October 20, 2025 • 37 mins
On this installment of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved most and hated most from the sports weekend. Doug weighs in on Brian Schottenheimer and the job he has done with the Cowboys this year. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through The Press.
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We have three big games tonight. You have a Major
League Baseball winner, go home win or go home winner
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goes to the World Series. If the Mariners win, Game
one and two is at Chevez Ravine Dodger Stadium. If
the Blue Jays win, Toronto will be the home team,
will have home field advantage. Game one in Game two
will be in Toronto, Canada. So maybe maybe that'll be
part of the love and the hate of Jay Stewart.
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Not sure. And then we have a double header with
Monday Night Football tonight, which the double header tonight is
the there what's it called, Dan, where they're they're back
to back. They don't overlap, right, I'd say a true
double header. Yes, the other one is staggered start. That's
what I was looking for. Thank you, I appreciate. So
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you got Bucks and Lions, which really is that's the
good game. But then Dan's got to stay up late,
but he's on the West Coast. It's not really that late.
Texans and Seahawks. That's a lot of TV watching. But
the Seahawks at four and two. We get to see
Sam Darnold in a standalone game late against the Texans
who are kind of meandering through this third year with
their quarterback and their head coach, and the upstart Buccaneers
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against the lines lines playing at home. They are a
sizable favorite. So we'll give you our picks. We'll talk
about the games. Game seven as well upcoming forget to
alling that. We do want to offer this chance to
look back at the weekend. What we love, what we hate?
Got Jason Stewart, you got Iowa, Sam, you got Dan Byron, myself,
Doug Gottlieb. We call it love it hate?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
What did you love?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
God?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I love you? And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Meatley's player? Hey is m m ah love love love
love love hate hate hate hate hate. Hey, there's so
much of both. Y I'm starting boys. I loved the
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college football week. It started on Friday where two things
happen that I just love. One. Miami lost. Now I
don't have anything against the current Miami players or coaching staff.
I don't don't, but I generally I just Miami to me,
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always with a dirty program. Now it's like legal for
them to be it's not a dirty program anymore. But
there's always been this kind of level of arrogance that
hasn't been earned because they haven't won anything in I
don't know, twenty years, right, And I get it, like
that's kind of college football in a nutshell. You have
to live on your past. But just the arrogance of
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Miami and getting popped at home by Scott Saderfield and
Louisville assuming and coach Brohm and Louisville. Right, what is that?
All he does is be top five, top three tames. Yeah,
he's awesome. Louisville ends up getting to win in an
exciting football game. But then the same night and again,
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I like Matt Rule. But it's like I had a
buddy text me and Aaron, I'll give you a shout out,
my man. Aaron texted me, He's like, so everybody at
Penn State wants to hire Matt Rule, and they fired
a guy who'd been there for a while because he
hadn't won the big game. He's like, well, when was
Matt Rule won the big game? And I was like well,
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and then he said, is in this kind of like
an audition?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
They go up to Minnesota and they get popped. There's
a lot of other things I like about college football,
but like we make all these assumptions, like Miami's gonna
beat Louisville and it's a home game, and then you
see their fans melt down and beat the crap out
of each other in the stands. I just I'm not
a big Miami Hurricane football fan. Guy. And then the
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Nebraska thing where all they want to do is hang
on to Matt Rule because Matt Rules rebuilt the program,
and Penn State might want to hire Matt Rule because
the Penn State guy. But they fired a guy because
he wouldn't win the big game, and then Matt Role
hasn't win the big Game. I don't know. I love
the hypocrisy of.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
A couple of things. To that. Somebody on this show,
I forget, said that, uh, Tommy Fraser is not going
to walk through the door on Friday.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Do you guys remember that that was our j suit
team parlay.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Tommy Fraser's not walking through the door. Take the points
with Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Larry Burk's not walking through that door. And then do
you should when you say Tommy Fraser, you should say Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,
Larry Burk's not walking through that door. Walk at the door,
not walking through that door.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And did you guys door Carson after the game.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, when he threw his wide receiver on the bus.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
We had a education with the with the route and
what we were doing. So ran the route wrong and
I went to go throw it because we're hot off
of pressure, and again he made a good play on it, so,
but it definitely didn't hope that we ran the wrong play.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
What did you guys think? Because that was like on
Twitter anyways, which is where I live. This was kind
of universally hated, like the blue check marks hated this. Well,
what was it about this? It was so inflammatory.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Because he at first he says miscommunication, which we're good with, right,
that means somebody it means somebody ran the wrong route.
What it means. But then when he said the wide
receiver ran the wrong route, Now he's like, I did
what I was supposed to. He didn't. That's not leadership.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
I like when he doubled down and then hit on
that and then went all in with his double down
again on the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Hey, I just want to mention that he ran the
wrong route. Just he made a good play, it didn't help.
We ran the wrong route. Did I mention that he
ran the wrong route?
Speaker 7 (06:53):
I love it? I love it?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
What did uh? What did you want? Manning side? If
it's if it your fault, it's the team's fault. What's
what's the what's the what's the phrase? If you win,
it's the team. If you lose, it's it's your fault.
That was like the opposite.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I guess, yeah, yeah, it actually wasn't. Can I give
one another one more love? I'm sorry. I well, you know,
let's go through because somebody else might have it and
I'll circle back to it. Dan Byer go.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Yeah, because when Doug took the entire college football weekend,
it took.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Like six games.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'll take Friday. I'll take Friday. Go, you get the
rest go. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
So Ohio State didn't have much trouble with Wisconsin, but
at the same time, ole Miss and Georgia were playing.
And one of the things that I do like to
do is if there is a conflicting game that I'm
interested in, I will record it. And even though you
know the outcome, it's still exciting. And Ole Miss in
Georgia was just as exciting knowing the outcome of the game.
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Just to talk about the atmosphere that is Adage. Georgia
to me is one of my top three favorite college
football environments. I liked the late afternoon start, still light out,
everything about it, and ole Miss had opportunities. Georgia just
made more plays and it was a great college football game.
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A lot of offense. But when ole Miss needed to
make the plays, they couldn't, and when Georgia needed to
make the plays they did. Just a great college football
game between ole Miss and Georgia this past weekend.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
Sam Well, I had a great birthday weekend, So it's
gonna be hard for me to come up with a
true hate. But in my love, you know the whole
you know, Friday night was amazing with the Dodgers clinching
I know, the the National League Pennant, but the real
great sports weekend overall. But the cherry on top was
Iowa was crazy twenty five twenty four win over Penn State.
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I did not know. I did not pick this game
for the Gambler because I had no idea what to
make of it. Not that I know what I'm doing
anyway when it comes to betting analysis, but I really
did not know what to expect. They were going to
be starting a new quarterback. Terry Smith, the interim coach,
was taken over, and he said right before the game,
He's like, we're going to shock the world tonight.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
You just watched.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
They almost did, and Iowa kind of helped them towards
that end.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
By the world watching on Peacock.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
Yeah, the world, well the world of me watching on Peacock. Great,
great production they do over at Peacock. But it was
an incredibly stressful game. Iowa kind of was helping Penn
State get to upsetting the Hawkeyes with they were going
to do a sixty six yard field goal attempt, which
would have been the record for the longest field attempt
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field goal made of all time. It was blocked in
returned for a touchdown and Iowa was down fourteen to
ten at half. Then they were down twenty one to ten,
and then Mark Gronowski, i was quarterback, put him on
his shoulders and they ended up winning. But that was
like one of the most stressful, exhausting games I've I've
ever watched.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
How many people do you think, in like in Russia,
in India and just around the world, open their phones
and saw the score that Iowa want them They're like, yep,
I knew it right, Like I knew it. I knew
it it was it was going to happen.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
If it's just an audience of one and that one person.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Happened, well that game doesn't even show up in the
top twenty five because no one's.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Ranked I I know you have to.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
You have to sort big ten score, Dan pooh poohing
on my h'oo.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Pooing on the shock the World?
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Well, I think that here there was so much talk
from who's the former he's with Peacock now Robinson, Michael Robinson.
Michael Robinson was kind of He did a lot of
explaining where Penn State's mind was at. I think a
lot of people that have followed that program, we're gonna
be yeah, how do they respond with no, James Franklin
and uh no, Drew Aller and yes, for the people
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that cared, it was a pretty exhilarating lazy game.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
And like James Franklin did the previous three weeks, they
lost a close game.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Okay, as a casual college football fan, could you guys,
one of you three tell me where I'm missing out here?
Because the shock the World thing is surprising to me.
Shocking the world is when U C. L A Is
a twenty six point dog and they went outright. The
Hawkeys are a three point favorite at home, isn't don't
you get three points for being at home?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Where's the shock the world here?
Speaker 7 (11:19):
This was a coin flip?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It there's not. There's not there's a let's let's get
to yours there, Jason, But could I just.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Add one more thing now? He said that.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Excuse me when he said that, Uh it was It
just put a little chill down my because they played
so hard.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Penn State played song.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
They did, they did play, they did player, they did
not quit, saw on each other.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
It was a tough game. They really got all everything
thrown at Iowa. So carry on.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Game four of the NLCS, I know people were torn.
People were like, man, I'd like to see the series
extended so we could watch more baseball. I think most
people shared my paranoia as a Dodger fan. Win tonight.
Don't give them any breathing room. We all remember Kyle
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Schwarber's home run in the previous series that gave the
Phillies life. I did not want to repeat that in
Game four against Dan's Brewers. I hate that Dan had
to be the the receiver, the victim of this sweep,
but it needed to be done. We needed to put
the Brewers in the rearview mirror and focus on the
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next team, and boy did we do it in spectacular fashion.
A lot of people have overstated or tried to overstate
what shohe Otani did, but just in layman's terms, if
you're a casual baseball fan, you had a pitcher in
a I guess the what do you call those games?
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A finishing game, series, finishing.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Game, close out game, clinching hit, throw.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Home runs after doing dog crap for the first couple
series of the postseason, three home runs, one of them
cleared the wall in the pavilion, which I've never seen
done in right field anyways. And then he was throwing
one hundred miles an hour and had all five of
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his pitches working. And to the layman, I don't know
if you understand that big league pitchers typically have two
really good pitches and then they'll throw in the third
or fourth pitch as just kind of a compliment. He
pitches effectively with five pitches. He throws one hundred miles
an hour. He struck out ten batters and six innings
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while hitting three home runs through six innings of baseball.
His box score was three home runs and six innings
of pitched ball with ten strikeouts, no earned runs given up,
the greatest box score in the history of baseball. Shoheo
Tani on Friday Night. I've heard other people attempt to
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get things that are comparable. I've heard some real if
you bring something to the table that I've never heard
of in fifty years, that kind of answers the question,
like if you're like, yeah, babe, Ruth, he came in
and closed out a game once and okay, did he
hit three home runs in that same game?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I love him?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
So anyways, shohel Tani Friday night one of the greatest
experiences I've ever had on my couch.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Pause.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
That's an old timer. I'm gonna throw in one more
love because we did text about this one. I don't.
I just look, I'm not. I've never been a Russell
Wilson guy. I just because I know guys in the
NFL that always thought he was a phony. But since
the talent has seemingly like evaporated, I just I didn't
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buy in last year. I didn't buy an in Denver,
I didn't buy in this year. But man, you want
to talk about some shade. Denver scores thirty three in
the fourth quarter, comes from behind to beat the Giants, right,
And so they asked Sean Payton about the Giants where
he used to beat up fensive coordinator and about Jackson Dart.
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Take a listen to this shade he throws at Russell
Wilson at the end.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I have a ton of respect for that organization. I
spent four of my early years there coordinating Super Bowl
first first game in this stadium before nine to eleven
close with the Marrit Tish family. You know, they found
a little spark with that quarterback. I was talking to
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John Mayor not too long ago, and I said, we
were hoping that that change would have happened long long
after our game.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Damn, we wanted to face Russell Wilson because he's thinks
he thinks.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Wow, so much shade.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh so much. They hate each each other so much.
All right, let's get to hate. Let's get to what
we hate from the weekend. Our resident hater is none
of the Jason Stewart, how about it.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I think there's like this, there's this perception that the
Chargers are all beat up and their offensive line are
down to their third stringers, and we've kind of lost
hope for probably the postseason this year. I would take
it a step further, like just watching the game yesterday,
and that was a real hate watch for me, I
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could say that we should probably not play Justin Herbert.
This is my thinking. He's gonna get killed on a
football field. I don't know how many pressures you could take.
I don't know how many times you could get hit
without that one hit that really injures you. I know
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that Herbert. I think he gets credit for being the
guy that could take a hit, but not you know,
no one's completely unsusceptible to that one breaker. It's getting dangerous.
I bring in our backup for the time being. It
was a backup that was taken I think second overall
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in the in the draft. At one point, maybe it'll
be kind of fun to throw him out there and
see how he could do until we get our guys back.
It's really scary watching Justin Herbert take snaps with that
offensive line.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Damn yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
Just off the heels of that, and maybe we dive
into it at some point. Later this week, something interesting happened.
I don't know if it's because Jason and I went
to that Bills game a couple of weeks ago, but
I feel like I'm a little more in tune and
hearing more of this Bills chatter. And after the Bills
lost this past week into the Falcons. I read a
tweet that someone was complaining saying, like the window like
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the it is time to start complaining about not taking
making care of your star quarterback. And the Chargers, understandably
so have injuries. I almost feel like they've done a
better job of taking care of their quarterback than Buffalo
has had. But at what point do you start looking
at failures of not supporting your quarterback And it's happening
in Buffalo, and just wonder when that time comes for
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the Chargers, because I think I still think there's a
different conversation about the Chargers with Justin Herbert and what
they have around him, and those injuries cloud that up. Anyway,
mind stays in the NFL will make it quick. The
Cardinals decided to go for it on fourth down up
twenty three to twenty on the Packers yesterday with six
minutes to go, and they run a Jacoby Brissette sneak
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up the middle at their own forty eight yard line.
Don't get it. It allows Green Bay to have a
game winning drive.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Now.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
The Packers made plays on their drive, a fourth and
two that they converted, didn't settle for a field goal.
But if Jonathan Gannon is going to slap a Maari
de Marcado because of his bad decision on the touchdown,
then maybe Jonathan Gannon should have something happened to him
because he, yes, he made an awful decision to go
for it up three yesterday against Green Bay and likely
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cost his Cardinals the game.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Sam okay, I think Sam maybe worthing here.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I'm here.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
I'm here, so again, like I said, my love portion
not a lot to complain about on your birthday weekend,
A lot of love, I will say, though, Florida firing
Billy Napier after they win a game. And it wasn't
like they climbed back to beat Mississippi State. Who's you
know right now, a cellar dweller in the SEC. They
had a twenty to seven lead and they held on
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to win, like twenty three to twenty one. But firing
a coach after a win, and I know they've been struggling,
but firing coach after a win. And so it's like
all these mid midyear firings for these coaches are sort
of like raising my blood pressure.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
And then I saw that Napier was fired after a win.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
I was just like, why, this is.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Why you know?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
We did a game time of college programs that we,
you know, kind of like to see do better. Yeah,
Florida will never be on that list. Like I I'm
glad that Florida is mid to mediocre to maybe bad.
Like I don't. I don't need to see Florida good.
We had too much Florida at one time with football
and basketball. I don't ever need to see the Gators
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good again at anything.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Don't you really? Alright? I got something I hate?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I heard Cam Newton say this. Oh I'm sorry about so.
Cam Newton on a on a podcast was asked if
he would rather have team success or personal success. Okay,
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take a listen to his his answer.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Would you rather be in a spot where you can
individually achieve, have success, have statistics and lose or would
you want to be someone that contributes to a team
that can win a super Bowl?
Speaker 7 (21:07):
And I'm glad you asked that.
Speaker 11 (21:09):
When you're talking about individual play, this is how I
this is how I take care of my family. Team
success don't take care of my family. So if I'm
thinking about it from a personal standpoint, of course, we want.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
The best of both.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Worlds.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
But if you're asking me, what gives you extensions, what
gives you top tier money, what gives you certain things,
there are some more players that have rings, championships and things.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
That are struggling rather than quote unquote bus that has
had money and they're doing right by their money.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, feel free to point out to who those people are.
By the way, Cam Newton is who he is because
he won a national championship in college. You want a
Heisman trophy because you want a national championship in college. Right,
And look again, Kim is being authentic to himself. I'm
not accusing of inauthenticity. I just witch this is love
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and hate. I just hate this. I hated the fact
that they're down six points in the Super Bowl to
the Denver Broncos who have no offense because Peyton Manning
is washed done balls on the field and he does
not dive on it. He was asked afterwards and he said, man,
I gotta watch out my legs. Then he goes home
to Carolina and he doubles down on it. He's never
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been about team Cam is about Cam Newton, which, by
the way, is so funny because he basically used his
podcast his platform to guilt ESPN into putting him on TV, like, oh,
they're racist, they don't like the way I talk, they
don't like the way I dress. I don't get a shot. No,
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we don't like it because you were selfish, you were
never accurate, didn't evolve as a passer, you didn't even
understand who you were. Super talented, huge egomaniac. And I
just hate that he puts it out there so that
there is going to be a portion of young, up
and coming athletes who emulate that that's not how you
get paid. That's actually the opposite. People pay more for
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winners than they do for stat accumulators. And if we
want to do what we can do a podcast, do
a study on it. I know it to be true.
That's love and hate.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
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Live check that bad if I'm me stug out leap
show here on Fox Sports Radio. A lot of three
word senses which are very disarming. Right, none as much
as I was wrong. And while we all tuned in
against the Eagles, week one of the season, really to
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watch the Cowboys get destroyed. Funny thing happened in the
way of to that destruction was the Cowboys were super competitive. Now,
it hasn't been great all year. They have had some injuries,
but I think they're really well coached. I think they're
pretty good. I don't think they're good a great. I
think they're average and really fun to watch offensively, and
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Dak Prescott looks like the best version himself, and I
just think at some point people need to suck it
up and go. You know what, Jerry picked Brian Schottenheimer
because he felt like he gave him the best chance
to get the most out of his best player, right
most out of his best players, best players Dak Prescott,
and his highest played players, Dak Prescott. And he wanted
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to get the most out of Dak Prescott, and the
best thing to do was keep him in the offense
that he's familiar with, keep him playing for a guy
who he really likes playing with, and surround him with
some really good skill persion. Guys, I was wrong, we
are wrong about I mean, I was willing to give
Brian shot Hiber a chance, but I mean Dan, I
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don't remember what your commentary was. But of course Brian
schotten Humber once upon time was the offense of coordinator
for the Seahawks, and he was always under fire. And
I would say that Schottenheimer's under fire two things. One like,
he didn't have spectacular offenses that lit up scoreboards. That's fair,
that wasn't what Russell Wilson did. By the way, they
still won games.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Well, let me just interrupt there, because Russell Wilson under
Bron Schottenheimer was on his way to his best career year,
MVP caliber year, until Pete Carroll said hold up, hold up,
and kind.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Of wait minute, wait minute.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
It was it was that they had a game in
Buffaloes during COVID and Russell Wilson turned it over a
couple of times for again like having seven straight weeks
of great play, MVP caliber, play, top of the line.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Play, great job.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Then Brian Schottenheimer was told by Pete Carroll that's this
is not how we're gonna play after one bad game
in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, okay, I think that Brian Schottenheimer suffers from last
name syndrome. Right like his dad was super super super conservative.
His dad's teams were great in the regular season, and
they would get really tightly, really conservative, and they lost
early in the postseason Kansas City and in San Diego,
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and so there's that automatic was Dad never won. Big
Dad's all of favor, but you know whatever, And then
you know when they were in Seattle, there's just never
been people somebody that wraps their arms around Brian shot
and emers like that guy's boy genius. I gotta tell you,
I think they do a good job in Dallas. I'm
not a Cowboys fan. I love it when they lose.
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I enjoy watching them play. They play a fun brand
of football. I was just gonna say, we it's like
we watch it with the Jets. You want to wrap
the wrap the and that's how do you how do
you usually wrap up back to you, Doug, back you
to thank you. Sorry. I'll that's better. You know, Like
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we're watching what's happening with the Jets. And we've seen
head coaches in their first year not make it through
to their second year, or we've seen guys that are
just they're in over their head, they're swimming upstream the
first year, they say dumb stuff or whatever. I don't
remember a guy who was as beloved as like seen
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as kind of clever and different and quirky, but like
the new age of cod like we've had in Miami
to go from that to here where they're like the
laughing stock of the league. And by the way, there
is a certain I know it was his swag when
they were winning, but I'm watching him yesterday and he's
(27:41):
wearing the gold rim glasses and I'm like, dude, what
are you doing. He does appear to be very vain.
He just does a in a really kind of monotone,
very normal. I'm trying to be the football nerd or whatever,
but like, dude, you're wearing gold rim glasses and the
NFL game when your team is kind of the laughingstock
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of the league. Like, I don't know, Mike McDaniel, I
don't remember anything starting out so well and going this badly.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
And then there's the sub conversation on Twitter. I think
the barstool guys started this. Big cat the Capri wears
the Aaron Glenn wears Caprice, as does Mike mccaniel, and
it's it's not becoming of a head coach. You you
should be able to wear you have to wear pants
full pants that go down to your feet capris look
(28:29):
utterly ridiculous. Now, Sean mcvayh has been doing it for
a while and he doesn't get the crap that those
two other guys do because to Super Bowl it still
looks ridiculous on McVeigh.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Listen, listen, it's it's all all it matters to win lose,
all that matters. It was like Mike Nolan wore that
were tie to honor his dad, right, he had to
get a special when he was with the San Francisco
fort nine ers. Had he won with it, it would
have become a trend. But he didn't win with it,
and so it's like he's the guy was trying too hard.
(29:02):
And that's what Mike mcdan looks like. You're just trying
too hard to be hip and cool just coach a
football team. But when they were winning, it was cool.
It was cool. It was cool. Uh Okay, So in
order of games tonight, this is an interesting one. Like,
you guys are both big baseball guys, but that Tampa
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Detroit game, which used to be a divisional matchup, that's
I honestly, that's what Dan Byer's thinking. I remember when
they were in the same division.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Yes, at FFC Central.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Right, You're like, wait, on's in Detroit, one's in Tampa.
How does that make sense? Don't worry. The Braves used
to be in the NL West with the Dodgers, right,
and I think the I think the Falcons used to
be in the in the NFC West. Yes.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Well.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
In fact, last night's game against the Niners brought this
up on the I Want Your Flex pod Ian roddy
Are executive producer has no recollection of the Falcons and Niners.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Being in the same division.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Sure, sure, Now the Cowboys still don't make sense. Cowboys
shouldn't be in the East.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Right, That's correct, But Jerry Jones gets his way.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I do think this is a great time to bring
this up about the Lions Bucks. So for those listeners
who don't know, I've been fading Colin Cowherd for six weeks,
starting Week one, I have bet against the team that
he most liked. So every week he'll he'll give the
blazon five, but he'll always say this is my favorite
bet of the week, and he's own six. Does anyone
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here know how hard it is to go owen six
if you laid a sixteen parlay. You're getting paid a
ton of money. You could try to go owen six
and you wouldn't go own six. So I don't want
to tell our listeners what to bet tonight or what
I'm putting extra money on.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But I like the Lions to win in cover. Uh,
So you're saying put it all on Tampa, let it ride.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
I saw a graphic. Kudos to ESPN. They called it
the Lion's second secondary because they have no one available
from their week one opener in their secondary tonight.
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Speaker 2 (32:31):
The press.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
We're going to start out in college football because it's
been an interesting day. Florida State making and announcement that
they will discuss Mike Norvell's future as head coach after
the season, and then in Madison, Wisconsin athletic director Chris
McIntosh releasing a statement saying that while he and head
coach Luke Fickle understand that this season has been a disappointment,
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that they both see potential in what this team can
be against the Again, the Badger's coming off back to
back weeks of being shut out at home. But in
the statement, Macintosh said, as a department, we must provide
our coaches the tools necessary to succeed. That means more
athletics funded investments into infrastructure, staffing, and most importantly, student
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athlete recruiting and retention. In this new era of college athletics,
the clear reality is that high expectations must be matched
with an equal level of support.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
We don't have enough money, Yep, that's what they're saying.
We ain't got enough money to give the guy a
fair shot. And look, I've Mike Gundy up until the
last two years. He had one bad year with his
first year one, so either he suddenly forgot how to
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put together football team or they didn't have money the
year before, and this is their first year playing the
portal again. You're allowed to fire these coaches, but be
realistic about it. And I think what Wisconsin's getting at
is this Dan It's it's not that they can't afford
to fire him. It's not that they can't afford to
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put more money into football. They can't afford to do both, right,
it's twenty million dollars buyout, yes, plus the assistant coaches.
That's thirty million dollars. Plus you got to come up
with probably fifteen twenty million dollars for a new coach
and then twenty million dollars for a whole new team.
You don't have that. So the smartest way to do
it is, hey, let's save that buyout money and just
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go all in. Now, if Fickle's really smart, what he
will do is you'll go like, hey, here's what I'll do.
Let me cut my salary and I want to put
that directly into the player pool. And you know, if
you want to protect yourself with more buyout, fine, But
I that's that. Wisconsin's not saying they don't have money.
They're not saying they can't buy them out. They don't
have what they're saying they don't have money for both.
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That's a reality.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
This was the tortilla statement made by Texas Tech ad
the Kirby Hawk cut earlier.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
Today.
Speaker 12 (35:11):
Stakes are too high and we need to help not
risk penalizing our team again for throwing tortillas. Simply just
not do it. The situation is on me. I leaned
into this of throwing tortillas at the beginning of the
football season. Now I must ask everyone to.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Stop of the things you thought you would like. When
you're Kirby Hoko, you're like, hey man, you have to
be you know, athletic director at Texas Tech, finally got
a bunch of money, got a top ten ranked basketball team,
had a top ten rank football team. Whatever. What do
you think you'll be talking about at a press conference?
(35:48):
Oh so, gret I love sports.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Couldn't you have made that that announcement tomorrow on Taco Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh? Oh, the ever the marketing genius. By the way,
we got to do a pod tomorrow. Did you guys
see the Ringers story on Russell Westbrook at his time
in LA with the Lakers.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
No, I didn't all the stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
We make fun of Lebron about being a phony, about
and then some and then some. Russell Westbrook is smacking back.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
I'll tell you what I know. Mike Singletary went to Baylor.
But Texas Tech should play this on the scoreboard. If
fans are throwing tortillas.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Cannot win with him, can not coach with him.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
Can't do it, can't do it.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Can't do it. Can't do all those tortillas in the field,
can't do it. You do with those crazy eyes too.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
All right, here's your Jets situation. Aaron Glenn not committing
to Justin Fields or Tarrod Taylor on who's going to
start in Week eight against the Bengals.
Speaker 11 (36:50):
I want to make sure that I make the right decision,
and I don't want to make red decisions either.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
That from the Jets head coach.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
He hasn't won a lot of press officers this year.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Let me just tell you, well, at least they're talking
about his pants right now and not the record. Bryce
Young likely to miss time, Andy Dalton the star for
the Panthers again, no practice for Lamar Jackson for the
Ravens today, Jade and Daniel's hamstring injury not serious but
not a guarantee to face the Chiefs next week. And
Michael Pennock's junior day to day with a bone bruise
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in his foot to a tongue of Ailoa will start
a quarterback for the Dolphins in Week eight against those Falcons.
And Christian Brown getting a five year extension with the Nuggets.
And that's the press.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Bagget out there and pressed that was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
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We have three big games tonight. You have a Major
League Baseball winner, go home win or go home winner
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goes to the World Series. If the Mariners win, Game
one and two is at Chevez Ravine Dodger Stadium. If
the Blue Jays win, Toronto will be the home team,
will have home field advantage. Game one in Game two
will be in Toronto, Canada. So maybe maybe that'll be
part of the love and the hate of Jay Stewart.
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Not sure. And then we have a double header with
Monday Night Football tonight, which the double header tonight is
the there what's it called, Dan, where they're they're back
to back. They don't overlap, right, I'd say a true
double header. Yes, the other one is staggered start. That's
what I was looking for. Thank you, I appreciate. So
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you got Bucks and Lions, which really is that's the
good game. But then Dan's got to stay up late,
but he's on the West Coast. It's not really that late.
Texans and Seahawks. That's a lot of TV watching. But
the Seahawks at four and two. We get to see
Sam Darnold in a standalone game late against the Texans
who are kind of meandering through this third year with
their quarterback and their head coach, and the upstart Buccaneers
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against the lines lines playing at home. They are a
sizable favorite. So we'll give you our picks. We'll talk
about the games. Game seven as well upcoming forget to
alling that. We do want to offer this chance to
look back at the weekend. What we love, what we hate?
Got Jason Stewart, you got Iowa, Sam, you got Dan Byron, myself,
Doug Gottlieb. We call it love it hate?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
What did you love?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
God?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I love you? And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Meatley's player? Hey is m m ah love love love
love love hate hate hate hate hate. Hey, there's so
much of both. Y I'm starting boys. I loved the
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college football week. It started on Friday where two things
happen that I just love. One. Miami lost. Now I
don't have anything against the current Miami players or coaching staff.
I don't don't, but I generally I just Miami to me,
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always with a dirty program. Now it's like legal for
them to be it's not a dirty program anymore. But
there's always been this kind of level of arrogance that
hasn't been earned because they haven't won anything in I
don't know, twenty years, right, And I get it, like
that's kind of college football in a nutshell. You have
to live on your past. But just the arrogance of
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Miami and getting popped at home by Scott Saderfield and
Louisville assuming and coach Brohm and Louisville. Right, what is that?
All he does is be top five, top three tames. Yeah,
he's awesome. Louisville ends up getting to win in an
exciting football game. But then the same night and again,
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I like Matt Rule. But it's like I had a
buddy text me and Aaron, I'll give you a shout out,
my man. Aaron texted me, He's like, so everybody at
Penn State wants to hire Matt Rule, and they fired
a guy who'd been there for a while because he
hadn't won the big game. He's like, well, when was
Matt Rule won the big game? And I was like well,
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and then he said, is in this kind of like
an audition?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
They go up to Minnesota and they get popped. There's
a lot of other things I like about college football,
but like we make all these assumptions, like Miami's gonna
beat Louisville and it's a home game, and then you
see their fans melt down and beat the crap out
of each other in the stands. I just I'm not
a big Miami Hurricane football fan. Guy. And then the
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Nebraska thing where all they want to do is hang
on to Matt Rule because Matt Rules rebuilt the program,
and Penn State might want to hire Matt Rule because
the Penn State guy. But they fired a guy because
he wouldn't win the big game, and then Matt Role
hasn't win the big Game. I don't know. I love
the hypocrisy of.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
A couple of things. To that. Somebody on this show,
I forget, said that, uh, Tommy Fraser is not going
to walk through the door on Friday.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Do you guys remember that that was our j suit
team parlay.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Tommy Fraser's not walking through the door. Take the points
with Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Larry Burk's not walking through that door. And then do
you should when you say Tommy Fraser, you should say Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,
Larry Burk's not walking through that door. Walk at the door,
not walking through that door.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And did you guys door Carson after the game.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, when he threw his wide receiver on the bus.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
We had a education with the with the route and
what we were doing. So ran the route wrong and
I went to go throw it because we're hot off
of pressure, and again he made a good play on it, so,
but it definitely didn't hope that we ran the wrong play.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
What did you guys think? Because that was like on
Twitter anyways, which is where I live. This was kind
of universally hated, like the blue check marks hated this. Well,
what was it about this? It was so inflammatory.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Because he at first he says miscommunication, which we're good with, right,
that means somebody it means somebody ran the wrong route.
What it means. But then when he said the wide
receiver ran the wrong route, Now he's like, I did
what I was supposed to. He didn't. That's not leadership.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
I like when he doubled down and then hit on
that and then went all in with his double down
again on the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Hey, I just want to mention that he ran the
wrong route. Just he made a good play, it didn't help.
We ran the wrong route. Did I mention that he
ran the wrong route?
Speaker 7 (06:53):
I love it? I love it?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
What did uh? What did you want? Manning side? If
it's if it your fault, it's the team's fault. What's
what's the what's the what's the phrase? If you win,
it's the team. If you lose, it's it's your fault.
That was like the opposite.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I guess, yeah, yeah, it actually wasn't. Can I give
one another one more love? I'm sorry. I well, you know,
let's go through because somebody else might have it and
I'll circle back to it. Dan Byer go.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Yeah, because when Doug took the entire college football weekend,
it took.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Like six games.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'll take Friday. I'll take Friday. Go, you get the
rest go. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
So Ohio State didn't have much trouble with Wisconsin, but
at the same time, ole Miss and Georgia were playing.
And one of the things that I do like to
do is if there is a conflicting game that I'm
interested in, I will record it. And even though you
know the outcome, it's still exciting. And Ole Miss in
Georgia was just as exciting knowing the outcome of the game.
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Just to talk about the atmosphere that is Adage. Georgia
to me is one of my top three favorite college
football environments. I liked the late afternoon start, still light out,
everything about it, and ole Miss had opportunities. Georgia just
made more plays and it was a great college football game.
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A lot of offense. But when ole Miss needed to
make the plays, they couldn't, and when Georgia needed to
make the plays they did. Just a great college football
game between ole Miss and Georgia this past weekend.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
Sam Well, I had a great birthday weekend, So it's
gonna be hard for me to come up with a
true hate. But in my love, you know the whole
you know, Friday night was amazing with the Dodgers clinching
I know, the the National League Pennant, but the real
great sports weekend overall. But the cherry on top was
Iowa was crazy twenty five twenty four win over Penn State.
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I did not know. I did not pick this game
for the Gambler because I had no idea what to
make of it. Not that I know what I'm doing
anyway when it comes to betting analysis, but I really
did not know what to expect. They were going to
be starting a new quarterback. Terry Smith, the interim coach,
was taken over, and he said right before the game,
He's like, we're going to shock the world tonight.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
You just watched.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
They almost did, and Iowa kind of helped them towards
that end.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
By the world watching on Peacock.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
Yeah, the world, well the world of me watching on Peacock. Great,
great production they do over at Peacock. But it was
an incredibly stressful game. Iowa kind of was helping Penn
State get to upsetting the Hawkeyes with they were going
to do a sixty six yard field goal attempt, which
would have been the record for the longest field attempt
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field goal made of all time. It was blocked in
returned for a touchdown and Iowa was down fourteen to
ten at half. Then they were down twenty one to ten,
and then Mark Gronowski, i was quarterback, put him on
his shoulders and they ended up winning. But that was
like one of the most stressful, exhausting games I've I've
ever watched.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
How many people do you think, in like in Russia,
in India and just around the world, open their phones
and saw the score that Iowa want them They're like, yep,
I knew it right, Like I knew it. I knew
it it was it was going to happen.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
If it's just an audience of one and that one person.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Happened, well that game doesn't even show up in the
top twenty five because no one's.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Ranked I I know you have to.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
You have to sort big ten score, Dan pooh poohing
on my h'oo.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Pooing on the shock the World?
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Well, I think that here there was so much talk
from who's the former he's with Peacock now Robinson, Michael Robinson.
Michael Robinson was kind of He did a lot of
explaining where Penn State's mind was at. I think a
lot of people that have followed that program, we're gonna
be yeah, how do they respond with no, James Franklin
and uh no, Drew Aller and yes, for the people
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that cared, it was a pretty exhilarating lazy game.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
And like James Franklin did the previous three weeks, they
lost a close game.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Okay, as a casual college football fan, could you guys,
one of you three tell me where I'm missing out here?
Because the shock the World thing is surprising to me.
Shocking the world is when U C. L A Is
a twenty six point dog and they went outright. The
Hawkeys are a three point favorite at home, isn't don't
you get three points for being at home?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Where's the shock the world here?
Speaker 7 (11:19):
This was a coin flip?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It there's not. There's not there's a let's let's get
to yours there, Jason, But could I just.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Add one more thing now? He said that.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Excuse me when he said that, Uh it was It
just put a little chill down my because they played
so hard.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Penn State played song.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
They did, they did play, they did player, they did
not quit, saw on each other.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
It was a tough game. They really got all everything
thrown at Iowa. So carry on.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Game four of the NLCS, I know people were torn.
People were like, man, I'd like to see the series
extended so we could watch more baseball. I think most
people shared my paranoia as a Dodger fan. Win tonight.
Don't give them any breathing room. We all remember Kyle
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Schwarber's home run in the previous series that gave the
Phillies life. I did not want to repeat that in
Game four against Dan's Brewers. I hate that Dan had
to be the the receiver, the victim of this sweep,
but it needed to be done. We needed to put
the Brewers in the rearview mirror and focus on the
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next team, and boy did we do it in spectacular fashion.
A lot of people have overstated or tried to overstate
what shohe Otani did, but just in layman's terms, if
you're a casual baseball fan, you had a pitcher in
a I guess the what do you call those games?
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A finishing game, series, finishing.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Game, close out game, clinching hit, throw.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Home runs after doing dog crap for the first couple
series of the postseason, three home runs, one of them
cleared the wall in the pavilion, which I've never seen
done in right field anyways. And then he was throwing
one hundred miles an hour and had all five of
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his pitches working. And to the layman, I don't know
if you understand that big league pitchers typically have two
really good pitches and then they'll throw in the third
or fourth pitch as just kind of a compliment. He
pitches effectively with five pitches. He throws one hundred miles
an hour. He struck out ten batters and six innings
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while hitting three home runs through six innings of baseball.
His box score was three home runs and six innings
of pitched ball with ten strikeouts, no earned runs given up,
the greatest box score in the history of baseball. Shoheo
Tani on Friday Night. I've heard other people attempt to
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get things that are comparable. I've heard some real if
you bring something to the table that I've never heard
of in fifty years, that kind of answers the question,
like if you're like, yeah, babe, Ruth, he came in
and closed out a game once and okay, did he
hit three home runs in that same game?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I love him?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
So anyways, shohel Tani Friday night one of the greatest
experiences I've ever had on my couch.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Pause.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
That's an old timer. I'm gonna throw in one more
love because we did text about this one. I don't.
I just look, I'm not. I've never been a Russell
Wilson guy. I just because I know guys in the
NFL that always thought he was a phony. But since
the talent has seemingly like evaporated, I just I didn't
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buy in last year. I didn't buy an in Denver,
I didn't buy in this year. But man, you want
to talk about some shade. Denver scores thirty three in
the fourth quarter, comes from behind to beat the Giants, right,
And so they asked Sean Payton about the Giants where
he used to beat up fensive coordinator and about Jackson Dart.
(15:16):
Take a listen to this shade he throws at Russell
Wilson at the end.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I have a ton of respect for that organization. I
spent four of my early years there coordinating Super Bowl
first first game in this stadium before nine to eleven
close with the Marrit Tish family. You know, they found
a little spark with that quarterback. I was talking to
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John Mayor not too long ago, and I said, we
were hoping that that change would have happened long long
after our game.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Damn, we wanted to face Russell Wilson because he's thinks
he thinks.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Wow, so much shade.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh so much. They hate each each other so much.
All right, let's get to hate. Let's get to what
we hate from the weekend. Our resident hater is none
of the Jason Stewart, how about it.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I think there's like this, there's this perception that the
Chargers are all beat up and their offensive line are
down to their third stringers, and we've kind of lost
hope for probably the postseason this year. I would take
it a step further, like just watching the game yesterday,
and that was a real hate watch for me, I
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could say that we should probably not play Justin Herbert.
This is my thinking. He's gonna get killed on a
football field. I don't know how many pressures you could take.
I don't know how many times you could get hit
without that one hit that really injures you. I know
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that Herbert. I think he gets credit for being the
guy that could take a hit, but not you know,
no one's completely unsusceptible to that one breaker. It's getting dangerous.
I bring in our backup for the time being. It
was a backup that was taken I think second overall
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in the in the draft. At one point, maybe it'll
be kind of fun to throw him out there and
see how he could do until we get our guys back.
It's really scary watching Justin Herbert take snaps with that
offensive line.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Damn yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
Just off the heels of that, and maybe we dive
into it at some point. Later this week, something interesting happened.
I don't know if it's because Jason and I went
to that Bills game a couple of weeks ago, but
I feel like I'm a little more in tune and
hearing more of this Bills chatter. And after the Bills
lost this past week into the Falcons. I read a
tweet that someone was complaining saying, like the window like
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the it is time to start complaining about not taking
making care of your star quarterback. And the Chargers, understandably
so have injuries. I almost feel like they've done a
better job of taking care of their quarterback than Buffalo
has had. But at what point do you start looking
at failures of not supporting your quarterback And it's happening
in Buffalo, and just wonder when that time comes for
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the Chargers, because I think I still think there's a
different conversation about the Chargers with Justin Herbert and what
they have around him, and those injuries cloud that up. Anyway,
mind stays in the NFL will make it quick. The
Cardinals decided to go for it on fourth down up
twenty three to twenty on the Packers yesterday with six
minutes to go, and they run a Jacoby Brissette sneak
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up the middle at their own forty eight yard line.
Don't get it. It allows Green Bay to have a
game winning drive.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Now.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
The Packers made plays on their drive, a fourth and
two that they converted, didn't settle for a field goal.
But if Jonathan Gannon is going to slap a Maari
de Marcado because of his bad decision on the touchdown,
then maybe Jonathan Gannon should have something happened to him
because he, yes, he made an awful decision to go
for it up three yesterday against Green Bay and likely
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cost his Cardinals the game.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Sam okay, I think Sam maybe worthing here.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I'm here.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
I'm here, so again, like I said, my love portion
not a lot to complain about on your birthday weekend,
A lot of love, I will say, though, Florida firing
Billy Napier after they win a game. And it wasn't
like they climbed back to beat Mississippi State. Who's you
know right now, a cellar dweller in the SEC. They
had a twenty to seven lead and they held on
(19:43):
to win, like twenty three to twenty one. But firing
a coach after a win, and I know they've been struggling,
but firing coach after a win. And so it's like
all these mid midyear firings for these coaches are sort
of like raising my blood pressure.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
And then I saw that Napier was fired after a win.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
I was just like, why, this is.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Why you know?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
We did a game time of college programs that we,
you know, kind of like to see do better. Yeah,
Florida will never be on that list. Like I I'm
glad that Florida is mid to mediocre to maybe bad.
Like I don't. I don't need to see Florida good.
We had too much Florida at one time with football
and basketball. I don't ever need to see the Gators
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good again at anything.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Don't you really? Alright? I got something I hate?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I heard Cam Newton say this. Oh I'm sorry about so.
Cam Newton on a on a podcast was asked if
he would rather have team success or personal success. Okay,
(20:53):
take a listen to his his answer.
Speaker 10 (20:55):
Would you rather be in a spot where you can
individually achieve, have success, have statistics and lose or would
you want to be someone that contributes to a team
that can win a super Bowl?
Speaker 7 (21:07):
And I'm glad you asked that.
Speaker 11 (21:09):
When you're talking about individual play, this is how I
this is how I take care of my family. Team
success don't take care of my family. So if I'm
thinking about it from a personal standpoint, of course, we want.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
The best of both.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Worlds.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
But if you're asking me, what gives you extensions, what
gives you top tier money, what gives you certain things,
there are some more players that have rings, championships and things.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
That are struggling rather than quote unquote bus that has
had money and they're doing right by their money.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, feel free to point out to who those people are.
By the way, Cam Newton is who he is because
he won a national championship in college. You want a
Heisman trophy because you want a national championship in college. Right,
And look again, Kim is being authentic to himself. I'm
not accusing of inauthenticity. I just witch this is love
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and hate. I just hate this. I hated the fact
that they're down six points in the Super Bowl to
the Denver Broncos who have no offense because Peyton Manning
is washed done balls on the field and he does
not dive on it. He was asked afterwards and he said, man,
I gotta watch out my legs. Then he goes home
to Carolina and he doubles down on it. He's never
(22:26):
been about team Cam is about Cam Newton, which, by
the way, is so funny because he basically used his
podcast his platform to guilt ESPN into putting him on TV, like, oh,
they're racist, they don't like the way I talk, they
don't like the way I dress. I don't get a shot. No,
(22:47):
we don't like it because you were selfish, you were
never accurate, didn't evolve as a passer, you didn't even
understand who you were. Super talented, huge egomaniac. And I
just hate that he puts it out there so that
there is going to be a portion of young, up
and coming athletes who emulate that that's not how you
get paid. That's actually the opposite. People pay more for
(23:08):
winners than they do for stat accumulators. And if we
want to do what we can do a podcast, do
a study on it. I know it to be true.
That's love and hate.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
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Speaker 1 (23:28):
Live check that bad if I'm me stug out leap
show here on Fox Sports Radio. A lot of three
word senses which are very disarming. Right, none as much
as I was wrong. And while we all tuned in
against the Eagles, week one of the season, really to
(23:49):
watch the Cowboys get destroyed. Funny thing happened in the
way of to that destruction was the Cowboys were super competitive. Now,
it hasn't been great all year. They have had some injuries,
but I think they're really well coached. I think they're
pretty good. I don't think they're good a great. I
think they're average and really fun to watch offensively, and
(24:12):
Dak Prescott looks like the best version himself, and I
just think at some point people need to suck it
up and go. You know what, Jerry picked Brian Schottenheimer
because he felt like he gave him the best chance
to get the most out of his best player, right
most out of his best players, best players Dak Prescott,
and his highest played players, Dak Prescott. And he wanted
(24:34):
to get the most out of Dak Prescott, and the
best thing to do was keep him in the offense
that he's familiar with, keep him playing for a guy
who he really likes playing with, and surround him with
some really good skill persion. Guys, I was wrong, we
are wrong about I mean, I was willing to give
Brian shot Hiber a chance, but I mean Dan, I
(24:55):
don't remember what your commentary was. But of course Brian
schotten Humber once upon time was the offense of coordinator
for the Seahawks, and he was always under fire. And
I would say that Schottenheimer's under fire two things. One like,
he didn't have spectacular offenses that lit up scoreboards. That's fair,
that wasn't what Russell Wilson did. By the way, they
still won games.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Well, let me just interrupt there, because Russell Wilson under
Bron Schottenheimer was on his way to his best career year,
MVP caliber year, until Pete Carroll said hold up, hold up,
and kind.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Of wait minute, wait minute.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
It was it was that they had a game in
Buffaloes during COVID and Russell Wilson turned it over a
couple of times for again like having seven straight weeks
of great play, MVP caliber, play, top of the line.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Play, great job.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Then Brian Schottenheimer was told by Pete Carroll that's this
is not how we're gonna play after one bad game
in Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, okay, I think that Brian Schottenheimer suffers from last
name syndrome. Right like his dad was super super super conservative.
His dad's teams were great in the regular season, and
they would get really tightly, really conservative, and they lost
early in the postseason Kansas City and in San Diego,
(26:16):
and so there's that automatic was Dad never won. Big
Dad's all of favor, but you know whatever, And then
you know when they were in Seattle, there's just never
been people somebody that wraps their arms around Brian shot
and emers like that guy's boy genius. I gotta tell you,
I think they do a good job in Dallas. I'm
not a Cowboys fan. I love it when they lose.
(26:36):
I enjoy watching them play. They play a fun brand
of football. I was just gonna say, we it's like
we watch it with the Jets. You want to wrap
the wrap the and that's how do you how do
you usually wrap up back to you, Doug, back you
to thank you. Sorry. I'll that's better. You know, Like
(27:00):
we're watching what's happening with the Jets. And we've seen
head coaches in their first year not make it through
to their second year, or we've seen guys that are
just they're in over their head, they're swimming upstream the
first year, they say dumb stuff or whatever. I don't
remember a guy who was as beloved as like seen
(27:21):
as kind of clever and different and quirky, but like
the new age of cod like we've had in Miami
to go from that to here where they're like the
laughing stock of the league. And by the way, there
is a certain I know it was his swag when
they were winning, but I'm watching him yesterday and he's
(27:41):
wearing the gold rim glasses and I'm like, dude, what
are you doing. He does appear to be very vain.
He just does a in a really kind of monotone,
very normal. I'm trying to be the football nerd or whatever,
but like, dude, you're wearing gold rim glasses and the
NFL game when your team is kind of the laughingstock
(28:02):
of the league. Like, I don't know, Mike McDaniel, I
don't remember anything starting out so well and going this badly.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
And then there's the sub conversation on Twitter. I think
the barstool guys started this. Big cat the Capri wears
the Aaron Glenn wears Caprice, as does Mike mccaniel, and
it's it's not becoming of a head coach. You you
should be able to wear you have to wear pants
full pants that go down to your feet capris look
(28:29):
utterly ridiculous. Now, Sean mcvayh has been doing it for
a while and he doesn't get the crap that those
two other guys do because to Super Bowl it still
looks ridiculous on McVeigh.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Listen, listen, it's it's all all it matters to win lose,
all that matters. It was like Mike Nolan wore that
were tie to honor his dad, right, he had to
get a special when he was with the San Francisco
fort nine ers. Had he won with it, it would
have become a trend. But he didn't win with it,
and so it's like he's the guy was trying too hard.
(29:02):
And that's what Mike mcdan looks like. You're just trying
too hard to be hip and cool just coach a
football team. But when they were winning, it was cool.
It was cool. It was cool. Uh Okay, So in
order of games tonight, this is an interesting one. Like,
you guys are both big baseball guys, but that Tampa
(29:24):
Detroit game, which used to be a divisional matchup, that's
I honestly, that's what Dan Byer's thinking. I remember when
they were in the same division.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Yes, at FFC Central.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Right, You're like, wait, on's in Detroit, one's in Tampa.
How does that make sense? Don't worry. The Braves used
to be in the NL West with the Dodgers, right,
and I think the I think the Falcons used to
be in the in the NFC West. Yes.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Well.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
In fact, last night's game against the Niners brought this
up on the I Want Your Flex pod Ian roddy
Are executive producer has no recollection of the Falcons and Niners.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Being in the same division.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Sure, sure, Now the Cowboys still don't make sense. Cowboys
shouldn't be in the East.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Right, That's correct, But Jerry Jones gets his way.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I do think this is a great time to bring
this up about the Lions Bucks. So for those listeners
who don't know, I've been fading Colin Cowherd for six weeks,
starting Week one, I have bet against the team that
he most liked. So every week he'll he'll give the
blazon five, but he'll always say this is my favorite
bet of the week, and he's own six. Does anyone
(30:32):
here know how hard it is to go owen six
if you laid a sixteen parlay. You're getting paid a
ton of money. You could try to go owen six
and you wouldn't go own six. So I don't want
to tell our listeners what to bet tonight or what
I'm putting extra money on.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But I like the Lions to win in cover. Uh,
So you're saying put it all on Tampa, let it ride.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
I saw a graphic. Kudos to ESPN. They called it
the Lion's second secondary because they have no one available
from their week one opener in their secondary tonight.
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a new coach, they just need more money. That's next.
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Dan Bayer get me to the press.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
The press.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
We're going to start out in college football because it's
been an interesting day. Florida State making and announcement that
they will discuss Mike Norvell's future as head coach after
the season, and then in Madison, Wisconsin athletic director Chris
McIntosh releasing a statement saying that while he and head
coach Luke Fickle understand that this season has been a disappointment,
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that they both see potential in what this team can
be against the Again, the Badger's coming off back to
back weeks of being shut out at home. But in
the statement, Macintosh said, as a department, we must provide
our coaches the tools necessary to succeed. That means more
athletics funded investments into infrastructure, staffing, and most importantly, student
(33:21):
athlete recruiting and retention. In this new era of college athletics,
the clear reality is that high expectations must be matched
with an equal level of support.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
We don't have enough money, Yep, that's what they're saying.
We ain't got enough money to give the guy a
fair shot. And look, I've Mike Gundy up until the
last two years. He had one bad year with his
first year one, so either he suddenly forgot how to
(33:57):
put together football team or they didn't have money the
year before, and this is their first year playing the
portal again. You're allowed to fire these coaches, but be
realistic about it. And I think what Wisconsin's getting at
is this Dan It's it's not that they can't afford
to fire him. It's not that they can't afford to
(34:21):
put more money into football. They can't afford to do both, right,
it's twenty million dollars buyout, yes, plus the assistant coaches.
That's thirty million dollars. Plus you got to come up
with probably fifteen twenty million dollars for a new coach
and then twenty million dollars for a whole new team.
You don't have that. So the smartest way to do
it is, hey, let's save that buyout money and just
(34:43):
go all in. Now, if Fickle's really smart, what he
will do is you'll go like, hey, here's what I'll do.
Let me cut my salary and I want to put
that directly into the player pool. And you know, if
you want to protect yourself with more buyout, fine, But
I that's that. Wisconsin's not saying they don't have money.
They're not saying they can't buy them out. They don't
have what they're saying they don't have money for both.
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That's a reality.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
This was the tortilla statement made by Texas Tech ad
the Kirby Hawk cut earlier.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
Today.
Speaker 12 (35:11):
Stakes are too high and we need to help not
risk penalizing our team again for throwing tortillas. Simply just
not do it. The situation is on me. I leaned
into this of throwing tortillas at the beginning of the
football season. Now I must ask everyone to.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Stop of the things you thought you would like. When
you're Kirby Hoko, you're like, hey man, you have to
be you know, athletic director at Texas Tech, finally got
a bunch of money, got a top ten ranked basketball team,
had a top ten rank football team. Whatever. What do
you think you'll be talking about at a press conference?
(35:48):
Oh so, gret I love sports.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Couldn't you have made that that announcement tomorrow on Taco Tuesday?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh? Oh, the ever the marketing genius. By the way,
we got to do a pod tomorrow. Did you guys
see the Ringers story on Russell Westbrook at his time
in LA with the Lakers.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
No, I didn't all the stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
We make fun of Lebron about being a phony, about
and then some and then some. Russell Westbrook is smacking back.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
I'll tell you what I know. Mike Singletary went to Baylor.
But Texas Tech should play this on the scoreboard. If
fans are throwing tortillas.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Cannot win with him, can not coach with him.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
Can't do it, can't do it.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Can't do it. Can't do all those tortillas in the field,
can't do it. You do with those crazy eyes too.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
All right, here's your Jets situation. Aaron Glenn not committing
to Justin Fields or Tarrod Taylor on who's going to
start in Week eight against the Bengals.
Speaker 11 (36:50):
I want to make sure that I make the right decision,
and I don't want to make red decisions either.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
That from the Jets head coach.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
He hasn't won a lot of press officers this year.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Let me just tell you, well, at least they're talking
about his pants right now and not the record. Bryce
Young likely to miss time, Andy Dalton the star for
the Panthers again, no practice for Lamar Jackson for the
Ravens today, Jade and Daniel's hamstring injury not serious but
not a guarantee to face the Chiefs next week. And
Michael Pennock's junior day to day with a bone bruise
(37:20):
in his foot to a tongue of Ailoa will start
a quarterback for the Dolphins in Week eight against those Falcons.
And Christian Brown getting a five year extension with the Nuggets.
And that's the press.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Bagget out there and pressed that was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
The best text of the weekend on the group chat
was Dan Byers saying all the old quarterbacks are good
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