August 11, 2025 • 39 mins
Doug and the crew react to the weekend in sports with the latest edition of Love & Hate. Doug explains why he takes issue with the AP Preseason Poll. National NFL Writer for The Athletic Mike Jones joins Doug to give the latest on Matt Stafford, Shedeur Sanders, Aaron Rodgers, and much more. Plus, the guys have the wild details on the wellness chamber that Matt Stafford spent today's practice in!
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We got Mike Jones, national NFL writer for the Athletic
He's set to join us. The AP preseason poll will
has been released. We talked about poles last week. I'll
talk about them some more this week. We'll go through
some of these teams. But it's really the silliest thing
(00:43):
ever right where you no one knows who's playing where
for whom, and yet you know writers are expected to
make these picks.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's just we'll get to that. Plus we had the press,
well we.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Do this every Monday where we kind of go around
the room share our positive thoughts our negative thoughts.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
We call it love it hate?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
What did you love?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
God?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I love you?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
These Claire haters?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Love love love love love love love love love. This
is the Doug Otliep Show on Fox Sports Radio. Isaac
Loncron Love, Ah, Chris Prophet, Love of Detroit Sports, Firs Shinger,
just love.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's right, love A. Let's talk with you. I love.
What was you left on the weekend?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Sorry, the context of that labeling was interesting to me. Rebound, rebound, ilo, rebound,
All right, Well, actually mine is along those lines. And
I just discovered this a short time ago when thinking
about this. Uh, this is actually a pretty funny thing
that I enjoyed over the weekends. New England Patriots receiver
(02:02):
that the headline here is reporter asks Patriot receiver for
his wife's phone number. So here's the context that I'll
play the audio. Kendrick Bourne, uh, speaking with reporters covering
the Patriots, and one of the reporters complimented the clothes
he was wearing that day, and Kendrick Bourne very proudly
(02:23):
said that his wife was his stylist. And then the
reporter goes on to ask Bourne for his wife's phone number,
and it was a pretty funny exchange.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Listen, my wife is actually my style of shot out
to my wife.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
She's gonna love this.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
She puts it all together for me, so she's doing good.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
I don't know what she got ready for me, but
we'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, she's behind it all.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
She's can you give her?
Speaker 7 (02:48):
Can you get it?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Can I get a number?
Speaker 7 (02:50):
In the respectful way.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
For the strictly wardrobe part of life?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Hold on, hold on, hold on? What does he ask?
What do you ask me? All business card? Our instagram
has Vanessa Bourne, Go check around. That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
That's so funny, and now all our listeners have her Instagram.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But yeah, I thought that was hilarious. So that amused
me to no end.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I'll tell you what I loved.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I love the announcement that the UFC is coming to
Paramount Plus and there'll be no increase in fees I
guess as of now, so no more pay per views
for UFC. Seven billion dollars. That's crazy, seven billion dollars.
And what that means is that there's obviously the belief
(03:39):
there that UFC fight fans will follow wherever Dana and
Mark Shapiro says, to go, and I think that's very possible.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
In the in the uh what's it called? The wars of.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
All these different networks, you know you have you go
with the NFL and ESPN tying to them, and then
with CBS you know they have some properties. But get
in the UFC, and I think NBC has done really well.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I know Fox is launched in their app, but it's
the content that feels like it's missing. I'll be interesting
to see what they have on it. But the love
the UFC being not free, but being a monthly fee
with paramount. And maybe it's because I already had paramount
plus that might be it. I love what that means.
(04:38):
You have paramount plus two, all right, Chris Prophet, which
you let for the weekend.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
So I know, I think some baseball fans were kind
of mixed on it, But I always enjoy when baseball
can go on the road and have a bit of
a spectacle, and I think nothing exemplified that more than
go into Bristol Motor Speedway putting on a baseball game.
We had the Reds and the why am I blanking
all of a sudden Reds and Braves and I think
(05:08):
the thing I really love for that is I saw
a couple guys and they must have been this must
have been guys who are working in the crew, And
when you get to work in the crew, you get
to find the nice spots at a venue like this.
Because there was a shot during the Fox broadcast two
guys hanging up in the jumbo tron which was being
suspended by why being suspended over the middle of a field,
(05:32):
just kind of hanging up there. I think on the
Fox broadcast they like just zoomed in up there. And
by the way, this was after like I think rains
had delayed the game by a day. I think that's
right Bush something. Yeah, Okay, just just just making sure
my memory I've been you know, I'm all over the place,
but that was seeing those guys hanging up there. I'm like, yeah,
(05:55):
that's cool. I love that. I'd love to be able
to hang up just there, just just on this giant
piece of metal, hoping it doesn't crash down with only
wires hanging it up and watch a baseball game.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Nice, Chris, I mean, I'm Ryan Burschere.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
So on Friday night in baseball, we had a great game.
It was a headline matchup and it turned out to
be a great game. And that was the Blue Jays
visiting the Dodgers in LA, with Max Scherzer and Clayton
Kershaw facing off on the mound, and the matchup delivered.
This is probably the last time these two will ever meet,
which apparently had been the first time they had met
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since they met as rookies seventeen years ago, which is awesome.
Of course, the two of them certainly first ballot Hall
of famers and both pitched very well. Kershaw through six
innings of one run ball, and he did that despite
never topping eighty eight miles an hour, which not many
pitchers can do. So great to see Kershaw performing so
(06:55):
well Right now, Max schers are six innings of two
run ball as well, those only the two runs coming
on Mookie Bets hitting a two run shot, which also
I love because Mookie's really been struggling for quite a
bit now, but he had a pretty solid week at
the plate and that two run home run his first
home run in nearly a month, so it was great
to see him getting things going. As I said, turned
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out to be a beautiful night of baseball, a great
game between two of the very best that we have
seen on the mound in the past couple decades, and
the Dodgers ended up taking two of three from the
Blue Jays in LA, which is, as you mentioned, a
big deal because of the fact that they had been
struggling for so long. The Blue Jays are a very
strong team, the best in the al right now, So
(07:40):
loved that. Just a great weekend of baseball in LA.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend. Oh, sorry,
you prefet with Javi in the weekend.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
So I'm going to Detroit Lions here, I know, shock surprise,
but we have the preseason game, the second preseason game
for the Lions, the first for the Falcons, So Lions Falcons,
and I could have hated a lot of stuff I
saw with Henn and Hooker, but I'm not going there.
It's something that happened near the end of that game.
(08:15):
I believe it was like a minute into the fourth quarter,
Maurice Norris gets hit. I'm still kind of a little
unclear on the injury itself because I was like also
working out at the time, so I was kind of
half paying attention. I understand there might have been like
a seizure involved or something, but ambulance has to come
onto the field to take him off. Everyone is, of course,
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you know, shaken up over this. This is not something
anyone who ever wants to see in a preseason game.
And then the then Dan Campbell and Maurice and Raheem
Morris come together and decide, Hey, we're gonna kneel out
the We're basically gonna kneel out the clock. There's fourteen
minutes left in this game, but nobody really wants to continue,
especially when we got joint practices and everyone's worried about Norris,
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so we're going to just have to. It was the
most bizarre thing I've seen, just guys sitting around for
fourteen minutes running off the clock to end the game.
And what I hate about this is that there's no
way to stop the game. That apparently, eventually, sole power
to suspend an NFL game, even in the preseason rests
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with the Central Office, which I understand, but the Central
Office saw no reason to stop this game when both
teams are like, hey, we don't want to play it anymore,
and I'm just it. I tell you, I tell you, Doug,
it was the most weird thing I've seen. Fourteen minutes
of guys waiting to go home, waiting to go home
at when neither side intends to continue this game. And
(09:43):
I just I don't understand why there's no mechanism here
for this. I understand we don't really do this in
the regular season, but it's preseason.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Come on, Uh, pretty good one. I love it again.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
It's actually related to this, it's sort of a different component.
So the Lions tweeted a statement saying that after this
happened that Norris has had feeling and movement in all
his extremities, which was the news we were all hoping
(10:16):
for when the scary thing happened, and a comment or
who goes by the handle at Roxy the Doodle posted
and I quote, are.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
They going to refund the picks? There were numerous parlays
about to hit and it's over with nearly a quarter
to play.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Unquote at Roxy the Doodle, perhaps the worst person who
lives among us.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I saw some other comments that were in that neighborhood.
That's pretty bad one.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
All right, there, Ryan, what you got?
Speaker 7 (10:54):
So my hate for the weekend is just I guess
it's the cognitive dissonance I feel with the NFL preseason
in general, as you said off the top of the show,
we're all getting ready for football. We're very much in
the mood for football to return, not just the NFL
but college as well. But the NFL preseason when these
games come on, it looks like the real NFL. It
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feels kind of like the real NFL, but it's it's
still not, so you kind of like, it just feels
weird watching these games and trying to put any stock
in anything. Definitely, of course, with guys like Shudhar Sanders
and and a lot of different you know, rookie quarterbacks,
you're getting their first taste of action. That stuff's significant.
But for the most part, like obviously you can't really
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look at the scoreboard, you can't really look at a
lot of these veterans who are just kind of getting
their reps in. It's just it's not like spring training,
where spring training, you know, looks and feels very obviously
different and it's just nice to return to normal. It's
not like NBA preseason because you know, NBA, the first
part of the NBA season doesn't even feel like the
NBA season. The NFL preseason is just it just feels
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so odd because I'm I'm so ready for football to
come back, and yet I see it and I just
can't accept it. Still, it just makes me even more
anxious and ready for these real games to get going.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Just an odd thing when you got to cut down
from ninety to fifty three men and it's like these
games now take on the importance of trying to scout
those guys. Can I throw in one more real quick
hate about the preseason just side?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah? Yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
Loop, I forget his first name. The Ravens kicker hit
a seventy yarder right, a seventy yard field goal in
the preseason. It was a big deal. Everyone went nuts
over this. I have a problem with this. I don't
like the idea that kickers can now hit from a
range where they're not even in opposing the opposing team's territory.
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I think it enables incredibly cowardly coaching. I didn't like
this because I'm seeing it as a force. I know
we're not gonna hit seventy yarders in the rag, but
it really it annoys me.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I keep thinking, you say, on the on the rag?
Speaker 8 (13:07):
Yes, okay, yes, I keep thinking of you know what,
you know how uh Nick Saban lost the kick six
game because he decided to trot out a true freshman
kicker for what was that a sixty sixty plus yard
field goal? I don't call it being just over fifty
as I recall, I think it was fifty six either way.
Like these long range field goals, I keep thinking of
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someone like Kirk Ferentz. What if he had a kicker
who could hit from seventy yards. You're telling Kirk Ferentz
in his Iowa offense, you don't even need to cross
midfield to score points. He'll he'll have a full back.
He'll have a full back fall on the ball to
center it. When at the logo, I don't like this, Gota.
We got to stop these long range field This is impressive,
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But like I'm looking three steps down the road here.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
This is a really good issue because I think this
is going to increasingly become more of a topic of conversation, Doug,
in my opinion, because you know, when you and I
were growing up, the real limit was fifty yards and
it was a real tall order anything besides that, I
actually think this is going to be a big issue
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that's going to be talked about in years to come
as these ranges keep increasing.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I mean remember you can if you miss it,
that's where the spot of the ball is right. Also
you can return at the old tick six, So there
are some penalties for if you don't you can't complete
the the madfield goal.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'll tell you it's I'll tell what I hate. I
hate the a people.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Now it's not just because you have writers commenting, right,
Like the eight people is associated press can be anybody.
But what's I think most interesting about the It can
be anybody?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Is it? Literally? Is anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Like ask like Brady, Quinn and LeVar probably know a
little bit more about football than we do. Especially Brady
covers more college football, right, the guys on college game Day,
the guys on big noon kickoff, Like that's who should
be voting in this poll.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
US first thing.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Second thing is like you got no idea Like Boise
States ranked twenty five, why because they're in the College
foot Playoff last year? Yeah, well Ashton genty was their
whole offense. They lost a bunch from last year, and
like you don't know about it? These portal guys none, how.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Do I know?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
We don't know the coaches don't know, get fifteen practice together,
then they go play. So I just I, you know,
always had a problem. Today people are now even worse.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Hey, Doug, Actually along those lines, I'd like to ask
you a follow up, both as a media member and
now as a coach. I know there's coaches polls in
both college football and basketball, and the big rumor going
around is the coaches themselves are just too busy to
do the polls, so their sid person does it for
them with the coaches pulled. But have Poles kind of
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outlived their usefulness? I mean if Poles went away?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I mean sort of. I mean yeah, I think they
have and they haven't. You know, they have in that
they've They just need to evolve. You know.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's like even who votes for the Heisman Trophy, Like
you shouldn't vote for he Eichman Trophy if you cover
one college football team, how do you watch everything?
Speaker 8 (16:18):
I do think as a fan to ILO's point, like
I definitely pay a lot less attention to the polls,
especially preseason polls have always been kind of suspect, but
especially on these polls, like they don't matter at all
to the college football playoffs. Those are the real rankings
we're looking for. It's not like the BCS is still
using the Coach's Poll or that the AP crowns a
national champion anymore. They just kind of feel like we're
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just kind of biding our times, trying to hope that
we can predict what the College Football Playoff Committee is
going to say in their rankings, which don't come out
until like late in the season.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Now, Yeah, I think, I just I still think they
should exist because people and say they don't care about polls,
then their teams, right number one are not ranked and
they get pissed, right, and they get pissed. So I
definitely think that poles should still exist. I just think
we got to be smarter about them. And I just
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am not really convinced that the preseason polls and the
creases and polls are great for fodder. They just are
good discussions come out of it. By the way, Arizona
State's in the top fifteen, Like, didn't they lose Camskataboo
and most of their team from last year, but you
know they have you bring in new players and on
paper they look great, but you have no idea how
they're going to play together. So Uh yeah, I mean
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I don't know if they've added list their usefulness. I
think there's I think they're part of the data that
we should have.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
It's what people think.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But I'm just pointing out the flaws in like we
have a poll on teams that have just started having
actual practice together, remember no spring games, and some of
these teams, I just I don't know where they're getting
their rankings.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Hey, speaking of rankings, just one last thing on this,
I mean, are we getting to the point where we
could see, like a I come up with like a
legitimate way to rank college football teams using all these
crazy analytics in five years?
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Farness, isn't that what the BCS was?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Good point? Good point? Boy, do a lot of gigabytes ago?
Good point, a.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Lot of gigabytes go? And that is game ten? There's
two I mean, not Canton. That's love and hate? Right,
isn't there a love and hate clothes? I think it's
I think so anyway, this is the Doug Gotlieb Show
here on Box. I'm doing my own sound effects as
well today. That's that's what I'm doing. Uh, we'll get
you back to the NFL and figure out what's really
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going on in Cleveland, what's really going on in Dallas?
Shore Sanders played well? Does he move up to depth chart?
And when's Michael Parts? Is gonna be a cowboy?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
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All right, Stug Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's catch up with Mike Jones, national NFL writer for
the Athletic and Michael Let's start with Shor Sanders. We
were all waiting to see how he played. He played
after some early you know, some early nerves and some
uneven play, played really well in his third, fourth, maybe
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even fifth drive.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
What's just do with him?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Though?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
For the with the Browns and the standing in the depth.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Chart, well, I think it put some pressure on Kenny
Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. Now both those guys have been
a little banged up here and there. But I think
that Kevin Spigginsky said it, you know that he was
going to get a lot more opportunities in practice as
he should. I mean, the kid had not had a
whole lot of action in team drills, and he, like
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he said, yeah, it was a little bit of rough start,
but then once he got into a rhythm, he directed
some really nice drives, made some great throws, made some
good decisions, and so I think that was as good
an opportunity as sure could have hope for. And so
then this should earn him opportunity that he can move
on and now have an opportunity to compete for that
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number two spot, I think behind Joe Flacco. And we'll
see how this thing continues to play out. I wouldn't
be surprised we wind up seeing him starting at some
point this year.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get
to Micah Parsons. Uh, still there, just not working out.
He's got a bad bad back, yes, bad back. They're
they're they're not gonna they're not gonna trade him. They
can franchise tag him. At some point in time they
thought they had a deal done. When is that time
they actually have a deal done.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
I I think, you know, maybe the week before the season,
something like that. We've seen Jerry Jones do this before.
He loves this drama. He dragged us out. He cost
himself way more money than he should if he just
took care of things, you know, in a prompt manner. Yes,
it kind of you know, incouraged ill will between some
of his players. You see frustrations by those guys, you know.
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Ceedee Lamb even took to Twitter to express some frustration
of the whole situation. But they're they're not gonna let
him go anywhere. They're gonna wind up getting this thing
taken care of. It's silly, but this is the way
that Jerry Jones show always.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Goes Steut Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mike
Jones are guest National NFL writer for the Athletic Have
Like Stafford, he was supposed to throw today, he doesn't practice.
Today's back some mess. You go back a couple of
years ago thoughts of retiring because of that back. How
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does it play on LA.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, I mean, it's going to be interesting to see.
They're trying to be careful. They don't want to rush
him along. They want him out there when he's really
good and ready right now. Look, he knows the offensive
inside and out. Yes, you would like him to get reps,
but it's not absolutely necessary. I don't know how this
plays out. It doesn't sound good. You've had the whole
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off season to rest here, But as of right now,
there haven't had any talk or plans of surgery. So
I guess they're seeing what kind of treatments they can
provide to continue to alleviate things and see how he
can handle it. But there's a lot riding on this
because they really were trending upward in the right direction
last year after you know, a couple of lean years,
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grouping and retooling, and he could be a difference maker.
They have an opportunity to win their division if he's healthy,
but if not, then it's really a big blow to
their opportunity, their chances for this year.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, it's crazy. If you don't have him, it's a
completely different team. And obviously he's a super Bowl champion quarterback,
but man, he's been held together by duct tape really
of late. Okay, Aaron Rodgers, what are you hearing about
how he looks?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I mean, look again, it's practice. He hasn't seen like
actual real defenses when they're coming at you and everything.
I mean, he's okay, he's picking up the offense. Obviously,
from all accounts, Arthur Smith is really working to kind
of blend what they like to do to what he
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likes to do. We've seen we think of Arthur Smith
as a guy who's a really conservative run the ball
and things. But I think that what he does is
he uses and maximizes what he has to work with.
They had a really bad quarterback situation when he was
there in Atlanta. We saw him, you know, with great
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creativity In Tennessee, he pivoted as the offensive coordinator away
from Marcus Mariota to Ryan Tannehill. He can adapt and
adjust his playbook. And having a guy like Aaron Rodgers's
got all the knowledge in the world, he'll be just fine. Now,
ability wise, mobility wise, is Aaron Rodgers still as quick
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as he was? No? Can he gets the ball out
of his hands quickly? Yes, we'll see. Though they don't
have their number two and number three options at wide
receiver are pretty you know farse. They do have you know,
help at tight end. We'll see what they can do
with those guys. This is gonna be interesting to see.
They're going to have you know, joint practice with the
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Buccaneers on Thursday, and that'll be, you know, a good
test for them. He's going against the defense that he
has seen before and see how he adapts and adjust
executing this new offense.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Caleb Williams,
you know, we go back a week ago and people
were talking about he can't throw into a net and
he struggled in open scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
What are you hearing in Chicago?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, you know I would have liked to have seen,
you know, what he was going to do in the preseason.
I guess, well, you know, we'll see what's happening there.
It looks Ben Johnson is a very creative mind. He
also is demanding to We saw the backup quarterbacks play
with a lot of boys. We'll see what happens when
they get to the game speed. With Caleb Williams, he
looks he is learning. He is young. He was in
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a situation last year where he had three different offensive
play callers, you know, and so he's having to relearn
a lot of things. And when you are learning and
you're thinking you're not playing as fast and as fluid
as you can, doesn't mean that he can't wind up being,
you know, a talented guy. They've definitely, you know, put
there are resources into an offensive line that could better
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protect him. I think he was sacked more than any
of the quarterback last year. So they're hoping that pass
protection will be better and hopefully that'll help his execution
be better. But this is going to be a process.
He's not going to come out in Week one and
look like you know, Patrick Mahomes or anything like that.
It's gonna be a gradual process. New offense, the first
time head coach, even though you know he's a talented
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offensive mind. And we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Mike, What about Russell Wilson and the Giants, right this
is literally his last stop if he can't figure it out,
and they draft Jackson Dart who plays really well in
the preseason game. What are you hearing about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, well, look, this is still his job, you know,
for now, You guess jack and Dart looked pretty good.
But we got to remember he was going against the defense.
The defense coordinator didn't game plan for him. They didn't
study him, you know, come back, you know once they're
actually their game planning in and really planning and scheming
on how to take away your strengths and weaknesses. And
(27:05):
so I think that the best plan for them is
if Russell Wilson can keep this thing afloat while you
continue to develop Jackson Dark. They need to win. They
have been in the you know, disappointment. They have not
been able to build on a couple of years ago
when they made it to the playoffs with Daniel Jones,
say Kwon Barkley and so there's a lot of pressure
(27:25):
on a lot of people there, Brian Dable, you know,
Joe Shane, and they're hoping Russell Wilson can can help
them bounce back and be the bridge guy.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
But I will see awesome stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I'm I'm really intrigued in in Gino and the Raiders, Right,
Gino and Raiders. You know, brock Powers obviously elite from
the time he got in the league last year, and
we know how Pete wants to build it. And you
know Gino had kind of leveled off was last year
or so in Seattle, but a solid veteran and he
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just haven't had a quarterback in a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Right, What are the Raiders look like?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, well, I think that this is going to be
something where he's going to help bring stability there. Like
you said, they haven't had you know, they got Jimmy Garoppolo,
but he was you know, you know, I mean his
back was an issue and everything like that. They've had,
you know, so much turnover at the head coaching position,
you know, talent wise, talent evaluator GM, They've had changes.
But I think that Gino has a head coach who
(28:25):
really grasps his strength and his weaknesses and what he
can do for you, and he'll help bring stability. And again, look,
I think they're behind the Chargers, they're behind the Broncos
and certainly behind the Chiefs, but they have something they
can start having a better foundation to start trying to
build this under Pete Carroll. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I'll be interesting to see the Chargers though, because when
you lose your star left tackle, granted you slide you
alt over there, but I think there's there's going to
be some falloff. Mike, great stuff as always, Man, thanks
for joining us. We'll talk to you very very soon.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
All Right, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
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Speaker 2 (29:26):
Of a wellness chamber. What does that mean? Oh, you're
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(29:55):
How long until we have Monday Night Football? How many
days until football is played again? Real football is being
played again? We do have some interesting baseball as a
Dodgers Angels Freeway series, eh, eh, and you got to course,
Philly's Red's probably the premiere series going on right now.
(30:17):
But we don't need to preview all those Instead, let's
get you to Eaglon and Crown with the press.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The press.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Okay, Doug, what we've been talking about throughout the day.
Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford did not practice today.
He is continuing to recover from an aggravated disc in
his back. He was spotted at practice today entering something
called an Immortal Wellness Chamber, a mortal spelled AMMO rt
(30:55):
a L. Now for most outlets for sports media information,
it would end there, but we have further information for
your listening enjoyment now. The Immortal Wellness Chamber contains the
following multi wave pulsed electromagnetic fields, vibroacoustic sound therapy, multi
(31:22):
wavelength light therapy, and molecular hydrogen now. Sean McVeagh said
a short time ago that Stafford was only using the
chamber today for the multi wavelength light therapy, adding that
the chamber is available to every player now. According to
its own website, this chamber is where quote ancient insight
(31:47):
meets modern tech. It also features embedded sacred geometry and
other symbology, plus earth tones and subtle textures combine to
suggest the profound nature of the chamber and the intention
that drove our approach.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
We should add this is all inside of a refurbished
airstream camp or two.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I think that's what they meant by the earth tones
and subtle textures. I'm sure of aluminum. Yes, of aluminum, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So you know, I I just I do. I love
some of those therapies. We have a place in town
we use. But the fact that they named it and
it just gives it a little weird just it's became
very la, you know, became very la.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
I have a problem with this in one case, and
that like, I'm not totally against the stuff, but they're
selling this chamber for like for a deposit.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
No, no, that's where I was going next. Ho O, Okay,
I'm sorry you no, no, no, no, no, You're fine. Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
That brings us to this dig. I want you, Doug
to guess the retail price of the Immortal Wellness Chamber.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Actually close, yet still not so close. I looked on
their website and it said fifteen nine hundred and fifty dollars,
and I said to myself, oh, that's reasonable, And then
I look closer. That was the ten percent deposit, so
it actually costs one hundred and fifty nine thousand, five
hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
This is my point. You could go up to Penga Canyon,
and get this done for a few hundred.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No, you can't.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
There's probably some nice ladies up there who could do it,
like a thousand gosh.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yes, it's sportstock radio folks. The gutter is never far away.
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
The Immortal Wellness Chamber apparently getting loads of free publicity
today thanks to Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford and
Doug We actually have another late breaking update here on
the press. We've been talking about Eagles Pro Bowl guard
Landon Dickerson, who was injured during the opening the open
practice yesterday. Eagle fans now sign with relief because multiple
(34:12):
outlets report he's going to undergo minor surgery in the
coming days on the meniscus in his right knee, with
the goal of being ready for the regular season opener.
So that's a cyber relief for Eagle fans.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
That is a cyber relief for Eagle fans.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, Like all this stuff is all the same, right,
Like you want to get them sharp, but you do
want we want to get him not injured. How do
we how do we push him to a very to
their limit without game injured?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeh Ever, every year, every year it's like this all right.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Our next item, as I put it, B you has called.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
B s on B you.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
And what I mean by that is Baylor University has
filed a trademark infringement complaint against Boston University in Texas
Federal Court for its use of an interlocking B you
design in its logo, which is similar to the interlocking
BU design on Baylor's logo.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, I mean, so who's shoeing who? Baylor's suing?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Baylor is doing Boston University in Texas court?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Who used it first? Though? It had to be.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
It had to be right.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Well, that's a good point. I mean, I guess Boston
University has been around longer, but I think it's the
specific the specific interlocking H logo. You know, universities have have,
you know, multiple logos. But I guess it's just mainly
(35:51):
a trademark dispute. But man, you would, I mean, it's
it seems pretty generic, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Everything's become litigious.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Yeah, didn't we have a situation like this like ten
years ago with like Notre Dame in the University of
North Dakota.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, there's also Oklahoma State and Wyoming. Thought over pistol
Pete too.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Oh my gosh, is there any is there any end
to this, because it'll be one thing if it would
be like the Hartford Whalers logo.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Now that's well, yeah, now.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
That's a unique logo.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
But this it just seems you know, I mean, it's
like the LA in the La Dodgers logo on their hats.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I'm just saying, all.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Right, and our final item in college sports, just so
I can give you one more opportunity to complain over it.
The Texas Longhorns ran number one and the AP preseason
Paul for the first time ever close vote. They edged
out number two Penn State by five voting points. It
was the closest voting in seventy two years. Rest of
the top five consists besides Texas and Penn's State, Ohio State, Clemson,
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and Georgia.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
And that's the press.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Get out there and pressed. That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Give my thoughts on that in one second. For forty years,
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should be okay. So yeah, here's the thing. Penn State
has their starting quarterback back, who's who's played for them.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Whereas arch banning is not. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I mean, it's part of the arch banning hype and
how do they handle it? And if you look at
that list of ap top twenty five, I do think
that a good portion of it was just who spent
the most money, which worked for me in the NCAA
tournament right in terms of picking games. If teams would
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actually disclose how much money they spent, I think we'd
have a pretty good guess on who's going to have
better seasons. And it's not necessarily because of one player,
and everybody does it differently, but it's where where Texas
has it is like walk Ons make eighty thousand dollars,
you know, and obviously now they've they've trimmed the trimmed
the roster some, but they just it's when you have
(38:16):
a lot of money and you can afford top level guys,
but you can also support them with quality depth. Now
you're cooking, especially in leagues like the SEC, where you
just get beat up, you get beat up. So yeah,
I mean and and the poll accomplished its job. It
got us talking about college football. For college football ever starts.
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That's that's the idea behind the whole thing, behind the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
What is that? What is the wellness tend called?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
What is it called again, a moral as with an
A not an I because that would be immoral.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
So yeah, immoral immral wellness tent. Yeah, that one you
could definitely get close to work in the valley. I
think there's lots of more a wellness tense somewhere in
the valley.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
But the immoral with both spellings, yes.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
M moral wellness time that the whole waves and red
light therapy and all that other stuff sounds interesting. I
don't know if it fixes his.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Back, but his back is jacked, jacked.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
We talked some about shad Or Sanders. You want to
listen to it, download the podcast. It's available at the
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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We got Mike Jones, national NFL writer for the Athletic
He's set to join us. The AP preseason poll will
has been released. We talked about poles last week. I'll
talk about them some more this week. We'll go through
some of these teams. But it's really the silliest thing
(00:43):
ever right where you no one knows who's playing where
for whom, and yet you know writers are expected to
make these picks.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's just we'll get to that. Plus we had the press,
well we.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Do this every Monday where we kind of go around
the room share our positive thoughts our negative thoughts.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
We call it love it hate?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
What did you love?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
God?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I love you?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
These Claire haters?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Love love love love love love love love love. This
is the Doug Otliep Show on Fox Sports Radio. Isaac
Loncron Love, Ah, Chris Prophet, Love of Detroit Sports, Firs Shinger,
just love.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's right, love A. Let's talk with you. I love.
What was you left on the weekend?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Sorry, the context of that labeling was interesting to me. Rebound, rebound, ilo, rebound,
All right, Well, actually mine is along those lines. And
I just discovered this a short time ago when thinking
about this. Uh, this is actually a pretty funny thing
that I enjoyed over the weekends. New England Patriots receiver
(02:02):
that the headline here is reporter asks Patriot receiver for
his wife's phone number. So here's the context that I'll
play the audio. Kendrick Bourne, uh, speaking with reporters covering
the Patriots, and one of the reporters complimented the clothes
he was wearing that day, and Kendrick Bourne very proudly
(02:23):
said that his wife was his stylist. And then the
reporter goes on to ask Bourne for his wife's phone number,
and it was a pretty funny exchange.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Listen, my wife is actually my style of shot out
to my wife.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
She's gonna love this.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
She puts it all together for me, so she's doing good.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
I don't know what she got ready for me, but
we'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, she's behind it all.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
She's can you give her?
Speaker 7 (02:48):
Can you get it?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Can I get a number?
Speaker 7 (02:50):
In the respectful way.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
For the strictly wardrobe part of life?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Hold on, hold on, hold on? What does he ask?
What do you ask me? All business card? Our instagram
has Vanessa Bourne, Go check around. That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
That's so funny, and now all our listeners have her Instagram.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But yeah, I thought that was hilarious. So that amused
me to no end.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I'll tell you what I loved.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I love the announcement that the UFC is coming to
Paramount Plus and there'll be no increase in fees I
guess as of now, so no more pay per views
for UFC. Seven billion dollars. That's crazy, seven billion dollars.
And what that means is that there's obviously the belief
(03:39):
there that UFC fight fans will follow wherever Dana and
Mark Shapiro says, to go, and I think that's very possible.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
In the in the uh what's it called? The wars of.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
All these different networks, you know you have you go
with the NFL and ESPN tying to them, and then
with CBS you know they have some properties. But get
in the UFC, and I think NBC has done really well.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I know Fox is launched in their app, but it's
the content that feels like it's missing. I'll be interesting
to see what they have on it. But the love
the UFC being not free, but being a monthly fee
with paramount. And maybe it's because I already had paramount
plus that might be it. I love what that means.
(04:38):
You have paramount plus two, all right, Chris Prophet, which
you let for the weekend.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
So I know, I think some baseball fans were kind
of mixed on it, But I always enjoy when baseball
can go on the road and have a bit of
a spectacle, and I think nothing exemplified that more than
go into Bristol Motor Speedway putting on a baseball game.
We had the Reds and the why am I blanking
all of a sudden Reds and Braves and I think
(05:08):
the thing I really love for that is I saw
a couple guys and they must have been this must
have been guys who are working in the crew, And
when you get to work in the crew, you get
to find the nice spots at a venue like this.
Because there was a shot during the Fox broadcast two
guys hanging up in the jumbo tron which was being
suspended by why being suspended over the middle of a field,
(05:32):
just kind of hanging up there. I think on the
Fox broadcast they like just zoomed in up there. And
by the way, this was after like I think rains
had delayed the game by a day. I think that's
right Bush something. Yeah, Okay, just just just making sure
my memory I've been you know, I'm all over the place,
but that was seeing those guys hanging up there. I'm like, yeah,
(05:55):
that's cool. I love that. I'd love to be able
to hang up just there, just just on this giant
piece of metal, hoping it doesn't crash down with only
wires hanging it up and watch a baseball game.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Nice, Chris, I mean, I'm Ryan Burschere.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
So on Friday night in baseball, we had a great game.
It was a headline matchup and it turned out to
be a great game. And that was the Blue Jays
visiting the Dodgers in LA, with Max Scherzer and Clayton
Kershaw facing off on the mound, and the matchup delivered.
This is probably the last time these two will ever meet,
which apparently had been the first time they had met
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since they met as rookies seventeen years ago, which is awesome.
Of course, the two of them certainly first ballot Hall
of famers and both pitched very well. Kershaw through six
innings of one run ball, and he did that despite
never topping eighty eight miles an hour, which not many
pitchers can do. So great to see Kershaw performing so
(06:55):
well Right now, Max schers are six innings of two
run ball as well, those only the two runs coming
on Mookie Bets hitting a two run shot, which also
I love because Mookie's really been struggling for quite a
bit now, but he had a pretty solid week at
the plate and that two run home run his first
home run in nearly a month, so it was great
to see him getting things going. As I said, turned
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out to be a beautiful night of baseball, a great
game between two of the very best that we have
seen on the mound in the past couple decades, and
the Dodgers ended up taking two of three from the
Blue Jays in LA, which is, as you mentioned, a
big deal because of the fact that they had been
struggling for so long. The Blue Jays are a very
strong team, the best in the al right now, So
(07:40):
loved that. Just a great weekend of baseball in LA.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend. Oh, sorry,
you prefet with Javi in the weekend.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
So I'm going to Detroit Lions here, I know, shock surprise,
but we have the preseason game, the second preseason game
for the Lions, the first for the Falcons, So Lions Falcons,
and I could have hated a lot of stuff I
saw with Henn and Hooker, but I'm not going there.
It's something that happened near the end of that game.
(08:15):
I believe it was like a minute into the fourth quarter,
Maurice Norris gets hit. I'm still kind of a little
unclear on the injury itself because I was like also
working out at the time, so I was kind of
half paying attention. I understand there might have been like
a seizure involved or something, but ambulance has to come
onto the field to take him off. Everyone is, of course,
(08:36):
you know, shaken up over this. This is not something
anyone who ever wants to see in a preseason game.
And then the then Dan Campbell and Maurice and Raheem
Morris come together and decide, Hey, we're gonna kneel out
the We're basically gonna kneel out the clock. There's fourteen
minutes left in this game, but nobody really wants to continue,
especially when we got joint practices and everyone's worried about Norris,
(08:58):
so we're going to just have to. It was the
most bizarre thing I've seen, just guys sitting around for
fourteen minutes running off the clock to end the game.
And what I hate about this is that there's no
way to stop the game. That apparently, eventually, sole power
to suspend an NFL game, even in the preseason rests
(09:20):
with the Central Office, which I understand, but the Central
Office saw no reason to stop this game when both
teams are like, hey, we don't want to play it anymore,
and I'm just it. I tell you, I tell you, Doug,
it was the most weird thing I've seen. Fourteen minutes
of guys waiting to go home, waiting to go home
at when neither side intends to continue this game. And
(09:43):
I just I don't understand why there's no mechanism here
for this. I understand we don't really do this in
the regular season, but it's preseason.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Come on, Uh, pretty good one. I love it again.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
It's actually related to this, it's sort of a different component.
So the Lions tweeted a statement saying that after this
happened that Norris has had feeling and movement in all
his extremities, which was the news we were all hoping
(10:16):
for when the scary thing happened, and a comment or
who goes by the handle at Roxy the Doodle posted
and I quote, are.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
They going to refund the picks? There were numerous parlays
about to hit and it's over with nearly a quarter
to play.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Unquote at Roxy the Doodle, perhaps the worst person who
lives among us.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I saw some other comments that were in that neighborhood.
That's pretty bad one.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
All right, there, Ryan, what you got?
Speaker 7 (10:54):
So my hate for the weekend is just I guess
it's the cognitive dissonance I feel with the NFL preseason
in general, as you said off the top of the show,
we're all getting ready for football. We're very much in
the mood for football to return, not just the NFL
but college as well. But the NFL preseason when these
games come on, it looks like the real NFL. It
(11:18):
feels kind of like the real NFL, but it's it's
still not, so you kind of like, it just feels
weird watching these games and trying to put any stock
in anything. Definitely, of course, with guys like Shudhar Sanders
and and a lot of different you know, rookie quarterbacks,
you're getting their first taste of action. That stuff's significant.
But for the most part, like obviously you can't really
(11:40):
look at the scoreboard, you can't really look at a
lot of these veterans who are just kind of getting
their reps in. It's just it's not like spring training,
where spring training, you know, looks and feels very obviously
different and it's just nice to return to normal. It's
not like NBA preseason because you know, NBA, the first
part of the NBA season doesn't even feel like the
NBA season. The NFL preseason is just it just feels
(12:03):
so odd because I'm I'm so ready for football to
come back, and yet I see it and I just
can't accept it. Still, it just makes me even more
anxious and ready for these real games to get going.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Just an odd thing when you got to cut down
from ninety to fifty three men and it's like these
games now take on the importance of trying to scout
those guys. Can I throw in one more real quick
hate about the preseason just side?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah? Yeah, so.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
Loop, I forget his first name. The Ravens kicker hit
a seventy yarder right, a seventy yard field goal in
the preseason. It was a big deal. Everyone went nuts
over this. I have a problem with this. I don't
like the idea that kickers can now hit from a
range where they're not even in opposing the opposing team's territory.
(12:53):
I think it enables incredibly cowardly coaching. I didn't like
this because I'm seeing it as a force. I know
we're not gonna hit seventy yarders in the rag, but
it really it annoys me.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I keep thinking, you say, on the on the rag?
Speaker 8 (13:07):
Yes, okay, yes, I keep thinking of you know what,
you know how uh Nick Saban lost the kick six
game because he decided to trot out a true freshman
kicker for what was that a sixty sixty plus yard
field goal? I don't call it being just over fifty
as I recall, I think it was fifty six either way.
Like these long range field goals, I keep thinking of
(13:28):
someone like Kirk Ferentz. What if he had a kicker
who could hit from seventy yards. You're telling Kirk Ferentz
in his Iowa offense, you don't even need to cross
midfield to score points. He'll he'll have a full back.
He'll have a full back fall on the ball to
center it. When at the logo, I don't like this, Gota.
We got to stop these long range field This is impressive,
(13:48):
But like I'm looking three steps down the road here.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
This is a really good issue because I think this
is going to increasingly become more of a topic of conversation, Doug,
in my opinion, because you know, when you and I
were growing up, the real limit was fifty yards and
it was a real tall order anything besides that, I
actually think this is going to be a big issue
(14:13):
that's going to be talked about in years to come
as these ranges keep increasing.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, I mean remember you can if you miss it,
that's where the spot of the ball is right. Also
you can return at the old tick six, So there
are some penalties for if you don't you can't complete
the the madfield goal.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'll tell you it's I'll tell what I hate. I
hate the a people.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Now it's not just because you have writers commenting, right,
Like the eight people is associated press can be anybody.
But what's I think most interesting about the It can
be anybody?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Is it? Literally? Is anybody.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Like ask like Brady, Quinn and LeVar probably know a
little bit more about football than we do. Especially Brady
covers more college football, right, the guys on college game Day,
the guys on big noon kickoff, Like that's who should
be voting in this poll.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
US first thing.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Second thing is like you got no idea Like Boise
States ranked twenty five, why because they're in the College
foot Playoff last year? Yeah, well Ashton genty was their
whole offense. They lost a bunch from last year, and
like you don't know about it? These portal guys none, how.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Do I know?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
We don't know the coaches don't know, get fifteen practice together,
then they go play. So I just I, you know,
always had a problem. Today people are now even worse.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Hey, Doug, Actually along those lines, I'd like to ask
you a follow up, both as a media member and
now as a coach. I know there's coaches polls in
both college football and basketball, and the big rumor going
around is the coaches themselves are just too busy to
do the polls, so their sid person does it for
them with the coaches pulled. But have Poles kind of
(15:55):
outlived their usefulness? I mean if Poles went away?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I mean sort of. I mean yeah, I think they
have and they haven't. You know, they have in that
they've They just need to evolve. You know.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's like even who votes for the Heisman Trophy, Like
you shouldn't vote for he Eichman Trophy if you cover
one college football team, how do you watch everything?
Speaker 8 (16:18):
I do think as a fan to ILO's point, like
I definitely pay a lot less attention to the polls,
especially preseason polls have always been kind of suspect, but
especially on these polls, like they don't matter at all
to the college football playoffs. Those are the real rankings
we're looking for. It's not like the BCS is still
using the Coach's Poll or that the AP crowns a
national champion anymore. They just kind of feel like we're
(16:40):
just kind of biding our times, trying to hope that
we can predict what the College Football Playoff Committee is
going to say in their rankings, which don't come out
until like late in the season.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Now, Yeah, I think, I just I still think they
should exist because people and say they don't care about polls,
then their teams, right number one are not ranked and
they get pissed, right, and they get pissed. So I
definitely think that poles should still exist. I just think
we got to be smarter about them. And I just
(17:11):
am not really convinced that the preseason polls and the
creases and polls are great for fodder. They just are
good discussions come out of it. By the way, Arizona
State's in the top fifteen, Like, didn't they lose Camskataboo
and most of their team from last year, but you
know they have you bring in new players and on
paper they look great, but you have no idea how
they're going to play together. So Uh yeah, I mean
(17:33):
I don't know if they've added list their usefulness. I
think there's I think they're part of the data that
we should have.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
It's what people think.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
But I'm just pointing out the flaws in like we
have a poll on teams that have just started having
actual practice together, remember no spring games, and some of
these teams, I just I don't know where they're getting
their rankings.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Hey, speaking of rankings, just one last thing on this,
I mean, are we getting to the point where we
could see, like a I come up with like a
legitimate way to rank college football teams using all these
crazy analytics in five years?
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Farness, isn't that what the BCS was?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Good point? Good point? Boy, do a lot of gigabytes ago?
Good point, a.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Lot of gigabytes go? And that is game ten? There's
two I mean, not Canton. That's love and hate? Right,
isn't there a love and hate clothes? I think it's
I think so anyway, this is the Doug Gotlieb Show
here on Box. I'm doing my own sound effects as
well today. That's that's what I'm doing. Uh, we'll get
you back to the NFL and figure out what's really
(18:45):
going on in Cleveland, what's really going on in Dallas?
Shore Sanders played well? Does he move up to depth chart?
And when's Michael Parts? Is gonna be a cowboy?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's next?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
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Speaker 1 (19:38):
All right, Stug Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's catch up with Mike Jones, national NFL writer for
the Athletic and Michael Let's start with Shor Sanders. We
were all waiting to see how he played. He played
after some early you know, some early nerves and some
uneven play, played really well in his third, fourth, maybe
(19:58):
even fifth drive.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
What's just do with him?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Though?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
For the with the Browns and the standing in the depth.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Chart, well, I think it put some pressure on Kenny
Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. Now both those guys have been
a little banged up here and there. But I think
that Kevin Spigginsky said it, you know that he was
going to get a lot more opportunities in practice as
he should. I mean, the kid had not had a
whole lot of action in team drills, and he, like
(20:27):
he said, yeah, it was a little bit of rough start,
but then once he got into a rhythm, he directed
some really nice drives, made some great throws, made some
good decisions, and so I think that was as good
an opportunity as sure could have hope for. And so
then this should earn him opportunity that he can move
on and now have an opportunity to compete for that
(20:48):
number two spot, I think behind Joe Flacco. And we'll
see how this thing continues to play out. I wouldn't
be surprised we wind up seeing him starting at some
point this year.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get
to Micah Parsons. Uh, still there, just not working out.
He's got a bad bad back, yes, bad back. They're
they're they're not gonna they're not gonna trade him. They
can franchise tag him. At some point in time they
thought they had a deal done. When is that time
they actually have a deal done.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
I I think, you know, maybe the week before the season,
something like that. We've seen Jerry Jones do this before.
He loves this drama. He dragged us out. He cost
himself way more money than he should if he just
took care of things, you know, in a prompt manner. Yes,
it kind of you know, incouraged ill will between some
of his players. You see frustrations by those guys, you know.
(21:41):
Ceedee Lamb even took to Twitter to express some frustration
of the whole situation. But they're they're not gonna let
him go anywhere. They're gonna wind up getting this thing
taken care of. It's silly, but this is the way
that Jerry Jones show always.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Goes Steut Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mike
Jones are guest National NFL writer for the Athletic Have
Like Stafford, he was supposed to throw today, he doesn't practice.
Today's back some mess. You go back a couple of
years ago thoughts of retiring because of that back. How
(22:15):
does it play on LA.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, I mean, it's going to be interesting to see.
They're trying to be careful. They don't want to rush
him along. They want him out there when he's really
good and ready right now. Look, he knows the offensive
inside and out. Yes, you would like him to get reps,
but it's not absolutely necessary. I don't know how this
plays out. It doesn't sound good. You've had the whole
(22:38):
off season to rest here, But as of right now,
there haven't had any talk or plans of surgery. So
I guess they're seeing what kind of treatments they can
provide to continue to alleviate things and see how he
can handle it. But there's a lot riding on this
because they really were trending upward in the right direction
last year after you know, a couple of lean years,
(23:00):
grouping and retooling, and he could be a difference maker.
They have an opportunity to win their division if he's healthy,
but if not, then it's really a big blow to
their opportunity, their chances for this year.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, it's crazy. If you don't have him, it's a
completely different team. And obviously he's a super Bowl champion quarterback,
but man, he's been held together by duct tape really
of late. Okay, Aaron Rodgers, what are you hearing about
how he looks?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I mean, look again, it's practice. He hasn't seen like
actual real defenses when they're coming at you and everything.
I mean, he's okay, he's picking up the offense. Obviously,
from all accounts, Arthur Smith is really working to kind
of blend what they like to do to what he
(23:51):
likes to do. We've seen we think of Arthur Smith
as a guy who's a really conservative run the ball
and things. But I think that what he does is
he uses and maximizes what he has to work with.
They had a really bad quarterback situation when he was
there in Atlanta. We saw him, you know, with great
(24:11):
creativity In Tennessee, he pivoted as the offensive coordinator away
from Marcus Mariota to Ryan Tannehill. He can adapt and
adjust his playbook. And having a guy like Aaron Rodgers's
got all the knowledge in the world, he'll be just fine. Now,
ability wise, mobility wise, is Aaron Rodgers still as quick
(24:31):
as he was? No? Can he gets the ball out
of his hands quickly? Yes, we'll see. Though they don't
have their number two and number three options at wide
receiver are pretty you know farse. They do have you know,
help at tight end. We'll see what they can do
with those guys. This is gonna be interesting to see.
They're going to have you know, joint practice with the
(24:52):
Buccaneers on Thursday, and that'll be, you know, a good
test for them. He's going against the defense that he
has seen before and see how he adapts and adjust
executing this new offense.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Caleb Williams,
you know, we go back a week ago and people
were talking about he can't throw into a net and
he struggled in open scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
What are you hearing in Chicago?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, you know I would have liked to have seen,
you know, what he was going to do in the preseason.
I guess, well, you know, we'll see what's happening there.
It looks Ben Johnson is a very creative mind. He
also is demanding to We saw the backup quarterbacks play
with a lot of boys. We'll see what happens when
they get to the game speed. With Caleb Williams, he
looks he is learning. He is young. He was in
(25:41):
a situation last year where he had three different offensive
play callers, you know, and so he's having to relearn
a lot of things. And when you are learning and
you're thinking you're not playing as fast and as fluid
as you can, doesn't mean that he can't wind up being,
you know, a talented guy. They've definitely, you know, put
there are resources into an offensive line that could better
(26:02):
protect him. I think he was sacked more than any
of the quarterback last year. So they're hoping that pass
protection will be better and hopefully that'll help his execution
be better. But this is going to be a process.
He's not going to come out in Week one and
look like you know, Patrick Mahomes or anything like that.
It's gonna be a gradual process. New offense, the first
time head coach, even though you know he's a talented
(26:23):
offensive mind. And we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Mike, What about Russell Wilson and the Giants, right this
is literally his last stop if he can't figure it out,
and they draft Jackson Dart who plays really well in
the preseason game. What are you hearing about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, well, look, this is still his job, you know,
for now, You guess jack and Dart looked pretty good.
But we got to remember he was going against the defense.
The defense coordinator didn't game plan for him. They didn't
study him, you know, come back, you know once they're
actually their game planning in and really planning and scheming
on how to take away your strengths and weaknesses. And
(27:05):
so I think that the best plan for them is
if Russell Wilson can keep this thing afloat while you
continue to develop Jackson Dark. They need to win. They
have been in the you know, disappointment. They have not
been able to build on a couple of years ago
when they made it to the playoffs with Daniel Jones,
say Kwon Barkley and so there's a lot of pressure
(27:25):
on a lot of people there, Brian Dable, you know,
Joe Shane, and they're hoping Russell Wilson can can help
them bounce back and be the bridge guy.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
But I will see awesome stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I'm I'm really intrigued in in Gino and the Raiders, Right,
Gino and Raiders. You know, brock Powers obviously elite from
the time he got in the league last year, and
we know how Pete wants to build it. And you
know Gino had kind of leveled off was last year
or so in Seattle, but a solid veteran and he
(27:57):
just haven't had a quarterback in a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Right, What are the Raiders look like?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, well, I think that this is going to be
something where he's going to help bring stability there. Like
you said, they haven't had you know, they got Jimmy Garoppolo,
but he was you know, you know, I mean his
back was an issue and everything like that. They've had,
you know, so much turnover at the head coaching position,
you know, talent wise, talent evaluator GM, They've had changes.
But I think that Gino has a head coach who
(28:25):
really grasps his strength and his weaknesses and what he
can do for you, and he'll help bring stability. And again, look,
I think they're behind the Chargers, they're behind the Broncos
and certainly behind the Chiefs, but they have something they
can start having a better foundation to start trying to
build this under Pete Carroll. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I'll be interesting to see the Chargers though, because when
you lose your star left tackle, granted you slide you
alt over there, but I think there's there's going to
be some falloff. Mike, great stuff as always, Man, thanks
for joining us. We'll talk to you very very soon.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
All Right, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
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Doug Gotleeb Show, Matt Stafford spent today's practice inside.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Of a wellness chamber. What does that mean? Oh, you're
gonna want to hear all the wild details that's next.
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleeb Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three
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(29:55):
How long until we have Monday Night Football? How many
days until football is played again? Real football is being
played again? We do have some interesting baseball as a
Dodgers Angels Freeway series, eh, eh, and you got to course,
Philly's Red's probably the premiere series going on right now.
(30:17):
But we don't need to preview all those Instead, let's
get you to Eaglon and Crown with the press.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The press.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Okay, Doug, what we've been talking about throughout the day.
Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford did not practice today.
He is continuing to recover from an aggravated disc in
his back. He was spotted at practice today entering something
called an Immortal Wellness Chamber, a mortal spelled AMMO rt
(30:55):
a L. Now for most outlets for sports media information,
it would end there, but we have further information for
your listening enjoyment now. The Immortal Wellness Chamber contains the
following multi wave pulsed electromagnetic fields, vibroacoustic sound therapy, multi
(31:22):
wavelength light therapy, and molecular hydrogen now. Sean McVeagh said
a short time ago that Stafford was only using the
chamber today for the multi wavelength light therapy, adding that
the chamber is available to every player now. According to
its own website, this chamber is where quote ancient insight
(31:47):
meets modern tech. It also features embedded sacred geometry and
other symbology, plus earth tones and subtle textures combine to
suggest the profound nature of the chamber and the intention
that drove our approach.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
We should add this is all inside of a refurbished
airstream camp or two.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I think that's what they meant by the earth tones
and subtle textures. I'm sure of aluminum. Yes, of aluminum, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So you know, I I just I do. I love
some of those therapies. We have a place in town
we use. But the fact that they named it and
it just gives it a little weird just it's became
very la, you know, became very la.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
I have a problem with this in one case, and
that like, I'm not totally against the stuff, but they're
selling this chamber for like for a deposit.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
No, no, that's where I was going next. Ho O, Okay,
I'm sorry you no, no, no, no, no, You're fine. Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
That brings us to this dig. I want you, Doug
to guess the retail price of the Immortal Wellness Chamber.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Actually close, yet still not so close. I looked on
their website and it said fifteen nine hundred and fifty dollars,
and I said to myself, oh, that's reasonable, And then
I look closer. That was the ten percent deposit, so
it actually costs one hundred and fifty nine thousand, five
hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
This is my point. You could go up to Penga Canyon,
and get this done for a few hundred.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No, you can't.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
There's probably some nice ladies up there who could do it,
like a thousand gosh.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yes, it's sportstock radio folks. The gutter is never far away.
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
The Immortal Wellness Chamber apparently getting loads of free publicity
today thanks to Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford and
Doug We actually have another late breaking update here on
the press. We've been talking about Eagles Pro Bowl guard
Landon Dickerson, who was injured during the opening the open
practice yesterday. Eagle fans now sign with relief because multiple
(34:12):
outlets report he's going to undergo minor surgery in the
coming days on the meniscus in his right knee, with
the goal of being ready for the regular season opener.
So that's a cyber relief for Eagle fans.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
That is a cyber relief for Eagle fans.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, Like all this stuff is all the same, right,
Like you want to get them sharp, but you do
want we want to get him not injured. How do
we how do we push him to a very to
their limit without game injured?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeh Ever, every year, every year it's like this all right.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Our next item, as I put it, B you has called.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
B s on B you.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
And what I mean by that is Baylor University has
filed a trademark infringement complaint against Boston University in Texas
Federal Court for its use of an interlocking B you
design in its logo, which is similar to the interlocking
BU design on Baylor's logo.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, I mean, so who's shoeing who? Baylor's suing?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Baylor is doing Boston University in Texas court?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Who used it first? Though? It had to be.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
It had to be right.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Well, that's a good point. I mean, I guess Boston
University has been around longer, but I think it's the
specific the specific interlocking H logo. You know, universities have have,
you know, multiple logos. But I guess it's just mainly
(35:51):
a trademark dispute. But man, you would, I mean, it's
it seems pretty generic, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Everything's become litigious.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Yeah, didn't we have a situation like this like ten
years ago with like Notre Dame in the University of
North Dakota.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, there's also Oklahoma State and Wyoming. Thought over pistol
Pete too.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Oh my gosh, is there any is there any end
to this, because it'll be one thing if it would
be like the Hartford Whalers logo.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Now that's well, yeah, now.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
That's a unique logo.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
But this it just seems you know, I mean, it's
like the LA in the La Dodgers logo on their hats.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I'm just saying, all.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Right, and our final item in college sports, just so
I can give you one more opportunity to complain over it.
The Texas Longhorns ran number one and the AP preseason
Paul for the first time ever close vote. They edged
out number two Penn State by five voting points. It
was the closest voting in seventy two years. Rest of
the top five consists besides Texas and Penn's State, Ohio State, Clemson,
(37:02):
and Georgia.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
And that's the press.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Get out there and pressed. That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Give my thoughts on that in one second. For forty years,
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should be okay. So yeah, here's the thing. Penn State
has their starting quarterback back, who's who's played for them.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Whereas arch banning is not. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I mean, it's part of the arch banning hype and
how do they handle it? And if you look at
that list of ap top twenty five, I do think
that a good portion of it was just who spent
the most money, which worked for me in the NCAA
tournament right in terms of picking games. If teams would
(37:53):
actually disclose how much money they spent, I think we'd
have a pretty good guess on who's going to have
better seasons. And it's not necessarily because of one player,
and everybody does it differently, but it's where where Texas
has it is like walk Ons make eighty thousand dollars,
you know, and obviously now they've they've trimmed the trimmed
the roster some, but they just it's when you have
(38:16):
a lot of money and you can afford top level guys,
but you can also support them with quality depth. Now
you're cooking, especially in leagues like the SEC, where you
just get beat up, you get beat up. So yeah,
I mean and and the poll accomplished its job. It
got us talking about college football. For college football ever starts.
(38:38):
That's that's the idea behind the whole thing, behind the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
What is that? What is the wellness tend called?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
What is it called again, a moral as with an
A not an I because that would be immoral.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
So yeah, immoral immral wellness tent. Yeah, that one you
could definitely get close to work in the valley. I
think there's lots of more a wellness tense somewhere in
the valley.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
But the immoral with both spellings, yes.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
M moral wellness time that the whole waves and red
light therapy and all that other stuff sounds interesting. I
don't know if it fixes his.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Back, but his back is jacked, jacked.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
We talked some about shad Or Sanders. You want to
listen to it, download the podcast. It's available at the
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