they have
gone through. And I don't think that Texas was in
the position that Penn State was, where everybody was coming
back this year to right the wrongs of what happened
last year and to have those these two outcomes, to
have them fall like that, we're grouping Texas in with
Penn State, where I think the Penn State situation is
(11:11):
completely separate. I just I have no idea how you
get down twenty points. To Jason's point in that game,
like they had to rally to even be competitive in
the contest. There was a point late in the UCLA
game where I just thought the forces were on Penn
State side where the UCLA kid catches the ball out
(11:32):
of the backfield. Do you remember this third down play?
No one's in front of him. Somehow he loses his
footing and falls down at like the twenty nine and
a half or thirty four and a half yard line
and is short of a first down. And then the
UCLA goes for it out of the shotgun, doesn't get
it and turns the ball over, and you're like, Okay,
it's Penn State's day, But then again it wasn't, and
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those losses. Jims Franklin was only at Vanderbilt for three years,
so the record against the top ten teams it is
foreign twenty one when he's been at Penn State. And
now you have this team that comes in again where
we're gonna, let's win a national championship. Drew Aller the
first overall pick. They know anything like it, and I
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know last week may have taken something out of him.
There's no excuse to lose to UCLA the way that
they did. So it's I hate that Texas and Penn
State are put in this group because they were both
top ten teams and lost on the road. But the
Penn State situation is so much further down the road
for me on what is you know, just what has
been a disappointing couple of weeks where Penn State. Not
(12:35):
that I'm giving Texas and out, I just think Penn
State's is much much worse.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Add one thing onto there too. Probably not an empty
seat at the Swamp, many empty seats at the Rose Bowl.
So you're going to a place where Texas loses and
it's a very very hard place to play.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
UCLA does a blue out with a play that's they're
going to try to make the Rose Bowl blue to
intimidate Penn State coming out. A lot of that blue
was tarp, yes, and the other was probably Navy for
the for the ninty Lions as well.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But hey, thank maybe it worked. Thank you for saying
it heart later that all right? Uh, Jay Steel, you're
kind of a resident hater. Why don't you go ahead?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I hate when Survivor picks and Fantasy teams lose because
of a decision by one player. His name is Amare
Dame Mercado de Mercado in uh in Spanish.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh, man, I had a deve Marcado from Starbucks. It's
really good.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I think in Spanish I means of the market. I
think amare should be in the market, as in on
the waiver market and free agent market of the waiver market.
Uh So, for those that didn't see this, guy took
a uh took a run what sixty plus yards and
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dropped the ball before the end zone, costing the Cardinals
the game, costing a lot of people their survivor picks,
as the Cardinals were a popular choice yesterday, and it
cost me my fantasy week. So Amari de Maccardo. John
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Gannon Jonathan Gannon, the head coach of the Cardinals, was
asked after the game about that play.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
As a coach, what do you say to him? It's
never about one play.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
We have coaching points that I'm not going to tell
you guys now now that contradicts the video that all
of us have seen. Right, Gannon walked up to him
and gave him an earful, which he should have. While
he was getting an earful, he was getting consoled by
a teammate, and Calherd made this point this morning. If
I'm a teammate, I'm not consoling the guy. I'm a teammate.
(14:51):
I'm saying you're letting us down. We practice hard, we
go to work every day, and you're showboting your need
to show off in that home. It just costs us
a game. Why would I console you. I hate Amarri
day Mercado. I hate losing Survivor picks, and I hate
losing my with my fantasy football team.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Jason did lose by less than six points with a
Mario de Mercado on his roster.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I hate.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
So you know what, there's I'm sorry Dan real fast.
So on the on the podcast that comes up at
the top of the hour, I asked, I asked, uh,
Doug and Sam this, I'm going to ask you. Remember
last December when we went around the room and I said,
do you think these guys are dropping the ball on
purpose to show off or are they doing it accidentally?
(15:45):
And we were split down the middle. Sam and Doug
thinks that it's an accident thing or something they're too
excited about carelessness. You and I think it's on purpose.
Have you changed your take on that?
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Not at all? Absolutely not. It's and you need to
start developing end zone celebrations with the football involved because
that means you'll hold on to it into the end zone.
So that's like a baby. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, do
something like that. I go make a make a baseball thing.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You were we talked about this earlier.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
You were you were doing, you were actually working when
we were just talking, and I said, I think part
of it is coaching, though, is we we you can
talk about it, but you actually have to do it,
and you have to make it every time we go
into the end zone. Guys, you two hands on the
football until you are all the way and then hand
the ball. We're gonna be the team that hands the
(16:35):
ball to the official. Or you can even do the
Australian rules thing. Or you can plant the ball down
on the field, but only in the back of the
end zone, the white of the end zone. That way
you've cleared, like make it like the finish line, you
go through a run through the finish line. But I
think it's something you gotta practice. Like we actually practice,
(16:56):
and I took this from coach Sutton. We practice how
to save the basketball. Why does that matter how many
times you watch a basketball game, ball goes going out
of bounds underneath somebody's own basket and they throw it
underneath their own basket, and you're like, don't throw it
undneath throw a basket. Yeah, but did you actually practice that?
And you're like, well, he's twenty years old, he should know,
but has he ever actually practiced it? We practice it,
(17:19):
so to me, again, I can't be critical of coaches
when players make these sorts of dumb ass plays. They're
gonna make dumb ass plays. But in this one, how
many times have we seen it already this year? Three
or four, beeen, College of Pro?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Well, we've seen it in back to back weeks in
the National Football League, Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And I've seen it in college at least once or twice.
So we've seen it again. Practice it. Everybody's watching practice it. Hey, guys,
we're gonna practice every day we go through the end zone.
We're gonna run over and hand the ball to that cause.
I think I still think the Florida State catch. I
even think I may have changed in the What was
the guy for the Colts last week? Ad N I Mitchell, Yeah,
(17:57):
ad N I Mitchell. I do think ad N I Mitchell. Well,
he was trying to show the ball like I don't
think he was trying to show. But I think he
was trying to show the ball and it slipped out
of his hands.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And I thought that.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
At Florida State, the wide receiver who babbled it, babbled it,
babbled it all ten year yards finally caught it but
was out of bounds. I thought it was the ball
move because he was trying to secure it. They're taught
to when you get it secured in your strong hand, right,
I thought he's trying to secure it. That's where the
ball movement took place. So I think that actually was coached.
I think these had to be coached.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I will say something to Jason's point about the video
clip that maybe not everybody has scene of Jonathan Gannon
ripping into De Marcado and the player consoling him. And
I just used Romandre Stevenson as the example. We see
the Patriots last night beat the Bills, and some people
were surprised. My teammate on Sunday, Carry Rhods picked it
a week a ghostays, New England's going to go to
(18:49):
Buffalo and win.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
They turned the ball over five times in that loss
to the Pittsburgh Steelers. New England did and Ramondre Stevenson
had a fumble at the goal line. In fact, in
this game again Buffalo, Romandre Stevenson fumbled in the first quarter.
But Romondre Stevenson wasn't showboating into the end zone when
he fumbled. So if you want to go to romondre
(19:11):
Stevenson and say, dude, we're gonna need you in this game.
You're our physical runner. Yeah, get your head in the game,
I'm totally cool with that. And I think that's what
the Patriots did because romondre Stevenson scores two touchdowns later
in the game for New England. Here, if you're Jonathan Gannon,
you said you aren't going to play anymore. I don't
think anybody would have a problem with that. Like, there's
(19:31):
physical mistakes, there's mental mistakes, and then there's the mistakes
of showboating. And I think players shouldn't have gone up
to de Marcado like he bleeped up big time. If
you want to do it to Romondre Stevenson, go right ahead.
But that in Arizona last you know, yesterday cost him
a game and may just may cost people their jobs
(19:52):
because of.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
No question, I'm with you, Sanny Send me hated.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I could go with the boring hate that I was
sort of thinking about, of refs letting the play clock
go down to zero and then minus one before calling
a delay of game. And I just see this way
too often, where like they're giving quarterbacks and offenses an
extra beat. But I'm not gonna talk about that. I
somehow found a way to wedge it in there. I'm
gonna talk about shrink flation. I went to the grocery
(20:18):
store yesterday and I thought, you know what, I'd really
love to have a stuffed crust pizza. But I'm not
gonna do delivery. I'm gonna do blank. Okay, so I
bought the pizza. It was on sale, but you know,
it still will go back to its normal price at
some point. I opened this baby up, and it's a
straight medium.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
It is.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It is not a large.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Have you ever tried on a shoe, especially in your kid,
and the shoe is just so much bigger than your foot,
and then you go feel your toe and you're like, oh,
look at all that space, And the pizza was like
the toe in there, and then the box was the shoe,
and I'm like, open this thing up and I'm like,
I paid twelve bucks for this medium, and I'm like, man,
we are still not out of the woods here with
(20:58):
inflation and shrink flation. And sometimes I'd rather just pay
more but get the same size pizza because that was
a bummer.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That irritated me. You know, it's not delivery, it's something else. Yeah,
well maybe I should have gotten pizza Hutter Domino's stuff crust.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
On your first part. I was going to say this
last week in the Packers Cowboys game. It's why we
need tens of a second on game clocks. Maybe you
need them on the play clock. I'm not sure, but
there's there's an absolute need for the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Are you noticing this too, that these guys get an
extra beat on Well, that's the rule, that's what they're
allowed to Yes, you are allowed to get an extra beat. Yes,
but then when do you actually call the penalty correct?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
So yeah, a lot of times they don't make calls
now because they're worried about the replay overturning them. Lots
of things they're done with NFL officiating.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I'm seeing zeros though, and I'm like, yes, you can
snap it at zero. They give you that pause.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But I'm even seeing like I think it was during
the Chargers Commanders game, it just felt like there was
a it should have been a blatant and even talked
about a latent violation there. And I just don't get
it. It feels a little abstract. But I'd rather I'm a
little bit more steamed over shrink flation.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Okay, I I I hated where people went to score
political points on the Mark Sanchez thing. Whether the story
came out as it has been, which is the exact
opposite of what people thought initially, However it came out
like these are news stories. Why do we have to
(22:30):
score political points the moment that something happens, if somebody
can help me like and and some of these people
are my friends that I like. But it's when you
live in this world where ooh I can score, I
can say I was Basically, it's like I was right,
my point was right, my side is right. And one
(22:51):
you don't have all the facts. Two, even when you
do have all the facts, there's a lot of stuff.
There's a lot of nuance to it. And I just
I don't know how we've gotten to this place where
human interest stories stories of crimes that are individual based
are used to make a bigger point immediately. And it
(23:15):
also causes something that I learned from Jays two, which
is what about ism. Right, we can take one story
from either side and use it to make a bigger story.
I just not every story requires you to one hop
on board before the story comes out, too, which we're
learning with the Mark Sanchez story. And two, you don't
need to use every story, or even most stories, to
(23:36):
make some political stance. Let the politicians make it. They'll
make asses of themselves. That's their job for you. Wait
till the whole story comes out, and if you want
to reference it in the future, you can always go
back to referencing.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It and using an anecdote to try to prove a
larger point that something generally is happening. It's just not
the good way to go. And it turns out that
that anecdote was If the anecdote was the Mark Sanchez case,
all the details were wrong. This was between two people
and it was seemingly Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And some parking Weston too. Yeah, it was probably like
what did I just walk into? Yeah, And that's loving hate.
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Speaker 4 (24:31):
Okay, let's.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Let let's first talk about the Mark Sanchez thing. Okay,
when you saw the story, Dan Byer, you woke up
Saturday morning, and I think most of us do the
same thing. We get to social media just to see
what's going on. And he saw Mark Sanchez is stabbed
in in the hospital.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
What was your immediate.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Thought and me, you've gotten jumped or robbed?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Yeah, yeah, didn't Schefter say that in his report that
it was a robbery burglary?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, burglary. Yeah, but burglary.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
That didn't help them.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
That's why I thought it. Yeah, I read it.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
No not, I don't know. I just saw.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I just saw that he was in the hospital. Jace,
you saw the same thing, or what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Main like, no, no, no.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
My first thought was the uh, you know, I have
a pet peeve against people who just put thoughts on prayers.
So all the blue check marks people in our industry
who think they know Mark because he's got a big
smile and he played quarterback is on TV. Thoughts and prayers,
Thoughts and prayers, and I always roll my eyes with
all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Sam.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, when I first heard about it, I just I
thought that, you know, yeah, like you said, it seems
like a nice guy, Uh, works for Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Doesn't seem like a criminal.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
But dr Antenna didn't go up. Well my no.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
When I when I saw the first news, you know,
news come across my screen, I'm like he was attacked
by somebody. He was the victim of some kind of crime. Yes, yeah,
that's what I thought. Sure, sure, because we I had
no Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And then then this was but then the summer political
pun in some are others. I mean Dan Dockash was
a friend of the show. I thought blatantly racist tweet
where he talked about how this is what's happening in Indye.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You know, I'm from it. I live in India. I
know that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Young black men descending upon the city taking over and
this is like what happens like without any factual knowledge
of it. Then it kind of insequential order, like I
would say, twenty five minutes later and this is again
after I woke up and it was, uh, this is
central time, right, YEA it was Central time, So I
woke up it's beend morning, and I saw a police
report that had a completely different story where the man
(26:46):
was in self defense, it was attacked, and I was like,
what the hell is going on? And it was at
that moment where suddenly, in his forties, Doug was like
the smartest Doug that there's ever been.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
This is not normal.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Was just like, don't tweet anything, don't retweet anything. Let's
just wait. There's something weird going on here that I
don't know about.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Right where.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
The first story is he was attacked and he was
you know, robbed or mugged or whatever. The second story
is he goes after a guy over some parking spot.
Then the more it comes out, then he gets arrested.
Then the video comes out. Now there's a new video
of him kind of stumbling down the street bleeding after
getting stabbed, and he's charged with He was charged with
(27:30):
the felony today, right yep.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Level five felony carries a one to six year prison sentence.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Again, I don't know what happens.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
He has no criminal record, so you know, he could
probably plead out and doesn't go to jail. But I mean,
this is a that's a crazy story. Crazy story.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yes, I think I was one of the people who
kind of jumped the gun when we found out about
Gene Hackman and his wife passing away. I was like, well,
either that someone burglarized their home and killed them, or
she killed him. And it was when the facts finally
did come out, the forensics were done, it was a
completely different story where she died of this rare virus
and then he had Alzheimer's and just died on his own.
(28:09):
And at first I was like, Wow, that must be
some you know, someone broke into their home and killed them,
or or she killed him, and it was nothing like that,
and people just jumped to these assumptions.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, Jasey, you've had more interaction now with Mark with
his brother. You have a there's something interesting. I don't
know if you said it on air.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Have you said yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think you said on air where you think everyone
You assume everyone's on something.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Right.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
The more the order I get and the more I
look around, especially since the drug walls here in California
have waxed, I just assume everybody's on something prescribed or not.
And I am definitely in the minority. And then I'm
never on something. And the only thing when you take
a look at the details and the police report, the
only thing that makes sense in the story is that
(28:56):
he was on something or a combination of something.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Right.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Nothing else explains a fit guy in his thirties seemingly
trying to badly hurt a sixty nine year old senior citizen.
So I just assume there's chemicals in play here. Obviously
I don't know anything, but that's my sign.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I wanted to say that I think alcohol alone can
make you do crazy stuff, so maybe he was not
that well. I told you this before the show, Doug.
There was this really sad story from Iowa City when
I'm about the same age as this guy. It was
two thousand and eight. His name is Curtis Frye, and
he had never drank alcohol before in his life, and
he went out with his friends his twenty first birthday
(29:38):
in downtown Iowa City and he got blackout drunk, and
he ended up breaking into an apartment that he thought
was his own, and he beat a seventy five year
old man to death because he thought the man was
an intruder. And that was just from alcohol and brain
had never experienced alcohol before he blacks out and he
does something awful like that. So I'm not speculing what
Mark Santanza, something like that can happen.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Well, I I have a friend who I'm not gonna
name names.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I do think people in broadcasting will know who he is, right,
who famously walked into the wrong hotel room or something
in the New England area whatever years ago. And look,
I know him, and he's a guy who when he drinks,
he does not get violent in any way. He just
kind of gets dark and really quiet and actually likes
(30:24):
to be alone. Like that's actually you know, it's that,
That's how. And one of the things that's interesting about
drinking is, uh, there's no proverb. I know, it's a
Hebrew proverb about who when Who you are when you
drink is who you really are. But the level of violence.
I know guys that want to get in fights when
they drink. Everybody had a friend like that that wants
to fight when they drink. This one feels like there
(30:45):
had to be something else.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Well.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
The first the first thing that the old guy thought
to do was pepper spray that would usually temper a
human being, and supposedly it didn't enough to where the
guy felt so frightened for his wife that he's stabbed
him multiple times.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
It's the weirdest story ever.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
The situation is whatever went down in Indianapolis is crazy
the angle that I look at it, and not to
make it lighter, but it is the need for people
to always comment on social media, like it blows my
mind that you can have friends that will You'll post
(31:27):
something on Instagram, I don't know. Let's just say Harper's
doing something to Questrian Wiser, Jacob did something. They won't
like your post, but Lebron James will put something up
and they'll like it, okay. And the reason that I'm
saying this is there are people out there who are
coming out and saying things, jumping to conclusions when they
have no idea what is going on, but doing it
(31:49):
for their own self and their own image. If you
knew Mark Sanchez, you would have reached out via text
and wished him well or not knowing the details. But
it is. There's also this social media craze of people
always wanting to attach themselves or have some sort of
connection without even knowing the facts, and it drives me
(32:10):
up the wall, Like I can't stand.
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(32:59):
Let's get Dan Bayer before we all make picks on
tonight's two big games.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
The press, all right, Doug in Cincinnati, the Bengals are
sitting there at two and three after a loss to
the Lions yesterday. The Bengals right now with a point
differential of negative seventy one, that's the worst in the
entire NFL. And now maybe a change under center. You
see Jake starting on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
We'll see where he goes. You know, it's I think,
like all personnel decisions, we got to evaluate it. Jake's
been very accountable for how the game went for him.
I've got to be accountable for how the game went
for me as well. And so we'll continue to progress
here through the days.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
So if it's not Jake Browning against the Packers, it's
likely Brett Rippen would get the start against Green Bay
in Week six.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Former Boise State start, Yes Rippin. And that's a look.
That's one for the Packers. You're coming off of bye
week now gative team, potentially a third string quarterback afternoon
game at Lambeau.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
They have to get back on track, to have to
have to as they get healthier.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
And Cincinnati again, Joe Burrow is not expected back until
mid December. Yes, but that division right now is for
the taking because the Ravens stink in the and the
the Browns, yeah they hurt. So there is such a
unique spot where if you can now.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Be yeah, just be decent, Just be decent. What else?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Omar and Hampton going on injured reserve, gonna miss at
least the next four weeks for the Chargers running back
after suffering that ankle injury yesterday against the Commanders. That
was the message from Jim Harbaugh, IR for Omar and Hampton.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
And it's bad right.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
You lose your top two running backs, You've lost your
book end tackles as Joe out didn't play yesterday. But
running backs you can find on the street. Offensive tackles
you cannot. I love Amrio, Hampton's gonna have a great career,
but running backs you can find on the street.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
TMZ is reporting that the other party, the sixty nine
year old man in that altercation with Mark Sanchez over
the weekend, is now filing a lawsuit against Sanchez. That's,
according to tm.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Gonna be expensive weekend in Indy, Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
How about this one? YUEFA has approved La Liga's request
to host a league match between Barcelona and Villarial in Miami.
On December twentieth, YUEFA approved the request, despite their opposition
to domestic league matches being played outside of their country.
The only reason I bring this up is because we're
(35:24):
in the midst of the London games in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, they're saying, hey, that's a great idea. We're going
to do that to you. Great idea. But by the way,
here's how UEFA works. You cannot do it. You can't
how much? Okay, just one time. I can't do it,
just one time, just one time.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I thought it was I just thought it was interesting
that that they were against it. But they're allowing them
to do it. And that's the press.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
They get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
My quick picks tonight Monday Night football, Kansas City at
Jacksonville Jacksonville three and a half point dog at home.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Buyer.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I took Kansas City minus the three and a half. Sam,
I'm gonna take the Jacks here to win this game.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What about you there?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Uh decline, I'm gonna take Jacksonville getting three and a half,
three and a half at at at home. Okay, Dodgers Phillies,
you decline that one as well.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Jays do, Yes, please.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Okay, what do you get, Buyer.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
I'll take phillies.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
When you got phillies, I'm gonna go phillies as well.
I think it even it up. Uh, Brewers Cubs in Milhawaukee.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Buyer, give me the Brewers.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Jayce, do you want to recuse please? Yep, Okay, I'm
gonna take the Brewers as well. I'm gonna go Uh,
I'm gonna go Cubs. I'm gonna go Cubs to even
it up. Should be a great night in sports.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Enjoy. We'll be back with tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
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(37:01):
tomorrow on a Tuesday,
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